A.B.I.torial Mini: I Don't Know What To Say About Street Fighter 6

[@manzanito3652]

Ryu: -Enters your house - Hits you with a jumping light and a fierce -Removes the ice from your water -Eats your stale bread -Steals your dvd of the most recent season of the simpsons -Leaves dirt in your floor -"See you in street fighter six" -Refuses to elaborate -Leaves

[@philiphunt-bull5817]

Perfection.

[@cookedflores9444]

But what if I anti-air with this gun

[@HellecticMojo]

@@cookedflores9444 Zangief can deflect swords by flexing. Guns don't got shit. Unless it's from an attack helicopter. RIP Charlie

[@juniorjunior5884]

This is called sigma energy, otherwise known as the power of nothingness.

[@cise3895]

Forgpt to mention that he’s from Streets

[@dracocrusher]

It really doesn't help that V's launch was such a disaster. And while it eventually built itself up, things like the netcode were always a huge glaring issue. So the big question isn't 'will Ryu look good', it's 'will the game suck at launch' and 'will they finally fix the freaking netcode???' Keep in mind, V's current roster is honestly really good, so how good the game is actually going to be at launch is REALLY important to actually move people from V to VI. As-is, VI has just never stopped and it's kept improving, so actually pushing the new thing is a pretty hard sell until we see some real improvements.

[@Neoxon619]

SF6 was already delayed by two years internally (it was supposed to launch by Early 2021), hence why SFV Season 5 exists at all (Seth was supposed to be SFV’s last character). Likewise, Capcom already fixed their netcode with MvCI. The issue was that those changes were never brought back to SFV.

[@johngr1747]

Early SFV sucked indeed!

[@habijjj]

The netcode has Essentially been fixed already. Mvci has the same net code but it works way better

[@jasonsmith530]

I’ve been playing KOF15 witch has great netcode. It seems Japanese developers are taking notice

[@itzderrio]

the roster is 🗑

[@jf_paes1589]

I think it's funny you're saying they're playing safe, because there's also a bunch of people saying Capcom's crazy for using an arstyle that's a mix of the old Street Fighter proportions with hyper, near photorealistic visuals. If this reveal has been one thing for sure, is divisive.

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

@Martin Toledo I mean it is a new engine, it was only used in Resident evil until MHRise (no world was not using the REengine, it was MT).

[@leithaziz2716]

@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 DMC5 used the RE engine as well, allthough I think it did something different to achieve the types of faces for the more montrous/demonic characters.

[@cosmicspider2]

I guess a risk in his mind is copying ArcSys.

[@DANCERcow]

Specifically Guilty Gear 2 Overture! Risk taking is reinventing an IP to something new but familiar, Street Fighters only risks have been puzzle and gem fighters and the EX series!

[@neckapples3526]

@@DANCERcow That's a lot of risks dude.

[@SAPProd]

But how about that Capcom Fighting Collection, though? Having all that classic Capcom goodness in one package for modern consoles is not only good for the fans, but its success could lead to some great things: new collections for more dormant & obscure franchises that haven’t appeared even in collections in over 20 years, a collection focused on Marvel games (if Marvel sees Capcom successfully curating their work, they may be more willing to sign off on the license), and of course, more entries for all these games. Now THAT is WAY more exciting to me than Street Fighter 6 (though I am interested enough to want to know more).

[@greasysmith3150]

I know right! I think this is the first tike red earth has had a release outside of the arcades i really want it.

[@blyat8832]

I feel like the collection is a test for Capcom to see if they should invest in they're old ips. If that's true, than you know exactly what that means. Time to give them our money 😂

[@SAPProd]

@@blyat8832 you’re not wrong, that’s exactly what it is. In fact, Darkstalkers Resurrection, with only a fraction of the content this collection has, was a test as well, one that failed because of terribly high expectations placed upon it; it charted on PlayStation Store charts in its first month and could have done more if properly marketed and cultivated on the competitive scene, but unfortunately that same month Capcom publicly declared it a sales failure, which is the most incompetent thing one does when trying to sell something. Regardless, this collection looks way better, test or not; not only are we getting so much Darkstalkers and other bonafide classics, but Red Earth is getting its first home port EVER, and that is exciting! This just might be the sign of Capcom’s return to greatness we’ve been waiting for!

[@blyat8832]

@@SAPProd yeah I only played the resurrection collection, so I was not able to play the other versions. As someone who loved the games and Darkstalkers lore and all of that, I'm glad this collection is coming out. I can finally experience what I've been missing lol. Can't wait for it

[@wolfzburn8822]

Darkstalkers getting any type of love is awesome and being able to play Red Earth is nuts in the best way.

[@falguard]

There's not much to say about it because this is barely an aperitif, let alone an appetizer. But hey, at least going forward, we'll likely be getting Monster Hunter Team-style videos from the development crew where they will directly spell out their intentions.

[@andrewevers2420]

I hope so I liked those.

[@Neoxon619]

@@andrewevers2420 The last one they did for SFV clearly showed that they’re well aware we love those broadcasts. They even went as far as to say that the last one was less of a goodbye & more of a “See you later”.

[@donkeydarko77]

@@Neoxon619 See you later...SIX MONTHS FROM NOW.

[@Raxyz_0]

After the rocky launch of SFV, I think it's understandable to play safe for a while. They cannot afford another game with several years of struggles with one year of notable improvement and player satisfaction. Basically I'm in the middle ground between "excited" and "worried". Still, I do hope to see some design shops for either newcomers or returning with big changes. PS: Surprised to see no remarks about the logo, because yeesh. That's the biggest flaw to me so far.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

Yeah i also was expecting a comment over the logo

[@venexo1434]

This truly aged like milk

[@MansMan42069]

It turned out rank and mouldy. Should've been in the trash yesterday.

[@burrito9327]

Most of my hype fof SF6 comes from how thirsty I am for Wide Ryu.

[@FullMetalSnorlax]

The cause for SF5's identity crisis is from the team initially wanting to evolve all of the designs, but it's Producer Ono fought back against this and insisted on making things more recognizable. Ono has left Capcom now and it seems the dev team will now be able to make the design updates they wanted to make in SF5, starting with giving Ryu the look they planned for him to have in SF5.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

Ono supposedly resisted against redesigns, but still most veterans were redesigned. Just some were less radically redesigned (Karin, Akuma, Bison) than others like Sakura, Vega, Cody. In this position wouldnt he be able to prevent any change on a SF veteran?

[@NinjaWorldWarrior16]

@@carlosaugusto9821 The Director always has the final word. So maybe Ono convinced him not to touch some of the established char designs, but those that "desperately" needed a change got that.

[@loranriser2989]

I agree: Street Fighter 6 needs a soul first and foremost. I often hear "all I care about is hitboxes and frames", but everyone knows that isn't true because, if it was, King of Fighters XIII would have been the #1 game at EVO ten-years in a row. So while SFV may have recovered mechanically from its disastrous release and first impressions, its style remained visually and atmospherically sterile -- and I'm getting those "take us serious, we're an E-sport" vibes again from SF6's teaser, so I'm not excited. KOF15 may look graphically rough, but its character design and mechanical personality is on-point and I'm genuinely excited that so many SF players are having a blast with the game. Capcom should take notes.

[@Neoxon619]

I got more MMA vibes from the trailer than anything else.

[@loranriser2989]

@@Neoxon619 I personally see UFC's graphic design to be sterile and ubiquitous. Everyone else's mileage may very on that opinion.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

You could have highlighted that fact a little more: SF4 dominated the early 10s being the UGLIEST big brand fg of the entire ps3 generation. So visually inferior to earlier ps3 fgs in the 00s (TK6, VF5) and later fgs in the 10s (MK9, KOF 13, GG Xrd, SC5). But it happens that besides the brand name, SF4 did so much right in other points besides graphics, and that's what got it so ahead of others. It was specially humiliating for KoF and GG given the insane effort put on them... and they had no chance to take the attention from SF4.

[@EAZIIMAN]

I'd argue that kof xv has a more consistent art style than sfv and personally feel it was made with love by snk unlike sfv which was released unfinished so they could get it to evo quicker. After sfv I stopped caring for Capcom fighting games, it just stop being about fun and turned into a extremely competitive game

[@thomasthecoolkid7228]

We do have a redesign for Luke that gives him a much needed hairdo change, so there's that.

[@Neoxon619]

I think they’re going for more of a MMA feel while finally moving past Third Strike in the timeline (something they kinda already did with some SFV character stories, namely the ones for Rose & Oro). Basically, they’re seemingly doubling down on moving things forward while also taking a more serious tone in most respects. As for Luke, the only reason we got him at the end of SFV was because that season wasn’t supposed to happen. Season 5 was basically a stalling tactic to buy Capcom time to delay SF6. Had things going according to plan, SF6 would’ve launched early last year & Seth would’ve been SFV’s final character. Going back to SF6, even from an artistic standpoint, the game isn’t really playing it safe considering how divisive the more realistic art direction is within FGC-centric socials circles (who generally would’ve preferred a more anime-like approach similar to ASW’s recent games). This is in stark contrast to the reception SF6 got from the casual fan base, which end up being mostly praise.

[@321Tdog]

I think it looks great, but I hope the next game is Alpha 4 with Anime/AWS style graphics

[@Neoxon619]

@@321Tdog That probably won’t ever happen because that would come at the cost of alternate costumes, which was a source of revenue that kept SFV afloat initially. That plus, for better or worse, the casual audience seems to prefer realistic rendering.

[@jasonsmith530]

Kof and gg for the more anime look. Sf is going for EAs UFC fans

[@321Tdog]

@@Neoxon619 Maybe but Guilty Gear and such are still 3D models and people have modded new costumes onto the characters. Maybe if they did it in RE Engine it will be easy but who knows.

[@Neoxon619]

@@321Tdog But ASW themselves never did costumes outside of Videl.

[@thirdworldrenegade]

Are we gonna get a full video about Street Fighter 6? I think there are definitely some talking points now.

[@Kusanagikaiser999]

he is so embarrassed about this he probably would never talk about SF6 at this point, we are in YEAR 2....Terry Bogard and Mai Shiraniu were announced and this dude still left this outdated bad take on SF6 release trailer and that stupid april´s fools video about Ryu design and his mock SP logo and yet he have no talk about probably the best fighting game in this generation....his LOSS.

[@thirdworldrenegade]

​@@Kusanagikaiser999 Maybe he'll change his mind? Street Fighter 6 is definitely worthy of a lengthy video, like he did with Guilty Gear Strive.

[@strippinheat]

May favorite take so far is from Majin Obama. "Ryu's foot doesn't look like a real foot. It looks like a cake of a foot."

[@Keinish79]

Just looking at the logo tells me they want to break away from tradition. I am curious what the new direction will be, but I am not getting excited about it until I see more of the game and what that direction will be.

[@kurizu1510]

Luke got released November 21, 2021, not even a whole 3 months ago. I think the real problem (besides Capcom being a DLC-fest/ not developing their other fighting IPs) is that the company loves to rush everything. They don't even give you time to enjoy the tail-end of the game. We can't even muster the energy to be hype for Street Fighter anymore because they don't give you time to breathe.

[@Neoxon619]

SF6 was delayed by two years internally (Q1 2021 -> Q1 2023), the only reason it looks like they’re coming out so quick after Season 5 was because said season wasn’t supposed to happen.

[@radicalcentrist4990]

Dude, they're not gonna release this game anytime soon, you still have time to play. They said more info about it will only come this summer. That makes me think they'll release it next year or very late this year. Still a lot of time.

[@blackmanta2527]

Where did you get this info from?

[@NinjaWorldWarrior16]

@@blackmanta2527 You mean the delay? Well, the 2020 winner of CapCup was supposed to not auto-qualify for CapCup 2021 (same happened between 2015 -> 2016), so it was already a sign that SF6 had been on the horizon. The producer & director even hinted (albeit with some smart wordplay) that Seth was planned to be the end of it. And that Summer Update roadmap basically made it clear SF6 is not coming before February 2023.

[@BritishTeaFGC]

How long should the tail-end of the game be? SF6 ain't coming out any time soon (maybe by Feb next year) so that's more than enough time to enjoy the game still.

[@zombieguy4444]

I will give it this: I hated Luke's design in Street Fighter V, but I actually really like his design in the SF6 reveal

[@TheHonorableRyu]

Same. Even a design as lame as F.A.N.G.'s could look good in this art style, and it comes down to lighting: his hat actually casting deep shadows over his face so that most of it is in darkness; little gleams of light reflecting off his glasses. SFV's art style couldn't pull off a goofy yet sinister character because the lighting is too cartoony and ambient, the shadows are weak and don't obscure anything.

[@dokuganryu1565]

Couldn't tell he was the same guy.

[@fissilewhistle]

I think this character needs to be flushed. He looks stupid and I’m sure nobody actually wants him to be the lead character.

[@Ichiban_Dayo]

my man really had the biggest glow up in such a short time lmfao

[@dokuganryu1565]

@@fissilewhistle To me he looked like one of the Paul brothers at first. Now he just looks like a guy you wouldn't think twice about.

[@MrSTVR]

It's only playing it safe if we get stuck with the World Warriors yet again and Zangief looks exactly the frickin same out of laziness.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

Yeah, playing safe means depending too much on the SF2 veterans and their staple moves. For example compare to Terry Bogard: his staple moveset was defined by FF2 (92) but over time he gained 2 staple regular moves and also a few more regular moves that come and go; and 2 new staple supers, and 3 other new supers that come and go. Also Kyo from KoF, a more ridiculous example. He started in KoF 94 with a fireball, then in 96 he became a rekka char, gained a new kick move, a counter, and that set his staple form. Since then his rekka gains gets new variations and he gained a few regular moves that come and go; and he gained over 6 different new supers that come and go (one of them a grab super, that is notable for him). That's actually the most radical evolution of a protagonist in all fg history. Nobody would dare taking out the protagonist's fireball - SNK did and it even worked great. Now im a TK noob, so i cant comment details, i know Jin changed over times too. He isn't the same as TK3. All of that is much richer than Ryu's evolution over 30+ years of SF. Oh and all 3 protagonists above already were redesigned at least once - Kyo at the top with 3 new outfits. The last time Ryu got something new was in SF3 from around 25 years ago.

[@segapig]

Zangief will fight for Ukraine now as Russia isn't polling well.

[@Neetso]

The ideal SF6: young teens like Ibuki, Elena, Sean and the Lee twins are finally allowed to grow up and be a better version of themselves; and legacy characters have a chance to serve as 'mentors' for some of the newcomers, all while keeping their good shape intact! _(also please Capcom, explain what ever happened to the rest of the SF1 dudes, and if there's really a connection between G and Q, storywise...!)_

[@Jago-pl7op]

This aged like milk or cheese.

[@TJK10]

Forget Wide Ryu and Ken… Imagine how wide Gief and Mika might be, lol.

[@lukejones7164]

Thiccer R.Mika

[@MrOuest]

2:03 Did he predict Luke's perfect win pose?!

[@bena5150]

SF fans are the ones who hate SF the most. Poor Capcom just can't satisfy SF fans. Interestingly enough, games like Melty Blood have been more or less the same for decades now but the fanbase will happily play whatever is thrown at them.

[@lukejones7164]

Western SF fans hate SF the most lol. The Japanese/Eastern Fandom is a lot more reasonable and positive.

[@jk844100]

“Playing it safe”? Going in a visual direction SF has never had before in it’s 30 year history (realistic). Having the game focus on a new main character (Luke) with what seems to be presented as a “young hotshots Vs. The old guard” situation going on. Expanding on that note what happened last time Capcom tried taking that risk of focusing on new characters? We got SF3 which tanked financially and killed the franchise for 10 years. Then it came back with SF4 which is the game that played it 100% safe bringing back every classic character with their classic looks, essentially saying “look guys, we’re not doing that new SF3 stuff again, it’s the same-old nostalgic characters from before, please come back”. Then we got SF5 where they took a couple of risks with less important characters but they played it safe with the iconic characters because they didn’t want a SF3 situation again; they were testing the waters by advancing characters like Sakura and Cody to see how that would go. Now with SF6 it seems they’re finally confident enough again to try taking some actual risks; the first being the drastic change in art style, second being actually changing Ryu’s design, a classic character and the third being putting new characters in the spotlight to actually challenge the classic characters. I think “SF6 is playing it safe” is a ridiculous statement that completely misses everything we’ve seen past and present.

[@DeLuxonn]

That's ABI for you

[@-penta-1357]

Cope, seethe, mald.

[@jk844100]

@@-penta-1357 not particularly relevant. I’m not upset at him or anything. I’m just explaining how this is actually a big risk for Capcom. And to be honest the only reason they can take this risk is because literally every other franchise they have is doing amazingly well, RE, DMC, Monster Hunter it’s just street fighter that’s suffering, so it makes sense to take a risk now because they’ve played it safe 2 games in a row, time to get peoples’ attention with something bold. Whether it’ll work out or not we’ll have to wait and see.

[@ultimatecharisma2822]

Your take is better than the person who made this video

[@mirotrevino9662]

@@-penta-1357 copium is only relevant if this guy was actually upset but he is just pointing out obvious differences in the upcoming game and steps to make it different that ABI missed out on. The changing of the guard and the semi realism they are going for are the biggest and most obvious changes and he barely mentions them as if they are irrelevant

[@jonssogaming8255]

At first, I wasn’t a big fan of the realistic art style of the game. But recently it has started to grow on me after watching the trailer in slow motion so I can see how the characters actually look and it still feels in line with previous SF games. So long as Capcom throws in some bits of artistic flare to really make the visuals pop I’ll be pretty happy.

[@Skycrusher]

So you learned to settle for less. Congrats, you are part of the problem.

[@muhammedraashid3667]

It's not realistic, the body proportions are wack.

[@Neoxon619]

@@muhammedraashid3667 It’s more of Tekken’s approach to realism, going most of the way there without completely sacrificing stylization.

[@Neoxon619]

@@Skycrusher Interestingly enough, the responses I’ve seen differ wildly between us dedicated fans in the casual market. If you look at comment section such as the IGN uploaded the trailer, you’ll see mostly praise for this new art direction. Whereas in the FGC, the responses have been more mixed.

[@muhammedraashid3667]

@@Neoxon619 ,Then it's not similar to Tekken. Tekken has mostly believable body proportion and realistic body properties. Also it had no stylization including exaggeration like entire nerves popping out. About facial expressions, I can't confirm it yet but previous games of SF had them over exaggerated too. Whether these all conflicting properties mesh well with the 'pseudo realistic' artstyle is waited to be seen.

[@HomeWingGamer]

This really reminds me about how SFV was announced, with a logo and some small teasers on early beta footage, but nothing concrete outside of a logo and 2 characters. Best bet is to wait for the next trailer, but god do i wish they just waited to drop that next trailer instead of this.

[@donkeydarko77]

At least SFV gave us actual gameplay of Ryu & Chun Li right from the beginning.

[@HomeWingGamer]

@@donkeydarko77 barely, but true

[@MrBranh0913]

SF3 took major risks and people hated it. It was a commercial flop. And honestly I don’t want them to scrap the whole cast. I think some big redesigns will be cool enough. The gameplay mechanics are likely going to be polarizing. Every time there is a new SF game it has polarizing gameplay mechanics. It wasn’t like SFIII had people thrilled to only choose 1 super. And people hated focus attacks in SFIV, calling it a poor man’s parry? And SFV was called -2 fighter for a reason. So I can understand them not getting too crazy with the character selection. We’re going to hear a lot of bitching in the upcoming months are roster, redesigns, and gameplay. So let’s brace ourselves

[@ReeceHoward06]

I don't even understand why people want to abandon a whole cast of iconic characters. Why do that when they can just make a new series?! Im with you, updated appearances are the way to go. SFV had the right idea for many characters. Ken and Sagat's design are dope, despite the way Ken's hair is rendered in game.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

@@ReeceHoward06 Over the years i became more open minded about redesigns, and now i think the ideal management of modern fgs is the TK style: standard looks are redesigns, and old costumes are offered. SF5 also went that way (surprisingly for a very conservative brand) but just partially. That way the brand image is refreshed, the devs' creativity is stimulated, and in the end there's always the classic costumes for whoever want to keep them. If a new outfit turns out bad, you can be reassured that it's going to change next time, maybe for good. And every sequel makes people excited to see the new looks, which is great for publicity. Lots of positive things about it. Interestingly, outside Japan there was one game doing the right thing earlier than the jp fgs: MK. Since the classic trilogy most chars have changed consistently in every sequel, especially MK3-UMK3. And the 3d era and MK9 era did an important step of giving unique designs to ninjas, cyborgs, etc. (Meanwhile only in SF5, after 30 years of SF, Ryu and Ken are becoming less "shoto clones") That was very foward thinking for an early 90s fg considering the devs didnt have a reference from SF to do it. And gladly that quality still exists in the series.

[@ReeceHoward06]

@@carlosaugusto9821 Honestly, only Ryu, Chun-li, and Zangief have the classic look in SFV. All of the classic characters pretty much have a redesign and ones that make sense at that. Ken, Bison, Sagat, Sakura, Vega, Balrog, Birdie, Karin, Dhalsim, Cody, Urien, Kolin, and many others have updated looks amd designs. They are still recognizable, but totally different looks than that of old. Mortal Kombat did it right...up until the modern era in my opinion. Not a fan of the overdesigned and busy look of modern MK designs.

[@BottleWaterson]

i mean, if like, 15 seconds of footage can be turned into 3 minutes its inspired quite alot

[@wolfhurricane897]

I got something to say about it. It's about time Ryu got a different look.

[@YourTrustyHonkey9716]

All there is for SF6 is Luke and Ryu and channels are making it the biggest deal with little to nothing go off of. Their really is nothing to say, people just want views for whats trending.

[@joedatius]

yeah I don't know what people expect from a literal teaser, not every tiny bit of information is meant for hyper speculation.

[@scatman1236]

Considering that the teaser was essentially an announcement for a date where we get more info in the summer... there's nothing else to really say about this teaser other than it looks nice and confirms that we can look forward to news about this game. V is done, stay tuned for 6, that's it. If anything now's the time to do a little marathon of the games with friends, just to make your own excitement for the future of SF.

[@realfromtherealreality4148]

It's the sixth game in the series. And never judge a game before you have it in hands. That's the two things everybody needs to remember. (Also how do you feel about Shun'ei being KOF 15 poster boy?)

[@NeffJeff95]

He has a video on Shun ei and his design and why it doesn't work. Look it up on his channel

[@popo237]

Well no it is the seventh. Never minding the various updates.

[@realfromtherealreality4148]

@@NeffJeff95 Yeah I've seen all of his design shops, but it'd be cool to see if his take has evolved or not. And also, even if his design sucks in-game, I do think 2D animations and art-style, like in the manga, poster arts, or animations, do manage to actually give him an interesting flair, that the 3D models couldn't achieve. (Or maybe talk about the Rival Team's newcomers.) (I don't understand why they made him so buff, if his fighting style requires him to be fast and agile, with the hands doing the heavy lifting though.

[@psycholuigiman]

I couldn't possibly disagree more with both points. It's not even close to the sixth game in the series counting all the freaking updates and re-releases and whatnots, and it's not even sixth if all you care about is mainline stuff and don't count each re-release as its own game. Absolutely judge a game before you have it in your hands. If you don't, you end up with the Call of Duty, Madden, Fifa, Battlefield, and Pokemon levels of stagnation and/or scummy anti-consumer practices because like a fool, you bought every single game and let the company know that you want whatever they sell regardless of quality.

[@popo237]

@@psycholuigiman geez don't need to write a wall

[@nerdwarp112]

I always consider myself to be “cautiously optimistic” when a new fighting game gets announced. I really want this game to be amazing and fun to play, as well as not be afraid to do some new things. I also don’t want to get my hopes too high in case it ends up just being “okay.”

[@eliasnicolasmiranda4940]

after seeing your past A.B.I.torial mini about Luke and the future of Street Fighter yeah i can see where you are coming and now i'm very concerned specially after seeing that awful logo that looks like it came out from UFC

[@Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni]

There is not much to say because...what the hell are we suppoused to talk about? Pretty much everything we know about 6 is "It exists. And has the two characters we already knew were going to be in it. "

[@alexardo5224]

All I can see is Ryu who now grow a beard, stepping out of the sauna room, and being hit-on by Popeye's bastard son.

[@eduardoserpa1682]

Yeah, we just didn't get much of anything, and half of what we got was the boring SF6 logo. The RE Engine display was kind of cool, though.

[@AzrielArcade]

I’m hoping that the Roster is actually beefy, like 20 to 30 characters would make me hype for it. If only to prevent that season pass DLC problem where you can get charged that should REALLY be in the base game by default. Also, every SF3 character in SF6, because characters like Necro REALLY need a spotlight. On that note, retire a few characters for this title like Zangief, Dhalsim, and Blanka. We need new blood, but we also got a few more characters that should reappear like Sodom.

[@joedatius]

Glad to see you were wrong about Hot Ryu only being here cus of his popularity since we now know we're getting a full time jump past third strike and seemingly all characters will be aged up

[@noBody-ue6cs]

Maaaan, the internet seem so negative. I like what I saw, I like the song. It’s really a trailer for the new SF6 look, art style graphics. I’m satisfied with the trailer.

[@victorteste5325]

While I agree "safe" feels correct in this case, I feel this trailer's feel is best described with "predictable". It was hard to feel excitement when we already knew many of the things the trailer showed. We know for more than a year now that SF6 was a thing thanks to SFV's last minute season 5, Luke being there was pretty much guaranteed by the devs, Hot Ryu was a demanded by the community for years now, so it only made sense, RE Engine and realistic graphics felt like the natural next step, given Capcom's main releases in the last 6 years. This was just a checkmark signaling SF6's existence. The REAL reveal will probably be the next trailer on Summer, as gameplay will probably be shown.

[@stridatron1503]

I think it's time for a realistic looking SF game, let's have faith in Capcom bcz the RE engine is also designed for fighting games.

[@ikagura]

SF's main appeal was the cartoony/exaggerating aspect

[@cloudnine2330]

@@ikagura it's still exaggerated tho just because it doesnt have cellshading or something like that doesn't mean it's devoid of any style

[@luminosity01]

re engine is designed for fighting games? it's literally just a versatile engine like unreal engine

[@ProjectSudoku]

I see you changed the video title to try and seem less harsh than you were.

[@SaviorGabriel]

I don't know what it says about SF6 when I'm more excited over a compilation of Capcom fighting games featuring the Darkstalkers series, and the first home release of Red Earth. Granted, there's not much to go on with the SF6 teaser. All I came away from it was, "Please don't fuck this up, Capcom!"

[@jacobfoxfires964]

*Capcom proceeded to fuck it all up*

[@carlosaugusto9821]

@@jacobfoxfires964 The most natural outcome, given the last generation of SF5 and MvCI, and Capcom's disinterest about high effort fgs. (After all it's just a fg, not a new DMC or RE)

[@Slayerofall21]

@@jacobfoxfires964 They're gonna find a way to screw this up

[@austinreed7343]

Not to mention the “Rockman Taisen” leak.

[@dj_saturn150]

You pretty much summarized how I felt about the reveal. Nothing we didn't already know about before hand. Hell even the realistic art direction would've been a safe bet considering the early builds of SFV. I hope the last few years of SFV are indicative of how SF6 will progress. More communication from the dev team and a willingness to make the characters a bit more fun and expressive. But like you had already said, they clearly are playing it safe in every way we've seen so far, so hopefully that doesn't extend to gameplay.

[@Neoxon619]

The team went through a miraculous transformation after Ono was demoted (for a 2nd time, no less) & eventually left the company. I hope that translates over to SF6

[@kaptinnyanx1706]

I think what they’re trying to do is what Third Strike what is trying to do? And that’s have a new generation of fighters take over the old generation of fighters. If you see both splashes of color the black and white, for ryu would represent the old generation of fighters, and the one for Luke would represent the new generation of fighters.

[@toastydanny9136]

Glad they changed Luke's designed. I wasn't to big on his look in SF 5.

[@jk844100]

They didn’t change his design for SF6. This is how he’s intended to look. Remember season 5 wasn’t supposed to happen, SF6 was delayed and to tide people over they through together an emergence DLC season. So they had to imagine what a younger Luke would have looked like. His design was changed for SF5, what you see here is his original design.

[@maxjustice1542]

I can understand why you think they are playing it safe and how this does not interest you in any way. What I think is exciting is that I’m going to be seeing a new SF in the future. The last season of SFV showed me that the development team are willing to be open and transparent about process in this series. I don’t think they are going to make the same mistakes again but we will see. It’s cool seeing people gain interest in SF again.

[@robertgeorge4602]

SFV having an identity crisis is something I 100% agree with. It frustrates me but also something I find so fascinating about it. As for SF6, I have no idea how this will develop and turn out. Its a bit early to give a clear idea. I will say the RE engine looks nice. Hopefully the 3d models will look a lot better and be better animated than SFV.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

SF5 essentially showed how the devs are still cowards about managing the roster. I mean the selective contrast between chars like Vega, Cody and Sakura, decently evolved, and then Ryu, Chun and Cammy. Like, Vega was even changed too much in moveset... While Ryu is basically the same as his SF3 form where he gained Shin Shoryuken and Denjin Hadouken.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

I admit i still have no idea of what i would like to see in an evolved Ryu. Like something as wild as one hand fireball, air fireball, etc... But a good starting point is changing staple animations. And definitely a brand new super - that would be perfect to send the message of the coming of a new Ryu.

[@UsoTeaMor]

As long as Makoto’s back, I’m in

[@ChargeQM]

As a fellow Makoto stan, not looking good so far.

[@UsoTeaMor]

@@ChargeQM yeah… shame sf2 gets all the special treatment as always 🙄 not a single sf3 or Alpha characters in the base roster

[@tikitakafutbol]

Poor, poor guy.

[@venexo1434]

I pity and understand you because I too, really want to play her.

[@UsoTeaMor]

@@venexo1434 So tired of people who don't even play the games asking for boring characters from 2

[@pockystyx4087]

I'm cautiously optimistic. SFV had a ton of issues in its development that ultimately set it back. So hopefully; with more time and new leadership, the game can come together. As for the trailer. . . god; I do not know who the hell's fetish Luke's forearm thing is, but I want nothing to do with it.

[@Arassar]

Yeah, the trailer was basically a teaser announcement with zero substance and everyone is bending over backwards to analyze things which may or may not actually reflect the finished game. We need to see something more substantial before we make any real judgements.

[@sonofaglitch7549]

What are your thoughts about the game sense it came out? Is it the step forward we all been waiting for or is it playing too safe?

[@fountgarde]

I hope the newer SF6 reveals were able to give you something to be excited about

[@beesree39]

almost like we know nothing or something..

[@joedatius]

yeah in hindsight this was a pretty pointless video simply to tell us why he's jaded over a teaser.

[@SamOnMaui]

For me it's too soon. Absence makes the heart grow fonder after all.

[@sakumaFR]

What excites me is seeing what happens after street fighter 3. I want to see what identity it takes because street fighter 3 was a very bold creation fully infused with 90s energy. I really can't pinpoint what influence SFV takes from, it feels quite modern for something that takes place before SF3 so there isn't much cohesion. I'm not really excited for the art style change but I kinda do wanna see what a more realisitic style would look like. I guess it's the same curiosity you have for seeing live-action adaptations. After watching their GDC, I also know that they already tried this artstyle before and it didn't work so maybe this realistic artstyle is only for this trailer. I do wish they could go the arc-system works route and push to emulate Akiman or Bengus' old style.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

I still believe the good amount of effort can make a nice looking SF that has stylized visuals and not going the Arcsys anime path. We dont have a strong evidence that SF definitely cant work in the current path its going, because SF devs just did lazy. For example, KoF made some cases of better looking hair than SF5, and it's a similar art style. If even SNK was able to do that - just for not wanting the banana hair - then a next gen SF could surely get a nice result if it has decent effort.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

Im an old SF fan and also a big fan of SF's artistic legacy like Akiman, Bengus (until MvC2), Nishimura, Edayan, etc... And also fond of the idea of emulating artists, that became easier recently. Like, even SF4 being ps3's ugliest 3d fg (graphics), it's clear that the game tried to stick to the staple SF looks defined in the mid 90s: exaggerated muscles, big focus on male shoulders, and good looking female legs, big hands, fingers and feet. In terms of anatomy, SF4 tried to get closer to early SFA art style. (And early DS and early Marvel, speaking outside SF) The looks shaped by Bengus, Ikeno and Edayan mainly. So i would like a next gen SF to stick to the staple style but just put effort on it, and trying to emulate one of those artists more directly.

[@sakumaFR]

@@carlosaugusto9821 I guess the issue of SF now is that it hasn't really been able to move forward. It seems to have been riding on the fact that they died and made a comeback with SF4 so they are riding the nostalgia wave and being inspired by itself rather than taking a direction inspired by something else. When I look at SF2, Alpha and 3, they always felt inspired by something outside itself. SF4 feels inspired by SF2 and SF5 feels inspired by SF Alpha. Maybe SF6 will be inspired by SF3. In order to stick to the staple style, SF6 would need to not bring forward its old style into new technology but rather evolve it. So just like you, I am skeptical of the realistic style being an evolution.

[@MrCageCat]

Okay but what the FUCK about King of Fighters 15 already????

[@g0ddish434]

Honestly, I just want them to go back to what they originally wanted in Five. A more dark and gritty setting with more rough looking characters.

[@leithaziz2716]

For the moment, I'm neutral. I do want to see more footage so that I can have an actual stance on the game, and I think that's the way to go about it for me personally.

[@jeromenancyfr]

I felt the same way. "Oh, the main character, and the guy who was already announced as part of "the future of Street fighter" are part of a surprise SF6 announce. Incredible." No gameplay, no hint at a new character, no features.

[@terrabranford9253]

I’m glad to not only be the only one who wasn’t excited for SF6. That little trailer, if you can even call it that, didn’t demonstrate how the game would look gameplay wise. So, I don’t understand what Capcom is trying to achieve.

[@dudebfg0123]

I wish the ending shot of Ryu with the credits would slowly widen

[@muffinmonkeys]

With SF 6's generic-ass logo and dumb font, I feel like the direction of the game is "COLLEGIATE ESPORTS LEAGUE". Hopefully those are placeholders.

[@antonsimmons8519]

I am definitely reserving judgement until we see something that's more than almost nothing.

[@RyuNoZero]

too safe? oof.. imo though they have to secure success with SF6, if they goof it like SFV then Street Fighter is Dead.

[@Zetact_]

we only have like 20 seconds of a teaser, not everyone can be like max and grind out like seven videos out of it

[@trapsnake6]

It was so strange for me to see the reveal, and all the fgc KZbin and twitch get so excited and happy over the trailer and I look at the trailer and they is literally nothing there. The "art style" is the same as 5 basically and that was basically the same as 4. I guess re engine could be nice, but it's not like anyone wants dramatic lighting in street fighter or is going to care much that you can see beads of sweat on the characters when you're trying to confirm a 3 frame into big damage. That said even if they don't stray far from the current style I'll like it way more than kof.

[@xravia79]

SF6 playing it safe is the weirdest take I've heard on the game yet.

[@dap0]

Good video. Looking forward to that Street fighter 5 retrospect video.

[@JomaXZ]

Very typical of a teaser to not show much worth talking about. Especially in this case, since the most interesting conversation to come out of this is the stock logo thing. Doesn't help that everyone saw SF6 coming a mile away either.

[@SapphireCarbuncle009]

I do hope that this teaser is meant to be Ryu passing on the mantle of "the face of street fighter" to the next generation, like how SF3 was planned to be. Otherwise I'm not gonna be interested in it at all

[@lukejones7164]

The new gen cast thing is a bad idea because its a major reason why SF3 was a commercial flop.

[@PatCatzz]

I hate to break it to you, but for every Yin, there is a Yang. For every wide Ryu, there is a lanky Ken. In a perfect world, we would have both. But if everyone was wide, no one would be.

[@decepticonmecha]

I love that Hot Ryu is finally canon. With an added wrap around the waste and sandles. That's obviously the natural evolution of that character.

[@Impalingthorn]

I'm honestly okay with them going for a hyper realistic look, but they have to own it. Return to the days of individual character stories instead of a single unified campaign, hire writers to give them some ACTUAL development, smooth out gameplay mechanics and make player choice matter from the start rather than 3 expansions later, and make the roster SOLID. All world warriors in there from the beginning, PLEASE, even if some of them like Bison have to show up as noncannon zombies. "Nightmare Bison" if you will, ala Nightmare Geese.

[@321Tdog]

A kinda unrelated note: I think we can assume a lot on what SF6's in-game animations will looks like by looking at Luke in SFV, his animations seem wildly different compared to the rest of the cast and I think it's because he already existed in SF6 so the dev team had an easy reference to copy and past from.

[@TheCJRhodes]

I think that's how most of us feel. Gotta follow the algo though man! I'm glad Max got his money's worth, somehow making 5 videos off of a 40 second trailer though lmao.

[@Neoxon619]

To be fair, Max comes from the perspective of having made fighting game trailers in the past. So he has a good idea of the work that goes into even a short teaser like this in terms of what the developers want to convey.

[@jacobfoxfires964]

@@Neoxon619 I mean it's one thing if we got the first bits and pieces of gameplay all in order to make some guesses of the new game and the possible new directions. This is just a whole ass 40 second cinematic. Not even what would be represented in the game, only get 2 characters with one only doing dialogue, get both their designs, and that is about it. Max here trying to milk a rock at this point.

[@Potidaon]

Looking forward to Max basically abandoning SF6 a month after launch like he did SFV and MK11 because they didn't fit the exact niche of what he wants gameplay-wise.

[@FranciscoFJM]

@@Potidaon I dont see the problem

[@shg45]

this is like a kappa thread

[@lagartopunkarra]

I like the visuals that they showed, but that's it. I will judge the game when we see gameplay and mechanics.

[@constructivecriticism2568]

To be fair, you had a lot more to say than I would’ve expected for a 40 second trailer.

[@ekwensu8797]

We need an updated video

[@Kusanagikaiser999]

I been waiting for that too, specially how wrong this video is now.

[@RapiereGridoro]

I am jumping every video of 20 minutes about this little seconds of trailer. I am glad that someone just make a video "that's nothing to say"

[@bigredradish]

honestly I think the shift to the RE Engine and what looks to be a more realistic style is playing it safe insofar as casual audiences are suckers for graphics that look as realistic as possible. it's either that or guilty gear's/fighterz's "as close to watching an anime as possible" and as cynical as I sound I really cannot fault the public for going for either extreme. I mean, the only KOF anybody in the states talked about for the longest time is the one that went Full Anime and MAAAAAYBE mvci would have been better received by the public if it was on some RE engine shit but that would have been. a lot more money than Disney wanted to spend. anyhow mucho texto sorry

[@goranisacson2502]

RE Engine MVC:I would probably be selling way more... but some part of me actually wish they'd have tried to make the game and it's characters look like Disney's current CGI movies. I feel this way because MVC2 tried to be the style of the 90's Marvel animated shows. They had the voice actors, the designs, everything. As such I'd have liked future MVC games carry on an "animated" style to really facilitate all that fast-paced super-action, rather than a realistic style that would have people subconsciously expect a more "realistic" pace and movement. Perhaps it shouldn't necessarily have to be "Tangled-era Disney" style, but I'm struggling to come up with another animated and lively style that both Marvel and Capcom characters can both look good in, since Marvel hasn't really had any succesful cartoons lately...

[@Ricardo7250]

This is a boring trailer that focuses more on bodybuilding than actual fighting. Capcom expected people to care for whatever reason, but it's hard when there's no storyline or controversy at all.

[@joedatius]

bro it was a teaser who cares

[@Ricardo7250]

@@joedatius I'll take my words back, the game looks awesome from the recent trailers

[@ThePigeonStoop]

Few problems I've had with SF Series and fighting games in general - Backstory: I've been Shoryuken'ing for 25 years and this is the first time I'm worried about the Street Fighter series in a long time. - We don't need MORE accessibility/easier time for new players or ways to dumb a game down. - We need more depth, Capcom and other fighters needs to stop with the kiddy pool of skills and become an ocean already. - Priority System and Crush Counter MUST GO! Its garbage that people are fishing with Heavy Punch/Heavy Kick because it provides an extention to combos you couldn't do. - Allow combo variety please SF6, The hypest moments in FGC are combos you've never seen, or not listed. unlimited ways to potentially start combos instead of a Fixed Direction is fun, more enjoyable and creativity happens. - Capcom needs to stop gimping their players and fans. Not everyone has money, let alone tournament money and so by hiding DLC characters behind a Payed wall. The idea of hiding 16 characters behind the Base 16 characters to make extra money is garbage, Show the class your work and include EVERYONE you want without DLC. I can't learn characters unless I pay for them? I'm done feeding Capcom money ontop of extra money for characters I'll never play but need to purchase to learn how to beat them.

[@Twitch_Bear]

who did they focus tested Luke on? cause he is not interesting in a slightest

[@slifer875]

Question will you review KOF 15?

[@DOFIXERR]

I was thinking that these models would fit perfectly in Tekken 7 as is.

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

Wide Zangief. It’s not a character ; it’s a *stage*.

[@chipslight738]

I don't understand (who am I kidding, of course I understand why) how so many channels can make 10+ minutes long video analysing a teaser that litterally has nothing in it. SFV started with a rough idea of its gameplay, this gives nothing to us. Until I see some gameplay, I don't give two shit about Ryu's beard or dick.

[@mariana84]

Yeah, no one knows. Since they've show literally nothing.

[@BlueLightningSky]

I think SFIV played it safe then SFV was like a soft reboot and SF6 is supposed to be an evolution. The only reason I'm super excited is because this is another chance for fighting games to be popular. This and Project L are the most likely candidates for making fighting games popular.

[@bena5150]

How is realistic graphics playing it safe? If anything, SF is known for always being different on every iteration. Isms, parry, fadc, triggers? Playing it safe would be Tekken. T7 is just every Tekken, with Rage. Playing it safe is KOF. XV is just XIV: Champion Edition.

[@gymguy8780]

Because nomies love realistic shit

[@lukejones7164]

Tekken 7 has plenty of fundamental differences from Tag 2 and Tekken 6, its not a rehash at all.

[@lukejones7164]

@@gymguy8780 Yet going for anime style isn't "safe"?

[@HER0333]

6 Could be the most controversial street fighter yet

[@JPCWhutwhut]

i would not call the new stylized realism graphics, safe, by any means

[@WraxTV]

I'm also not excited, but that's more due to the direction its going in. A lot of people say its too early to determine, but... SF4 made it obvious early on it was trying to appeal to nostalgia by making the original roster just be the original 12 world warriors plus 4 new new challengers. SFV made it obvious early on it was appealing to the eSports crowd by not even including a single player mode and basically early access releasing for the sake of tournaments and online play. So yeah, when I see the dark lighting, realistic textures, the positioning of Luke as the new MC, the logo - I feel like the only people who should be excited, are those that love real world MMA/Boxing more than they love Street Fighter.

[@joedatius]

glad you were wrong lol

[@Unpopular_Duality.]

I'm not a fan of Ryu design choice. Most traditional martial artists maybe slightly muscularly wide but they are more slim and toned. I'm hyped for SF6 but I hate that Ryu looks like he does. It's great to try to differentiate him from Ken but not like that just by making him wide bodied and overly muscular unless he has judo moves and techniques added for us to understand why he's muscular like he is. They probably won't give Ryu new moves to make his visual change understandable because he's the basic character in SF an all around character not many people play as him unless they already like him or they are a pro player trying to learn his moves but then he's beginning to become more like Akira from virtual fighter.

[@joedatius]

I know this is late but Ryu is inspired by Masutatsu Ōyama who was very much a very wide and muscular martial artist.

[@gogadantes8699]

I mean, wide Ken is a given. Ken and Ryu have always scaled to each other, both gameplay wise (partly except for SFV) and aesthetic proportion wise. If Ryu gets wide, Ken will too!

[@BingBangPoe]

I sure hope that logo is just a placeholder. Because it looks like something from a stock logo.

[@ayayronm]

This Ryu has fought Power Rangers and other superheroes, a pink bubblegum that eats everything, and shot genZ and millenials on an island. He's seen some shit.

[@hunnibuttr]

I felt the exact same way, especially when I saw the logo