A Beginner guide to Industrial Music | Style | History | Industrial Subgenres

[@MM-pl5ed]

holy mother of god, this is pure treasure. i will search and listen to every single band and artist you mentioned. industrial music is so addictive we want even more

[@helgaketurka]

@MM-pl5ed oh, it's so versatile, I couldn't mentioned every band I wanted, cause that would be a veeeery long video. I'm glad you enjoyed the video🥰🖤

[@gemaye9904]

I've never listened to industrial music but now I'm deeply curious, thanks for the awakening.

[@helgaketurka]

@@gemaye9904 My mission is successfully completed 😁thank you for watching 🖤

[@fyrebrandmetal]

I love the fact that industrial is getting much more attention nowadays. I’ve always loved that sound and niche, which is why make industrial metal myself. It’s always awesome finding other people in the scene.

[@helgaketurka]

I would still say that this genre does not get the attention it deserves, maybe this will change in the future. Everything comes back after all. In general, the dark scene, especially the electronic one, is not so popular because of stubborn people who literally do not let the new generation into their "elite club". It is enough to read the comments under this video. I have been listening to industrial music for more than 15 years and there are still people who pick on the little things and my alleged ignorance of the material part

[@fyrebrandmetal]

@ oh I totally agree with everything you just wrote. But to folks y you do find that love the music and see each other as part of the community, it’s refreshing and does give you hope that the dark electronic genres will come back around in larger popularity. I, for one, appreciate that you made the video; videos like this gives the chance for cool people to find each other 😄

[@fredmccleary368]

Skinny puppy the kings of industrial

[@woodreauxwoodreaux6298]

You perfectly captured the scene I used to frequent in Bayern and New Orleans. The first time I heard someone characterize the music and style as "Industrial", I immediately recognized it and loved it. Great work, Helga!

[@embobineuse1]

Thank you for the video. I know, it's difficult to make a choice for "industrial", but I really missed Einstürzende Neubauten and Ministry a little bit. And Chrome are from San Francisco (I mixed them live, nearly 10 Years ago and it was an amazing concert).

[@helgaketurka]

To be honest, I planned to put Ministry into the video, prepaired the photoe and text and forgot while editing. 😬Shame on me, but there are so many bands, I simply can't cover them all😉

[@bobbiriseling3055]

I'm older so I was in my early 20's when I came across industrial. My first love was atari teenage riot. I was into hardcore punk but loved this new sound. For me it came at the perfect time and now my world is a beautiful eclectic blend of hardcore💚

[@helgaketurka]

I envy in a good way. Those were probably the best times in terms of freedom of imagination🖤

[@bobbiriseling3055]

@@helgaketurka they were!! I miss it and hope we can capture it again

[@sinnergy73]

One cannot speak on American industrial without mentioning Wax Trax and Ministry. Without either there would be no industrial in the States. Chicago being the birthplace of the US scene.

[@helgaketurka]

To be honest, I planned to put Ministry into the video, prepaired the photos and text and forgot while editing. 😬Shame on me, but there are so many bands, I simply can't cover them all😉

[@RobertMunro-wb6jb]

They definitely are a very important band but Al from ministry said that his main inspiration to change ministry’s early synth based sound to a more heavy guitar based sound was when he went to see the band big black live , so big black deserve a mention and I would say the early period of swans were quite influential also ! But I definitely agree that wax tracks was a super important label!!!!

[@industrialmonk]

As a child in the 1970s & discovering punk in 1976 & Deutschlands music i think the personification of industrial music is Einsturzende Neubauten ' Autobahn ' & i look forward to & live for my next musical trip to Deutschland.

[@SaintMartins]

I like your style 💜reminds me of my youth.1985 -1987 i was a Punk Rocker. I wore military combat boots, ripped jeans & green miliary jacket with band patches. Then 1988-1991 i liked electro-industrial & Shoegazer music. I dressed all black, turtleneck sweater, dress pants, oxford shoes & the 80's hair over 1 eye look.

[@dannialien5926]

what about Coil?

[@RobertMunro-wb6jb]

The best to ever do it in my opinion!

[@smicrv]

Also ReCoil

[@andrewcrow1031]

The video was OK, if somewhat lacking. At 62, my first exposure to industrial were the Canadian bands skinny puppy and Front Line Assembly. Glad to see the younger generation are keeping it going!

[@helgaketurka]

@andrewcrow1031 This video was made for beginners, but somehow in my comment section there is a bunch of "older" people who are into this music for 20+ years pointing that I haven't mentioned this or that band. I listen to this kind of music for at least 15 years. For beginners, this amount od bands is more than enough 😉But thank you for watching

[@andrewcrow1031]

@@helgaketurka Thank you for the video!

[@MetanoiaMystery]

the profile pic is top notch. i will be diving into more of this channels comments

[@klapaucius500]

Very well put!

[@lukasso]

As a teenager, I always preferred the more aggressive and rebellious aspects of electronic music, starting with The Prodigy. My first industrial-rock band was Agressiva 69, rather unknown outside Poland. To this day (I'm 44 years old) it is my favorite genre of music.

[@MusicAdvocat3]

love this! great history lesson too! rock th F on!

[@docteurguillotine]

great works! i am in the scene since the 90's, even organised some festivals in France, i am pleased to see a new generation !

[@helgaketurka]

Well, I'm 30, wouldn't say that I'm new in this theme;))Unfortunately this scene is not getting younger, people, for example, at M'era Luna festival are like 40+. So I made this video sort of for newer people to come😉

[@docteurguillotine]

@@helgaketurka at 47 i perfectly see what you mean :)

[@clubedosusto5409]

Didn't knew that much about industrial. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@helgaketurka]

@@clubedosusto5409 My pleasure , thank you for watching 🖤

[@noctis_clown]

The Japanese industrial band Blam Honey is one my favorite industrial bands

[@martinoppermann9868]

Really Goood summary!

[@stephanvenner2939]

Neon Judgement are from Belgium and Chrome are from the USA. Einstürzende Neubauten was also a very important Band here in Germany.

[@DielectricFailure]

I was kidnapped from the death metal scene and brought into industrial by 2 bands. Fear Factory but also Front 242. What I liked about death metal was the powerful drums but you’re limited really to maintaining an acoustic drum but industrial had no limits for drum sounds. But I found electronic industrial techno (SNTS) had more aggression and kept it going. Fear Factory was a gateway since they had certain elements of both genres. Cool video. I definitely dig your look too.

[@helgaketurka]

@DielectricFailure Thank you for your comment and point of view. I myself am a huge fan of black/death/ doom metal, and I find it absolutely logical to combine these genres and industrial - aggressive, dark, melancholic and desperate🖤

[@FugazStar]

great. Industrial and aggrotech are my fav, along with goth metal and pretty much any dark sound :)

[@luxxus242]

I never hear anyone mention The Hunger, I saw them live in a small venue in the mid 90's.

[@ascionor]

Have a Like for mentioning Wumpscut.

[@steinarvilnes3954]

Should maybe have given Belgium more attention. Yes, I know it may have have been a thing for more than almost 30 years, but in the eighties it was extremely influential within the genre with band slike Front 242, Neon Judgment(which seem to be mentioned), Klinik Vomito Negro, A Split Second, Force Dimension, Absolute Body Control and such. It was the biggest "industrial country" in like 1986-88 when the genre had a high at least here in Scandinavia.

[@helgaketurka]

Those are basicaly all EBM bands and EBM is another huge rabbit hole and it deservers a separate video😉

[@steinarvilnes3954]

@@helgaketurka It is often difficult to know the difference. An american would propably call those bands "industrial" while a European would not. It is just like people from the US call everything that is early eighties and not typically from the US "new wave".

[@trcaggiano]

Also, there was much experimentation in the late 70's at colleges, where sounds were made with chains and various metal pieces, wood etc. Moreover, the Junkanoo parade in the Bahamas also incorporates many metal car parts and such, anything that was resounding and loud!! Ministry was my first live band in the genre!! I love dark industrial bands!!

[@helgaketurka]

@trcaggiano And I haven't told about the phenomenon when people transmitted samples and various sounds on the radio in the 60s. but this is not so much about industrial as about electronic music in general. Thank you for watching 🖤

[@trcaggiano]

@@helgaketurka I love sounds and noise, {well, not the annoying ones, lol,} I thank you for making this video; I look forward to your next edition...Thank you and much love!!

[@helgaketurka]

@@trcaggiano And thank you for your kind words🖤

[@leperlord7078]

Great video Very little if anything left out Die Form from France comes to mind, tho it is post and electronic industrial. Philippe`s early work def. fits in here Their cover art alone is some of the best in the biz. Runes order( Order 1968 ) , especially the early stuff being quite ritualistic industrial. "I Can See No Reason To Live ... But Hate" & "Murders" maybe 2 personal faves, tho more electronic and experimental From a pure industrial standpoint tho you really nailed it

[@helgaketurka]

@leperlord7078 Thank you, although I wanted to make a brief "essay", sure there was so much more to say. Thank you for watching 🖤

[@doomsdayprophet6847]

Rivetheads rejoice!

[@EugeneLorey]

The first record like this I bought was SPK, Meat Processing Section 7". I bought it because of the weird skull face on the sleeve. Wasn't too sure of what to make of it. It definitely made me uncomfortable.

[@helgaketurka]

That's a very underground and heavy stuff

[@sh0rtzchann3l]

The Neon Judgement is a Belgian band, not a French one

[@helgaketurka]

I know, I just forgot to mension it in the video in a text form

[@rikkb1455]

Rivet Heads rise up!

[@hoppkins]

V interesting thanks!

[@helgaketurka]

Thank you for watching😉

[@RobertMunro-wb6jb]

If you’re going to mention the American guitar based industrial music you really should mention 2 bands !!! Early period swans and big black !!! Those 2 bands were a massive influence to a lot of bands that came after them !!! Another English band that definitely deserves a mention is godflesh !!!

[@helgaketurka]

@RobertMunro-wb6jb You should have been more attentive, cause I mentioned Godflesh, for example 😉

[@helgaketurka]

@RobertMunro-wb6jb Evwryone thinks that I should have mentioned some band that they know/like, it's almost impossible to cover them all. I picked more that enough bands and projects for beginners

[@RobertMunro-wb6jb]

I agree but I think those 2 are quite important to the development of a lot of the bands like ministry etc ! No hate or anything like that !!! ☮️

[@g-man4744]

I've been into industrial music for over 20 years and I think the name itself is problematic to describe pretty much all the bands in this video, same as punk i think we should use the term "post-industrial" to describe all the crossovers that happened from the 80s on. The "true" industrial music lives on in the subgenres of power electronics, noise and dark ambient IMO but its not particularly easy listening!

[@helgaketurka]

That's why this video calls "For beginners", nowadays it's gonna be impossible for people to understand "true" industrial, cause you should know the context and literaly live in that environmentand circumstanses. And I don't want this movement to disappear at all

[@AnnaKron19]

I perfectly agree with you!

[@g-man4744]

@@helgaketurka I hear you, but I think people could perfectly understand Throbbing Gristle, SPK or Whitehouse straight away, I discovered these in the early 2000s, over 20 years after the fact, and yet loved them immediately without particular knowledge. I'm not sure if listening to aggrotech is going to make the appreciation of these bands any easier as it's like a different style a music. Anyway, please keep promoting these, I like your presentation, the difference voice filters you used, thank you and best of luck!

[@helgaketurka]

@g-man4744 Well, thank you for that, I appreciate a good comment and reasonable criticism🤜🤛

[@Jack_Rivet]

I've been into industrial for over 30 years, and I don't really have a problem with her using the term Industrial for the artists in this video If you start arguing what is and isn't real industrial you're going to fall down a rabbit hole so deep we'll never get out. For example, you think Dark Ambient is real industrial, I'd say it's Post Industrial (as would most people familiar with the subject). Some people say that quote unquote Real Industrial started and ended with Throbbing Gristle I think for the scope and purposes of this video (a starting point rather than a comprehensive definitive guide) the artists chosen are fine I disagree with a couple of points in this video, but I'm happy she made it because as long as people are discussing and holding forth with their opinions on this musical form it's not going to die

[@hoppkins]

Sorry any chance you tell me the tune at 6:41 please?

[@helgaketurka]

I don't want to upset you, but all music I use is AI generated...unfortunately🤷

[@hoppkins]

@@helgaketurka hah wow, didnt expect that

[@helgaketurka]

@@hoppkins yeah, the future has come. From one hand it's a very convinient thing, but on the other... weird

[@santoshsharma483]

No mention of Al Jourgensen of Ministry? That's kind of Sacrilege. There's not even a mention of Rammstein.

[@helgaketurka]

@santoshsharma483 You know, some people are just searching for something that's missing😉Is that the end of the world? There are not enough bands for beginners to start with?

[@santoshsharma483]

@@helgaketurka yea but seriously, it's kind of sacrilege that Ole Man Al isn't mentioned. He's the Godfather of Industrial rock. There are even Japanese Industrial rock bands like Schaft, Der Eisenrost, Mad Capsule Markets. Look them up,they're awesome.

[@helgaketurka]

@@santoshsharma483 Well I actually will, thanks for that, I appreciate it😉

[@santoshsharma483]

@@helgaketurka cheers, keep digging and you'll find plenty of industrial jewels in the world. Looking forward to part 2 of your vid.

[@mstone-wd7kc]

@@santoshsharma483Exactly, it makes the doc a joke, which I shouldn’t be surprised by considering the cringeworthy pose down towards the end.

[@EricDufau]

Well, a bit puzzled, to be honest. No mention of Die Einstürzende Neubauten in the early days of the German industrial scene, one of the main references back in the days, no mention of the Belgian scene, nor Ministry neither Wax Trax for ths US scene (and more)... But anyway, I guess it works as an introduction to this musical genre. As for the 'fashion', it weren't any in the 1980s. Just the usual mess, which btw characterised the period 1980-1985. It came much later.

[@helgaketurka]

Belive me, you're not the first one to tell me that I missed some band. The fact is that this video is shown to the people that are into this scene for decades, although the video says "for beginners'. I mentioned enough bands for the introduction, I could have done more, but never enough for some people. KZbin has not that much videos on this topic, so at least I do somethng. Anyways thank you for watching

[@helgaketurka]

As for the fashion, of course I show nowadays variations, mine to be exact😉

[@EricDufau]

@@helgaketurka Indus music has always been on the fringe, anyway. I agree with that - it's an introduction.

[@mstone-wd7kc]

@@helgaketurkaBut Ministry, specifically Al Jourgenson is literally the God Father of the industrial scene and his fashion during that time has been copied to death. This is ridiculous tbh

[@synapticmemoryseepage4447]

Industrial music for digital people.

[@pabloperezmoral]

Voivod?

[@Jack_Rivet]

I'd argue they've always been a progressive thrash band, with heavy elements of Post Punk But classifying Voivod is ultimately a fools errand. They're just Voivod, and we love them for it

[@pabloperezmoral]

​@@Jack_Rivetyou're totaly right. At the end of 80's and beginning of 90's i remember that some magazines classified them as "industrial thrash" or something like that. Great band!

[@josefsaint]

3:48 Chrome are Americans (SF)

[@ericfrederick1227]

Chrome is from California

[@antoniomunozgomez8]

Hello,I think you have missed the English bands. Alien sex fiend,nitzer ebb. Thanks for you good job.

[@helgaketurka]

Alien sex fiend is pure gothic rock and Nitzer Ebb is an EBM band...very close, but not exactly😉Thank you for watching, I appreciate it🖤

[@antoniomunozgomez8]

@@helgaketurka thanks for the clarification. In Spain the beginnings of the movement,were a little diferent

[@mstone-wd7kc]

Lol How did you skip over Ministry? They’re pioneers of the sound.

[@Jack_Rivet]

FWiW Uncle Al isn't fond of being called Industrial. I get the impression he doesn't want to be confined to specific genre tropes or be part of a regimented, organised scene (But he'll still cash the cheques...)

[@jech1216]

Damn. Do JOIs

[@MetanoiaMystery]

VILE comment

[@misterhatley5894]

1934 Duesseldorf. Real origin.

[@Jack_Rivet]

Thank you for this. Everyone and his mother is telling you off for leaving out Ministry when ironically Al Jourgensen doesn't like being called Industrial in the first place (the guy has made everything from synth pop to trad country under one name or another, so he might have a point) I don't agree with all your points, but I appreciate you taking the time to create this Not least because it mentioned a few acts that I wasn't familiar with and I will happily investigate (when it comes to Neue Deutsche Harte I basically only know Rammstein, because they are the ones that made the biggest impact in the Anglophone world). Also I'd never heard the term TDM until today even though I love industrial/dark techno (excluding when it refers to the Tactical Ballistic Missiles flying around Eastern Europe right now) Industrial is a broad church, and like any church people are determined to fight about what is and isn't included. For example, if you go by the idea that it is music influenced by the sound of machines, remember that Berry Gordy Jr wrote a whole lot of early Motown songs while working the assembly line in car factories in Detroit, and he wrote the music to the beat of the machines. So that means maybe early Soul Music is industrial. (And maybe it is...) For what it's worth an American chap named S Alexander Reed wrote a book called Assimilate: A Critical History of Industrial Music that can be a little dry in places but it is by far the best and most rigorous writing about the genre I've ever found Either way, keep making videos. I'm enjoying what you're contributing

[@helgaketurka]

That's the whole problem. Industrial music has long been too vague in its boundaries. Therefore, it is too difficult to succinctly explain the development of this genre. People who reproach me for not mentioning some very important group or simply their favorite, in fact, just watch the video in order to find mistakes. And if you really want to, mistakes can be found everywhere. Thank you very much for watching, I really appreciate objective and thorough criticism