the INDUSTRIAL SYNTHESIZERS you must know

[@Tonepusher]

My mistake: It's obviously the Sequential Circuits Prophet VS and not the ''Roland'' prophet VS. I need more sleep loll 😴 Again this is no top 5, every synth deserve love equally lol Did you watch the bloopers at the end? haha 🤣 Should I always add bloopers? haha

[@kenlemery2633]

It's because of you, I'm broke. Lol

[@Tonepusher]

@@kenlemery2633 lol I'm sorry? 🤣

[@kenlemery2633]

@Tonepusher No you're not. Lol

[@kinexkinex971]

waiting 2 minutes of commrcial add for this global info is full of regret to click.

[@Tonepusher]

@@kinexkinex971 thanks for your constructive comment 🙏

[@zanderxymox]

6:25 Testure :) so glad I found your channel recently, I haven't been able to find much on people covering technical stuff about my favorite bands on KZbin, so this is really good to see!

[@Tonepusher]

haha thanks man! I'm happy to share knowledge. Just starting!🤘 thanks for commenting and supporting :))

[@DavidBoura]

Some of Front 242 synths: Yamaha DX7, Emu Emulator II, Ensoniq VFX

[@blastattack4628]

I've been studying the industrial scene deeply for the last 3 years, and it's so nice that you're also immersed in it. Thank you so much for the knowledge! Hugs from Russia.

[@Tonepusher]

hey np !! trying to share as much as I can! hehe giving all my secretssss here 😂

[@7Sharpened2]

Great video! Thoser bloopers were fun too!

[@Tonepusher]

haha thanks! 😅🤘🏻

[@stenandersson8064]

Interesting stuff. I appreciate that you don't talk so fast and forced that so many youtuber does, it's much more comfortable listen to it this way,👍

[@Tonepusher]

haha thanks 🙏🏻 Yeah Im not into "youtuby retention editing" 🤷🏻‍♂️ Also since Im french I try to pronounce as best as I can haha 😅

[@pLiskin_87]

Awesome work! Charlie’s gear space comments are a gold mine of information.

[@Tonepusher]

yeah haha it's insane, Covid wasn't all that bad after all lol

[@Maschinestorm]

Clouser randomly appeared on the dsp563 discord the other day. wonder if he is watching 🤔(ala 'big brother')

[@ktreier]

I think the Sequential Pro-3 is a modern worthy addition. Very gritty. Wavetable 3rd Oscillator, and overdrive available at almost every step in the signal chain.

[@strangehermitage2299]

Great video, man. The bloopers at the end are an endearing touch!

[@Tonepusher]

haha thanks! yeahhh I'll definitely add bloopers from now on lol

[@jam6000]

Great vid!!! I hope this is pt 1 out of 10

[@marsoblivi0n945]

Missed MS-20 & Evolver! Great video!

[@Tonepusher]

I talked about the MS20 in another video. But yeah the Evolver was a very popular synth. I don't know much about it though, I never tried it.

[@AlyKraiem]

U r one of the rarest on youtube that i like the video before even watching the video!! Good job bro never stop

[@Tonepusher]

haha wow thank you so much!! 👊🤟

[@swinehorde9118]

In the 2010s, I sold off a JP-8000, a Virus KC and a MS-2000, in an effort to finance an all analog dawless setup. I wouldn't say that this was a mistake but I'd be lying if I didn't admit that I have grown to have some regrets about this. In a way, those old VAs kind of struck the perfect balance of cost-effectiveness between feature richness and the immediacy of hardware programmability. Of course, this came at the cost of them being basically plugins running off limited 90s hardware resources, housed inside fancy controllers but there was something charming and magical about their brash syntheticness and the way that they aliased when you changed values on them...

[@Tonepusher]

Oh 100% and there's something different about designing sounds with actual knobs too instead of mouse and screen. Which is faster/easier but different.

[@pierresteytler9370]

I have a 20 year old Virus C. I will never sell it for this very reason.

[@Tonepusher]

@@pierresteytler9370 take good care of it man haha

[@pierresteytler9370]

@@Tonepusher it was my first proper hardware synth, and it’s still mint condition even now. I know most VST’s can probably cover it, but that’s not the point. I might be showing my age, but there’s no substitute for playing on actual hardware IMO.

[@Tonepusher]

@@pierresteytler9370 I completely agree hehe And the Black color with the red lights looks so badass hehe

[@AndreCholmondeley]

Excellent vid. Classic synths

[@Tonepusher]

thanks man :) 🤘

[@Tonepusher]

thanks man :) 🤘

[@s.o.n.]

back in the day we used the JP-8080 for 90% of our synth sounds (virtual analog is amazing for creating, and the effects on that unit are very tweakable), and today I use it quite a bit still. The only draw back are the presets where they layer the crap out of everything and make them unmixable in tracks with a guitar. great content as always

[@Tonepusher]

haha never owned a JP8000, I guess the presets are all 90s dance stuff? haha

[@Maschinestorm]

@@TonepusherThey are somewhat generic. I have heard them used before, but it is not like vanguard where schleis had already designed things to just work out of the gate. Anyone with a JP will have some soundset loaded or their own creation.

[@xaviermorel6352]

All your infos are so cool ❤ , absolute killers

[@Tonepusher]

haha! thanks

[@chinmitten]

I was lucky enough to find an ESQ-1 with a 3D printed EPROM cart that had a zillion patches on it. Paid a little over $400.. what a gem.

[@Tonepusher]

wow haha that is a GOOD price 👌🏻 I'd love to get an SQ80

[@Spayeddead]

Got mine for $150 🤗

[@daccrowell4776]

Two I know of, both from Kawai: the K4/K4r and the XD5. The K4 is capable of some gritty, nasty digital racket, but the XD5 is the big win. Every sort of percussive sound it can make (as it's their drum sound module) has this edge to it...gritty (it is related to the K4r, after all), metallic, VERY digital. If you like dystopian, percussion-heavy industrial, it's a must-have.

[@Tonepusher]

The X5D is all over early Dimmu Borgir and I LOVE it haha I'm seriously thinking of buying the x5DR. Never heard the drums on it tho, but Im curious!!

[@marial8235]

I love the K4 and it also has a funky drum section with grungy samples. I used to sync the k4 to drums on my w30 and see what I could get. It was usually nasty and bizarre.😂😂

[@recycled_city]

@@TonepusherI think you are thinking of the Korg x5D. They are referring to the Kawai XD5, which is a “drum” rack unit built on the same architecture as the Kawai K4 and K4R synth. It’s a wild drum synth capable of all sorts of bizarre sounds. Highly recommended. I’ll definitely never sell mine.

[@Maschinestorm]

K4r all the way. FLA had used in the past. The k1r vst is also usable to some extent.

[@LucidLivingMusic]

This is my dream video come true. Thank you so much for making these videos! I watch them on loop and take actual notes and use them in my music. I can’t thank you enough! I really should subscribe to your patreon!

[@Tonepusher]

heyy! np 😊 I'm happy to share my passion with you! 🤘🏻

[@HollowPointNine]

The Casio CZ-1 is one of the most Industrial sounding synths I’ve ever owned. I think there’s a virtual version and also theres a very good user oscillator for the Korg Prologue which captures its sound well. The CZ shares a stand with my Microwave XTK and DSI PolyEvolver forming a virtuous circle of total Industrial mayhem which usually gets sampled into my many old boat anchor samplers. Of those the Casio FZ-10m is my favorite and has been since my first one in 1990.

[@HollowPointNine]

I wanted to add that Gotharmans makes the ultimate Industrial synth/sampler instruments money can buy nowadays.

[@Tonepusher]

@@HollowPointNine yeah man Casio's synths are SO underrated, they sound great af. And look cool too I think. Never heard of Gotharmans, I'll check that out !

[@ventures_gowest]

As usual I love your videos!🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 All the best from France 👍🏻

[@Tonepusher]

Merci beaucoup pour le support 🖤

[@ventures_gowest]

@@Tonepusher My pleasure!😊

[@jaywhy3178]

Love the videos Tonepusher! Also, shout out to "The Usual Suspects" and their synth emulators. So many amazing synths that used that DSP chip, so them being able to use the original hardware synth ROMs make near perfect emulations of all those classic synths. **Yes to bloopers at the end of videos. Bloopers rule.

[@Tonepusher]

Haha awesome! Yeah man ''the usual suspects'' are insane! haha looooove that Virus emulation. I had the actual Ti Snow and I can tell you there's no difference at all hehe

[@mimikova390]

I love my ESQ1. It was my first synth and was a hand-me-down from my papa when he got his triton. Learning on that made programming my hydrasynth years later a breeze.

[@Tonepusher]

haha for sure! Programming on old school machines is a great school haha

[@mimikova390]

@@Tonepusher if you look the layout of h=the hydra is just like the esq. if you have to have a synth with menus the esq and hyrda are the best. the page nav buttons and large screen make it easy.

[@mimikova390]

@@Tonepusher have you tried the hydrasynth??

[@mimikova390]

@@Tonepusher Have you seen the layout of the hydrasynth and compared it? I'm sure it was inspired by the ESQ1

[@Tonepusher]

@@mimikova390 yeah I looked at it and I think you're right. Especially the ''screen layout'' with the knobs on top and bottom.

[@forever3797]

Great vid bro - and you just went straight into it...

[@Tonepusher]

thanks to you! :) 🤘

[@Sonikbytes]

I had many of these synths back in the days : Waldorf XT,( I got Xenia beta now) MW1, JP-8080, Nord lead 2, still have ESQ1 and virus ti but never knew they have been heavily used in industrial and ebm music except maybe a few.

[@Tonepusher]

Wow, yeah I used to have a shit ton of synths too. Sold them all. I regret lol

[@imothy]

I had an original arp 2600 in the early 2000's i found for a ridculous low price, but only kept it for a few years i had to sell it to pay rent :(. Today I have a TTSH clone of the 2600 that I built piece by piece soldering over 3000 solder joints and it works perfectly like the original, down to the reverb tank! I love this synth. But I have also played on the behringer arp 2600's and they are a very good clone that if you can afford one grab it! Its funny that you don't know about the behringer, or just didn't mention it in the video, but don't be fooled its a true re creation, and very inspiring to have such a beast for under $500!

[@Tonepusher]

haha nice! yeah that arp2600 would be paying a year worth of rent now haha I obviously know about the Behringer. But at this point they're cloning every synth haha 🤷🏻‍♂️ I do have a Poly D and I love it 👌🏻

[@imothy]

@@Tonepusher yeah i found the thing for $1700 in 2005, sold it in 2011 for 4k, now the're like 10k++ i hate my life! but the TTSH is the same thing, its the sound that matters at the end of the day!

[@Tonepusher]

@@imothy oh 100%, if it's not for collecting, then the clones are a very good choice hehe

[@LihimSidhe]

99% of what you're talking about I have no idea what you're saying. But I stay because 1) I was 'that kid' in the 90's that was into industrial/NIN. 2) I like how you present your message and you obviously have a love for this music 3) I'm going through a mid life crisis realizing that this music is over THIRTY F--KING YEARS OLD. These bands/records are older than my mom's Meatloaf and Alice Cooper casette tapes were when I first discovered NIN! +1 for 'minimal NIN all digital bedroom studio' ;)

[@Tonepusher]

Haha thank you so much man :) Eventho you're not into music production, like you said, I think it's fun to watch because of the ''historical'' part of it too. Music has changed a lot since, especially the gear! hehe And although it looks like a ''bedroom studio'' it's actually a studio rented in an office building which I decorated like a ''bedroom studio'' to feel cozy haha !! 🤘 thanks a lot for the support !! much appreciated 🙏

[@mattkomlofske8912]

Hey, if anyone didn't know, Xenia is in open beta and sounds amazing!! So if you're like me and got into producing industrial after these machines became rare, you should go check out all of The Usual Suspects synth releases. They have the Virus, Waldorf Micro Q, Microwave 2, and their next one is the Nord Lead 2, which I used to own and sold because I didn't know how to use it at the time. Thanks for the informative videos, dude.

[@mylivetubetv]

Good to see you on here.... Hope you have been well, mate!

[@DonSolaris]

Roland Prophet VS is one of my favorite synths!

[@Tonepusher]

lol 👀👀👀

[@livettp]

Continue de travailler fort, le résultat est excellent 🤘

[@Tonepusher]

hey merci beaucoup, c'est vrm apprécié 🙏🏻🤘🏻

[@dolst]

NITZER EBB MENTIONED! 🥳🍾 Surf Wisely.

[@LANDSEAAIRCANADA]

Great work, certainly a must watch video Thanks !

[@Tonepusher]

hey thanks :)

[@Jhihmoac]

Quasimidi Raven, Roland XP-50, Korg Wavestation EX, Roland D-50, Waldorf XT, Korg T Series, Roland JD-800, and the Sequential Prophet VS

[@Tonepusher]

all classics!! esp the XT, JD800 and VS :) I love the look of the JD-800

[@Jhihmoac]

@@Tonepusher - I swapped one with another guy I knew while he had my Roland W30 sampler workstation for 6 months... I almost didn't give the JD back! It featured hands-on direct editing via knobs and sliders, while everything else during that time was scrolling through functions and opening up and setting parameter after parameter in order to customize a particular patch - including the JD-800's rival, the Korg Wavestation EX!

[@MarcVFons]

Amazing! thanks a lot your content is gold! there´s an inmense lack of information in KZbin about EBM and Industrial and any commercial tutorials. Just a suggestion, it could be cool some explaining the most usual scales used.

[@Tonepusher]

Thanks man! you're right, there's a HUGE lack of information about industrial music online. I feel like it's one of the most creative music genre ever. I don't know everything obviously, but I'll share what I know the best as I can :)

[@Maschinestorm]

Vulture Culture has gone into some detail of waxtrax era. At least when it comes to the kawai r-50/100.

[@Sashman077]

Great channel ! Love your contents. 👍👍👍

[@Tonepusher]

hey! thanks a lot 🙏🏻🤘🏻

[@DielectricFailure]

Thanks for this video! I’m glad to find your channel recently.

[@Tonepusher]

thanks for commenting and supporting man :)

[@DielectricFailure]

@@Tonepusher Anytime!

[@Divuar]

Very cool, thanks for another great piece of knowledge!

[@Tonepusher]

hey np! thanks to you! :))

[@Maschinestorm]

SC used the wall bob patch modified. half resonance fullcutoff 5 attack (for the filter pop) 25 sustain 50 decay 25 release. Project Pitchfork heavily used 8000 and virus for Eon:Eon era and Throbbing Gristle had 8080 on stage.

[@brianbergmusic5288]

Sweet list! I had a Roland JP-8080 that I sold to buy a guitar. I sometimes miss that synth, but I would personally choose a different one if I buy a hardware synth again. Most folks recommend it for EDM or specifically trance... I never thought I'd see it in an industrial countdown. Today, I have Cherry Audio's Mercury 6 emulation (mimics the Roland Jupiter 6 instead) -- which I like better than the JP. I have often coveted the Ensoniq ESQ-1 or SQ-80 -- I'd prefer owning one of those above the Roland JP series. Fortunately, there is a freebie software plugin known as SQ8L by Siegfried Kullmann. Your DAW must be compatible with 32-bit plugins or use a compatibility layer. I like it! It's also very kind to the CPU DSP-load.

[@Corvid]

If you ever do a video on industrial samplers, Rammstein's heavy use of the Ensoniq ASR-10 is a must have. I don't believe it's all that popular with anyone other than Rammstein in the industrial world, but it's difficult to overemphasise how much of Rammstein's sound revolves around the ASR-10, specifically the range of sample CDs available for it, along with running samples through the effects unit. Richard's trademark sound is the Mesa Dual Rectifier, Paul's is the SansAmp PSA-1 (both DI and into a power amp/cab) along with the SansAmp GT2 in the modern era, Flake's sound is the ASR-10. Rammstein's keyboardist "Flake" Lorenz has his own signature distortion sound (one specific effects chain in the ASR-10), used to create what some people have called the "Flake" solo: essentially the keyboard version of a guitar solo. Used notably in Ich Tu Dir Weh, Frühling in Paris, Das Alte Leid, Wo Bist Du, Hallomann etc. Very specific knowledge, but hey... a lot of industrial really IS nerding the fuck out about a really neat piece of gear. When I got into music in 2008, there was virtually no information about Rammstein's keyboards. Literally just the names of the odd keyboard. No one who was into Rammstein owned one, let alone made videos about it! I was either the first or one of the first to buy an ASR-10 specifically because of Rammstein, and a couple of people on KZbin who ended up being far more dedicated than me still make videos about Rammstein's synths and samples. Most keyboard Flake uses are just for specific presets, but the ASR-10 has remained a staple in Rammstein sound. Hopefully a new generation of musicians will find their way a lot quicker in music than I did because of videos like this, keep up the great work!

[@Tonepusher]

Hey thanks a lot for your comment man! 🤘 Sure the ASR-10 is very very important and like you said 90s Sample CDs hehe I could literally make a video just about Rammstein tbh. Thinking about it. I didn't know about the ''Flake solo'' although I noticed that sound in many songs. Now that you tell me this, I need to remake it on Serum :D haha I grew up with Rammstein, got into industrial because of them. I bought Sehnsucht tape cassette when it came out, I was 9 or 10 I think. Changed my life.

[@Corvid]

@@Tonepusher If you do decide to make a video on them and want a truly insane amount of information, various people on here along with myself would be happy to share everything we know about Rammstein's keyboards. I got into music purely because of them, and although I ended up getting wildly sidetracked by learning guitar/bass/mixing/production/etc and working on my own music, my first love with always be Rammstein. I ceased being the person who had the most information on them easily 12 years ago when people like @Stefan0xXx and @dudu046 came on the scene. Really glad to know others are carrying the torch, because I royally fell down the music rabbit hole, never to be seen again! Rammstein were life-changing for me too... the moment I heard them on "The Matrix: Music From The Motion Picture", I was absolutely sold. My blueprint musically (for one band at least) is still that compilation CD if it were all by one band (big Prodigy fan, was really into RATM and got massively into Muse, of the the bands heavily inspired by RATM). Always with the Rammstein super aggressive guitars though 😁

[@Maschinestorm]

@@Corvid an1x for the era this act mattered

[@masterofreality230]

I am not super into synths yet, but I love the Access Virus synths.

[@Tonepusher]

they are classics, the Virus sounds soooo good

[@masterofreality230]

@@Tonepusher I just have the plugin, but I love it.

[@johannjohann6523]

Good enough you got a new subscriber. Hell Yeah

[@Tonepusher]

haha thanks for supporting man 🤘🏻

[@Niilz]

Very good information. Geek topic! 🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼

[@Tonepusher]

hey np 🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@Niilz]

@@Tonepusher I have asked Bill and Rhys (FLA) several times during the last ten years, which synths and VSTs they have used, still like to use… Your video captures their answers. Spot on!

[@theodore8178]

Uff another issue i used to have... syncing hard ware to daws while making music with friends who use only computer daws and didnt have standard midi cables. Found a work around my newer mpc can interface via usb with my friends that use cubase fruityloops logic and other daws. I do use pcs on my own to menu dive into my dx200 & deepmind, and .wav editors for sample manipulation beyond time slicing & stretching. Can be done on my mpc but i started making music with my friends using 2 casios a dx7 a free windows 3.0 .wav editor. That our bread and butter. We used that wave editor on loop mode heavily. Also we did play with some 90s era windows daws and this weird commodore sequencer/synth. But our bread and butter was chopping and screwing sounds then looping them through the windows wav editor a casio and actually menu diving and getting weird noises out of the dx7.lots of fighting too over the direction then me me playing off beat. we were dumb kids who didnt even know about snap and looking back we looping up weird polyrythms thatd go in and out of sync while playing synths over it. Uff. Then trying to getbit perfect over a 4 track tape player

[@johannjohann6523]

Thanks for the video, cool ya put it together. Industrial music doesn't get enough focus by media or other KZbin channels. To me, when done right it is the most moving and exciting music ever made. Dark. Giving you a chance to visit "the other side" and come back again. And started with KMFDM and Ministry in Germany and the U.S. at the same time - mid 80's. Kindred and also different spirits (KMFDM w/ 2 singers) half a world away from each other started it all and both still touring today. And when they get a song right like Ministry - Khyber Pass or Lies, or KMFDM - Kunst it's the best thing ever. (after sex) I don'T know if Carpenter Brut - Turbo Killer is quite industrial, but worth checking out because live he adds guitar & drums.

[@ericscorpse]

Great video! Now you need one discussing the samplers they used (kurzweil, ensoniq, akai, etc.)

[@Tonepusher]

That one is definitely on the list!! samplers had a HUGE influence on Industrial. Akai stuff is everywhere hehe

[@dbefore7165]

Yeah the kurz 2500 was used lots on TDS, specially for the wave shaping, and the Vsynth is a major part of skinny puppy’s sound, and one of the few old synths they still use at the heart of the setup

[@jamesdelrogers542]

I saw fronti 242 in the late nineties , With the pitchfort family They were using the roland jp 8000 a lot

[@Tonepusher]

nice! yeah the JP-8000 was used a lot, especially in the early 2000s

[@jamesdelrogers542]

@Tonepusher I shut down at the end of the nineties due to problems with the entertainment industry . It was like the nord one , J p 8000 or The first axis virus Maybe the korg prophecy . The very first version of the nord one were different , the 1.1 I know I had one I found it in a pawn shop After I lost my studio in a fire in chicago in 96 . If you opened up the tweekend Album By the crystal method The guy standing in thermal suit serving ice cream on the beach To the other two band members Is a picture of me photoshoped in . My name isn't anything , It's geopolitical Crap , And? Any excuse will do to put the screws to you when you're dealing with this industry I am related to some people in the world .

[@sytiravajous]

Surge XT vst is absolute beast for distorted industrial drones.

[@Tonepusher]

I never tried Surge XT, but a hear d a lot of good things about it.

[@nicholasfaith8999]

The only thing I don't currently own off the list is the Prophet VS and the microwave XT, I have to say though, I think you omitted three synths that should have been on this list, the Moog Minimoog D, SCI Pro-one, and the Korg MS20. The clavia Nord Lead and Korg Prophecy are on that list too.

[@Tonepusher]

I talked about them in other videos, although I never talked about the Minimoog though. I try to cover stuff that hasn't been talked about before. But you're right LOTS of Moog has been used like the Micromoog for exemple.

[@raymondrabillard3586]

Industrial is more a mind than anything other. You can use all synths.

[@Tonepusher]

Yes and no 🤔 You CAN make industrial with anything really. But some synths/gear have a texture in the sound, FXs, trademark effects etc...That'll make it much easier. Like the MS-20s filters for exemple or the imperfection of analog gear and even the ''lifeless'' digital sound of digital synths. Choosing the right gear to achieve the sound you have in your head is very important. However, it's true that the fun in making music (at least for me) is to take any synth and make it sound like you. Happy accidents etc. At the end of the day, anything can sound mean hehe It's how you use it.

[@raymondrabillard3586]

@@Tonepusher it's why we use pedals, and amps...

[@raymondrabillard3586]

@@Tonepusher basicly indus is punk stuff, rock and electro meetting in end of 70's. You do what you want but with a big finger a rise...

[@raymondrabillard3586]

@@Tonepusher I personally use a SERGE 17U * 126 hp.

[@AdAsteris]

Testure by Skinny Puppybon the ESQ1 emulation

[@Tonepusher]

my fav SP song! 🤘

[@kittavares4334]

Ozzy using the ARP xD "I forgot how to use the fukking thing", that's what I say everytime I open the damn VST. Apparently, Pogo used the JP8000 a lot too in the late 90s. Awesome video anyway!

[@Tonepusher]

LOLL yeah I had to put that Ozzy clip in there hehe I laugh every time hehe

[@Maschinestorm]

Anytime I see the 2600 mentioned I think of that time.

[@hajagosb]

Great video! I feel that the Access Virus should have made this list...

[@Tonepusher]

I talked about it in another video :) the virus is definitely a classic for industrial!! thanks man!

[@gaseki]

Thank you! That was fun.

[@Tonepusher]

thanks for commenting 🖤

[@4Fingr]

I sold my ‘Microwave XT’ Terratec PC-Card last year 🎉

[@Tonepusher]

wow haha I didn't even know it existed haha

[@4Fingr]

@@Tonepusher Terratec EWS64 XXL Microwave

[@thesidar]

The Xpander was a huge part of Reznor's early sound...

[@3082frank]

I was so focused on serum, that i totally forgot about all the cool sounds Arturia also has..hahahha...😊😊😅😅. Thanks to this video as a reminder..

[@Tonepusher]

haha well Serum can do it all ;D buuuut Arturia's putting out GREAT synths. Probably my fav company right now.

[@HardwiredDevil]

Awesome video! JP8000 /8080 is so damn good, would love to get an actual 8080 some day but prices are so crazy for them. It's a shame Roland never made their own VST of it like they did with everything else they made, but there are plenty of supersaw options now thankfully. SH-201 was it's hardware successor (then the two Gaias) and also used by quite a few industrial bands but has a bad reputation - unfairly so IMO.

[@Tonepusher]

yeah I often look at used JP8080s, prices are crazy hehe ngl I'd prefer the 8000 though. Looks better! haha

[@thedeepblueskys]

If I didn’t own the Arturia V collection, there would be an empty hole in my heart

[@Tonepusher]

haha 100%

[@Exercise-01]

That lil piece of music you did on the Waldorf sounded like Pride & Fall.

[@Tony-hu7uk]

Great video, would you be interested in covering the old school Synths from the 70s and early 80s?

[@Michel-r6m]

Seen Skinny Puppy & Front 242 live 😎

[@Tonepusher]

Yeah I've seen them both too. SP was my favorite by far hehe

[@Michel-r6m]

@@Tonepusher Seen them in Horst & Amsterdam NL and Aachen Germany.

[@Tonepusher]

@@Michel-r6m nice! I went to Amsterdam once, great city. I've seen them in Montréal Canada :)

[@nobuyoshikitano3305]

testure 😎

[@Tonepusher]

haha 🎉🎉 probably my favorite SP song, the vibe in that song is just perfect

[@iuliantataru4431]

Nice video !

[@Tonepusher]

thanks man :)) 🤘🏻

[@LAZ-org]

I saw cEvin Key had a Hydrasynth Explorer for the last tour. I need to track down someone's vid on a balcony above him to find out what he used it for!

[@Roemergruft]

The song on Minute 3:00 is Sterbehilfe by Suicide Commando

[@Tonepusher]

hell yeah, one of my fav SC song 🤘

[@xenostim]

sick band

[@koenvanlishout1106]

DAF - ARP 2600

[@olivierperez5414]

Sequential (Not Roland) Prophet VS. Great video ! Thank you

[@Tonepusher]

Damn, you're right lol Idk why I said Roland 😴😴😴

[@T0dK0n]

The Arturia ARP 2600 VST is aight. But it always annoyed me having to scroll around to patch. Korg just released a realllly slick and much better sounding vst of the 2600 in Korg Collection 5. All the parameters are on one single pane, the fx included are some of the best I’ve ever heard on any vst, and it even has a really amazing spring reverb haha. Anyway, worth checking out the demo at least.

[@Lds--alarm]

I love the sonicware liven 8bit warp ,,,,3 looper track,s + 1 looper track for external instruments

[@theodore8178]

Love nitzer ebb friends were more into nin. Im more into juke jit and funky technobass now. Still play drum pads and kejyboards live but i discovered that midi snap thing. But click sync goes back to click to the 1980s roland xox line.

[@Mythos91Tube]

I would Recommend Arturia's SQ-80 for Esoniq style tones, I think it can also read SQ-1 patches too.

[@Tonepusher]

oh yeah that's probably my favorite Ensoniq ever

[@theedxqboi]

The MWXT is Industrial as FUCK! You can deep dive into it, or just fiddle with the knobs. It does not disappoint!

[@Tonepusher]

That's a synth that I need to buy before it's too late. Essential!

[@LuisTorres-qz5kr]

Thank you!

[@Tonepusher]

thanks for commenting :) 🙏🏻

[@angelspitmusic]

You left out the EMAX. Not the EmulatorII...the EMAX.

[@theodore8178]

Vsts? I always got midi lag when incorporating hardware into computer workstations. Maybe thats not an issue anymore.i use mpc live as my workstation. I dx, 7 200, and volca fm. Beringher makes great clones of classic synths. Have deepmind 12 (juno clone) and started building a eurorack with a neutron and model d they stand alone and fit into the eurorack format if you want to build a synth on them cheeply. Korg volca perscussion is great so is behringer's 808 clone. Usually i just an mpc and the deepmind (juno clone). Sometimes my euro rack the waldorf string machine streichfet and fm synths. The pita with my eurorack set up is that i have to manually manually tune the oscillators turn them off, and the sound design is gone. The mpc comes in handy there as since you can create multi sampled virtual instruments on your mpc. But the eaurorack knob tweaking is gone. And need to get a bigger hard drive on my mpc. Im kind of at the point where i ahouldn't be buying any more synths or drum machines but replacing patch cables midi and audio cables as they go out. I should probably buy a digital mixer. Im using an analog mixer and its hard to get rid of the surface noise... want a talk box too. all those synths you mention are awesome. But really i could get by on my mpc, juno clone, & dx 200 7 or volca fm ran through the analog filters on cheap eurorack set up. Like playing the filters too.. if you set up your analog filters right they generate a sine wave you can play. . . Then casios are mostly toys but there are a couple cool ones i wish i hadnt given or thrown away.

[@Varonno]

I bought the Sequential Pro One instead. I have the Atari 1040Ste Skinny Puppy used at Subconscious Studios. And I have a second Atari 1040Ste. We used the Microwaves. I had an Ensoniq SQ-1, SQ-80 and EPS because Moev had one. I’m not sure whether Cevin still has the MASOS sampler from Ensoniq still- a Mirage. Those are the mid -eighties in Vancouver, BC, Canada

[@JaymieRoseHennegan]

I’m sorry, but how could you leave out the EMAX series? Everybody I knew playing industrial music was using the EMU EMAX

[@Tonepusher]

Because it's a sampler and I'll make a separate video about samplers :)

[@AdAsteris]

Gotta put the Akai S95 and S1000 in there so! And if ATR counts as industrial then the MPC 2000​XL. BTW, thanks for this, industrial producers appreciate the research, we've been reading FLA inlay notes and wanting a video like this for years @@Tonepusher

[@VuotoPneumaNN]

Of course you chose a version of Kinda I Want To in which the synth was inaudible lol

[@Tonepusher]

lol you can thank the KZbin algorithm for that one. EVERY NIN video of that song live gets a copyright strike. Had no choice. Sorry my man.

[@17deadbilly17]

J'adore ❤

[@larsnordstrom364]

Testure!

[@Tonepusher]

the best!

[@simoningate2056]

B2600 does the same for much less than Korg's but the Arturia VST is very good

[@Tonepusher]

ngl I love Behringer products too, I guess it all depends of what your budget is. But it's true that you could buy many B2600 for the price of one ''real'' 2600 haha

[@wildphilpresents]

the JP-8000 was one of my favorite synths that I want to forget now lol. It was such a great sounding synth but it was sooooo poorly built. Every show, we were having to re-solder the pots back to the board because they were not mounted to the case as well as the board, just to the board and had wiggle room in the plastic shell. The slightest bump and they'd break off the board. I ended up throwing my JP-8000 away in 2021 after having had enough of re-soldering the pots for the 400th time lol. Also, Suicide Commando doesn't just use them live, that is his sound. I've spoken with him in massive depth about it. That synth is 90% of the suicide commando's sound. He recently bought a Roland SH-201 which also has the Supersaw that makes his sound so infamous, but it's far too clean for his tastes and the filter, even though digital, sounds very different so he sticks to the JP-8000. The Prophet VS is such a unique and gorgeous sounding piece of hardware. The Prophet VS was used on PHM and Downward Spiral ssssooo heavily. Downward, most of it got resampled into the Emax II to muddy it up and give it a bit of an edge, as at the time Trent was OBSESSED with the Emax II and was sampling EVERYTHING through it to an almost annoying level according to Clouser. Problem with a VST version is you lose the Analog filter. What made the VS stand out from like the Yamaha SY-22 and other vector synths IS the analog filter. You had the classic curtis filter which was what truly gave it it's sound. If you sit down and program the same patch on a SY-22 (hard because of the waveforms to begin with, but can kinda of get close) they sound monumentally different. Same with the VST version. The VST is too crisp sounding compared to the vintage filter. Honestly, Behringer has been doing a great job with their clones and the VS clone is probably the closest any of us will get to the true Prophet VS sound without dropping $5k. ESQ-1

[@Tonepusher]

wow you had an ARP 2600 and sold it? shame on you!! haha 😜 I'm currently looking at buying the new ones Korg made 🤔 haha

[@amonster8mymother]

Wavestation does many VS payches.

[@cristianpallares7565]

Hey @tonepusher have you ever listened to Tactical sekt? I find it the best band in terms of sound design. Would love an in depth review ❤ if you ever need video ideas....

[@Tonepusher]

Of course, Syncope is a claaaaassic from the first to the last second haha I grew up listening to TS all the time. I shared the stage with them a couple times. Great memories, Anthony is a very nice guy.

[@Death_By_Media]

The SQ80V or SQ8L plugins are a much better alternative to the UVI as the they do the actual synthesis and not just a rompler like the UVI . The SQ80 was an upgraded ESQ1 essentially with same voice chip , filter , and amp , but more waveforms and bells and whistles that don’t apply in a plug-in form

[@Tonepusher]

yeah like I said in the video the same chip was used in the SQ80. Having this said, I know the SQ80 is a better synth all around. But this video was more about what they used at the time. I also use the SQ80 software a lot! One of my favorite actually hehe Also that synth looks incredible haha

[@Maschinestorm]

I wouldn't say UVI does 0 synthesis. You do get two oscs, lfo, modulation, amp, filters and an effects chain.

[@ventures_gowest]

I have a question for you (and maybe a future video...) what guitar is mostly used for metal indus and what effect will do the job, I am talking only about pedals, no emulation on computer. Also I have read that I need active guitar microphones, is it true or I can achieve that sharp sound (Rammstein and Ministry) with passive microphones on my guitar? What would be a cheap setup that will get me "THE" sound I am looking for please? Does the boss ML2 will do the job, or I need something else? Some people are talking about a Zoom GX1? Do you agree? I am very curious about getting your advices... All the best, please keep the good work going.🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@Maschinestorm]

Marshall stack and JCM800.

[@404-Tyxel]

thanks :)

[@masterchain3335]

Access Virus, SY77, and DX7 (among others) should have made this list.

[@Maschinestorm]

At least two of these are well documented.

[@docmcfly3933]

What's the name of the music that starts around 0:09? I've heard it all over the place and it always reminds me of the 2000's.

[@Tonepusher]

hey! it's an Adobe Stock copyright free track :) Ngl there's really good tracks in there haha

[@docmcfly3933]

@@Tonepusher Thanks man

[@klinikat5313]

There is also a Korg ARP 2600 plugin available......

[@Tonepusher]

I know, but I've been using Arturia's plugin for years.

[@inwex8350]

Do you know if the Prophet VS is the synth in happiness in slavery? I thought it was a DX7 at first because it sounds FM, but the Prophet almost seems closer to the sound. I had no idea it was emulated by Arturia now.

[@Tonepusher]

Yeah it's the Prophet VS! ''Only the keyboard solo that TR plays on "Happiness In Slavery" was triggering the actual synth that made that sound on the record (the Prophet VS)'' Charlie Clouser 🤘🤘

[@inwex8350]

@@Tonepusher ah haha! I had a good feeling you would have the answer. Thanks.

[@Maschinestorm]

There is an old video of this sound done exceptionally well on a ms2000.

[@AudioLomtik]

Roland Prophet VS? :)

[@Tonepusher]

lol yeah...My mistake 🤷🏻‍♂️ that's what happens when you don't take breaks 😂

[@eyesintheskies]

My first synth was an esq 1 bought purely because of skinny puppy, it broke a couple years ago & I really miss it 😢 Struggling to find anyone to fix it in the uk So if anyone can recommend anyone please do 🙏

[@Tonepusher]

yeah I heard ENSONIQ synths are a pain in the ass to fix

[@eyesintheskies]

@@Tonepusher quite possibly, there was one place that specialised in them but they said theyve stopped doing them. Parts are probably harder to source in the uk. My best bet is likely to cut my loses & get another. Just not sure ive got the heart to throw a synth in the bin🤦 😂

[@ianjohnson3546]

@1:33 Waldorf just released the Microwave 1 plugin, their software version of the Microwave XT. I'm guessing maybe you filmed this before the plugin came out?

[@Tonepusher]

Yeah unfortunately! but I HAVE to check out that plugin for sure. Will never replace the XT though haha

[@kcat80]

Is it a vst of xt or mw1? I assumed it was the latter?... There appears to be differences between the two versions of the hardware, xt was based upon mw2 afaik.

[@Tonepusher]

@@kcat80 yeah you're right, I just looked at the website and it's based on the MW1.

[@kcat80]

@@Tonepusher no probs, great video and some brilliant research into musicians using it thanks, your videos are more informative and fun than equipboard! mw1 waldorf plugin looks pretty good for what it is, the devs did a really in depth show and tell going over how they meticulously worked on it.

[@Tonepusher]

@@kcat80 yeah I tend to trust more the actual company that created the synth than emulations by plugin companies tbh. hehe

[@sierrawhiskey5144]

Unf, dat supersawed Suicide commando track... I remember when I had a JP-8080, I kept remaking a bunch of Suicide commando songs with it. Also, the SQ-80 plugin from arturia accepts all my old ESQ-1 patches since my MB on that synth is dead now. Best one to unleash in the studio. No love for the Behringer 2600?

[@squareglobeplus]

great

[@Tonepusher]

thanks :) 🙏🏻

[@jeffreystrathearn5082]

it's weird to see a video and be completely familiar with every single band and artist referenced in it. Granted i have been listening to electronic/industrial/ebm/whatever it is now since the mid 90s.

[@Tonepusher]

haha yeah well I thought that industrial needed some love on YT!

[@validcore]

NIN definitely used it... definitely on albums... definitely on the fragile..."the only song I can say we used it on was a guitar ran through it's filter on Into The Void". What?