A Borderlands MMO Is Most Likely Coming Soon - (Borderlands News)

[@LilGasmask]

I would give the game a shot but if it has excessive micro transactions, limited time items causing FOMO, or servers I have to wait for then I’m out sadly.

[@japplebarry5627]

Bro just described what every mmo does lol. I love borderlands but I'll call my shot now and say an mmo if ever released will get absolutely ripped apart online

[@JackDaniels-ct5wz]

@@japplebarry5627 what if gearbox and 2K did something right and made an MMO which does not do this but instead have an expanding skill tree + level cap with new chapters of content dropping in a form of the "life service game" (let me dream, okay xD) EDIT: I don't mind the transactions, btw.

[@TimRock1617]

*Shrek closing book* Like thats ever gonna happen. ​@@JackDaniels-ct5wz

[@cashbanooka5642]

Ah yes. BorderWatch.. Or would it be OverLands

[@massimoc799]

as long as all content is possible solo, i dont really mind. ive always appreciated how things like raid bosses/takedowns in borderlands are all possible solo

[@massimoc799]

it also means that when the game "dies" in terms of playerbase you can still reasonably play all the content provided

[@CHESTNUT246]

no thanks, tired of always online games where my ability to play is dependent on servers and my internet.i guess well have to see how well they do it.

[@EpicNNG]

BL3 and WL are both always online games purely for the fact that playing offline guts your game of hotfixes, which often rely on bug fixing and balance changes.

[@ginnosaji5577]

There is a difference between always being online and only requiring a quick handshake between device and server to get the said hotfixes. Borderlands mmo will become a digital paperweight the moment your connection is not up to the task or if/when the servers shut down for whatever reason, meanwhile you can still play Borderlands 3 even if you don't have the latest hotfixes. The two are not the same. Additionally, you can get the hotfixes while being connected to a network, and still keep them as long as the game is still open (e.g network goes down, you are on a handheld with shifty connection/sleep mode disconnects you).

[@UngovernableU]

​@@EpicNNG BL3 isn't always online?? All content is playable offline

[@kylekelly1919]

@@UngovernableU yes but if u play without an internet connection u are basically playing an outdated version because all the hotfixes are not implemented until you connect online

[@coolbreeze6207]

@@EpicNNGnot the same thing yes does the game require to be online for hot fixes yes. But I can still play the game if my internet goes out. With destiny or any other live service garbage no internet no game

[@zacharyjones1285]

Reminds me of what the watcher said at the end of the prequel where the watcher said "now's not the time for bickering vault hunters war is coming and you'll need all the vault hunters you can get.

[@killswitch8616]

I think they should keep making the same old style and an MMORPG

[@austintse5719]

As long as its not pay to win, pay to progress and paywalled content I'm ok with it. It also depends on whether the game is actually going to be fun to play and people actively playing it regularly. The content also has to be great and short content release times. Then I'm all in. I'm still waiting for the Borderlands 4 reveal. Hopefully they show up at Gamescom.

[@williamp6483]

can't wait for borderlands 76, where all of your weapons break after 100 shots and every character is even more one dimesional than tyreen

[@mikewhocheeseharry8066]

I’m scared after the Tina game bro 🥲

[@Timmzy27]

My issue with live service is the constant demand for my time to play it. If I’m not done with the previous content, then they add new stuff on top and I fall behind with no clear end date for the support in order to catch up, I simply don’t want to play it. Imagine trying to play EVERY update for Fortnite today having never played it, it’s not feasible so no point in trying

[@RipChordProductions]

*If i can still play the full game offline, then I'll consider it. If not, then forget it.*

[@TheOnlyPedroGameplays]

If the game isn’t open world and keeps in game areas separate in order to load instances and not have everyone with you at all times, and if it lets you play offline, then it would be a great experience. Imagine you and your buds or some strangers online in a pandora instance with a big map come and meet one another to join a 4-player team. You and your team can act the same as online co-op, and it means that almost everyone on a server can work as a team, work in groups, or work alone. The co-opetitive mechanics would go extremely hard in this game if it was a setting you could enable when you join the game. If it’s enabled, there’s a limited loot pool all across every respective map, and all players in a server can compete to get the most of it, and can fight one another for it if PVP is enabled

[@mauricefelix295]

If it's a mmo that is good and I know I will play it longer than I already did with the main games than I WILL BE A WHALE

[@lbgstzockt8493]

I don't hate live-service per se, what I do hate is predatory monetisation, battle passes, overpriced cosmetics, opaque currencies and a dead game two weeks after the last content releases.

[@planetned.]

It could be nice if it isnt going to be their main focus. Just a separate game thats it. I could see a possibility of a MMO as long as they dont make it pay2win. Only paying for cosmetics is enough. And dont make a crazy grind for something and payboxes to speed up the process. Just a simple MMO spin-off but the main focus should be borderlands loot&shooter style game. I would love to see a bl4 with a good story decent loot system Awesome dlc's. And more side games or events that are actually good. I also would love to see a classic borderlands type of game, something with the mechanics of bl1 or bl2 as a spinoff. Maybe not as a vault hunter but a different type of character in the game. But thats my opinion.

[@Boogsbunny13]

It doesn't matter what people like. It what makes the company/corp/big wigs money. I was typing as you said money money money @3:21 And sober me would never pay 42$ micros. Me after a beer and a joint: Ohhhhh shit bro! I gotta have that f4lk skinnnn

[@Borderlands808]

they need to make their investor(s) happy AND make them MONEY. MMO, always online is one way they hope to do it.

[@bspearel422]

I hope to go they stick the landing. This franchise is tailor made for a MMO game. Its surprising that the whole industry bhas essentially given Bungie free real estate for a decade. One of my biggest gripes about D2 is the aesthetic. If i could gwt me some D2 with a true open world and that borderland aesthetic, id give them all my money.

[@EpicNNG]

If they can pull it off, it'd be real fun

[@isaacmude4570]

I really think that the negative association with microtransactions comes with the assumption that means lootboxes. I'll spend money on something I know I'm getting, whether that comes in the form of a giant DLC or a new skin for my character, but I refuse to pay for the "opportunity" to win a prize. I would most likely end up buying and playing a Borderlands MMO, but I have to admit that half of the fun in playing a Borderlands game is finding new mods after playing vanilla to see what exciting new ideas another creator has put forth all this effort into creating. I've never played an MMO on PC, but it seems like the kind of thing you'd get banned for if you Gibbed your save file for example. Here's to hoping they do end up outsourcing, I already can't stand not being able to join a party of 2 or 3 people in current games! Cross-platform was such a great addition, I just wish it worked consistently.

[@holofractal0687]

I've speculated about this concept and suspected something like this might emerge for a long time. It just makes sense to me with the age of gaming we're in and how big the franchise and universe has become

[@Slaccoon]

im so on board with the MMO Live Service idea. Only issue i'd have would be the constant internet connection requirement. I play all BL games solo anyways, an internet requirement makes me think back to my days in boarding school where there was one little hotspot that hundrets of people all at once used. My 5kbps dataplan on phone was more reliable than this (that was in 2017-2022 might i add). Bad or even No internet is still a thing and i can imagine that many people just like me came to love borderlands because it allows for offline play. To me thats just an essential part to the BL experience even tho nowadays im a lot better situated in terms of connection and speed. Having it be playable offline, as in, letting it download every new content drop every month or two and then going back into steam offline mode, would certainly make me feel more confident in a BL MMO. I know this defeats the whole purpose of what MMO means, after all the O stands for Online and not Offline, but I honestly can't see an *actual* MMO work in the borderlands universe. Like, hundrets of people all at once everywhere seeing each other and sharing gear, throwing grenades, triggering their character abilities and all that... I just cant see that happening. Limiting map spaces to below 20 players sounds a lot more doable but when you're already limiting playernumbers then why not also make it playable solo and then even offline too, yknow? idk im just rambling, not even sure if anyone will read this. lol hey if you read this reply with "bazinga" that'd be funny. But ye anyways I really like the BL MMO Live Service idea but i would be concerned about the whole offline thing since its been one of mine and probably some other peoples key selling points for every BL game

[@snow15243]

Honestly, the only way it could work (without draining resources from the mainline games) is if they had another studio develop it, or just handle the post-launch support. Like how Bethesda had Zenimax Online Studios do Elder Scrolls Online, or how Bethesda has some other studios work on some of the newer content for Fallout 76 while they developed the main game.

[@liettdyved8633]

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised at all if we get a Borderlands games in the style of Destiny (kinda), plus I might actually be interested in that as long as the gameplay doesn't get affected by the microtransactions

[@_kita_1956]

waiting for a borderlands mmo since forever. always wanted to farm your gear and actually have that feeling of satisfaction when it drops. dont have that feeling in singeplayer since u can get savegames with everything on them. im tired of people modding and cheating their equipement, this wont happen in server sided online games. about microtransactions i dont care at all, at the end everything runs around money.

[@videomaniac6255]

For me, it depends on how its done. Im not opposed to the idea of an mmo. My hopes would be for it to be an mmo in the same way path of exile is an mmo, though id be fine with an extra focus on multiplayer being required for the hardest content.

[@Chumplunt]

The outsourcing argument to me is the naughty dog example. Would they have had to cancel their multiplayer game if they’d asked for help from an experienced studio earlier. We know Sony brought destiny folk in late in the game, but clearly too late.

[@MacaqueStinx]

Would be cool if they bought back that old chinese borderlands mmo

[@MrBX5]

BL2 had no microtransactions, it had DLCs. It's a technicality that Randy Pitchford has hidden behind before. For something to be a microtransaction it needs to either be already in game and you just pay to unlock or be some kind of consumable you pay for. The BL2 stuff were neither consumable nor stuff that was already in the game's files, it was extra stuff you'd download after buying, making it technically a DLC.

[@SkyeBerryJam]

Make it more MMO and less "Live service" and I'm fine. Destiny 2 already exists and its fanbase is miserable

[@Orionstar1111]

The MMO should be completely separate from BL4!!!

[@aquaticnub1399]

Personally, I’d rather have a borderlands game that is just continuously supported overtime with new updates and dlc instead of a mmo, like new raid bosses and community challenges/events are imo way cooler than some mmo that will probably have bad pvp, balancing, and even worse microtransactions

[@DrHugbees]

The reason i didn't play borderlands 3 much was because of the live service stuff, i just waited until that shit was done so i can play it whenever i want

[@DrHugbees]

And the MTX's for borderlands 2, I didn't buy them, I bought the complete edition when it came out on steam after playing it on PS3, ain't no fucking way this thing surviving on the mtx from the players.

[@HapppyMann]

buyable eridium, euuughhhh

[@axelthemexican]

I would play it I’ve always wanted one since borderlands online

[@Caspeaon]

I’m down as long as it doesn’t take resources away from a mainline BL4

[@ilikestamps2978]

If I can play solo and there's only cosmetic microtransactions then yes. It can't be full price though.

[@Gnomable]

The pieces are definitely all there for them to try it. I think it would struggle to find success but it would be cool to see.

[@riveracrobat8393]

Thank you for some of the things you brought up in this video. I also have faith in the franchise and believe it has a future. I’m still a fan regardless of anybody else’s opinions. I have criticisms of the franchise is well but it doesn’t change anything, I’m still going to get future games. I’m also still watching the movie and make my opinion after I see it as I haven’t been on the hate bandwagon. As for the MMO game it might actually be quite cool and interesting to see as it is completely separate and different from the mainline titles.

[@MonstersFlyinginTheSky]

but ultimately it comes down to the players because without the players there is no money to be made. They see that borderlands is a lucrative franchise so thats why they will try to milk it because the player/fan base is there to do so.

[@thegoldencrowbar6439]

I already know the game would have excesive daily and weekly missions, battle passes, limited time shop bundles and absolutely horrendous dependancy on online servers... miss me with that shit.

[@outlawz38]

If its fun, I'll play it. Simple. Hopefully there's still a bl4 and hopefully a ttw 2. I'll be even more happy.

[@MythofJoy]

Only game that can go toe to toe with destiny imo. They already got the brand recognition and they were the game to popularize looter shooters

[@enic_out]

They could use a the MMO as a precursor for BL4. I would just like to know how they will link the story from the Tales from the Borderlands, the MMO and BL4. Would be looking forward to a BL MMO, a format different from the previous titles.

[@n5lm]

this would be awesome

[@UnderTheHeavenz]

if they can make money like warframe without destroying the game with p2w and battlepasses ill play

[@MrBX5]

We seem to have different definitions of live-service. I wouldn't consider BL3 a live-service and even though I haven't played Wonderlands, from what I'm aware of it, I wouldn't consider it either. At most they had some live-service elements, but weren't live-service games.

[@MayYay22]

Hoping they do it good

[@SmolKattVT]

MTAs are a bit of a pain, but I wouldn't say detrimental, unless it's random loot box gacha/gamba style >.> but listen, if it's anything *remotely* like the scrapped borderlands mmo that's been floating around, lost ark, or ff14, I'm all in-- I love borderlands, and I especially love ff14, and I think a combination of the two would be sick as hell and really fun imho, provided they stick the landing ^^

[@mizuchi-6137]

I'd play it but only if it has VR support at launch or a week or 2 into it's life cycle with UEVR (unlikely because anti-cheat probably). So basically, 99.9% chance i won't be playing it at all

[@buffalowinggamer1]

Even though there'll almost certainly be microtransactions (which honestly as long I'm not rolling the dice for gear and itself purely cosmetic then I'm down for it) I think the potential for this to be at least decent is too high. I'll be there to try it. Also i can't complain about the microtransactions because I'm way too guilty of purchasing them so fine

[@Chumbaki_]

Bungie definitely have looked the good things in borderlands franchise to make destiny, maybe gearbox should look the strenghts of the destiny franchise as well. Obviously, ignoring the flaws that both franchises have.

[@ciary3688]

Man i just want a borderlands 2 two

[@t0aster_b4th]

I don't like microtransactions that allow someone with a big wallet to buy all the best gear immediately. For cosmetics and extra content? Sure, that's fine enough by me. A base game, then paid expansions down the road, absolutely. Pay to win and pay walls are what kill online games and mobile games imo

[@mirahgirl01]

I wouldn't play it again unless it was a mmo tbh! Love the art style its pretty timeless looking but it gets so boring playing solo tbh. Would be so cool to be at the hub and seeing everyones skins and weapons and interacting with the community and rhe workd feeling alive and not like im just running around by myself i can do that at my house lol!

[@Byrdman]

“I don’t want LS because I don’t want downtime or servers being taken down” yeah well go outside or play something else. Destiny as an example 95% of the time it’s a few hours and then you’re back up. This mentality of “I’ll ignore all the benefits to this because some downtime” is insane.

[@captainspaulding5963]

1000000% agree!!!

[@SARCASTIKKism]

I don't have problems with micro transactions but the mechanics for them need to be good. So no lootbox or gatcha. If they need to charge a service fee, fine.

[@anthonyshirley25]

I am also coming

[@EpicNNG]

we are liquid

[@anthonyshirley25]

@EpicNNG let me drink you then no doubt about it. Remaster bl2 for me please

[@KaelanSwan]

I'd much rather Borderlands focus on going even more offline and less live service.

[@martinivanov5617]

i want borderlands game like desteny

[@elishuster5943]

I personally have never cared about games having cosmetic microtransactions. I don't really care about cosmetics in gaming. If you do, that's great I have nothing against you for that but me personally, I just don't by them unless if its something like the Handome Collection where they throw them all in for like maybe $5 extra then ill get them

[@Noah-bv5sk]

Borderlands Battle Royale 2027

[@kota9087]

All I want is a bl4 that is a good game. I understand this isn't the most profitable thing.

[@Ungli2.0]

I’m actually a slut for live service stuff if it’s done well like Destiny and the Division so I could see this being a big hit for me tbh

[@RianFox]

my worry is if they do make an MMO, then release Bl4 then the MMO is gonna die almost instantly!

[@crimsonomega8310]

While the genre isn't my cup of tea, I hope they do it and it's great for those who do want it!

[@JackDaniels-ct5wz]

I think 16 player instances are very possible, just turn off effects of other players, no? Think about it, if you only saw the raw action skill e.g. siren grasp and not all the other effects and reduce them it should not be laggy at all, but maybe that is just me thinking too simple...

[@captainspaulding5963]

EPIC, SHHHHHH!! You can't point out that BL2 had microtransactions, or any flaws at all for that matter!! 😂

[@EpicNNG]

DAMN, MY BAD

[@TheNikolasC]

I would love one tbh , especially if it uses the characters we were going to have for that one in China or Korea I think? before it got canned

[@mapache_del_sur]

I hate MMO’s for the fact that I am not that good of a gamer, and other players that put hundreds of hours into the game will just whip my ass constantly.

[@kfc-employee1380]

Tbh, I doubt it would be PvP focused based the fact that Borderlands are good because of the PvE stuff. Still not sure how they would handle Open World without people fighting over loot/items/quests.

[@mapache_del_sur]

@@kfc-employee1380 that’s a good point and honestly something I hadn’t thought of. I am not much of a gamer but love Borderlands. I know I got my ass handed to me on Splatoon, but you’re right, that’s nothing like Borderlands.

[@mapache_del_sur]

@@kfc-employee1380 just hope they don’t find too many ways to make it competitive. I don’t like paying money to have to compete with these super gamers.

[@bobbyfordstudios]

Love Borderlands. Recently spun BL3 for another run. The tech issues, first time an issue over the years, are a disaster. Load screen times, Horrid. Errors (never happened before). Why a company would piss off a fiercely loyal BL2 and BL 3 audience is beyond me. They may love money, but such actions burns down their customer base.

[@internetperson8224]

Bl3 runs great on Xbox for me load times are >10 seconds usually… I will admit however the game has a memory leak and will crash every once in a while… things aren’t perfect.

[@bobbyfordstudios]

@@internetperson8224 ha! I would die for 10 second loads. I would literally kiss a psycho to get that load time! Ok, I so wouldn't do that, to be honest. 🤣My PS4 load times run between 2-4 minutes per load screen. I timed it. About 40% of the time, when I first log on, I get all the way to Play ... click it, and after the long load screen, it errors out and I have start over. About 10% of the time, I get two error screens back to back, so I don't get into the game until three attempts. None of my other games (Witcher 3 Enhanced, FFX14, Metal Gear 5, Diablo 4, etc ...) have any of these issues.

[@internetperson8224]

@@bobbyfordstudios dangggg, I’m on the Xbox series x, I heard the reason we didn’t get pearls in bl3 was that the xb1 and ps4 “couldn’t handle the extra color of loot beam” were r something, so that checks out :/

[@bobbyfordstudios]

@@internetperson8224 I forgot about the pearls! Not that far in this my third pass since the game first came out. Its an epic game. Tons of fun. Been leveling a Diablo 4 seasonal (ugh!) and BL3 is such a fresh breath of air. But yeah, the tech issues, no bueno. Not a good call, as I wrote, to put out a movie that could bring a lot of new players to the franchise (although the movie is apparently PG 13, so lots kiddos asking "Mommy, why does a psycho want to rip my $#^#^ face off?" Jkg! But, yeah. we'll see how the new owners handle what could be an long term epic title

[@TheTrueSavior]

Do it right and I’m happy

[@thebigbra2015]

I’m fed up with always online, live service money-time suckers, got fed up with fucking destiny after almost 10 years of playing, don’t get me wrong the final shape is good, but i don’t have infinite time everyday to farm for everything and them new things add up. So when you said that at 6:10, no, i won’t, and coming from destiny, fuck microtransactions, love it when a season has 1 new weapon model and the mtx store is filled to the brim with 10 bucks beautiful looking ornaments

[@Darkmattermonkey77]

So, instead of a BL4, they’re going mmo?

[@slippyslappy2678]

Cant wait to see other vault hunters running around helping me kill big enemies. I love destiny so this just gets me excited. People just have a hate boner for words..the only thing that worries me is weapon balance cause they suck at that.

[@captainspaulding5963]

But, you can already have other players help you kill things.....

[@beanboy887]

Holy FUCK just give us a normal fucking borderlands game!! 😭 Stop these spin offs and story games and MMO’s!!!

[@red5robb1]

ive been an MMO fan most of my life....but MMOs have been on the decline for YEARS. yea sure WoW and FF14 are super popular, GW2, SWTOR, ESO are still kicking....but every MMO that has came out in the last 10 years has been basically dead or shut down because they are trash. id be interesting in trying out a borderlands MMO, but i dont think it would last long

[@Weroleytor]

Didn't know you were a consoomer Personally I don't like MMOs so I'd have to pass, I just hope they don't take out resources from BL4 to make the MMO so both end up being bad/unfinished

[@thomastom2294]

yeah the first bl that i will not buy. wl also skipped after experience with bl3... sad

[@davis956]

They're only in it for the money? I do my job for free!

[@compostsmurf5519]

They won't be getting my money this time if this is the case

[@bahamut505ci]

No I won’t be playing a mmo if they release one, I wouldn’t mind a different style of live service borderlands. I don’t do mmo’s I don’t care what franchise it is. If the next game in the series isn’t good I think it will be very bad for gearbox. Bl3 sold well but the player base fell off fast, and wl was just hot garbage. I think gearbox has lost alot of the player bases trust at this point and they need to do better.

[@gj8622]

Live service bad usually

[@Rush-PZ]

bad idea

[@dennismcgonigal9691]

Yuck

[@19aidan]

it just came out my man

[@jeramiahleeper7492]

Micro transactions out the ass... get activision on there to help them out. Lol

[@malcomhater]

It could be awesome, but it's gearbox so I'm not getting my hopes up, good game bad company

[@brentbliss7075]

No no no no no

[@coolbreeze6207]

Hard pass

[@keynanmartinez]

Borderlands 4 should be SINGLE PLAYER ONLY!!!

[@captainspaulding5963]

No, it absolutely should not be. CoOp is a STAPLE option in the franchise

[@ashlyn.is.missing4656]

Absolutely not, multi-player is a fundamental part of these games. It would die so fast in the modern age of gaming.

[@d-o.o-b]

Hahahahaha nope.

[@cadeconnors9637]

I not want a mmo but I want a live service borderlands I mean 4 DLC is not enough that want I want not a live service I need to play it every day if not I will loose out if borderlands make a MMO and it 10/10 I take that

[@joshuacaithness8978]

It won’t be good did you forget what happened to wonderlands the fucking mod community took the game over and they can’t even come up with new stuff we don’t need another live service game that gearbox will screw up it’s that simple

[@joshuacaithness8978]

Also wonderlands was a complete disaster not a great example my guy

[@Byrdman]

How? The PLCs sure, but base game is amazing.

[@keynanmartinez]

It was great but I understand where you're coming from.

[@captainspaulding5963]

Story, gunplay and builds in Wonderlands are goddamn amazing

[@d-o.o-b]

Yep, ur whats wrong with gaming. We get the borderlands that we deserve.

[@jordankerr1]

wtf borderlands is going to absolute shit

[@jordankerr1]

So sad. It’s my favorite franchise of all time and all the decisions I hear are Ls. Please sell the IP 2k

[@Byrdman]

@@jordankerr1how? It’s simply in between games.

[@jordankerr1]

@@Byrdmanyou really think that? They arnt hiring a new team to work on something else on a franchise that isn’t making much money. They’re pulling devs but it’s fine I’ll always have bl2