A brief overview of Dalek pronouns

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@10thdoctor15
@10thdoctor15 9 ай бұрын
Dalek Sec was 'he' before evolving. "Scan him, prepare for birth"
@adamcousins5788
@adamcousins5788 9 ай бұрын
Fun fact there was a Dalek Supreme that was called she. Susan mendes had her mind transferred in a Kaled mutant.
@android65mar
@android65mar 9 ай бұрын
The Emperor also used the royal 'we' - "This is not part of our plan"
@codaboi138
@codaboi138 9 ай бұрын
I think the fact that Davros, being the creator of the Daleks, means that the Daleks use he/him as a pronoun is a great explanation as to why the Daleks do this. Having said that, I think "it" being the only pronoun the Daleks use just works much better, even for high ranking Daleks. I feel asthough the Daleks have become more and more "humanised" since their inception, most notably in RTD era where they literally are part human (which is still awesome and horrifying.) But since the Daleks are in desperate need of being actually creepy/frightening again, i think it would be great to see a take on the Daleks that is way more alien than they currently are. I think the original Dead planet story from the 60's nailed it, with their near monichromatic silver casings, the stilted emotionless chatter, the dull foggy white lense they see out of, not ever giving away what the evil little alien brain is thinking behind all that metal. They really were creepy. #makedaleksalienagain
@Wumpa_Goji
@Wumpa_Goji 9 ай бұрын
I also think the reason why Daleks are referred to with male pronouns is because at least in western society many people default to using male pronouns to refer to creatures with no given gender. Ive seen this phenomenon myself as a kaiju fan, kaiju who aren't stated to use either masculine or feminine pronouns and are referred to as 'it' in the movies tend to be referred to by masculine pronouns during discussions.
@TwoCentReview
@TwoCentReview 9 ай бұрын
When faced with the Cult of Skaro, The Doctor found it strange that there were Daleks with names rather than numbers. Daleks are mass produced to be hateful and unthinking, so it makes sense for non-named entities to not even have names, specific pronouns or distinctions. It stands to reason that Daleks could use “he/him” as a sort of title, that these individuals are important enough to have this distinction. Metaltron would still be called “it” because, even though he is believed to be the last of his kind, he was not created to have a unique distinction, so it is still “it”. Those are my thoughts, at least.
@paladinboyd1228
@paladinboyd1228 9 ай бұрын
Dalek pronouns are, the masters of Earth
@senabecool7232
@senabecool7232 9 ай бұрын
DALEK PRONOUNS ARE THE MASTERS OF EARTH
@paladinboyd1228
@paladinboyd1228 9 ай бұрын
@@senabecool7232 This dalek has a headache and does not want to shout lol
@phinnyouchoobs
@phinnyouchoobs 9 ай бұрын
the Time Strategist is a trans king and that's my main take-away and i support him wholeheartedly
@Master_Of_Machines
@Master_Of_Machines 9 ай бұрын
😂
@Nat20streak
@Nat20streak 9 ай бұрын
That is sccurate
@hyperion3145
@hyperion3145 9 ай бұрын
Changes genders and timelines
@triacontahedron
@triacontahedron 4 ай бұрын
Is it possible that Rusty is also trans, what with him using he/him?
@phinnyouchoobs
@phinnyouchoobs 4 ай бұрын
@@triacontahedron i'm not too sure about this, since it's the Doctor who refers to Rusty with those pronouns, as far as we know that's not of Rusty's own volition
@pikachucetthesecond4296
@pikachucetthesecond4296 9 ай бұрын
The Daleks have gone WOKE, they're using PRONOUNS!
@joking_oregon1
@joking_oregon1 6 ай бұрын
Its really funny to read that in my head with the Dalek voice
@HarryGotCooked1660
@HarryGotCooked1660 4 ай бұрын
I don’t think it’s like that…
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 4 ай бұрын
@@joking_oregon1 Interpreting this kind of writing with randomly capitalized words as a Dalek speaking makes way more sense.
@thelicensednerd1626
@thelicensednerd1626 9 ай бұрын
It's funny to think that when we were still in school, the word pronouns in English class didn't raise any eyebrows or roll any eyes.
@GiratinaofFury
@GiratinaofFury 9 ай бұрын
It's entirely possible that Daleks built their pronouns around rank or superiority, rather than on gender like we do. However, there is a case where pronouns or gendered language changes based on whether you refer to someone formally or informally. In German, for instance, prounouns change depending on the subject, with "er" being used for masculine nouns, "sie" for feminine nouns, and "es" for neutral nouns, but when referring to someone in a formal manner, the pronoun "Sie", which differs by being capitalised and using different suffixes for verbs, is used. Maybe, this is the same for the Daleks - subordinate units or drones use a different pronoun to higher ranking or superior units, which are referred to more formally. The TARDIS cannot always make a like for like translation, but it can provide a close approximation, thus subordinate units use "it", but higher ranking units use a different pronoun, which the TARDIS translates as "he".
@zacm.2342
@zacm.2342 4 ай бұрын
I'm a fan of the in-universe reason being (at least partially) the TARDIS' translation matrix just getting close-as
@Nibbles69
@Nibbles69 9 ай бұрын
The Destroy All Humans 2 soundtrack in the background 🐙👌
@zombiedalekweck2243
@zombiedalekweck2243 9 ай бұрын
The Dalek Time Strategists' original form called the Time Controller their husband.
@ryanmeakins2993
@ryanmeakins2993 9 ай бұрын
No one else made this pun that i could see from the quick scroll of the comments so ill make it "Cyberthem" Do with that what you will
@CyberController-
@CyberController- 9 ай бұрын
We approve of this comment.
@justanaveragegamer8735
@justanaveragegamer8735 9 ай бұрын
“Daleks have no concept of gender”
@dalekhybrid845
@dalekhybrid845 9 ай бұрын
ehem. I do
@dylbro1166
@dylbro1166 8 ай бұрын
“You have identified as Daleks.”
@dalekhybrid845
@dalekhybrid845 8 ай бұрын
@@dylbro1166 yes
@thecircleoft.e.d2121
@thecircleoft.e.d2121 Ай бұрын
“BUGGER! That was CLEVER!”
@wolfgangwilcox2323
@wolfgangwilcox2323 9 ай бұрын
Blue bumps and pronounce. But in all seriousness I doubt it’s anything that had any real thought put into it. Even when higher ranks are called “he” they’re also usually called by their rank where one would place a pronoun. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong but the majority of times a Dalek gets referred to with mammalian pronouns is from non-Dalek characters.
@davidspada6256
@davidspada6256 9 ай бұрын
same goes to JP dinosaurs
@jacobparry177
@jacobparry177 9 ай бұрын
People saw pronouns in the title and lost it without watching the video💀
@jamesgreep9344
@jamesgreep9344 9 ай бұрын
Of course you have a blue eyestalk and pronouns!
@paulo9991
@paulo9991 9 ай бұрын
Probably because of the rank and the Daleks have always sounded masculine whenever they speak.
@OuchMaster6000
@OuchMaster6000 9 ай бұрын
I always assumed they were similar to the sontarans: reproduce artificially but are all genetically male (as in they all have x/y chromosomes, even if they don't reproduce sexually or have genitals). They just don't make a big deal out of it or act sexist like the Sontarans do - to them all non-daleks are equally inferior, regardless of sex or gender.
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 4 ай бұрын
Well Daleks wouldn't have the same sex chromosomes as humans or even any at all. Plus if they did it would be extremely stupid to make them XY since that'd just make them more vulnerable to genetic diseases.
@AceManPlays0
@AceManPlays0 9 ай бұрын
I don’t think Daleks care tbh
@TheNickofTime
@TheNickofTime 9 ай бұрын
I think one big reason when a Dalek has any pronouns, it’s always he/him, is because of the voice. Daleks always use male voice actors, which despite the ring modulator, is evident to the audience and associates the Daleks with masculinity.
@NothingHereButMe
@NothingHereButMe 9 ай бұрын
If memory serves Dalek Oswin was refered to as she. Gender and identity are so ingraned in the show it seems odd that there's never been a real discussion about the implications of the *removal* of gender from those who (probably) have a strong gender association
@triacontahedron
@triacontahedron 4 ай бұрын
I love this comment
@SamhainRegen666
@SamhainRegen666 9 ай бұрын
let's face it the moment a Dalek gets called a she or her by a character in the show the internet will roar smh the only bit i disagree with you on is the Cybermen part as I've never seen it as declaring them a male species rather a shortened version of cyber-human
@6abbit
@6abbit 9 ай бұрын
Pronouns of the Daleks, the long awaited sequel to Eve
@Sparx632
@Sparx632 9 ай бұрын
I think it’s just the voice tbh, in the show Daleks have been voiced exclusively by men, who have voices traditionally associated with being male. So when we have nothing else to go off, since they’re just metallic pepper pots with one eyed octopuses inside we just default to he/him off voice alone. Thinking about it though, there is one exception, the Oswin Dalek, while the Dalek form is still Briggs we get that cut between Coleman and him which makes me associate the more human and soft tone of that Dalek with Oswin who uses she/her pronouns, so if I was to refer to her Dalek form I would probably use those pronouns for it.
@Solidsnakeprime501
@Solidsnakeprime501 9 ай бұрын
The section leader in planet of the Daleks is also he/him. Some examples of Daleks with She/Her pronouns would be the Supreme Dalek from Dalek Empire 3. Three of the Thal Daleks from brotherhood of the Daleks. And there is also a human female turned into a Dalek in Dalek universe 2 although i dont know if they did still call her She i cant remember. The Mentor from Dalek Empire 2 is also a She, being a female counterpart to Davros.
@idle_speculation
@idle_speculation 6 ай бұрын
I like to think that the dalek language has a different system of grammatical “gender“(that is, noun class, e.g. how erasers are male and computers are female in Spanish) based on something else like rank, and when speaking English default to “he” in the archaic manner of a generic singular pronoun, as it was once used and sometimes still is.
@nejdalej
@nejdalej 4 ай бұрын
Being female and Dalek is rebellious I suppose, almost contradictory. Daleks are supposed to have aggressive masculine qualities. They want ties to their creator Davros, even subconsciously. Even if a Dalek is actually female, she cannot show it. Maybe it's part of the reasons why one of my Dalek fictives, even before fusing with a female alter, considered herself female. I think an exploration of that in future episodes would be super interesting.
@RedRory19
@RedRory19 9 ай бұрын
Brilliant choice of music from DESTROY ALL HUMANS 2
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 4 ай бұрын
The other in Universe explanation is translation error. We know the Tardis just automatically translates everything and that the Daleks speak their own language. So the pronouns the Daleks themselves used are just being translated as he/him. I think one posibility is that the Daleks are actually using something like the royal/respectful they which is found in most Germanic languages other than English. In these languages when you use they as a single person pronoun it implies respect towards the person in question, especially if you use it to directly address them. This then just gets translated as he/him due to the Tardis understanding that sexism colors people's views of these things, even if that isn't as relevant anymore the Tardis might just be sticking to the original choice for consistency. Another posibility is that Dalek language lacks gendered pronouns entirely, which would make sense since Daleks clearly don't have gender, similar to Chinese. But the high ranking Daleks do use the same pronouns as Davros for the reason you outlined and those pronouns get translated as he/him, potentially because they did mean that in the Kahlid language but that meaning has been lost to time.
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 4 ай бұрын
@@hedgehog3180 that's an interesting idea, but it doesn't account for the fact that many of the individuals who speak with the Daleks and acknowledge their pronouns have never set foot in a TARDIS, like Mavic Chen or Mr Diagoras
@legobi_wan_kenobi
@legobi_wan_kenobi 3 ай бұрын
@@dalekbumps I said the same thing! it doesn't make any sense
@silverdaleks1
@silverdaleks1 9 ай бұрын
The nearest we've got to hearing a female dalek is in brotherhood of the daleks were we heard Thal women or Thal-leks talk with a ring modulator effect over their voices
@LCBK
@LCBK 7 ай бұрын
I want to see a female dalek
@royhay5741
@royhay5741 9 ай бұрын
Vehicles are referred to as females. As a warrior race, is makes sense to refer to Daleks as males because female humans weren't warriors. The word "man" in Cyberman is gender-neutral like man (Homo sapiens), which meant Homo sapiens before it meant adult male primate. Adult male humans used to be called weres, which is still in the word "werewolf."
@10thdoctor15
@10thdoctor15 9 ай бұрын
It also has an impact that all Daleks have been voiced by men. Even the Oswin Dalek.
@android65mar
@android65mar 9 ай бұрын
I'm wondering if the Dalek Supreme in the Big Finish audios Dalek Empire III could be an exception to this as that Dalek was voiced by Sarah Mowat and was meant to be a combination of a female protoganist- Susan Mendes with the Emperor Dalek consciousness
@BranchLineFrog
@BranchLineFrog 9 ай бұрын
How did they get away with making the time strategist of human origin? I thought they don't tolerate that sort of genetic impurity
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 9 ай бұрын
The Humanoid duplicate that the Time Strategist came from was apparently grown using the Time Controller's DNA... somehow. So the Daleks extracted the TC's DNA and extrapolated the Time Strategist from that
@DoctorJedi2742
@DoctorJedi2742 6 ай бұрын
he isn't exactly "human" in orgin but a replicant like the ones in revelation, and they were gearing up for the time war at the time and needed a replacement for the time controller after his failed coup, which is ironic, because the strategist tried the same thing later, so their usual scrupules went out of the window, as was common in a wartime footing, daleks are notorious hippocrites.
@MadMal2024
@MadMal2024 3 ай бұрын
Some Drones acquire a designation; and it is usually a numerical one; as revealed in the Comic book series. But they are never given a pronoun. just called Drone XXXX or whatever... Or just Drone. These daleks are just above worker drones; who are usually separated by what they do. maintenance; construction, repair etc. The Daleks are not averse to using Slaves instead of their own kind... and treat them with even less dignity. The actual Dalek mutants are themselves probably Asexual... and reproduce by budding or cloning... so are not really requiring a pronoun It or them may be one to use.
@nullstudios2989
@nullstudios2989 8 ай бұрын
My take on why (higher ranking) daleks are referred to using he/him pronouns is that they’re (usually) made out of Davros’ flesh, and therefore use the same pronouns as him.
@zarrg5611
@zarrg5611 9 ай бұрын
In a subconscious psychological sense Daleks are aggressive which might be seen as a male aspect and they also have a harsh voice and are somewhat phallic. A lore idea is that the Kaleds were culturally patriarchal, as opposed to the more egalitarian Thals - we see numerous high ranking female Thals abut I don't think there are any on-screen Kaled Women. This might be reflected in Dalek culture, the powerful figures are referred to as ‘He’.
@randomericthings7506
@randomericthings7506 9 ай бұрын
Cybermen could refer to human. Hu-man Cyber-man Also in the 60s the word mankind and man were essentially used as human kind. “Man will be reborn as Cyberman”, for example is referring to humanity as a whole. As for the Daleks, another possibility is the Daleks see the sexism of other races and when deciding to identify as a gender, choose the one deemed more superior in the eyes of primitive beings.
@kafelkan2884
@kafelkan2884 9 ай бұрын
Cyber"men" likely just refers to the species. Like hu"man" kind. "Cyber"netic hu"men".
@byron2FZ
@byron2FZ 9 ай бұрын
In the audio drama Spare Parts, the Mondasians use the -man suffix for any job or role. Doctor becomes Doctorman. Electrician is Electricman. I think even Nun is Sisterman.
@TheValeyard92
@TheValeyard92 9 ай бұрын
​@byron2FZ Which is a nice little world building touch, but I say with 99.99999999999999% certainty, not what Kit Pedlar had in mind when he named them 37 years prior to that audio.
@RealMagmaDash
@RealMagmaDash 9 ай бұрын
i think that in-universe it's possible that as well as being xenophobic, davros may have also been racist and sexist, it would explain why all daleks have the same voice and why high ranks are referred to as he, because davros purposefully bred them that way. could also possibly be an additional reason to why daleks despise impurity, but that's just a theory
@Comicbroe405
@Comicbroe405 9 ай бұрын
Omg Dalek Bumps has gone woke 😞 This is a joke ofc
@rspbgaming8147
@rspbgaming8147 9 ай бұрын
"Daleks have no concept of Pronouns..."
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 9 ай бұрын
Daleks definitely do have a concept of pronouns - the Cult members refer to Dalek Sec as 'him', for example
@rspbgaming8147
@rspbgaming8147 9 ай бұрын
@@dalekbumps I was more making a reference to the line "Daleks have no concept of elegance."
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 9 ай бұрын
​@@rspbgaming8147 yeah dw I got the reference, I was just clarifying
@luckystars1294
@luckystars1294 9 ай бұрын
Honestly a really interesting subject! I usually don't even notice pronoun usage for Daleks, but the one time I always notice it is in Evolution of the Daleks, where the two cult members talk in the sewers. It just always sticks out to me when they say things like "We were created to follow Definitely agree that there are parallels to Davros
@KitchenSinkSoup
@KitchenSinkSoup 9 ай бұрын
I do like the whole connection to Davros angle for a more in-universe explaination. I do also think that there's a very widely held general assumption that war is a sort of masculine thing (big men with big guns shooting different big men with big guns) so having your ultra fascist killer pepperpots use he/him makes a lot of sense from that angle, especially given the fact that irl fascist groups did, and still do, very much fetishise that specific ideal of warlike masculinity which the Daleks can represent.
@agent1485
@agent1485 5 ай бұрын
I mean, you don't win a war by sharing your feelings, or telling the enemy to stop it. And you better hope you have big men to hold those big guns, or else the war is lost... 😉
@KitchenSinkSoup
@KitchenSinkSoup 5 ай бұрын
@@agent1485 oh shush
@agent1485
@agent1485 5 ай бұрын
@@KitchenSinkSoup 😁
@lotsagold
@lotsagold 8 ай бұрын
i think the point you made about cybermen and darleks has something to do with masculinity being seen as the default with any variation of that seen as other. its pretty interesting feminist theory that i am not really smart enough to really recall though.
@chaossmith3864
@chaossmith3864 9 ай бұрын
You know something? Despite being mildly obsessed with... I mean interested in Dalek stuff I never thought about this. I just always defaulted to he with show Daleks. (Fan Daleks are a whole other kettle of fish, i know of at least one lady Dalek there, Dalek Doris.) Is is bad I kinda feel bad now? Because I do lol I should definitely know better.
@timecontroller8800
@timecontroller8800 9 ай бұрын
This is a really interesting topic to bring up and can be widely debated it may slightly depend on the writer and there intent. I do think part of the reason is to do with the daleks voice as it does sound a bit male like and we probably associate it with them. The argument can be brought up with cybermen aswell and that’s probably more a floor with some design elements like mainly with the cybus men as they do look the most mail tho other designs do evoke gender less creature like the invasion cybermen tomb ones, warriors and cyberiad cybermen
@cmbeadle2228
@cmbeadle2228 5 ай бұрын
the exception could be the Oswin-Dalek from asylum - do fans refer to that one as "her"? Presumably she views herself as female, given she has resisted the mental changes in the story.
@beejamjam
@beejamjam 9 ай бұрын
It's maybe not a direct and deliberate commentary on masculine stereotypes but it can very easily be interpreted that way. The Daleks are space fascists, and a key aspect of fascism is an extreme obsession with masculinity, so it makes a lot of sense. Also, the he/it thing seems to enforce an extreme version of our own gender binary; instead of male and female, you get male and worthless drone.
@beejamjam
@beejamjam 9 ай бұрын
This video is hilarious by the way I love it
@Miru_Man
@Miru_Man 8 ай бұрын
Why are there no gril daleks
@badwolf66
@badwolf66 9 ай бұрын
Doctor Who Season 3, Episode 7 Pronouns of The Daleks [PRE-TITLE SEQUENCE] Dalek: EXTERMINATE!! Human: Just before you exterminate me! I have a question! Dalek: Daleks do not answer questions of inferior lifeforms! Human: W...w...w..w....wait....my question is......What do you identify as? He/She/It? Dalek: I am a Dalek!! There will only ever be Dalek! Human: But are you He/She/It? Dalek: Pronouns are a humanoid concept, I am A Dalek and I shall forever be a Dalek, EXTERMINATE!!! *Human is Exterminated in pure screaming agony* [INTRO]
@Endermite645
@Endermite645 9 ай бұрын
I always thought they had different pronouns that are simply translated to he him dur to the doctor being normally male
@TheValeyard92
@TheValeyard92 9 ай бұрын
My headcanon is that masculine traits are genetically bolstered in Dalek mutants in order to make them more aggressive. In his Cybermen book, David Banks also offers a similar explanation for the overtly masculine traits (body shape, etc.) in the Cybermen, although there, it's more a case that - according to him - feminine characteristics were simply deemed unnecessary for the continuation of the Cyber-Race rather than overtly to make them more aggressive (also worth pointing out that, historically, "man" has referred to both the gender and the species, so "Cyberman" is really just "Cyberhuman.") That's kind of the reason for it out here in the real world too. Human Societies are typically patriarchal (that's just a statement, not an endorsement), so historically there is a tendency to default to the masculine, in languages that don't have gendered nouns, at least. Incidentally, we have had at least one female Dalek; the Susan Mendes/Dalek Supreme hybrid from Dalek Empire 3. However, only other people only refer to her by the feminine pronoun. She sticks to doing the typically Dalek thing of either speaking in the collective "we" or talking about "the Daleks" in third person.
@UwURainUwU
@UwURainUwU 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video. x
@GreaterGrievobeast55
@GreaterGrievobeast55 9 ай бұрын
Doctor companion: so what do you I identify as? Dalek: A threat, Next Question! When it comes to non Daleks at least I imagine it's mostly Folks trying the personify them and the Daleks Just playing along with it for smoother communication. I'm not sure what to make of it when Daleks use he/him pronouns though.
@unlimitedgamerworks6125
@unlimitedgamerworks6125 9 ай бұрын
Okay odd theory what about if as Daleks age they gain a sex? Like some kind of fish So like most start off as genderless and then evolve into males as they have asserted dominance over the sexless drones. As for the lack of female expression perhaps if Daleks are born sexless, are basically grown rather than born, maybe they simply lost XX gens. Would explain why we never see Daleks breeding
@InsaneDWTheories
@InsaneDWTheories 4 ай бұрын
I can't imagine that Daleks have a concept of gender that in any way matches up with our own. I think that the Tardis is doing its best to translate words for characters who live in a society obsessed with gender, to the point that we even gender boats with she/her pronouns. How does the Tardis make judgement calls for how to translate all this alien stuff into stuff we understand? It must be a difficult task. And it clearly has fun with it too as it sometimes outright refuses to translate a word (usually in historical episodes) or even the entire dialogue of a character (such as the pope, lmao). Like, given that the Tardis, as pointed out by Bill, does lip sync with its translation, we know that it has control over what we see too. So just as almost every monster in Doctor Who is given a male or female gender, so too does almost every monster have a weirdly humanoid form. I reckon the Tardis is changing the appearance of the aliens to our eyes so that we can understand them, and likewise it does a similar thing with colonial Western ideas of gender being a binary of male and female, by squeezing aliens into that gender binary despite that being sheer nonsense. I'm sure the Tardis is translating what we look like and the gender stuff we use to alien terms. I highly suspect that aliens don't even use gendered pronouns and the very idea is so alien to them that it would be an impossible job for the Tardis to translate our gendered pronouns for them.
@InsaneDWTheories
@InsaneDWTheories 4 ай бұрын
like, I bet that Daleks don't have eyes that look ANYTHING like human eyes. They won't have brain anything like human brains. They will be so so so much more alien than we see of them. The tardis is showing us a more familiar humanesque depiction of the daleks coz we NEED that to understand them. They probably don't look like squids. They might not even look like pepper pots. They probably don't have plungers or whisks. These are all changes to make them more familiar and understandable. Who knows what lovecraftian monstrocities they truly are.
@legobi_wan_kenobi
@legobi_wan_kenobi 3 ай бұрын
​@@InsaneDWTheories what about characters who never travelled in a TARDIS, like Diagoras or Mavic Chen?
@InsaneDWTheories
@InsaneDWTheories 3 ай бұрын
@@legobi_wan_kenobi what about them? I'm not sure what you're asking?
@legobi_wan_kenobi
@legobi_wan_kenobi 3 ай бұрын
@@InsaneDWTheories you said that the TARDIS is the one that adds pronouns to Dalek language, and that it's changing the look of the Daleks to look more Humanesque, but that would only work for people who have travelled in a TARDIS. there are lots of examples in Doctor Who of characters who speak to Daleks and acknowledge aspects of their design and language who have never been anywhere near a TARDIS. Mavic Chen is a notable example because all the scenes of him talking to Daleks take place far from the events of the narrative, so it can't be the TARDIS
@InsaneDWTheories
@InsaneDWTheories 3 ай бұрын
@@legobi_wan_kenobi yeh these are good points... I kinda just assume that in the future, some sort of automated translation thing not dissimilar to what the Tardis does is available to pretty much everyone in the future.
@somberdoc
@somberdoc 9 ай бұрын
i wonder if the pathweb making all daleks interconnected could have caused them to see their own gender as meaning less for the lower ranks
@10thdoctor15
@10thdoctor15 9 ай бұрын
I think other species refer to the Daleks as 'it', except for individuals like Sec. Daleks seem to call each other 'he', or by name or rank.
@capinsgwiggs
@capinsgwiggs 3 ай бұрын
sort of similar to how people perceive "whiteness" as being raceless, or American accents as being accentless, being male is widely subconsciously conflated with being genderless. These presumptions are created in large part to disregard the authenticity of adjacent minorities. Daleks being the embodiment of fascistic ideals, makes this a really interesting lenses to view the daleks through.
@rogerkeleshian2215
@rogerkeleshian2215 3 ай бұрын
Nobody says that at all.
@capinsgwiggs
@capinsgwiggs 3 ай бұрын
@@rogerkeleshian2215 people don't exactly say what the believe (god if only). But you don't exactly spend your day to day looking out for implications of these sentiments. As it turns out, if you truly believe those sentiments you aren't exactly going scream them from the rooftops. People who assume this stuff assume it's understood truth, why would they overtly state it?
@rogerkeleshian2215
@rogerkeleshian2215 3 ай бұрын
@@capinsgwiggs How the hell is the "American accent" accent less? To foreigners & anyone in the anglosphrere, our dialect is made VERY apparent. Also, how the hell are males treated as genderless??? In most cultures on earth there are very specific criteria that define men & male behaviors.
@capinsgwiggs
@capinsgwiggs 3 ай бұрын
@@rogerkeleshian2215 I'm talking far far far more about a general-western cishet white conservative view
@rogerkeleshian2215
@rogerkeleshian2215 3 ай бұрын
@capinsgwiggs I'm apart of the west & I've never heard conservatives with such bizarre sentiments, or anyone for that matter.
@DarkRavenProductions
@DarkRavenProductions 8 ай бұрын
Daleks are gender neutral as they don’t require two sex’s to reproduce but given their male sounding voices it is appropriate to refer to them as he or him the only dalek that sounded female was the dalek supreme in dalek empire 3
@emperordalek102
@emperordalek102 9 ай бұрын
this will blow many naysayers minds when they find out that daleks have pronouns. its almost hilarious that they have been calling the show "woke" when it always has been. brilliant video bumps
@whatislife7363
@whatislife7363 9 ай бұрын
I mean Cybermen as in cyber + mankind. Also knowing Davros he would likely only have picked stereotypical male traits eg. aggression. because their is no sexual reproduction going on(do not want know what that would look like) their isn't any need for sex or gender at all, but because Davros made the daleks from a sexually dimorphic species AKA the Kaleds. Davros would have picked the most aggressive ones which would be male.
@Kybarg31
@Kybarg31 6 ай бұрын
No, I just think a species as advantage as the Daleks wouldn't be bothered getting caught up in such frivolity.
@10thdoctor15
@10thdoctor15 9 ай бұрын
Cybermen aren't 'men' in the masculine sense. 'Man' means human (race), they just added the cybernetics. The same logic could be used for the Daleks.
@59rlmccormack
@59rlmccormack 9 ай бұрын
Pronouns don’t mean much for Daleks. They’re mutants, and they’re just machines, tools of destruction. Their pronouns have no meaning. -James M
@tenacious3911
@tenacious3911 24 күн бұрын
Biologically, Daleks seem to be androgynous, and as such the question of gender is rather a moot point. My suspicion is that use of "he" to describe high-ranking Daleks is some sort of linguistic leftover from the Kaleds, akin to military officers being addressed as "sir" in English.
@stuff31
@stuff31 9 ай бұрын
Can't believe the Daleks went woke, smh 😔 I personally think the Daleks defaulting to he/him is just force of habit from the writers and doesn't have any deeper meaning. However, Daleks are based on the Nazis, and their armies were essentially bred to an idealised standard of Ubermensch with very buff, masculine forms that did not in any way result in the birth of modern American fitness culture. The Daleks are, similarly, very bulky and stereotypically brutish creatures like that seen in propaganda for the SS. As such, they tend to be perceived as masculine. I do think a female-identifying Dalek could be interesting, though. I'm sure Steven Moffat would love to write a big, powerful, hot lady Dalek that w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶t̶e̶p̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶h̶i̶m̶ subverts the typically masculine nature of the Daleks.
@shadowmaster8684
@shadowmaster8684 9 ай бұрын
This video would have been perfect for Pride month
@alexbruckshaw1448
@alexbruckshaw1448 9 ай бұрын
Literally "Genders? In this economy?"
@BluBerryVA
@BluBerryVA 9 ай бұрын
Daleks are woke?!?!
@hirathemedicbird523
@hirathemedicbird523 9 ай бұрын
i can't believe the daleks have blue cases and pronouns smh my head
@thomasgrove2724
@thomasgrove2724 9 ай бұрын
The Time Strategist has a blue casing and pronouns
@henlomelon7313
@henlomelon7313 6 ай бұрын
Metaltron really self-destructed because he was trans. UwU
@darlig.ulv.bakhjerne
@darlig.ulv.bakhjerne 6 ай бұрын
You didn't watch the video, did you? Just saw the word 'pronoun' and got triggered, regardless of the context 😂
@henlomelon7313
@henlomelon7313 6 ай бұрын
@@darlig.ulv.bakhjerne Y U INVALIDATING METALTRON, BIGOT!? ÙMÚ
@FactionParadox2090
@FactionParadox2090 9 ай бұрын
Daleks are peak toxic masculinity-
@grahamturner1290
@grahamturner1290 9 ай бұрын
🐙
@TimeForTeletubbiesFAN
@TimeForTeletubbiesFAN 9 ай бұрын
Doctor Woke! Dw just joking 🤣
@swag-a-dellaman6555
@swag-a-dellaman6555 9 ай бұрын
Why do you always obsess over Daleks?
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 9 ай бұрын
I am Dalek Bumps. It is my purpose to discuss the lore of the Daleks
@swag-a-dellaman6555
@swag-a-dellaman6555 9 ай бұрын
@@dalekbumps So you're a Dalek fan?
@CyberController-
@CyberController- 9 ай бұрын
It's Dalek Bumps, not Cyber Handles
@swag-a-dellaman6555
@swag-a-dellaman6555 9 ай бұрын
@@CyberController- I'll take that a yes.
@monkeyatanofficedesk9253
@monkeyatanofficedesk9253 8 ай бұрын
it's literally a channel dedicated to the daleks
@IllusivePrime
@IllusivePrime 9 ай бұрын
I can understand that they would be called IT as the Dalek race has a extremley large ammount of Daleks so they can have females so it makes it easier to just call them IT. Would like to see more female-Daleks but I don't want this pronoun thing to be taken out of proportion and heavily political like the show has been for years but I'm not holding my breath.
@c0nvict_pleb174
@c0nvict_pleb174 9 ай бұрын
He finally did it, Dalek bumps becomes woke 😂
@LukeDalli29
@LukeDalli29 9 ай бұрын
“Pronouns of the Daleks” sounds like the worst dalek story ever! 😂
@Ellismead2602
@Ellismead2602 9 ай бұрын
Do we need to discuss something that's so ridiculous.!!??
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 9 ай бұрын
How is it ridiculous? Some Daleks are referred to as 'it', some are referred to as 'he' - and that's the point we're discussing today. How is that ridiculous?
@CyberController-
@CyberController- 9 ай бұрын
It's an interesting topic that explores Daleks individuality and how other cultures have rubbed off on them.
@TheGameTunes
@TheGameTunes 9 ай бұрын
Davros doesn't 'identify' as male, he is male.
@xXSwaghetti.YoloneseXx-uf2bb
@xXSwaghetti.YoloneseXx-uf2bb 9 ай бұрын
Both
@sharpfury77
@sharpfury77 9 ай бұрын
DALEKS HAVE NO USES FOR PRONOUNS !! DALEKS ARE SUPREME !!!!
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 9 ай бұрын
So why are the highest-ranking Daleks referred to using he/him pronouns, even by other Daleks? 🤔
@TheValeyard92
@TheValeyard92 9 ай бұрын
I mean, their second best-known catchphrase is "I obey."
@sharpfury77
@sharpfury77 9 ай бұрын
@@dalekbumps how do you know they are, seeing as either the daleks and the tardis are translating them to English where language is gendered
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 9 ай бұрын
@@sharpfury77 it can't be the TARDIS translating them, because other characters who have never been in the TARDIS can understand them perfectly
@sharpfury77
@sharpfury77 9 ай бұрын
@@dalekbumps yeah the daleks and or the tardis. Sometimes daleks are translating themselves to English Sometimes the tardis is translating the daleks to the rest of the tardis crew
@adamali1976
@adamali1976 9 ай бұрын
This is BS man
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 9 ай бұрын
How so?
@countryofiremany3912
@countryofiremany3912 9 ай бұрын
Really… 🤦‍♂️
@therevenger259
@therevenger259 9 ай бұрын
Dalek pronouns? Someone has clearly run out of ideas.
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 9 ай бұрын
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