A butoh documentary: Kamaitachi in the snow [FULL]

[@zzzxx1474]

A Beautifully gentle but dark and direct documentary, thank you for putting it on KZbin. There doesn't seem to be much about Butoh in English here. I could easily watch this as a series, its like an art meditation

[@sothisispermanence1898]

What I've gathered from this, is that Butoh was originated from Hijikata's vision of his father coming in from the rice fields. So Butoh is his father. Butoh is the human form succumbing to the hardships of life. It's so beautiful and expressive and painful. I love this documentary! The gracious students are welcoming him in to learn, to express his own "human experience." That was heartwarming. So fascinated by this art form.

[@fredwood1490]

What I saw in Butoh was what I saw as a small child, watching other small children, learning how to use our bodies, how to use our minds, or imaginations, trying to conform to the "real world" adults lived in. There was so much to learn, but so much of what we thought, of what we tried to do, was things that adults never did! Adults would call that "Silly" or "Pointless" or "CHILDISH"! So many of the motions I see Butoh dancers do, I remember doing and seeing done, honestly and without the pretentiousness of so many Western modern, avantgarde dances. As honestly as those children, long ago. I struggle to explain why I like the Butoh, there are few words that can say what it's like to be a small child discovering their bodies and their minds, but I think that image is the one I enjoy.

[@laconja1]

When the woman came on stage behind him She has such A POWERFUL PRESENCE LIKE SHE WAS PUSHING THE AIR AMAZING!!!

[@afonsosarmento6194]

what a beaultiful and also sensible doc, the butoh is pure sensibility

[@carlosguillermo566]

Great documentary. I felt connected to Melvin's journey into this mysterious art. Mysterious yet very intimate.

[@japanontology]

Yes! What is Butoh? We need more of these documentaries! Great work!

[@lillakaputa5935]

Very very good documentary. Thank you.

[@martinaverena3877]

"Extension of the self"... That is so well expressed. I loved watching the deep integrity of this dance and how it highlights everybodies individuality. Very powerfull...***

[@souvstudio]

Passionnant et remarquablement monté! Merci pour cette immersion et ces images soignees!

[@melvincoppalle17]

Merci à vous !

[@Zetazatapop]

fascinante!! gracias por compatirlo!

[@matiasn.b.8036]

Extrasensorial. Arte puro. Fascinante.

[@comunidaddelcorderoteatro599]

I really like the approach. Thanks for that. Greetings from Chile xo

[@nataliascuzarello2986]

It's amazing, thanks for this documentary !!!!!!!!!!!! :)

[@beezee7280]

I love this so much

[@BellaBella-jw9ef]

I love how keen he is!

[@sothisispermanence1898]

Fascinating🖤🖤🖤

[@catalinadgallagher50]

Love it I start my butoh tnx!

[@호그와트n수생]

WHY I COULD NOT DANCE BUTOH? YES, Indeed I totally agree him. Actually, World-wide Contemporary dance including Ballet is so much western dance. It prevails everywhere, so we even don't notice that all of dance came from western. His word made me think a lot, especially about my identity of dance. As long as we dances Ballet or some kind of contemporary dance, it's the same point that we are dancing French who dances Butoh.

[@melvincoppalle17]

Thank you for you'r comment ! Melvin Coppalle

[@matty6878]

Takashi of Keio University! so weird to see him loosened up like this.

[@mamoodygzn]

so lucky , very beautiful and strong

[@therasaarul5260]

Really a soulful dedication .....he's wonderful 😍 Love from india .....U finally made it man😉😉😉😘✌👌👏

[@HIRO2021]

Thank you very much!!!!

[@melvincoppalle17]

Thank you very much ! :) Melvin Coppalle

[@mushimarufujieda6439]

一瞬ですが、僕がメキシコでやったワークショップとパフォーマンス時の写真が使われててびっくりしました。

[@Galvorn11]

This is real life anime.

[@laconja1]

When he was dancing in the middle of the street know one even stop to watch not even for a minute :(

[@melvincoppalle17]

That was a part of what we wanted to express... In some way !

[@BacaOConnell]

@@melvincoppalle17 yeah, i thought is was a beautiful shot, and the constant movement around the dance made it a lot more beautiful, just my opinion, but i loved it!!

[@andrewwwmmorg]

It's a pedestrian crossing after all. No one wants to stand around in the street until the lights change

[@enfolded_light]

the performance from 35:00 to 45:00..... the only adjective that I have for it is "beautiful"

[@melvincoppalle17]

Thank you !

[@FaniKatsiki]

I still don't understand butoh, but the documentary helped a bit. Also, does anyone know where I could find the music we heard in the documentary??? In the credits it said: music by "tableau 8", "red circle" & "trailer izanami", but a youtube search yielded no results... :(

[@melvincoppalle17]

Hi FaniKatsiki. The music come from a talented compositor which name is Maxime Corblin (Oxy in KZbin). Unfortunatly, those sounds are not yet published but we are working on it ! Thank you very much for you'r comment ! Melvin Coppalle

[@FaniKatsiki]

@@melvincoppalle17 thank you so much for your answer! Our kinesiology teacher in our drama school wants us to explore different kinds of movements and we had to do some research on butoh. It was so chaotic, and yet such an interesting form of art in so many levels! I really admire all of you who do this! Again, thank you for the documentary and the information in your comments. 😊

[@melvincoppalle17]

@@FaniKatsiki Thank you FaniKatsiki. Maybe the most important thing in butoh is to stop to think, and just feel the movement inside you. I think that butoh is propably a dance which invoke some ancien memorys of your past, to feel your present and exploring your futur. You have to think about that when you dance, I believe that's could be a good start ! Greetings from France !

[@FaniKatsiki]

@@melvincoppalle17 thanks so much! Greetings from Greece! 😊

[@sothisispermanence1898]

It seems like it's supposed to be so organic, yet it also feels like many movements are contrived. Like he's trying to incorporate some Kabuki gestures, but please, no offense, they seem rehearsed and forced. It seems to me Butoh is so elemental and raw. I LOVE his form! It just feels rehersed. It's feels he's trying to conjure someone else's experience, not necessarily his own. And I feel like Butoh should be very much your own expression... Is that how it's supposed to go?

[@natyg.c9910]

La danza del alma que grita llora sufre y el cuerpo muestra los movimientos del alma ya que está no se puede ver

[@mads1097]

Butoh has been described as something specific to Japanese people and Japanese society. This was made very clear by the creator of this art form, Tatsumi Hijikata. The root of it is based in a purely Japanese identity. Therefore it's appropriative and downright disrespectful to be trying to "find the meaning of Butoh" when you are a white person. It is fine to have an interest and to admire it, but you cannot insert yourself into it correctly as a white person. You are white, not Japanese. Since the very root of Butoh is Japanese identity, there isn't any way for you to truly perform or discover the meaning of Butoh, because your identity is not Japanese.

[@melvincoppalle17]

Hello Mads, Thank you for your comment. I understand your opinion even if I must say that I find it quite reductive. It's really not a question of "white people" or "japanese identity" I have to say - as Kobayashi Saga say during this documentary (30:22 to 31:54). It must be understood that butoh was created precisely in the middle of a period when Japanese people were questioning their identity and I would say that butoh was also created because of culturals exchanges. Hijikata Tatsumi was inspired by Mary Wigman, or George Bataille, Antonin Artaud, ... I think this is why butoh is (and should be always) somethings universal, for every one. Moreover, if art no longer breaks boundaries, what will do ? Artists of my generation are inspired and full of cultural hybridization, and it would be really sad to think that because we are not native to the concerned culture we can never prove it or try to understand it. Butoh teach us to forget borders... And start to think about what is the meaning of human being. I think the most important is to move towards universality (and not compartmentalization) that makes art so important in this world. Sincerely, Melvin Coppalle

[@shadowbody]

Butoh is not for only Japanese. Speak to any butoh guide about it and see for yourself. “Study by yourself. Then make your own revolution. This is butoh.” - Yoshito Ohno

[@laurabertsch-slauson6259]

Marilyn Manson should look into this😂

[@MishimaToshiro]

I agree that body aestethics play a big role on certain dance styles, I was studying in Bali where people´s body is not that big, they are tanned etc when I saw tall foreigners dancing even their techniques were ok, there was always something not fitting there. Enviroment, time, culture, space etc are the ingredients for a dance style to born but yes styles also can be imitated or post developed after being defined

[@imiaelmanz5227]

j'crois que ce mec, m'aime au moins bien.

[@imiaelmanz5227]

Yo moi du passé, tu gères, a plus

[@algarciar725]

this french guy you can tell he’s really really trying… anyways

[@sdmyisrael3689]

The French guy is wrong. B. is for JP and ballet is for Europeans, as each is deeply rooted in each culture. When my 20 yrs older friend, a ballet enthusiast took me to again another of her must watch 20 ballets at the famous top opera house...and that time a JP main prima ballerina was dancing, my friend freaked OUT. She said..wth, ballet is all about the body esthetics, and so tiny JP with those short legs, it just does not FIT, the long upper body and short lower legs below the knee. I was surprised to hear that...she was so upset, and me the first time I saw a JP primaBallerina in midst of all European dancers and this was ages ago when the legs were short..and my friend had a point. Now eat more meat milk calcium and sit different so body may change for JP but then she had a point. AND same applies to B. Same with B., only a JP can feel that wabisabi whatever you may call it. IF a Westerner grew up from zero in JP, say adopted by JP parents then even if long legs maybe I can watch it, but pls stick to your own talents and roots. we all can dabble in Rap, Tango, Balinese dance whichever..but fact is the real stuff can be executed only but the original cultures. We are not all one. Thats a commie dream to say so, that we are all the same, that each one can do all, we are not and that diversity makes the world beautiful. JP for B and NO, other look like clowns ifs they try.

[@melvincoppalle17]

Thank you for your commentary ! You're right about a thing : I was wrong. During all the first part of the documentary, I find myself very haughty and this is not really easy to watch. But the second part of this wonderful documentary show how you can start with some opinions... And change, because of the experience of the living. About butoh, I think, you should ear what Kobayashi Saga said during the documentary : "it's about ancients memorys of the body". Nothing else. 30:22 to 31:54 You are speaking about the body esthetics, and i'm not sure this is a good way to approach butoh. Butoh wanted to destroy this absolute vision of technical in dance. Butoh dancers are probably searching for somethings deeper. This is why i'm affraid that it is complicated to compare with ballet... ! Maybe you could compare with Kabuki and No theater... But again, i'm not sure this a good thing to "compare" arts and artists everytime. At last, I would say that butoh was also created because of culturals exchanges. Hijikata Tatsumi was inspired by Mary Wigman, or George Bataille, Antonin Artaud, ... I think this is why butoh is (and should be always) somethings universal, for every one. Butoh teach us to forget borders... And start to think about what is the meaning of human being. Yours faithfully, "The French guy" (Melvin Coppalle)

[@JamesTAbernathy]

@@melvincoppalle17 Melvin, I love your response. It takes a humble heart to transcend one's cultural upbringing. Dance belongs to no one nationality. If there were more like you, willing to learn from other cultures, imagine what a different world we'd have! Merci beaucoup.

[@deannecastle4913]

evil and satanic

[@fluidstatic5564]

Judging what you don't comprehend is a fearful and small way to live. Life encompasses beauty and ugliness, the harsh and the gentle. Living isn't full unless one learns to lean into it. If your god created everything, then they created art through all of us, and butoh is a part of that. I'm sorry you feel afraid of things so fundamental. May you be happy. May you be whole. May you be free from suffering. 🤍