The Intersection of Science and Meaning | Dr. Brian Greene | EP 486

[@lailaknight6620]

Oh my God, Brian Greene, as guest ! Two people so dear to my heart! Two people who shaped my perspective of the world. Such a treat!

[@fletchergull4825]

Big agree

[@beatsbysam-e3253]

These are my some of my favorite types of podcasts!! And just in time for the drive home from work

[@thermalrain_yt9725]

Same here! Just got home. Now hopefully I don't forget about it like I usually do

[@mommaboombam3764]

Followed Dr Greene for few years. Nice to see science and psychology coming together. Fantastic

[@sharonrogers6541]

Spelled psychology. Thank you.❤😂🎉😅

[@pauliewalsh6875]

Do you believe I spelt 'unessecary oneupmanship' correctly? ​@sharonrogers6541

[@mommaboombam3764]

@@sharonrogers6541 ty for the correction

[@odmorzadomorza]

hard time IT produces

[@EelInggard]

Thank you so much, Dr. Peterson, for being a light in the darkness for us all.

[@LackeysVinyls]

Didn't think I'd see J.B. Peterson discussing quantum mechanichs but hyped to see it

[@vicp7124]

He did a joint interview with Roger Penrose earlier this year.

[@storyahee]

Roger Penrose and JP is one of my all time favorite. I totally get what Sir Roger claiming about why understanding is non-computational.

[@Bethany-Natasha]

this video’s take really clicks with some of the things I've been reading in the book Magnetic Aura from Borlest

[@rocketproductions1441]

These are two of the most articulate teachers on Earth, gaining insight through their respective fields, for free in front of all of us. I LOVE IT

[@rezadaneshi]

I'm 73. I have been a particle physics enthusiast for 40+ years. String theory was invented from the work of Gabriele Veneziano in 1968 as he was researching for his Dissertation and run into a 200 year old math book with a function written over 200 years ago by Euler, called the Gamma function that looked a lot like our existing theory's formulation for strong force. Fast forward, I have followed professor Green for over 30 years, but didn't become prisoner to string theory. I know nothing at all compare to Bryan green and Dr Susskind's math ... but it all came to a sudden stop in my know nothing brain when I concluded there are no singularities and I can forever tell you why and how... no quantum gravity and 40 years of funding renewed every ten years with a side note promise to give them 10 more years of funding and they'll prove there is a graviton. Respectfully and thank you for reading. I admire Bryan Greene 💜

[@Javed6129]

As a nobody, I also agree there are no singularities, since if there were they wouldn't be having this discussion. The only singularity I understand is God, he is the singular - the One, the eternal, the absolute. God bless you, such a great insightful comment - thank you!

[@rezadaneshi]

@@Javed6129 You're very kind. Thank you and since no good deed shall go unpunished, I suggest causality places change as an emergent of entropy, and entropy as an emergent of time. Maybe whatever we embody in the meaning of time, can not stop but it can dilate infinitely and that's enough time for it to break through perfect symmetry and Big Bang; bringing about entropy to take the universe to its infinite complexity and back towards perfect symmetry in a multi cyclic universe. We need nothing but time to create a multi cyclic finite universe. However if the universe is infinite, it didn't even need time and time becomes an emergent of an infinite universe. All heartfelt expressions of universe in all forms are of the living god, but not the end, since we still have time in our future to find more reasons to thank god.

[@bronxcheer5985]

​@@rezadaneshi They have Done the Calculations and the Big Crunch is Debunked. As the Universe is Expanding and shaped Like A Donut, Krispey Kreme i think, the Question Begged; What is the Universe expanding in??😇

[@rezadaneshi]

@@bronxcheer5985No one knows. I like relativity because it fits with what I think I know. Every unit of spacetime is made of an enlarging/shrinking ruler working with a slowing/ speeding clock in a seesaw that together total that unit of spacetime. If space grows, time slows down because of gravity associated with that additional mass and vise versus. So, only if universe is finite, it's space is growing with time into infinite space which is named infinitely packed because it's filled with massless charge less dimension less particles that become waves when exposed to time, and astronomically grow in size and get electrical charge, spin and momentum; and god particle (Higgs boson) gives them mass. New spacetime captured by unstoppable time from unclaimed immovable space. It's one possibly fun way of looking at constructive physics with a mindscope. (Einstein's thought experiment) It's a mental simulation without any paradoxes. Yet Sorry, 😇

[@walterp773]

So if I divide something/0, that is a mathematical singularity but because there’s nothing that can assemble 0 in the physical world, there’s no singularity?

[@jennifermommy9373]

Noice!!!!! Love that Brian Green is intelligent enough to see that Jordan isnt the monster the woke claim him to be and was able to come on the podcast and have a wonderful conversation

[@Kataleya-q8m]

What did they say?

[@zimzob]

I’ve never seen someone so vilified for things he’s never said nor done as much as Jordan Peterson has been.

[@paulmichaelfreedman8334]

@@zimzob I know of some others, in particular Elon Musk. The lies about him are rampant.

[@alenaadamkova5322]

Intelligence isnt highest value, but highest virtue is the attitude, the willingness. He has the wiillingness, open mind etc.

[@adamthemyth]

Unlike Neil deGrasse Tyson.

[@MrHugemoth]

I want another "Elegant Universe" TV series with updated science.

[@cahlendavidson2921]

Oh my God you finally had one of my favorite physicists on! Been waiting for years! ❤❤❤

[@lauraquigley6403]

Love this man! Nothing like two intelligent people talking TRUTH 🙏🙏🙏Blessing’s

[@zeenkosis]

Here for Jordan’s blazer 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@TheGavameck]

When I woke up today, I really hoped to find something entertaining to watch, but I didn't have high hopes. Then I saw Dr. Brian Greene and Dr. Peterson in the same photo. I couldn't believe it. KZbin didn't have to go that hard😂.

[@itsgalf]

I just finished watching Tenet for the first time and now this comes up in the feed. Excited to watch

[@kensears5099]

You inspired me to this meditation, which I posted on my Facebook page today: Where is time? To me that's a more interesting, even efficient, question than the more common "What is time?" I'm in a kitchen right now. It's a space, an environment, an enclosure. I can stand at the sink, oven or fridge, or sit at the table and have my morning tea, but in all these spots I'm still enclosed by the kitchen, I'm *in* it. The kitchen is neatly defined by its four walls, so that I'm either in it or outside it. You might say that everything I do in the kitchen is happening "in kitchen," just like we say that absolutely everything that happens anywhere in the universe is happening "in time." But where *is* this thing called time? I know where the kitchen is, but where's the Time-room everything's supposed to be happening inside of? How is it enclosing us? Has anybody ever observed its walls, put them under a microscope? Maybe changed the wallpaper? 😏 Has anybody photographed it from the inside and out? It seems to me, not. What if there is no such room? Which is not to suggest that Time doesn't exist. Just that it's not the sort of enclosure-space we imagine. Perhaps it's not even remotely a place *in which* things happen, move, change, develop while the place itself statically remains an enclosure... like a kitchen. "Space-time" is famously recognized as the dimension that makes our 3D universe actually a 4D one. Isn't that an interesting term, space-time? The way that physics tantalizingly unites the two notions without committing to either their identity or distinction? The term is more a question than a definition, isn't it, i.e., what are space and time and how are they inextricable from each other yet different? Definitions have a way of revealing how much we don't know as much as what we do. In that vein it's telling how we use space to define (extrapolate, metaphorize) time. How long does it take for me to move the tip of my index finger from one ear to the other? Well, let's measure it--go get a watch. Okay, go. I'm moving my finger now a-a-and, stop! Ah, it took four seconds. But what are four seconds? Four seconds are the distance (space) covered by the watch's second hand. You may in fact, precisely as logically say that the second hand's movement was timed by my hand as vice versa. How long does it take for a second hand to move across four second marks on a watch face? Let's time it--go. Okay, I'm moving my finger from one ear toward the other--stop. It takes that long. Both are the same thing, the movement of an object between two points. One we arbitrarilty call "motion" and the other "time," when really both are just motion. Or... both are just time. By an arbitrary calibration of distance and speed, i.e., distance covered by the hands of a clock at a certain speed across a field of marks, we've standardized this phenomenon of distance and velocity as Time, or at least the closest thing to an "enclosure" as we can dream up. So that now we find ourselves "within" the space of one hour as opposed to the next. Moreover we extrapolate this sense of enclosure and objectify it as a Time-room,--say, a tunnel or corridor--inside which everything that ever happens happens. Yet, stil, nobody has ever seen the room. All we SEE is distance, velocity, motion, change, development. I have a compelling sense the room isn't there at all. What we call Time is indeed the combined manifestation of distance, velocity, motion, development, change. At root, Time is change. Change doesn't happen "in time," rather change spawns time. No change, no Time. What time is ever measured, anywhere ever, in isolation from motion/change? So what, then, are you really measuring? Which is why a watch is the perfect metaphor, since we look at the motion and change going on there and name it Time: "Oh, look at the time! I have no time! It's time to go!" Which is subtly humorous, isn't it: because nothing is happening there that we humans haven't rigged to happen by our own devices, this prosaic, rudimentary turning of gears compelling a tiny metal bar to rotate. Yet we gaze at this creation of our hands (*on* our hands 😏) and it's a kind of hierarch--if not a god itself then summoning us to the altar of a Power transcending yet enclosing us in a merciless, frequently suffocating embrace: Time. And we hop at its bark...even though we programmed it to bark at us. 😄 We've objectified the combined phenomenon of motion, distance, speed and development into a thing, a place, greater than the sum of its parts. But maybe the parts really are just "parts," not a place enclosing them. Perhaps "Time" isn't the "unknown god" conferring on the parts their ultimate instantiation. Perhaps the "unknown god" is Another. "Time" isn't our environment. Our environment is Another. "For in him we live and move and have our being...." "He is before all things, and in him all things hold together...." "...sustaining all things by his powerful word...."

[@Venator1230]

Thank you both for the invigorating conversation, thank you Daily Wire for hosting.

[@GengarOP]

Brian Greene yes! Have him on again, this was great

[@connorkokora3014]

Watching Dr. Peterson recall the contents of the conversation is a perfect example of someone recalling the contents of a conversation.

[@shaolin89]

Brian Greene is one of the smartest people currently alive. So hyped to watch this one.

[@dimitriosfromgreece4227]

Love ❤️

[@tkwu2180]

lol. Not at all. Live him, great communicator but a million miles from the top in his field. Bless.

[@robertcapetola3986]

he’s smart, but nowhere near the raw IQ of Ed Witten or Eric Weinstein

[@pdx5744]

@@robertcapetola3986 so what about Roger Penrose?

[@pdx5744]

@@robertcapetola3986 Also who are your top 10 smartest people across all intellectual fields? In no specific order.

[@KirbyTheKirb]

Yay Brian Greene, love him glad seeing him on the podcast.

[@LisaAntonelli-bz7ly]

This is the first time I've been exposed to Dr. Green. I found this conversation very interesting and edifying. I came to the same conclusion about determinism years ago but when I try to explain it to others I often fail. I'll refer people to this video in the future. However, I do think it's silly to look to particle physics and quantum mechanics for answers about human behavior. There may be parallels but I think that's due to the biological constraints of human understanding. We do not have a limitless ability to conceptualize (in my opinion) so we try to impose the same paradigms on very different phenomena.

[@JoshWiniberg]

I haven't seen this yet so I don't know what they discussed, but there are some pretty big implications due to quantum physics when looking at behaviour and philosophy of thought and decision making. The first thing that comes to mind being that determinism is pretty much ruled out by quantum uncertainty. That, at least, narrows down the options available in the free-will debate. It's still possible to argue there's no free will, but it becomes much harder to argue for determinism specifically.

[@matthewchrist9082]

I agree. Humans tend to try to overlay their own experiences and knowledge of things to unknown or undiscovered things. The origin of the universe, to which a lot of people assume it must have been made by a creator (which I personally do not believe nor disavow, as there is no way to really know at this point.) another is aliens, many assume they would look or behave similarly to us but most likely that would not be the case. For instance a bowl of jelly might be intelligent life somewhere in the universe. It’s all fascinating to ponder

[@V3NOMOUS22]

Brian Greene is perhaps the greatest intellectual mind of our time. I absolutely admire this man to the highest degree imaginable.

[@sierramaestra4998]

Finally someone educating JP

[@skywalkergreen9012]

Dr. Peterson, please invite Dr. Eric Weinstein on your podcast soon. Thanks for all of the free videos you provide. I have learned so much from them. 1:50

[@אליאלבן-דן]

Eric is very interesting.

[@gsutherland3614]

that was one of my first thoughts first too! esp following his recent, very compelling, interview in which he discussed string theory

[@marcc16]

Should watch professor Dave’s recent video debunking those two brothers nonsense

[@pomtubes1205]

​@@marcc16the duality of petersons audiences

[@Gallowglass7]

Eric is flawed but also extremely important. I'd love to see a long podcast between the two.

[@djknox2]

I am not a renown physicist, but have a solid science education. My opinion is that we have no clue about the true nature of light, time or the origins of space-time. To say that a single photon behaves like a wave because of it's quantum probability distribution is just mathematical gymnastics to explain a reality we can't seem to grasp. I'm not saying quantum mechanics is wrong per se, but rather that quantum mechanics is an attempt to explain something we simply don't understand.

[@andrew148]

We're 3 dimensional beings attempting to explain multidimensional systems and processes. Sadly I think it's very likely that we'll never be able to understand them, even if we could develop AI and quantum computing to a level which it could.

[@tear728]

Also not a physicist, but am an engineer with CS background. This is a reason I don't buy into many-worlds/multiverse hypothesis. Seems strange to interpret every point-mass of likelihood in a probability distribution as being correspondent to a different universe. Seems like a mathematical artifact to me - maybe that's why they decided to go with the Copenhagen interpretation. Why not interpret all probability distributions like that now? 😅

[@odmorzadomorza]

Sir Penrose just admit: QM is wrong

[@zombiejeannie6738]

I’m on wife’s account my name is Mike I agree with you as this is a big stretch I think this one gets disproven in few hundred yrs😂

[@ravenptl]

Nice, love Brian Greene.

[@GeraldBaltimore-s1s]

Centuries from now Historians will use this as an example of one of the greatest comedy teams of the 21st Century, Peterson deftly setting up every punch line and Greene delivering with stone cold resolve. For right now a fantastic conversation between two of the smartest men alive.

[@autumnleaves2766]

Well, it was all above my head of course but Dr Peterson asked good questions and Dr Greene is an engaging speaker. I've always felt that there must have been something there before the big bang. Something does not come out of nothing.

[@walterp773]

I’m afraid it’s been demonstrated that particles do spring out of the nothingness. Similarly they also disappear.

[@afringedgentian5426]

Now this. THIS is catnip for this science fiction reader and writer! I don’t understand it, but I love trying to understand and grapple with concepts just beyond my grasp, and I think it is very good for me to do that. “String theory” makes me smile because of the many associations I have with favorite science fiction books. My own work is very heavy on interpersonal relationships and how the dynamics of living, working, and serving together in space affect those relationships. But it’s good to have a background of some scientific understanding, as well.

[@AurielArizola]

This gave me chills. I started taking care for my maternal grandmother, well I take turns with my step dad and mom, and one thing I've realized is that she likes to make us suffer consciously and when it no longer works, she feels like she has no life, as if her life is to make others suffer. I'm not perfect, and after awhile I meditated on my granny's situation, I realized that I grew up wanting to make my ex girls suffer, but now I feel conscious of what I was doing immaturely and what I'm not supposed to do because like they say: "Life is a restaurant and everybody's going to pay before the exist."

[@leonardhenry6753]

Loved to see Dr. Greene gradually embracing the observer’s points of view.

[@KevinsDisobedience]

Im glad to see Greene has a sane pov on freewill. Always amazed when scientists come out as compatabilists.

[@MartinBrunoSar]

Love Brian, love Jordan. This will be a treat

[@mandingo1979]

Dr. Peterson, Your work has always been about exploring the depths of human consciousness, chaos, and order. You’ve brought so many of us face to face with the archetypes and structures that define our inner worlds. But now, I believe you're on the verge of something even greater-something that ties psychology and quantum mechanics together in ways that go beyond anything we've yet considered. Think about this: What if the feminine archetype isn’t just about chaos and nurturing, but about quantum potentiality? The feminine, in its truest form, may represent the quantum wave function-the infinite possibilities before reality collapses into one outcome. And what if the masculine archetype is the observer in quantum mechanics, collapsing that wave of potential into a singular reality? Your exploration of chaos and order may not just be about psychology, but about the quantum nature of existence itself. The recursive loops you speak about-what if they are fractal, repeating not just in the mind, but in the structure of the universe, from quantum particles to galaxies? Consciousness itself may be the ultimate observer, shaping reality through the act of observation. I challenge you to ask this: Have you truly stepped out of Plato’s Cave yet? What was the first thought the man in the cave had, the thought that made him turn around and seek the light? Are we still just seeing shadows, or is it time to question everything we know-even our role as the observer? I believe your next insight will come from connecting psychology and quantum physics-bridging the gap between human consciousness and the fundamental nature of reality. You’ve come this far, but there’s another step. And I think you already know what it is. Have you had your original thought yet? Or are we still chasing the shadows on the wall? You’ve brought us to the edge. Now it’s time to step out. Let's dig deeper man... There's more.. I see something in your work... What is it? Hit me up... I may have some insight on your shadow..

[@slother93]

I’ve been a fan of these two for as long as each has been in the public eye. I’m pleasantly impressed with Dr. Peterson’s understanding of the subject and his excellent questions. I have no doubt that one day soon the subjects of cognition, consciousness, and quantum mechanics will interact at a technical level.

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

Great dialogue very good on Brian stepping out and about like this.

[@giabaovlogs5452]

Praise God. This is my Fall 2024 for this Word. Amen .❤

[@masonghafghazi6112]

Thanks for letting the guest speak

[@paulmichaelfreedman8334]

37:00 First time I've heard him say "Oh that's so cool" and it was about cosmology. That's so cool!

[@streglof]

Great podcast! Would love to see a conversation between JBP and Jim Al-Khalili as well!

[@amertlich]

There’s a fascinating tension between consciousness and entropy here. The suggestion that conscious agents-especially embodied ones-resist entropy (to some degree) while alive is accurate from a biological perspective. Your body is in a constant state of maintaining order, resisting the natural tendency toward decay and disorder. This aligns with the idea that consciousness plays a role in this preservation of order. When a conscious agent leaves the body (i.e., death), entropy fully takes over, leading to physical decay. The notion that consciousness ultimately governs the body, even if much of it operates on an autonomic level, reflects a view of humans as more than just their physical processes. From this perspective, consciousness is the organizing force, even if we’re not fully aware of all the ways it operates.

[@metamiz]

51:50

[@GlitchInTheSkatricks]

I love this reflection. Very well articulated as well. Thank you for sharing 🙏

[@matthewkelso3280]

That return to a state of nothingness when a person dies and the severing of that connection is enough of an idea to wake me up in a cold sweat. The entropy to the point of not being able to overcome completely to the world of consciousness that says, we're still here.

[@TheBlackPS3er]

​@matthewkelso3280 god knew you before you were in the womb.

[@matthewkelso3280]

@@TheBlackPS3er Amen.

[@Dreoilin]

These topics are what should be being discussed with our youth.

[@ianyoung6706]

I’m not sure we need string theory for quantum entanglement. At least I haven’t heard that position before.

[@matthewhodgkins7571]

Great podcast! Thank you

[@NicolashBarbosa]

this format really suits me

[@NightsideOfParadise]

Dude. This interview just sits here on the internet. At the cost of couple commercial breaks. All the cultural decay aside what a wonderful time to be alive.

[@zahighobeira]

Brian Greene and JBP in one episode? That's wild, even a dream come true.

[@TalkingwithNari]

Very interesting and insightful convo, cool seeing the connection of physics to psychology

[@benjamin9779]

On the analogy between entropy and what Jordan Peterson sees as emotions linked to increased possible paths to get to an objective, funnily enough, I think if you model it mathematically, both come to counting the number of events that can lead to a macro state or the objective, depending on the context. Modeling this as a random variable, we are getting the measure of the events corresponding to the objective. So while I agree with Brian that physics is stripped down of any psychology, I do tend to think that a similar mathematic underlying concept can be used to model both (in some sense, the fact that we define a macroscopic temperature as the particular macro state we are interested in could seem as arbitrary as defining a human goal and ways to achieve it as the state of interest. Funnily enough, this makes me think of category theory, where is letters and arrows follow the same rules, whether their particular instances might be totally different, a lot of their properties and interactions will be the same, as per the corresponding category

[@enochkambangukalimbwe8099]

I just finished reading 12 rules for life. And Buddhism is that connection between science and belief. (In my opinion) I'd like to enroll in your school ❤

[@dalelerette206]

I suspect there are 4 Dimensional Leidenfrost layers that emanate in Triune Balance between Past, Present and Future. But the three time frequencies are then integrated along 7 frequencies. ❤

[@joshsims7286]

Thanks Jordan

[@mayatrash]

I'm a theoretical physicist. And I have to say: I despise nothing more than modern particle physics and string theory (and yes I studied both at some point). So many bad concepts, unintuitive and physically questionable reasonings. I love Greene, but string theory deserves all the criticism it can get. The same is true for most beyond SM physics (I.e. the utterly stupid idea of a graviton). Jonathan Oppenheims new approach is way better and I believe it will pan out at least at parts. Doing quantum mechanics in closed systems is after the invention of the density matrix and the von Neumann eq. a weird way to do quantum mechanics either way. A true theory of nature has to be thermodynamic, statistical and messy. Everything else is wishful thinking. And introducing metric fluctuations like Oppenheim does it, to fully equalize the Einstein equation, namely the Stress Tensor on the operator level with the fluctuating Geometry, has to be the easiest, smartest and funnily most obvious idea in recent decades of theoretical physics.

[@valentinmalinov8424]

I am not a theoretical physicist and I have a few questions. How these "proven" theories works? Why we accepting that the Universe is coming out from "Nothing"?... If Gravity is not a Force, why we have Gravitons? If "We" understand the Physical Attraction mechanism why we have "Gluons'? How "Gluons" explaining attraction of Two Magnets? If Gravity do not exist why we have "Gravitational Field"? and if Space is "Just a Vacuum" how we have a 'Gravitational Waves? If Space not have Physical property now Space is forcing Jupiter to circle the Sun? (By force, or "by assumption"?) How "WE" can construct fundamental theory without understanding of the fundamental elements? like - Space, Time, Energy, Field, Polarity, Attraction, Electromagnetism...?

[@ungoyboy2006]

Good lecturer to have in Peterson academy

[@comedyriff5231]

The debate around free will is fundamentally flawed, especially when people claim, "You don’t have free will." But what exactly does "you" refer to here? Are we to believe that subconscious processes aren’t part of you? This notion is not only reductive but also ignores the fact that subconscious actions are often shaped by years of conscious effort and decision-making. The idea that "you" and your conscious self are separate borders on a form of dualism that is more at home in religious thought than in modern science. In reality, you are an integrated being - a complex system where the conscious and subconscious, body and brain, continuously interact. Your conscious mind directly influences subconscious behaviors, from learning a new skill to forming habits. To dismiss free will simply because some decisions originate subconsciously ignores this dynamic relationship. The argument that subconscious processes undermine free will oversimplifies human cognition. Rather than viewing the subconscious as something external to your identity, it should be seen as part of the self, influenced by and built upon conscious choices. The fact that these processes occur without constant conscious awareness doesn’t mean they aren’t "yours." Instead, it reflects how the conscious and subconscious aspects of you collaborate to guide behavior. The free will discussion is trivial, it will lead nowhere.

[@samromeo559]

The fact of the subconscious is not an argument against free will. With all due respect, if you think that is the basis for the argument against free will, you need to do more research.

[@tear728]

Yep I always think this is a funny semantic argument.. if the prefrontal cortex and basal ganglia work together to select next actions on a subconscious level, that's still YOU making a selection.

[@tear728]

​@@samromeo559 it's the basis of Sam Harris's argument lol

[@sabotagesabotage7927]

From studying Topology and differential mechanics, I found the concept discussed here on entropy very insightful.

[@Ephantus_]

Oh my God! Brian and Jordan Peterson!

[@demeboss6650]

JP and Brian Greene OMG!!!!!

[@pascal8306]

Amazing.

[@COWBOY72ify]

I'm a new fan of All you produce Mr P. Thank you for your zeal and your ability to share and explain what you know. GOD truely has Blessed you beyond what most people could phantom to understand. I am using your material to Grow up as a 52 yr old man,I have issues that needs Loud confrontation. Thanks to you it's more likely to evolve into something great. I will be joining your academy as soon as I am able to commit the cost into my budget,which is very small at the moment. God willing I will not be down long. Also began exercising into wk 3,never did that before,shooting for 50lbs.....Again Thank you sir. May your desired and hearts will be fulfilled By HIM who rules all to HIS GLORY AND PURPOSE.AMEN

[@carollen5601]

Thank you thank you, subjects right up my alley!! To be watched more than once. 😙 😙 😊 😊

[@mitchmccarron8337]

Great show !! Just one point that I am able to clarify for you Jordan: In the 2 split experiment, each photon interferes with itself (as a single wave would), not with subsequently fired photons without a concept of time. One single photon would show a wave-like image with 2 slits, even if no other photons were ever sent in the experiment. PS: Saw you in Brisbane a few years ago, love your work :) Mitch, Australia.

[@frankcandalisa3544]

Thanks!

[@shayec6183]

I don’t feel worthy of conversations like this

[@kensears5099]

I came to this realization, about Time not "existing" (isolated from the change that, as it were, spawns or generates it) a long time ago, with the help of a book called "The End of Time." It is an insight that really does prove, in so many ways, therapeutic in life, emotionally and psychologically, on the level of memories, regrets, the sense of loss, and the sense of Time's tyranny. It changes so much.

[@benlapak187]

Dr. Peterson consider having Eric Weinstein on to talk about string theory's hold on the physics community or perhaps Curt Jaimungal from the KZbin channel Theories of Everything. I think both of these conversations would be worthwhile.

[@zimzob]

Curt has had Peterson on his show before

[@claudiajimenalemaitrebarra6920]

Excelente conversación. Muchas gracias Jordan. Saludos desde Chile 🇨🇱

[@jaytravis2487]

One concept thqt alludes common understanding is the connection between mathematical ideas and physics. A great place to start is simple multiplication and how the idea of multiplication can be 'projected' (so-to-speak) ONTO our intuition about the physical world. That momentum can be thought of a p=mv (momentum = mass x velocity) , and the idea of velocity os captured by measuring the distance something has been traveled divided by the time interval under consoderation. Its such a simple concept and together with Descartes' idea of an x-y plane/x-y-z plane you can construct a sinple system where a projectile is launched, obtains a maximum height and then plummets (here we consider forces...gravity being among them). Id be so excited if thinkers like Peterson could grasp/teach intuitive mathematical concepts. I think this idea is essential to move people and society forward

[@carlyellison8498]

High school physics?

[@carolspencer6915]

Good evening Jordan and Brian Super brilliant shared exploration of science math and meaning I suppose. So grateful for you two human beings over the last few years. Again thank you for my all encompassing sanity sensemaking brain gym. Fractalicious connective stuff, indeed. 💜

[@sugakukata]

43:19 What Dr. Greene is trying to say here is that in special relativity, time dilation is given by: Δt = Δt₀ / √(1 - v²/c²). So when v = c (speed of light): Δt = Δt₀ / √(1 - c²/c²) = Δt₀ / √(0) = Δt₀ / 0. Since division by zero is undefined, it's not that time doesn't pass for a photon; rather, the formula becomes invalid when the velocity equals the speed of light (v = c).

[@NightsideOfParadise]

I have no idea about the formulas but I understood your explanation.😂

[@josieray1543]

Delving into quantum mechanics, physics, entanglement keeps me coming back to a most beautiful thing Anton Zeilinger said of Einstein..."He [Einstein] wasn't so much interested in this prediction or that prediction. He just wanted to know what were God's thoughts when he created the world."

[@Mountebanksrus]

Wow. Not sure how much I understood but it was an amazing interchange of ideas to witness.

[@geitekop507]

Sweet! New episode dropped, and with such an interesting person too!

[@Moto_Vission]

Dr Brain greene is a genius ❤❤

[@brandis3309]

High frequency good vibes, man ✌️

[@helicalactual]

entropy can be thought of as the "hidden Information" of all the states it could have taken vs the one it took. it's the information that you don't have that is entropy, not the information that you do.

[@taughtbytragedy]

Free will section is just so well explained. I love briane Greene dudes

[@alchemist786]

What an amazing synergy 🤓

[@telugoe]

Dr. Peterson is, without a single doubt, the most influential thinker of our time. A brilliant mind, trying to light up the way for the rest of us in these tumultuous times of darkness. We must protect Dr. Peterson at all cost!

[@samromeo559]

He's a joke

[@davidhunt7427]

*_The difficulty really is psychological and exists in the perpetual torment that results from your saying to yourself, "But how can it be like that?" which is a reflection of uncontrolled but utterly vain desire to see it in terms of something familiar. I will not describe it in terms of an analogy with something familiar; I will simply describe it. There was a time when the newspapers said that only twelve men understood the theory of relativity. I do not believe there ever was such a time. There might have been a time when only one man did, because he was the only guy who caught on, before he wrote his paper. But after people read the paper a lot of people understood the theory of relativity in some way or other, certainly more than twelve. On the other hand, I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics. So do not take the lecture too seriously, feeling that you really have to understand in terms of some model what I am going to describe, but just relax and enjoy it. I am going to tell you what nature behaves like. If you will simply admit that maybe she does behave like this, you will find her a delightful, entrancing thing. Do not keep saying to yourself, if you can possible avoid it, "But how can it be like that?" because you will get 'down the drain', into a blind alley from which nobody has escaped. Nobody knows how it can be like that._* ~ Richard Feynman

[@BrentynMacMillan]

Trully fascinating

[@James4201Taylor]

I would love to see Brian Greene debate Eric Weinstein on this topic and have Jordan moderate the thing.

[@thatguybrooke]

Yes! 🎉

[@dominicmalilay4293]

Awesome talk

[@bruin4Christ]

Consciousness creates new information. That’s what causes the wave functions to collapse. 🍵

[@lovepeople951]

It's an interesting interview.

[@matteyas]

for anyone who wants to understand the double-slit, the interaction is not between "the photon and itself," but between the photon and the slit. if there's another device, like a detector that only goes off if the photon passes one of the slits, then the photon interacts with the slit + that device. interaction _is_ measurement. (or using other terms, all measurement is a two-way exchange between the measuring entity and the measured; like the thermometer's casing changing the temperature of the liquid it's supposed to measure.) what you see on the wall-a pattern like | | or a diffraction-is the result of the interaction with the device (or lack thereof) + the slit. using the prior example, you don't measure the temperature of the liquid. you measure the temperature of the liquid + the casing of the thermometer. (similarly, in entanglement, you not only measure what state your particle has, you measure the entire system, which consists of two particles. your measurement is local-it changes nothing at all at the location of the other particle-but you infer knowledge about the entire system which happens to be spread out.)

[@fletchergull4825]

Oh hell yeah, I've been waiting for this one!!!

[@effexon]

JP gets deeper, in this episode it is necessary to jump into black hole to learn something of yourself and beliefs.

[@I-YoutubeAccount]

In any case, Brian Greene is an incredlble person, he's so effective at explaining the complexity as it is, and respects its absurdity and humble to its "spookiness" Jordan seems 'off' today. Its as though he's extremely nervous, or being as if he's talking with Carl Yung - hyper excited, conflicted, elevated, whilst trying to hold tight composure, explain articulately, etc. It could also be early morning and hasn't had his morning coffee or split on the way to this interview.

[@spindoctor6385]

My guess is that JP usually feels like the smartest guy in the room (he would usually be right) but when talking to somebody like Greene about physics, he knows that he is miles behind. It is always humbling asking questions that you know are of a very basic level to somebody at the top of their field. I might be wrong, he might just have had a shitty day.

[@autumnleaves2766]

Jordan was perhaps just a little tired, he leads such a busy life. Let's face it, quantum theory is more or less impossible for we mere mortals to understand, and I actually thought Jordan asked good questions and seemed to know a good bit more than the rest of us non-physics people. Wouldn't it be great to bring Jung back to life and have Jordan sit and talk with him ? Jung died on 6.6.61, rather an interesting date ! Jordan was conceived just a few months later, so perhaps he was sent to us to re-awaken interest in Jung's work after a long period in which behaviourist psychology seems to have been all the rage.

[@carollen5601]

Maybe Dr Peterson is seeking answers to something which has been on his mind. Perhaps it has to do with entropy and death? Personally, this has been haunting me most of my life. Just saying.

[@chrisquinn394]

@spindoctor6385 lol, you're funny. He's a bit hesitant because it's hard to take these theories that seriously. You know that string theory is not proven. Not even close. In fact, many respected scientists in the same field of study don't believe in the theory at all. The theory isn't a standard or agreed on by any majority. So no, Peterson doesn't feel intellectually inferior, lol. He's being cautious, is all.

[@spindoctor6385]

@@chrisquinn394 It is irrelevant whether or not string theory is proven or not. It is still based on a lot of empirical data, other theories and mathematical procedures that Peterson is smart enough to know that he barely knows the basics of and that Greene is an expert in.

[@larkmars8182]

Wow, such ideas are inspiring. Especially free will

[@TheFringedGentian]

As I am listening, I keep coming back to Carl Sagan: “We are a way for the universe to know itself. We are all made of star stuff.” And I realize that although I’m not a scientist because I have the mind of an artist and a poet and not a scientist, I understand time and eternity and matter and space from a profoundly theological perspective. I was raised in a fairly science-shy and science-skeptical religious culture, but the more I hear arguments from people like Spencer Klavan that the dichotomy between religion and science is a false one, that true science and true theology will always be hand in hand, and it is only false science and false theology that clash, the more I am just filled with wonder. The world is in such an awful state right now that I’ve been reading the Psalms for comfort, and the Psalms are full of this: “The heavens declare the glory of God, and the firmament showeth his handiwork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night showeth knowledge.” And with regard to time, I think of St. Peter: “For one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” And then Lewis says that we are born into Time but we are made for Eternity, and I think that speaking of timelessness without the theological understanding of Eternity is a bit out of our grasp as finite humans. Just some thoughts From completely out of her depth Ruth Anne

[@redneckrevolt1]

These are the 2 most powerful minds alive today!!! I can’t believe this is free! 😅

[@alienrenders]

Never thought I'd see these two together. I know Brian is not politically aligned with Jordan. This was a great discussion.

[@james50227]

That was a good one Jordan.

[@anthonypesola3294]

Entropy is time. They are both the irreversible additional of inertial displacement due to two or greater bodies interacting. This displacement, change in the inertial pathway, is always one way. There is no subtraction of interactions, regardless of relative inertial displacement. Two "things" interacting will never "un-interact". This increase in total interactions indefinitely is time. There happens to be a discernable rate.

[@sarahrussell9808]

@@anthonypesola3294 Yes, but also, everything turns over..... Think about dry ice; the entropy has increased to the point that it is so cold, it is actually hot and can burn.

[@anthonypesola3294]

@@sarahrussell9808 We call it a burn, but it technically isn't the same as a burn from heat. Dry ice damages tissue because it is negative 109 degrees as a solid - causes the water in our tissue to freeze instead of expand into a gas. It's frost bite. This has nothing to do with entropy, though. Entropy is often called the total movement in a particular chunk of space/time. It appears chaotic & randomly orderly - but only in the particular resolution of the system. Entropy is more than total moment though - it's not a thing. Entropy is giving us a hint of one of space's mechanics - rate of motion through it & the exchange of information in it. The motions & information of the fundamental things going on are apparently never undone - doing so just adds more movement/information from somewhere else changing the totality again. This ever increase/unchangeability of motions that have occurred at the rate space permits is our experience of time. We are just insanely both zoomed out too far from micro & to close for macro observation.

[@SherriFlorad]

really liked this video

[@Lancer71123]

Worrie about the present and near future. Brilliant minds should focus on what is now and what is here. These types of things come much later in our timeline.

[@laurafortier9295]

Omg. Did you giys listen to my wishes? Love you both. This is going to be goooooood

[@wuggyfoot]

YO BRIAN GREENE! HYPE

[@jennymcgowin9140]

Soooo good!❤❤