A Camera Matte Box that works with SCREW-ON FILTERS // SmallRig Mini Mattebox

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Anybody else love how smallrig uses part numbers for their stuff? so easy to search and find.

[@leighmosley7873]

I do. Makes life so much easier.

[@Ribeye512]

Super useful esp overseas on 3rd party sites :). This Matt box should work with freewell 7in1 filters ?

[@studiotrics]

Sir can u tell me the diffrence between smalrig 3575 mattbox and 3196 mattbox ? Pls rply

[@KingNP41]

What was the thread size of the ND filter you put on the step-up ring before you attached it to the matte box? Also. Can you attach 2 circular filters on before you attach the matte box? or just one

[@JimBeckwith]

I have the same question

[@SmileyBoy]

You use the same size filter as the lens you’re running. So 82 for this video. The step up ring has a thread on the other side that is the same size as the lens you’re stepping up from.

[@SmileyBoy]

@Carlos Gaviria no problem

[@madedigital]

Also adjusting the circular filter with the large glass in the main tray prove that they may have rushed this through, the hack is to make hole so the finger rotate VND filters as an access point

[@gingersnaps7186]

I have an 82mm mist filter and an 82mm nd filter. Am I able to use both of them at the same time on this Matt box or will I need a different size for one or the other? Thanks. Great video.

[@harshsingh6692]

Were you able to find answer to your question?

[@gingersnaps7186]

@@harshsingh6692yes. It arrived and fits perfectly 🎉

[@harshsingh6692]

@@gingersnaps7186 thank you for the info

[@codysnyder2260]

@@gingersnaps7186which 82mm nd filter? Does 82mm VND filter fit? Which brand? Very curious.

[@gingersnaps7186]

@@codysnyder2260it’s the Nisi true colour ND filter and fits nicely 🎉

[@CorretjerFilms]

I guess not all 82mm VND are the similar as it did not work with the Moment 2-5 VND due to its outer ring not fitting inside the Smallrig Mini Matte Box. I think I will have to go with something else like a PM, Nisi or Freewell.

[@camerajames]

Does the outer ring of the Moment completely not fit, or is it just too tight to turn? Does that mean the outer ring of the Moment is more than 95mm??? WHew!

[@CorretjerFilms]

Correct it does not fit at all due to the pronounced variable ring around the filter that hits the box angled surface preventing it from screwing at all. @@camerajames

[@camerajames]

Thanks! Bummer they were the filters I invested in! @@CorretjerFilms

[@itswysdumb]

dude, this is perfect.. im literally about to buy the same filter, wasnt sure if its gonna fit my small rig but... now i know, cheers

[@imagesbeyondtheice]

Yes please to a full video on rigging up the A7SIII with focus wheel and all!

[@barryobrien1890]

There are circular filter mounting rings available for the larger smallrig matte box, a 77 and 95 to 114 ring. They are $20 and are much easier to adjust as the matte box is bigger

[@ChampionshipMuscle]

I am new to this. I have a Canon M50 and use the kit lense and the nifty fifty lense. Which do I use. I didn't understand the numbers on the step ups.

[@ZachMeissner]

I’m finding that the 82mm Cinebloom VND does not fit through the holes. The edges are just a bit too wide at 96.16 mm :(

[@quirkworks4076]

This thing works really well with my K&F variable ND filters. Highly recommended.

[@satsu_leitz]

What size of the VND filter do you use and fits?

[@alexanderhutchings]

This is what I want to know too. He doesn’t say what size the internal thread is.

[@khalilghosn2754]

Hello, quick question. Do i need 95mm circular filters or normal 82mm will work with the matte box i am thinking of getting one and i want to see if my freewell magnetic system will work with it

[@devin_melao]

Did you find out the answer to this?

[@BlackPartyFilms]

What is the size of his filter? He put a step up ring on the lens but I’m sure the filter is a different size than the ring

[@quiztasiarocks]

Mine seems to be getting stuck to my Tiffen mist filter, a lot.

[@gpicturez]

How to attach 82mm circular polarizer and ND filter with the mini lite mattebox on the lens diametre of 55mm ?

[@GUANTA23K]

Hi Chris, I am using step up rings to 82 mm, so all my radial filters are 82 mm. But I kind of wonder if I could at all use them with this mini matte box, since you are applying smallrig’s step up rings from x to 95 mm. Although smallrig‘s website says, „radial filters up to 92.5 mm possible“. I really can’t tell from the footage or the photos on the website how that might work. What do you think? 82 mm radial filters possible, and how? Great review, thx!

[@hoangsshipfilms1838]

Did you find it out? cuz I have the same question :D

[@GUANTA23K]

@@hoangsshipfilms1838 Hi, yeah I bought the Smallrig Mini Matte Box, and it works. You can mount your 82 mm filters inside the matte box.

[@hoangsshipfilms1838]

@@GUANTA23K very thank you m8 :)

[@GUANTA23K]

@@hoangsshipfilms1838 My pleasure 👍☺️

[@GUANTA23K]

@davidj2669 unfortunately not. Only works up to 92.5 mm outer diameter of the radial filter.

[@teckno_senpai]

I got this matte box but it wouldn't fit on my PMVND 95mm! had to return it... so confused

[@chinfilms3798]

when buying filters that screw onto the rings for the matt box, should they be the lens diamtier size or the matt box size?

[@lxvxfilms]

To answer the question if the front thread will fit 82mm variable ND. maybe the Polar Pro 82mm yes. But if you have the 82mm Moment Variable ND it won’t fit

[@Scherpschutters]

I just bought the smallrig box after watching your video, but the step ups are not threaded on two sides, but only on one side like you say in this video.... Now I can't use my ND filters....

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Check again. They 100% are, that’s how this works

[@ReiDoesIt]

Very nice and professional video :-) I have the matte box and it's good with small lenses like 67mm, but it's not very pleasant to us with larger 82mm filter size. There will be veeeery little space. If it's like NiSi ND filters with the little peg for easier turning, it will not work in there as the peg will hit the matte box walls and prevent you from turning it.

[@daniortiz_DJ]

looks great! so you can only use 95 diameter filters with this matte box? thnaks!

[@joelbrown2856]

Does the 82mm to 95mm converter have a 82mm thread for the filter to screw into or is it a different size ?

[@andresaguilo3613]

I have the same question but with the 77mm converter

[@Roman.Visuals]

He has 82mm lens, 82mm vnd and 82-95 step up ring for the matte box to clamp on. So the step up ring has inner threads with 82mm.

[@Colorado4x4]

I need help. I have a Sony A9 and a Tamron 17-28mm lens and I’ve tried multiple variable ND filters but get a lot of vignette even at the 22mm focal distance. What filter do you recommend? I’ve tried larger filters with step down rings but want a system that would work with my lens. I’m open to larger square ND filters and it doesn’t have to be variable. I’m shooting only video outdoors in mostly bright light. Thank you.

[@jacquesparis361]

Hello, I have bought the mattebox 2660 and I want to use it with my tamron 24-70 mm (filter 82mm) and a VND filter 82mm. Which ring must I buy ? Thanks in advance for your help. Jacques

[@felipejulian]

I have a matte box like this from Tilta, I would like to know if is possible to use the 82mm Polar Pro PMK filter using step up rings?

[@JCSvideography]

Anyone in the UK know if it's poss to purchase a single adapter ring replacement from the adapters that come with the original kit?

[@bananasandbass]

What I can’t seem to find out is what the filter diameter on the front end of the adapter rings is? Are they all 82mm or is the size the same as the back? So right now I’m using a 67mm variable ND filter, and I wonder if that will still fit on one of those adapter rings. Or so I have to buy an 82mm variable ND filter that fits on all the rings?

[@bananasandbass]

Update: I bought the mini matte box and indeed each filter adapter ring has an inside diameter that’s the same as the lens diameter. So that means you’ll still have to use an adapter ring for your round variable ND filter, or make all your lenses the same size first with step up rings

[@ProducerWannabe]

@@bananasandbass Hi, so can you use your 67mm ND with the matte box or do you have to buy the 82mm ND?

[@JonasStuart]

Nice, just ordering this matt box for my BMPCC 4K to replace my tilta matt box (which won't fit one of the new Milvus lenses I'm ordering). Love the way it works with VNDs and other front filters....

[@IntoTheWildAfrica]

Will this setup work with My sony 12-24mm G F4 lens?.... ps great vid bro... thanks for the good info

[@karliemorris7318]

is it only one barn door on this matte box

[@raghavmaru4989]

Can we use the setup on ZEISS cp3 lenses ?

[@jordanalexander5844]

Is it hard to rotate the VND inside the mattebox ?

[@Arkadiusz4321]

does 3575 version will have the same posibilities to mount vnc filters or 96 version is more flexibe, cause I am selling my tilta mini mattebox to get smallrig and have an option to mount simmod vnd filter cause it's immpossible in titla mini xD

[@cheesedust-n3w]

Has anyone tried attaching multiple filters before mounting the Matte Box on? So I have 77mm filters: Promist, a circular polarizer and a variable ND filter. I know it may be asking for too much but I wanted to add these plus the Mattebox on a BMPCC 4k. I think worst case scenario I can attach two filters and just use 4x6 fixed ND fillters.

[@YAXHY]

I have the sirui 35mm anamorphic for my gh5 and the lens flare, although geurgeous, not suitable for professional work. I do real estate and mostly do outdoors stuff, so i’m looking into buying this one. But can anyone tell me if just the flap on one side gets the job done or would i need it on sides too to get rid of any leaks or flares?

[@TheNorang]

For the VND filter, can you put in 82mm filter in front?

[@diegopalma5123]

Hi! how are you? please tell me if its possible to use a a 72 or 77mm lens with a 82mm VND...is just going with a step up ring? thanks!

[@imusic1006]

Can you use a 4x4 filter with this?

[@anthonyariasr]

So, that ND filter is an 82 or a 95? Do I need to buy the filter in the lens size or to the matte box size? Sorry, I'm new in all this and want to build a rig

[@ChrisFlores22]

Please make a video on your a7siii/fx3 camera rig for weddings. Also what gear you take. That would be awesome!!

[@DTUFINOPhotography]

Would the weight of maytte box with stepup ring effect some of the cheaper glass? i have some 77mm lenses but would be awesome to use this box as a run and gun with the cheaper Canon RF 35mm 1.8 and Canon RF34mm 1.8.

[@matt.banton]

Great video! How does it balance on a gimbal, is it possible? Cheers

[@jeremydesigns5678]

can u pass me the link of your hand strap please

[@ArnFilmmaker]

My lens size has 77mm same with my nd filter. Can I still be able to place my vnd filter using this mini matte box?

[@matteocarofei5389]

What if my lenses are 82mm and my ND circular filter is also 82mm?

[@eril2025]

The Canon RF 28-70 F2 says it's 95mm, but it doesn't connect to (95mm) boxes as the one on the video, fyi.

[@henni_d]

Have you tried the Mattebox with the 24-70 next to you? Is there vignetting at 24mm especially in combination with a VND? Would be so helpful if you could answer 🙏🙌🏼

[@vitalvisualz]

Wanted to know the same exact question

[@francopan]

So you need a 95mm filter then?

[@istiancabusas]

Question: Can you still rotate the ND filter with a lever mechanism like the NISI ones Great vid, man.

[@5k_addy]

Is the filter size the camera lens diameter or the step up's?

[@InWhoseOpinion]

What size round fikters does this use. Thankx

[@ZachMeissner]

Excellent video, thank you! Do you have a pro mist filter on? Really like the light bloom of the lamp.

[@SDW2000]

That was very helpful. I ordered one today. Thanks for review!

[@SamHolland]

Nice one man! 🤩👌🏻🎥

[@chrisbrockhurst]

keep up the hard work on the channel Sam, thumbnails looks very consistent recently, nice work!

[@SamHolland]

@@chrisbrockhurst thanks Chris! 🤩🙏🏻 I definitely need to do some more work on those thumbies 😂 awesome channel! 🎥 hope you’re well

[@jayclas4023]

Looks like you need a 95mm ND filter?

[@nelsonluis5750]

Someone can tell me what size of these VND filters are? 82mm?

[@ferdysgdumel]

Hi Chris, after watching this great video, I've purchased the mini Matte Box but ran into a problem with installing the 4 x 5.65 filter (as mentioned on their product page) whereas you talk about their square filters. Please, shed a light.

[@havuzstyle]

hello whats ur lens brand ?

[@SCREENLURKER]

You mentioned that it will take square filters (100x100) but the product page says they're not compatible. Is there a method of fitting them regardless?

[@HooeyTwoo]

Since it's using Filter Trays, Smallrig will probably release some for 4x4s as well. Though I couldn't find anything on their website yet.

[@Emigrantos]

Square filters, can you rotate them like in the pro matte boxes? I have a gradient filter and I'm not sure if there is the way how I can use it?

[@FelipeAlmeida_media]

Thanks for the great video! What size ND filter do you think would be the max size to fit in there? I purchase the mini lite, but could not fit my 82mm ND from tiffen, I know it’s a big ND filter, but just wondering if this matte box is bigger. Thanks again!!

[@felipejulian]

Did you found the answer?

[@FelipeAlmeida_media]

Yes, so it’s going to really depend on the ND filter you purchase or have. The Tiffen ND I have seem to have a larger diameter then others. So in my case I got a smaller Tiffen, but I have had people tells me that there ND fit fine.

[@Xavier_Sc]

I'm not sure to get it... My Tilta mini matte works with variable filters too...

[@Micah-Woods]

The essentials!! 🔥 I'm glad they come with adapters too.

[@TheMelonStorm]

Thank you so much for this video, it answered exactly what I was wanting to know.

[@Superjeanmarc]

Yes please, rigging up the FX3, much wanted video .. Thanks mate

[@chrisbrockhurst]

🤙🏻

[@mribi]

Same here

[@lxvxfilms]

just note only certain filters will fit. for example the Moment variable nd filter for 82mm it won’t fit. tried sigma 25-70mm. the filter won’t fit

[@DanaWillaxVideos]

Have you tried this on the sigma 24-70 you got there? I tried the tilta version and got terrible vignetting all the way up to like 50mm or so.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

24-70 works fine!

[@DanaWillaxVideos]

Ya absolutely love to hear it

[@jesuscosme1965]

I have a 24-105 with the matte box attached at 24mm there’s a lot of vignetting, anything from 35mm and up it’s fine even with my 20mm the vignetting is very very noticeable!

[@Adriano7aleo]

can u use a zoom lens with this?

[@SHVideografie]

So how does the mini mattebox work with a large size screw on filter, lets say 82mm, with a smaller size filter thread size of the lens (like 72mm)? I hope you understand the question.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

82mm filters work with no issue. Thats what I tested this with

[@SHVideografie]

@@chrisbrockhurst Yeah what I meant was: you probably need an additional step down ring to attach a larger filter to a smaller filter thread size lens. But how does that work when hou also need the adapter to attach the mattebox to the lens?

[@posebukse]

How does it work for you stacking VND and pola's, don't you get the blackout?

[@andyreynoldsiprovid133]

Any idea if this works with the NiSi filters?

[@xTeinix]

Question un viltre de diamètre 95mm passe dans la matte boxe ?

[@javierb1535]

Hi, great video. I use a vnd from Haida, is for 82mm lenses but the front glass is 100 mm diameter, do you think i will use this vnd with this mattebox? Thanks bro

[@BrendanEvan]

The screw in filters allows me to retain my beloved VND so…I’m returning my other one.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Yeh this one is definitely going to be the preference for a lot of folk

[@leighmosley7873]

Hi Chris. My Peter McKinnon variable ND filter (82mm) won’t fit the matte box ring for my Sony 24-105 4.0 Goss lens. Any clue what size variable ND filter will fit with this combination? The step up ring I’m using for this lens is 95-77.

[@rickymcc8624]

You probably need to use a stepup 77-82 on your Sony 24-106 (77 thread) then use Smallrig 82-95 adapter ring (which will probably then take PolarPro 82mm). An alternative is to buy another PolarPro 77mm VND - but that's a more expensive fix. I'd be interested to know with 100% certainty if the PM PolarPro 82mm VND does indeed fit with enough clearance to operate the VND if choosing the 82mm size. I tried the new Haida 3-7 stop VND with circular polariser but even with the side handle unscrewed it wouldn't fit as outer diameter of 82mm Haida ring is virtually same size as 95mm outer diameter of 82mm Smallrig 82-95 adapter. In effect the matte box fits very 'snug' over a pre-attached Haida 82mm VND such that it's impossible to operate. The only (totally impractical) work around is to remove matte box, set Haida ND 3-7 stops, unscrew Haida 'side handle (that sets ND) then re-attache the matte box.

[@user-dh5fp4gw1b]

Pre ordered instantly! This would work with adapter rings right? I got 2 tamrons with a 67 to a step up 72mm. This will just work right?

[@svendollbaum1338]

Very helpful, thank you!

[@GregTardif]

Does a matte box just act as like a lens hood but for wide viewing angles?

[@chrisbrockhurst]

for wide lenses its not going to be ideal, you might see the edges.

[@GregTardif]

@@chrisbrockhurst sorry, guess I meant like anamorphic lenses. 🤷

[@ekphotography]

Screw on up to what size? Tilta takes upto 77mm no problem but the 82mm fit too tight...

[@chrisbrockhurst]

82 works no problem

[@apexyao8931]

It takes 95mm filters right? If so then it’s a no go for me cuz all my filters r 82mm 🤦‍♂️

[@evansalina]

Step down rings should alleviate, I think?

[@sevideotyyppi]

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but it can take any size circular filters. So if you use for example 67mm lens just use the 67mm adapter ring which comes with the kit and it will take 67mm filters on front. Same thing with any size. Or if you have bigger filters with smaller lens thread size you can just use a step up ring.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

exactly.

[@roddymurray]

Doesn't seem available for orders in Europe, anyone able to find it?

[@chrisbrockhurst]

smallrig website has it, unless its backordered.

[@ChrisFlores22]

So you have to use a 95mm vnd for this to work?

[@k1k13004]

if I understand correctly : if you have, for example, a 77mm filter for your lens, you can put in on, then on the filter there is another thread for your stepup ring to 95mm, it will support the matte box.

[@patrickreynolds5262]

Thank you man. This was very helpful for me.

[@breadboyshaun]

how's the usability of the VND with the mattebox on though? looks pretty restrictive to me..what's your thoughts on that? was it hard to adjust?

[@breadboyshaun]

great video nonetheless, thanks for showing us the smaller variant! :)

[@chrisbrockhurst]

my 82mm turns pretty easier, anything larger might be a challenge

[@breadboyshaun]

@@chrisbrockhurst ahh that's good to know! i believe the 82mm should be the largest filter thread size for lenses, i guess it's safe for all other sizes then..thanks for the input Chris!

[@broseworks9502]

Will those rings work with the larger matte box?

[@JoseFArias-lt4uv]

Does the autofocus work with a matte box? Or the matte box is designed to work with manual focus?

[@KonnorGann]

A matte box does not affect AF operation. He is using a manual follow focus but it is independent and completely separate from the matte box.

[@JoseFArias-lt4uv]

@@KonnorGann ty

[@TerenceKearns]

This is very helpful

[@benkellyvisuals]

Great video 👌 was wondering what hand strap you’ve got on your camera in the video?

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Tilta, ive added a link in the description for you

[@benkellyvisuals]

@@chrisbrockhurst ayy cheers man

[@SvetlinTomanov]

Could you please shed some light on something I was wondering? The step-up rings got on the respective lens filter size - so in your case an 82 mm and the filter you used is an 82 mm as well? So if I would like to mount a 67 mm lens and the respective step-up ring, I would need to use a 67 mm thread ND filter, correct? If so, that would mean that if I have an 82 mm VND, the best thing to do would be to use two step-up rings - in the case of a 67 mm lens - 67 to 82, then the Smallrig step-up ring and the 82 mm VND, and then finally attaching the Matte Box. Thanks for the great video!

[@ekphotography]

If you have a wide angle lens you will most lilely get vignette... I get vignette with the Tilta Matte box plus one step up ring...

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Try and find step up rings that will cover the most distance, i.e a 67-82 opposed to a 67-72, 72-82 that way you can reduce any vignetting on wider rings. But otherwise what you say is exactly the process

[@ekphotography]

@@chrisbrockhurst Yes, I always use one step up up ring only. But some times I use a Balck pro mist filter and that adds some length, re: adds to vignette.

[@SvetlinTomanov]

@@chrisbrockhurst Thanks for the info! It's just what I had in mind. I'll be getting it. :)

[@evansalina]

Nice video man, and I like the channel. I’d be interested in seeing it compared to the tilta. Considering one to go along with Freewell filters.

[@mribi]

Same, this will be great with free well filters

[@SheaHarris]

Can we stack round filters?

[@KonnorGann]

Yes

[@madedigital]

I got the tilta the benefit of the other large mattbox from small rig is that it took 4x4 filter which this new one does not ,ok you can stack the larger filters but I would us one circle filter and square ...they missed a trick here 4x4, someone should make a 3D printed adapter it’s not hard I will.

[@productiontechmedia]

Chris, love your videos, quick question about the SmallRig Mini MattBox & the ND Filters. I bought the H&Y VND-CPL 67mm-82mm Variable ND Filter, so as to avoid all the step up rings. Do you have one of these? if so does it also work with the SmallRig Mini Mattbox ?

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Thankyou! I actually don’t have one of those but less step up rings is always a better way

[@productiontechmedia]

@@chrisbrockhurst no worries, I’ll let you know when I try it out.👍 Keeperlit🔥, as we say in Ireland☘️📸

[@MinutesWithMates]

@@productiontechmedia did you try it out? I have the H&Y VND CPL 67-82mm too. Wondering if it worked out ok

[@castministries]

@@MinutesWithMates I did and it didn’t fit on with the Smaller Mattbox you have to use it without the Mattbox or go for a larger size Mattbox. I have a video I made building out our Sony FX3 rig and drop this nugget of information in, Which I hopefully will get up on our KZbin channel soon.

[@Whaever_1981]

Best $99 dollars I've spent on something that appears cheap and useless but is the exact opposite. A great option for any mirrorless cine applications and light as a feather! :)

[@TZFilms]

Are you using the lens filter size or 95mm filter size?

[@eliapozzan8566]

What size of ND filter did you use here?

[@chrisbrockhurst]

82mm

[@ignited_productions]

Great video - looking to buy a matte box !!

[@ChrisFlores22]

Hi Chris! Bought the matte box based on your recommendation. Do you use a matte box on every camera being used to film a wedding? I will usually have 2 cameras on sticks during ceremony and have one camera on me to get handheld stuff during the day.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

for weddings I typically wouldn't use them much, so much running around its a pain to have them on sometimes!

[@bitemedia3679]

What size is your VND that you screwed on? I have a 82mm VND. Will that work?

[@chrisbrockhurst]

82, so yep works great

[@ifionu]

@@chrisbrockhurst is it just 82mm vnd that works?

[@_TheDailyDan_]

This works with my 82mm Nisi filter great

[@devin_melao]

I have the exact same filter, how do you get it to work? (Sorry if it's a stupid question)