A Chinese Maglev Revolution is Coming...

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[@vietadvisor6781]

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[@waitingforanalibi2224]

is there anything you can do with filtering the sound of of your inhaling between sentences? Once I hear it, I cannot unhear it!🤣🤣

[@hg2.]

The long-distance ones don't make sense -- that's what planes are for.

[@fillyfresh]

@@waitingforanalibi2224 it's why he is called Whistler

[@waitingforanalibi2224]

@@fillyfresh Thats too funny! 🤣 His middle names not tangent is it?

[@VicariousVoyager]

I'm Chinese Canadian, and I remember going back to China to visit my grandparents in the early 2000s. We would fly into Beijing or Shanghai or Hong Kong and then take a 20 hour train journey back to my hometown in the North-West of Hubei. We took these "green-skinned" trains that crawled around on single track and had to pull into sidings to let more express trains by. I considered myself lucky in that we got "soft-sleeper" tickets instead of the "hard seats" where people would sometimes literally sit for days. We would pass countless cities, towns and villages, giving a perfect cross-section of the poverty and drab nature of the Chinese countryside. There were bicycles, water-buffalos and sometimes a three-wheeled flat-bed motorcycle. At the time, I couldn't help but feel an almost shame to be Chinese, to be from a country so poor and backwards. Fast forward to today, disregarding that my comparatively small hometown has had an airport blasted into a mountain-top with daily flights to all major cities, the same journey that in my childhood took 20 hours now takes 4, and I'm only 28. In 10 years the same countryside has also changed. Brand new perfectly paved roads follow the railroad, children in smart uniforms walk carelessly to school, the once myriad bicycles that slalomed through the streets now replaced with family cars and the tuk-tuks with electric vans. The train travels at such speeds at you don't have time to properly take everything in, but you notice the cleanliness, the smart little gardens, the gleaming stadiums and skyscrapers, and the vibrance of the country as whole. I noticed that no one in the train but me was looking outside, pre-occupied with work, school or the latest TV show thanks to the wi-fi. The transformation of the country seemed also trivial, something that wouldn't be noticed by anyone who didn't get to see China through a series of snap-shots in form of visits. I couldn't help but feel immensely proud to be Chinese, and lucky, to have been able to witness it all happen with my own eyes. In the time it took Vancouver to build one subway line, China has built an entire country. As I've gotten older, I've realized that the China I saw in my youth was the anomaly, not the modern one we see today. China didn't go through an economic "miracle", it's simply back to what it is: a civilization painted with millennia old culture, bonded with an ancient identity and inhabited by an ingenious, tenacious and resilient people.

[@st.altair4936]

China's Century of Humiliation is over. They are rebuilding themselves as the world's economic centre that they once were before British and Japanese colonialism, and it's a beautiful sight to see.

[@Jin88866]

Do Chinese villagers miss the old days when they didn't have much material wealth or comfort but life was simpler and relationships more authentic? A lot of old people in my country feel that way.

[@Roymei-yb9ci]

别整天华人华人地乱叫！谁特么跟你是华人？香港台湾都是百越人！80%所谓的海外华人都是百越人！

[@peace163]

That's amazing! 😍 I wish one day my country would also get back the glory it had throughout the entire human history other than the present and past 200 years. Love to china from Bangladesh 🇧🇩 Love

[@hg2.]

@@st.altair4936 British and Japanese colonialism? How about that contemptible CCP?

[@passby8070]

Here's the fun fact, US spent 8 trillions in Afghan war, roughly 5 times the cost of China's total rail spending for the last 15 years. In that period, China has built 95% of the 45000km HSR, along with maintaining and expanding it's huge regular lines.

[@rickandelon9374]

😂

[@lzl4226]

With how the US spends money, let's not pretend that 8 trillion could've build half of that rail.....

[@youtaccount-v2p]

Wow 8 trillions that's 26K per capita of US population

[@xvbd6067]

And the media says China is bankrupting it self making all this infrastructure

[@Lsy-j7m]

by 2035 China high speed rail amounted to 70000km with some running at 600km/hr.

[@WolfetoneRebel1916]

Meanwhile in Ireland our tiny Metro project has been in development for 30 years and hasn't even started yet.

[@paulgilbert9346]

But you guys did develop steam powered monorails - the Listowell & Ballybunion might not have been fast but it was unique.

[@felixsu375]

Don't feel bad. I live in Boston and it took 20 years and $21 BILLION USD to dig a few miles of tunnels and a bridge. For most of my adult life, there was construction on the highway going into Boston and the roads in Boston. It was a giant pain in the ass. I forgot to add that they promised 5 years and it will be done.

[@xiaoranmo7308]

⁠@@felixsu375you guys can build aircraft carrier in no time but couldn’t build tunnel or bridges under 20 years what’s going on?

[@RattledPan]

I'm sure they are still considering all of the possibilities. I don't doubt they have their best people poking at the best computers and your Bestest tossed a dash of AI (which we used to know as Eye of Newt) for extra measure! They are professionals, folks. Don't try this at home. It's down to California as the biggest boondoggle in the US. I just checked. They are on schedule to blow through $10 billion at the end of the year without a train running yet. I don't mean to imply topping your Metr-less Metro in Shame. The best way to get people pissed off is to figure out how much per person it has cost not to go anywhere yet. Should you need one, I have a fine recipe for tar to use, if you like and should you find someone worth wasting feathers on.🏴‍☠

[@chriscarroll8204]

And we got rid of miles and miles of rail for stupid reasons that's we'll need to reinstate and some point...

[@slypear]

Took the Changsha maglev line last year. While not that long or fast, the ride was incredibly smooth. Would be great to see more built anywhere!

[@yaoypl]

Here's the well-known Chinese wisdom: To get rich, build roads first.

[@abdulwaduod11]

thats sounds like a Romanian wisdom

[@hg2.]

Long-distance mag-levs aren't for making cost-benefit sense. They are for the bribes, boondoggle, and bragging-rights of the evil CCP. (This comment will get deleted by pro-CCP censors.)

[@hg2.]

@@Mikupigeon Yes. Long-distance mag-levs aren't for making cost-benefit sense. They are for the bribes, boondoggle, and bragging-rights of the evil CCP. (This comment will get deleted by pro-CCP censors.)

[@nicksonsicnawa9607]

Who says that in Romanian' don't owned something if you don't have evidence.

[@irritatedanglosaxon1705]

LOL Romania only existed in perhaps 500 yrs, that's Chinese money and of course it's profitable to them

[@pbworld7858]

Wow, he didn't mention the word 'authoritarian' this time. Not even a 'but at what cost' comment. This maglev might still be in the research stage but I'm willing to bet it will be up and running before the Californian HSR.

[@Bob_Smith19]

That’s a given. California democrats keep embezzling all the money for that rail line. Can’t be the other party because they have no power and few elected reps.

[@TheDanEdwards]

​@@Bob_Smith19 "California democrats keep embezzling all the money for that rail line."

[@NinjaRunningWild]

@@TheDanEdwardsI’m sure you’re capable of your own research.

[@madsam0320]

Simon being positive about China? I can hardly believe my ears!

[@B.D.E.]

Yeah it's quite worrying isn't it. I'm not sure I can take Simon seriously anymore if he doesn't have the spine to address the elephant in the room. Worse still the possibility that he's bowing to CCP pressure or taking money or incentives.

[@jameslee9032]

We visited China last year and took the high-speed train, it was amazing .we enjoy

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

As a comparison, the construction of the fast train In a proud country. HS2 has been staggeringly expensive ( fase 1). Connecting London to Birmingham 66bn km (140 mil). has costs around 82 billion usd.or $232 million per kilometer (km). And California high-speed railway (Phase 1) connecting San Francisco Bay to Los Angeles 800 km (500 mil) . has costs around 120 billion USD. Or 150 million per kilometer (km)

[@marley7868]

worth noting the cali train is not meant to finish it's an elaborate money laundering scheme

[@Jellybean-gz4cj]

I appreciate Simon’s accurate depiction and videos of the clean and smooth trains in China.

[@HaraldinChina]

So rare to see a non-Chinese channel reporting just unpolitically about China. Excellent research

[@zahrans]

Oh, Simon, whether he is aware of it or not, does plenty of 'reporting' which are basically the pushing of the pro western narrative on his other channels. Thankfully his megaprojects channel is a bit on the light side regarding that.

[@Naikomi95]

Next time he should try being factual😂

[@havocrein]

​@@Naikomi95Unlike the fake mainstream media in USA and Europe😂😂😂

[@Naikomi95]

@@havocrein Yes, it's true China is so overhyped by the media. All the mainstream lies about the oh so developed China are so obvious bs.

[@Naikomi95]

@@havocrein Yes, it's true China is so overhyped by the media. All the mainstream lies about the oh so developed China are so obvious bs.

[@Techstriker1]

"$39.759 million" That doesn't seem too bad for- "Per kilometer" Oh.

[@matsv201]

Considering that that included 6 km of extra track (not included in the km number) 3 trains with 6 wagon each, a train deport with space for 18 wagons, two raised station, a full C&C system as well as a turn key operation and training. That is actually pretty cheap California high speed train cost about $68M/km and that don´t include anything but tracks

[@jordanhooper1527]

HS2: hold my beer for £22.5bn spent for nothing

[@mho...]

easy payed for, if you dont have pay to your enslaved "citizens", easy for the glorious godkings to do whatever they want with the accumulated billions -.-

[@ayushchaudhary8527]

@@matsv201 china high speed rail network is 1trillion dollar in debt and only 1 financial successful line

[@matsv201]

@@ayushchaudhary8527 Yes, but Chinese high speed rail network is rail, not maglev

[@ManikaYapa]

In 2021, Chinese HSR had almost 2 billion annual passengers, and that figure is pretty much representative of current HSR utility in China. Some lines definitely are underused, but we can’t deny that a substantial proportion of the Chinese population has benefited from the construction of these railways. In terms of the railway’s profitability, I think our Westernised perspective has trained us to view everything in a capitalistic fashion, but perhaps it's time to realise that not everything needs to be assessed like a business. I'll take a wild guess - the Chinese government is building such projects because it facilitates labour flows and makes life more convenient for their citizens, not because it's supposed to be a money-spinning machine.

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

The fact is that the United States' freeways are not free and lose money every year

[@gourav4672]

Lol all debt have to be paid, you think other counties did not come to this realization? "Build even if cost a lot?" Debt has to be paid by the citizens of that country

[@_martian101]

@@gourav4672 it's way better to pay a debt for infrastructure, rather than pay a debt for useless wars

[@_martian101]

@@gourav4672 the US could have build way more lines with much more advanced technology if they're not war maniac

[@Whitfield369]

@@gourav4672yes the debts have to be paid. I borrow from the bank, build a profitable business, I paid the debts and become rich. A country spends money in infrastructure, Economy improves, citizens incomes multiplied, tax revenues pay the debt from the infrastructure expenses. If you still don’t understand, learn about our interstate highway system, then solute to President Eisenhower.

[@musafawundu6718]

When you've got a purposive state and when one has a political system that strives towards consensus than one that incentivizes division, and also when one has a huge population and huge labour pool of skilled manpower that's relatively inexpensive and technology actually exists to do something, such a state can actually enact it relatively affordably...

[@ignitionfrn2223]

1:20 - Chapter 1 - What is maglev ? 4:40 - Mid roll ads 6:00 - Chapter 2 - The shanghai maglev 8:15 - Chapter 3 - The coming revolution 14:00 - Chapter 4 - China's provincial maglevs

[@hg2.]

Long-distance mag-levs aren't for making cost-benefit sense. They are for the bribes, boondoggle, and bragging-rights of the evil CCP. (This comment will get deleted by pro-CCP censors.)

[@hg2.]

I'm sick of it. These status symbols don't help a million commuters get home an hour early. These stupid things aren't for transportation, they're for political bragging rights, like the Moon shots. Long distance maglevs, "bullet trains", HSRs --- that's what PLANES are for.

[@-Osiris-]

You the real MVP

[@hg2.]

See this video; China's "ghost" railway stations prompt questions about rapid expansion ... ^^ $1 trillion in debt and they don't make money. Long distance maglevs, "bullet trains", HSRs --- that's what PLANES are for. These status symbols don't help a million commuters get home an hour early. These stupid things aren't for transportation, they're for political bragging rights, like the Moon shots.

[@1956paterson]

The Chinese are investing in this infrastructure of maglev trains because they know this fast rail transport will pay off for generations.

[@bobmorane4926]

And they're also looking for a way to reduce the maintenance costs of 45 000 kms of hsr which is adding up especially as they age. That's a huge challenge only the Chinese can undertake.

[@brentonherbert7775]

What generations? OH the generations they dont have cus they over did their one child policy?

[@sealtrader]

@@brentonherbert7775 Frog Brain if one has dumb mind like so.

[@fvalemus5377]

​@@brentonherbert7775 brenton is coping and seething

[@saladman8745]

@@brentonherbert7775 the population will still exist for quite a while

[@-ULXtheSpaceArtist-]

We always see videos on youtube about how bad chinese rail is. I went to china, took it, and the ride was like 100x nicer that what we were told by western media. Thanks you for spreading the reality @Megaprojects

[@Raulsta1985]

America lies.

[@zzyzx0069]

Simon "And the project cost $39.759 million...." Me: "Hey that's actually very cheap!!" Simon: "Per kilometre!!" Me: "Okay nevermind then!!!"

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

As a comparison, the construction of the fast train In a proud country. HS2 has been staggeringly expensive ( fase 1). Connecting London to Birmingham 66bn km (140 mil). has costs around 82 billion usd.or $232 million per kilometer (km). And California high-speed railway (Phase 1) connecting San Francisco Bay to Los Angeles 800 km (500 mil) . has costs around 120 billion USD. Or 150 million per kilometer (km)

[@james_l4337]

It is fairly cheap, its China! Plus 1 missile is ~100 million Which is worth for society ? An on going public high tech facility that support all other industrial companies, rises of all society facility

[@appa609]

@@james_l4337 Very few missiles cost hundreds of millions. The only one I know is the Sentinel ICBM project, and that's an extreme outlier.

[@james_l4337]

@@appa609 Sorry my bad, I should rewrite 100s to mean 100 something million, not meaning multiple 100. They usually do cost over 100 million... Crazy. It is cheap consider the sicken bombs & missiles, to build per km of such good infrastructure, maglev IMHO

[@hughmungus2760]

@@carkawalakhatulistiwa keep in mind the shanghai maglev was built in the early 2000s. Adjusted for inflation thats probably about the same today.

[@1michiganbuck]

Pretty amazing. I never saw a train before I went to college in China. To then to go back and ride these high speed trains in 2019 was a moving experience.

[@pengzhang5081]

哦 那你是1800年在中国读书的吗 不然不可能没有见过火车 你都活了200多年 ❤

[@CharlieCharlie88]

@@pengzhang5081what are you on about? I grew up in a small town in China and never saw a train until I went to college in 2012 either.

[@ntrgc89]

So, you would say the train moved you?

[@dunzhen]

@ntrgc89 🤭 good one

[@JinghisKhan]

@@pengzhang5081 这家伙是在美国长大然后回国读大学的。在美国小镇上一辈子看不到火车其实很正常。

[@Raven-lo4wm]

I recently returned to China for the summer, landing at the Beijing international airport (which it alone is very nice) and took the regular high speed rail from Beijing to Wuhan. The ENTIRE trip took like maybe 5 hours. I, having suffered through about 48 hours of sleeplessness and a minor cold setting in, had basically fallen asleep instantly. The seats were spacious (I think I got second class tickets) and the ride was just really nice overall. And it was really cheap too. Compare that to the... somewhat bad... metro system in my local area in the U.S.... I can't not laugh. Even the lesser maintained local intracity subway/light rail was so much cleaner and better maintained than the subway system which is almost like 60 years old now...

[@chillstep4life]

I love how China is less talk and more work. They never stop improving their infrastructure. Respect 😎😎

[@smith5312]

In Australia every govt for the last 40 years has announced a “fast train” along the eastern seaboard and still nothing but 40 years of press releases and glossy feasibility studies costing tax payers millions $$$.

[@nannon2934]

a glorious 40 years 😊

[@eat_ze_bugs]

But 400 billion for submarines and defense spending upgrades are worth it.

[@smith5312]

@@eat_ze_bugs absolute waste of money, would be far better spent on health, education, infrastructure just to name a few.

[@Klanmo]

Just curious, why does Australia need high speed railway as the polulation is not that many?

[@marley7868]

@@smith5312 russia begs to differ

[@krisirk]

In the UK we're still doing rail electrification upgrades...

[@bryn494]

They're stopping at my home village (Wigston), 4 miles short of the city because their bridge is too low :D

[@sosapablo1995]

What i love about the chinese government is they do first and talk later

[@MrBdoleagle]

they will do investigation and research before implement plans. but overall decision-making/operation overhead is much lower than western countries.

[@Naikomi95]

Buying old German tech?

[@projectchad_24]

@@Naikomi95 seems like someone is jealous😏

[@Naikomi95]

@@projectchad_24 of what? A 40 year old German train?

[@廖博]

@@Naikomi95 😂技术不是应该服务于人类吗 ？难道技术是用来做摆设的吗？如果作为技术的发明者不是应该感到自豪吗？服务了十几亿人口.没有人去仇恨技术的发明者，难道中国政府用这项技术去服务自己的人民有错吗？一个政府不去提升本国人民的生活质量那他存在的意义在哪里呢 ？

[@geoffreymcgrath338]

When I was in high school back in the 80s, I remember seeing a story on something similar to the Maglev system, that Australia was looking at implementing. I don't know what happened to it though, buti thought it was going to be very exciting and was disappointed it never happened. Guess cost or practicality was wrong...

[@matsv201]

No, it was the government that failed with the implementation. There is still a project to this day one the board around gold coast

[@Naikomi95]

Maglev doesn't work, China is only running an old German train as a propaganda piece

[@georwoogle]

Oh, my god. Look at those comments. Go to China and take a ride on their high speed train. I did. It is amazing.

[@brentonherbert7775]

Ah yes you know when i think high speed rail i TOTALLY think china.... And totally not japan thats been doing it for decades...

[@brentonherbert7775]

@a1sauce775 Literally laughing my ass off at the fact china genocided its own population im sorry if you mistook these tears for sad ones i assure they are not 🤣

[@hughmungus2760]

@@brentonherbert7775 japan's rail is nice but nowhere near as expansive

[@brentonherbert7775]

@@hughmungus2760 Probably because it doesnt need to be. Japan has THE BEST public transport system in the world for a reason. And idk about you but id rather go on the best one than the biggest one.

[@hughmungus2760]

@@brentonherbert7775 Sure whatever, Its not like china's public transit has to cater for nearly 10x more people.

[@st.altair4936]

Must be nice to have a competent government...

[@jackshen1028]

It will after Chinese fusion generator success.

[@hg2.]

^^ unbelievable apologist for Mao and his 100 million murders.

[@st.altair4936]

@@hg2. It was 1000 gazillion actually, according to western propaganda

[@hg2.]

@@st.altair4936 I bet you're a public school teacher.

[@st.altair4936]

@@hg2. A dermatologist actually, but I do teach students sometimes ig

[@Sacto1654]

It could be done, but the expense of construction on a per-kilometer basis is going to be somewhere in the stratosphere. Reason: to keep up speed over 500 km (310 mph), you will need much more gently curved and sloped track alignment, and that means a lot of extremely expensive (by anybody's standards!) long tunnels and bridges. Just the cost from Chengdu to Wuhan would be extremely expensive with the very long tunnels needed going through the low mountains between Chengdu to just west of Wuhan, tunnels that will also need earthquake mitigation, given Chengdu is located near active earthquake faults.

[@onetwothreefour-s1n]

Good points

[@bobjaydenmarley7406]

Doesn’t count for the MagLev. It’s not a normal train many problems don’t affect it .

[@watcherit1311]

​@@bobjaydenmarley7406Yeah, it is magic, only bound by imagination 😂

[@hg2.]

The long-distance ones don't make sense -- that's what planes are for.

[@ballyhigh11]

I read somewhere that 90% of the 280km Chuo-Shinkansen will be in tunnels. And the Japanese are doing that for the surprisingly low price of 80 billion US dollars.

[@foodparadise5792]

I am Chinese, we respect our government because it takes care regular people.

[@shafsteryellow]

Good.

[@mggaming4624]

careful they are going to block your vpn

[@roxylius7550]

@Spam-XXheheXXnone asked your opinion

[@roxylius7550]

@Spam-XXheheXX MAGA troll spotted

[@YorktownUSA]

Everyone laugh at the CCP bot 🤣

[@DirtyFishFingers]

No Simon, we will be back in 10 years talking about China's star trek style transporters.

[@Cheesecake99YearsAgo]

They have been building HSR since 8 to 10 years ago So how many 10 years are you talking about ? 😂

[@TomDrez]

@@Cheesecake99YearsAgo 8 to 10 years ago you didn't even know how the chinese flag look like, nor you were caring about them, let alone you knew about potential researchs on their maglevs system, i just love thoses kind of answers, people immediately get triggered on the defensive when it come to china's developpement to try on bash them for no reasons, you feel threatened over nothing that's just ludicrous, only americans indians and europeans uses as much emojis as words in their comments if not more. You actually even look quite reasonable next to much of them, so long as you don't qualify everybody who try to engage in an analysis or a simple conversation over their planification as a bot because you don't want to hear anything about their enormous potential. And he's first comment was obsiously a joke, which i'm not too sure about your answer?

[@Naikomi95]

What has China improved on the original German train?

[@masterchinese28]

I took the Maglev for the first time in 2004 not long after it opened. I told friends and family back in the States about it. Until now, it remains a viable way to get to the airport, depending on where you are coming in from. It was fairly empty in the early days, but I attribute that more to the poor design of the transfer. If there had been a direct transfer from the metro station into the Maglev platform. Instead, they set it up where you have to leave the station, go up a new set of stairs, buy a ticket, go through security... all of which diminished the time savings of going 431 kmph to the airport. For the record, saying that it travels to "downtown" is a stretch. Longyang rd station is still pretty remote and when it was built it was really sparsely inhabited compared to the rest of the city.

[@hurrikkkanes2533]

20 fkin years ago 😂

[@masterchinese28]

@@hurrikkkanes2533 Yep! 20 fkin years ago. (kinda makes me feel old, lol)

[@tofdao]

Dude, the transfer from line2 to meglev only takes you about 5 mins at LongYang road station.

[@masterchinese28]

@@tofdao The whole maglev ride only takes 8 mins. Going through security a second time is redundant. Cut that down to 2-3 minutes, the time savings of the maglev ride is more appealing. My two cents.

[@Naikomi95]

The maglev China uses is a german train developed 30-40 years ago

[@WBCY2024]

The meglev actually just levitates like a few cm off the track, but that few centimeters makes all the difference in ground friction. Crazy to think about

[@lucasart328]

Well ofc 1m or 2m away from an objectvis still not touching the object

[@ostadfiha4225]

How many KZbin channels you can run at once?? Simon Whistler - Yes

[@DannyChean]

I come to this comment section to collect some tears of blind hatred.

[@Cheesecake99YearsAgo]

😂😂

[@musicdev]

I did too, and now my cup runneth over. Cope, westerners

[@Kalankit5409]

keep scrolling pajjet

[@dunzhen]

I realize China genuinely hurts westerner's egos and superiority complexes. Non-racists can appreciate China's achievements

[@nhvidn]

Their tears tastes great 😃 cry babies

[@Vermilion2049]

Thank you for reporting honestly on China and show the good of China. Rather than just follow the anti-China narrative

[@YandereDevSings]

The trains is the only good thing to report on in 2024. They got some damn good trains

[@TheRahsoft]

i went on the shanghai maglev in nov 2004- not bad. had a look in the drivers cabin. looked basic plus the drivers had an assistant sitting on a kitchen chair ! only problem is that this line only runs a short distance into the shanghai suburbs, you need to catch the shanghai metro to get ito shanghai proper.. its only a 20 minute ride and only hits top speed for less than a minute..

[@TrogdorBurnin8or]

Not a problem with the technology, just a problem with the system they decided to build, which was a small technology demonstrator. Later it's served mostly as a tourist attraction.

[@icebaby6714]

It is 40km in distance and the entire journey takes 8 mins. That is just a show case to the world.

[@TheRahsoft]

@@icebaby6714 it took 20 mins when I went on it. i recorded the timing, and not really that much of a show case

[@hg2.]

The long-distance ones don't make sense -- that's what planes are for.

[@aftl_ryz8549]

The shanghai maglev is just one ouf our german transrapids, so technology from the 80s and 90s that we cancelled here because of the cost and one accident. The system is great, sad that shanghai is the only place it's getting used. But it's already old and china doesn't directly have access to the german plans, but time moved forward!

[@aph1555]

Meanwhile in Melbourne, the airport rail hasn't happened yet

[@james_l4337]

Still public transportation better then World Supremacy 😊 can't ask for more when nation budget is much smaller size, & does depends on foreign trade for some income On top of willy ninny on & off policy, bipolar

[@nhvidn]

Hey at least you have freedom( to spend tax payer money )-- some American maybe

[@pixelmasque]

In Sydney my trains stop when it rains😂😂😂

[@trepan4944]

I would buy a ticket if America could actually build a highspeed rail or maglev train across the nation. The views would be incredible.

[@廖博]

确实，作为一个中国人，表示美国这么大，有许多漂亮的美景，可以花更多的时间把自己的家园建设的更漂亮。为什么一定要做对抗性的竞争呢 ？

[@philiptan2051]

Wow, China has built 45000 km of high speed railways across the land. On top of these domestic high speed railways China has built thousands of km railways in many countries in the world within the BRI program. Now, China is the first in the world who is about to introduce the commercial Maglev trains with a maximum speed of 600 km/hr. China’s invention of “high temperature super conductor” makes the maglev train much cheaper to build and exploit the super conducting phenomenon at a relatively high temperature.

[@SilverStarHeggisist]

With concrete that you can crumble by hand cause to cut costs they mix foam into their concrete lol

[@philiptan2051]

@@SilverStarHeggisist yeah, like the Baltimore bridge, it collapsed by a slight touch of a container ship. That shows the quality of American bridges like you commented. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@SilverStarHeggisist]

@@philiptan2051 the forces involved in a 100+ thousand ton ship moving at 8 knots are near invincible to a human used to human scale. So no, more like the videos of people in China literally crumbling concrete with their bare hands

[@philiptan2051]

@@SilverStarHeggisist that is a silly argument, really dude. The Baltimore bridge was not protected by concrete at the foot at its pillars. Besides, a gentle touch of a container ship at a very slow speed should not make the whole bridge collapse like a house of cards. You are not an engineer, are you?! Videos with concrete that can be crushed by human hands are fake, dude. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@SilverStarHeggisist]

@@philiptan2051 sure buddy

[@jackdaugaard-hansen4512]

Current maglevs have 5 issues, 1: you have to build a completely new track, 2: Cost of the track is 4 times higher then regular tracks with all the electronic charging wires, 3: If the power goes out, you can’t use the track because it requires electrical power and you can’t drive anything passive on it, 4: the switches on the track have to be completely moved if you want it to change directions. So it not a very Practical design but a company in Poland called nevomo has made a track design that has solved those problems, there design is a semi passive system, it’s basically modifying existing tracks with a electromagnetic third rail that’s a passive magnet which proves the lift and then it adds 2 more rails on both sides of the track for active electro magnetic stabilisation, this is because permanent magnets are unstable so they need to have some kind of magnetic or mechanical stability, one company called iron lev uses rollers, the tests have show it can go through switches and over roads, the goal is to increase the speed by 72%, 177km/h to 300km/h for regular rail and 320km/h to 550km for high speed rail, an important thing I must note is that regular rail can be used on the tracks due to the magnetic technology being place around it and can actually enhance it by using liner acceleration which is a known technology on Vancouvers sky train

[@jamessaintjames1387]

The Shanghai Maglev is about 12Km from the city centre so you have to change to the subway or a taxi which makes it quite annoying after a long flight.

[@jameslee8997]

Love your narrative style - informative and funny.

[@Minty-vo4hm]

apart from the constant conversion from imperial to metric........ get in the 21st century and use metric only. let the yanks educate themselves on it

[@tomgoynes5039]

It's all working towards exporting. They'll know how to rapidly construct the lines, know how built the trains and know where the problems are. And know which countries to sell them too (UK I'm looking at you)

[@Bob_Smith19]

Debt trap inbound.

[@aliyousuf2342]

The biggest issue with large scale rail projects in the west are property rights and environmental review. Try and build anything anywhere and there's gonna be some endangered pheasant that the project threatens, and that'll be a decade of lawsuits on its own. Then there's always a number of property owners along the proposed right of way that not only have no interest in selling an easement, will actively fight the project at every turn.

[@ensteffo]

@@Bob_Smith19 Its only the western capital providers which deals in debt trap policies which is evidenced by all international debt statistics.

[@siepkotack2864]

Could you please make a special 2part episode on engine development with part 1 concentrating on general history and part 2 on the unique side of engine development. LOVE YOUR VIDEOS BTW!!!👊

[@ibrahimn22]

When you have lots of money and don't have to maintain 700 military bases all around the world.

[@Naikomi95]

And you still havent improved a 20 year old German train

[@stxfdt1240]

What​@@Naikomi95

[@stxfdt1240]

​@@Naikomi95don't cry look and learn

[@Naikomi95]

@@stxfdt1240 yes, I learned how terrible Chiiiiinaaaa is

[@Naikomi95]

@@stxfdt1240 the maglev in shanghai is an 30 year old German Siemens train China hasn't managed to improve

[@NormN354]

In future how about you make two versions of these videos, One for Planet Earth and one for Planet America. Just do the numbers in voice over for each according to the system used. It's tough enough to follow with just one system used. Start a campaign for KZbin to combine the views for one total, we'll bombard KZbin to support the idea.

[@vincentgrinn2665]

one fact that i find incredible is that while tgvs wheeled speed record is only abit slower than the maglevs record speed (570vs600km/h) the difference is what it took to get to that speed, the tgv accelerated for 80km, downhill, and needed to disconnect so they could increase the overhead wires voltage half way through. and then took 70km to slow down to a stop the scmaglev got from 0-600-0 in under 11km

[@TheNewGreenIsBlue]

Yes... that's the main advantage. The TGV run of 570km/h was impressive... but really it just required a long enough and straight enough track. In real life, there's a reason no wheeled train runs faster than 350km/h. It's just not practical... because... physics. Steel-on-steel acceleration and, more importantly, DECELERATION just doesn't make higher speeds practical. You'd spend very little time at speed... a little like speeding up to a stop sign. The L0 Maglev in Japan will reach cruising speed in about 60s which is remarkable. BUT EVEN THEN... any stops drastically reduce average speed. The Nagoya-Tokyo DIRECT service will take 40 minutes, but it's planned for the all-stops service to take about an HOUR longer. This is partly due to that fact that it will probably have to wait a little at some stations to allow direct trains to pass through, but also because slowing and accelerating still take time.

[@vincentgrinn2665]

@@TheNewGreenIsBlue lot more issues than just that as well, china has tried running some of its trains at 400, and even considered dropping some down to only 300, because the extra wear and maintenance to run that little bit faster is huge

[@TheNewGreenIsBlue]

@@vincentgrinn2665 Yeah... same reasons they don't the Tohoku line at 360km/h as planned. The wear on the tracks and caternary wires and noise pollution for a relatively modest reduction in trip time. It WILL be more important when the line goes to Sapporo as there will be actual time savings... and they're working on the noise issues, but that won't be until 2030. They want to get Sapporo-Tokyo to ~4hours which would probably require 360km/h along parts of the line. That being said, China definitely benefits from 350+ trains more than Japan due to the large distances involved between its largest population centres... as would places like the USA.

[@MayYourGodGoWithYou]

@@TheNewGreenIsBlue But from what I've been told the US doesn't even have traditional diesel or electric trains for most of the country. You can't - for example - live in Fredericksburg and commute to Washington/Arlington/Alexandria for work by train (I've checked, the train only runs every four hours and tickets cost up to $230 a trip according to the internet, a site called tripsavvy). Given Washington DC is the CAPITAL CITY that is appalling, unfortunately the map didn't give distances so I've no idea of the distance but it takes an hour and a half to get there and there is apparently a whopping one train every four hours - tough if you miss your morning train to work, you're stuck. From someone used to simply going to the nearest train station and waiting for the next train (never more than an hour, we are a small rural station and not every train stops here) and being in Dublin in under an hour, slow train stopping at EVERY stop on the way, this is unbelievable.

[@TheNewGreenIsBlue]

@@MayYourGodGoWithYou That is more or less correct. It relies on its highway network and private cars. But you chose a bad example. First of all, being the capital doesn't mean it's going to automatically have the best public transit. In many regions, the capital city is not the largest. In Western Canada, Victoria is the capital of BC, in Washington, Olympia is the capital. In Australia, it's Canberra... and Vancouver, Seattle, Sydney/Melbourne all have better transportation networks. Secondly, Fredricksburg is a small town of 27,000 and realistically, doesn't have a HUGE amount of demand to travel 90km into Washington. Much like there's not much demand for people from Rathnapish to commute to Dublin.

[@fdjw88]

When he said our government spends 1 trillion on the military per year, i felt nothing but sadness. I don't see how this 1 trillion dollar is benefiting the citizens in anyway. A couple months ago, a female student was beaten to death on my campus by an undocumented immigrant. She was so young, in her early 20s, she had her whole life ahead of her, she had so much potential. Nothing was done, the news talked about her tragedy, the students offered their prays and condolences. At the end, the suspect was caught, but what do we do to prevent the next tragedy? It feels like nothing is being done, and the government is just collecting our tax money and wasting them on some places that most Americans haven't even heard of.

[@廖博]

😂很多美国人民甚至不知道，自己国家在国外有多少军事基地。更不知道自己国家的航母有事没事就跑到别的国家门口瞎溜达.告诉别人你要听我的

[@Slaphappy1975]

To compare, the UK's ruinously expensive HS2 highspeed rail is now projected to cost 250 million pound sterling. Per km. The mind boggles at our inefficiencies.

[@jamesodell3064]

I like Rory Sutherland's idea of instead of making the trains faster at huge expense make the trip more enjoyable.

[@OleksiiMynko]

That's ridiulous. Sure, UK's workforce if more expensive but it can't be 10x more expensive. IMO, it's the red tape that drives prices up and make prijects delayed.

[@eddie4324]

@@OleksiiMynkoIt’s the tunnelling and paying off landowners.

[@rickyz5606]

@@jamesodell3064 Sure a slow moving Thomas that you can open the window to enjoy the view is more enjoyable than a sealed bullet train, for a tourist.

[@klubcj]

Watching this from New York, subway, hang on, I can feel something on my feet 🐀

[@Raulsta1985]

Or it could be a crackhead....

[@rush4you]

I'd like to know more about the "slow maglevs" you mentioned at the end. What are the benefits versus conventional trains and monorails? Are they cheaper to operate and maintain because of lack of friction? Isn't that compensated by a possibly higher energy consumption?

[@airrodgers1242]

low maintenance, low energy use, low noise so it can run late night, and it can run on higher slope route..ie hilly route...

[@abdulwaduod11]

@@airrodgers1242 very expensive to build

[@Xind0898]

its important from an industrial policy level (China does this far better than any other country), to start building projects even if its not yet profitable at a economic level, to start getting scale and tech-know hows. i bet those slow maglevs are not profitable at all compare to conventional rails, but they are subsidized by the central gov.

[@Naruchyo-c1v]

@@Xind0898 Its also important that China consider these trains as infrastructure for the people. Just like hospital, you don't ask "Does this hospital made profit?"

[@kunchen3278]

@@Xind0898 exactly, this gent has a mind

[@stancil83]

9:00 The single fastest train levitating just above Earth. Could I have just ignored this? NEIN!!!

[@bellshooter]

Yeah! As someone involved in train propulsion the technology is fine, can be made stable and will result in fast low maintenance services. There is a big BUT here. The penalty here is energy, you certainly spend a little less than tracked vehicles, as most of the energy is used to overcome drag at speed , not to overcome track friction. The real gotcha is the energy required to levitate the train, it's a lot. Plus the cost of replacing rails with levitation tracks is horrendous. That's why all current tracks are short dedicated services.

[@matsv201]

You are incorect on all points. Maglev trains have no wheels or power pick up or really any other external protruding stuff. They are way more aerodynamic than conventional trains, hence they use less energy at higher speeds. The levitation is provided with hybrid magnets. They use basicallt no energy at all when levitating and use a lot of energy only when lifting of the track. When levitating at traveling forward they use only about 50w per ton in energy to balance the hybrid magnets.

[@bellshooter]

@@matsv201 Sorry, your credentials as a train engineer are? There is no such thing as zero energy levitation, energy is also used for track position maintenance laterally. Did you actually read my comment? At no point did I say that maglev trains are wheeled. The point is that energy is used on both types of train and is not vastly different as most is used to overcome drag.

[@matsv201]

@@bellshooter "Sorry, your credentials as a train engineer are? " Sufficient. "There is no such thing as zero energy levitation," You be very wrong about that. Levitation it self requires no energy. Some system have energy to balance the levitation. There are totally passive systems. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqPVf2SsnKZrqtE "Did you actually read my comment? At no point did I say that maglev trains are wheeled" Jepp, but you didn´t read mine. "The point is that energy is used on both types of train and is not vastly different as most is used to overcome drag." You be wrong about that to. The main drag from a high speed train is power pickup and wheel assembly. To a degree also wagon connections. The first two things maglev trains don´t have what so ever. For wagon connections they can be done much tighter on maglev train than conventional trains. Reducing the last amount of air resistance. In effect a maglev train typically have less than half the Cv value of a wheeled train

[@bellshooter]

@@matsv201 Your 'Sufficient' qualification is obviously not. Pure magnetic levitation IS possible but this cannot be used for train levitation due to the need to control it for vertical stability and payload control, and lateral stability needs for track centring during any movement. The energy required for conventional electric rolling stock is according to the speed squared and only a small expenditure is for rolling resistance, the vast majority above about 80 kph is for air resistance, just go do the maths.

[@matsv201]

@@bellshooter "Your 'Sufficient' qualification is obviously not. " You say so? Are you sure? "ontrol it for vertical stability and payload control, and lateral stability needs for track centring during any movement" I just sent you a video where they show a practical example of them having a totally passive track, so you are clearly wrong. " the vast majority above about 80 kph is for air resistance, just go do the maths." Did you even read what i wrote or are you so absolutely expert you don´t need to read the reason given becasue you just know?

[@samsonkth]

17:30 that whole sequence sounded so funny 🤣

[@herminator250]

Shares for sharing this amazing tech!

[@Naikomi95]

You are so impressed by a 40 year old German train?

[@yushen7202]

I heard my university was mentioned - Tongji. That was a surprise.

[@cliffwoodbury5319]

These lines should be covered by partial dome glass to keep wind off them. automatic cleaning systems could clean them and it will make far less friction and lower costs.

[@byhyew]

That's the idea of hyperloop

[@Lauwergames]

Shanghai maglev just does 300 now. Been there couple months ago

[@wongpohchan9485]

Shanghai's Maglev can travel at a max speed of 431 kph. But this speed is only touched once or twice a day. Normally tourists who visit Shanghai will choose the train schedule that travels at 431 kph. 19:32

[@masterchinese28]

You probably rode it after the sun went down. They still go 431 kph during the daytime.

[@Naikomi95]

So its still the same as the original German train 30 years ago

[@aquahoshino590]

Some of the video footage you used are actually from Japanese Maglev testing track where test trains have been running for decades. You can tell because the train is driving on the left. It is striking that there is no mention of the testing track or the construction which has already begun between Tokyo and Nagoya.

[@GeorgeTheIdiotINC]

to be fair this video is looking at china and using footage of maglevs in general to get the idea across, Japan might be good at making High speed and Maglev rail but China is so good at that aspect they blow any competition out of the water. the only county that could ever compete with them doesn't have any high speed rail

[@byhyew]

Chinese trains also drive on the left. Guess they all picked up from the British.

[@dpsdps01]

The new high speed maglev by CRRC is based on the same Transrapid tech that has been used on the shanghai maglev. They licensed core parts of the technology while developing other parts at home. The high costs of having to purchase directly from germany as opposed to using domestic trains is what stopped the initial rollout of maglev. Now that this problem is solved, China goes full steam ahead.

[@John_259]

It's worth mentioning that the linear induction motor, the basis for maglev trains, was invented by the late Professor Eric Laithwaite of Imperial College, London.

[@wwbdwwbd]

Is he a cisgender male or non-binary?

[@chingtuckmeng1122]

why britney didnt has mag? after you claim invention

[@benbo4394]

I think China has a greater advantage due to their purchasing power parity in terms of development compared to that of other first world countries so they get more technology developed and build for the cost. Out of curiosity was the money pricing in the video based upon USD pricing or cny

[@YandereDevSings]

That advantage is nothing considering that Chinese people are all clustered in cities facing one coastline, and so few of them own cars. They will always have enough people to support these kind of projects no matter how bad the economy gets

[@Kwippy]

The Maglev line from Shanghai city to the airport has been operating for decades. The thrilling ride that tops 430km/h isn't even expensive. Compare that to London's airport express from Heathrow that goes for more than double the price at less than half the speed.

[@karelius7085]

You should have mentioned the British inventor of Maglev travel. Professor Eric Laithwaite had a working model in 1975. A full Maglev passenger service operated between Birmingham station and airport from 1984 until 1995.

[@Adiscretefirm]

The Shanghai maglev cost was partially justified as basic military R&D into electromagnetic propulsion. They were just starting to work on their magnetic carrier catapult

[@widodoakrom3938]

True

[@Naikomi95]

Chian didn't do any development, they are just running an old German train

[@Adiscretefirm]

@@Naikomi95 it's not old, Siemens designs never left the drawing board before Shanghai. China built the tracks and 1 train, the other 3 trains were German built. Don't confuse it with the old low speed M-Bahn maglev that ran in Germany

[@Naikomi95]

@@Adiscretefirm they did 450km/h in germany in 1989. The only thing China did was being worse then Siemens/ThyssenKrupp more then 30 years ago...

[@Cellpeg]

China will grow larger

[@19447427]

we will be generous

[@YandereDevSings]

How are they going to grow larger when there’s not enough young people? China is shrinking into a giant retirement home

[@muditchaudhary7255]

There is an old saying in the subcontinent that buying the elephant is easy, taking care of the elephant is expensive

[@arminius6506]

Indian butt is hurt 😭

[@coconutsmarties]

Ok but what do they say in the domcontinent

[@c.n.crowther438]

@@coconutsmarties I'm more interested in the funny stuff the bratcontinent has to say

[@zaco-km3su]

It's cheaper than using aircraft.

[@qin02]

Yes that’s why the subcontinent will never catch up soon

[@nickduxfield4324]

however 90% of lines can’t even pay for themselves, no traffic, have you noticed.

[@yqisq6966]

13:52 damn those shots look like straight out of an Ultraman show.

[@michelleduncombe9675]

Australia definitely needs a better rail system to connect the country we just can’t afford it because we would have to pay all the people who work on the project.

[@AlphaCookies]

No what u guys need are submarines to protect your trade route that u use for trading with China from China.

[@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus]

Australia has the same problem as Canada, not enough population density to pay for high speed rail, or passenger rail of any kind really.

[@Xind0898]

consider the intercity activities in Australia, flight is more than enough. Main arguement is around Melbourne - Sydney, which i guess a HSR make sense for those two consider those 2 mega cities are quite close to each other, if we can take HSR from melb to syd and return within a day, it would mean alot.

[@matiasavellanal5244]

@@Xind0898 Melbourne and Sydney are almost 900km apart not at all close

[@Xind0898]

@@matiasavellanal5244 its pretty close relatively speaking.

[@djamelravaton5324]

You guys should make an ep about the Japanese bullet train.

[@user-vv7ir1pl4j]

they operate 50 kms slower then chinas why

[@heavenbright2342]

Japan inferior maglev lol

[@Cheesecake99YearsAgo]

Kinda outdated by around 10 years 😂

[@CharlieCharlie88]

There are enough videos about it

[@HappyGM-R]

If you think speed is all that matters then you are clearly not educated enough to rate a train system’s efficiency nor effectiveness

[@beauthestdane]

Here in the US we mostly struggle with low speed trains. There are some high speed, but not many at all. It's really pretty sad.

[@Djamonja]

It really only makes sense in the NE part of the US and the NW corridor between Portland/Seattle/Vancouver, and it would cost hundreds of billions of dollars.

[@cynthiaherbst3909]

​@@Djamonja oddly enough you would think Texas would seriously consider high speed rail connecting its major cities especially along the gulf coast, but given their track record for dealing with natural disasters....yeah

[@Djamonja]

@@cynthiaherbst3909 Yea, that's a good point

[@JoeHamelin]

@@cynthiaherbst3909 Or keeping the power on.

[@doujinflip]

Practically all of America's current intercity track is designed for heavier freight, and is often congested with much more profitable cargo trains. So while rail in the US is still old and slow, it's paid itself off many times over and continues to generate money.

[@hslee7253]

I just came back from Shanghi... For experience, I tried this train from Shanghai CBD to Pudong International Airport, a distance of some 30 kilometres. It took us 7/8 minutes to reach the airport with a maximum speed of 300km/hr. When I querried about the speed, I was told that the short distance and the track runs through the city centre, it was cap at the speed . Nonetheless, I was told that they are planning a connection to Beijing and travel time can be btw 4-5 hours! What would happening to inter-city avaition then?

[@sdssdsaia9041]

Shanghai to beijing is 4hrs in HSR, and it is operating for years.

[@Birdofgreen]

I love how the first recommended video on this is your 6 month old video about why mag-lev always fails. The one that goes in depth about how bad the Chinese ones are from a maintenance perspective and how insanely much more they cost per mile for fairly minor increases in speed over traditional high speed rail. Funny that.

[@John_259]

It's important to remember that in China the purpose of public services (energy, health, roads, parks, public transport, etc) is to serve the public, not to make a profit.

[@takuan650]

The real profit is made by corrupt conduct.

[@MGZetta]

@@takuan650 You wish your government corruption leads you into using free healthcare, library, brand new subways, and other public transports. Or they're so corrupt that they give you money as well as free electricity for letting them use your roof for solar panels.

[@AndrewManook]

@@takuan650 Again, this isn't america

[@The_king567]

It shouldn’t be that way

[@The_king567]

@@AndrewManookyou mean the world crazy how delusional you people are

[@Js16108]

Got a beer and a sandwich ready for this, perfect timing

[@eltonbritt1502]

China doesn't have to fund countless wars. Instead,they use their money on important things that actually help their people.👍

[@YandereDevSings]

lol you really acting like China is innocent? Why don’t they give back Tibet lol then we can start talking

[@eat_ze_bugs]

​@@YandereDevSings Lol that's like telling the US to return Hawaii back to the Hawaiian Kingdom.

[@bnbface1627]

​@@YandereDevSingsthere's nothing wrong with different ethnicities living in one country

[@marley7868]

@@bnbface1627 when you actively attemmpt to destroy local speach and culture you don't believe that

[@marley7868]

@@eat_ze_bugs no it's completly different the usa intervened in a massive sh*t show the local monarch failed to anything about for 2 generations the usa intervened to stop the violence they surrendered the country then we held a vote noone has ever questioned the legitmacy of and they asked to join tibet doesn't want china and chinas actions in tibet prove this

[@matthew9933]

Footage at 0:36 seems to be showing Japan, the cars in the background are running on right hand drive roads, and the freight yard has very typical JR Freight colouring.

[@james_l4337]

That's in China. The roads & small high rise. 0:36 is an average small train station. All those are HSR train, there's even larger size with more higher speed HSR then that e.g. Wuhan HSR station is 5x size, with 5x train there's in 0:36 Japan don't have such

[@user-s45c]

@@james_l4337 No, it is not. This is the Tokaido Shinkansen rail yard owned by JR Tokai, called Torikai Rail Yard, located in Osaka, Japan. I went on a factory tour there when I was in primary school.

[@james_l4337]

Megaprojects channel did use Japan maglev in few of the frames but that is very easily recognised as Japan's 603km maglev is very unique in design look I check what you said. You are the expect here and it seems after some checks you are correct 😅👍

[@james_l4337]

Sorry you are correct 0:36 is Torikai Railroad Depot in Japan. My bad, apologies for my unknowledgeable rant 😅

[@douglasengle2704]

Maglevs being an entirely new track technology should take the opportunity to be about double the loading gauge of current trains such as about 8 meters wide. The 1840s dual track British railroads were designed to occasionally have double width carriages running on the inner rails of the two tracks. This would open up the ability to transfer large cargo over land. The super train concepts of prewar WW2 Germany and post WW2 soviet union were at least double the loading gauge of the current trains. An 8 meter wide interior would allow the first level to hold typical motor cars perpendicular while possibly not being continues between the passenger train cars. The stability of being 8 meters wide would allow three levels with the top two levels being continues between the cars, quiet and allowing great comfort. Passenger trains could more comfortably hold 4 times the number of passengers in the same linear space as todays trains keeping passenger trains from stretching out many city blocks.

[@MoonMage67]

any video that mentions hyperloop unironically is automatically in the pure bullshit list.

[@TrogdorBurnin8or]

Elon Musk didn't invent evacuated tube transport, it's a century-old dream. I'm not sure it will ever be practical on Earth because of the exigencies of large pressure vessels, but a distant cousin, aerodynamic tube transport ("Just fill the tubes with hydrogen at STP and drag drops to almost nothing") appears to be much less challenging.

[@Notsogoodguitarguy]

@@TrogdorBurnin8or ummmm, so instead of the risk of an implosion from vacuum, you want to put the most difficult to contain and one of the most explosive elements in the tube? I dunno who made that proposition, but it wasn't a very smart person. Also, there's a reason tube transport is never gonna take off - imagine how difficult and expensive it is to build a tunnel. Now, make it a little less expensive, say by 50% for a unit of distance, then scale that 300-400-500 times. That's what the "much less challenging" tube transport is going to be. Also also, yeah, Musk didn't invent the Hyperloop. He just took a retarded idea that only works in sci-fi and said why not make a money-burning party out of it.

[@simonlb24]

China's high speed rail has had a number of major accidents due to lack of maintenance but the state media puts a block on any reporting so even within China the majority of people never hear about these. As for developing maglev, it makes sense for China to do this so that they can sell the technology to other countries and tie them in to long-term contracts. This all seems plausible so we'll just have to wait and see. Then Hyperloop was mentioned. FFS. A 100-year-old science fiction concept co-opted by Musk as a wet dream and then graciously open sourced for us all. The sooner that entire idea is buried the better.

[@ex0duzz]

And why is that? Because it's not economically feasible or profitable for a private company or government? Neither is chinas high speed rail network in general, yet it still got built and is still being expanded, and more faster systems are being researched and built. So while it may be bs for the west or any other country, China is not just any other country. China not only has the economy but also the will and the system which allows it to invest and build such mega projects that do not generate profit on their own. It's like saying roads shouldn't be built since they aren't profitable and the government isn't charging a toll fee for every road. Or saying we shouldn't have police or fire services if they aren't profitable. Some things are just necessary for society and even if not directly profitable in and of itself, it will generate profit and savings many times over in other parts of the economy.. like cheaper, cleaner, safer, transportation costs in general, and saving time which is also a massive cost in itself. It also links up cities provinces like they were cities or suburbs.. basically creating whole new markets in itself where there would not normally be one since before the high speed rail connections, the time and distance involved to travel between cities/provinces would be too great. For example.. with a 350km/hr train, someone living 350km away from a city could theoretically find a job 350km away from where he lives and it would only take him 1 hour of train travel to get to work. Or 175km away and only 30 min to get to work and 30 min back home. It increases your mobility and feasible daily travel range greatly. Who cares if train itself isn't making money or profit. The cities and related industries will make it back 100 times over in terms of productivity alone. Also, even if the hyperloop is not feasible currently for mass adoption/rollout, just like the Shanghai maglev was only built over 40km and only one line back in the day, it is still worth it for research and development of world leading technologies which could have applications in many other industries or ideas other than hyper loop or human transport. It could also be put on hold while other technology is developed and then 20-30 years from now, China will deem it viable just like the 600km/hr magleg system is now viable and being built when it originally was restricted to just one 40km line in Shanghai from the airport to the city.

[@TrogdorBurnin8or]

@@ex0duzz Exactly. Don't forget that most of American GDP is currently tied up in a deadweight loss, "The real estate investment system", an asset bubble which replaces useful investment in future growth with artificial scarcity of a legally constrained market, whose peculiarities and imposed limitations are so extreme that they have rendered it unwise for recent generations to ever have children. Under the depredations of housing scarcity, it sure looks handy to just be able to increase by 20x the amount of land area it's feasible for a given employment position to commute to.

[@KevinT3141]

It's amazing what you can do when you just suck it up and spend the money.

[@Bob_Smith19]

I see you aren’t aware of China’s massive debt issues.

[@KevinT3141]

@@Bob_Smith19 Lol, who hasn't got those?

[@brentonherbert7775]

@@KevinT3141 People who dont use slave labour? People who pay their workers? People who hold their goverment accountable for over spending? People in the free world?

[@marsaeolus9248]

@@brentonherbert7775 CIA bot?

[@subasthapa8323]

​@@brentonherbert7775bot strikes again

[@dougwalker4944]

"Soon to be obsolete." PRICELESS!!!🙏 You, too, will be replaced...

[@fredrik3685]

But Elon has dug a 2700 meter long one-way, one-lane, tiny tunnel in Las-Vegas. There are Tesla taxis with cab drivers that can take you on a trip at a speed of 56 km/h. You cannot find that in China! 😂

[@stewartclarke3252]

The Shanghai maglev is incorrectly called very expensive, because of the extra and longer piles required for the track as it was mostly built on swamp land and delta plain silt. They got that sinking feeling after a few piles were placed. It did cost extra, but not because of the technology

[@stevelee5724]

Gday Whistler.

[@eugeopoliticspodcast]

Good

[@unassumingaccount395]

Seriously, we’re really still assuming hyperloops make sense?

[@hedlund]

No. It never once did. If Muskrat were _actually_ possessed of any engineering chops he'd have seen it long ago, too.

[@smoke5985]

the chinese version definitely does.

[@andymouse]

This isn't Hyperloop, this works and will continue to evolve whereas Musk's folly will continue to rust away as he realizes that the engineers who worked it all out 100 years ago knew this was a bad idea.

[@undertow2142]

If we had the ability to cheaply dig tunnels hyper loop would be viable. Above ground in steel tubes is really dumb.

[@unassumingaccount395]

@@undertow2142 It's still a dumb idea regardless, you won't be reaching any of the fast speeds throughout the ride without having really low curve radii! Thats partially the reason the Chuo Shinkansen (Maglev) is so expensive, it has to dig through entire tunnels to be able to ride 500km+ entirely, instead of being able to like skirt through with turns that the traditional Shinkansen trains can.

[@dewfend]

There is another massive project going on in China: building big power bank with two artificial lakes at two levels, when there is electricity overproduction, lift the water from low to high, when electricity is needed, release water from high to low. Basically it works as buffer for electricity production by solar. Now the solar electricity are not put on the network. There are around 20 projects going on, after being built, I guess all solar electricity will be connected to the network, the percentage of green electricity will increase a lot by that time. In 2/3 years.

[@generalparker8889]

This method is limited by the terrain. At the same time, China is also building compressed air energy storage projects, which compress air and store energy when electricity is abundant, and release energy during peak electricity consumption.

[@KingKongWorld]

10:38 this man can speak perfectly Chinese for 5 seconds straight. Very good peformance 🤣🤣🤣

[@TheRahsoft]

dont see how they would go maglev. the cost per km is extortionate, hence they chose to create the network over the extra speed. the maglev in shanghai is nice although its only to the airport

[@MGZetta]

did you not watch the video? the main reason is speed and maintenance. there is no friction.

[@TheRahsoft]

@@MGZetta yes i watched it, I also watched several previous videos over the years which explained the cost per kkm was too high and china prioritised coverage over speed. even my chinese collegaue confirmed this.. the other issue with going maglev is that you need a long more straight track that using conventional high speed

[@brentonherbert7775]

@@MGZetta Just a lot of energy... And a high investment cost. And... what good is speed when you need to slow down when going through cities anyway? Trucks for example CAN go over 200kph.... doesnt change the fact they dont though for a number of PRACTICAL reasons. China as usual is being "look at us we so cool!" thinking they are as the west looks on like "you idiots"

[@Souchirouu]

It is amazing what we can achieve when people, industry and government work together to get stuff done. It also shows what can be done when you don't spend close to a trillion dollar on war and instead use that money to educated and build amazing things that actually benefit your people and the economy at large for generations to come.

[@watcherit1311]

Announcements and empty promises are not an achievement. Come back with this comment when this project and work is actually done.

[@GiorniVenibato]

@@watcherit1311did you even watch this video??? You sound so ignorant!!!😂

[@AkiraHongo]

But China do have a large military budget?

[@watcherit1311]

@@GiorniVenibato care to specify where this video mentions that this project is something more than announcements and publicity demos? You know, signs that stuff is actually done and not just promised.

[@hg2.]

Long-distance mag-levs aren't for making cost-benefit sense. They are for the bribes, boondoggle, and bragging-rights of the evil CCP. (This comment will get deleted by pro-CCP censors.)

[@martinda7446]

Britain mid 60s to mid 70s where this technology was pioneered by professor Eric Laithwaite. Look at his films which some have survived here on KZbin, the guy is a legend.

[@chingtuckmeng1122]

self hype

[@georgegonzalez2476]

Unfortunately he got very dotty in his later years and started pushing all kinds of pseudo-science with spinning gyroscopes and such. But Brits are too polite to shoo him off the stage.

[@martinda7446]

@@georgegonzalez2476 he thought he discovered anti gravity... I still think he is wonderful. In fact because he was a bit nutty makes me like him more.

[@greghodges2116]

My big question on maglev technology is safety... are people with pacemakers safe to ride? Could obstructions cling to the rails? What risks do maintenance staff face? How much power is required to run the entire thing? I presume these issues have solutions since there are maglev lines already in commercial use.

[@AgonxOC]

You need to clarify what you meant by transmission in a diesel powered train! Most Diesel trains are what is called Diesel-Electric and there is no transmission unless you meant power transmission to the wheels via electric cables as the motors seat in the trucks (bogies) of the locomotive.

[@bobrenner7213]

Here is an old report about Japan's MAGLEV: "Oct 31, 2017 · The new Japanese maglev became the fastest train in the world after traveling at 374 miles per hour (603 kilometers per hour) on a test run near Mount Fuji last." When we were touring in Japan in 2020, we saw the high-speed MAGLEV but elected to use the 1/2 speed at about 1/4th the cost.

[@matsv201]

You can't "use' the maglev in Japan. It's not open to the public yet.

[@onetwothreefour-s1n]

Just as a test run. Not real service

[@Notsogoodguitarguy]

@@matsv201 if I remember correctly, the train has been used commercially on and off for about....25 years I believe. They're just battling it out with a prefecture to let them pass and connect to a bigger region.

[@TheNewGreenIsBlue]

@@Notsogoodguitarguy not really "commercially" as much as they offered rides to the public for a while. It doesn't GO anywhere at the moment, but they have taken on passengers.

[@pbworld7858]

They haven't even secured all the land for the maglev they're building now. One prefecture is holding out. And I shudder to think what the prices of the tickets will be.

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

On August 11, 2006, at 14:40, a Maglev train compartment caught fire after leaving Pudong International Airport. There were no injuries or fatalities aboard. Electrical problems caused the fire according to investigation reports. On 14 February 2016, the Shanghai maglev line had an equipment failure that affected operation for more than 1 hour. Due to the use of single-line operation during this time, the train interval was extended.

[@matsv201]

"Electrical problem" The worker could not understand the manual thar was written in English. Used Google translate and installed it not corect.

[@hedlund]

@@matsv201 Ah, so a management problem in actuality. What a shocker.

[@daweilaotou1269]

Meanwhile, in other countries with slow-arse trains, derailments, crashes at crossings, deaths ...

[@icebaby6714]

An incident every 10 years is amazing knowing Amtrak is having average 4500 derailments in the US per year.

[@Souchirouu]

Whenever we talk about megaprojects like this it is critical to remember that the amount of money doesn't really matter. Which is kinda true for all off the economy as the thing that has true value is what is created in the real world. So a project like this isn't nearly as expensive as it might look it just takes a lot of labor, resources and time and at point it becomes more a question of lost opportunity elsewhere than the cost of a project. Not realizing this and not accounting for this in planning and budget is a big part of the reason why China is kicking everyone's ass when it comes to projects of any type.

[@lcg3092]

The thing is that goes against how liberal ideology view the economy, and that's the dominating ideology on the west.

[@Mrbarmitsoulo]

​@@lcg3092not only that but they view money as something "scarce". As the guy above commented. Resources are scarce. Money is not. Taxes do not fund any federal budget of any government that issues its own currency. Taxes are there to stimulate the demand for a currency and for "inequality" purposes. "Unemployment" of resources or people and austerity are a neoliberal choice.

[@eddie4324]

There are many things I love about Britain, public infrastructure is not one of them😢

[@0.0LEE-n8i]

I am from China. As far as I know, China has no plans to build maglev lines. Currently, China has two high-speed maglev trains released by CRRC and Southwest Jiaotong University. The maglev train of Southwest Jiaotong University is the second one developed in China. The high-speed maglev train is also the world's first maglev engineering prototype using high-temperature superconducting technology. The current situation is that CRRC and other construction companies want to promote maglev construction and conduct demonstrations and promotions across the country. I saw the news two days ago, but the central government does not want to do so. It may be because of the high cost. It is currently lobbying.stage. Moreover, China has completed all tests of the Fuxing CR450 last year and may soon adopt this new high-speed train with a commercial operating speed of 400km/h to replace the old first-generation Harmony high-speed train. Therefore, the high-speed maglev construction plan will not be realized in the short term. . ...

[@iwannaseesnow]

yea, you are chinese who born and live in USA, native mainland china don't access youtube and their english is limited!

[@akhilghag5898]

Wuhan virus

[@19447427]

@@iwannaseesnow lotta of us can access it, anyway most western media just full of anti china shxt which doesnt make any sence so we dont care about it too much, n most young ppl understand this language anyway

[@Mysterious_Person.87]

​@@iwannaseesnow We have Vpn

[@Mysterious_Person.87]

​@@iwannaseesnow and KZbin in China is not completely ban

[@ofthenearfuture]

Hopefully due to the serious safety ramifications of high speed trains China actually upholds some kind of building code, and this infrastructure doesn't fall apart spectacularly like some of their other megaprojects and large scale constructions.

[@michalandrejmolnar3715]

Which ones?

[@ocularpatdown]

Building code? Oh, my sweet summer child….