A Closer Look At ULA’s Booster Anomaly On Vulcan's Second Launch

[@Nowhereman10]

The performance of BE-4 today gives me a lot more confidence that New Glenn's first flight will be successful, regardless of stage recovery.

[@mathewferstl7042]

you know, most engines perform as expected by the time they're being used on a flight vehicles... that's only a spacex thing

[@Hungary_0987]

​@@mathewferstl7042spacex is still developing both. Stop shitting on them For nothing.

[@i-love-space390]

@@mathewferstl7042 But Blue is trying to jump a few generations in one new vehicle. They intend to try to recover the booster on the maiden flight. They may not make it, since SpaceX needed a few tries to get it, but then again, BO has a real advantage by watching SpaceX's development process.

[@mathewferstl7042]

@@i-love-space390 and that has what to do with the engine?

[@MrEd2291]

Thanks for the timely brief report.

[@JohnnyWednesday]

When a rocket decides it wants an extra staging event

[@MrEd2291]

We will see if the government has as many restrictions on a certification flight as it does on SpaceX's experimentation flights.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

Do you actually understand the FAA's issues and why they might not apply to the flight of Vulcan? I'm betting not.

[@reginaldorossi9774]

ty 4 your time

[@gregfuller2185]

Looks like we need an in-depth FAA investigation....

[@davidstevenson9517]

What ELSE will happen, Greg? An FAA investigation to any variation or mishap is "Standard Operating Procedure" (do you know what that means?). FAA investigations are "fine" by every Aerospace Corporation... except SpaceX i.e. Elon Musk. (A monopolist who is currently licking the "you-know-what', of someone he hopes, will be the next US President i.e. "be in Musks pocket")

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

@@davidstevenson9517 Do you even know what defines a mishap? You're an ignorant fool and likely always have been and always will be.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

I don't see any reason for the FAA to get involved. Then again unlike most of you I seem to have some idea of what the FAA does. You certainly don't.

[@Rocket_scientist_88]

Lol no, this isn’t an FAA issue. Too many armchair rocket scientists around… 😂😂😂

[@codeblocks4067]

FAA better ground em, can't play favorites. That nozzle could've killed several turtles.

[@engineeringoyster6243]

I think that the anomaly started about when they cleared the tower.

[@Rocket_scientist_88]

Why do you think that? There doesn’t appear to be any issues until after T+30 seconds.

[@engineeringoyster6243]

@@Rocket_scientist_88 I see a small number of sparks ejecting about when the rocket clears the tower. Not that I think the tower had anything to do with it. But maybe the seal between the nozzle assembly and the rest of the rocket was breached at that time.

[@philippostiglione2011]

ULA is lucky.

[@Rocket_scientist_88]

They are also VERY good at what they do. Maybe that had more to do with it…

[@kuckoo9036]

Eagerly awaiting the FAA's swift grounding of ULA's Vulcan pending an investigation on the SRB anomaly. 🤣

[@plainText384]

It'll be interesting to see if ULA and Northrop Grumman will manage to complete the investigation and rectify any issues in time to launch one or both of the NSSF missions planned for 2024.

[@sycove1]

FAA have announced an investigation

[@geesehoward700]

you know the FAA dont just exist to be an excuse for spacex right?

[@Scaliad]

​@@sycove1It'll be expedited, I'm sure...

[@mathewferstl7042]

(spacex grounded themselves before the FAA told them to), you also only need to ground the vehicle if it's going to be launching again within the time span that an investigation will take place, the vulcans launch cadence is not high enough to justify that... Another ill informed spacex fanboy

[@uuzd4s]

Bruno didn't have the gonads to admit it, but they got Real Lucky that SRB Nozzle didn't explode inboard & damage one of the BE-4's

[@plainText384]

4:58 pretty sure this should be MN, not kN.

[@montiraruba2831]

It looks like the nozzle itself blew off.

[@philippostiglione2011]

Next time the payload will not be a dummy.

[@philippostiglione2011]

The centaur 2nd stage worked fine

[@Rocket_scientist_88]

It was flawless as always. 👍🏼

[@WilboBaggins-dm7ub]

Interesting

[@av_kovko]

For the DreamChaser, a different VC4L configuration was used. Anomaly one SRB compensived another three SRB's.

[@mathewferstl7042]

Space Bucket: falcon 9 getting grounded multiple times: I sleep ULA Booster Anomaly: real s**t

[@XCX237]

FAA investigation? Grounding? No certificatiin.

[@mathewferstl7042]

(spacex grounded themselves before the FAA told them to), you also only need to ground the vehicle if it's going to be launching again within the time span that an investigation will take place, the vulcans launch cadence is not high enough to justify that... Another ill informed spacex fanboy

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

Little to no reason for the FAA to get involved. Ground what? There is no flying fleet. Certification comes from the DoD in this case and I doubt they're happy.

[@Rocket_scientist_88]

The FAA has already announced there will be no investigation. Lol this anomaly had all the armchair rocket scientists speed coming out of the woodwork to declare “FAA investigation!!” I wonder how many of those youtube IDs were really elon musk?? 😂😂😂

[@mathewferstl7042]

@@Rocket_scientist_88 ikr

[@PeaceMarauder]

In one of the spark events from the srb, slowed down you can see the nozzle fly off.

[@IrvinWoliver-c6w]

Stacy Dale

[@MongoosePreservationSociety]

So if the same thing happens during the next launch, is that a "problem"?

[@Rocket_scientist_88]

It wasn’t a “problem” this time, so no.

[@kpv8]

I wonder why this time ROFI's weren't used like on the first flight?

[@ARWest-bp4yb]

I'm disappointed that I missed the booster landing!🤣

[@Rocket_scientist_88]

Vulcan’s performance is much higher because it doesn’t have that silliness. It only looks cool to the general public, but carrying the extra weight means the launcher cannot carry as much, or go into hiher orbits, etc. A little more expensive, but Vulcan/Centaur is a better rocket overall. 💯👍🏼

[@hurriedwastaken]

The certification shouldn’t be affected as the part that failed wasn’t theirs. It was a commercial SRM

[@paulpark1170]

its the whole rocket....and it did not wholly pass. Cert 3 needed.

[@cornerpage6634]

@@paulpark1170 The Vulcan comes in configurations with 0,2,4, or 6 SRM. The GEM-63XL SRM has a pretty reliable flight history, but I'm sure its manufacturer will be initiating an investigation. Given that the payload was delivered exactly to its intended orbit, it shouldn't be a big deal, but the DoD will have its own say as to whether or not to accept the cert2 flight.

[@paulpark1170]

@@cornerpage6634 if that was a real payload weighing many tons… it would not have made it to orbit despite all the extra burns it made.

[@cornerpage6634]

@@paulpark1170 I believe Tory said specifically they would have had the margin regardless. *shrug*

[@Rocket_scientist_88]

⁠​⁠@@paulpark1170Do you understand what a “mass simulator” is or a “dummy payload”? It is the same size and weight as a typical payload. So, your statement is absolutely wrong - this was the same as if a “real payload”

[@philippostiglione2011]

FAA should look hard at Vulcan's solid rocket boosters !

[@PeaceMarauder]

Ah, all I had to do is check your youtube and page to get you to post again :P

[@paulpark1170]

If this is a success as Tory Bruno is claiming, then I've got Starliner ready to go to ISS today.

[@Rocket_scientist_88]

How did you get control of Starliner’s launch readiness? That’s some responsibility.

[@EarlBlake]

Only the GEMs should be grounded until an investigation is finished.

[@philippostiglione2011]

I would not certify yet!

[@philippostiglione2011]

Spaceforce might need another horse 🐎

[@Rocket_scientist_88]

Nope, they have the champion right here. 🏆

[@moose1556]

This would not be a safety issue as far as theFAA is concerned. It doesn’t have Elon Musk’s name on it nor is it linked to the Republican Party. 2 requirements for a safety issue to the American public and our precious environment. I guess the US military never has exercises that are any safety concerns.

[@geesehoward700]

maybe ULA should get bailed out by Russian oligarchs as well, and turn ULA into a right wing propaganda machine.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

Actually there are REAL reasons it's not an FAA concern but I do love the nonsense you made up and and believe. I guess if ignorance is all you have got, making things up is all you can do. What a fool you make of yourself trying to pretend.

[@Rocket_scientist_88]

@@TheEvilmooseofdoom👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼 Nailed it, well put. 💯

[@RichardShelton]

Tory Bruno reminds me of a used car salesman. I don't trust either one.

[@cornerpage6634]

Tory Bruno seems like good people from everything I've observed over the years, but ymmv.

[@Rocket_scientist_88]

And elon musk is a “really great guy”? Okayyyyyy… 🥴

[@NCPapa]

Well you better ground them.

[@chrisborey1734]

Still using SRBS? They just got lucky. Main engines burn longer.

[@av_kovko]

Dreamchaser mission was be shorted. The fuel supply would be used to compensate for the altitude of the orbit, and there would be little fuel left for de-orbiting.

[@Rocket_scientist_88]

Nope, you’re dead wrong. I already answered this somewhere else in this thread, not copy/pasting it again.

[@montiraruba2831]

If they did a static test on the booster rocket before it was mounted on the launch vehicle they would have found out why the anomaly.

[@cornerpage6634]

The booster is a solid rocket. They can only be started once and run to completion no matter what. So you can't static test the flight article.

[@Southwest_Trailblazers]

The SRB’s were made with DEI hires? Let’s find out more.

[@c.j.g.6913]

1.) FAA Investigation 2.) call Elon for advice!

[@violety_indigo52]

3.) Stop treating this whole thing like a football club rivalry, fanboy.

[@c.j.g.6913]

@@violety_indigo52stop your whining mom!

[@Rocket_scientist_88]

Why would ULA call elon for advice? It’s the other way around - ULA has been doing this as ULA and before that as Lockheed Martin and Boeing far longer than elon’s company. And ULA knows exactly what to do, not elon. He doesn’t understand the details, just the business. And I agree with the above comment, this isn’t a football rivalry. Oh, also - the FAA has announced there will be no investigation. 👍🏼 I also don’t see why there would be… Northrup Grumman will conduct its own investigation, and that will be enough.

[@c.j.g.6913]

@@Rocket_scientist_88 Hmmmm it appears that SpaceX holds records for successful launches and recoveries. So ok whatever you say then! You must work for the government!