A COMPLETE Guide to Jade! | Relics, Best Build, Teams

[@guobacertified]

What are your thoughts on Jade? Are ya pulling? JADEL ISNT REAL OKAY ITS JADE, JADEL IS A MYTH

[@seraphii72]

jades 4 jade 😤

[@edisonsmathsclub5787]

OH MY GOD I AM DEFINITELY PULLING LETS GOOO GUOBA!!!

[@stevecrafter518]

Who’s this Jadel character, they seem cool

[@Kagetora-]

I already pulled the unit I wanted the most already which was Firefly (along with RM) so I won't be pulling for Jade. But I do wish that the people who are rolling for her the best of luck.

[@IceNInja42]

Another member of my Stoneheart collection, cant wait to use her with blade

[@char1194]

Trading 25,000 Stellar Jades for one Jade of the non-stellar variety doesnt seem too fair tbh, but I guess she's the merchant and not me

[@guobacertified]

this maths needs to be studied

[@owo4470]

Well, u can earn 25000 stellar jade's, but you can only get one jade Supply and demand kekw

[@kdar4351]

You could say, 1 IPC Jade is worth 25,000 Stellar Jade in cosmic value

[@metalforge6915]

​@@owo4470e6 begs to differ

[@descendo24]

@@owo4470well, i could get infinite jades

[@АнатолийКнязьков-р6я]

What is my purpose - You buff Blade - Oh my God

[@leedevee]

😂 Poor Bladie. One of the best designs in the game, such pitiable dps. I still use him now and then, have quite a sick build and all his favorite supports. But yeah, Blade…

[@BoothillsWifey]

​@@leedevee same,they should just put a character with the same/ similar kit as furina from genshin in the game omfg

[@justlivinglife6315]

Rick and morty reference, love it

[@wingofshu]

​@@leedevee the "problem" is the different scaling and other small details

[@LeaksHater]

Haha good one

[@tysonvienneau1830]

It's refreshing to have a character who is okay with not getting speed stats for once. Meaning the 15 thousand attack boots have a use for once

[@T8-TR]

Acheron can use those too, iirc.

[@ziyu1092]

Sparkle says Hi

[@Assassin21BEKA]

We have it for several months already, are you living under a rock?

[@bootstrap925]

@@Assassin21BEKA yeah, if you love farming for good speed substats on top of crit stats lol

[@milodiin]

Seele, Jing Yuan, Clara, Robin, Acheron, even Himeko/Herta if you're running a pure follow up build all want atk boots instead of speed, we definitely have a bunch of units like that already

[@jpegwarrior5431]

E1 Jade with Dr. Ratio to provide 6 charges a turn sounds like a Swarm Disaster dream come true.

[@anthony-simetri]

JP HTB: DREAM COME TRUE

[@firmanang9132]

back to the Duke mines i guess

[@RRQKIPASANGIN]

Afraid I'll still be stuck in the Quantum cavern. It's been a year since I've seen the lights, my supports, my bronya she's using Spd Quantum boots

[@gedemartha9534]

Take a shot everytime Guoba mentions Jade

[@guobacertified]

Aware

[@ukenjip5682]

I love the Guoba designs

[@edisonsmathsclub5787]

AT LONG LAST MY IPC QUEEN AS ARRIVED!!! FOR PRESERVATION

[@guobacertified]

FOR THE AMBER LORD

[@someguy1ification]

It is time to harvest.

[@1gniel]

More like for Voracity...

[@nfu2174]

Midass Jade, amirite

[@adrianstv340]

AHHH YES MY FAVORITE CHARACTER "JADEL"

[@hanjigbf]

Pulling cuz Mommy, but she also has one of those kits that has so many exploitable gimmicks/mechanics that I feel she can get silly fast in various modes and with various future supports. Easily stacked Follow-up, strong Ult, Blast Basic (Propagation..?), etc. Perfect for my love of clown comps while also instantly-winning PF is a nice mix for my account.

[@farahf.912]

Ah yes, Jadel, one of my favorites

[@dedicatus5453]

I really think E1 Jade with Topaz as debt collector is lowkey lore accurate but especially quirky, in a FUA centric team (Topaz-Jade-Aven-Robin), Numby surely can still have high frequency of attacks abusing that Jade E1 and having FUA galore.

[@danish2.012]

E1 jade topaz robin and aven will be very fun and chaotic since numby attacks very frequently thanks to her IPC colleagues

[@aaronscott7467]

​@@danish2.012and even more so if you get her to e4 since she has the built in advance

[@dedicatus5453]

@@aaronscott7467 ngl this why I kinda wish E1 Topaz was her current E4, i might not get big numbers but its more appealing to see and play

[@talkingcowthatwasthereallalong]

I didn't want to break my HSR negativity streak but... they got me cow sees follow-up => neuron activation

[@Kurt_52]

E1 Jade + E4 Bronya. Crazy fast basic attack spam that gives 6 charges each time.

[@gazakana]

One of the Best designed kits not gonna lie You can say that because traditional carrys or sub dps usually don't have the potential to have so many bonkers teams with actual sinergy

[@Pachirisu2024]

Thats actually a sick combo I have bronya on e3 lets hope I Lose my next 50/50 to her 😂

[@leandroTRA]

don't forget satisfying rifle sounds. just missing a M1 ping

[@mailcs06]

Gun.

[@shira3353]

a team worth mentioning as well for jade hypercarry is jade robin gallagher bronya, im surprised not many people mentioned this comp (i did not invent this team, im just sharing this comp as i saw some less popular TCs theorycrafted to be very effective in moc which i also find to be true) jade as usual atk boots slow build robin standard build gallagher quid pro quo 160+ spd after receiving jade buff bronya 160+ spd and -1 spd set up with gallagher this set up 1 cycled 2.4 moc12 without any quantum weakness present this setup will have gallagher constantly taking turn with bronya speedtuning, gallagher will be providing a significant amount of energy to robin via quid pro quo, and the team is extremely sp positive give this comp a try, whoever is pulling for jade. im personally gonna skip her but good luck with ur pulls Edit: i forgot to mention this but E1 jade isnt necessary for this comp, but it would be a huge dmg increase if u do get it. jade E1 > S1 always and ya cant rlly change any of the team members either

[@azrulamir71]

I’ve seen that vid as well, can’t wait to try that comp, let’s hope I can get E1 Jade

[@messmass2573]

Interesting 🤔 But I'm not ready to farm those substrat req...

[@nfu2174]

Jade cope lmao, just get Acheron

[@shira3353]

@@nfu2174 dis aint about her

[@khycgregorio53]

Will a team consisting of Blade,Jade,Jingliu and a support work? Cause like this sounds wonky but the blade stack generation in this team is gonna be stonks😂😂

[@nfu2174]

Bricked Jade with her bricked team

[@LeftyPencil]

Unlimited Blade works

[@RRQKIPASANGIN]

Before Dawn finally gets some break

[@bunnys9704]

I wasnt going to pull, but hearing that she works well with Blade, I just might give it a shot. Blade has been so neglected by Hoyo 😢

[@haveagoodday7021]

I'm early early, so here's a fun fact! Jade's real name is Eve. This is referenced with the snake in her splash art and skills. You can even see her sign "Eve" in her skill, but the craziest part about this lore drop, is that I completely made it up, because I love spreading misinfo and causing chaos.

[@masterstylez6960]

History fictionologist right here

[@buzzsawkhan]

Gallagher, we salute you. o7

[@AdamJorgensen]

Got it, I can't afford E1S1 so I should skip the character since I already handle PF fine with my Destruction and DoT teams. Man, Hoyo seem to be trying REALLY hard in this patch to bait people into getting Eidolons. First FF E2 and now this 😕 Honestly, I'm not super happy with it. 2.4 is a no-pull patch for me and 2.5 will probably be the same. With the way Hoyo seem to be going about balance and power-creep as of this patch, it feels like they're telling me to just keep saving Jades and tickets until I can afford E6 on the next big character.

[@cynderrosaliavods8538]

e1 jade legit just lets you build the IPC with herself, topaz, aventurine and ratio

[@whiteglint8191]

I like her design, but the E1 or something similar should have really been part of her base kit. Like if I pull and build a new character I want to be able to use them efficiently in all 3 modes, not just PF every 6 weeks.

[@wyvernmounir530]

I have her E0 , Ik her E1 is op but ig im going for her weapon since I see it op too + i have higher chance to get it than E1 since its 75% what do u think ?

[@leedevee]

Her biggest downside to me: she only shines in PF (at E0) and of the 3 rotating end-game modes, that’s the one that I rarely if ever replay. I like it well enough the first time around, but it takes so long and doesn’t allow for strategic set-ups as much as MoC and AS. She would end up like Argenti on my account: being dusted off every 6(?) weeks to clear content. Pity, because her design is pretty cool.

[@niconilo97]

Hey hey ... Whit Jade E1 .. do i see a Yingxin return ? Couple whit Hanya speed buff Jade speed buff Asta speed ult, relics lightcone etc He can be the speediest little guys !! xD Edit : NVM The 2% Hp consume Kill this combo xD poor yingxin, can't redeem himself Edit Edit : Wait is the consumption of Hp count as dmg dealt and remove Osmose or it does'nt ?

[@Shadowenclave47]

I used up almost all of my Stellar Jades (and probably luck as well lol) on Firefly and Ruan Mei but im really considering trying my luck to pull for Jade cuz mommies and i am struggling HARD in Pure Fiction lol (and yes, i do have Herta built but her alone isn't cutting it for me). The 5* characters i have right now are Acheron + signature lightcone, Jingliu, Aventurine, Firefly, Ruan Mei, free Dr. Ratio, E1 Welt, Bronya and an E1 Bailu (bleh! Wish it was Himeko instead but im still a long way before im able to choose my standard 5* character). Also, i heard that Black Swan is rerunning next patch and i wanted her and Kafka (also because mommies lol) but i started playing right at the end of Kafka's rerun and had to skip Black Swan in order to secure Acheron. Also i heard that DOT teams are also good for Pure Fiction.

[@aggapuffin]

Jade looks really fun and I'd love to pull for her! Too bad all my pulls are gone, sacrificed to Firefly and Ruan Mei.

[@kenjiro6816]

I just caved yesterday and got them both. Now scrambling to get their mats and equipment since I didn't expect to pull for them and didn't grind a single item.

[@coronadispine]

bankruptcy patch.. i eventually caved for e1s1 ruan mei lol

[@Nevio1810]

Hm, Looks Like Additional Dmg could be an upcoming more fleshed out Playstyle...

[@westarrr]

Having to pull an e1 so my blade isn't copium anymore idk if gladge or sadge

[@richardjones8846]

now blade just needs that harmony unit that says "if there is no abundance or preservation units in the team all allies health pools are considered one and max health is increased by 100% for all units" and he'll be a viable character again

[@YourBoySki]

Fun update on my experience with Jade since this video came out, absolutely love her. Ended up getting really lucky getting her E1S1 in 150 pulls so thankfully didn’t have to spend money. But pairing her with Seele, Sparkle and FuXuan has been insanely strong. The 30 speed on Seele is super helpful, so much so I’m now farming Glamoth Orb set since I can hit the 160 speed for pretty much free. Also being E1 having a sparkle boosted, jade boosted, fu Xuan boosted Seele means I’m generally getting no less than 6 jade stacks a turn. Gotta say loving this character for my account.

[@sf9746]

Poor jing yuan.. i thought he would pair well with her..

[@leandroTRA]

excuse me while I go try 200% break EFF + crit rate jade with HMC + Ruan mei for giggles

[@HachannEinzbern]

I was gonna pull for Jade anyway because i'm an IPC fan, but damn her kit is good, plus i struggle with PF the most out of the endgame modes, and she would be nice to have

[@eri_sister_of_aerial]

I literally pulled today for fun at 15th pull on banner (was trying to get e1 firefly but not enough pulls ;-;) and I uh got her while winning the 50/50...so yay lol. She is fun

[@viviansytsui]

I've been really suffering in Pure Fiction so she's definitely a must pull for me!

[@andysabur4966]

want her so bad, but already got rm and her lc within 100 pulls. wait for me, i'll get you in a rerun

[@thomasgareaubaritone627]

It’s a bit sad that she needs her E1 to work with the other follow-up-team members (topaz, ratio, aventurine). But I can definitely imagine some good combos once she has the E1. It feels like Topaz/Jade e1 was meant to be.

[@mauidemigodpw7162]

Omg the jade costume be slaying love the video info

[@heirelentiya6518]

Im kinda sad, all my investment is into the dot mommies, acheron, and their respective required teammates. Maybe Ill try Jade with Xueyi outside of PF.

[@wyvernmounir530]

It's weird people considers blade weak character

[@ockertliebenberg9879]

dream team finally posible now ARLAN JADE

[@glimmermoth9307]

Im still not sure if I'll pull for her. Decided to save my guarantee instead of getting e2 firefly and I always said I'd collect every quantum character. Just not sure if pulling her simply for my herta provides enough value

[@xQuote]

Any thoughts on Jade's lightcone on other characters?

[@HikariDroflum]

Can't pull for Jade~ Still working on E1 Firefly! So unless I get really lucky, I'll have to pick her up on her rerun~

[@DarkShadowOblivion]

Legitimately I think Sparkle/FX will be the best support side for the Jade/Blade duo.

[@mint3839]

Should I pull her lightcone for my Jing Yuan?

[@babygeige]

If she were good in more than PF at E0, I'd definitely think about it because Blade and Jade team looks like a lot of fun. But I don't think I can justify getting her only for one mode.

[@DragonHalo3D]

whoah so jade is the start of the health consumption meta. didn't expect this. once all the pieces for that team are out, i think there will officially be a strong, viable team for each playstyle

[@GodammitNappa]

honsetly surprised I am not seeing blade, sparkle, lynx, jade for the sparkle atk team boost and the HP bonus and focused taunt that lynx gives to blade too.

[@Hiya8partyz]

If I had a wallet, that shiny e1 jade would be used for the ultimate team: Jade-Lu.

[@danielpollack7442]

How does her light cone seem to work on Jing Yuan? It seems like it’ll be pretty easy to stack the FUA buff if running him with Sparkle.

[@oicmorez4129]

Is there a chance for Wind Set Argenti to be a good paring with his constant "skill ult skill ult"?

[@guobacertified]

I mean he’s already goated with her, but yeah wind set goes a step further if you want to minmax turns and charges

[@yurimiracle7768]

I think I should get Jade since I don't have Himeko and suffering in PF

[@auro8236]

Jade E1 looks really fun. Might get it on her re-run

[@staycakey]

Here before Jadel gets changed to Jade

[@guobacertified]

jadel gang

[@comboyote]

I’m very excited for Jade here! Going to go for signature and pair her with blade - yes ill have to retune bronya but im excited to see an AOE follow up team pop off.

[@SpicytunaMakiii]

Doesn't appeal too much for me so imma skip. Good luck for all Jade pullers tho!

[@SurprisedCompass-gf2um]

Still pulling for argenti

[@Julia_Lopez]

i wonder if her technique also nullifies the alert state on trotters keeping them from running away…. 👀

[@endwarAH80blackfoot]

I originally wanted to get Jade sjnce she would mesh very well with my FUA team. Salty that I missed Aventurine since I lost my jades for Acheron. Then I keep hearing that Black Swan might rerun in the next update. Suddenly all my plans crumbled😢. Deciding between Jade with Black Swan. Black Swan definitely has the higher priority.

[@leedevee]

I highly second this. BS works in all content. She shines in PF and is amazing in MoC too. Jade will be stuck in the PF mines, probably for ever…

[@gazakana]

My personal opinion is that black swan doesn't have the same value as jade from a meta perspective Obviously she is good in pure fiction but she doesn't have that sinergy with broken ass PF characters like Herta and himeko, only sinergy with Kafka who doesn't have any particular kit elements for PF In MoC jade at E0 is not awesome but surprisingly Kafka/black Swain either, their dps in single or double target scenerios is far from reaching any promotional 5* dps optimal team, contrary to what most people usually believe, they are in the same dps treshold as a hypercarry jingyuan/sparkle, this based only on total team dps sheets so if both are relatively mediocre in MoC, I'd take the one that's better in PF, especially with free/better suited characters they have synergy with, aka follow up oriented units but all this is invalid if you like Black Swan more obviously, the really important thing is to collect what you like, all this analysis is only in case you like both equally

[@NinoChapter]

@@leedevee jack of all trades or master of one. take your pick.

[@anthonypablo5012]

When paired with Topaz, does Numby give her charges as well or only Topaz attacking herself?

[@waun11]

Numby gives charges

[@aegrelius]

Wait why isn't jade good with Jing yuan

[@guobacertified]

Not as frequent attack wise

[@aegrelius]

@@guobacertified i would've thought he would be since he has both aoe skill and ult, plus the LL, and you'd build speed on him plus the speed jade gives. Basically argenti with extra aoe follow-up (in terms of getting jade stacks)

[@YourBoySki]

Pulling for her 100%, I have her guaranteed but hopping I squeeze and E1 and/or and S1 in there as well. My entire account is Quantum and Imaginary only so been super excited for another DPS to play with. Pairing her with QQ debt collector and gambling on the blast and follow up for the 6 hits, and it gives me a reason to use QQ Ult more consistently XD

[@dudemetslagroom8065]

HA so i started about 2 weeks ago. I had about 200 pulls but chose to wait until the next banner... until i looked closer at Jade and thought "Y'know what i'm gonna try for Jade, i'll still have plenty left for yunli/Huohuo" Thought it would be a good investment for Pure Fiction... EXCEPT i pulled himeko, which i am also very happy with and now i have my yunli/huohuo guaranteed!

[@LeftyPencil]

Could she be paired with Arlan as he needs time to ramp up is damage? As we have no support to drain hp Nah, this is only for the lols. She eats 2% hp/ his turn while Jingliu eats 4%/attack on the moon. Pair her with blast/AoE units instead

[@PlatinumKrown]

I pulled her pretty easily only like 50 rolls total, and I dropped my salsotto set because I can't find a crit rate body piece for quantum to save my life but the relic grind never seems to end. I also got the erudition lc from the herta shop so that should be ok for now. I wasn't originally going to roll for her, but I wasn't interested in any of the teased characters coming out soon. Curious how long before we get a new planet after the next luofu story.

[@mailcs06]

Was able to clear PF 4 thanks to her (with zero stars but still, her and my herta aren’t very well built but still managed to outperform my rayher well built E1 firefly in PF)

[@tessieract]

I love Jade a lot, but unfortunately a PF-only character isnt very appealing to me, and E1 Jade isnt in my budget rn. MAybe one day I'll go whale on her, but not today.

[@Dragon_Song1]

@guobacertified I know I’m a bit late but, what are the calculations for the relics (duke vs genius) when you factor in the “sig LC” with its def ignore? I wonder this because of def ignore stacking goes crazy.

[@guobacertified]

This is with sig and pela. Duke is really strong for her lol

[@Dragon_Song1]

Dang, 😂 Ok thank you so much. I have an “abundance” of duke pieces so I’m set.

[@hyacxntheVA]

Guoba be looking GORGEOUS in that dress

[@Mr.Heller]

Just dropped a 10 to lose after all the FF winnings to guarantee Sparkle, and got E1 Jade... Might as well build, so here I am.

[@Ein0r10]

The video makes it sounds as if she's more geared towards people who spend money. She just doesn't look that strong if you only have f2p investments for her.

[@Triforce9426]

Jade doesn't really seem to mesh well with the rest of the IPC crew in battles.

[@blooscrn]

i just accidentally got her on 10 pity after doing 1 pull, fk me i hope she is useful cause damn i did NOT want her lol

[@SillehRiver]

Holy moly, quantum mommy soon

[@RailGun256]

As always im pulling, just wont build her fully straight away, dont really have enough synergy characters built to make her viable just yet. need to work on a couple more characters for me to feel good about deploying that type of team to PF or MoC

[@kevingraham4736]

Ez skip for me. Dont need erudition. Dont like hats. Dont care for ipc in general. She seems particularly sus.

[@LovelyWeirdoHB]

Can i has Himeko break build pls? I want her to thrive but i'm stupid

[@IX7jenio]

Oh man! Don't tell me that I have to get the E1 too. I was only thinking on E0 S1 as every other Quantum. I'd like to have money to spend and not depend on luck every time. Maybe someday.

[@ChubbyTheo]

9:23 is that lightcone good for qingque?

[@maggie-pk7500]

Am I crazy or could Sparkle/Jade/Qinque/fuxuan actually be cracked?

[@Nihilore]

i don't pull for meta, any teams that she can work with without Ruan Mei or Robin?

[@snackeetah2627]

It's all good but if PF isn't getting any harder, there's barely a need for Jade. Especially while some other characters (looking at you, game-breaking Firefly) work as monster damage dealers in MoC and AS (and on high levels of DU) AND can go as a 2nd DPS/enabler for PF if you want to bruteforce with Himeko... compared to that, Jade's lacking. A complete overkill for Pure Fiction but that's about it. And Pure Fiction is the easiest endgame mode out of the current three. But if PF will get harder... ugh, HoYo are baiting us again. "Drain your jades to get Jade to then swipe a card for upcoming characters who'll definitely have more overall utility than her. Or don't, and then you might get a difficulty spike in PF lol."

[@Grac01]

Istg every single unit that comes out makes me want to pull for them for their gameplay. I don't like Jade's personality, and her looks do nothing for me (unlike others) so i had zero desire to pull for her. Now im considering it for Blade (i didnt go for sparkle for him) and Argenti (who is my favourite character) but im torn bc i really like the look of Jiaoqiu next patch. If hoyo could stop releasing baller unit after baller unit (gameplay wise) i would be very grateful lmao. Im a bp + express supply pass player, and rationing my stellar jades is becoming increasingly difficult.

[@TheAngelChaz]

Im collecting the stone hearts :) cant wait to try a full follow up team with Jade

[@anthony-simetri]

Same

[@nfu2174]

Jade bricked, fua is better without Jade😂

[@bjornnilsson2941]

Hoyo continuing the trend of IPC follow up characters being P2W 😂 E1S1 Jade looks like quite the monster. That said I find PF to be the hardest endgame mode, it's the only one where I am barely scraping by getting 3 stars every rotation. That's with a highly invested Herta and Himeko usually demolishing one side. So I am somewhat tempted, especially since she works with Blade and I assume Clara. I'm really low on Jades tho, so I basically have a choice between Jade E0S0 or Ruan Mei's E1. I'm leaning towards RM, if I can just get that last 10 pull I need in time!

[@andreww7564]

Eh, she seems neat, but I'm not seeing a compelling argument for E1S1 jade/cash investment to pull for her. The Blade synergy is nice since I have a soft spot for him as my first limited 5 star, but it doesn't seem like a big enough boost for me to actually use him again.

[@pastryserpent]

praying for e1 so i can run topaz jade for lore (also cuz ratio smells bad)

[@joeparas]

If she wasn't so hot it wouldn't even be a question. PF just isn't hard enough. Himeko and Herta handle one side on auto and either Acheron or my DoT team roll the other. Passing again for JiaoQiu. That boy looks special.

[@ReaperKingX878]

Im gonna run her hypercarry with E1 probably. Jade/Bronya/Robin/FX sounds like it should work fine. Definitely pulling regardless though her design is top tier.

[@sirdamned9272]

"I think the weakest of the Erudition combos though is Jing Yuan." Mind expanding on this/explaining why? I planned to use him and Herta (depending on weakness) along with Jade ;_;

[@Mokoodo]

How viable would Sparkle be with Jade? I'm thinking of a Jade/Herta/Sparkle/FuXuan team with Sparkle constantly advancing Jade, which would make her generate stacks faster and boost her follow up damage as well. Plus, Sparkle's trace also boosts Quantum damage!

[@headshotsimon]

I kinda want her just because I have been struggling for a while with pure fiction and she will probably fix this for the lifetime of the entire game. Otherwise meh Idk Im super excited for all those new Xianzhou characters. I hope a new wind dps comes out soon plz

[@tuttel3815]

Blade+Jade+Jing Liu = Unlimited Blade Works Imagine the follow up attack spam. 100 will pull for Jade

[@1701Rafael]

Darling, that Dress looks lovely on you. Just wanted point that out.

[@danielloosjr396]

I don't know if I want her or not, as I have two teams, a break one, and a follow-up one. I don't know if she could replace the free Dr Ratio I got, if so she could potentially make that team strong enough to compete with my Firefly team. I also don't know if I want to get Argenti, because I want Sparkle, and being a player who started not long before Robin released, I don't know how much synergy they have with each other. I am likely to pull for one or the other at least, so with me it is more about who I will pull for, rather than if I pull.

[@Littlee4]

Do you think that milkyway s1 or the herta shop lc s5 will be better for jade in moc (blade team)

[@linobinn]

ahh i hope i win 50/50 on her banner, i farmed 40 pulls for her as an f2p on a tl 68 acc that has most story content cleared😭 i just hope my hard work on swarm disaster is worth it . might become a dolphin if I'm desperate enough lmao