A Confederate Recalls the Vibe Before Pickett's Charge

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Life on the Civil War Research Trail

Life on the Civil War Research Trail

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Charles Minor Blackford is remembered as an officer on Gen. James Longstreet's staff and for his 1894 memoirs, "Life in and Out of the Army in Virginia." But three years earlier he wrote another book, the "Annals of the Lynchburg Home Guard." It tells the story of his hometown company, which became Company G of the 11th Virginia Infantry. Blackford's Gettysburg chapter describes the mood before Pickett's Charge.
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@homesteadgal4143
@homesteadgal4143 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. My great-great grandfather, Pvt. William Patrick Goode, survived Pickett's Charge. He enlisted at 17 years of age, into Company B, 57th Infantry "Franklin Sharpshooters", Virginia Volunteers. in March 1862. By July, he was wounded in the Battle of Malvern Hill. After Pickett's Charge, he was captured and transferred to Fort McHenry, MD then on to Fort Delaware where he spent 23 months until the War ended. Pvt. Goode returned home after the war and married 2 years later. He had 9 children and was a farmer in Lincoln County, WV. After his wife died in 1895, he moved to Virginia and died in 1937. He is buried at Hollywood Cemetery, Richmond, VA, in Pickett's Row. (The Goode/Guth family immigrated from Germany and his forefather came in 1738, into Philadelphia.)
@littlehummingbird1015
@littlehummingbird1015 2 ай бұрын
Fascinating for you to have all that recorded information of a major part of your family. My gg-grandfather had a plantation west of Petersburg and was mustered by General Lee to find food for his troops .....he did the best he could. And while the Feds were chasing after Lee on his way from Petersburg, westward, the Feds stopped at my family's farm house and basically terrorized them....going into the house and getting some dresses of my gg grandmother and putting them on and whooping and hollarging around the front yard....also buring the chicken coop. It was terrifying for their little son , my great grandfather...not a good day at the Crowder homestead!
@ricknorris1466
@ricknorris1466 2 ай бұрын
My GG Grandfather Pvt. Daniel Goode Campbell was In Pickett’s Division and we always assumed that he survived the actual battle. It turned out that he was wounded months before from a cannon concussion and was released for further Military action AFTER Gettysburg. He had spent around a year in the Hospital. Either way my existence depended on his making it through that horrific war. Another GG Grandfather David Longley was in the Union Army. He was a part of the Ohio 111th Regiment and was part of Sherman’s March To The Sea to finish off the Insurrectionists. A portion of his group died of Smallpox before they could complete their mission. Fortunately family members on that side were already in place to make my life possible.
@littlehummingbird1015
@littlehummingbird1015 Ай бұрын
@@ricknorris1466 Interesting that you might not be here but for the good fortunes of your ancestors. By the way, the southerners were not insurrectionists....they were defending their lands and homes from invasion and trying to repel the invaders from their states. You do know, don't you , that each seceding state VOTED to leave what was not yet a union....it was a collection of countries....13 of the originals.
@edwardadams9358
@edwardadams9358 Ай бұрын
@@littlehummingbird1015 Legal arguments can be made but the moral argument is unassailable. They tried to leave the union in defense of slavery.
@RH421939
@RH421939 11 ай бұрын
I was in full scale Pickett’s charge in the 1998 reenactment it was nuts I couldn’t even imagine the real thing
@josephweaver5385
@josephweaver5385 11 ай бұрын
it was a lot uglier!
@scarystories190
@scarystories190 10 ай бұрын
me too
@briandesrochers1360
@briandesrochers1360 10 ай бұрын
I was there too.
@nicholasmuro1742
@nicholasmuro1742 10 ай бұрын
Was it bigger than the movie?
@scarystories190
@scarystories190 10 ай бұрын
I think they told us it was 30k reenactors. I never seen so many blue bellies ever lol. @@nicholasmuro1742
@freddiefreihofer7716
@freddiefreihofer7716 11 ай бұрын
After the war, Pickett was often asked why his famous charge failed. One of his frequent answers was, " I think it had something to do with the Union army".
@BSU55
@BSU55 10 ай бұрын
"That old man, had my division slaughtered". George Pickett's more famous statement, after the War had ended.
@terryhancockroc6560
@terryhancockroc6560 10 ай бұрын
Hancock had a lot to do with it
@LesHaskell
@LesHaskell 7 ай бұрын
Maybe if he hadn't been hiding in the barn with the wounded it might have done a tad better. That's where my cousin John (of Haskell's Battery) found him anyway (mentioned it in his memoirs). John was with Longstreet when Custer came in and demanded his surrender at Appomattox. John thought Custer was a jerk who was full of himself, too.
@neilpemberton5523
@neilpemberton5523 3 ай бұрын
​@@LesHaskell Pickett was a poor general but nothing he could have done would have made much difference. Don't make excuses for Lee. At Malvern Hill the Union guns of Henry Jackson Hunt stopped Lee. A year later the same thing happened at Gettysburg. Lee didn't learn. He thought God was going to win the day. God had other ideas.
@marknewton6984
@marknewton6984 2 ай бұрын
​@@BSU55Pickett hid in a barn during the Charge. He was no Stonewall or Forrest.
@lgude
@lgude 11 ай бұрын
I’ve stood on both sides of this sweeping incline more than once and I’ll say one thing. That silence still lingers.
@johnteets2921
@johnteets2921 10 ай бұрын
The problem with Pickett's charge was quality control. The Confederate Army ranged in its' artillery before the charge, but, after a few rounds they got into a batch of ammunition that performed differently, it went farther. They couldn't see this because they didn't have smokeless powder in those days. They couldn't see that their rounds were landing behind the main line of Union resistance. If their artillery had landed on the Union line, instead of behind it, it would have been a brilliant victory. And a military innovation. Perhaps Vicksburg would not have surrendered either.
@littlehummingbird1015
@littlehummingbird1015 2 ай бұрын
@@johnteets2921 I didn't know that about the ammunition change....how very tragic for the Confederates....if only they had known, history would be different and we would probably not have the corrupt Federal government of today.
@brucebostick2521
@brucebostick2521 Ай бұрын
@@johnteets2921 it was actually an artilry duel, & union artillery/artillery troops were far superior. alexander did put a massive artillery barrage on union line, but had poor artillery/lesser artillerialists, fired over union lines. lee thought union line was desamated/their artillery disabled. union ldrs decided to pause, to create that very situation. the infantry attack was destroyed by union artillery b/f they got into range of union sm arms. total miscalulation by lee! longstreet tried to forwarn him. thank god he was not up to that task!
@johnteets2921
@johnteets2921 Ай бұрын
@@brucebostick2521 I didn't know those details, but apparently the Union recognized that the enemy was overshooting their target, and, realizing that they didn't know it, adapted to the situation and laid a trap. But I don't think that Lee had poor artillerists who couldn't range in their guns, but once they did, their calculations became obsolete, and they couldn't see that something was wrong. Why Longstreet thought something was wrong, I can't imagine, and i don't know. BTW, the rifles the infantry had in those days had an effective range of 800 paces, as I recall.
@brucebostick2521
@brucebostick2521 Ай бұрын
@@johnteets2921 couple things---first, conferate armaments were nutorious for being poorer quality/inconsistant. the fuses were bad that they used on this day, causing misfires/difficulty in targeting. as well, they were never as good, either in quality of matls. or in training/expertize, of union artillerimen. but, its also true that they just plain overshot their taget, for vareity of reasons, thus miscalulated, thinking union line was in shambles, which it very much was NOT! union artillery, much more than sm arms, devastated that attack!
@LanceRomanceF4E
@LanceRomanceF4E 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for participating in the reenactment and keeping history alive.
@OcotilloTom
@OcotilloTom 10 ай бұрын
As a Confederate reenactor I have had the honor of walking in their footsteps with about 1,000 other reenactors with a Park Ranger in command of our group. I was surprised how the landscape rises and falls. It's not flat as it appears. At times the Union reenactors behind the stone wall awaiting us could only see the tops of our colors. Tom Boyte, Capt. Norfolk Light Artillery Blues (Grandy's Battery) Army of Northern Virginia, CSA, National Civil War Assn.
@ducktapepilot
@ducktapepilot 11 ай бұрын
I love personal accounts of historical events, very cool! It amazes me the bravery of these men marching into what they knew to be almost impossible odds. It's incredible that any survived the charge.
@gottadomor7438
@gottadomor7438 Жыл бұрын
A sobering & humbling time to stand where Pickett's men charged; & gaze across that open flat ground - looking across that field it seemed to me like Lee's order a suicidal mission. How I revere those brave young men who obeyed their orders. So many never got to go home again, tears at the heart to know.
@ericcrawford3453
@ericcrawford3453 11 ай бұрын
What was Lee thi king? Your right.
@Sketch_Sesh
@Sketch_Sesh 11 ай бұрын
@@ericcrawford3453All the commander s went to school together at West Point… all probably in the same secret handshake club too
@ericcrawford3453
@ericcrawford3453 11 ай бұрын
@@Sketch_Sesh that's what makes the Civil so mind blowing , it's true what you say about most of the commanding Gen. & Westpoint then again there's Bedford Forrest started out private ended up a gen.
@jgowin66
@jgowin66 10 ай бұрын
I agree, the frontal assault on Cemetery Ridge was doomed from the start, much like the numerous Northern attacks on Confederate-held Marye's Heights, at Fredericksburg, 8 months earlier. The Union defenders on Cemetery Ridge must have remembered that horrible battle the previous December, as they chanted "FREDERICKSBURG...FREDERICKSBURG..." at the retreating Confederates after Pickett's charge failed.
@carlcushmanhybels8159
@carlcushmanhybels8159 10 ай бұрын
@@jgowin66 So many Generals, on both sides, made the costly mistake of ordering mass frontal assaults. With the Civil War's development in weaponry (rifled muskets, canister and grape shot...) that was usually disasterously wasteful of people. Lee with Picket's. Burnside with Fredricksburg (also incompetent at Antietam's bridge). Grant regretted ordering the Cold Harbor assault. With no dog tags yet, Union soldiers at Cold Harbor pinned I.D. papers to their backs or inside their uniform, hoping their loved ones would hear word and...and the soldiers knew they most likely would not survive.
@glenmartin2437
@glenmartin2437 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. My ancestors and relatives fought on both sides during the Civil War. The ferocity of the battles still amazes me to this day.
@evanleehome2178
@evanleehome2178 11 ай бұрын
And amazing that we have forgotten or sanitized the reality of that struggle. My family lines include 5 relatives who died fighting for the South. I see idiots on line (and attacking the US Capital) itching for another Civil War. Fools. Children playing with guns.
@CSAFD
@CSAFD 11 ай бұрын
My ancestor was confederate general John Bell Hood
@heuristicnepenthean7727
@heuristicnepenthean7727 11 ай бұрын
@@evanleehome2178 attacking the US Capitol? Ray epps and democrats?
@edcarson3113
@edcarson3113 11 ай бұрын
@@evanleehome2178your relatives would embarrass you and vis a versa .
@evanleehome2178
@evanleehome2178 11 ай бұрын
@@edcarson3113 insults. excellent contribution to the conversation.
@howardwells5228
@howardwells5228 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the story. I'm a direct descendant of James Johnston Pettigrew who led the North Carolinas forces in Picketts change at Gettysburg.
@ronaldmccutcheon1329
@ronaldmccutcheon1329 11 ай бұрын
God bless General Pettigrew.
@josephweaver5385
@josephweaver5385 11 ай бұрын
@@ronaldmccutcheon1329 God Bless the union forces who held off that crazy insane charge!
@johnschuh8616
@johnschuh8616 10 ай бұрын
Does your ancestor have a biographer?
@theknowitall4090
@theknowitall4090 10 ай бұрын
Great video. Took guts for those guys to jump in that fire like they did.
@swcrossii
@swcrossii 11 ай бұрын
Wonderful presentation! Your passion for such things shines through. Thank you for sharing.
@alangil3493
@alangil3493 11 ай бұрын
Interesting note here, my great-great grandfather was in Company K, 11th WV Infantry. Love the history of the civil war
@feedyourmind6713
@feedyourmind6713 11 ай бұрын
Mine w/ the 8th of Virginia.
@ronaldmccutcheon1329
@ronaldmccutcheon1329 11 ай бұрын
Great grandfather's brother was there with 8th Alabama.
@littlecrow6484
@littlecrow6484 2 ай бұрын
"... the gallant Virginians pressed on..." My heart fluttered when you read that , and a lump formed in my throat. I'm a Virginian , and a relative of mine in the 18th Va was in that charge. I believe in the same brigade as the 11th Va. What incredibly devoted men they must have been ! There has never been a braver generation than those men in gray who bore 4 arduous years of strife , only to surrender to infinitely superior numbers but ...never superior in Spirit. Never.
@michaeljohnson1157
@michaeljohnson1157 Ай бұрын
Magnificent 🌟 HISTORY Series 👏
@edglass9912
@edglass9912 11 ай бұрын
What a great treat this is to hear from my hometown boys!! Thanks for sharing this!! Ed from Lynchburg
@ericwilkins6583
@ericwilkins6583 11 ай бұрын
I love the way Virginian veterans wrote their stories to maximize the valor and importance of their units. Pickett's charge could just as easily and probably more accurately be called Pettigrew's charge for the fact of the matter is Pettigrew's men traveled farther under far more ferocious fire from three sides and advanced farther on the field (approximately 150 yd) than did Picket's fine men going well past the angle where Pickets men were stopped. And let it be remembered that the remnants of Heth's division, that Pettigrew commanded, had been chewed up on the first day of battle and still achieved their remarkable advance. So to say that Pickets division was not supported is glaringly inaccurate but about par for the course for what was written by Virginians in the post war era. Recent forensic studies going over after action reports, casualty list, etc. Show that the North Carolina units suffered more casualties than any other states units. Moreover, recent scholarship has shown that the damage done to Picket's division was nowhere near as bad as the Virginia apologist would have one believe but since they had the printing presses and the "important" newspapers of the day it was their history that was written. One last tidbit to accentuate my point, Pettigrew's division went into battle numbering 800 men. At the end of it there were 80 men left standing. Longstreet was right. It was a fool's errand to make that assault.
@dawood121derful
@dawood121derful 10 ай бұрын
thank you for sharing
@ronaldmccutcheon1329
@ronaldmccutcheon1329 10 ай бұрын
And the 26th North Carolina got further than anyone on that terrible July 3.
@alexanderh.5814
@alexanderh.5814 10 ай бұрын
It is human nature. You will find this in most soldiers accounts of battles regardless of the war
@johndickinson8848
@johndickinson8848 10 ай бұрын
More likely that Pickett got the recognition because his full division was committed and central. Today’s hand wringers name it the Trimble-Pickett-Pettigrew charge so as to not hurt anyone’s feelings. Not everything needs to be renamed and reframed to conform to present day views. Pickett was a very flawed commander but his name will always be remembered primarily for that assault.
@ookapelirekkars6156
@ookapelirekkars6156 7 ай бұрын
You sir, write like a great author. Very well stated..
@paststeve1
@paststeve1 11 ай бұрын
Great video! Your reading of really brought home the essence of the charge. Thanks! Grace & Peace.
@npdcpa
@npdcpa Жыл бұрын
Stumbled across this video and glad I did. As enjoyable as finding a $20 in the pocket of a winter coat. Keep up the good work!
@pegrathwol
@pegrathwol Жыл бұрын
Great pull on a primary source! Well done. They're out there in plain sight if we know where to look. I'm going to check out Blackford's book. Thanks for the recommendation.
@frankrives9964
@frankrives9964 Ай бұрын
The content is quite good. I like the telling of first-hand accounts of events. I also really enjoy that Ron starts every episode with a big smile and a greeting. It is very welcoming. He seems glad we tuned in.
@alexkalish8288
@alexkalish8288 Жыл бұрын
You really come up with the gems. I just subscribed to this superb channel. My old regiment was on the field The 12th US inf. Sykes division. My ancestors fought for the south, the most famous being Keith Boswell, my great great grandfathers brother.
@johnschuh8616
@johnschuh8616 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. Short, sweet and ringing with truth.
@rudymartinez6242
@rudymartinez6242 10 ай бұрын
Great historical video. Thank you.
@nancyconca9892
@nancyconca9892 11 ай бұрын
Great vlog- thanks for posting in- depth history that I did not know👍 I am really interested in Civil War history 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻‼️‼️‼️
@richardliles4415
@richardliles4415 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Ron for another informative video.
@burkejones8277
@burkejones8277 2 ай бұрын
That was a wonderful description of something that is just so hard for me to imagine.
@dannyhardesty3692
@dannyhardesty3692 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Another breath-taking account---from the Union perspective--is the book written by Officer Frank Haskell---The Battle of Gettysburg. Could not put it down when I started reading it.
@michaelthompson342
@michaelthompson342 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation! Best wishes from Australia.
@Joe-go6vc
@Joe-go6vc 11 ай бұрын
Before the attack a rabbit ran across the field in front of the Confederate troops and into some woods. A soldier called out: "Run old hare. If I were a hare, I'd be running too."
@henryofthepeace4125
@henryofthepeace4125 2 ай бұрын
Shelby Foote uses that quote in the Ken Burns Civil War documentary.
@gsoe2132
@gsoe2132 2 ай бұрын
@@henryofthepeace4125it’s also in “the killer Angels”
@brucebostick2521
@brucebostick2521 Ай бұрын
@@gsoe2132 liked the book. movie was garbage!
@ericcrawford3453
@ericcrawford3453 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Sir! Very educational.
@1notgilty
@1notgilty 2 ай бұрын
Civil War historian and author Shelby Foote famously said that "Gettysburg was the price the South paid for having Robert E. Lee as commander."
@jeffcoats2230
@jeffcoats2230 2 ай бұрын
Love the color and nuance these videos add to the facts of history.
@SouthernStorm_61
@SouthernStorm_61 4 ай бұрын
My Great-Great-Grandfather, John McCall enlisted as a private with Company H, 10th Georgia Infantry Regiment, Wilcox County Rifles, on 20 May, 1861. He was promoted to 4th Corporal on 15 June, 1861 and to First Lieutenant on 2 December, 1864. John W. McCall saw action in the following engagements: Seven Days Battle; Gettysburg; The Wilderness; Spotsylvania Court House; and the Shendandoah Valley Campaign.
@trailer20001
@trailer20001 2 ай бұрын
Good job. Thanks.
@r.williamcomm7693
@r.williamcomm7693 3 ай бұрын
Great stuff.
@user-yr4mo3iz4d
@user-yr4mo3iz4d 2 ай бұрын
"Battle tactics of slow marching into cannon fire is underestimated. This lulls the enemy into thinking they are winning." Gen Lee
@peteraldridge5210
@peteraldridge5210 11 ай бұрын
I was at Gettysburg in the 90 great visit but very eerie
@matthewberkowitz9699
@matthewberkowitz9699 9 ай бұрын
The courage is unfathomable
@drjjpak
@drjjpak 11 ай бұрын
Lee had ordered a massive cannon bombardment of the Federals before the charge, but did not realize that his fire was sailing over the enemy lines. Too much smoke masked the field, the enemy was mostly untouched, and Pickett's men faced the consequences.
@m444ss
@m444ss Жыл бұрын
good stuff. so interesting
@54blewis
@54blewis Жыл бұрын
What’s amazing is that Lee thought that this attack would hit the federal army at its weakest point not realizing that Mead had reinforced the center,also an attack of this scale went in without direct cavalry support which was sent on a flanking maneuver to attempt to attack on the federal rear (which failed)…obviously Lee misread both the strength of the federal line and his faith in his troops ability to finally break that line….this charge took place at the confederacy’s high water mark….for Lee this was the culmination of the not just the battle but of the war….the failure of the charge probably affected Lee more than any other event (this just speculation)for not only did it prolong the war but sapped the offensive strength of the confederate army significant….perhaps Lee was desperate or was cocky but he was always audacious he sincerely believed that he could end the war which he why he took so many risky actions during the battle…..it also must be said that this was an “encounter battle” that is that both armies stumbled into each other,neither had planned to fight there….
@deirdre108
@deirdre108 Жыл бұрын
After Fredericksburg and Chancellorsville (despite the loss of Gen TJ Jackson) Lee must have felt he had the big momentum on his side. Also, the AotP had a new, replacement General in Meade which Lee also thought was to his advantage.
@54blewis
@54blewis Жыл бұрын
@@deirdre108 there’s been much controversy surrounding Mead as to his failure (or reluctance)to follow up the victory and destroy the remnants of Lee’s army….(in my opinion)it was quite possible for another officer to have done so..Lee’s forces were badly mauled and low on ammunition and supplies,a number of his guns were disabled and he lost many of the horses for the caissons (a number of which was also lost)he troops though exhausted still maintained a high morale but were in no shape for a prolonged battle….. The weather had changed dramatically and Lee was faced with a severe downpour which would make a river crossing hazardous at best..that being said the the army of northern Virginia withdrew in good order and for the most part better than most armies of that period. Mead on the other hand had been fighting a largely defensive battle and the army was in relatively good condition..in fact both the 5th and 7th corps could have been used to attack Lee during the retreat and if need be forces from the Washington garrison could have been deployed to hold Lee down while he attempted to cross back over the Potomac while units from Kilpatrick’s cavalry corps (those that were still intact)could be utilized to attack the confederate cavalry screening Lee’s withdrawal…. But Mead felt that his forces were equally exhausted and needed a break…but Mead himself may have suffered from nervous exhaustion and lack the energy needed for such a push…however a Sheridan, a Sherman or Thomas or a Rosecrans would have made a major effort inspite of the odds…
@deirdre108
@deirdre108 Жыл бұрын
@@54blewis You bring up excellent points. I think the "standoff" (if it could be called that) at the Potomac between the Armies is one of the most interesting aspects of the Gettysburg Campaign. I've also wondered why units from the DC garrison weren't brought into forward positions at the Potomac during Lee's retreat, although perhaps it was thought they wouldn't be needed. The AoNV lost Pettigrew at the Potomac. Amazing that he survived Pickett's Charge (Longstreet's Assault) only to be killed during the retreat. Too bad movies and documentaries leave out what we have touched on in our comments. In most cases the show ends with the AoNV heading back to where they began the charge--The End.
@54blewis
@54blewis Жыл бұрын
@@deirdre108 you mentioned the Loss of Pettigrew which was a serious blow,but for Lee and even more so for Longstreet the Loss of Armistead and Barksdale(among others)also weighed heavily against the ANV….same could be said about Reynolds death affected Mead and perhaps the possible conclusion to the battle (again in my opinion and pure speculation)if Reynolds had lived he would have urged Mead to “ride down Lee” as some officers undoubtedly did but didn’t have the capacity to compel Mead as Reynolds would had done…Reynolds was held in high regard and garnered serious prestige in the Federal army…Grant would have been different at Gettysburg..hold Lee’s front and swing around on which flank he thought would give the greatest opportunity…encounter battles were Grant’s forte and he coolness would have been decisive and its doubtful (at least in my mind)that the battle would have lasted three days again speculation on my part…
@johnschuh8616
@johnschuh8616 Жыл бұрын
Many sources have told us that Lee was physically weakened by his heart attack in the spring. He was outgeneraled by Mead, who as t he brand-new commander in charge of subordinates without loyalty to him, and having lost Reynolds and Hancock, deserves the greatest respect because his responsibility as as great as Lee’s. I feel that even if Lee had prevailed that the Union Army would have successfully fallen back on its earlier position further south.
@stevenkarras3490
@stevenkarras3490 3 ай бұрын
"This was the vibe, dude."
@alansewell7810
@alansewell7810 2 ай бұрын
This is an excellent insight, and I subscribed to your channel. An interesting aspect I recently learned is that Lee's men had reached the top of Cemetery Ridge rather easily the day before against light Union opposition. However, the Confederates also lacked the force to hold their position there. Because it had been relatively easy to get there on the second day, Lee thought it would be easy to get there the 3rd.
@kevinpritchard3592
@kevinpritchard3592 6 ай бұрын
The bravery on both sides is unreal.
@MrCabimero
@MrCabimero 3 ай бұрын
As anyone who has been to that battleground will tell you , it was a suicide charge with virtually no where for the Confederates to hide and was very far from the Union line. I was astonished to see how it looked and could not imagine why the order to charge was given.
@truth68-st3dc
@truth68-st3dc 2 ай бұрын
Medieval mentality. Ask Longstreet who was in adamite disagreement.
@curious968
@curious968 Ай бұрын
@@truth68-st3dc Well, that and the fact they _thought_ they had largely eliminated the union artillery. But, yeah, frontal assaults on both sides failed with depressing regularity.
@truth68-st3dc
@truth68-st3dc Ай бұрын
@@curious968 The Confed. had at least two days to gather intel. as to Union artillery positions and availability.
@curious968
@curious968 Ай бұрын
@@truth68-st3dc But not about the barrage they made on the morning of Pickett's charge. They thought it worked. It didn't.
@davidtrent399
@davidtrent399 Ай бұрын
When you go into these situations you don’t think about it changing your life, just about what must be done.🙏
@rickonline777
@rickonline777 11 ай бұрын
My Great Great Grandfather James McPeak volunteered for the 69th PA Co. D and fought at Gettysburg and faced Pickets Charge - The 69th PA's memorial at Gettysburg is placed further Infront of the other memorials in recognition of their decisive part in the battle - he was one of only two volunteers in the 69th PA to return to Ireland and he is buried in Newbridge Co Derry - i think the other volunteer who returned was called Maynes and he is buried outside Ballyronan Co Derry - lot of respect for all the brave soldiers on both sides
@garycombs5721
@garycombs5721 11 ай бұрын
Pickett’s charge was one of the dumbest moves in the history of warfare, and Lee’s star is rightly dimmed because of it.
@tomtravis3077
@tomtravis3077 10 ай бұрын
He thought his boys could do anything. Hubris and completely unexpected from a man of his experience. If only he kept at the flanks. Gotten around the federal position and placed his army between DC and the Federal army.
@herecomesaregular8418
@herecomesaregular8418 10 ай бұрын
@@tomtravis3077Not unexpected. Lee loved a good frontal assault.
@tomtravis3077
@tomtravis3077 10 ай бұрын
@herecomesaregular8418 agreed. However, the approach combined with the artillery and infantry arrayed against him should have given him pause. Too bad Stonewall was gone. He would have got around the flanks.
@garycombs5721
@garycombs5721 10 ай бұрын
@@tomtravis3077 I agree 1000%.
@edharley7254
@edharley7254 2 ай бұрын
He didn’t know the fuse settings of the artillery barrage were flawed. The Union silenced their cannons intermittently to make him think the barrage was having the effect Lee desired. Also, Lee had fight like SunTzu up until then. At Gettysburg, he seemed to go war of attrition - never good. But ultimately he was stubborn to not use his reserve Calvary in the absence of Stewart. Oh one more thing! : He did not know that the then unknown Custer had stopped his cavalry attack from the rear! It was just a bad bad day all around. George Washington’s Vision says the dark, evil spirit that caused us all to fight, came from,.. drum roll, … AFRICA.
@dadsongs
@dadsongs 11 ай бұрын
A couple things strike me about this video: I know I've heard that passage before, about the Federal artillery making "great gaps" in the Confederate lines. I think it's been used a lot, and justifiably so! Next, I don't think I've heard a more concise description of Pickett's Charge. Lastly, I was thinking about how your job as a Civil War researcher is made...easier?...when you find passages like this that owes its effectiveness to feelings or vibes. Simply put, what better way to connect the present with the past than through emotions? Thanks for all you do.
@manilajohn0182
@manilajohn0182 11 ай бұрын
The Gettysburg campaign was carried out by the Lee's AoNV for three reasons: 1) the strategic objective was to remove pressure from the Confederate defenders at Vicksburg; 2) an operational objective was to forage off of the northern countryside (because Lee could not feed the AoNV in his position on the Rappahannock); and 3) to try and gain a victory on northern soil in the hope that the United States Government might agree to a compromise peace. However, Lee said in his after action report that "It had not been intended to fight a battle so far from our base unless attacked"- so the victory he hoped to achieve was originally supposed to be gained by encouraging the AotP to attack him. But the unexpected meeting engagement of 1 July at Gettysburg ruined Lee's plan of campaign and effectively eliminated any chance of a Union offensive. This left Lee in close contact with the AotP with the (originally unwanted) tactical initiative in his lap, and unable to remain in any one place for more than a few days because he was living off of the land. Because of his army's performance in previous battles and with the press of circumstances at his back, it's probably no surprise that Lee attacked on 2 July. By 3 July, Lee clearly felt that he was unable to simply withdraw from the field at Gettysburg and maneuver around the AotP. The man was human and made mistakes. He gave his cavalry commander conflicting orders which coincided in time, failed to make use of the cavalry left behind for reconnaissance, and (like so many others in the AoNV at the time) believed that the army could do almost anything. Considering all of the pressure on him however, few other men could have done as well with the resources he had available.
@josephstevens9888
@josephstevens9888 10 ай бұрын
Very good detail analysis.... it seems Lee was brilliant on the defense, but miscalculated badly when he undertook his two offensive campaigns. Longstreet strongly objected to both the invasion of Maryland in September 1862, then the campaign that resulted in the Battle of Gettysburg the following summer.
@nicholasmuro1742
@nicholasmuro1742 10 ай бұрын
What were the conflcting orders to the cavalry?
@manilajohn0182
@manilajohn0182 10 ай бұрын
@@nicholasmuro1742 In two separate letters to Stuart, Lee instructed him to gather both information and provisions for the army. The former was required to further the strategic objective of the campaign- namely, to maneuver the AotP into attacking the AoNV. The latter was the operational objective of the campaign, which was to forage off of enemy territory and restock the army's supply train. They were contradictory in nature because gathering information required mobility which only the cavalry could provide, while gathering provisions was guaranteed to impede that mobility- which is exactly what took place during the campaign. Lee failed to designate either as a priority objective, while Stuart lacked the strength to accomplish both simultaneously- or the time to accomplish first one and then the other. Stuart attempted to accomplish both and predictably failed.
@nicholasmuro1742
@nicholasmuro1742 10 ай бұрын
@manilajohn0182 Then why does Stuart get such a bad rap for being derelict? He was doing what he was told. He knew the ANV was in need of supplies. This is like what happened at the Little Big Horn to Benteen. He was told to "come quick, bring packs". Can't do both.
@manilajohn0182
@manilajohn0182 10 ай бұрын
@@nicholasmuro1742 Stuart is (and was, as early as just after the battle) blamed for the same reason as both Longstreet and Ewell are blamed; to obscure the fact that the critical errors of the campaign were made by Lee before the battle at Gettysburg even began. As an army commander idolized by the officers and men of the AoNV, few wish to accept the fact that the leader of the most successful army of the Confederacy might be human and capable of making errors.
@donb7113
@donb7113 2 ай бұрын
I’m in Gettysburg right now.
@Jamestele1
@Jamestele1 11 ай бұрын
My family came from Wales, then settled in Kentucky, and joined the Union's 52nd Cavalry Regiment, fighting Southern Guerilla, to prevent them from burning down Lincoln supporters' houses, and robbing Armories, etc. I had other ancestors who fought for the South, believing they had to defend their homes. No easy answers.
@marknewton6984
@marknewton6984 2 ай бұрын
I had an ancestor Jacob Sebastion who fought with the Kentucky 45th, Co. D. I also had Confederate relatives from VA
@kleddit6400
@kleddit6400 Ай бұрын
Even back then, people’s was vibin😌
@debbiehall7016
@debbiehall7016 11 ай бұрын
My gg grandfather NC confederate Allen/Allan Stancil fought at Gettysburg on July 3. He was shot in the "fleshy part of his neck" and was hit in the head, but he survived.
@lifeonthecivilwarresearchtrail
@lifeonthecivilwarresearchtrail 11 ай бұрын
Allen Stancill Residence was not listed; Enlisted as a Private (date unknown). On 11/4/1863 he transferred into "F" Co. NC 13th Battn (date and method of discharge not given) He was listed as: * On rolls 12/31/1864 (place not stated) He also had service in: "H" Co. NC 40th Infantry Source: www.civilwardata.com/active/hdsquery.dll?SoldierHistory?C&200000
@xxxxxx-tq4mw
@xxxxxx-tq4mw 2 ай бұрын
Marye’s Heights in the Battle of Fredericksburg had to be just as insane.
@copycat307
@copycat307 2 ай бұрын
Worse! Cold Harbor too.
@marknewton6984
@marknewton6984 2 ай бұрын
Cold Harbor. Murder...
@mechcavandy986
@mechcavandy986 10 ай бұрын
My 2x grandfather, Pvt. Joel Hamilton Carpenter, and my wife’s 2x grandfather, Lt. J.T. Stanford, both survived Pickett’s Charge with the 11 th Mississippi Infantry. My gf was in Company G, the Noxubee Rifles. I forgot her’s grandfather’s company. They made it to “the high water mark” and were both captured. Deo Vindice. 🤠
@rchrdjms62
@rchrdjms62 2 ай бұрын
Talking of Long Street, he was the reason Pickett wasn't supported because there were still units available to support the charge and Longstreet did not send them in.
@jasonwilliamson8416
@jasonwilliamson8416 11 ай бұрын
I have ancestors that fought on both sides. 4th, 7th, and 10th West Virginia, 19th Indiana, 36th Virginia, and Wheat's Louisiana Tiger Battalion.
@CrazyFeathers
@CrazyFeathers 25 күн бұрын
It wasn’t Gettysburg. It was at Resaca. My Company was misplaced on field, and we were basically engulfed by opposing army. Simple, but eye opening encounter between “real life” what if situation..
@paulkoza8652
@paulkoza8652 11 ай бұрын
I wonder how many on both side thought, "Oh, f**k! What the hell have I gotten myself into?"
@ballhawk387
@ballhawk387 11 ай бұрын
The charge was a perfect example of an army fighting the previous war, and what happens as a result.
@decimated550
@decimated550 10 ай бұрын
I would like to know does anybody have any alternatives to the charge? Should they have simply retreated to Virginia, or did the charge and it's horrors damage the union army enough or disrupted to prevent them from a successful pursuit? Was there some mad logic in the assault? Should he have attacked somewhere else? I don't think the battle could have succeeded or that even the campaign could have succeeded.
@ballhawk387
@ballhawk387 10 ай бұрын
@@decimated550 *Any* alternative would have been better. They could have feinted preparation for such an attack and gone around the flank toward Washington, putting the onus on Union forces to pursue them, and set up entrenched positions, for example. But the headlong charge into massed lines was no longer a viable tactic against artillery and rifles that could hit from 1/4 mile away.
@prairiedweller8917
@prairiedweller8917 11 ай бұрын
Pickett's Charge, my ass. Let's call it what it really was - Pickett's Mass Suicide.
@Legendary_UA
@Legendary_UA 3 ай бұрын
That's BS
@brucebostick2521
@brucebostick2521 Ай бұрын
@@Legendary_UA actually, it amost succeeded! had pettigrew troops been closer/hit same point, it wouldve! as well, stuart had a large calvary unit sweeping b/hind union line, had it not been derailed by a far smaller unit led by custer, it wouldve struck union line from the rear, crushed union line.
@curious968
@curious968 Ай бұрын
@@brucebostick2521 It did not succeed. This is romantic nonsense. The Rebs were cut down and slaughtered. They did reach the angle, but there was no way they had the forces to hold it as, in fact, they did not. Too many died in the charge. They were damn luck to be able to retreat into Virginia and (relative) safety after the battle. The truth is, the outcome could have been even worse. And, sorry, frontal assaults were tried, regularly by both sides, and they just never worked.
@brucebostick2521
@brucebostick2521 16 күн бұрын
@@curious968 my point exactly! had the confederate assualt been better coordinated, it wouldve succeeded. stuart was swinging around the union flank. had custer not headed them off, it wouldve destroyed the union army.
@curious968
@curious968 16 күн бұрын
@@brucebostick2521 Maybe. But this was also the difference between 1863 and earlier years. The union army by then was the better force. We all of us got into the habit of treating the rebs as the elite army. Not, in my judgement, by 1863. The union now was more flexible, more veteran, harder to rout. I saw a very good presentation by a pro historian that documented the loss of not just Stonewall Jackson, but hundreds of other officers and men of quality by 1863, never to be replaced. In Gettysburg, there was always someone -- a Chamberlain, a Custer, that robbed the rebs of their dream of glory. Heck even whole units like the First Minnesota made suicidal charges (and knew they were doing so) just to blunt the rebs' advance. This is what the rebs were used to doing and it started to be done to them at Gettysburg. Just as it was at Vicksburg. At Gettysburg, it was always something. Every time. If it wasn't Custer, it's not clear that something else wouldn't have happened. There were several will-o-the-wisp dreams, but that's all they were. Shadows they grabbed at that vanished at the touch, only to be replaced with horrid losses instead. The whole shoulda woulda we all enjoy engaging in is actually quite instructive if we allow it to be so. Pickett had it right when he suggested the Yankees had something to do with it.
@jeffadkins5812
@jeffadkins5812 10 ай бұрын
It starts at 2:18
@Macarena22279
@Macarena22279 2 ай бұрын
" never fight uphill, me boys"!
@wallaceralston2057
@wallaceralston2057 2 ай бұрын
My opinion is that the aftermath of being in combat resonates more than anticipation. Prior to, we are scared and when young, have little comprehension of what is happening.
@Gaviid
@Gaviid Жыл бұрын
Awesome video Sir. Im excited to be one of your first 1,000 subscribers. Looking forward to watching your channel.
@rolotomassi9806
@rolotomassi9806 10 ай бұрын
My Great Great Grandfather was on Pickett’s Charge. He was captured right after he crossed the wall at The Angle. He was also at Antietam. Truthfully, I think he had seen enough and said that’s it… I’m done.
@tinknal6449
@tinknal6449 10 ай бұрын
The valiant bayonet charge of the First Minnesota changed the tide. 250 ran in, 47 came back.
@andylarson19591
@andylarson19591 2 ай бұрын
The day before Picketts charge. Outnumbered 4 to 1 the Minnesota men stopped Wilcox's brigade cold.
@Pwelvr
@Pwelvr 3 ай бұрын
A romantic description of a stupid order and resultant slaughter. If an officer upon reflection of actions in battle, writes such a glowing description of such a mistake, he is not fit to serve in that position.
@josephweaver5385
@josephweaver5385 11 ай бұрын
lee was the reason the southern states lost at gettysburg. His famous quote. But the enemy is here! i thought he was given a pass, and had no enemies, just an allegiance to Virginia! They made a scapegoat of longstreet who showed up at a reunion. He was unwavering of his right of say I opposed Lee's tactics! I was right and we lost the war!
@marknewton6984
@marknewton6984 Ай бұрын
True. Cold Harbor. Malvern Hill.
@sarabrown7689
@sarabrown7689 10 ай бұрын
Everyone calls it "Pickett's Charge." But the entire Confederate line charged. Pickett just happened to have the unfortunate luck to be positioned in that spot. The most amazing thing to me is that some Confederate troops actually made it all the way up the slope and across the stone wall.
@lifeonthecivilwarresearchtrail
@lifeonthecivilwarresearchtrail 10 ай бұрын
Thanks, Sara. I'll have a video next week to offer thoughts on this subject based on my research.
@timmellin2815
@timmellin2815 2 ай бұрын
I webcast HS sports and tend to give creative description of something that might happen; I never know what it will be or what I might say....sometimes a situation develops and a description will pop into my head from who knows where. Last year at a game, there was what the defensive team thought was a 15 yd. penalty, so they marched back 15 yds, and when they turned around, they realized it wasn't a penalty and the offense was set to snap the ball. Suddenly, the defense tried to run quickly across the 15 yards, back to the line of scrimmage. Instantly I said it looked like Picket's charge, w/ the defense trying to cover that open space towards the main action. Weird how that stuff works.
@RonLPitts
@RonLPitts 10 ай бұрын
""Were all gonna get kilt"" that was the vibe
@kenbash2951
@kenbash2951 2 ай бұрын
This account rings true. Pettigrew's men (more than half) ran from the battlefield leaving Pickett's men to do most of the fighting and most of the dying that day.
@seabertotter4325
@seabertotter4325 11 ай бұрын
They had Playtex Living Gloves in those days?
@MGrant-bj1dc
@MGrant-bj1dc 11 ай бұрын
I had ancestors on both sides, but my great great grandfather was in the 38th Va and was wounded twice during Pickett's Charge and captured. I've often wondered how far he made it? Was he over the stone wall where Armistead fell? All I have to go on are pension records, but it's crazy to think about.
@brianniegemann4788
@brianniegemann4788 11 ай бұрын
It's likely that he got close to the wall before he was wounded, otherwise he would have been carried off the field by the retreating Pickett dicision. It amazes me that any human being could have the courage to march through such a storm of grapeshot, exploding shells and Minie rounds.
@MGrant-bj1dc
@MGrant-bj1dc 11 ай бұрын
@@brianniegemann4788 Thanks for the reply. His pension records say he took a grapeshot to the foot and a minie ball to the hip. He claimed he couldn't do a full days work after the war. He was listed in his local paper as missing until it was confirmed he was captured.
@richiephillips1541
@richiephillips1541 2 ай бұрын
My Great-great Grand Uncle (is that a word?) Arthur carried the flag of Company C 8th Louisiana Regiment up Cemetery Hill until he was shot in the arm. The fellow who took up the flag next was killed. Arthur was later killed (shot) carrying the flag while the company was being repositioned at Spotsylvania Court House in May 1864.
@jagsdomain203
@jagsdomain203 11 ай бұрын
I am reading a book called here and there. Its about historical places and markers thay know one knows about. He mentioned Hawaii's that fought for the Union. Do you know anything about them?
@gyges5495
@gyges5495 2 ай бұрын
Two places I wouldn’t want to be on the attacking side: Picketts Charge and Battle of Franklin (confederate side). Of the two Franklin was worse , but at Gettysburg those units had a long attack, unless you are sprinting across, plus there’s fences in the way.
@wntu4
@wntu4 11 ай бұрын
So sad and yet such a credit to Picketts men that they made it so far as to plant their flags. If Lee had only had a follow on division in support they would have succeeded.
@feedyourmind6713
@feedyourmind6713 11 ай бұрын
Meade had at least another Corps in reserve.
@terryhancockroc6560
@terryhancockroc6560 10 ай бұрын
💯 Reserves were there. Not needed. Assistance wouldn't have changed anything.
@henryofthepeace4125
@henryofthepeace4125 2 ай бұрын
Only one sentence "recalls" the vibe. The rest tells what happened.
@ksrmk
@ksrmk 10 ай бұрын
Fascinating account of the action. So many lives wasted.
@markmahosky532
@markmahosky532 2 ай бұрын
“ Don’t fight uphill me boys” R E Lee
@d.a.2742
@d.a.2742 11 ай бұрын
Only problems with what you said was that from where Stuart was on East Cemetery no cannon shot from Lee's side of the field could have been heard or delineated from the cannon shots from Stuarts battle going on with Gregg and Custer to tell him when Lee started the charge ....no order has ever been found or any officer recorded in their memories of Gettysburg stating that Stuart was ordered by Lee to attack the Union rear ...this was made clear by the American Battlefield Trust in their discussion of the third day of Gettysburg .
@christopherhardy8937
@christopherhardy8937 10 ай бұрын
So what were Stuart's orders?
@d.a.2742
@d.a.2742 10 ай бұрын
@@christopherhardy8937 It was the role of Jeb Stuart’s troopers, reinforced by Albert Jenkins and numbering some 3,500, to strike the Union far right while Pickett's attack was being made. If Pickett’s great charge was successful, there was hope that Stuart would be in position to exploit the breakthrough and cut-off lines of retreat.
@christopherhardy8937
@christopherhardy8937 10 ай бұрын
@@d.a.2742 thank you for explaining 🤙
@jeffbendoski8364
@jeffbendoski8364 Ай бұрын
Never fight uphill, me boys.
@kensilverstone1656
@kensilverstone1656 2 ай бұрын
From the current viewpoint, the strategy seems insane; the bravery of the men, the same.
@hughmanatee7657
@hughmanatee7657 11 ай бұрын
Written thirty years after the event-albeit by one who participated-would not there have been an artificial element of composition involved, as opposed to an expression of the raw feelings at the time of the charge?
@bryanharrison7847
@bryanharrison7847 11 ай бұрын
Good vibes of course.
@robertjohnson8938
@robertjohnson8938 11 ай бұрын
If Pickett was supported the battle might been different
@lurking0death
@lurking0death 10 ай бұрын
If, if, if. If Pickett's men were ten foot tall and had assault rifles, the battle might HAVE been different.
@marksandor2830
@marksandor2830 10 ай бұрын
A sad day….
@bradleysmall2230
@bradleysmall2230 11 ай бұрын
One of Reagan’s best Jokes. Soviet apparatchik: OK you can have a new car. Pay for it now and you can collect it in 10 years from today. Russian asks: Morning or afternoon. Soviet: why would that matter. Russian: the plumber is coming in the morning.
@vietcombatvet1289
@vietcombatvet1289 Ай бұрын
So what was the vibe?Before battle you are anxious after the shooting starts adrenaline kicks in and you may not even hear explosions next to you I didn't even when limbs were blown off
@bh5606
@bh5606 2 ай бұрын
Billy Bob Thornton?
@ralphh.2200
@ralphh.2200 11 ай бұрын
There were almost 13,000 Confederate soldiers who formed out of those woods.The line was 1.5 miles long and 6 ranks deep. Average age was 19...After 25 minutes, over 3000 were dead or dying on the field.
@whitemountainapache3297
@whitemountainapache3297 11 ай бұрын
Rather than doing suicidal shit like that, they should have followed more the tactics of Nathan Bedford Forrest.
@grahamwritesagain
@grahamwritesagain 10 ай бұрын
Shoot, what happened to the North Carolinians? Wasn't it boys from a North Carolina Infantry regiment who penetrated deepest through the Union line during Pickett's Charge at Gettysburg--which later historians dubbed the high-water mark of the Confederacy?
@dadeo8957
@dadeo8957 11 ай бұрын
Let’s not forget the botched artillery barrage before the assault. Had it been on target. The charge on the center of the Federal line may have been different.
@wecandobetter9821
@wecandobetter9821 11 ай бұрын
The artillery inaccuracy was mainly due to new untested fuses being slightly different in burn time. This caused most of the shells landing behind Union lines thereby helping creating the disaster that followed.
@billkallas1762
@billkallas1762 Жыл бұрын
It would be one thing to write about the battle in 1865, when memories were fresh. Another thing to write about it 30 years after the event.
@deirdre108
@deirdre108 Жыл бұрын
You might enjoy (if you haven't read it yet) Carol Reardon's "Pickett's Charge In History And Memory". She quotes observations by the soldiers who were part of and witnessing the Assault as well as (which I found most interesting) the newspaper and magazine reportage soon afterwards.
@ronaldmccutcheon1329
@ronaldmccutcheon1329 11 ай бұрын
Every July 3 i tell my wife and friends that our boys will take that hill today.
@sneadh1
@sneadh1 11 ай бұрын
It feels as if Lee was channeliong Naoleon at Waterloo - head on charge against the center of en enemy whichg was positioned on & a ridge.
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