A Creative Journey with the Apple M2 Pro Mac Mini.

The M2 Pro Mac Mini is probably one of the best things that has happened to the creative industry. The size, the performance and the price are unbeatable. I wanted to put this Mac into the hands of some talented individuals to see how it fits their workflow and how the M2 Rpo . So, let's hear their side of the story :)
Huge thanks to @jetsetforevr and Dustin for being a part of this video.
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Jet - jetsetforevr
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Johnny - jonnyeatworld
Aaron - aarondrumss
TIMESTAMPS -
0:00 - The Mac Mini with M2 Pro
1:01 - NOT your Typical Mac Mini Review
1:24 - M2 Pro Mac Mini Benchmarks & Price
3:03 - Music Production & the Mac Mini
10:47 - Professional Photography & the Mac Mini
15:36 - Price & PERFORMANCE = Perfection?
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[@blackgold1859]

All I see are reviews from content creators…what about reviews from people in engineering/science/finance? Not everyone makes videos or is a photographer.

[@somnia3423]

Woudnt sciencist use linux or windows atleast

[@Chris3s]

macs are pretty much only used by creatives, so music, graphics, photography and such. Even for 3D design or CAD you would probably use a windows laptop or PC

[@iamChermac]

@@somnia3423 Not necessarily. I daily drove a Mac from 2013-2021, it was a great alternative Linux when things were more hit & miss with those OSes. One of the best selling points was the open-source ecosystem of macports and homebrew. I did a lot of engineering analyses on my Mac. I think software is one of the key factors for which OS you end up heavily attached to. For e.g., I worked with a Windows based software that was proprietary closed-source and that meant I had to have a Windows machine too. As soon as the Fortran code was released open-source I compiled a copy of the application for OS X.

[@iamChermac]

@@Chris3s A lot of Architects use Macs in smaller firms. Windows generally was the go-to for bigger & corporate level companies. I worked for a Building Services firm (

[@diegon7781]

Exactly. When creators review products they usually do it with the workflows they use. Which is most of the time just video editing.

[@johannboth]

Technically they are all content creators...

[@diegon7781]

I was expecting to see some 3D artists workflows. The advantages of Adobe and Apple's own software (obviously) are well know. But for many professionals Apple stopped being an option the moment they dropped Nvidia, and therefore CUDA.

[@andyH_England]

Macs have less than 10% of the market and are only for some. They are the best ultrabooks and great for media creators. They are not for gamers and other prosumers. I think most techies watching this or researching know the pros and cons.

[@chickenpasta7359]

i dropped my m1 macbook pro when i started taking blender more seriously and switched to an RTX card. its a night and day difference

[@thedarknightnicht]

@@andyH_England Yeah I believe in the entire ML space its not really an option vs CUDA

[@askjdog]

For most of my work this is a good option. However, regarding the comments in this thread.. perhaps not for 3D and ML dev tasks.

[@thelandofdustin]

Thank you guys so much again for the amazing experience and for the opportunity to test out the M2 Pro! I was surprised by it's performance, especially for it's size.

[@QTF101]

you guys are so cool, the amount of work and effort you put on each of your videos is admirable, which always motivates to not give up and keep push forward ❤️

[@truthteller6021]

Thanks for the video. Appreciated the various use reviews.

[@Lagendy]

Would've been nice to have gotten the opinion of the mac mini from a developer's point of view.

[@therealist2000]

true

[@dracobutwhatever8611]

How does the workflow differ when a pc has more performance? I personally only noticed a big difference when going from a crappy laptop to a 2015 macbook, but then again, I havent coded any projects yet so dont know the real world use case

[@HardwareCanucks]

Absolutely agree! We will certainly consider this next time 👍

[@racerex340]

@@dracobutwhatever8611 I'm still struggling to figure out what makes a Mac better to code on than a windows or Linux PC. Writing code isn't all that resource consuming, and while local compiling is a thing, if you're in a professional setting you probably aren't doing that locally. You aren't testing your apps in a way that Mac provides any advantage, VM's and more modernly containers run on anything. 15 years ago I preferred a Mac for coding, scripting, production work because they had a far more functional workspace for multiple large monitors, so lots of terminal / SSH and utility windows open at once, but today? I hate windows 11, but from a productivity standpoint it's just as good / functional as MacOS, and Linux is right there alongside it, it's really just desktop environment preference and tooling availability.

[@OmariRose1]

As a sysadmin, I can safely say that devs never have enough compute power

[@alexandercarpinteroroca7376]

Thanks for this video this is all that I needed to, from a concert media standpoint and this is the computer that I’m going to buy.🎉🎉

[@hdwill]

Great collabs, got amazing b roll out of it. GJ!

[@eliangomez3251]

Was planning on buying one in a few hours, the timing is impeccable!

[@suryakamalnd9888]

Amazing video bro

[@freddumartin7878]

Awesome video, real life usage feedback is what's lacking in gear reviews! I'd really love to see more of that format, thanks 🤩

[@DragonKingGaav]

but can it run crysis?

[@quincyfreeman2901]

Great vid concept. Really love this idea and it was done excellently. Cheers!

[@SwatejK]

Amazing effort..🤩👍🏼

[@transitengineer]

This was truly an outstanding video. Because, there is nothing better than "real world" reviews (smile...smile).

[@twistedandy]

It looks like another Apple promo video. The comparison between ancient Intel Core i9 9900K released 5 years ago with the new M2 Pro looks... weird.

[@andyH_England]

Many creators got flack for comparing modern Windows machines with M-chip Macs. So creators are protecting their revenue stream by not comparing current Windows versus current Macs as Intel and Windows OEMs may think twice about sponsorship, freebies and early access.

[@twistedandy]

@@andyH_England Intel Core i9 9900K with the old RTX 2070 is not a "current" Windows machine. It's at least 4 years old. Obviously, the new tech will be much better.

[@andyH_England]

@@twistedandy True, but this channel is Windows dominated, and if they compared to current Windows machines of similar form, maybe it would not show them in good light (are there any good small desktop Windows machines like the mini?). I got the impression that Windows OEMs complained to creators when they did this on the M1 launch; hence not many are now doing it to appease their main Windows income stream (Apple does not sponsor YT creators as far as I know).

[@PLANETWATERMELON]

Great video. Really smart to partner up with these other people.

[@YuProducciones]

your voice sound dope and the studio in the background in the conclusion part looks fire bro.

[@roro-dr3qc]

love your gshock !

[@alihammad6318]

Incredible video! And hats off to your lighting in this one, it's among the best I've seen. I think a behind the scenes video would be a great informative piece! And Dustin, killing it out here buddy!

[@racerex340]

I've been saying for at least 3 years that HC has some of the sexiest production value of any tech channel. LMG and MKBHD still tend to top the charts, but they also are buried under more frequent release work flows, LMG has had to forego some quality for quantity, I think HC works harder at lighting and composition, scene building, the overall vibe in some of HC's content is unmatched, especially Dmitry's and Eber's, some of Dmitry's shots are so good I get goosebumps.

[@alihammad6318]

@@racerex340 100% agreed, the only channel that consistently has the same quality is Optimum Tech and he's a one man show.

[@faucher8]

The intro is fire 🔥

[@NicolasZanotti]

What a great video! I love how you portrayed the Mac Mini as a tool for creatives, rather than focussing on specs.

[@tangosierrabravo9165]

I've had apple computers since 1993, from the IIci, powermac 4400, G3, G5, mac Mini 2009 and 3 painful generations of 27 inch imacs, paid for in gold, now I've switched to Windows PCs, which I've set up at a fraction of cost of Apple, with much better performance, Adobe programs are the same, even if honestly I still prefer the Apple operating system. Apple's prices are embarrassing and if you have a problem you have to wait months, send it in for assistance and hope it comes back up and running. No thank you.

[@rich-nixx]

Dustin is the best!!!!!!!! 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

[@ilkerYT]

Since M1,Apple has succesed to suprise us by every thin/silent product that they realised these stuff got my hopes up for the future of efficent/high perf chips

[@achannelhasnoname5182]

It's almost like ARM architecture is more efficient than x86 processors, but less versatile. Also you give up every bit of upgradebility, which IMO is terrible for the consumer. Imagine being left with 8GB of RAM for the whole lifecycle of a $700 computer.

[@ilkerYT]

​@@achannelhasnoname5182 Efficency comes with integreated modules but ur right that the cpu could have had 2 slots for future ram upgradeability and the nvme issues ....

[@27Binx72]

​​​​@@achannelhasnoname5182 ​​Personally, I think those downsides only matter in edge cases though. The majority of people and use cases will be better served by the efficiency of ARM. Most people don't keep systems for longer than 5-10 years and if your economic situation is so dire that you can't upgrade in 5-10 years, then I'd argue that the inability to upgrade your RAM is a non issue and the least of your worries if we're being honest. Edit: Even in the desktop PC space, when we're talking upgrades, it's all relative and in these longer time frames of a decade or so, it's kind of irrelevant. Even with a desktop PC, you're forced to replace all the internal components, including the motherboard, past a certain point for major upgrades anyway. These platforms don't last very long. AMD's AM4 platform was an exception and even then it died in 6 years. It's impossible to future proof anything, especially when we're looking at time spans longer than 5 years.

[@27Binx72]

Maybe the solution will be something like what framework is doing and just have user replaceable modules when an upgrade is needed vs trashing the entire thing at the end of a device's usable life. Even then though, you're looking at a desktop like lifespan for mobile devices. Eventually you'll have to replace all the internals for major long term upgrades.

[@andyH_England]

@@achannelhasnoname5182 All Android phones and tablets have non-upgradeable RAM and storage, and I never see you complain that it is terrible to spend £1150 on a Galaxy S23U for 8GB of non-upgradeable RAM and storage. The S23U is just as expensive and lasts as long. I feel that it is an anti-Apple sentiment that permeates through Apple coverage. I have a Galaxy Book3 Pro 360 that cost £2050 and has only 8GB of non-upgradeable RAM; I looked on a few reviews of this and never saw a comment from you complaining!

[@Technobitz]

Bruh that intro tho , straight fire

[@Racklut]

The thumbnail looks sooooo good.

[@vyacheslavfiodorov5738]

My experience. On M1 Pro Studio- Illustrator - bad, worse then PC, on Premiere/Davinci - overall bad on non-MOV optimized codecs. On 3d - Blender, Cinema4d - worse then PC - lack of cores, lack of CPU freq in final render.

[@akin242002]

No SD card reader, should be a deal breaker for photographers. In that case, the M2 Macbook Pro 16-inch would be a better choice for photography.

[@ameliabuns4058]

Damn that's fast... I regret not getting the m2 air tho, I wonder if it's that different there. What about the m2 pro

[@moranast]

I'm loving this format ..Real Dope !!

[@odinsplaygrounds]

I think the size and power draw to performance is completely unmatched when it comes to the Macs as of late. Obviously you can build a more powerful PC... but that is also gonna be much bigger and much MUCH more power hungry. Having so much performance, and an excellent OS, in such a tiny box is really cool. I wish more DIY components would focus on size as well, as we have been seeing a bad trend components like GPUs just getting bigger and bigger lately.

[@flexairz]

Totally correct....

[@nadtz]

There are a bunch of windows mini's out there and looking at options like the Beelink SER6 Pro some of them are pretty fantastic. In comparison to apple's M architecture the IGPU still lags behind but I think that's to be expected when it's not as 'closed' an ecosystem as Mac's are. The 4070/A4000 ada makes for some interesting possibilities in the near future but adding in even a 4070 would bring power draw up by 10 watts at idle and 70 at load and it wont be as pretty as a mac, but you can also swap ram and SSD's for instance.

[@ToddSauve]

Dustin, I found the audio of your two guests was less than optimal. It was hard to understand what they were saying. It just sounded very narrow, lacking in natural frequency balance and brittle. I hope that makes sense. Perhaps the choice of lavaliere microphone? Or maybe the rooms they were in? Your voice, on the other hand, sounded rich, natural and easy to understand. Just thought I'd let you know that how it sounded over my 20 MB/s cable connection here in Calgary. I have an audio-video receiver and Dolby surround sound setup. 🤷‍♂🎙😉

[@linus11vf1j]

I think a big takeaway from this video is how much performance improvement there is in dedicated focused hardware for specific tasks.

[@raredreamfootage]

The comparison to the PC was a bit lopsided don't you think? The photographer person was comparing the M2 Pro to an i9 9900K + RTX 2070 (12:36) which is a very outdated PC. He might as well be talking about an i9 13900K + RTX 4070.

[@analogicparadox]

IO + 4070 would be a bit pricier, but point still stands. The only fair comparison would be with current tech, ideally a windows build based on what you're trying to achieve.

[@Deathsead747]

When a PC and tech enthusiast, who's entire channel revolves around the PC community mainly, completely switches to an MBP that says a lot. And over the last year or so, the video production quality has been on-point as well! P.S props on a not so traditional review.

[@Somtric]

You literally have 0% point in your comment. Your comment does not make any sense.

[@pessimism056]

I see nothing here that can't be done with a less expensive windows computer.

[@cepamoa1749]

i bought 2 m1 computer and they are trash in my garage. Mac OS is a catastrophy, update are giganormous, i had to wait month and month that apple correct multi screen bug (if screen are same model it was NOT able to keep their order switching them at each time it slept or restart) update of non "apple boutique" app is a pain. Everything in mac OS ffels so basic unprodfessioal and badly handled. Even the close butons on the windows cannot ba changed to the rigth making it a pain for every rigth handed person having to go all to the left of the windows. The menu for all apps are on the top of the screen making you moving 10x more the mouse than any other operating system. Then the harware, all is soldered no maintenance, no upgrade possible. All in all Mac platform is really amateur and basic and not well done at all. The case is beautifull, all the rest is horrible.

[@taucetus3657]

Only video on all of KZbin highlighting realities of utilizing Apple silicon in a music studio, the shortcomings, etc... from the perspective of a songwriter ...a group largely ignored by Apple which today focuses its marketing on video creatives. He points out the strange viability of ports supplied by Apple on their Mac Mini line of machines, and how limited a producer may become when dealing with iLock devices.

[@ahumblerequest5222]

This kind of real time reviews matters

[@D1n75]

For a second I thought it was a collaboration with Lew Later! 😅

[@drogba6487]

thks for this. every review is just a video by a content creator talking about how they used the Mac to make the 10 min. video we're already watching.

[@manitsony6703]

i wish the users said which daily driver computer they using prior to m2pro

[@soundgrips]

The photographer has a pretty high end pc he mentions it in the video

[@rossmpostpro]

Great to see tech being used in a real life setting, it's easy to get lost in specs and 1% lows. I'm a professional editor and colourist in the UK and I always love to see how others work and how I can apply that to my setup and projects. Remember, for primarily Windows based users, making the switch to Apple does take time. I say, use both! Great video.

[@yano391]

Woaw this mac mini m2 sounds amazing (with big SSD than the baseline ones). I'm quite surprised by the performance to be honest. But now this video makes me wonder about the relevance of the Mac Studio M1. Is it still worth compared to this Mac Mini M2 ?

[@ghost-user559]

The Studio is definitely relevant for people who have more money and need more Ram and Gpu up front. Once you upgrade the Mini Pro too much, you already start reaching the base model Studio Max. At that point it’s completely worth it to just get the Studio. But for the price the M2 Mini is fantastic.

[@Theorica]

For audio capture and processing, it's all about memory and cache latencies/sizes. Less about processing power and pretty much nothing about graphics--though, being able to drive multiple displays in 4K is a huge plus. Most modern 6 core and 8 core processors can handle many plug-ins at a time with ease. Again, it is the memory and latency that is the issue most of the time. In my experience, audio workstations are the more misunderstood types of builds/systems there are. Plenty of woo surrounding them, as well as unnecessary upsells. For the size of the Mini and it's base price, the Mac Mini for audio is pretty OK, but nothing special. More than OK if tech and building your own is something that you have little experience with or desire to do. Otherwise, build your own for less (and even better specs). Plenty of info online on how to build an audio based workstation without buying what you don't need at all. If you're a Logic user, then yes, you'll need this of course. This all considered, the M2 Mac Mini is a BEAST!

[@manitsony6703]

i am upgrading from core i9 gen10 hackintosh to m2pro mini. .previously i had 4tb nvme and 32gb machine was a beast never ran any issue in bitwing and logic....but since ventura i am having driver issue with thunderbolt personas interface.. .i will surely miss my huge nvme and ram..my itx case and psu cost was nearly or $300usd+- the cooling another $100 so $400 spent on intangibles but what i love about hackintosh/pc is it comes with 3 years wanrranty on most of the parts. i even bought a spare motherboard. which came in handy onetime during rma.. . to build your own pc with good case and pc is half the cost of mac mini base..

[@UHDGamers-re2xj]

I think when my PC is no longer able to do what I need I will go to the mac mini m3 or m4 as gaming isn’t really something I do much anymore. So for me video editing and photo editing in lightroom will be its only use. Or I’ll just go to ipad for it all.

[@vansoncheung]

Dustin！！

[@nielderfp]

The Mac Mini would be good if you could effortlessly upgrage RAM and storage. It would be better if the power button and a couple of USB ports were on the front.

[@andyH_England]

It is ARM architecture, so based on the Apple A chips. These do not have upgradeable RAM or storage, and no one complains. People must understand that the M chips are different from Intel and therefore done differently. The economies of scale would only be lost if Apple had to make separate M chips rather than utilise the A chips, so it is unlikely that Apple will ever offer upgradeable RAM or storage.

[@nadtz]

@@andyH_England People complain. And it's possible, apple just chooses not to do it.

[@sintram10]

can you play any pc games on it?

[@covert0overt_810]

gaming is dead… has been since 2020.

[@devyashjangid2425]

@@covert0overt_810 average isheep arguement

[@covert0overt_810]

@@devyashjangid2425 i use a mac. but its a 2012. i have a gaming PC. haven’t turned it on in 2 years - 1080Ti.

[@The8blackwidow8]

Interesting that "professionals" are used synonym to "media creators".

[@aj-wn4ps]

Lol the photographer said it was a night and day difference and still said he expected more?

[@LadySamurai88]

I have a debate with someone. Does the Wireless Keyboard from 2007 or 2009 work on the new Mac Mini M2 Pro? I say no the other person says yes try it.

[@boonie3]

Would love to see AMD make a mini PC with one of their high end laptop CPU's and laptop GPU's

[@chadbizeau5997]

The ROG ally is literally that. With the AMD z1 extreme

[@nadtz]

See the Beelink SER6 Pro.

[@IMUSTHCOOSEANEWNAMEB]

Not sure if I watched an ad or a review, I guess this is what apple is selling tho, emotions.

[@couldsleep]

just discovered your channel, and really appreciate how concise and well thought out your videos are. I have a rather pedestrian question for you. I need to use a Remote Desktop for high speed trading. I currently have a 2017 Macbook Pro 13 Inch Two Thunderbolt 3 port 2.3 GHz Deal Core Intel Core i5. And need to purchase another computer to work with. If speed and clarity are really important, what would you purchase; a new macbook, a new Apple tablet perhaps; should I replace my computer as well? and is there a remote desktop that is known for being the best? thanks for any assistance you can provide, and keep up the great work.

[@saireddy528]

Upgrade cost is the only thing that's holding me off of Macs.

[@charliexu5013]

I am struggling between M1 Max Mac Studio and M2 Pro Mac Mini as a music producer😰feel very hard to make decision

[@doubledown4957]

Have you decided?

[@charliexu5013]

@@doubledown4957 I went for Mac Studio, because they have M2 Max with it now

[@jkj420]

Not only was the video not about what it said in the title, but contained little useful information.

[@ardencassie5150]

As a music producer I was super excited for that side of the review but was very disappointed. 30 plug-ins is really not that many. Most productions these days have at least 30 tracks (professional studies up to 80-90) each with at least 3 or 4 plugins per track and that’s not counting groups and busses. Just seems like they didn’t really push the computer to find its limits and instead were just repeating back highly produced lines that didn’t say much about how it actually went.

[@YoureNowOnTV]

If they did push it hard the lack of ram and storage would have been more apparent and would have ruined the theme of the video I guess? 🤔

[@ardencassie5150]

@@YoureNowOnTV you could manage fine with remote storage but I suspect 16GB ram would be a stretch. But hard to know without sitting down with it and testing myself. Also depends on what your trying to produce. Orchestra simulation? Well then 64GB ram minimum. Electronic production? Maybe less than that. But synths can still chew ram.

[@jeremybarber2837]

Love the extended scope of the review. The future is bright for competition.

[@pranze3484]

It's nice that apple made a breakthrough in efficiency with their m chip. But it's even nicer that it pushed amd to produce even better apus, so we can run open-source superior os and software. Btw, open-source is absolutely destroying proprietary AI, it's time to notice.

[@rudysal1429]

It's not like Apple didn't have the resources to do this with their zombie followers. It also is ARM that was used which is very efficient for certain computing. The bigger thing is apple forcing developers to have ARM based software and some of their development to allow non- native software to run on ARM. kinda like steam and AMD developing and improving vulkan and proton. The one area that MS failed with their ARM devices was not forcing developers to have native ARM support and many things have to use emulation and ran like crap.

[@pranze3484]

@@rudysal1429 well windows zombie followers are magnitude more, and yet ms failed indeed because 0 vision. There's 0 innovation anyway, they still rely on NT compatibility in 2023 and introduce features available on linux since 2005 in 2023, slowly. Hello virtual desktops, proper shell, tabs in browsers and file managers? Jesus. Anyway, riscv is probably where things will move forward, arm is too proprietary with very cumbersome booting mechanisms.

[@evilleader1991]

Big if true, source?

[@andyH_England]

@@rudysal1429 I believe that Apple was so frustrated by Intel's lack of ability and poor upgrades that Intel forced Apple to move to ARM so they could develop their hardware faster and better. You may hate Apple, but Intel are the source of their own demise, and Apple has, in fact, done the PC industry a good turn by pushing Intel onwards. That is why a monopoly is bad for consumers. You hate Apple and wish they died would be a disaster for progress.

[@rudysal1429]

@@pranze3484 sure, that's why I use Linux.

[@ardanidk]

Defo not for heavy games

[@p4l4d1n7]

apple gonna make continuum real

[@trancevoyagesessions]

No upgrade no maintenance. What happens when your drive fails. You can’t even swap it out. Apple used to be the innovators, my 2007 iMacs had bays on the from to slot in Ram, the screen was magnetic for easy upgrades and maintenance. It’s such a shame they solder everything now. Why Apple, I’d luv to buy one but even 16gb is not enough now. In no works does 8gb extra cost 200..

[@thisunsudaraka9027]

why so many dislikes?

[@EdU-od5ec]

In the UK the base m2 pro only comes with 512gb storage. Its an extra £200 to 1TB, raising the price to £1,599. I'm also a photographer. Had the og m1 mini with 1tb. and went back to windows recently. The key problem is storage. I would say for anyone doing serious photo work with lots of projects, you need at least 2TB, and at £1,999 for this config. (Yes Apple charging £600 over base for 1.5TB), you are better off with a windows pc at £1,599+ prices. Another problem i had with the mini is if you need more space you need an external tb4 drive, which cost £££. Also your review is bias. The photographer never did give the specs of his pc. So really the watcher can't make an informed decision. Plus your 'review' doesn't consider performance against an equivalent priced pre-built (I know! but some people don't have the time to build their own) tower system or sff pc. Truth is for the use cases you promote, you really don't need more than an i5 with say a 3060 and at least 32GB Ram. For £1,599. For that money a have a system with 4TB+ and a 3060 will be faster.

[@ekphotography]

External SSD are cheap these days and a no-brainer over the Apple upgrade internally.

[@EdU-od5ec]

@@ekphotography Name me one 1TB TB4 drive that is cheap. Externals are not at the same speed as internal. TB4 drives are still expensive, and not as reliable to work off, and are still slower than a good internal NVMe drive. IMO externals should only be used as back up.

[@ekphotography]

@@EdU-od5ec Many are better than internals and plenty fast enough for any program or work, you need to research. Almost every video on KZbin tells people NOT to get the apple upgraded hard drives and to get external Hard drives, I have been doing that for years and they work just as good.

[@BarisYener]

There is zero comparison to newer pc tech in this video. Highlighting the benefits of apple silicon and comparing it to the photo-dudes 9th Gen Intel computer from 2018... That doesn't help anybody but your wallet. I'm sorry but you are better then this. This here tastes like typical apple propaganda.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Not everyone has the budget to upgrade to a newer PC every year. If you’re an enthusiast with a big wallet to upgrade every year, more power to you.

[@rudysal1429]

​@@HardwareCanucks if you are buying a Mac at the moment, you should be comparing it to a new computer right now.

[@TabalugaDragon]

they even compared it to a 2015 Macbook. Why not from 2010? Why not a 2005 macbook to show how much better new Macbooks are?

[@BarisYener]

​@@HardwareCanucks You're presenting newst Apple Silicon so why not throw in comparisons based on new tech vs new tech? The Photo dude using Adobe Suite will have much better performance for the money with 13th Gen Intel on Windows 11. And it's easy nowadays to make a neat ITX System that dunks every Apple product for the money spent.

[@64BBernard]

@@BarisYener I agree. The Apple Mac wasn't that impressive. And if you're a photographer (not all of us want to be called "content creators" btw), you want lots of USB 3.2 ports so you can transfer large files from our CF-Express cards quickly, considering how large raw files can get with the increased megapixels of the latest mirrorless cameras.

[@analogicparadox]

If your objective is 3D rendering, you're better off buying this thing as a very expensive coaster.

[@akis9252]

These are not reviews but cheerleading for Apple. It's feels like an Apple ad.

[@mohamedabdo-yc2yd]

Never trust an apple geek 🙂

[@Kushari]

The issues you mentioned at the end are not an issue with apple silicon. It’s with the audio recording/editing software, this is known in the industry. Not an apple issue, it’s protools, and other plug-in software.

[@fluphybunny930]

This for those who can't afford ...... this one STARTS at $1300 🤣

[@TheBlackFoxMaster]

Надо банить такие видео и такие каналы.

[@Scar1709]

gaming ?

[@ftwtech]

If you can easily get this feedback from professionals, imagine how much better this computer would be if Apple did the same and actually took their input.

[@ole7736]

So you are not comparing it to an equally sized PC...

[@TabalugaDragon]

That was one of the longest ads I've ever seen.

[@m1ke400]

is this a joke? comparing a 2023 mac pro vs PC 5+ years old?

[@te86a]

Regular M2 Mac mini starts at $599

[@simulatedFeelings]

Hi. Audio not in sync.

[@FatherManus]

An impressive device but its a non starter for someone like me that wants to game, upgrade and service their own computer, or use Windows.

[@andyH_England]

It is tech advancement. You are living in the past where you think these features were important. They are no longer relevant. We have seen from ARM in tablets and phones that they do not need to be serviced apart from replacing the battery. Gaming is an issue due to MS's inability to make WOA usable. Once MS gets their ARM software in the 21st century, gaming on Macs will be great via BootCamp or a VM. That will also solve your Windows compatibility. As for upgrades, we cannot upgrade smartphones and tablets that can cost as much or even more, so you need to compare like with like; ARM is not X86.

[@FatherManus]

@@andyH_England These features are important and always will be. Neither you nor Apple get to tell me what features I and the millions of PC players are allowed to want and have. There is never going to be any advancement that makes the option of self serving your own computer not better. Apple’s computers suck at playing PC games, expandability, price to performance and hardware customization. Don’t compare a smartphone phone to a computer. A smartphone is too small to upgrade with any practicality. Not the case with computers. If I want to add 6 TBs of internal storage to my computer’s storage I can do that for less than $150. You can’t on any Apple computer. If my cpu dies I can replace it whenever I want myself. If I want more RAM I can swap it out in less than 2 minutes. You would need to buy a whole new Mac computer to do any of these upgrades. PCs are better for the user, better for the environment as there is less wasted components and better for raw graphical performance.

[@andyH_England]

@@FatherManus you are a niche user. I know nobody that desires what you seem to suggest should be default. Hopefully, some OEMs will still allow the features you want. The long term is that we will move more and more towards non modular PCs. An example is electric vehicles, they have about 100th of the components that a combustion engine has, and much harder to service yourself, but this is how technology advances, and eventually you will see that.

[@FatherManus]

@@andyH_England No, I am the majority. Most people in the world use Windows PCs and most PCs are self serviceable. And don’t pretend you are just reporting how things are, you actively support our products being less serviceable and less modular. Apple users would support colon cancer if Apple released an iColon and told you it was the future. Less complicated cars should mean the car is more serviceable, not less. Electric cars are made less serviceable on purpose because they want to control your product after they sell it to you. Modular PCs are going nowhere as nobody owns the PC market. Even if Microsoft was insane enough to try we would just migrate to Linux. Self serviceable cars are going nowhere. Even with the attempt by car manufacturers, there are too many cars on the market not doing this nonsense and there are too many alternatives to lock us out of choosing a traditional car.

[@andyH_England]

@@FatherManus Smartphones are the most popular PCs, and they sell 1.4 billion units a year and are non-serviceable (SOC). Laptops sell around 250 million units a year. You are just using your own take to justify your desires when the reality is far from what you suggest. The trend is away from modular; modular dating back 30+ years, and facts tell us it could be better in cost, QC, performance, etc. I checked out the top 10 selling ultrabooks; nine have soldered RAM!

[@idzkk]

😮

[@PradyumnVij]

Zero inspiration to buy this product so far.

[@HDRPC]

He was using 9 th gen Intel CPU with rtx 2070. 9 th gen igpu don't have hardware media engines which 11 gen to 13 gen has. X86 is already becoming super efficient. Meteorlake, arrow lake and lunar lake are just around the corner. Creators must use PC for any workloads. That'sit.

[@racerex340]

Yeah, even AMD who hasn't gone big/little yet, their mobile 7945HX is a beast, 7940HS is no slouch either with some serious GPU horsepower, the Radeon 780M in the Ryzen 7940HS blows the doors off of an RTX 1650 and GTX 1050 Ti discrete GPU's and it's an APU. We all know what the Ryzen 7900X and 7950/7950X are capable of, but no one other than Divinci is extracting much out of the Ryzen 7000 iGPU. Part of the problem is that HEVC/H.264 will remain Intel dominated, as even though AMD updated AMF, Quick Sync is so far ahead with HEVC/H.264, but other encoding like IntraFrame (like ProRes or DNx) and RAW (BRAW or RED), AMD is beginning to pull past Intel Quick sync with iGPU/APU performance. As long as the applications make use of updated AMF, the 7940HS is likely competitive with M2 Pro today, and it's feasible that the 7945HX could be competitive with M2 Ultra, but again it will be dependent on the devs of Resolve, Premiere and others to put the time in to optimize for it, and they do that for Apple because Apple owns so much of the production / content market, and up until recently, Intel PC's made up 90%of the PC community and AMD Ryzen only really just got iGPU's with Ryzen 7000, no one wanted to bother when it was just the Ryzen mobile APU's and a couple of Ryzen 5 G SKU's to optimize for, market was too small. It's my fear is that while AMD has captured serious marketshare with Ryzen over the past 5 years, the majority of Ryzen desktop users are Ryzen 3000 and 5000 series without integrated graphics, there likely won't be enough for anyone to want to bother for quite some time.

[@trickyrat483]

Apple advertisement. I'm hope they paid you handsomely.

[@therealist2000]

I don't think I can get used to macOS, thank God for WSL 2 in terms of using linux terminal.

[@cs_mns]

this is how a 100.000$ sponsor ad looks like.

[@quincyfreeman2901]

Sup.

[@MrMilkyCoco]

Honestly this is why amd is so stuck on just servers and gaming. Apple and nvidia have almost all of the creator space on lockdown.

[@racerex340]

Intel and AMD sell a ton into the creator space in the form of GP CPU's, and AMD still has a decent piece of the creator GPU market, but Apple is the only one who can claim that they not only own the lions share of creator market, they do so on an end-to-end closed-loop ecosystem. Nvidia doesn't' care about creators anymore, they see Apple taking more of that space and can't compete outside of the small niche that PC carves out, Nvidia cares about datacenter, particularly AI/ML and other GPU accelerated workloads.

[@hawkeyes4768]

🤡🤡🤡🤡 windows mini pc completely wreck this garbage amd new apus benchmarks alone make thw m2 look like a toy

[@aidanmaguire4740]

Do you want a. Medal or a chest to pin it on? Still not buying a Mac lol

[@Vladek16]

did I just watch a 16 min ad for the worst consumer electronic company in existence ? How many stupid and anti-consumer ideas has Apple pushed to the market ? And you make a huge ad for them just because they have an efficient chip ?

[@TabalugaDragon]

yep, maybe they wouldn't be so bad if they didn't solder everything and didn't ask for insane amounts of money for upgrades which are much cheaper on PC they'd be ok. But at their current state I wish they went bankrupt.

[@bradleycochran4595]

Do you have any thoughts on the Mac Studio?

[@HardwareCanucks]

Hope to get hands on that soon.

[@racerex340]

I think it's expensive, and absolutely pointless to buy until they release the M2 Ultra chip in it.

[@bradleycochran4595]

@@racerex340 Thank you so much.

[@racerex340]

@@bradleycochran4595 very welcome. You're probably going to be waiting a bit, Apple will likely refresh the Pro first with the M2 ultra before they refresh the studio, if they refresh the studio first, people would buy that and barely anyone would buy the Pro.

[@phaZed9]

Gives stats for Apple vs. Apple comparison - but no one has any idea what PC's were being run and what those specs were... seems like an unfair comparison. A top-end PC still bludgeons the Mac in most cases. Music production? Super simple for any modern system to do. Maya? Mac would be blown out the water - negating any desire for a real professional to use a Mac for 3D.. as it takes 2-4x as long... but at least you saved .052 cents on your power bill. Lol.

[@iamtheai2759]

I just bought one…after two weeks….what an unreliable piece of crap. Huge regret. Will never buy Mac again.

[@anized6896]

Just buy an mac mini m1 maxed out. Saves some money and still get a top notch product.