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@MikkoRantalainen 20 сағат бұрын
4:50 I think you should have moved the CPU can to the other side of the tower even if it gets close to another fan. This is because most tower coolers have pretty dense fin pack and you need lots of pressure to push air through and you cannot accomplish that effective by sucking air. Update: I see you did this later. Good job!
@CrazyAboutVinylRecords 20 сағат бұрын
The catch with Razer is not only the price. It is also that they will not allow you to buy the Razer laptop you want equipped the way you want it. And for the ridiculous prices they demand, customers should be able to be a total Burger King (have everything their way). I was going to order a Blade 18 in Mercury with a 4K IPS panel (I have my reasons for wanting this), which was an option on their website. Until I went to go place my order a few days ago. Now you can only buy it with a QHD Mini-LED display. Oh, and the price went up to $4,499. I want to game on a laptop, not play games with Razer over their rigid and inflexible configuration options. They are a terrible, customer unfriendly company with the worst value for money in the industry.
@Swankensteiner 21 сағат бұрын
The 9800X3D ran almost everything better including DOUBLING the 1% lows in Spiderman remaster from 82 to 165 and used 10% less power on average. I will be turning this mofo ON on my mobo. I don't play Warhammer 3 or Starfield anyway.
@JasperSkallow 21 сағат бұрын
I don't think I'll ever play at 720p
@DavidCarreras-f2v 21 сағат бұрын
What’s a good headset for p5 no echo
@DavidCarreras-f2v 21 сағат бұрын
What’s a good headset for p5??
@StaySic4Ever 21 сағат бұрын
Windows and games should be able to extract top performance from a CPU without manual test-tweaking per game basis. Are we going to need AI for this, or they will properly code.
@oleksiikhmelov2411 23 сағат бұрын
Question regarding negative impact of shared bandwidth - will it still be the case if I use Bluetooth mouse and keyboard?
@m2chip 23 сағат бұрын
I currently have an se 2022, I am getting a 15 pro brand new very soon because some places still have it in stock and it’s better than the normal 16 overall
@seanstuchbery 23 сағат бұрын
tl;dw: the answer is 100%
@Scronx-mc3uj 23 сағат бұрын
I dont think this should be the case with variable differences with different motherboards. Amd should incorporate this feature in their software. Even if it’s a motherboard feature amd can itself change the smt/clock speeds from the software and give similar experiences to all the users.
@es5568 Күн бұрын
Nobody play 720p lol
@ye849 Күн бұрын
This sounds more like handicapped mode. Welcome to the 2020s marketing. Also, from your task manager screenshot it also disables HT as you had 6 cores not 12
@soulshinobi Күн бұрын
What brand is that sweater? Looks great, nice texture.
@sufian-ben Күн бұрын
Yeah Nah, i don't have time for these Gymnastics lol I use Process Lasso, its cheap, does better than turning off a whole CCD to make games stick to one, i can still have my 32 threads, and has lifetime updates with single purchase.
@HasanBabasi Күн бұрын
I am not sure but I thought that I saw a turbo mode option on my asrock motherboard.
@MrDidifar Күн бұрын
It will be a forgettable feature unless it can be done directly inside OS environment..
@TeeDee-j9u Күн бұрын
Keep dreaming that it should 1000 and its premium phone, King of Phablets
@filbertneon3813 Күн бұрын
Great review! Thanks.
@PierceGibbss Күн бұрын
Good video , been waiting on some testings, but you guys should have included the 7950X3D as its both dual CCD with 8 cores and has 3D V-cache.
@imribiy Күн бұрын
Well I guess it's a bit bad timing. Because ASRock just dropped their implementation of Turbo Mode just today
@HardwareCanucks Күн бұрын
Yeah I think I'll add that to the corrections tab KZbin has.
@me-hk4ic Күн бұрын
It sounds like the fans are hitting something? 12:36
@XxXDeadlykingdxXxX Күн бұрын
What kind of psycho "angles" their keyboard?
@Zinj1000 Күн бұрын
I feel like you payed scalpers to get your 9800s
@HardwareCanucks Күн бұрын
Nope. We got one from AMD and purchased two from Best Buy Canada.
@GeoffSeeley Күн бұрын
Ultimately this is a band-aid that cripples the hardware in some ways when it should really be the OS and/or game developers coding the software to dynamically query and use the NUMA architecture of the CPU it runs on. Unfortunately, the consumer space is well behind the enterprise space where some of this has been worked out already as software might have to deal with hundreds of cores across multiple physical CPUs (like a CCD technically).
@bryanhumburg7894 Күн бұрын
Good for valorant?
@Γιώργος-λ4σ Күн бұрын
What's the point of buying a 16/12 core CPU if I need to half their core counts every time I want to game.. a lot of people buy the higher count cores to edit/stream WHILE gaming as well..
@HardwareCanucks Күн бұрын
Because you have the high core count when you need it and the frequencies when you don't.
@ELCrisler Күн бұрын
To make this a really useful potential feature AMD needs to incorporate this into Radeon software so Turbo Mode can be enabled on a per game basis and not forced to be used all the time either on or off. A lot of people will not want to jump in and out of BIOS as their needs change. Putting this into Radeon software and allowed to be tied to specific games would make this much more meaningful in my opinion.
@HardwareCanucks Күн бұрын
This isn't an AMD feature though.
@ELCrisler Күн бұрын
@@HardwareCanucks well sort of, I mean it is based from a feature it appears was introduced in a base BIOS update from AMD. I do get some of the "secret" sauce others are backing in could not be done this way, but the base system could be.
@jordan-mn6yy Күн бұрын
All i hear is that some games lose performance, so its a no from me
@HardwareCanucks Күн бұрын
Then you missed all the games that benefit from it.
@commanderoof4578 Күн бұрын
Points at process lasso... just use that god damn it...
@HardwareCanucks Күн бұрын
This is a one click solution. Process Lasso is a LOT more involved.
@commanderoof4578 Күн бұрын
@ open game, open process lasso... Find game in list, right click, affinity, always, cpu affinity When the new window opens click a CCD options and then click ok and your done Sure it is more involved but it also isnt because once you have done it once you can do it again without issues The issue with this 1 click game nuke is that anytime you want it on or off its a trip to the bios where as process lasso just automatically sets the affinity anytime you open the game or program
@johnbryan9200 Күн бұрын
Iv had my original cloud alpha when it got first released, probably 7 years ago, it's Bulletproof, I don't game anymore so I use it for music and djing, and when djing it gets blasted at high volume, very durable, and good sound
@andrewtomilin6942 Күн бұрын
Is there is any info when reviosion 2 will come off?
@striker241186 Күн бұрын
Awesome video, thanks for all the info. I just tested the turbo mode on my Aorus mainboard with my 9800x3d in 4-5 games and compared it to stock. I saw an uplift in every game. I'm gonna run it for a while and see how it goes
@HardwareCanucks Күн бұрын
Which games?
@striker241186 21 сағат бұрын
@@HardwareCanucks Hey. I'll try to show the data as short and understandable as possible here in this comment: Dragon Age The Veilguard - X3D Turbo - <OFF> - Avg 153.1 FPS - Min 132.9 FPS - <ON> - Avg 165.6 (+8.2%) FPS - Min 140.3 FPS (+5.5%) --- Remnant 2 - X3D Turbo - <OFF> - Avg 174.0 FPS - Min 140.5 FPS - <ON> - Avg 185.2 FPS (+6.4%) - Min 160.7 FPS (+14.4%) --- A Plague Tale Requiem - X3D Turbo - <OFF> - Avg 198.8 FPS - Min 168.1 FPS - <ON> - Avg 206.8 FPS (+4%) - Min 166.6 FPS (-0.9%) --- Hogwarts Legacy - X3D Turbo - <OFF> - Avg 168.0 FPS - Min 137.5 FPS - <ON> - Avg 179.8 FPS (+7%) - Min 151.7 FPS (+10.3%) --- I also tried Black Myth Wukong but couldn't get out of the GPU limit. The only negative number I got was the 0.1% Framerate in Dragon Age Veilguard. With X3D Turbo ON I saw there quite huge fps drops.
@gamingforalaugh77 Күн бұрын
Do I NEED to update the bios?
@gamingforalaugh77 Күн бұрын
Do I need 2 usb drive one for windows and one for the update because I only have one usb drive
@jamesputney-lw8qy Күн бұрын
im still useing G602 from 2016
@b1lleman Күн бұрын
keep on doing your stuff the way you want to. For me it's refreshing to see another approach to things. Thank you.
@sligit Күн бұрын
I dont understand why this needs to he a bios thing. In Linux you can basically do this at runtime with affinity settings. My desktop is a VM with PCI passthrough and its startup script pins its QEMU threads to a single CCD. I dont lock off the SMT virtual cores though. I presume you can do something similar in Windows?
@HardwareCanucks Күн бұрын
You don't want it to be software based because then you'll be forced to install Armory Crate, GB Control Center, etc.
@chunk3875 Күн бұрын
It's not really worth getting anything past 8 cores for gaming.
@porksandbean Күн бұрын
untouchable because it causes fires?
@CPUjunkie Күн бұрын
Process Laso or equivalent app.
@Psychx_ Күн бұрын
OK so these BIOS tweaks are 99% to mitigate the Windows scheduler. There's already software that can pin threads to specific CPU cores out there and "Ryzen optimized" games are supposed to do that by themselves. I've noticed that lowering tRFC is also beneficial on Ryzen 5000. It lowers DRAM latency quite a bit, but need thorough stress testing and a safety margin for increased temperatures (where the DRAM cells lose their charge faster).
@HardwareCanucks Күн бұрын
Correct. Windows is shit. Tell us something we don't know. 🙃
@_neuromanser_ Күн бұрын
No reason to turn it on on 9950x
@HardwareCanucks Күн бұрын
I'd argue that's the CPU that most needs it.
@_neuromanser_ 22 сағат бұрын
@@HardwareCanucks Unless I read the charts wrong, benefit is is not that high (in my subjective opinion), and for that you must give up on all extra performance that's used outside of the games. This expensive CPU is not purchased for gaming in the first place, only to be crippled to 8c/8t, but even with default settings behaves pretty good in modern games.
@xrix89 Күн бұрын
How about dual CCD ryzens with just SMT off? 32 threads are way too much for most games, while 16 real threads should be optimal.
@HardwareCanucks Күн бұрын
You'd still get the issue we highlighted with some tasks being shunted to the second CCD.
@gamingfromjohnwayne Күн бұрын
Seen 12 fps fro. 80 to 92 4k with 4070ti super god of war ragnarok
@HardwareCanucks Күн бұрын
That's actually better than I thought.
@gamingfromjohnwayne Күн бұрын
My rog strix b650e-f has new turno mode in bios when i updated it😊and yes was a big difference with 7 7700 non x
@andrewstonehouse Күн бұрын
At 3.37. Chart names are wrong. They have listed the ROG X870 as Maximus. Maximus is Intel boards. This should read Crosshair Hero
@HardwareCanucks Күн бұрын
Yeah we listed a correction.
@thedarkangelpt Күн бұрын
Do what it does for 7800x3d?
@HardwareCanucks Күн бұрын
We showed it in the 7000 series testing portion.
@cfischrun115 Күн бұрын
Where's that wallpaper on the computer behind you from?
@HardwareCanucks Күн бұрын
Wallhaven. It's an amazing wallpaper.
@Vermilicious Күн бұрын
I don't think this option is meaningful, and it certainly shouldn't be a BIOS option. Rather, the scheduler in Windows needs to improve.
@HardwareCanucks Күн бұрын
Sure but until that point where the Windows Scheduler improves, hardware manufacturers are doing everything they can to properly up performance.