A Deep Dive Into Monster High

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Today let's take a look at the iconic Monster High! While it may seem like an innocent, if not spooky doll line filled with colorful creatures and cryptids, there's a LOT to cover, from outraged parents to fandom drama to countless reboots and comebacks! I always loved the dolls as a kid, and being one of the first prominent/mainstream alternative fashion dolls, it has a long and rich history, and as tons of fans (and detractors!) So let's dive into the drama-filled and freaky fabulous world of Monster High!
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Spark / Vylet Pony • 【Music】Spark
Petz Catz 2 OST
LuKremBo - Sunset/Tower/Marshmallow/Store
Small Circuits / From Now On [Provided by Epidemic Sound]
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0:00 Introduction
3:44 A His-scary Of Monster High
9:01 Claw-troversies
15:09 Okay Back To The Hisssssstory
21:58 The Five Beast And Worst Dolls
26:58 The Frightful Reboot
38:48 The Instagram AMA Scare-ndal
43:28 Monster High Mediarghhhh
50:17 The Fang-dom
54:52 Conclusion
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All credit goes to the musicians and composers! This video is not meant to target or harass any person. This video does not condone or encourage anyone to harass or contact any person or persons discussed in this video. This video is purely for entertainment and informational purposes.

[@PhilomathWizard]

Monster High was so important that a girl who had tragically lost her leg who was in my class painted her fake leg to look like copper because of Rebecca Steam, and everyone (girl) called her Steam because of the character. Literally coolest moment, its one of those memories that you never forget and you just... attach it to your brain

[@august936]

Aww that’s so wholesome!

[@Speed_Zamaa]

Cool

[@Delihlah]

I love this, just wanted to say her name is Robecca Steam :) like a steam robot

[@EnderEntertain]

Wow that’s so freaking cool

[@rattonleash8536]

That is beautiful

[@jays.6843]

Me, a 30 year old man with no interest in dolls: HOW DARE THEY CHANGE HER DESIGN, SHE WAS AN ICON

[@bloatedcorpse2728]

i love this comment 🤣

[@Lyssastarss]

This made me snort, thank you random 30 year old man 😭😭😭

[@sxnxstervxbes3689]

Respect 😂👏

[@Live_Laugh_Loathe]

go off king

[@SoulSlugArts]

Honestly me too Me too Slay king

[@midnashadow8439]

Parents: “skelita is a girl who starved herself to death! Bravo Mattel!” All of Mexico: “fuck my culture right?”

[@rh1nestone3yes]

I think Skelita represents the Day of the Dead? Idk.. I watched the DOTD episode of Luna the Moon on PBS Kids like 2 years ago.

[@katarinadreams6955]

​@@rh1nestone3yes Coco?

[@MiguelGonzalez-du8de]

@@rh1nestone3yes Yeah it's Día de los Muertos in which culturally, the images of skeletons and skulls with paints and patterns are what represent the holiday. It's funny cuz Skelita is literally just another calaca that you've seen hundreds of time in Mexican products, like she's such an obvious fit to the Monster High universe for more culturally diverse characters, yet parents were still complaining despite her being one of the most accurate monsters in the franchise

[@arsenbrooks438]

​@@MiguelGonzalez-du8deI bet you they 'celebrate' the holiday too or at least consider the decor fun and bright/happy, but it's a problem on a doll?

[@catfish64115]

@@MiguelGonzalez-du8deAgreed! It’s so stupid how they think that she’s culturally appropriated 🤦

[@ariszjimenez8426]

Is it me or the idea of a buff mermaid guy on a wheelchair is like the coolest thing i ever seen Mattel do

[@moethemoon]

For real I was impressed by that, I would’ve never thought of it

[@snuffy5321]

Also calling him Finnegan Wake lol

[@Xi3lian]

Frrr but honestly, I really don’t like the face model with the hair. I think it looks cool, but he also kind of just looks bald 😭

[@sophiekrueger4719]

You know, looking at him with that name, mermaid would be a good catch all descriptor but specifically I think he would be a Merrow (Irish mermaid, can be sort of horrifying in legend). Don't mind me splitting hairs with the classification of merfolk.

[@sandradermark8463]

​@@snuffy5321and that literary allusion name... How many kids would get it?

[@carolinewheeler77]

As a fat girl, I can say that skinny dolls never bothered me as a kid. They just didn’t really register as human to me honestly.

[@aestasol]

as i kid the only memory i have of their bodies is being like 7 and thinking the curve of their backs was really weird and funny looking lol

[@gabiq1233]

agreed. as long as i can remember i was always insecure of my body. i was OBSESSED with dolls and barbie’s and never once did i compare them to myself. i think seeing that they weren’t real and half the time couldn’t even bend their elbows i didn’t see them as real

[@meh563]

same. I knew that they were not supposed to be realistic since they're dolls lol

[@purplecatonbroadway]

Same, like I understood they were stylized and monsters. Like they look like a cotton ball on a stick, I didn't think I should look like that

[@groundmeat3837]

As a fat kid I’d occasionally ponder on stuff like why their butts had a wack mold on them or why they are on their tippy toes 24/7 but never did i ever use my dolls for comparison. I just thought they were cool and i wanted to have their style of clothing.

[@rkkwc]

obsessed with the girls in testing who said frankie stein had to be green. these queens did so much for us

[@therandomshow_]

The secret heroes of Monster High, the Queens from Testing. Hope they are thriving now

[@emiliobustamante2401]

Its true kids sometimes just take in whatever mediocre media its cynicaly shved in their faces, but also, sometimes do really know what they want and have good taste. Or at least a fresh perspective

[@elisanoro]

Fr!! Who the hell thinks girls don’t like green?? I absolutely love green which was one of the reasons Frankie was my fav!! 😂😂

[@MISSWORLD444]

Honestly

[@spiwolf6998]

To be fair in Mary Shelley's book it's described as "yellow".

[@letsalllovelean478]

I never realized how whiny adults were growing up. My mom hated the body types, but she told me to not use my dolls as an expectation of what body type I wanted, and to just have fun. Since monster high had a lot of POC-coded characters such as Lagoona and Clawdeen, she was more than happy to give a little brown girl like me these dolls for Christmas. You can’t expect kids to instantly know self-confidence from birth, you have to teach them. Don’t be like the whiny adults in the monster high reviews.

[@samsalamander8147]

I think I was more excited about the dolls than my Daughter was but she absolutely loved Monster High dolls. She still has a bunch of them saved. She is 16 now.

[@letsalllovelean478]

@@samsalamander8147 That's so sweet! It's nice to hear parents supporting their kids.

[@saraifuentes9821]

Lagoona is poc coded?

[@letsalllovelean478]

@@saraifuentes9821 In a sense, yes. She dealt with racism from both Gil, and the freshwater people.

[@missauroraroseblairsays]

​@@saraifuentes9821 i always considered her Indigenous Australian that loved nature and surfing (probably a stereotype now that I think about it) as a kid

[@creampuff_animates_owo]

Spectra Vondergeist's transparent limbs always fascinated me as a kid, making her become my favorite doll (or should I say GRAVEorite)

[@pastelrave7432]

That was good. You really KILLED it lol

[@slurpee4203]

@@pastelrave7432im in stitches laughing at your comment😭😉

[@OracleOfTime234]

You can see your way out.

[@spicyflour7468]

you shouldnt

[@oss1883]

I’ve literally never wanted my body to look like a dolls, what made me insecure was my parents.

[@AllergyAngelXOXO]

Fr mine always seem to make SOME kind a of comment of my body

[@buggy-boy]

same like dolls didn't give me body insecurities, that was my dad always talking about how i need to be more active and exercise so i won't be so fat 🙄

[@angienickerson9298]

i just wanted my fashion to be like theirs

[@honeyspice8989]

Truth lmao.

[@toastjam4510]

FORKRKEERE FOR REALLL Telling me I can’t wear this cause I’m black isn’t really something a doll could do for me

[@eevaanh8386]

honestly monster high sent a way better message for kids than more “tame and classic” dolls like barbie, mh had a lot more diversity and was able to have that diversity becuase the ghouls literally weren’t human, they weren’t a particular race. also mh sent the message that you don’t need to fit in, your fashion and looks are fabulous how you are. plus some of the ghouls were definitely my gay awakening as a child

[@eevaanh8386]

another thing is that the ghouls never needed a man to help them, there weren’t really ever fights over boys, just friendship tussles.

[@myasmith1820]

@@eevaanh8386 💯

[@lonelytiger5011]

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[@CrowOfRoses]

Honestly I couldn't agree more (Frankie was my gay awakening and oh boy. I have so many Frankie dolls lol)

[@idiotsandwich115]

Right!!

[@minchic894]

I understand some points of the parents but when I was a kid I never realized their skinny proportions or sexy clothes, I just wanted to play with them. Nowadays I’m obsessed with these dolls because they’re a perfectly imperfect piece of art. I wish they’d sell more OG reproduction dolls for collectors.

[@internetexplorer6304]

My philosophy is this. It Not a problem if Barbie is skinny it becomes a problem if Barbie is the only option. The culture AROUND the doll is much more damaging and parents are putting their energy in the wrong place

[@ceilingfan6969]

Yes, as a child I just thought the proportions were a classic style for dolls in general. They never affected my perception of my own body or the body of anyone else.

[@origamifox1331]

Yeah I have body issues from other stuff, i never played with dolls as a kid (too “girly” for me, yeesh I was annoying) but I still knew that’s just how they looked.

[@peacock.spooder]

Also its complicated to give dolls different body types because then you cant switch their clothes. Personally, i always liked to switch the different dolls outfits

[@arsenbrooks438]

​@@peacock.spooderI think that's excusing a very wealthy company who absolutely can afford to make more clothing that is larger, but doesn't. If they made more dolls outside of barbies specific mold it only would make sense to have to make more clothes too, but they only have like at most a few but usually one. One down syndrome doll, 1 plus sized doll, they even discontinued a wheel chair barbie bc they "couldn't redesign the dream house to accommodate her". Excusing this is sorta pretending that they are telling the truth, that they actually can't make these things when they can.

[@asleepforeverever]

When i was a child and played with the dolls, i literally never ever thought 'i wish i was skinny like her..' kids don't care about that stuff. They just wanna play with their dolls. Even at 10 i didnt think that.

[@guccisilkmilk2571]

I agree when I was younger I never compared myself to dolls

[@emsfofems]

literally all I wanted was their luscious hair 😂

[@eerinahisakawa3416]

the only thing i wanted from them was their outfits and I STILL DO

[@elliot_rat]

​@@eerinahisakawa3416your milo icon is simply the truth

[@kayleighbrown459]

I don't think it's the fact that kids don't think about that stuff, cause as much as we like to pretend that kids have no issue with body image, we know that's not true. I know for a fact that I had issues with body image and even though I didn't care TOO much as a 10 year old, I sure as hell cared as a 13 year old. (Although high school certainly didn't help.) That's the issue people are getting at when they complain about this kinda stuff, because although a literal child might not care about it, the minute puberty kids in, it can suddenly because a very big issue if they have a pre-existing idea of what it's acceptable to look like. Instead, I think the fact of the matter is simply that even at a young age, kids recognise stylisation. No, I wasn't skinny, but I also didn't have a head the size of a beachball. Kids, even at a young age, can tell the difference between cartoony things and realistic things. This is why I think it's more important for Barbie and more realistic dolls to have this kinda rep than the cartoony ones.

[@dougdimmadomeownerofdimmsd770]

"the dolls set unrealistic standards and will give our kids body image issues" no mom thats your doing 😭

[@purplecatonbroadway]

Yeah I never felt like I needed to look like a doll, and even thought dolls looked really off compared to people, but my mom did waaaaay worse than a doll could ever dream to

[@lunos5026]

they really said that then said “yeah!…. go play with a barbie!”

[@himikotoga4270]

Bro I wasn't thinking about that as a child I just played with them and was like yahh cool dolls

[@dawyabentlhoussain4218]

ong

[@gallusmacclure4107]

😂😂😂😭😭😭

[@ghostmchaunted604]

I feel like this is a small detail, but when i got Clawdeen as a kid, in the little diary that came with her, it said that she needed to shave frequently bc her hair grew too quickly and honestly as a child I always took comfort in that, since im a hairy girl and all haha I just thought it was cool that I could relate, and it made me feel better even if it was just for a moment.

[@sonicrockz1011]

The journal entry never said her body hair was bad which I like, just that shaving made her feel fabulous

[@mose918]

yeah i think as a very hairy kid i would much rather have had some acknowledgment of body hair just as a concept than blatantly ignoring it. at least i would have known i wasnt the only hairy girl on earth lol

[@talkingraccoon525]

unrelated but i remember how much i loved my frankie doll's "tummy pouch." all dolls were skinny, but it felt as if only the monster highs didn't have a flat stomach, and as a chubby kid it did make me feel better about myself versus the barbies that were pretty flat. i bet if i had gotten a clawdeen at 11 it wouldve helped me too with my hair insecurities

[@Kadriana_Little]

It did the same for me. Speaking of I just bought a creeproduction clawdeen and I’m so excited to get her in the mail.

[@chlomentine]

that’s beyond sweet actually i’m gonna sob

[@flaiirenn]

as a kid, dolls never gave me negative body issues. i knew that they weren't real, and was aware that their unrealistic proportions would be very weird on an actual human body. they just didn't come across as human. dolls look cool, and so i'd obsess over their clothes/hair more.

[@thosefroggyfolks2004]

It’s so interesting to hear these parents clutch their pearls at Monster High because my own mother couldn’t have given less of a shit about little me playing with them. In fact, she thought some of the dolls were really cool. She especially liked how Skelita was molded to actually look like a skeleton. Honestly, a lot of her sentiment was probably because when she was younger, she was quite the tomboy and most toys made for girls back then were very stereotypically girly. So I think she was happy that I got the chance to enjoy something that she didn’t get to.

[@indefinitestew6346]

I am super thankful that my mom liked monster high and let me play with them. She LOVED Skelita and I am so sad she never bought one!

[@blossomedits_1]

my mom loved all of my dolls that i had, and so did my dad. they both hung out with me and played with them with me, and they loved literally every doll i had, and they still love them

[@softhxe4664]

same my mum loved getting me and my sister monster high dolls 🥺

[@theskywingartist]

I mom also loved the dolls- But she was also emo in highschool along with brutalizing all her barbies sooo

[@writetoaprisoner]

If monster high was a masculine toy targeted to young boys I promise you the parents would care less about the “sinister” monster themes

[@nicholaslienandjaja1815]

In other words, it will be like what Digimon is to Tamagotchi: A “boys’” version of a stereotypically feminine toy (remember the commercials for Tamagotchi and Digimon? The former tend to feature girls, the latter tend to feature boys (even though there are boys who like Tamagotchi and girls who like Digimon)).

[@melodicaheart415]

This is… so true

[@cameronmcewen9666]

There already boys in the franchise, but they don’t act as the protagonists.

[@marty1450]

Those parents that complained about the dolls are 100% those who actually gave self-esteem issues to their own daughters.

[@_ivanche]

Honestly though. Children aren't born with the knowledge of what beauty standards are and what sexuality is. They literally don't care until someone tells them they should.

[@pinkybear8082]

I can't understand people who blame dolls or celebrities or anything else on their own problems. I have luckily always been very confident and I have never ever been comparing myself to others. But that is not the case for most of the people, sadly. But blaming others and trying to point fingers is not gonna help. Those people need some help with the self esteem issues if it's not the parents, even a therapist would be a great option. We cannot possibly please every single person in this planet. Life is not fair and it's not anyones responsibility to make others feel good about themselves. Like if you are not happy with yourself, it's your responsibility to heal yourself. You are 100% right with your comment. 👌

[@sayu2844]

@@_ivanche This!

[@happybalint]

I thought the exact same thing

[@nilladrawsstuff]

*laughs in I've dealt with this bullshit my whole life and thats why I wasn't allowed to have Bratz dolls*

[@forkgarbage5951]

The controversies that happened with monster high regarding their clothing and the parents response, especially the one that said that girls who dress like that want attention, really makes you realize how illy girls are talked about especially with parents teaching their kids, and how the idea that girls are allowed to look nice for themselves or that they dress because it makes them feel comfortable, expressive, confident, etc, is never seemed to be an option

[@meh.3918]

I actually had a long going war between my Monster High and Ever After High dolls. I'll never forget the time Draculaura sacrificed herself to save Clawdeen (pretty sure I had them marry each other) and Lagoona when they were trapped in a prison camp. I might have been a kinda dark kid lol

[@evabible9770]

OMG I DID THIS TOO My Raven was having a star crossed romance with Porter Geist despite them being on different sides of the war. Also Porter was my only guy doll so literally everyone else was lesbian lol

[@meh.3918]

@evabible9770 lmaooo I think I had 4 cause I had Duce, Slo Mo, Hunter, and a Ken doll but I literally made Duce and Slo Mo fall in love everytime because I thought their colors looked good together lol

[@teddy-1965]

For C.A Cupid’s redesign and how it conflicts with the bone elemental theory, I was personally always under the impression that her Monster High design was what she actually looks like and the Ever After High design was just a glamour she used to blend in a bit more

[@salemkitty5786]

I always assumed that too

[@spacecowboy7148]

I wanted to share this because I remembered a crossover being mentioned in 2019 or somewhere around that time; kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWTdYqVnfrqhhKc

[@yvaincallipso84]

That's so sad though, she moves to a school where she feels like she has to "soften" herself to fit in

[@JT5555]

that honestly makes a lot of sense since no one at ever after high would be used to seeing a straight up MONSTER as a student and they are all already kind of stuck in their roles as "good guys" and "bad guys" so if she showed up in her original form then she'd have just been assumed to be a villain and likely be feared as one.

[@Intoxicatingaxe]

Agreed

[@gumballemo8095]

I dont know about Skelita, I remember here in Mexico she was a huge hit among a lot of my female classmates and me. It was my favorite because of the representation and of course because of the themes of day of the dead. Definetly not on the same scale as of the other dolls, maybe in a foreigner's eyes yes but mexican culture being represented in any positive light outside of Mexico for us is an absolute win.

[@elenat.a8297]

De echo si mi madre me la compro porque penso que era una catrina

[@yungzyzzle]

yes !! including jinafire

[@foxxi4501]

Ah yes!!! Same here I was so happy when they released an animated short of her💕

[@galaxymew5138]

As a Hispanic myself, me personally, (can't speak for others) I absolutely ADORED Skelita! I found it so cool to have my culture represented in a cool way!

[@flooryan8332]

@@yungzyzzle i ADORED jinafire, I would beg my mom to get me one for my birthday but she was never in stock where I lived lol

[@maddiehopp5998]

My mom actually loved the idea of monster high dolls, and to this day I’m in college and she’ll text me about the limited edition dolls. She fully encouraged these types of dolls because of the creativity and diversity. Personally my favorite doll was Operetta or Venus McFlytrap

[@jstarstudios7110]

Awww, Operetta was my mom's favourite, too!!!

[@jalycechung1116]

my moms fav was venus because of her shaved head!!

[@joeiWRLD]

growing up with parents that were more alternative and a heavy liking for spooky things, monster high became a huge childhood staple for me due to their lean towards alt fashion which I was already drifting towards at a young age. Having dolls that my parents actually liked because of their uniqueness and understanding of my interest in monsters at the time was a huge deal for me, I didn't even know that other parents disproved of it until I became a teenager

[@AroundTheBlockAgain]

Plot twist!

[@lexiegonzalez5605]

As a plus size girl, I’ve never once felt badly about my body when I played with these dolls. They all had the same body so I never thought anything of it. I freaking loved monster high so much as a kid

[@lilysnape6520]

It's literally the society who teach plus-size-people to hate themselves, not some dolls.Also this means, that you can dress up in everything from the other dolls

[@glitter_unicorn3694]

Exactly! Same here. They're literally supposed to be just monsters. How stupid do parents think their kids are?

[@nicole35273]

i completely agree with this. monster high never made me feel bad about myself because they were so unrealistic. i think if they had introduced plus size characters it would have been a problem. i would have started thinking about it because id realize they couldnt wear any of the thinner characters clothing.

[@Hellokitty-sh7ps]

same i didnt care about the dolls body they was so pretty like how they look i just wanted to play with them i never thought that way

[@vivifoxysdaughterandchild544]

Kids literally never care about how dolls look unless their own parents are obsessed with appearances. All they see is a lovely and cool looking doll. Saying that as a woman who owned Barbies, Bratz and at least one Monster High doll growing up.

[@andibrimi]

No but Skelita is actually exceptionally well made? I bought it in my late teens because I really liked the design and to this day my mom places her on the altar she makes on Día de Muertos in my hometown. She's just actually very accurate and beautiful

[@celestee2264]

I know! As a Mexican too I loved the execution of her design, especially the papel picado skirt, that's a great touch. I didn't know she existed as a kid, but I would have loved to have her as well

[@alejandrocervantes3624]

Thank you for calling it "altar" rather than "ofrenda" (cringe) altar is what they taught me its actually called growing up lol

[@mothma_am]

@@alejandrocervantes3624 if you don't mind me asking, why is "altar" preferred over "ofrenda"? i'm not mexican myself, but i'd like to be as respectful as possible to my friends who celebrate it.

[@alejandrocervantes3624]

@@mothma_am dont worry Its more of a personal hang up really. The word "ofrenda" Can be aplied, but since ive noticed more people only started to call it "ofrenda" cause thats what they call it in "Coco", makes me kinda "icky" specially after the whole "atempting to buy a mexican holliday to sell our movie" also the full name its "altar de muertos" which transltes to "altar of the dead" which is so badass, as opossed to "ofrenda" that just means "offering" 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏾‍♂️🇲🇽

[@user-kz8pz3hz1s]

@@alejandrocervantes3624 wey, ofrenda y altar son terminos que se usan de igual manera en el dia de los muertos

[@spydersoup8447]

Actually, one thing about the Ever After High part of the story, it was actually originally going to be a sci-fi space themed spin-off of Monster High called Cosmic High, but due to the rising popularity of MGM's Novi Stars toy line at the time, Cosmic High ended up being canceled and replaced by Ever After High. So, if you guys are ever wondering about the post credits scene from the Monster High film Boo York! Boo York! where Astra Nova talks to Apple White and Raven Queen on her iCoffin, the scene now makes a lot of sense knowning all this.

[@soliarsystem]

there was also going to be a crossover, it was featured in one of the eah books too

[@spydersoup8447]

@@soliarsystem Yeah, I saw, and I also saw that a kitsune character was going to make her debut in that cross-over movie too.

[@leosmith7511]

I have a small collection, and I hope the creators know that some of the LGBT+ inspiration showed. I love Nathan, for some reason he really spoke to me both in his design and personality (such as it was). There was also a gargoyle girl named Rochelle who was trans colours (light blue, pink, and white), and her design felt "different" without being strange or off, so she has always been trans in my heart.

[@beller6719]

I also want to say that when Rochelle was introduced, she was on an all guy rollerskating team. She wore a helmet so none of them knew she was a girl and when all her guy teammates said that girls can't skate, she came out (lol) and joined up with our main cast essentially saying they inspired her to be true to herself. so yeah she's definitely an icon

[@leosmith7511]

@@beller6719 Amazing!! I didn't know that, and it makes me happy to hear.

[@P4VL0V4]

There’s also a scene (I think in Freaky Fusion) where she tells Lagoona she would like to swim but can’t because she’s “too heavy and will sink”. Obviously, she’s a stone gargoyle. But I also think maybe she still has body dysphoria. Swimsuits can be a big hurdle to jump.

[@faeustehoch]

@@beller6719 That was actually Robecca

[@beller6719]

@@faeustehoch no Robecca steam was the robot girl they put back together

[@xbmpr]

There is a massive problem with the body image issue. I remember as a kid having transformers and I hated myself because I couldn’t morph into a corvette.

[@RustyShackleford420]

Same but I still identify that way, my pronouns are bio/nicle

[@kisskissfallinlov3]

@@RustyShackleford420 Same i also identify like that, my pronouns are trans/former im also trans because of it

[@luk_143]

You know, my family gives me body image issues all the time. So it’s not the doll’s fault. It’s the parents!

[@dennisjaime1801]

LMAO

[@rune2O2O]

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[@user-do8ny9jl1e]

Mexican monster high og collector here!! Regarding the cultural appropriation matter with the designs here in Mexico isn't that much of a concern. In fact, Skelita and Isi are the most expensive and desired ghouls here in the collectors market in my experience. Me and my grandma who has been very close to the Wixarika culture (indigenous tribe that can be part of the inspiration for the elements Isi dawndancer has), loved the designs and as far as I know, most people here also love them. Specially Skelita who really started the hype, since her design is incredibly well made and iconic, and resembles very clearly a Catrina. I also wanted to talk about the skeleton boobs, which are also very culturally accurate here, ironically. Most of the time the image of a Catrina resembles an exaggerated body with a lot of curves, despite being a literal skeleton. This is a part of the Mexican culture that helps us see the death in a different light, it being a playful and carefree caricature we can make fun of in a respectful way rather than an evil spirit we have to be afraid of. I don't think the designs are offensive to my culture at all, since both characters never use their clothes as a costume or as a mockery, and in the other hand embrace deeply their roots and tradicional attire. I think it's more of a Cultural appreciation. :) Just wanted to give a little bit of my opinion as a Mexican collector myself. Great video!! 💞✨

[@beepboop8152]

Thanks for teaching me something new 🙂

[@lucyandecember2843]

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[@alphabetboy8569]

I also think that Isi Dawndancerwasn't offensive, because the Design team were very respectful about the Culture they borrowed, they didn't make her as a Wendigo but rather a deer spirit, in my Native Friend's opinion, it's indearing and light hearted

[@moylop]

This part, I’m also Mexican and never saw anything offensive in the doll, I think it’s just people trying to be offended, but not actual Mexicans, we loved this

[@h0nk_821]

YES MORE MEXICANS THAT LOVE SKELITA I ADORED HER AS A CHILD AND STILL DO HER DESIGN IS RLLY COOL‼️

[@ackity]

i absolutely love bonita femur, i feel like people don't appreciate her enough and that upsets me because i love her style and personality (i have a bunch of old mh magazines, (which i adore, i never threw them out and i'm so happy about that) where you learn more about her)

[@Theravingranter]

I remember getting emotional because Bonita had canon anxiety disorder and stressed about little things. I cherish this doll because she is so utterly gorgeous, probably the most beautiful MH doll ever made but also because she is like me in so many ways.

[@calypso6200]

Okay, but this jacket is genuinely the coolest merch I have ever seen

[@Northstarboysvsp]

Fr I want it

[@thatradfailure5197]

"The dolls barely wear any clothes!" Said about the dolls that literally wear more clothing items than Barbie. The old dolls had amazing quality, though. Doll customizers love them and I wish that I was more into these dolls as a kid because I love making customs now. I got a Venus McFlytrap, though, and I love her punk vibes, I'm keeping her as is

[@Morrynlupine]

Literally! Tbh, not sure about anyone else, but when I had Barbie dolls back when I was three, that first thing that always ended up happening was me ripping off and losing the clothes, so it was always just these nude lady dolls scattered around my room, lmao Something like Monster High would've been so much nicer since I would have actually like them and their fashion sense as opposed to barbie's dumb pink aesthetic that I hated sm. Even nowadays, when I look at og MH dolls I can't help by want to get into them.

[@nevermindmyparentsimthepunk]

@@Morrynlupine I was thinking the same thing. Like most dolls end up naked anyway when kids play with them. Why does their clothing matter, the unnecessarily drama I put my dolls threw (although when Monster High came I was 13 an no one played with dolls but I got a few an kept them but I don't have a lot of them anymore from moving so much. But my Littlest Pet Shops was like Desperate Housewives with all the drama I put those dolls threw.

[@moppupaws]

@@Morrynlupine having naked barbie dolls scattered everywhere is part of millennial and gen z childhood at this point lmao

[@SodaFlavour]

13:24 Whoa Whoaaaaa -Mexican here! Heres my opinion on Skelita. I got Skelitas a soon as i saw her , i was in high school . She is still very popular here in mexico cause shes perfect. I wouldnt use the word appropiation if the doll perfectly represents Dia de Los Muertos. We (i say we cause ive seen other fellow mexican from fan groups agree) are very happy she came out , and i havent seen any mexican actually upset with her , in fact its mostly USA citizens that are upset ??? in fact its a pity she ran out of stock here so fast. I havent been able to get the other versions of her . The necklace is made of cempasúchil a traditinal flower here, the skirt is papel picado / paper , the makeup as a sugar skull candy , its all incredibly well represented. And i can asure you mexican fans are delighted that our holiday is so well represented here. It feels like it was made with respect and good intentions. I wish people would stop with the " this cultural appropiation! ban this ! spread the word this is terrible! " each time mexico is well represented .. I cant speak for the other countries , but i can say this : Mexico fans are super happy with her ! / Debieron darnos una con el sombrero de la Catrina

[@StarlightPrism]

Skelita was designed by a Mexican American woman so I don't think it really falls under "appropriation".

[@eevee2Glacia]

Fellow Mexican here!! Completely agree with this!!

[@cerisemin]

In that section out of the 4 dolls pictured I’ve never heard anyone say culture appropriation, I cannot speak for the others but I know Isis dawn dancer in beloved by me and fellow Native Americans, although we wished they would’ve chose one tribe to focus on instead of a conglomeration of different Native American cultures. Happy to see that our cultures are represented and found nothing appropriative about it

[@imanijohnson1340]

I think it’s really cool how they made her out of bones! They were obviously put in a hard place with making sure she was shaped in a way that the clothes fit her, and they could’ve EASILY only gone halfway, but they didn’t :)

[@alexgade4512]

i honestly wish white people would stop getting triggered on behalf of POC. It's the Speedy Gonzales discourse all over again,

[@weigongzi3961]

Being a little girl in the late 2010s with an obsession with Monster High.. I vividly remember telling myself on multiple occasions that “when I am older I’m going to buy all the monster high dolls” and now.. older, there’s absolutely no dolls left I’m grieving on that lmao 💔

[@kyleeolsen2148]

Ever After High was so good, they had genuinely so sad that the books & shows stopped. They had actually great plot, Madeline Hatters story line was just starting to take off & then it just stopped. I’m so sad… Could you do a break down on that???

[@Naturegirlz14]

I was very excited for Ever After High since Disney always seems to have a monopoly on classic fairytales. At least Mattel's cash grab would've given us a refreshing take on these storylines rather than Descendants' many plotholes.

[@beauty-jc9xy]

Being a black girl, when I was younger, I didn’t see much representation. So, MH was honestly my favourite series/ film series/ doll line. I especially loved Clawdeen and Cleo because I felt like they were “black”. I really felt seen and I felt represented through their characters. I never really saw MH as un diverse but it’s nice to see it from someone else’s perspective.

[@obvioustroll3736]

Clawdeen and Cleo aren’t black. Clawdeen is clearly Latina, and Cleo is Egyptian/middle eastern.

[@beauty-jc9xy]

@@obvioustroll3736 Clawdeen isn’t Latina- they don’t really have a race. Apart from Cleo who’s clearly Egyptian. I’m talking about how I viewed them when I was younger. If she was to be a race however- I would say she’s black but that’s obvs just my opinion

[@obvioustroll3736]

@@beauty-jc9xy yeah, they’re monsters but I always thought clawdeen was Latina because I grew up in a very Hispanic populated area and everyone looked and sounded very similar to her with the hair and all. Me being Latina as well, seeing her brought awe to me since you pretty much never see Hispanic dolls or characters of anything. They’re either white, and maybe a token black character and it’s like nobody else exist.

[@beauty-jc9xy]

@@obvioustroll3736 I agree and I think that’s y I also resonated with clawdeen- she was the only character that looked like me

[@witchplease9695]

@@obvioustroll3736 Clawdeen is confirmed to be Black. Cleo is Arab.

[@jevilstail]

My mom is so cool because, although she didn’t agree with the dolls and their “scariness”, she still got them for me. To this day, her reasoning for letting me enjoy whatever media I like is, “I can’t stop you from liking it, and as long as it’s meant for your age, it’s okay” so big shoutout to my mom for giving me this kinda freedom

[@randomcontent853]

Your mom is dope

[@prixe12]

You're mom's a real mvp

[@sammyToesis]

really appreciate your mom putting her biases to the side to let you try something of your own volition. Sounds like it paid off in the end

[@Gibmeprimogemss]

@@lithiumkid Like for example, she doesn’t like them

[@starlesscitiess]

based also i love ur name

[@zadiannelovessnakes8899]

I'm currently 16, and I grew up with monster high dolls. Since I was quite young when the drastic changes happened, looking back I think I noticed the drop in quality. I got Monster Highs for birthday/christmas up until around 2017. I remember adding make-up and drawing on the more recent doll faces to make them look more detailed, and I even ended up making my own clothes for them. For an example, I loved the siren eye-heavy eyeliner look of the OG dolls and I'd try to make the newer models look like that. Since I was very young at the time, I know I failed extremely... But I still didn't fail as badly as Mattel!

[@nordicnerdy4032]

I'll never forget the Halloween I dressed up at Lagoona Blue, I was freezing beyond belief but I was so so so happy about wearing that costume. Makes me appreciate my mom more for letting me explore that unlike some of the parents mentioned in the video. I wasn't a HUGE Monster High fan but I adored Lagoona a lot, and have some dolls of her to this day. Actually looking back on it more I wouldn't be surprised if this was the gateway into the alternative way I dress now. Lastly, going back to Lagoona I still get the hydration station commercial song stuck in my head on really random occasions. Also, my mother named one of our cats Twyla. Overall as someone who doesn't consider themselves a super fan or a huge fan in general, the lie has permeated my life in the best way possible.

[@saskiasofia]

i played with monster highs all my childhood. never did i look at a doll and think “i wanna be that thin”, neither have i ever heard of someone who’s body image was affected by a LITERAL DOLL.

[@ginger7055]

Same! Like ffs i was 9 years old why would I care about their bodies- I just loved the clothing and the excitement of opening up a new doll

[@catgf7410]

yeah, while i think it's nice to feel represented - like have a doll look like you whether that's a skin color, body type disability, whatever- even as a kid i was able to separate it like. that's a doll, and this is me, a human person. we're not really meant to look alike

[@ginger7055]

@@catgf7410 Yes! Although i do find it disappointing that they white washed clawdeen and howleen- like changing the skintone for different versions of the doll and how howleen's hair went from a curly, short, afro texture to a wavy, long, thin texture. I do think it is cool that they represented 'racism' in one of their movies- that was cool to teach kids

[@purplecatonbroadway]

Same, they were MONSTERS too and it was clear they were stylized and more like caricatures of people. It never occurred to me to want to look like that

[@purplecatonbroadway]

@@ginger7055 I would let clawdeens hair go if they made it clear she just changed her hair a lot as some black women like to do, but the skin tone change was inexcusable

[@JaneDoeValentine]

Honestly, Valentine’s story is pretty realistic and wouldn’t be in a “negative light.” Closeted LGBT+ people tend to be very angry and hold a lot of animosity because of their internalized hatred. Having this redemption whilst coming out would have also sent a message to any angered closeted child that they don’t need to be hateful and it’s okay for them to be who they are. It would have been so touching

[@piss7610]

I do wish there were more closeted gay rep in media so people feel they aren't alone

[@dely5553]

i was like this until i realised. i wish they went through with that story

[@JaneDoeValentine]

@@piss7610 exactly, it would have connected with so many kids

[@Irene-sm7ih]

Yeah that was totally an excuse, a shame really

[@gokuxsephiroth4505]

I know. I'm going through this exact problem as a creator. I'm working on a webseries for someone else, and I wanted to make a character NB, but they told me that I couldn't do that because basically, if anything bad happened to them, or if they did anything bad, it would be "putting the community in a bad light" and "offending people", which just left me gobsmacked. Like... so you're telling me LGBTQ+ people only want flawless Mary Sues? 'Cause idk about that one chief, I feel like a character with no flaws is even more insulting. Enbies aren't so stupid that they would think one NB character doing something wrong means we think ALLLLL NB people do the exact same wrong thing! Btw, the character is a happy-go-lucky student whose story arc involves them slowly maturing over time. That's it. That's what's horribly offensive, apparently. Oh, and another excuse I got was that we "didn't know enough about Enbies to represent them" even though my only sibing and a good friend of mine are both NB. Goes without saying my NB relations thought the character was fine. If anything, they wanted MORE flaws to make them a bit more interesting. Just... Ugh. It's cowardly how much these people preach about uniqueness and celebrating differences but you know what? It's hard to be unique, it's hard to be different. You have to make a stand and risk failure when you do that. And if you think producing an LGBTQ+ cast is hard *imagine what it's like actually being alone and LGBTQ+!!* It could really connect with people and make a difference to have inclusive casts like that but nope. Too busy virtue signaling whilst shooting down actual attempts by the people working for them to practice what they preach. Cowards. Whoa, sorry for the rant, just... It hit a nerve when they told me such weaksauce excuses and it hurt again when I saw it here. X'D

[@erika-paigehutch3930]

Watching this again in the future knowing mattel embraced lgbt+ charectors and has so much more representation in g3 is such a nice feeling

[@ariescervantes3446]

I don’t understand who would’ve thought monster high was racist, they were by far the most inclusive line of dolls of their time, like I understand “stereotypes” but come on their frickin monsters based on local folklore, I’m Mexican and here in Mexico people lose their mind over her, she was flying off the shelves and on the secondary market is very hard to get her, you have to fight for her, all of MH fans wanted her

[@blackhighlights5497]

No, let me tell you WHY the honey swamp doll is actually so great!!! I’ve had that doll for years at this point, and her hair is amazing, it doesn’t tangle and mat like other dolls hair often does. The curls are extremely bouncy and not stiff, but they also managed to perfectly replicate type 4 hair which you don’t often see in dolls!!

[@LePezzy66]

Her swirls and spikes on her body are also reallyyy cool!

[@kreissthekeeper]

I also have her and her curls mostly look fresh outta box!! The back of her head is a little flat bcuz of lying her down so much but they're so gorgeous and defined still

[@BB-bw8tk]

honey swamp's hair is so perfect omg, mine is still perfect even being out of the box ahhh

[@aquabluerose7734]

I don't have a honey swamp doll but from all the pictures I've seen her hair does seem to always look good unlike most curly doll hair that easily tangles

[@errortryagainlater4240]

I don't know, the whole "dolls are giving girls body issues!" crisis feels like another version of "pokemon teaches kids to abuse animals!" It's very disconnected from the way children actually think. It also feels weirdly targeted because nobody ever says anything about He-Man, G.I Joe or Monster High's skinny male characters.

[@robynwilson9227]

I mean there was a literal study done on the doll thing though, and it DID find that skinny dolls sometimes generated negative self image where a full figured doll found positive self image. "Dolls cause body issues" is an oversimplification and dismisses that it is a small bit of evidence of a MUCH larger problem societally. Dolls dont CAUSE the issues, but they reinforce and ideology that already exists and is pushed onto young girls in everything they watch. Body diversity in dolls is something we should push for (especially better body diversity than Barbies frankly pathetic attempt. Shes just short and a little wide, thats not plus size) but i do agree that blaming dolls for how they bring out a symptom of a larger societal issue is narrow minded. :)

[@robynwilson9227]

Also there may be less emphasis on the male dolls because body standards for men work VERY differently. Male bodies dont get policed with as much ferocity as female ones. I cant tell you how many times ive seen, say a plus size man on tiktok making a joke or whatever and no comments mention his body at all vs how almost EVERY plus size woman gets body hate for literally minding her business. Male body standards revolve around strength and aren't super heavily enforced, but womens revolve around sex appeal (if fatphobia was about worry for fat womens "health" then why do men call female bodybuilders unattractive? /srs) and thinness and numbers and calories. Its not really a fair argument. Little boys know he man is fictional and wont be pressured to start weightlifting, but i and countless others had the "Come to Weight Watchers with Mommy" talk. This is NOT to say men cant struggle, but just that its MORE prevalent with women (almost twice the amount of women with EDs vs men, it is a societal thing).

[@BlackCroft666]

Unfortunatly it is not dead. it just moved to twitter and found more or less "new" targets (videogames, anime, manga...)

[@Karaline_]

I never look at a doll and felt insecure as a kid 😭

[@rainumphrey8725]

I mean as a kid I was taught that Barbies were fat and played with monster high dolls instead

[@minekiddd7624]

I actually got a reboot Draculaura as a kid and I legitimately thought up until last year that it was bought as a bootleg at dollar tree

[@sirilillestrandhjelseth8113]

On that information about Clawdeen thing with shaving does it also say: Favorite Activity: shopping and flirting with my boys! ...what,,, i dont remember seeing Clawdeen with boys, if anything the opposite-

[@nekoshey]

On the bone titties thing: this actually makes sense, because you want the doll to be able to easily fit in all other Monster High clothing. If you change the form of the doll too much, especially at the main holding points, the clothing is going to wear very awkwardly (if it even stays on at all). This is also generally why you only see one body type in doll lines, as most toy companies are reluctant to invest in a new product that not only requires a deviation in production, but also cannot utilize existing assets.

[@andreagarcia4236]

Not only that, but is also culturally correct too. Here in Mexico we have Catrinas figures. They are basically High class ladies' skeletons and they have very huge attributes, but, reaaally marked attributes, they have always been like that.

[@tristansmith1768]

and makes sense why the physical changes they DO make (like abi’s bigger hands) don’t mess w the clothes

[@xdani_thethinkingneko]

My thoughts exactly. Her feet are arched so she can share shoes,duh. This YT'ber must not collect dolls. Seemed more like a bash of MH.

[@xdani_thethinkingneko]

My thoughts exactly. Her feet are arched so she can share shoes,duh. This YT'ber must not collect dolls. Seemed more like a bash of MH.

[@shiannafoxx]

@@xdani_thethinkingneko Girl she just didn't know. It's not that serious.

[@shockofthenew]

I'm only 7 minutes into the video and the line "girls don't like green" from Mattel higher-ups is going to be echoing around my head for a while. An absolutely bizarre piece of corporate-gothic lore has been revealed... I'm glad the actual girls they tested with dispelled that idea!

[@daemonspudguy]

When I heard that I immediately thought "What the fuck does that even mean‽" because it's such a strange thing to say.

[@xXAcidBathXx]

I am girl adjacent and my favorite color is green what the hell?

[@Nocturnewashere]

Corporate people always have the strangest ideas about their target demographics.

[@smirnoffice8859]

Majority of higher ups in these companies are older men (mattels male ceo is 40-ish iirc?). They don't know shit about teenage girls lmao

[@kaemincha]

@@smirnoffice8859 but... girls can't like any color other than pinks and purples and pastels!!!!!!!! /s

[@tinytebs]

monster high released in that age where we were getting too old to openly play with our dolls (but still happily did) but definitely still too young to truly appreciate the fashion of the dolls and i think thats what captivated us so much

[@_ellipticalpxin_2543]

I feel like the bodies of the dolls aren't actually a problem, sure the dolls were super skinny but they weren't supposed to be perceived as human anyway, and their proportions were all odd too and not realistic. I feel like it's a design choice for the characters, not only that but if the bodies were all different then you wouldn't be able to mix and match the clothes on different dolls which personally, when I was younger I changed my dolls clothes all the time. kids aren't gonna even care or pay attention to the dolls bodies unless it's the main focus of their designs and ngl, imo the idea of a show and doll brand (that specifically caters to young girls) focusing on what the doll's bodies look like, sounds a little creepy

[@fayetopias]

the grip monster high had on me when i was younger is insane. i’m so glad they released new dolls and are having a comeback

[@adrianibarra8758]

One time this guy told me he shoves his monster high dolls up his 🕳

[@Maukiki]

it was one of my gay awakenings

[@fayetopias]

@@Maukiki when i found out clawdeen was a lesbian it brought me back back to my childhood when i use to make my clawdeen and draculaura dolls kiss

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

Sadly the same cannot be said about ever after high (╯︵╰,)

[@Maukiki]

@@fayetopias Damn id throw them aganist the wall even tho i loved them LMAO

[@creeper_gaming607]

Pretty sure the controversial monster high part about them looking “UGLY” “too skinny” and “mean and wrongly clothed” is quite selfish, when i played with these dolls, i never once thought about their body types like weight and booby sizes. I liked them due to their uniqueness, which means that the person who was complaining was only thinking about what they saw and not what their child thought

[@hannahsfannah0966]

I completely agree with you besides the fact I was 5-7 when I played with them I never even cares about that I just thought they were pretty

[@tlbaca120]

I absolutely agree! I was around 8-10 I believe when I had these dolls. I never once looked at their bodies and thought I wanted to be that skinny, nor did I ever think they were ugly. I always loved them because of how different they are! They were and are still are seen as beautiful to me, and if anything, they boosted my creativity! I feel that parents were reading way too into it. I could understand their concerns about body image, but when you're that young- the only time you worry about body image is when it is implanted by your parents. I believe that way, at least...

[@namjoonsbitch8943]

I’ll never not miss the original design of the dolls. I loved their twisted and creepy design of the bodies they paired perfectly with the cute yet edgy clothes, makeup and hair.

[@Aondeug]

Only just got into Monster High when I decided to watch a video about the G3 reboot and saw Draculaura and went "Oh. Oh I love her." I didn't like dolls very much as a child outside of some weirder ones like Guinevere and the Jewel Riders. And when the initial Monster High released I'd just graduated from high school. So I just kind of vaguely knew it was a thing. Looking at the G1 dolls now and also at Ever After High I do really like how they look. But like I've dealt with secondhand Lego set prices before so I was happy to learn that the doll I was excited about, G3 Draculaura, was just...a thing I could grab at the store. And I did and I just really love her. It's really neat getting to hear about stuff related to the generations of Monster High I didn't live through!

[@rabbitguts2518]

This is the exact situation I'm in right now, I just ordered g3 Draculaura yesterday because I saw her body shape and extra chest joint and cute face mold and swooned instantly. I've never cared about dolls growing up and only really had the faintest interest a few years ago when I realised I could customise old ones to hell and back. G3 Draculaura is the first time I've seen a doll and adored it purely as is and had to have one. It's nice to see fellow adults who have similar experiences with dolls. It felt like everyone I knew played with dolls growing up, which I didn't 'get; at the time, yet now very few adults like to have interestes that are 'childish' simply to conform to some made up standard (enjoying something you like isn't childish, pandering to some stupid made up rules about what makes someone an adult is childish)

[@beatlever89]

As a Mexican American I LOVED that they had a Day of the Dead based doll! Had her along with the Gargoyle and steampunk dolls, and still have the Ghoulfriends Forever book series. Monster High was fur-some!

[@inuiri8365]

Thank you. So many white people see Skelita and immediately say she's offensive without even listening to the Mexican community. It's so gross

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

@@inuiri8365 What?! Bruh I LOVE Skelita’s design! As someone from the UK, I’ve always loved the aesthetics and meaning behind the Day of the Dead, so to see a character who represented that aspect of the culture was always so cool to me. Even to this day she remains as one of my favourite MH designs.

[@moaisondaisland]

One time I went as Skelita for Halloween, it was so awesome tbh :D

[@imcupcakegurl26onmsp]

@@inuiri8365 I agree, I’ve only seen white people complain about her design, but me and my family and my other Latino friends absolutely adored her design and connection to culture, sure the day of the dead thing is generic but her outfit was creative and she had personality

[@clownstuf]

I wasn’t a big monster high fan when I was little but I loved seeing a Mexican doll like me, I think I dressed up as her for Halloween one year

[@kinseybickham7575]

It never fails to weird me out when adults think things like fantasy creatures = evil. This line is different and allows for so much creativity among children who play with the dolls. There’s nothing wrong with veterinarian Barbie, but how much MORE fun is it to play with a 6 armed spider girl who could be best friends with a unicorn and a vampire? I just don’t understand how that could be viewed as a bad thing. and their clothing is fun and fantastical and over the top, perfect for inspiring children who may be interested in fashion, design, or even visual arts. Grown adults feeling threatened by dolls are the real cringe here

[@eatplastic9133]

Long time ago in the middle ages the church prohibited any fantasy, visual art or imitation. And that continued for a long time and stuck to people to this day.

[@galaxymew5138]

Hoo yeah, that reminds that my very-religious-at-the-time mom wouldn't let me buy ANY of the monster high dolls because she saw them as ""demonic"" (I still snuck in episodes of the series tho, lol)

[@victoriatowns9237]

(It’s the Christianity)

[@yuki97kira]

I remmebered people talking about dnd... And fantasy video games.. Even if youre fighting literal demons in there

[@Twat_Dirt]

Only Christians think that way normal adults mainly complain about the clothes and how “skimpy” it looks

[@VeryLazyJack]

The Cringe Jacket is so amazing, like it is the clothing variant of 2006-2012

[@Melody-bg2wl]

The wave 2 core line was honestly my favourite - Frankie and Clawdeen's ponytails, Draculaura's lolita dress and Cleo's design in that line, perfection.

[@sophiatalksmusic3588]

Hot take- even though the accents in the web series were pretty bad, I kind of appreciate that they at least tried to give the main characters different accents when in most American media, most everyone sounds either British or American unless they're comic relief or a villain.

[@FrankensteinsMom]

I appreciate this opinion. I would also go as far to say that the accents never really bothered me growing up lol

[@pastelstarchild4833]

I agree bro, like their supposed to be characters from different cultures and not everyone can afford voice actors from literally ALL OVER THE WORLD!! What are the voice actors supposed to do? Not try their best and just make them all sound American? Smh

[@ericaisepic5695]

And most of the time, even the British accent isn’t well done ‘cRumPeTs aNd tEA’

[@nicholaslienandjaja1815]

Also, some people theorize that Ghoulia Yelps is autistic. So hats off to Monster High for NOT portraying a (possible) autistic as a comic relief or an idiot.

[@Bluerock121]

Wow shocker it’s almost like American media is predominantly for Americans….

[@ZombieXCorn]

I’m hoping monster high isn’t a flop in 2022. Plus I hope they touch on important topics and don’t just shy over them.

[@Windwalker88]

The important issues like how did Frankenstein's monster even reproduce

[@blacklungsanji3]

@@Windwalker88 Those are the important questions. You read my mind

[@chidivids2005]

@@Windwalker88 In one of the movies, Frankie tells the teacher she was made by her father the same way Frankenstein made him

[@captaincaspian42]

@@Windwalker88 she was built by using deceased human/monster parts then brought to life by her father!

[@KimchiYeo]

monster high has been dead for a long time now.

[@d.g.9209]

I was a HUGE Monster High fan. They will always have space in my heart ❤️

[@FuckYouho]

24:49 rainbow dash isn't feeling too good

[@pastelfurby2991]

I love my mother- she saw these and instead of being upset, was like “I thought you’d like this doll, I got you one” and now I still love them :)

[@spicypumpkin_]

My mom thought they were cool so she bought them for me as presents for holidays and birthdays. I was obsessed for a while.

[@deen7530]

I totally loved them, and so did all of my friends, but I was the only one who was allowed to have them. I grew up in a fairly Christian community so my friends parents all thought they were "demonic"

[@Aries_168]

My mom did the same

[@MisterSpleenlol]

my mom did this with anime from a public library and it was AMAZING

[@kit5081]

sameee, my mum was so obsessed with the shoes and im pretty sure she was more into them me lol but its just something we bonded over and im so happy that she only saw them as dolls and not some "evil and demonic" thing.

[@foxtail6600]

13:30 I love your content but as a mexican I can say that Skellita was the best representation of our culture that has ever been createt. Even the smallest details are so tought through and beautiful. I love her and I honestly belive that in this case the term "cultural appropiation" was just thrown at it by people who don't understand it. Edit: wrong time stamp 2.edit: it was the right one 💀

[@sischaotica]

Yeah, I think she was the coolest one I saw in the video. I was never really into Monster High when I was young, so I might start collecting. It sucks that they got discontinued because I totally would have been into them if I had been older when they were popular.

[@madamplatypus313]

“Cultural appropriation!” they cry, then wonder where all the diverse content has gone.

[@Templog.]

She was actually designed by Natalie Villegas, who is Mexican-american ans put a lot of herself into skelita

[@Juno.TheCat]

Yeah, I'm Brazilian which is very different than Mexican, but I remember when I was little I was obsessed with skellita and Abby's cousin whom I forgot the name, cuz they always felt closer to home

[@Lacmene8]

@@sischaotica well g3 is coming out and getting them second hand is pretty easy as long as you're careful about how much you should spend

[@TheOneAndOnlyVoid]

24:59 as someone once said “he looks like someone’s first mlp oc”

[@Ohmygodaprayingmantis]

“Girls don’t like green” okay so we’re just lying?? Ask any girl if she likes green and she’s gonna talk to you for 10 minutes about her favorite shade of green and why and what things are that green.

[@AlliePiccalo]

I wish they weren’t off the shelves. They were SO well designed in the day, all the accessories had so much attention to detail and the characters really made my childhood 🥺

[@Chachamaru15]

I didn’t know if you were aware, but the reproduction dolls are in select Walmarts right now (at least in the US), as well as Walmart and Mattel’s websites! Plus they’re planning on rebooting the dolls later this year I believe.

[@kennedyp7151]

Me too! I miss them and honestly wish they make a comeback!

[@friendly4465]

I was under the impression that Clawdeen Wolf wasn't the only POC character, I thought Cleo de Nile was also POC (She is from Cairo, Egypt) - she did not strike me as a white character.

[@katie2275]

They said only *black* character

[@iona6558]

I always saw Cleo as black but light-skinned since mummification is an ancient Egyptian practice and ancient Egyptians were black (before Arabs, Greeks, etc. came over and mixed).

[@nevoodles8210]

@@katie2275 but she still wasn’t even the only black character, honestly a lot of characters seemed black to me growing up even with the blue or green skin tones

[@nanodere]

@@nevoodles8210 For sure 🤞🏾characters like Toralei along with her goons, Bonita, and of course Honey Swamp (inarguably) def struck me as black characters

[@beatrizxa]

@@nanodere nefera is lightskin black

[@rooplespooples8254]

When monster high came out my sister mom and I were obsessed 😭😭 unfortunately the apartment we lived in had beg bugs and they got literally everywhere so we either got rid of them or my mom sold them cause we didn’t play with them anymore, I’m so happy they released the creeproduction line 😭😭

[@ssnekky]

I hope you do a video on G3! I actually am a fan of the redesign, but I do really miss the alternative fashion. It’s featuring more trendy clothes now and it makes me sad.

[@Zissy]

Monster high literally built my childhood I feel old now..in a good way.

[@voosgoose]

did not expect to see you here, but same for me

[@beetle8041]

Same

[@Maukiki]

same

[@blueberry_star22]

Bro me to sooooooo old😂😂😂😂

[@IsisWard1]

Lol I feel even older. I was already in Late middle school/ Highschool by the time they came out

[@graciegalahad9258]

My mother (who is a pastor, and in most cases, was very anti-bratz and "sexy" dolls) fell in love with monster high when I did because of the emphasis on being unique and yourself! I wonder why she's surprised I got into alt fashion... yeah, i don't know either mom

[@chilichinashop]

That’s really cool! I’m glad monster high’s very pastel and gothic fashion is reaching even the most un-intended audiences 😄

[@KaminoKatie]

Your mother is pretty based

[@nyxie2877]

46:22 Someone done left their baby as an offering to Eros 😭

[@Lizzab3th...]

32:26 can we talk about the anime-esque animation style? idk i think it actually looks kinda cool

[@PatientStriderArt]

I genuinely want to see Valentine again, with his boyfriend. When I learned Valentine was gay it showed younger me that I wasn't weird or broken for being LGBTQ+, I would have loved to see it in the show or a movie. I really want a LGBTQ+ character to be canon.

[@ryebreadthebread]

Same!!!

[@wispy-ispy]

I love Valentine so much as a character so I strongly second this

[@PatientStriderArt]

@@fur8104 lol, it was referring to monster high. But either way I won't debate pronouns with someone I don't know

[@neb.9489]

@@PatientStriderArt The funny thing is that “it” is actually a pronoun 😂

[@PatientStriderArt]

@@neb.9489 yea, a lot of my friends use it/its/itself. I'm just not gonna to fight abt the validity about them on a video that has nothing to do with it, yknow? Seems pointless

[@elizacarrie7433]

Potentially unpopular opinion: Ever After High was a much better version of Descendants. They did the archetype much better than Disney, and their story was better. Their plots were more interesting, more accepting (discussing anxiety, trauma, gaslighting and lgbtq representation), and better written. Their production was also better. When Descendants came out, I was in a fractured fairytale book phase and thought that Ever After definitely did it better Also you asked about why Cupid transferred, I'm sorry I don't know about that specifically. But I can tell you that just before the Monster High redesign (and simplification you mentioned) the Monster High canon and the Ever After High canon were gearing up for a crossover movie. There's easter eggs in the mermaid feature movie in Monster High, and allusions were made in the Dragon Games movie and other references by Wonderland characters in preparation for a hopeful crossover. Around Dragon Game's release however it was clear that Mattel decided to wind down Ever After High, and when Monster High went through it's sanitized redesign most of the Ever After High community came to the consensus that Mattel had decided to redirect their efforts to making Monster High work. Mattel denies this and refuses to close the door on Ever After High, but they haven't had additions to their property for some time

[@jazmincopes6944]

Definitely not an unpopular opinion.

[@eochiiii]

Totally not an unpopular opinion bc I ain't gaf about Descendants when it first came out lmaoo. Like it was cool and I liked the movies or what not. But EAH literally was my show fr, I loved it just as much as MH and it had the potential to be really popular. Growing up I met so many people who liked the show so it sucks that Disney was playing the lawsuit game and they had to cancel it. EAH executed it better and all the people saying it was a weird copy cat of descendants is lying idc idc 😭

[@beauty-jc9xy]

I agree!! EAH is wayyyy better than Descendants

[@laurnl]

EAH did so many things better than descendants did

[@teazen_tea]

YES YES YES YES YES YES EHA IS GREAT!!!!

[@kris_0520]

As a straight dude with no real interest in dolls and whatnot, I have many fond memories of vibing with my older sister as we played with the dolls back during MH's early years, making me fairly biased towards the earlier designs, since neither of us really liked the later designs.

[@YuriPlisetskyKinnie]

As someone who had a suitcase full of MH dolls as a child, they did not cause my body image issues, my classmates did

[@jellyjilli1004]

As a former little girl who loved how they look I can assure you that none of us were thinking any weird "imma be sensual and attractive blabla" as the story of the world goes little girls will ALWAYS look up to alternative fashion. Cuz it's cool and different. Now, why are these adults looking at a literal doll in a sexual way? Lots of projection around here.

[@jacquelinelugo5518]

Yep they did the same thing to us when I was younger with Bratz. Mind you we only ever saw Bratz as fashion play dolls but then you had those weird adults. Who mind you were never the target demographic. Look at a doll in a weird way. Also if you notice, any dolls that have any sort of ethic background or look to them get sexualized. Because when when a Caucasian little girl does it, it is cute. A little girl that is POC does it, it is sexual. And that's just weird 😒

[@bananas2897]

I'll always remember how every Tuesday night as a kid my mum and i would sit down with our lil collection of MH dolls, brush their hair, fix their clothes and talking excitingly about them. We would spend hours hunting them down on ebay and would count down the days together before they came, she truly loved sharing her passion of dolls with me and to this day we still talk about how cool we thought MH was. One of my favourite memories with her.

[@marianaghatag]

This is soooo cute 🥹🥹🥹

[@diane5893]

You have an amazing mom

[@pastelguts6182]

When I was a kid I took this camera that my parents had for trips and I'd make 'stop motions' of my MH dolls. I didn't know how to do anything other than taking pictures tho so whenever I showed my mom I'd just bring her the camera and flip as fast through the gallery as I could.

[@ariszjimenez8426]

Always love your mom

[@rionka]

this is so beautiful, thank you for sharing

[@Andy-ne5qi]

When i was a teenager i got into the books and never realized there were dolls and movies and stuff, until my best friend showed me her collection. Now im 27 and have been collecting the collectors dolls and im so in love. I wish i had discovered them at their peak but i wouldnt have been able to buy them either way because i was super poor growing up so im not too mad

[@jennasayers6987]

NOT ME WATCHING THIS A DAY AFTER MATPAT MADE A VIDEO SAYING HES WUITTING KZbin AND YOU DROP THE GAME THEORY LINE. BRB CRYING

[@renm4779]

My mom wouldn’t let me play with Bratz dolls but she openly supported Monster High and poured a lot of her single mother money into buying the dolls for me during holidays. I think she liked the MH message more and understood what the dolls were really about.

[@cameronmcewen9666]

So sad that the rebooted series is butchering those messages.

[@eaovark5353]

@@cameronmcewen9666 how's it butchering the message?

[@cameronmcewen9666]

@@eaovark5353 I’d tell you to watch to find out for yourself, but then your eyes would bleed.

[@eaovark5353]

@@cameronmcewen9666 ?? are you talking about the second wave? thought u meant the third wave was going against the message, which was released after the video was published. what r u being rude for

[@cameronmcewen9666]

@@eaovark5353 The third wave IS against the message.

[@JinxedShapeshifter]

I don't know why but "we took Disney for granted" is the funniest phrase to ever come out of the brainhole of a company CEO

[@davidhong1934]

"We took Disney for granted" should be the motto for every Disney remake

[@tornadodee148]

Because taking Disney for granted in any shape or form is astronomically dumb, ESPECIALLY for a CEO who should KNOW how HUMUNGUS Disney is. Like, Who TF was the head of Mattel at the time??? He just seems to make bad decision on top of bad decision on top of bad decision. And not only with the Disney thing. seriously.

[@Shtickyaight]

Frrr

[@alexisasheep6554]

I'd already grown out of this stuff unfortunately at the time when they were popular and now I'm obsessed with doll remakes and these dolls are so commonly used too. I do love the designs tho. Also kinda off topic but not really, I had a pink skeleton as an imaginary friend as a small kid. Idk where I got it from but she was the best, never felt so comforted by something so incorporeal.

[@nerdyespurr]

I recently got my first ever Monster High doll from the reboot and I legit felt like a kid again, despite never owning the dolls.

[@revi__]

Seeing those parent reviews made me realise the parents are the real bad influence on their kids, it was actually painfully disgusting to read

[@beautyandtheoffbeats]

I fucking lost it at the first review like damn lady just buy her the doll. So much projecting on her end.

[@catgf7410]

yes exactly like. who sees a children's toy and thinks these things

[@leif739]

I was obsessed with Venus McFlytrap but my parents never got me her. So, as an Adult to heal my inner child I bought myself one. Probably one of my favorite things I own now.

[@toxicinfinity6504]

I shaved half my head remembering her, she was a punk idol and literally a vegan queen. Venus is gorgeous

[@tlbaca120]

I just got myself a Frankie Stein doll! It's good to treat your inner child sometimes. It helps them heal.

[@sarah5080]

I got myself a basic Clawdeen doll for the same reason.

[@beauty-jc9xy]

She was my first MH doll

[@beauty-jc9xy]

@@sarah5080 I think imma get myself a Clawdeen- I never got her and she was literally my fav character

[@carovillar8228]

I loved Spectra as a kid, it was my forever favourite and the first doll i had. The smokey make up, the pale skin, chains and ethereal dresses. As a teen I became an Evanescence fan, still am. I think that ghost doll made something in my baby bat self

[@sunrisedarmi7602]

LOL, meanwhile my mom was just like "wow look at these dolls, cool" and proceeded to let me and my sis play with them.

[@nyom6378]

As a Mexican, I was buzzing when I was a child and Mattel released Skelita. I adored that her skirt was made of papel picado, and I loved her curls too, how they somewhat resembled cempasuchil, that orange flower you see in dia de los muertos. I was so happy because in the end, she's Mexican, and she was wearing it loud and proud. My child mind was like "she's Mexican just like me!" And I still go by that nobody touch Skelita stay away she's perfect Lmao

[@tablescissors67]

It does look cool, it's a pity some adults over-think or attempt to justify their existence (often ones WITHOUT kids btw) by simply trying to take fun things away from kids. Yet, lately, ironically, there is also this creepy trend by the same type of people to put all kinds of inappropriate and adult ideas into cartoony images.

[@kukki.kosplays6324]

THANK YOU!!! Izzy is white and complaining about appropriation, while many people of these cultures who these dolls represent love them!

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

honestly i get what izzy was saying ab appropriation, especially in regards to dolls like isi dawndancer but skelita was p well received by mexicans so that threw me off lol

[@cadetcassette6164]

LITERALLYY im also mexican and have only known about Skelita for an hour now but if anyone tried to take her away from me I would explode then again I'm just a sucker for dia de los muertos themed characters lol

[@finnheathmhme4695]

Giving the fact that the designer behind Skelita IS Mexican…

[@erenender66]

oh hey Izzy! you mentioned how Ever After High was basically a carbon copy of monster high's concept, but there were actual lore reason for that. EAH and Monster High were sister series which were intended to crossover, meaning EAH was more of an extension of monster high than a copy. EAH just got canceled and MH got rebooted before they got to that point, and it's the reason why most EAH fans were originally MH fans Cupid transferring was basically to confirm that the two series were connected, and she went to ever after because they needed a character for the valentines special. they actually tease the crossover at the end of Boo york, but because both stories were scrapped, it never went anywhere. EAH was the next page in MH's story, but fans have sadly been left to speculate all the actual lore. I also want to mention that while Ever After and Descendants were similar in concept, concept is where the similarities end. The story elements were completely different, and most people who've seen both series agree that Ever After was a lot better, and had a lot more effort put into the story and design. Which is why EAH and MH fans hate Disney with a passion, cause it effectively killed both series

[@kai_shinx]

I would mention in 13 wishes Giles Grimm to help Gigi to create wisp

[@erenender66]

@@kai_shinx oh that's right, i completely forgot about that! Thanks for reminding me

[@JustADreamerLuv]

they were originally supposed to have an official crossover movie before both got canceled i remember my 12-year-old self was so upset when i found that out lol

[@asumix3107]

Hey!Speaking here from the future,when the reboot launched and as new as two days ago and i would love to see your take one year later with the whole reboot

[@silentasarose3173]

26:07 Sobbing rn bc for the longest time I had forgotten about this ver of Clawdeen and seeing it brought back the memories of when 9yr old me was so obsessed with her that I straight got my hair done in the same colours as the doll’s hair 😂😅😭

[@Justinya0]

Nobody ever talks about this, but I love that when there's a 3D monster high movie and new characters are introduced in the movie, they actually appear in the webisodes that came out after the movie! If MH was like every other franchise, new characters would be forgotten and never even spoken about anymore after the movies. But MH is different. Introducing a new character in a movie-the character goes to the school in the webisodes. Also, about Cupid's transfer to EAH: This was supposed to be some kind of hint that the Monster High and Ever After High universes are somehow connected and there was supposed to be a crossover with EAH movie, but it never happened. At least we got the book tho...

[@otc16]

Wait what about that last scene from the movie boo york boo york ? they see astranova talking from the mh to her friends that are from eah

[@Justinya0]

@@otc16 That was also a hint foreshadowing the crossover movie

[@presley_presley]

This might have 100% been a weird fever dream but I swear I remember watching some sort of crossover between mh and eah. I don’t remember much of the actual details but there was a group of characters walking in some underground sewer type thing? And I’m pretty sure one dudes name was Norman and he kept being made fun of for the name. At the end of the tunnel I remember there being some sort of party and possibly a rivalry between the two schools? Now that I actually typed it out I’m pretty sure I’m confusing this with something else but whatever if you know what I’m thinking of please lmk

[@Justinya0]

@@presley_presley Have you read the crossover book tho? Maybe you just visualized what happened in the book and thought it was a movie or something. I might be completely wrong, so if anyone knows anything about something similar, please respond! I'm so curious!

[@callumjones5666]

@@presley_presley I did find a character called Norman collossal hes the son of the collosal man from the movie of the same name but idk if thats the same norman you are fererring to..

[@ryry5094]

I’m Hispanic, so seeing any sort of representation for Hispanic culture from characters like Skelita Calaveras, Marisol Coxi, and Batsy Claro was so amazing to me. And that’s not even the end of it! Honey Swamp and her Afro-textured hair and the Native-American aspects of Isi Dawndancer reinforced how inclusive Monster High really was. I could go on and on about representation and how well made the characters and their respective dolls were. I’m so disappointed to see what the reboot has done to Monster High and its reputation as a popular doll brand.

[@lisahoughton3262]

The reboot wanted to make a diverse show more diverse than what it was originally was and they ruined it

[@pastelstarchild4833]

I agree, if I could give advice to anyone who wants to make diverse characters and shows, look towards MH as an example. They did different race and nationally representation perfectly imho

[@MaskedReviews]

The comment about them looking stereotypical is weird too. All of the dolls are based off myths and could be said to have a stereotypical look

[@orchidposa]

@@MaskedReviews i feel like izzy assumed that marginalized groups that the dolls are based upon scorned the existence of said dolls for misrepresenting their culture. while some may feel this way and that is perfectly valid, others may see this as great representation. it all comes down to how a person feels.

[@Zaansemayo]

Who’s here after the new reboot gen3 announcement???

[@mothwench]

going back and forth between the bests and worsts is so funny