How Could They CANCEL This? | Ever After High Deep Dive Part 1

[@NegativeLegend]

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[@mewmewpowergirl1625]

Could you review each season of Winx club enchantix

[@mewmewpowergirl1625]

I think you need to review each season individual of your old videos instead short compilation Winx s1 s2 how about mlp s1 s2 wow if I had your skill I would have 2 houses but you are lazy and unmotivated the answers on your channel review ever after high season 1 season 2 review winx club season 1 season 2 review mlp season 1 season 2

[@mewmewpowergirl1625]

If you want to get your girlfriend a house what happened to Teen titans what happened to Dexter's laboratory what happened to Ben 10 what happened Pokemon what happened to Gravity Falls you said you wanted a house prove it

[@mewmewpowergirl1625]

Lost revenue who lives in a pineapple under the sea each season oh Monkey D Luffy

[@mewmewpowergirl1625]

Have you considered second channel what happened to video game franchises ForgottenLegend

[@maybe8985]

The designs were EVERYTHING. We lost so much things.

[@triplepinata27]

Agreed the character design was ON POINT

[@QueenCloveroftheice]

This series was my gateway into Japanese fashion

[@pinkfor3v3r]

they were gorgeous! miss them so much

[@MxSae]

Fr! I was obsessed with the dolls I had, they were probably my favorite

[@youreverafterqueen]

They were everything! I absolutely missed this series so much so I decided to make some new characters in my channel, they may never beat the way they designed it but it’s the least I can do to make this fandom not die.

[@Pish004]

this is 100% better than descendants and im so SAD they cancelled it, it has better animation and story telling than most animated shows nowadays

[@Nicole-el3sg]

Descendants suck it was only good on the first movie

[@faenene]

@@Nicole-el3sg I hate to say it but I kind of agree...

[@mxlsiia]

the plot in ever after high was so much better

[@Poetcassandra1987]

FACTTTTS

[@Loopsy927]

@@Nicole-el3sgyeah I agree with you on that

[@alicethevampire]

I hope Mattel decides to do something with Ever After High when fairytale adaptations become popular again, and it's just as good.

[@Marzbar90]

I hope there’s a reboot off the show it was quite successful and had a great story line too it

[@inacatt]

There's hope since Monster High got rebooted! I got interested in EAH only a bit ago and I only have a very flawed Raven Queen and would love to get a new doll of her without paying a scalper.

[@Marzbar90]

@@inacatt I use to have an apple doll but I gave it to someone, the dolls where taken off shelves which is so sad as they were so cool and only. £10 to £15 which was a bargain for dolls in2017 or 2018

[@gaf407]

They just snagged the Disney Princess license back from Hasbro… no way they are bringing back EAH and risk having it taken away again…

[@finland4ever55]

If they do what they did to mh I don't want it

[@strefa5195]

glad to see this fandom alive in 2023

[@jilp2002]

Tf you talking about? No it aint

[@PaintSplashProductions]

I've never stopped loving this show and rewarding the specials on Netflix

[@mikudayoisback6423]

@@jilp2002 you’re just jealous 💀

[@jilp2002]

@@mikudayoisback6423 of what, a dead franchise?

[@mikudayoisback6423]

@@jilp2002 no, that you’re not famous 🤪

[@kateomahoney]

Why is a show made entirely to sell toys actually sooooo good?

[@АртемПрохоров-Лукин]

Because if it was bad, then toys wouldn't sell.))

[@albedo-sama9778]

Rise of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was an amazing adaptation which was made to sell the TMNT toys only for them to cancel it. Why do all the good shows get cancelled or abruptly stopped😭😭😭

[@oranplan1630]

Reminds me of The LEGO Movie... someone somewhere was told "make us a TV series to go with our dolls" and they said "bet"

[@albedo-sama9778]

@@oranplan1630 Oh yea there's another ongoing Lego show called Lego Monkie Kid. For a show made just to sell the Monkie Kid toys GODDAMN DOES THE SHOW GO HARD AF, it's also made by Flying Bark, the same studio who animated Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. GODDAMN THE 2D ANIMATION IS SO FRIGGIN AWESOME😆

[@disgustof-riley]

MLP

[@Tiredarsonist]

You gotta love it when apple says raven is selfish for not signing the book but nobody reminds her that almost all of her friends die later on in their stories so technically raven just saved herself and if not hundreds of other students from her decision

[@oc4025]

Okay but what could raven possibly do to save everyone else?

[@almondex7831]

She is saving them by alowing them to choose their own stories rather than walking to their garranteed tragidies

[@meenameena633]

True

[@madisonyomans9004]

Yeah, not all the royal stories end with a happily ever after. Apple talks a lot about her destiny, but does it actually undermine others? Even Briar put her in her place that one time, saying "You sleep for like a week, I have to sleep for 100 years." These stories are based on the Brothers Grimm version of fairy tales. So yeah, some of these kids probably have tragedies and then happily ever after..

[@leadingstrangeness]

In the books, Ashlyn is already preparing for her role by serving her cousins, who are destined to be the step family that makes her miserable. She also has to deal with the knowledge that, in order for her story to work, her own mother will be dying in the next few years.

[@perrilewis180]

Duchess Swan is the next Odette in Swan lake. In the most common versions of Swan Lake, Odette and Siegfried drown themselves. And you know Odile stealing her face.

[@elenafriese891]

Drown themselves *after* Odette gets cheated on, even!

[@jayk6447]

Because she has these mean tendencies i always assumed her to be Odile not Odette. But actually this way makes a lot more sense.

[@Hanhan.i.guess.]

Iirc, in the world of EAH, Duchess is angry at the world because her mother, Odette, is stuck in her swan form forever. Being stuck as a swan is Duchess’s predetermined ending. So, it’s not death, but it ain’t fun either.

[@ghosty_toasty29]

Bro why am I finding this out YEARS later! My 7 year old self didn’t know what Swan Lake was so I thought she was the daughter of the Ugly Duckling since she doesn’t get a Happily Ever After. I feel so dumb 😭😭😭

[@3daniku]

​@@Hanhan.i.guess.i never knew this!

[@juliannasgame6790]

Daring not telling the guys about Lizze and his date is STILL iconic and lives rent free constantly in my mind.

[@anez1266]

Me too!😭 I don't care who he ended up with (I know her name I just won't say it). Daring Charming👑 and Lizzie Hearts❤ will be my Forever After Ship till the day I die!😤

[@Editz-g9o]

And he cheated on apple 😃 he didn't end up with her anyways

[@SeaAngel24676]

@Tsuyu Asui Apple I think

[@afoolishfopdoodle3284]

Daring Charming drinks his respect women juice

[@anez1266]

Please everyone stay calmed, let's clear all misunderstanding. 1st. In the episode of Apple White, Apple herself said to Blondie that *"she and Daring are still not a couple, that they have a forever after to be together"* This meant that they were going to end up together because it's written in their stories, so it didn't matter that they were hanging out or going on dates with other people, cause at the end of the day, Apple and Daring would end up as a couple and get married. So I guess in a way Daring wasn't cheating on her, he was merely enjoying his youth until he would become Apple's one and only Prince. Second. In the EAH Dragon Games special, Apple was poisen (shocker🙄) and naturally it was Daring's moment to save her, but his kiss didn't work, the one who saved Apple was Darling Charming (aka Daring sister) but she use CPR so it wasn't a real kiss (well discuss that later) anyways with that it was reveal that Daring was not meant to be Apple's Prince. And 3rd. In the EAH Winter special, Daring was having a breakdown wondering what would become of him since his story/destiny changed. So blah, blah, blah, he was turned into a beast, Apple didn't like his appearance, blah, blah, blah Rosabelle didn't care and fell in love with him (shocker🙄), blah, blah, blah, the spell was broken and they became a couple the end😑. Again I don't care that they ended up together or even IF the EAH series ever makes a come back. I will be a Daring👑 x Lizzie❤️ shipper till the end

[@elenafriese891]

Ok, y'all. I found this show through the *books,* and didn't process that it was a doll line for AGES. Would recommend them! They're nicely written, Maddie will literally talk to the narration sometimes (which is *much* more jarring on text) and there's a book where she has to take over their job. Also in those books the Evil Queen is imprisoned because she basically tried to break the banks of her fate and directly conquer everyone else's, and *that got added to Raven's fate* (which she brings up a lot less than you'd think). They kinda bring attention to the fact that what her mom did isn't _entirely_ dissimilar from the rebellion against fate Raven is trying to pull off.

[@griffinwings2385]

I love the books! They are one of my favorite series, and I really appreciate the fun, yet really interesting characterizations that everyone got, as well as the depth of world-building (especially the parts surrounding Raven and her mom!). Maddie is absolutely one of my favorites in this series.

[@fashioni.star.]

Oh I loved the books!! Used to spend my library assistant period just reading them!

[@Lei-mm2iv]

Same for me, I read and reread the books at my academy all the time, and when i got older I saw the cartoons but even then I only knew about the Bratz dolls

[@Foxff0x]

Heck yeah, I adore the books! I’m a proud owner of almost all of them and I still really love them, the amount of world building and expanding on the characters is amazing!

[@elenafriese891]

(also the fact that the Two Sisters were treated as so obscure that people thought they had stopped existing as well as having a much less murdery version of their story than the folk song* threw me for a bit of a loop when Swan Lake was still a thing in the setting with no indication that it had changed) Like, I'm really happy those two got represented, but it also left me trying to figure out who these fairy tales were being *told* to. Presumably the audience the toy line was initially built for? *which is fair since that is legitimately a less popular and thus more flexible story that you can add tropes from other stories about one sister trying to kill the other and getting punished. Edit: Also who in the flying heck palace was the bog king in book one??? I think of myself as decently familiar with folklore, so his shape is decently familiar, but recognizing his actual name is an entirely different thing.

[@challengingarmadillo8472]

I always interpreted Duchess’s motivation to be that she wants her story to get a happy ever after. These kids won’t live out the exact stories their parents did, we see that clearly in some of their genders, their dynamics, and especially when we get a peek into Apple and Raven’s destinies. I think they’re meant to live out the retelling of the story, just like how in modern day we have many interpretations of these classic fairy tales (anything Disney ever made, etc). Sometimes characters get happy endings, sometimes they don’t. I think in Ever After High there’s only a select number of characters that can get these happily ever afters, which is where the ranking comes in. If someone falls down the ranks, they lose their claim to a happy ending of their tale. Duchess’s original story doesn’t have a happy ending, and where she falls in the Royal rankings means she won’t get a happy ending unless someone is knocked down. However, we know that there are retellings of her story that give her a happy ending. TLDR: They’re living out the retellings of classic fairy tales where some retellings get happy endings and some don’t depending on their ranking in this world.

[@badulgumm5458]

THAT'S EVEN MORE MESSED UP

[@cova_exists]

So you get a good life or a bad one depending on your rank?.... 💀💀💀

[@kellyntaylor8184]

“LISTEN UP, BUTTERFINGERS!!” I’m using that line!!

[@cova_exists]

same energy as "LISTEN UP TWINKLETOES!!" That's all I could think of while reading your comment

[@kellyntaylor8184]

@@cova_exists Lmao

[@luckybug479]

My mom didn’t want me to get into monster high as she thought it was scary but she allowed ever after high and I love it so much

[@royaleempress1382]

OMG me too! she refused to buy me monster high dolls but she loved EAH and so did I lol, and still do..

[@choko_mlk]

Same !! I'm so glad my mom let me watch ever after high as an alternative to monster high lol

[@childeofepickness]

my mom didn’t let me watch or by dolls of monster high because she thought the clothes were immodest 💀💀💀

[@cantdecideausername8584]

My mum thought they were demonic lmao, I collect them now however

[@eleonorepb4565]

People being uspet against Monster High because of it's a tribute to the monsters of many cultures is really weird to me

[@camie2075]

I read the book series before I found the show and they go into more depth with the characters motivations in there. I remember especially liking Duchess Swan's book and how it explained why she acts the way she does and the fact that she's basically trying not to die because that's how her fairy tale ends in the Ever After High version of her story. (At least that's what I remember)

[@snatchingcareers4681]

I just searched the story of the Swan Queen and there’s not hint that she dies. If anything she marries a prince and lives happily ever after. What story is Ever After High following?

[@camie2075]

@@snatchingcareers4681I'm not sure but I do remember she's supposed to die in the Ever After High version ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ I think there's a version where she does die but idk where to find it

[@cheyannegiles9772]

@@snatchingcareers4681 she turns into a swan forever, what are you talking about?

[@Rose_2968]

​@snatchingcareers4681 the original story of swan lake has her drown herself I believe, there's also a version where she stays as a swan forever.

[@Veynila]

@@snatchingcareers4681 In the most common versions of Swan Lake, Odette(duchess mother) and Siegfried drown themselves but In the EAH version I think they follow another common version where odette stays a swan forever, actually now that i remember i think duchess mom(odette) is canonically stuck in swan form permanently(source is the official ever after high wiki, duchess swan's profile) in EAH therefore being stuck as a swan forever is duchess predetermined ending, so not death but still horrible

[@Naduron0]

I will NEVER understand why the Mattel canceled Ever After High and Monster High are the most famous shows ever made instead they created Enchantimals that nobody loves... -.-

[@yellow125]

Money. They kept at it for far longer than most other companies would have, but they couldn't keep making it at a loss.

[@frillycreation8922]

@@yellow125 And trying to get back into Disney's good graces because Disney ended things with them over Ever After High's production and Mattel not giving as much focus to producing Disney's toys.

[@Naduron0]

WHAT?! i have 500 LIKES!? i have never got over 1like for 9- 19years on youtube until now xD

[@QueenCloveroftheice]

Because of Disney’s Descendants

[@malevolentsnow9867]

I believe it was too expensive to animate or something? I’m sure that wasn’t the SOLE reason, but I know that contributed heavily to why Everafter was cancelled. Detailed outfits are often more time consuming which equals more hours of labour.

[@elloluv6295]

I was CONVINCED as a kid that Giles was so traumatised by the cave or the spell was put on him he was forced to speak in riddles, therefore scaring Milton into believing that only bad things happen when you "go off book." Idk why but even 9 year old me thought the Milton Grimm storyline was weird so I made up my own

[@sarahthomas8670]

😭😭😭💡💡

[@crazypegasie9748]

WAIT that WASNT what happened /hj

[@Clawdeena9]

Mattel needs to watch this video and just bring EAH back CORRECTLYYYY

[@libitouwen926]

Finally someone who understands my weird obsessions with wonderland and fairytales. I love Ever After High, especially Wonderland.

[@plushdragonteddy]

i really hope this show comes back, bc the clothes were FIRE. as someone who only ever watched it once with a friend as a joke, i immediately noticed goldilocks’ kid in the background wearing legit elegant gothic lolita fashion, and like??? hell yea???? this show deserved to live longer based SOLELY on how rad the outfits were

[@chadb9314]

Can we just talk about how amazing the ever after high theme tune is?? Because jesus it is just the BEST!!

[@cheribitch5396]

I’m mad when they changed it a little after the EAH dragon games film came out :0 such a downgrade

[@cova_exists]

The dopamine levels I get whenever I hear the intro 💀💀 The energy and happiness mixed with nostalgia and a drop of anger. What a wonderful feeling.

[@cova_exists]

@@cheribitch5396 I think both are good but the first one is such a banger

[@sarahthomas8670]

FACTS

[@LocalTorchwoodIntern]

Cerise Hood is why Im gay now lol, also it was a CRIME we didnt get the sleepover/pjs as a doll line for EAH like Dead Tired.

[@kateomahoney]

There was Getting Fairest???

[@jazminechevarria7182]

​@@kateomahoneyyeah, but we only got raven, apple, madeline and briar. even tho the show already show more

[@crowe3630]

I'm so sad they didn't give her doll wolf ears!!!!! That's the whole reason I loved her

[@kerrygligorovic9758]

I do loved Ever After High Series but I am disappointed that ever after high series was cancelled because there's so much things that need to be resolved before the series will finally end like revealing Cerise Hood's family secret, Who's Apple's destiny Prince, how Darling became the white knight, the Ever After High graduation day and show what they doing in the future now, but unfortunately this is not going to happen so the writers decided to end with the cliff hanger.

[@tonkshathtop4183]

If I remember correctly there is an episode where Apple falls under a sleeping curse and the only one of the Charming siblings who is able wake her up is Darling. So Apples story will be a queer one.

[@Dani_1012]

​@@tonkshathtop4183 That would have been such an awesome twist 😮‍💨 this cliffhanger still hurts

[@ghastlygavin]

Pretty sure Apple's 'prince' is actually Darling

[@reneefair7729]

Mattel no longer has anyone to finish writing or animating Ever After since they fired the Creator

[@HiYayWoo]

"For someone like me who had a... un uh healthy obsession with fairytales, and also a lot of unresolved anger issues" ME TOO BRO ME TOO

[@trevenantlord988]

I really liked the books, there's only four of them but they are all amazing. One of them is also a cross over between EAH and Monster High that goes hard

[@chloewingate]

Actually there are quite a lot more than 4. There’s a whole series about side characters for example one I read called, ‘A semi-charming kind of life.’ And then there were a bunch of digital only books.

[@elenafriese891]

@@chloewingate where do I find them?

[@violetartist2400]

​@Elena Friese most are sold at Barnes & noble, you can also try 2nd hand bookstores since I'm sure most decided to get rid of theirs once they got "too old". Or just look it up online (unless you don't wanna pay for shipping). I'm currently looking for the EAH/MH crossover book in person since I don't want to pay for shipping

[@elenafriese891]

@@violetartist2400 do they have a website I could look for that says what the collection actually is?

[@loonazawarudo_loveChuu]

I think i have that crossover book and its the only eah book i own

[@The_Maroon_Rose]

Oh my goodness, either they knew ENTIRELY what they were doing when they said "listen up Butterfingers" or that was a complete coincidence but that was EPIC.

[@inacatt]

Hey friend, Negative is nonbinary and uses they/them pronouns, not he/him. /nm

[@The_Maroon_Rose]

@@inacatt that was my bad 😅

[@The_Maroon_Rose]

@@inacatt problem fixed.

[@v.v365]

In my head, the way Ever After High’s destiny system works is that there are a few key roles that must be fulfilled for the story to play out as intended. The rest of the cast can be unimportant background people. The specifics of the original fairytale don’t matter as much, and things are a lot more chill than the original tales because this is a series meant for children and some older fairytales have some disturbing elements in them. For example, let’s look at the Snow White fairytale. Apple White is the Snow White, Raven Queen is meant to be the Evil Queen despite not being Apple’s stepmom, and Darling Charming has proven that she’s meant to be the love interest, the Prince Charming who saves the princess. Hunter Huntsman is the only Huntsman at the school (to my knowledge) and is apparently going to fulfill the Huntsman role in both Snow White and Red Riding Hood. Their roles are the only ones set in stone. I don’t recall seeing children of the seven dwarves attending Ever After High, so it’ll probably be a random group of dwarves that Apple meets in her tale. The good king who marries the evil queen and then dies is also negotiable, since Raven is the same age as Apple and so can’t really be her stepmother in any way. The only factors that matter to the story are that the good princess is tricked by the evil queen and falls into a coma, only until she is revived by her true love, at which point the evil queen is defeated and the lovers get their happily ever after.

[@melancholyjones2873]

The diary that came with the "royally ever after" apple doll actually tells a potential version of how their story would play out if raven signed the book! Raven would be apple's boss instead of stepmom, & would poison her bc she's annoyed by apple's perkiness, rather than out of jealously over looks. You can read it on the eah wiki!

[@neyssag5460]

would dexter turn out to be the good king??

[@v.v365]

@@neyssag5460 he’s definitely got that kind of disposition. Humble, kind, thoughtful, and to top it all off he fell for Raven first, later he started liking Cupid who started out at Monster High, so he’s definitely got a thing for spooky girls

[@Smile2bsilly]

Giles probably got cursed and locked away because that's what happens to ever princess when someone is trying to "protect them". Granted, the cursing is usually done by the bad guy but it still happens.

[@rachnajdi9578]

In the Legacy Day book, Headmaster Grimm does cancel Legacy Day after Raven doesn't sign because they all started arguing and Headmaster Grimm said they were all immature, so, yeah - it got cancelled. Also, Lizzie Hearts is my fav character because I relate to her on so many levels.

[@oooohhhrats]

The amount of lore in this children’s show was actually crazy

[@kennysdirtyhoodie3459]

Now that there isn’t any competition they should reboot the series. I feel like it would be popular again. The original run was very creative I enjoyed the cartoon a whole lot

[@Whyteroze28]

I remember a few months after I first learned about EAH, I was in a Taco Bell on Halloween, and a little girl came in dressed as Maddy, and when I recognized the character her face lit up so bright, and her parents were like, 'See, some people do recognize it.' It made my day to make her that happy!

[@LushusCox]

Aww that’s so cute 😊

[@Angryoyster]

I feel like people are WAY to hard on Apple. Like she genuinely cares about her friends. She really feels like the girl who was raised in a safe, sheltered home (like she thinks if you take a $2 pack of gum from a store you’ll go to jail for life lol). But yah as a rule follower I always related to Apple. It was so hard for me in my teen years when all my friends wanted to go against the rules but my anxiety wouldn’t let me. That being said I do always applaud that eah was told from Raven’s point of view a bit more. As often many stories are told from the “goody two shoes” characters pov and there are times when we need to be strong and go against the grain.

[@lovelycloudyskies]

Yeah, Apple got character development and decided she wanted to be her own person and dropped her destiny because she understood Raven. I felt really bad for her since her mother was pushing so much pressure on her to become perfect and popular. She changed a lot, and I applaud her for it

[@apriihana]

Yeah and all the pressure she gets from her mom is sad

[@viviennemorgan7217]

isn't apple into girls and not into boys?

[@iraxs5195]

@@viviennemorgan7217 yeah shes canonically a lesbian

[@viviennemorgan7217]

@@iraxs5195 agreed.

[@do_doctor]

EAH at its peak is the best show I’ve ever seen. It’s one of the few shows I wouldn’t mind getting a reboot for.

[@jamescortes8655]

But it has to be good

[@ella_cupcake]

Ever After High is the only multimedia thing where everything was equally good. The show, dolls, and books are different, but at least in its prime they were all incredible. This will always hold a special place in my heart

[@Suzziixoxo]

Fun Fact: From what we see in Way To Wonderland you can sign your name in someone else’s legacy book slot thing and get their destiny, this was shown to us by Courtly Jester.

[@Freezient]

I watched EAH way before Netflix put them on their site, I was so used to Legacy Day being like, the “season 1” finale or something cause it was just random filler episodes in between. I also love how the most of the Royal are actually Rebels and most of the Rebels are just Royals, they’re basically just Raven’s allies

[@judeafernandez5900]

This was my entire childhood. I can't believe they left us hanging about what's going to happen next.

[@AndroVWrites]

I wanna point out that the books also included Shakespearean characters! There was a character called “Clara Lear” after King Lear

[@ashermomin3239]

In A Semi-Charming Life, we also get to see Paul Bunyan’s daughter, Betty Bunion.

[@AdamYJ]

Thing is, “King Lear” is based on a fairy tale. Or rather, a folk tale. Look up “Like Meat Loves Salt” sometime.

[@floffy2695]

The Dragon Games was a SPELLTACULAR movie. I loved it as a kid and recently rewatched it again as an adult for the nostalgia. I appreciate it a lot more now. The plot is genuinely good, the character arcs were emotionally taxing and the DESIGNS. THEIR DRAGON GAMES ARMOUR. MAGNIFICENT.

[@cosmicstargirI]

as a kid i was obsessed with EAH. THE STORIES, THE CHARACTERS AND THE ANIMATION TOP TIER

[@LushusCox]

Me too

[@Dani_1012]

I'm STILL wondering who were the artists that came up with the character designs because it's GORGEOUS, I've never seen an art style like it 😢

[@captaincrazycreative]

I've been waiting so long for this video! It makes me so happy seeing a bigger youtuber talking about this show! Also the fact this was partially motivated out of spite after the treatment of the original eah video is great. I live for the petty

[@strabababerry]

I also was very obsessed with fairytales (a special interest, if you will) and when I found EAH, I was so happy watching it. I love watching your videos, especially these ones where you talk about EAH!

[@LoveE_0222]

I can’t believe I thought that Ever After High (2013) didn’t have dolls like Monster High (2010) competition, since they are a few years apart. But the “tickle in the soul” got me 😂❤ I was gonna pick this show up again but remembered I dropped off after Wonderland ( spoiler: and Apple becoming evil)

[@cantstopcray]

I was in high school when ever after came out. I loved Monster High and was already collecting the dolls and saw Ever After pop up on the shelves beside them. The fashion of Monster High was more my style, but Ever After had more compelling characters and arcs. I'm forever sad that I only ever got one Cedar doll because I wish I could have collected so many more for EAH😊

[@171QA]

I was interested in this series when I first heard that C.A. Cupid was going to be in a new spin-off show of Monster High. I personally like EHA more than MH because it plot just feels more interesting and the dolls look really good. Though I wish we had a EHA kid who was the daughter/son of the “Evil Dragon” from more fairytales. At least MH had Jinafire Long.

[@TheSadowdragonGroup]

5:23 I still remember the time I was asked in middle school what it meant to be popular, for some kind of project or class discussion, and my autistic ass said the quiet part loud with “to maintain an iron fisted rule over the social hierarchy by inflicting fear, awe and infighting upon the rest of us”

[@TheSadowdragonGroup]

9:42 the fact that the Charming family just mass produces Princes Charming to be distributed ad hoc does imply some degree of flexibility in who pledges to what specific destiny. Her plan is still stupid though, even aside from it being well outside the bounds of “generic archetype transparency”

[@TheSadowdragonGroup]

19:30 it looks kind of barky, so maybe it’s the Bramble Curse defending itself?

[@TheSadowdragonGroup]

At the end, I’m a bit surprised you didn’t mention the narrators at some point. I think they’re a neat method of establishing the different interpretations and they play into the Wonderland elements which you mentioned liking.

[@WilczycaCzarownica]

I was sad that they wanted to make movie with EAH and MH, but never happened. It would be something awesome, but they cancelled it, because of Disney. They even would introduced a new character from MH.

[@shyateverything5967]

Ever After High was honestly the gateway to me keeping my love for fairy tales! Now that I'm older, the thing keeping that love is Twisted Wonderland! I wish we could've gotten so much more with it!

[@nediksut]

I love the nuanced Apple opinions because I’ve genuinely had enough of people straight up not acknowledging she means well… also this entire show is about people wanting to get what they deem a happy ending. All of them even Raven. They all have the same amount of selfishness inside them and that’s not a bad thing. Like you said in 15:18 “No one is really good or bad”

[@Mecharnie_Dobbs]

They canceled it because of Disney's "Once Upon A Time" and "Disney's Decedents" having the same idea, didn't they? How many fairytale princess shows can the world support?

[@Mecharnie_Dobbs]

11:21 Told ya'

[@abriume]

“I remember that taking a lot longer” exactly how I felt rewatching lego ninjago, when zane finds out he’s a robot

[@miraimorikawa5568]

I remember reading a comment on the wiki page that when a royal enters the rankings, they're guaranteed a nicer ending. Probably an alternate version of the original lore, OR there might be a safety net for when they finally reach their bad ending. Kind of like if in your story, you're destined to die, it's written like that HOWEVER you are still very much alive after everything. I mean, some of the villains in fairy tales end up dying and yet they still had children after their story ended??

[@sarahthomas8670]

This is so interesting

[@miguelmoura9345]

6:14 Can you blame her, if Elden Ring taught us anything, is that people would 100% smash a big wolf man, if they had the opportunity. Also, after the act, you get to cuddle a big ball of fluf

[@Catlover-b5s]

I agree 👍

[@medixstar9184]

This show had such a great potential and plot. Even if they bring it back they will reboot it and make it even worse than the new Monster High. I miss the days before 2020 😭

[@oranplan1630]

The new Monster High isn't bad (at least the series- it's better than G2 lmao), we're just used to the old MH and miss it. But I've watched a bit of G3 and, really, it's fine. The designs are great, the episodes are fun, and the changes they made are largely good! Like making Frankie nonbinary. There's some things that throw me for a loop, sure: like choosing to go with Frankie x Cleo as a relationship, but it's fine, and francleo is cute lol. You just have to watch it with the knowledge that they're never gonna go back to G1, and accept the new series for what it is. If you have an open mind you'll end up much happier with the decision to reboot it again.

[@MG-km6xg]

If they ever reboot it I hope they'd just change the design into something more modern than changing the story plot. I like all character developemnts as such anyways....

[@danielmendes8975]

Honestly I do want EAH to get a reboot but purly cause of how so white the franchize was, like most we got was pinnchoos daughter who’s Black and briar who’s Latina, that’s it It seems they were gonna make it more diverse at the end but yknow it got cancelled afterwords

[@danielmendes8975]

@@oranplan1630 honestly the show just gives off major nick jr vibes(as in just there to distract the kid), im tired of how they can never make the designs even a little accraute to the dolls like the whole point of the show is to promote the dolls- A lot of the changes they did also aren’t good; yes I like that Frankie is nonbinary but why take clawdeen the only monoracial darkskinned Black girl and make her biracial .. despite the fact that everyone else expt for draculaura stayed monoracial white Them making draculaura an A+ Asian student and lagoona a very aggressive feisty Latina girl is also definetly a choice they even had lagoona call herself “spicy” in her song and Center her life around novlas The dolls tho are nice so they got that going for them

[@albedoweatheruno]

​@@MG-km6xg why a redesign tho? the designs were already ahead of its time and holds up pretty well for a generation who likes -core aesthetics lol i would just love to see the story continue and end naturally!

[@Luna-Silverwood]

What shocks me is that we never got a chance to see more of Robin Hood's story: it's even more obvious to me that someone doesn't want to sign off on this story; they would literally doom an entire kingdom (and I can't believe one generation could undo the damage done by one story turn) and you ask the child gods to willingly sign up for an entire lifetime (or at least a year) of living on the edge. We also have no idea what happened to their parents (except Marion) or what will happen to the future Prince John (it would be great if he was actually a good king and felt devastated about forcing his people to deal with such a situation) . I don't want to take anything away from Raven, I love her and will always cherish her, but man I'd be lying if I said that Sparrow and his gang didn't have a lot of reasons (that don't just concern themselves) not to sign on. Last thing, it would have also been nice, considering that there is no magic in Nottingham, to see the reactions of the students like the merry men on the first days of school: I don't know why but I imagine Sparrow either fascinated or completely terrified

[@CoquetteCygnet]

yesss i missed these ever after high videos, such an underrated series

[@kittygirlrachel]

Duchess SLIGHTLY makes sense if you look at the story of Swan Lake. Swan Lake wouldn't exactly end in a happily ever after, soooo she might've genuinely wanted to steal someone else's story so she'd take their happily ever after as she would never get one.

[@marthaelenabrenesorozco2953]

GOOD VIDEO, because MATTEL always seeks to annoy people who make videos of their cartoons that in the end are commercials and as you pointed out, the series is on KZbin

[@ki2348]

I was so sad that the series got discontinued. It was my favorite show and way better than Descendants. I've always loved Winx type shows, thanks for re-covering this!

[@HypnosiaRules]

The fact that it’s now only known for their shorts break my heart😭😭 I’ve been watching that show for ten years after stumbling upon it😭😭 REVIVE THE FANDOM‼️‼️

[@HypnosiaRules]

The moment I saw “over-attractive mom” I thought of raven and apples mums

[@PaintSplashProductions]

I’M SO EXCITED! Can not wait!

[@mynameisreallycool1]

6:04 Imagine marrying and having a baby with someone who is not only a different species, but also someone who tried to eat you and your grandma when you first met him. 💀

[@CherryRabbitXOX]

💀 “I can fix him”

[@Mollieslay]

Thank you SO. MUCH. There is a crazy lack of ever after high KZbin and I’m so happy I found this video. I love u so much

[@dracone4370]

I really enjoyed the narrators of the series, so much so that it could be fun to see their own children show up in the series as supporting cast. The idea between the children of the narrators is that they both really do want to keep the stories going, one focusing on the strict narrative structure most of us are used to seeing and the most publically well-known versions of stories, while the other has a looser interpretation of the rules following in the (ironically) older tradition of storytelling where the narrator is basically a participant observer and is so acutely aware of just how there are so many different versions of most fairytales that even though they know which story a character is talking about or part of that they actually will point out there are different versions and/or ask which version of the story other characters are talking about; I also think it could be a fun twist on the whole idea of stories having narrators, and the narrators sending their own children to the school to effectively immerse themselves in the stories they will be helping to tell is a fun thought to have. I also had the idea that the stricter of the two would side with the Royals. In contrast, the ironically more traditional of the two would side with the Rebels because the more stringent of the two believe a story needs to follow its given narrative no matter what because once a story is written down, that's how it will always be until someone comes along to correct some errors, while the more relaxed of the two is of the belief for stories to survive they need to change and grow with the times because they believe a story is its own entity that needs to adapt and change with the progression of time. Both approaches are valid, and have merit. And I like to think, to an extent, we see this played out with the Grimm brothers themselves, the idea that different ideas of how stories are meant to play out are reflected in the characters of the Brothers Grimm when we encounter them. But the idea of the narrators also having children being sent to attend the school to basically get them to understand why their future roles as narrators are so important, despite the fact they already know this, could be fun to see, along with the two constantly poking fun at each other for their narration styles and approaches to storytelling could be absolutely hilarious, especially with most of the rest of the cast basically being lost on the fight or only partially managing to keep up. And because Maddie can actually hear the narrators, and has interacted with them on occasion, she would be one of the only other characters to reasonably keep up with the future narrators during their little spats and disputes while she's there. Still, the fact of finding out fairytale narratives can, and have, the ability to change could embolden the Rebels a bit to fight harder to see what they can do to change the narratives of their own stories. And, honestly thinking, if the series had been allowed to continue we might have seen those sorts of character pop up.

[@tokuroko597]

I was today's years old when I realized why Duchess wanted to also change her destiny, (for some reason I thought that the story of the animated Swan Princess is where all this is coming from) and totally forgot the actual story of Swan Lake Oh well...

[@faithhopesimpson2720]

I still have hope they will bring this show back. This show and doll franchise was awesome and I liked it way more than descendants. Plus the thought that the original monster high series and ever after high was going to have a cross over with Cupid being in both shows. I would have loved to see it and it explained how Cupid came to ever after high in school

[@masterofvoreth8636]

As the Ever After High lore guy, this is a series that really means a lot to me. This is actually the series that inspired me to become a writer.

[@quintirissk]

This video and your explanation literally dissected my old childhood thoughts into a more organized matter and I love it. Always will be my obsession

[@hannahphelan7184]

I had the throne coming doll for apple when I was younger and I accidentally broke the leg and I'm still sad about it. Also amazing video

[@cheribitch5396]

the way I accidentally broke my sisters briar doll leg / those rapunzel doll twins legs lmfaoo

[@rosiebeth07]

I’m so glad there are still people who love this series as much as my sibling and I do. I need more EAH content!!!

[@basilhibiscus6119]

Am I the only one who loved that Maddie’s name was spelt “Madeline” but it was pronounced “Madelyn” it added to her quirkiness in my opinion.

[@cova_exists]

Completely off topic but I am now stealing Madelyn for my ocs and no one can stop me. I have an oc named "Madelyn" Now ty EAH

[@tolulope431]

I really love your videos. There what I got to first whenever I think of an old show, your everafter high video was how I got to your channel

[@multifandom5942]

Love the movies and shorts. Also i LOVE EAH & DESCENDANTS. BOTH ARE SO GOOD. ❤❤❤. Wish eah would come back though

[@friendlyneighbourhoodash]

i really wish we got a scene of raven telling apple what would happen to her if she signed... the straight up guilt apple would feel because as far as im aware, apple doesn't know what would end up happening to raven

[@clarasundqvist6013]

Literally obsessed with the pettiness in the beginning on this video. Absolutely the correct response!!

[@limejuice6564]

10:15 I think that in the "Way too wonderland" special, the Jester says that she is gonna signed where Lizzie Hearts page is to have her destiny and be the queen, so I guess is possible that Duchess could sign in someone elses page

[@Lalaithlen]

Fables was one of the first to do the twist on fairy tales. Love when creators give a twist to all the original tales.

[@ivysanders4368]

Now I could be remembering this wrong, but what really sold me on EAH was when I watched the Dutchess-centered short and the way she talked about her destiny connected the most to the ballet where the swan dies in the end. That gave me so much respect for a kids show willing to tackle that issue, albeit with subtlety.

[@fanofmheahshrhghouldess1428]

Wait a splinter....EAH review? Soooo spelltacular, NL. Thank you for your conviction to share this incredible story n ahmazing characters of it! Soooooooo good!

[@ellieevergreen6565]

This was my childhood im so happy to see people are actually talking about this show

[@ruiqing7]

I forgot how good this show is, I need to watch it again

[@Star.ia17]

in the book i think after raven didn't sign Headmaster Grimm cancelled the Legacy Day Ceremony so some people didn't get the sign. That's how the whole royal rebel thing started cuz a few people were relived that they didn't sign and a few were upset

[@valery5360]

i regularly rewatch the whole show and im glad theres people out there who still care about it

[@jaquaebarwise7647]

I love how ever after high made red and the wolf HAVE A FRACKIN BABYYY kinda questionable but funny enough stays in line most iterations of the original brothers grim story😂😂 also nice channel man just found you today so I will be binging

[@cicadathegod8277]

I still have my Raven doll after all these years. I still pray one day they’ll bring back the franchise.

[@JustClaude13]

As doll commercials go, Ever After high was the best philosophical study of the conflict between destiny and free will that I've ever seen. By the way, Raven isn't evil. That's the whole problem she's having with her destiny. Regal Academy (also developed at the same time) wasn't as well written, artistically, but a lot of fun.

[@stardustmorpho7751]

I regret giving away all of my Ever After High dolls SO much. Their outfits are genuinely so good and are so nostalgic for me. I've been looking into trying to collect them again but oh my lord are they expensive, especially the original outfit ones.

[@kaekaesam6240]

2:55 I didn’t wanna do it because I had a breathing problem as a child but that didn’t matter so they made me either be out side the classroom door while it went on or pretend to just lip sink

[@kittymarch4203]

the characters designs are amazing

[@yourlocalcatperson9623]

im 18:53 you said they dont show the other girls getting the pages, however i do remember that on the official eah website there were webisodes on the retrieval of said pages. The went into a lot of detail of the potential struggles of each destiny

[@Picking.a.name.is.hard1]

Mattell: haha copyright! This absolute CHAD: Ever After high detailed deep dive ❤

[@ameliaroseillustrations]

I also like how characters can be both a royal and a rebel (like Briar or Ashlyn), which is great for indecisive people like me 😂😂

[@AzmiAb]

I just recently binged it all again trying to figure out the chronological order and get the plot, could actually make a decent television cartoon instead of shorts

[@LucyheartfiliaLUVR]

I would actually like to disagree with the Duchess Swan statement she had every right to want a new story. She doesn't want to be cursed to be a swan forever, like her mom losing the ability to do what she loves, which is dancing. She also still wants to stay royalty, so instead, she tries to take someone else's story. Makes perfect sense to be a troublemaker.

[@krussyarts]

It still hurts me deeply how Apple was,, almost unable to see things from Raven's perspective. We know Apple cares for her friends, but i think, above all, that she just wants her destiny to become true. She wants the stability that comes with it. But i don't think she really truly realises that not everyone has that stability. Least of all the "villains". I feel like it turns the story (snow white) on its head. With Apple pushing Raven into something she clearly doesn't want. I really really wish they could've explored that. With Apple ending up accidentally poisoning Raven or something, so she had to see her friend be in that position because of her. I think (at least for earlier Apple) that would be among the only ways to make her realise what Raven would have to go through. I also kinda would've liked Raven start learning basic survival skills, like farming and stuff to prepare for "inevitably" being homeless. (its a bit of a headcanon of mine that she does) (Kinda like Katharina Claes in My Next Life As Villainess) (Maybe Apple could have seen her tend to an Apple tree she's been raising (it grows a bit quicker because she's studying botanical magic outside of school) and at first getting really excited about Raven raising the future poison apple. She goes to talk to Raven about it (because Apple lacks tact, we all know this) but before she can say anything about any poison apples, Raven startles and nervously asks what she's doing here, Apple says she just followed her after class because she looked suspicious, and asks what she's doing. (I'm thinking "But what are YOU doing here Raven? I wasn't aware that you knew of this place. Are you bringing up a poison apple tree ;>?") Raven is used to those comments at this point, she rolls her eyes and crosses her arms, "No, Apple, I've been learning about agriculture in my free time." She pulls back a shrub, revealing several small patches of farmland with small leaves breaking through the earth in the nearest one and ripe vegetables growing in the farthest. Apple was about to speak, confused by what this was, when Raven continued talking, a rare undertone of pride and excitement accompanied her voice, "It's almost time for the first harvest." Although still a bit lost for words, Apple managed to prop the question, "But what's this for? I wasn't aware you had a hobby in digging through dirt." Raven stiffened next to her, Apple tore her eyes off the vegetables. Raven was avoiding her eyes and a frown darkened her face. "Well. Some of us have to prepare for their life after their destiny." "But didn't you say that you wanted to write your own? And why would you even need to learn this stuff in the first place? I don't get it." Raven closed her eyes. She hadn't expected Apple to understand, why would she. "I did say that, yes. But that doesn't mean I will get that chance. Some people-" her eyes briefly flick up to meet Apples before she looks away again. "-are really set on it coming true. And I don't want to end up on the street and go hungry because i wasn't prepared. So I do have to learn this stuff. Because unlike you, i don't get guaranteed to live out my days happily ever after in comfortable bliss." They fell quiet after that, and it felt as though even the birds had stopped singing. Apple was unsure of how to respond. She hadn't really considered this. Raven mentioned previously how the fake story book of legends had shown her to homeless and alone, back then Apple dismissed it. Hadn't taken it seriously. To her, it hadn't been real, how could Raven be homeless? How could she be alone? They were friends, right? Apple wouldn't allow that to happen.. Right? She'd just invite Raven to live with her in her castle, they'd live a happily ever after together. And they'd get to hang out with their friends again like they do now.. Right? Well.. Briar wouldn't be there, she'd be asleep.. But Darling and the others would be there! Hunter and Ashley.. Would they still be together then? Would they be allowed to? They'd all be fine. Things would be like they are now. They'd all be happy. Apple snapped back to reality. When had it gotten this dark? When did she sit down? She got up, dusting off her dress before she looked around and called; "Raven?" Nothing. Apple hugged herself, she felt cold. Quietly she made her way back to her dorm room. Throwing one last glance at the apple tree. One of the apples was slowly starting to redden, one half was red and the other still a light green. My hand may have slipped. If anyone actually read this thank you?? Why would you do that lmao

[@taylynhopkins]

On top of that her refusal to understand Briars fate and why Briar was also a rebel. Like girl she’s going to sleep for a hundred years!!! She’s gonna lose everyone she ever knew

[@krussyarts]

@@taylynhopkins exactly!! Briar is supposed to be a close friend of Apples, but there she is, not even trying to understand her viewpoint! It literally took her literally being in Briars place I don't actually remember if that did much though,,, i mean, Briar literally yelled at her that she doesn't want to sleep for a hundred years because then her friends will all be gone,, homegirl just shrugged and moved on with her day

[@Multiversal_Studios_Offical]

I loved ever after high as a kid and always wondered what happened to it,so glad you're doing an in dept cover of this show it was amazing,honestly one of the only shows i'd ever truely loved as a kid, i also seem to forget the show entirely until its mentioned somewhere and then i get my nostogic memories back lol

[@guiny7934]

omg thank you so much !!! i was obsessed and i still think of it from time to time, this was a huge part of my teenagehood

[@cyansky8178]

I actually JUST went back to watch a good chunk of the specials again a few weeks ago, so seeing you return to this series was a wonderful surprise! I honestly adore Ever After High, and I’m proud of myself knowing that I was a fan of it since the very beginning of it back in the early-mid 2010s. My favorite specials are Way Too Wonderland and the snow one I forgot the name of it lmao. It’s just fantastic and the song that they got for the transformation ‘down the rabbit hole’ scene for Way Too Wonderland is etched into my heart. It’s just truly something special.

[@dustymomentpatio1883]

YES EVER AFTER HIGH AMAZING cedar has a grasshopper clip in her hair and i kept watching the time on the TV in the background i rreally look forward to the rest of this like deep dive of ever after high. something i thought was cool about ever after high was how it could also mean the "making your own path or following what others (probably parents for the demographic) tell you to" as like a deeper lesson. one thing that i realized recently that confused me was how a good amount of the rebels technically fall under the categorization of "royals" but because of the name it just seemed like royals were princesses and princes. for example, maddie seems like she wants to continue her dad's tea thing and hunter is totally fine with his destiny of being like his dad since his destiny doesn't specifically say who he has to marry, and like this video said ashlynn and briar now kinda fall into the rebel category even though they are technically "royalty"