A Different Way to Build An Electric Dirt Bike - Part 2

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2 жыл бұрын

Today we are converting a cheap Pit Bike into electric power with a 6000w 72v electric motor I purchased from Electro & Co. Instead of removing the gas engine and replacing it with the electric motor, I wanted to still have the gears the Pit Bike originally had. so I figured out a way to remove the crankshaft and replace it with a sprocket so I could run it with the electric motor. I'm very excited to finish this project and see what this thing can do!!
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@Doc_89
@Doc_89 2 жыл бұрын
To any major manufacture individual watching; this is what we want regarding electrics - The feeling of shifting gears! That or affordable conversion kits to existing bikes.
@sedgar11
@sedgar11 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more, need a clutch for enduro.
@Andre_Thomasson
@Andre_Thomasson 2 жыл бұрын
I rode one of those trek e bikes (mountainbikes) on turbo mode once and i gotta say, the motor did basically everything and shifting and then hearing the sound and feeling the pull was amazing
@eriklarson9137
@eriklarson9137 2 жыл бұрын
Talk about the next huge business potential. If you could work it out somehow to make it easy to add a quiet, much torquier motor and battery without adding weight to existing bikes, you would be printing money. If the battery tech is there. It's probably close if it isn't there yet.
@Goatee_yay
@Goatee_yay 2 жыл бұрын
Plenty manual electric motorcycles on the market dude. Can also get manual conversion kits as well.
@AKAtheA
@AKAtheA 2 жыл бұрын
Alta was able to kick ass specifically because it did *not* need a clutch and was single speed - both feet free and superb power control. Also the additional rotating mass of the gears and clutch make it much harder to implement useful traction control. Shifting gears on an electric bike that goes less then the legal speed limit is pointless and dumb, makes it perform worse.
@charlieritchel1492
@charlieritchel1492 2 жыл бұрын
A trick I learned years ago about welding thin metal to thick metal was you weld the thick metal to the thin. Meaning you start your puddle on the thick and bring it over to tie into the thin.
@williamickes3143
@williamickes3143 Жыл бұрын
shut up !
@11sjv
@11sjv 11 ай бұрын
thats not a trick thats common sense
@charlieritchel1492
@charlieritchel1492 11 ай бұрын
@@11sjv well not everyone knows everything like you.
@user-fc1zs1wh9g
@user-fc1zs1wh9g Ай бұрын
well no shit ...you figure that out all by yourself ? lol
@seivaDsugnA
@seivaDsugnA 7 күн бұрын
I'm a glue man.
@ezraskope5997
@ezraskope5997 2 жыл бұрын
The work ethic on this project deserves an A++....
@chadlinkhart755
@chadlinkhart755 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you added the machinery in it. I actually love watching those machine works.especially like laser plasma cutters that you could take a solid disk of chrome and put in the specs in the shape you want it, cut out and cut your own rims out, that's even more badass
@dukiemoto8676
@dukiemoto8676 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the fact that you HAVE TO use the clutch and throttle just like a i.c.e. bike!
@cubleycat
@cubleycat 2 жыл бұрын
I can never understand why electric bikes don’t have gears, this seems to make much more sense, awesome mod!
@robmanueb.
@robmanueb. 2 жыл бұрын
Electric motors can have wide flat power curves which makes gearboxes less of an advantage, gearboxes increase friction, weight and cost so if a manufacturer can avoid them through having a more flexible motor they will. Often they can get by with just a couple of gears hi/low range.
@russellzauner
@russellzauner 2 жыл бұрын
because of the extra complexity as well as programming; yes the drag but really if you don't program in your applied torque curves to the controller you'll destroy most gearboxes on first ride. There are bikes with gears, they're just expensive, compared to a 4500 USD Sur-Ron or Talaria - a base model is almost twice as much although you do get gearing, suspension, and range options. And yes, they do by and large use clutch systems (see OSET or ePure EV trials bikes) If Enviolo (formlerly Nuvinci) would get their act together and release a CVT that could take at least 250Nm of torque or even better 500Nm, then you would see a huge increase in large powerplant superbikes - the Isle of Man TT Zero class comes to mind. But it would be a more useful improvement to be able to *decrease* weight and power demands and keep your top speed/bottom torque both. Gearing opens up a lot of options for the vehicle designer although usually increases parts count.
@GENcELL2014
@GENcELL2014 2 жыл бұрын
Best thing to keep in mind is how brutal the power delivery is from a electric motor, gears used in EV vehicles whether for just power delivery or in a transmission tend to be quite beefy compared to a similar sized gas vehicle gears or transmission. So in the end reliable EV gears or transmissions are a lot more heavy duty and expensive even on something like a dirt bike.
@MrJermbob
@MrJermbob 2 жыл бұрын
@@GENcELL2014 More brutal than dropping a twin plate clutch on a 1000hp car ?
@Ratkill9000
@Ratkill9000 2 жыл бұрын
No need for it really.
@EBIKEScott
@EBIKEScott 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone says you do not need a gearbox with electric, but I bought the Denzel 4 speed gearbox 3 years ago and bolted it on a dirt bike and it is loads of fun shifting gears! Nice job on the clean converison! My motor also gets pretty hot
@1961nuffield
@1961nuffield Жыл бұрын
I'd have made the top part of the battery box support structural and have linked it to the headstock, an elegant solution to providing the frame strength you removed. Great project!
@spyder7758
@spyder7758 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see more helmet use! As I say "only those with something worth protecting in their heads wear a helmet" Gary Busey cracked his egg on the curb riding a Harley slow, changed him forever
@anomalouswoof2554
@anomalouswoof2554 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning this ;^)
@kevinbillingsley8256
@kevinbillingsley8256 Жыл бұрын
You mean Gary Busey's not an incredible jackass with a whopping case of adult ADD anymore?
@timothyhall7153
@timothyhall7153 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, he started touting helmets every where he went. He sold out. Hard to look cool wearing a helmet. You seen the bull riders? Look ridiculous
@askagain6169
@askagain6169 Жыл бұрын
@@timothyhall7153 Ya you see the comformies as the sub increase I guess it’s part of the biz
@jcerullo5015
@jcerullo5015 Жыл бұрын
@@timothyhall7153 hard to talk with brain damage too.
@toddstanley7804
@toddstanley7804 2 жыл бұрын
Larger spocket on electric motor to get transmission in the same operating range as the gas engine, larger rear wheel sprocket, and shim the clutch springs
@mkultra4542
@mkultra4542 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly right.
@nzmx0166
@nzmx0166 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure this guy is a moto person... but cool build by all means
@steve23464
@steve23464 11 ай бұрын
It's funny watching you pull in the clutch to drop it in to 1st gear before taking off. Muscle memory at its finest. Great video and build.
@aaronkent76
@aaronkent76 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your hard work and talent to bring this together and share it with everyone 👍😁
@FloridaMan0561
@FloridaMan0561 2 жыл бұрын
The way you were able to design the bike to have the ability to change gears is absolutely genius!
@AutoRevisieOutOftheBOX
@AutoRevisieOutOftheBOX Жыл бұрын
thanks, becuse i design it to, back in 2018, bud never build it, iam glad to see there are more with the same idee
@jumpman4497
@jumpman4497 Жыл бұрын
@@AutoRevisieOutOftheBOX ^top kek
@matthewf1979
@matthewf1979 2 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree that shifting gears is still fun with electric motors. The chain will bring up any oil that touches it into the motor case. It’s not really a bad thing, but the gearbox is probably low.
@breakshot7451
@breakshot7451 2 жыл бұрын
same thought, that when the primary chain gets a little lubrication is not the worst
@1one3_Racing
@1one3_Racing 2 жыл бұрын
It shouldn't be getting oil at all, but as you said, it's a good thing. I'd add a catch can to the bottom of the chain guard and let it leak. That way you get a self-oiling chain but don't get oil into the motor. You just have to tip the catch can back into the gearbox every now and then
@SloppyMechanics
@SloppyMechanics 2 жыл бұрын
next time you are going to cut or weld a tank, use exhaust from something and hose to pump c02 into it itll displace all of the fumes with inert C02
@spencerbookman2523
@spencerbookman2523 2 жыл бұрын
I would suggest filling the tank with water to displace the fumes.
@joeyhazlett
@joeyhazlett 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't he just fill it with water to displace any remaining fumes or liquid gasoline, then just drain it and cut it wet? Seems easier to me than trying to contain co2 in the tank while he's manhandling it.
@Thor555555
@Thor555555 2 жыл бұрын
unnecessary, i never did that when welding or cutting on a tank. point one, to explode, there must be a "pressure chaimber" which there isn´t if you don´t have closed the tank cap. of cause there are some things to note to not get burned by a flame shooting out the tank. i allways do it almost the same way, empty tank, dry it with pressured air for a a few minutes than put a lighter to the open tank filling. mostly nothing happens sometimes a short "wupp" and a little flame burns for a few seconds. when that flame burned out there is nothing else in the tank that is able to ignite.
@aroncharlwood1777
@aroncharlwood1777 2 жыл бұрын
I cut lpg tanks all the time I just fill it with water I'm still here to tell the story
@99milesaway41
@99milesaway41 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thor555555 Same, works every time
@SvendsenWorks
@SvendsenWorks 2 жыл бұрын
"I want to build another one...just a lot bigger/better..." best words ever spoken!
@Todd_Gerhardt
@Todd_Gerhardt 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a electric motor with a cvt belt drive! I bet one day u will! Good job on all your builds Chris, they truly are inspiring!
@nirodper
@nirodper 2 жыл бұрын
cvt adds losses and there are no benefits in an electric motor really
@tinkerne-round4079
@tinkerne-round4079 2 жыл бұрын
@@nirodper I agree. Electric motors have basically full torque at all speeds. I'd think he should be able to take off from a stop in a higher gear and actually accelerate faster.
@c0c0asauce
@c0c0asauce 2 жыл бұрын
@@tinkerne-round4079 I think the lower gears would be most useful for multiplying torque in low speed situations like crawling slowly over logs/stairs.
@yoratoni_depreciated
@yoratoni_depreciated 2 жыл бұрын
Not only 48 minutes long but also earlier than usual, thank you bro !
@fiveola
@fiveola Жыл бұрын
I love this! I still like the sound of machines and especially the gears working even on an e-MC. It probably gives you more awareness of how fast you're going.
@kinkong1961
@kinkong1961 2 жыл бұрын
once again you have done an awesome job on converting it to electric still giving that feel of an engine with a twist grip and gears amazing job as always.
@calholli
@calholli 2 жыл бұрын
another way to safely cut fuel tanks is to just fill it up with water... That will push all the fumes out and wash out all the liquid.
@oikkuoek
@oikkuoek 2 жыл бұрын
Before hitting the dirt, mudguarding the motor would give it a fighting chance to get back on the trailer by it's own power. Also, when doing a gearing change, always go up first. Bigger front sprocket, bigger initial gearing, etc. This way you don't lose the leverage @ the rear wheel, while prolonging the lifespan of the chain. For a basic chain, 13 teeth is the flat minimum. 15-17 is good for the driving gear, bigger than that starts to eat the torque, i.e the motor heats up, clutch gives in, bearings wear out etc. Under 35 @ the rear does the same. On this particular setup, I would go 17 on the E-motor, 15 on the crank, 17 on the engine secondary, and 35 on the rear wheel. It will do 75, if the clutch holds. When hitting the dirt, just swap the original rear sprocket back on.
@Lucas12v
@Lucas12v 2 жыл бұрын
Bigger on the front (as opposed to smaller in the rear) would also save the chain sliders on the swingarm a bit.
@taimanchan7057
@taimanchan7057 Жыл бұрын
Since clutch and gear box design was related with the original engine, gear ratio from motor to gear box should reference for the RPM and torque in the original design to avoid buring the clutch. Before changing the rear wheel ratio, the aforesaid factors should take a more important role.
@captaingoldbeered803
@captaingoldbeered803 Жыл бұрын
@@taimanchan7057 Exactly what I was thinking when he mentioned the clutch slipping.
@vincentchaza8111
@vincentchaza8111 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info.I always thot that a smallest rear sprocket is best for speed.just like on mountain bike...
@williamickes3143
@williamickes3143 Жыл бұрын
shut up !
@joandodds7626
@joandodds7626 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this build and putting your work & thoughts for us to view, you did a awesome job 👍‼️🇨🇦
@MrJerry519
@MrJerry519 Жыл бұрын
Very inspiring!!! Love the concept. After watching this I have decided to do a similar build with an old YZ 80 I have. Congratulations and keep up the great work.
@southerndualsport3827
@southerndualsport3827 2 жыл бұрын
Great build!! I've built MANY electric bikes and these people doing these single speed builds simply DONT UNDERSTAND for some reason, that for slow speed climbing scenarios, technical stuff, like single-track, GEARS MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE! you will climb better, run cooler, waste less energy through heat, HAVE GREATER RANGE, burn up less electrics, and have MORE FUN!
@alexr2539
@alexr2539 Жыл бұрын
in my opinion if your not going to be dong serious trail riding and just want somthing easy to build while being fun doing a single gear system is totally fine, you really dont need all the gearing for just cruzing around, now if you were going to do serious trail riding then mabye this would be the better option.
@Dex99SS
@Dex99SS 11 ай бұрын
I've been saying this since day 1... all these single speed bikes are idiotic. Same principal at play as any other anything, doesn't matter what's making the power, gearing is everything! Gearing manipulates torque, and manipulating torque is the entire premise at play. it's why gears are what you've been after since you were a toddler. From a single speed baby bike, to a 10 speed, to a 21 speed and up. Same with cars, same with trucks, same with atvs, same with EVs... or at least it should be, but for some reason everyone's happy banging their head against the wall and drooling instead. It's like there's some unofficial yet totally official rule at play, that anything "ev" has to be made for the lowest common intellectual denominator. Gears are too confusing!
@jetink600
@jetink600 2 жыл бұрын
I like how different each of your builds is. Can't wait to see more of the trike. You got a million off road builds and it's nice to see something for the streets
@bobmurray3229
@bobmurray3229 Жыл бұрын
You did a masterful job with this project. You are also a very talented machinist 🇺🇸
@TestingEverythingElectri-xt9ov
@TestingEverythingElectri-xt9ov 10 күн бұрын
wow who would have even thought about doing what this young lad has done, what a superb job, just how fast was this machine.
@Ningtek
@Ningtek 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome work. Can’t wait to see the next one. Do yourself a favour in the next build and use a two stroke motor as it already has the sealed crankcase. All you would need to do is build a new crankshaft for it and not have to worry about trying to seal the crankcase from the gearbox. Thanks for the great content.
@dw4956
@dw4956 2 жыл бұрын
To much work. The 4 stroke already has chain and sprocket for the camshaft
@KillaMTB
@KillaMTB 2 жыл бұрын
@@dw4956 he didn't use the existing cam chain on the pit bike engine he modified the crankshaft and fitted his own chain an sprocket I assume the same can be done on a 2 stroke engine
@shno_deela6986
@shno_deela6986 2 жыл бұрын
@@dw4956 yes but the cam chain is one, very thin and two, will carry oil out of the gear case when spinning
@formuladriftmk2records253
@formuladriftmk2records253 2 жыл бұрын
Best off doing what he did like you've already said its setup pretty well in order to have an electronic motor where the cam use to be is an awesome idea. I want to build myself one so stripping the scooter and my old beat pitbike is a GO for sure when I get the right equipment 😇
@natechrisman5187
@natechrisman5187 2 жыл бұрын
And a much taller gear range
@scottcorbin4605
@scottcorbin4605 2 жыл бұрын
Make sure your using wet clutch oil. Wrong oil could cause slipping. Cool conversion, although I miss the noise!
@ExploringCabinsandMines
@ExploringCabinsandMines 2 жыл бұрын
lol 10-30 Motor oil is shared with the gearbox.
@bwxmoto
@bwxmoto 2 жыл бұрын
@@ExploringCabinsandMines And it has to be the correct oil or it will wreck the wet clutch. Has to be oil designed to work with a wet clutch as Scott Corbin said. Not sure if Rather B Welding used motorcycle oil or not though. Synthetic or not doesn't matter though.
@ExploringCabinsandMines
@ExploringCabinsandMines 2 жыл бұрын
@@bwxmoto Had dirt bikes all my life I have 5 right now regular 10-40 or 20-50 is fine , who told you the wrong oil will wreck the clutch your Mom ?
@josephhollifield660
@josephhollifield660 2 жыл бұрын
Automotive engine oil will make a wet clutch slip every time. Use Motorcycle oil! You can also use Rotella, it's cheap and won't make a clutch slip, but I'd recommend motorcycle oil.
@josephhollifield660
@josephhollifield660 2 жыл бұрын
@@ExploringCabinsandMines no its not dude. You need to use motorcycle oil. The stuff designed for cars will make a wet clutch slip like crazy. Motorcycle oil or Rotella, rotella doesn't have the friction modifiers of regular car engine oil and won't make a clutch slip.
@dalvenable331
@dalvenable331 Жыл бұрын
If you have not found a good way to silence your internal chain is line the inside of your cover with silicon strips for the chain guides. the white strips get wear but hold up pretty well and are easy to change.
@markcdeyoung3118
@markcdeyoung3118 2 жыл бұрын
Put stiffer clutch springs in it or just put washers under the springs ! 😁👍
@BenMitro
@BenMitro 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, around 14.5 minutes running full load. 20 minutes if you back off a little. That is awesome. Thanks for taking on such a project. For the next project, bigger motor means bigger battery or less time. Maybe you can lay some batteries on either side of the frame and under the seat, so find the batteries and build the frame around them. Biggest problem may be the clutch pack again - bigger motor means a lot more torque.
@marioc9836
@marioc9836 2 жыл бұрын
The clutch will handle it as long as the gear increase is before the clutch and not after. The clutch can handle the speed but not the torque.
@andyb7963
@andyb7963 2 жыл бұрын
A bigger motor would mean not needing a gearbox or clutch, it's all about the torque
@BenMitro
@BenMitro 2 жыл бұрын
@@andyb7963 Ofcourse!! Obvious now you mention it Andy! You still have a gear going from the motor to the wheel to play with, and you need convert the 0 - 6000RPM of the motor to say 0 to 100mph of the bike so you need a reduction ratio of around 8:1. Problem is ratio of 8:1 needs 12 teeth on the motor and 96 teeth on the wheel - that is too large wheel gear and too small for the motor end, Ideally a 2:1 or 3:1 reduction box will still be necessary before the chain drive cogs. Perhaps a direct drive arrangement may be better? Ofcourse sizing the motor, given you will need that kind of reduction is very important too since an electric motor has maximum torque at 0RPM and zero torque at 6000RPM.
@myturkishlife1777
@myturkishlife1777 2 жыл бұрын
Happy RBW day everyone :-) Love how this guy cracks on with it ... I did smile though when you were leaving the workshop and you pulled in the clutch to engage 1st then let the clutch out slowly .. I suppose you don't need to do that to pull away,, I would have done the same if you still have the riding an internal combustion engine process in your head,, Great job good work ,,
@wolfparty4234
@wolfparty4234 2 жыл бұрын
No way Bro, I love what you did!! Having the ability to go through the gears is great!! I love it!!
@thatoneguybrian2365
@thatoneguybrian2365 2 жыл бұрын
Cameras don't always love watching the high intensity light emitted from welding. That has a tendency to break them.
@mrshaneyt4356
@mrshaneyt4356 2 жыл бұрын
I love it . Having electric but with the feel of a normal bike with the gears is very cool . This whole build has been so interesting 👍
@SacredHeart0520
@SacredHeart0520 10 ай бұрын
Not gonna feel anything like a ic engine . Your decreasing performance and increasing chances of breaking . Plus the trans isn't made for the hi torque that electric motor always puts out . Cool in theory but just kinda dumb . And will cause problems .
@jessbread4670
@jessbread4670 8 ай бұрын
​​@@SacredHeart0520honestly using a slightly less strong motor for his build wouldve been better, because the motor he used was just too much which made the clutch go bye bye
@tinkerne-round4079
@tinkerne-round4079 2 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to think back on this build. What would keep you from introducing oil to the engine chain box to reduce noise? I'd think since there isn't a rotating assembly now you could bring your oil level as high as needed.
@2pist
@2pist Жыл бұрын
I have considered myself a fairly ingenious and creative guy. You are the inspiration for creative and ingenious people.
@olegproservice
@olegproservice Жыл бұрын
you made my idea two years ago come true, you did a great job. well done!! Congratulations!!
@kene6838
@kene6838 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting build Chris, looking forward to a more aggressive build. Also if you let the exhaust from your car blow into a gas tank it removes all fumes, and never slap in in dry.
@holleyciggy
@holleyciggy 2 жыл бұрын
That last one tho....words of wisdom
@xdbuddytv1321
@xdbuddytv1321 2 жыл бұрын
im so happy finaly seeing something like that from you its epic can you do that with a more sporty bike and bigger motor and battery
@JakeItsTheCops
@JakeItsTheCops 2 жыл бұрын
So are you happy or not happy?
@xdbuddytv1321
@xdbuddytv1321 2 жыл бұрын
@@JakeItsTheCops im happy and its an idea for a other projekt
@resgatecarocanaldoprofesso517
@resgatecarocanaldoprofesso517 Жыл бұрын
Veículos elétricos são o futuro, parabéns pelo vídeo, abraços do Brasil.
@jerryaubert6201
@jerryaubert6201 10 ай бұрын
Right on!!! Using the old oil! Reduce, REUSE, then recycle.
@beatersnbeers2145
@beatersnbeers2145 2 жыл бұрын
If you run copper tube through the fins of the motor and have a small coolant pump and radiator you could make it liquid cooled. Electric motors do much better when cool vs hot.
@FloridaMan0561
@FloridaMan0561 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a great idea.
@Paulman50
@Paulman50 2 жыл бұрын
What about better air cooling
@beatersnbeers2145
@beatersnbeers2145 2 жыл бұрын
@@Paulman50 that would be much simpler
@diptenkrom
@diptenkrom 2 жыл бұрын
awesome build. i think more electrics should have gears - it has to add efficiency as well. as for gas tanks, run exhaust gasses into the filler while you are cutting after rinsing out. that keep the oxygen out and it wont explode. and when you ride down the road, at least should wear goggles or safety glasses, a bug would make a bad day.
@MrArcticPOWER
@MrArcticPOWER 2 жыл бұрын
A transmission like this reduces the efficiency because of all the friction in the additional moving parts.
@NVMDSTEvil
@NVMDSTEvil 2 жыл бұрын
gears reduce efficiency depending on the efficiency range of the electric motor, but yeah in an off-road application it can help a lot if you're falling into low-rpm points with the electric motor.
@TBJ_X_VISUALS
@TBJ_X_VISUALS 2 жыл бұрын
Ha funny you said that I literally just my 1/2 helmet on cruisin around an a fat ass bug flew in my eye while I was gettin off the fwy. Fml..
@andyb7963
@andyb7963 2 жыл бұрын
@@NVMDSTEvil electric motors provide full torque from a standstill, petrol motors don't, hence the gearbox, not needed on an electric motor
@cainadkins3985
@cainadkins3985 2 жыл бұрын
@@andyb7963 ummmmm
@joseverdejo9010
@joseverdejo9010 9 ай бұрын
This is my favorite of all your projects, would love to see this on a dirt bike or even a small Honda civic or something
@scottmcelrath2737
@scottmcelrath2737 Жыл бұрын
I think it's awesome just the fact you can shift gears of electric motorcycle let's just freaking great good job
@AJCsr
@AJCsr Жыл бұрын
On the dirt bike build, it may be a good idea to build a frame around the battery box. Kinda like Ducati incorporate's it's engine as part of their frames.
@williamickes3143
@williamickes3143 Жыл бұрын
shut up !
@michaelblacktree
@michaelblacktree 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure the electric motor makes more torque than the gas engine. Looks like a lot of fun! EDIT: Does the electric motor have any provisions for liquid cooling? And does the motorbike engine have an oil pump? You see where I'm going with this...
@sethmurphy531
@sethmurphy531 Жыл бұрын
The motor has some fins for air cooling although that’s probably not enough, and those engines have an oil pump to lubricate the top end, and the bottom end is a splash sump. Meaning the transmission and crank always sit in oil. I’d be curious to how much power loss there is with it now just uselessly spinning off the crank. And with the electric swap it he for sure had to plug the oil passages so I’m sure there’s a little bit of resistance
@domenicozagari2443
@domenicozagari2443 2 жыл бұрын
You can make the drill bits harder by putting them in a small furnace at 4000 degrees for half an hour. You can put some gas in the bike oil to reduce the viscosity.You can ad aluminum fins to cool down the electric motor.
@Stefan_38
@Stefan_38 2 жыл бұрын
You took away the best thing from dirtbikes the SOUND that roar xD
@bsmith2340
@bsmith2340 4 ай бұрын
O god ur like the people that think records sound better then digital music😂
@sakepaardekooper223
@sakepaardekooper223 2 жыл бұрын
Next time for your own safety please fill that gas tank with water once. Then empty it and start grinding or whatever. Even the way you did could potentially be very dangerous!!! Keep up the good stuff great builds!
@thedude7726
@thedude7726 2 жыл бұрын
It'll be fine I watched a guy try to shop vac out a rusty tank and exploded the shopvac and lit the garage on fire. He still has permenate hearing damage from this
@fellipec
@fellipec 2 жыл бұрын
I came here to comment this. Whenever you need to work in a fuel container, first fill it with water, then empty.
@sakepaardekooper223
@sakepaardekooper223 2 жыл бұрын
@@fellipec 👌👌👌
@ncphenom2309
@ncphenom2309 2 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same thing.
@scottwright388
@scottwright388 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking...I'm surprised he doesn't have a fire extinguisher on every one of his builds, after he watched one of his bikes burn down on the street. (one of his earlier videos)
@mofotimm3r
@mofotimm3r 2 жыл бұрын
For the long cruises and to save on the clutch you could just start out in say 5th gear or fourth gear so you don't have to shift so much. It has all the torque that it needs right away from the get-go
@studdgage
@studdgage 2 жыл бұрын
If he gives it to much throttle at the start in 4th or 5th it will smoke the clutch faster.
@billymanilli
@billymanilli 2 жыл бұрын
@@studdgage 100% truth
@billymanilli
@billymanilli 2 жыл бұрын
I think the best case would be to just get rid of the clutch all-together. I can't see any good reason to even have it in there, tbh...
@cooperlessard1723
@cooperlessard1723 Жыл бұрын
@@billymanilli cut the power from the transmission
@georgecharles735
@georgecharles735 Жыл бұрын
Love the make shift cylinder head. Genius!
@Cowboys-bm4wh
@Cowboys-bm4wh 8 ай бұрын
Nice job. I would love to try something like this. Thanks for posting.👍
@joshm8661
@joshm8661 2 жыл бұрын
Have you had any problems out of those aftermarket dewalt batteries? I've been thinking about getting a couple of them but haven't seen anyone use them besides project farm. That bike is pretty awesome.
@deathraider8228
@deathraider8228 2 жыл бұрын
Ive used some of the generic DeWalt batteries and they don't pack the exact same juice but they hold up pretty well. The only difference is how long the batteries last long term.
@joshm8661
@joshm8661 2 жыл бұрын
@@deathraider8228 cool deal thanks bud I appreciate it
@Lucas12v
@Lucas12v 2 жыл бұрын
This thing is turning out really well. One small knitpick though. Using a larger front sprocket would have been a better than a small rear because it would have helped chain and sprocket life instead of hurt. Also, the small rear sprocket is going to mean a lot more wear on the chain guides/sliders. Unless there was something preventing this of course.
@williamickes3143
@williamickes3143 Жыл бұрын
shut up !
@PJCCHI
@PJCCHI 9 ай бұрын
You are Right about wear but the his current gear ratio is limiting low speed power even in 1st gear and enlarging his motor sprocket would further worsen the gap between actual and efficient rpms
@serdarcorekcioglu
@serdarcorekcioglu Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. 👍In fact, if you had made the battery pack in the form of a saddlebag and in two parts, I think you could have placed it on that bar. So you wouldn't have to cut that frame bar. This method came to mind when I watched the video.👋
@denhamdaves
@denhamdaves 2 жыл бұрын
Chains are the best man. I would expected nothing less amazing job
@boryswwa
@boryswwa 11 ай бұрын
I love Your vids and admire Your "practical" approach. If I had a workshop to do all that stuff, it would have taken me ages to do anything, as I would try to blueprint everything first, create it in CAD, make sure that it works the first time, and that all is perfect. You just take practical approach and just go on with it :) I like that, even though I'm not sure if I would be able to follow the same approach. But damn.. wear helmet! :) And a tip - don't need to use clutch on motorcycle for anything else than stopping and starting. :) or maybe a wheele :) Gear changes are a lot smoother when done without a clutch. I'd love to have such electric dirt bike, although the sound of it is.. a bit painful :) mostly the chain noise is annoying. I wonder how it bears offroad. I'm hoping to achieve something similar but with a bicycle conversion. Obviously - minus the gearbox. Love Your channel and I envy you the workshop :)
@acurarl9929
@acurarl9929 2 жыл бұрын
The battery box itself should become the frame
@JohnsAwild1
@JohnsAwild1 2 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍👍I put an air hose blowing air in the empty gas tank when i have to cut or weld on them (dad taught me that trick)
@spacedmarine708
@spacedmarine708 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome but I was thinking that when you cut the frame just make the battery box part of the frame rather than the gusseting with the square bar on top and a structural battery box youd have been fine and had more access to the motor but otherwise damn fine job looks fun
@gareth6121
@gareth6121 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome builds m8, I've been following your channel for a fair while now & your machining and welding skills are damn amazing. Just bit concerning about the last few test drives out on the road, might wanna put a helmet on ;) only takes another road user not paying attention.
@treytoshaglover9507
@treytoshaglover9507 2 жыл бұрын
I came here for this very comment. You only have ONE head.
@AllisonCustoms
@AllisonCustoms 2 жыл бұрын
And glasses or googles - your eyes are important too!
@mikebryde3207
@mikebryde3207 2 жыл бұрын
@@AllisonCustoms hard to see when your going 30mph and a bug smacks u dead in the eye!
@SPaRkLeBuNnYs1
@SPaRkLeBuNnYs1 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I like your videos, so more helmets so I can watch them longer please.
@MoondyneJoe
@MoondyneJoe 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone ever come of a bike at speed? I have and have the scars to prove it! Thankfully I had a helmet on every time I got on a bike. (score so far at 62 broke my right leg 2 times on 2 separate accidents, total of 18 months in FULL LENGTH plaster casts and various gravel rash even though I had jeans on and leather jacket My nephew was killed on his Harley back in 2003, had his helmet on, a person came out of a side street and he swerved to miss and hit the island in the middle of the road, over the handlebars breaking his neck, destroying his right shoulder he died instantly. When I viewed him in his coffin I put my hand on his shoulder it moved like a bag of broken rocks Yeah over here in Australia we call Motorcycle riders Temporary Australians My best advice Chris is when you ride pretend you are invisible and then proceed to do EVERYTHING you can to be seen. Also think 3 steps ahead ALWAYS and always plot an escape root Please wear a helmet at least Chris when you are driving illegally on the road 🤔 or anytime (in your case, it gives you a place to mount your camera as well.) We only criticise because we care think of your family who have to carry on without you. It destroyed our family when Colin was KILLED Tony from Western Australia 🇦🇺
@Nvenus27
@Nvenus27 2 жыл бұрын
Couple of different ideas for you. You could have modified the gas tank in order to fit the battery into. Put the battery box under the tail section. Research a smaller zero gravity lithium battery with the same power output. Keep in mind I’m coming up with these ideas before watching the entire video. Best of luck. Love your content and look forward to many more.
@ThatKoukiZ31
@ThatKoukiZ31 2 жыл бұрын
lithium batteries almost have the same storage capacity per volume. the biggest difference is packaging. so a lightweight zero gravity battery might put out the same peak amps but if its smaller and lighter then it'll have less range.
@cven1212
@cven1212 8 ай бұрын
Should put a skid plate or something underneath the motor and bike. Weld off of the bar you made to compensate for where you cut the frame. Can help protect from rocks coming up etc.
@plupdeplup7349
@plupdeplup7349 Жыл бұрын
Finally 😀 someone who gets it!!! Well done 👍👍👍
@Ronin8451
@Ronin8451 2 жыл бұрын
The slipping is because that engine needs the oil pump to pump fresh oil through the clutch pack. You will continue to burn up clutches without it.
@bradensmith888
@bradensmith888 2 жыл бұрын
Does that engine have an oil pump? I didn't even think it had a filter
@Ronin8451
@Ronin8451 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradensmith888 yes, it's a copy of Honda's Z50 horizontal engine which has an oil pump and the filter is a brass screen replaced or cleaned by removing the clutch side cover. It's located above the drain plug. The semi-auto clutch engines will not operate properly without oil pressure through the center of the crank. That's why the cover over the clutch pack has a gasket, so pressurized oil feeds the clutches to keep them wet and cool.
@bulletindiesel1548
@bulletindiesel1548 2 жыл бұрын
The bike looks great! Just remember it is not nessasary to use the clutch when you shift, just slightly release the throttle and shift
@Thomas-fo9zu
@Thomas-fo9zu Жыл бұрын
I think getting oil up onto that chain is a good thing! I'd stay with that. Nice little build.
@hikingandrcs1728
@hikingandrcs1728 2 жыл бұрын
The oil is being pulled up on the chain very cool build 👍!!
@tokag
@tokag Жыл бұрын
Awesome video series! I've wanted to mod my Yamaha XT like this, but wasn't really sure how to mate the eclectic motor to the clutch. it seems obvious now, but replacing the piston with it is genius. Since your clutch is still slipping (probably do to the torque of the electric motor throughout it's entire RPM range, you may consider a larger sprocket on the motor to reduce the torque at the crankshaft (which will also make the bike a bit faster).
@bob15479
@bob15479 8 ай бұрын
please don't destroy a yamaha xt like this lol
@DanielRolfe
@DanielRolfe 2 жыл бұрын
Do you ever worry about breathing in the grinding / abrasive dust ? Awesome channel , I love your builds btw, keep it up 👍
@abs9263
@abs9263 2 жыл бұрын
That was awesome bro. SHOUT OUT from the PHILIPPINES!
@EngineeredToDesign
@EngineeredToDesign 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great concept that could be adapted to just about anything like a new buggy build? Also a charger port in the tip of the old exhaust muffler would be pretty trick.
@xxtrengt8871
@xxtrengt8871 2 жыл бұрын
What you can do tackle both top speed and clutch slipping is putting a bigger gear on the motor, it will make the speed of the crankshaft closer to what it was with the gaz engine as well as lowering the torque. Love this setup. Can't wait for the next one. This thing is gonna be great on trails. One thing you should check is the efficiency/torque curve of this motor, you'll be able to optimize range.
@richardconner3591
@richardconner3591 Жыл бұрын
clutches in motorcycles needs the right oil that has addative in it so they dont slip very cool build
@Bertito_Tv
@Bertito_Tv 2 жыл бұрын
very good job, a genius at what he does, my respect and admiration
@wilmarreyes5962
@wilmarreyes5962 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic ! We move to electric generation convertion, We all benefits to a cleanest air & greenest Earth.. More power to your enguinity!!
@martinvaldovinos5271
@martinvaldovinos5271 2 жыл бұрын
If you put your bike lying down to the side, you don´t need to drain the oil. Cheers from Paraguay! Keep up the good work!!
@richardembry9792
@richardembry9792 2 жыл бұрын
You’re a madman and this is absolute gold!
@stephenfontaine3249
@stephenfontaine3249 2 жыл бұрын
That tube you have the camera on mounted on the Bars is a death wish in any kinda accident. Wanted to state that anyways that's a sic build keep them coming
@reygar
@reygar 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome build!! You can do away with the friction clutch all together by locking it up, (welding it??), some way. To be able to shift, all you would need is a temporary motor cut out button. A micro switch activated by your thumb or the same clutch lever, with a relay. Hit that button as you would squeeze a clutch and "POW"!!, there is your shift. Quicker, safer, more durable and no slipping at all!!
@jasondk5127
@jasondk5127 Жыл бұрын
Use 2 or 3 spiral pointed taps, also pick up a can of Tap Magic that makes a world of difference! 30 yr machinist at your service here, if you ever have a machining question don't hesitate to ask. 😉
@tonyrealx
@tonyrealx 9 ай бұрын
you look young, did your dad had you help with the cars when you were a kid, you are super knowledgeable for todays kids that can't even change a tire. great work buddy.
@stormrider8236
@stormrider8236 6 ай бұрын
Great video chap, some nice demonstrations of engineering skills, fun with welding and honest to the point admission of errors. Refreshing to watch, great with a few beers on a day too cold to go into the workshop :) Thanks for posting. Regards. Lin. UK.
@TheScaryName
@TheScaryName 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I really like these "feature length" episodes 😁
@innercityracer
@innercityracer 2 жыл бұрын
Should put a quick access into the chain cover so you can lube it easily. Maybe just a big bolt threaded in right above the chain. You can remove the bolt and put a few shots of chain lube in from time to time.
@colinhunter750
@colinhunter750 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant build, great video.
@aeonikus1
@aeonikus1 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Cool idea BTW. Oh, to educe the noise of the chain you could probably use special bitumen noise reducing/deadening cover, like they use in cars. You could use in inside or outside. For outside they have it with alu foil cover so it should be durable for outside use.
@Smightification
@Smightification 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the whole build totally enjoyed! However baller move replacing the ENTIRE wheel instead of just a new tire haha
@calypsowaters
@calypsowaters 2 жыл бұрын
Awsome build Chris, had this idea many many years ago so thanks for making my dream come to life! Im thinking you may be able to eliminate the clutch as torque multiplication is much much higher than any petrol engine can ever produce, im thinking like an engine stall circuit like formula one cars have which electrically stalls the engine at the rite rpm to change gears smoothly, its caled "rev matching " Keep up the great workmanship! Cant wait to watch your next video!
@crispy-k
@crispy-k 2 жыл бұрын
10/10 vid and build, this is exactly how i would have built it.
@bryandickerson5365
@bryandickerson5365 2 жыл бұрын
This is great - electric + shifting is the bomb!
@ThePr8head
@ThePr8head Жыл бұрын
Super cool!!! You have MAD SKILLS!!!
@Strange_Brew
@Strange_Brew Жыл бұрын
Kinda adding nostalgic feel to new technology . Great work. I thought of doing the same thing.
@Roboticdoughbull3k
@Roboticdoughbull3k Жыл бұрын
Gotta have the gears, I'd have to agree. Awesome job bro.
@bsmith2340
@bsmith2340 4 ай бұрын
Great job man love seeing people make different things
@Roboticdoughbull3k
@Roboticdoughbull3k Жыл бұрын
Always such a pleasure to stop back in here, its been a while. You had ...not a lot of subs couple years ago, I followed a lot of your kart builds etc. So after a good year here I am, been gone awhile so I glanced down at the sub count and bro... So well deserved my friend, you're a modern day mechanical mad scientist. Congratulations, since I'm messing around with stuff again, I imagine I'll be watching more often again. Thanks for the great content, GOD bless bro🇺🇸.
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