A Discussion with Ram Dass & Allen Ginsberg

In this talk from the 1980's, Ram Dass and Allen Ginsberg discuss Kerouac, polarization of the 60's, and breaking away from the norm.
0:00 - The Uninterestingness of Counterculture
2:38 - Alternative Culture in the 40s and 50s
7:12 - The Failures of the 60s
10:02 - European versus American Consciousness
16:37 - Changes in Consciousness from the 40s to the 70s
20:02 - Punk Rock Consciousness
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[@PecanPie1102]

I hope you have the complete conversation and up load it tomorrow

[@starrhrndz]

Tomorrow. Specifically. 😆😆

[@Goodvibes-gu8dv]

I hope he loads it up Friday. I like Fridays.

[@melhall7342]

I was just thinking a similar thing. There were a few different times when the conversation is edited in a curious manner. Would love to see the full interview

[@33rdStreet]

Did he?

[@CanadianRevolution27]

The conversation about television is absolutely delightful

[@babkeebabkus8177]

how by watching tv shows kids got to play out so many roles before growing up to play a relatively more meaningful role in society? I found that interesting...really the whole human species is full of sh!t...we are all bullsh!tters...all of us are wanna bes in some way...we like to copy...we like to pretend...we can fake things easily...lying is part of our nature and a lot of us just lie for the fck of it..just to change things up and play a different role..I think if someone rated the most prominent features of a human being to lie would be right up there in the top 5 along with stuff like wanting attention...wanting sex...getting angry...being greedy...getting bored and so on

[@dianemurphy1403]

Yes, thank you for sharing! I too, hope you have the complete conversation to upload soon!

[@laurakirk3546]

An absolutely extraordinary conversation - I hope the full one is uploaded!

[@Linkopotamus]

Thank you for sharing this

[@maureenharrison6170]

Thank you! More please. So refreshing to hear these bright lights. The deep love

[@Ankursharma-fm8ti]

Ram ram 🙏🌹🙏🌹

[@MG-ge5xq]

What a great conversation! I live in Europe! Greetings to all my friends out there!

[@BabaRamDassChannel]

Admin here (now) - LEGENDS!!

[@jazminkathrin]

a wonderful piece of conversation, thank you for uploading it.

[@nogaei1]

Priceless

[@yudimeltzer123]

This is gold

[@yudimeltzer123]

While this is super fascinating, it feels like Allen just talks and talks and ram das just listens and listens. It's kinda funny. I wish ram das got more talking in because there isn't so much content of him hanging out with people in non speech contexts.

[@fredklein3829]

Of Jewish Buddhists it has been said that they REJECT material possessions, but they *keep* the receipts.

[@dreamlessmusic3167]

thank you

[@Harshtruthwomen]

Hare Krsna!

[@antoinettecurran7683]

🤭 giggles!!

[@LiINammmm]

18:00

[@samsaraa2001]

I had no idea ram das was gay. RAM RAM 🙏

[@jacobcontreras458]

Bisexual

[@8176morgan]

@@jacobcontreras458 So too apparently was Kerouac, as AG mentions at 4:15. 😯

[@andybaldman]

All these guys were banging each other.

[@ellenlansburgh8261]

lol name droppijng gurus!!!! how funderful! about to listen

[@inthemomenttomoment]

Consciousness is poetical. Ralph Waldo🌎Emerson said, 'If God is anything, G👁️D is a Poet!" This is from where 👣WE=mc2 get🎯or Will get, the Cosmic🌌Giggles😂🤣😅. WE=mc2 all are living in a Universal P'ohm.

[@yudimeltzer123]

Poets will say God is a poet, scientists will say God is a genius, musicians will say, it's a song.

[@coryc.9709]

Punks are nice people trying to act mean hippies are mean people trying to act nice.

[@andybaldman]

I’m 15 and that’s deep.

[@tonisylviamallette1601]

So many undercurrents

[@richardbelisle4807]

To much thought…

[@gabemoore3189]

It concerns me that ram dass had such lengthy ties to a Nambla member and supporters. I just can't support anyone supporting pedophilia

[@obdeisibcirrus993]

I know right it’s disturbing

[@gabemoore3189]

@Obdeisib Cirrus certainly is friend. I feel like a lot of this spiritual community likes to turn a blind eye to a lot of this sort of thing as if the movement is perfect. It's far from it, and I feel we should be realistic about it. If I was part of running this channel, I certainly wouldn't be uploading conversations, including him. I have no desire to hear insight from someone with such a warped sense of reality. Allen defended his right to be sexual with young boys, an ultimately sick and selfish act

[@obdeisibcirrus993]

@@gabemoore3189 yeah it truly bums be out big time to see Ram Dass with him. I hope Ram Dass didn’t support that shit

[@gabemoore3189]

@@obdeisibcirrus993 same here, knowing him for so long I can't see how he wouldn't have been aware of it

[@andybaldman]

All these guys were deviants. This is how they dealt with it. It’s ok when you’re famous.

[@joleaneshmoleane8358]

Wasn’t Ginsberg a kid diddler?

[@Goodvibes-gu8dv]

Idk but your framing diminishes the reality and impact of traumatic abuse

[@FreeAssange556]

He was involved with NAMBLA North American Man-Boy Love Association. He was most likely a paedophile.

[@jasonmurray6055]

this is silly to watch

[@danobrien9925]

Simply don't watch it, why spend time moaning about it in comments....

[@karlricardo4088]

I enjoy being silly on occasion.

[@crono3339]

I'm reading all these silly comments and it's silly of me to reply. Love y'all!