A DIY Mill-Turn

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9Volt Projects

4 ай бұрын

This is the presentation of my self build Mill-Turn. The Machine was built in the kitchen of my apartment..
00:00 Intro
01:19 SpecSheet
01:46 Base Construction
02:47 Portal Construstion
03:31 Door Construction
04:24 Main Spindle
05:36 Roughing Steel Demo
07:07 Tapping
07:34 HSK-Toolchange
08:07 Turning Tools
09:12 Turning Setup
10:05 Turning Demo
11:17 My Jaw Chucks
11:40 Turning Devices
12:53 Controlling the Machine
20:02 Electrical Cabinet
20:45 Controller Unit
21:52 Outro

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@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Of course, you can only give a very superficial introduction to a machine like this in such a short video. So if you would like to know anything else, or just need some information, please let me know.
@JohnWilliams-qk4ik
@JohnWilliams-qk4ik 4 ай бұрын
Have you measured the roundness deviation you can achieve when milling a circle? I would generally be interested in the precision and accuracy your machine is able to achieve! :)
@Basement_CNC
@Basement_CNC 4 ай бұрын
hey awesome machine, and quite a bit better desinged than my 5-ax mill......but id like to know how much you spent ? id guess somewhere in the 8-12k range
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
@@Basement_CNC Thank you :) I honestly don't know what I spent on all the parts and raw material. 8K maybe, but probably a little less...
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
@@JohnWilliams-qk4ik Unfortunately, my linear ball screws are not preloaded and are of simple quality (T7). The result here would certainly only be moderately good..
@Basement_CNC
@Basement_CNC 4 ай бұрын
​@@9voltprojects thats honestly less than expected 😮 i also spenk 4.5k on my mill, and the quality of most parts is "aliexpress "😂 cant afford more at 19
@invisibledave441
@invisibledave441 24 күн бұрын
Sir, the artistry across all disciplines of design, build and control is astounding. You have made the machine that everybody wants but only you have! Robust, capable, compact, simple, not to mention absolutely beautiful. I would love to see an in-depth series on the construction of this machine, but dont give too much away! you should be kitting and selling this thing!
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 24 күн бұрын
I thank you very much 🙂
@eriii23
@eriii23 4 ай бұрын
Please make a video of how you build the spindles :) I am sure everybody wants to see the process!!! Thanks
@maq-Yantek
@maq-Yantek 4 ай бұрын
ne uno a la idea , seria genial ver el proceso
@fuckingpippaman
@fuckingpippaman 4 ай бұрын
yeah many videos about cnc ways, but i've never seen one about a self made spindle.
@vpcred3706
@vpcred3706 4 ай бұрын
Yes!! The HSK spindle is definitely the most interesting part of the machine.
@keronGR
@keronGR 2 ай бұрын
@9voltprojects EVERYONE demands knowledge for Spindle!!!!! YESSS!!! Please, give us knowledge!!!
@pablomoreno7777
@pablomoreno7777 Ай бұрын
Yeah, I want to know how the Aux spindle to turning is made. Thanks!
@ryebis
@ryebis 4 ай бұрын
This is very well done, better than many professionally built small machines.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
What a nice compliment :-) Thank you very much!
@feelingofdestruction9499
@feelingofdestruction9499 4 ай бұрын
Wow 😮 Ich arbeite bei einem großen Hersteller der Mill-Turn Maschinen herstellt. Dort im Außendienst tätig und finde die Erklärungen und was Du da gebaut hast echt klasse 👍🏼 Weiter so!
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Ich dank Dir :-)
@paradoxx_4221
@paradoxx_4221 2 ай бұрын
Die Maschine ist unglaublich beeindruckend. Ich hätte ja erwartet, dass du gekaufte Controller verbaut hast, aber als ich gehört hab, dass du auch den selber gebaut hast (inklusive Firmware!!!), war ich sprachlos. Das ganze Projekt ist einfach ein Meisterwerk. Das System, welches Drehmeißel und die Frässpindel auf der gleichen Führung kombiniert, ist der Hammer.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 2 ай бұрын
Vielen Dank, freut mich das Dir meine Konstruktion gefällt :) Da ich keinen weiteren Platz für eine Drehmaschine hatte, musste ich halt erfinderisch sein. Elektronik mache ich quasi seit ich laufen kann, deshalb auch der Eigenbau des Controllers.
@wizrom3046
@wizrom3046 4 ай бұрын
Very impressive! I always said the electronics guys make the best mechanical engineers... 😎👍
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
:) :) :)
@ahmedradwan1024
@ahmedradwan1024 4 ай бұрын
my jaws dropped to the other side of the earth when I knew the spindle is self made, I really hope to see how did you do this amazing achievement
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Thanks ;-) Unfortunately, I don't have any video footage of the spindles being built. I'll see if I can find some pictures, then I could try to make a "short" out of it.
@ahmedradwan1024
@ahmedradwan1024 4 ай бұрын
@@9voltprojects that would be pretty cool, i'll be waiting for the notification
@imqqmi
@imqqmi 2 ай бұрын
If you said you're a toolmaker you could've fooled me :) Very impressive build and design! And wrote your own firmware for it too! Truly a one of a kind machine.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 2 ай бұрын
..just a hobbyist with skilled hands :) Thank you!
@allengeringer574
@allengeringer574 4 ай бұрын
Incredible! I've been scouring youtube looking for home made mill turns or swiss type lathes. This is pretty much identical to what I want to build. Strong work.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! I hope I was able to give you a few ideas along the way. :-)
@slakjawnotsayin5451
@slakjawnotsayin5451 17 күн бұрын
I have to say, this is my absolute favorite DIY Mill and Lathe machine I have so far seen online after years of looking for and watching these types of videos! Absolutely incredible work man!!! Thank you for going over all of this in such great detail. It unfortunately looks like it would be incredibly expensive to build, and is something I can only dream about, but gives me hope and a will to live, so that I can one day possess something as incredibly awesome as this machine! LOL
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 15 күн бұрын
I am very pleased that you like my video and my machine. Thank you very much for the really nice comment! You will make it too 🙂
@FloweringElbow
@FloweringElbow 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing, the effort you put into this is inspirational. I love the additional slide-on attachments for turning! Something I might have to look into making :) Peace.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 3 күн бұрын
Hey, thanks a lot! I'm glad you like my additional slide-on attachments. Let me know when yours are ready for chipping 🙂
@Netsroht72
@Netsroht72 4 ай бұрын
This machine is really a Masterpiece. I hope you can make more Vids about it. Especially i am interested in how you made the two Spindles with the Servo Motors, and the hight adjustment of the Linear-Rails.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
It's on my to-do list.. Many thanks :)
@Topsun-DS
@Topsun-DS Ай бұрын
Your creativity never ceases to amaze me.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects Ай бұрын
Oh, thank you 🙂
@kensimolo860
@kensimolo860 2 ай бұрын
Extremely impressive!!! It is amazing how much thought you put into what you did. And the aesthetics of your build are also quite amazing. Very functional and beautiful at the same time. The pride you put into your work is quite obvious.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the kind words :-)
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 4 ай бұрын
Outstanding work, on both the video and the machine,
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much :-)
@GBWM_CNC
@GBWM_CNC 4 ай бұрын
That machine is magnificent! Really spectacular! I'd love to build something similar in the future. Good job and thanks for sharing! :)
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much :)
@homemadetools
@homemadetools 4 ай бұрын
Excellent build! We shared this video on our homemade tool forum last week 😎
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, I am very honored :-)
@oliviervillemin3674
@oliviervillemin3674 4 ай бұрын
Bonjour, bravo pour votre machine, une véritable bête !
@stefandebruijn3167
@stefandebruijn3167 4 ай бұрын
That's a nice build. I'm actually happy to see that more people use a similar trick as I do for lathing... I basically just mount it right next to the spindle as well. I've had trouble with stainless steel and don't have a good solution for boring yet, but other than that it seems to work quite well. I'd add a proper flood coolant personally. My experience with milling steel and alu is that you can't throw enough fluid on it (and I do a lot of alu). Not only will that wash away the splinters, but it will also help significantly with the life of your tools. Like me, you put the electronics below the cnc - and like me you're probably going to regret that eventually if you flood the thing. I threw the whole cnc in a steel cabinet. There's acoustic foam on the market that does wonders for the neighborhood. Plus, if you do it right, the cabinet can be used to add some more rigidity to the whole thing. But that's just details; great job! I was wondering about the spindle here... did you design and lathe the HSK spindle by yourself or buy an off the shelves HSK adapter? From the single screw it might seem viable to use a stepper to torque it down? I dunno, it's hard to see without a design, but I'd like to see more about that. I also like how you used set screws solution for the rails. I'm not sure if it's better than lapping the rails upside down in a vise, but it seems pretty viable. Did you make all of these yourself?
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects Ай бұрын
Thank you..
@fabianbrock
@fabianbrock 4 ай бұрын
Very nice machine, well done. Interesting design with moving the complete portal as Z axis. I don't see this often in diy machines.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Thank you :-) I've never really understood why so many hobby builders usually build it the other way around. Ok, there is more mass to move, but it is much stiffer and easier to build
@fabianbrock
@fabianbrock 4 ай бұрын
@@9voltprojects True, depends a little bit on the aspect ratio of the machine and if it is a traveling gantry or bed but for your machine it looks very fitting.
@GerhardGulewicz
@GerhardGulewicz 26 күн бұрын
Diese CNC ist so die BESTE welche ich bisher auf KZbin gefunden habe!!!!!!! Wenn es dafür eine Bauanleitung geben würde…….. :-). 🙏 Das ist kein HOBBY - das ist 100% Engineering 👍 Ich habe den Kanal sofort abonniert :-)
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 24 күн бұрын
Danke, danke.. Ja, da stecken einige Stunden intensivster Gehirnzermarterung drinnen 😉 CAD-Dateien gibt's leider nicht.
@AP-Engineer
@AP-Engineer Ай бұрын
This is an amazing machine! I'm excited to see more of your work!
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 29 күн бұрын
Many thanks for your interest 🙂
@ethanperrin7472
@ethanperrin7472 4 ай бұрын
Wow, great job all around on the machine and the video! The extra carriages you slide onto the X rails for turbing work is a clever solution. I would love to see a video on the mill spindle design.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much. I may build a new spindle at the end of the year. Of course I will make a video of it ;-)
@carlhitchon1009
@carlhitchon1009 Ай бұрын
Absolutely gorgeous work.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects Ай бұрын
Thank you a lot.
@jonludwig8233
@jonludwig8233 4 ай бұрын
Great work, thanks for sharing!
@learnitalready
@learnitalready 27 күн бұрын
Wow! Amazing job.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 24 күн бұрын
Thank you.
@mlefe09
@mlefe09 Ай бұрын
This was really interesting and the turning setup is brilliant!!
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects Ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it 🙂
@johnlambo135
@johnlambo135 4 ай бұрын
Hallo, Watch all your films. Love it and hope to see more from you ... Very clever what you have made . Profi made ....
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@kreglamirand2637
@kreglamirand2637 4 ай бұрын
GBWM sent me. Awesome content man, very nice build.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Thank you a lot :-)
@txm100
@txm100 Ай бұрын
Alter Schwede was für ein geiles Teil!
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects Ай бұрын
Vielen Dank! 😉
@peachmunich
@peachmunich 4 ай бұрын
Nice work! Really a good mechanical design! 👍
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
@joels7605
@joels7605 4 ай бұрын
That's incredibly impressive.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much :-)
@davidchavez81
@davidchavez81 4 ай бұрын
Amazing dude, way to go!
@grandmastersreaction1267
@grandmastersreaction1267 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely amazing. I hope one day you can put up the cad, wiring and programming diagram up for sale!
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
That would be too much stress for me to do business with. I only do it for the joy of doing it :) Thank you very much..
@chernogorsky
@chernogorsky Ай бұрын
same here, great design for a compact mill. would be great if you can share / sale cad, no matter the state ) WBR
@wald3mar
@wald3mar 15 күн бұрын
Lovely work.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 9 күн бұрын
Thank you :)
@lawmate
@lawmate Ай бұрын
Amazing machine! So much work in it. I'm not sure how you program the turning but you might want a tool holder interface that constrains in 3 dimensions so you can maintain tool offsets. If you made a capto holder and used capto lathe tools, you wouldn't need to reset the z offset with each tool change.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects Ай бұрын
Yes, you are right. But setting up a new tool is no big deal. Before I would build something like that, I have other little things on my wish list 😉
@lawmate
@lawmate Ай бұрын
@9voltprojects Fair enough. I do quite a bit of turning on my mill. I have a stick tool block and have found this a hurdle so am mid way through building a capto 4 based block that should make tool changes a lot quicker. The list is always too long!
@pablomoreno7777
@pablomoreno7777 Ай бұрын
A video about turning spindle construction please!. Impresive job! good work :)
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects Ай бұрын
..is planned 😉
@edkcustoms
@edkcustoms Ай бұрын
Wow! just wow! What a realy cool and nice machine! +1 sub for sure 😎👍
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects Ай бұрын
Thank you a lot 😏
@BharatKambalur
@BharatKambalur 4 ай бұрын
A well executed project! Very impressive that you created all custom electronics (with an FPGA) and wrote all the embedded software. One suggestion regarding terminology is that 'Borders' could probably be replaced 'Boundaries', if you ever plan to open source or share your firmware. But of course, whatever conveys the information works for a personal project 😂
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
I had been looking for the right term while programming. I had thought about fences and borders, but both felt wrong somehow. Yep, boundaries ;-) A bit too long for my display, but let's see... Thank you very much!
@BharatKambalur
@BharatKambalur 4 ай бұрын
@@9voltprojects Even 'Bounds' & 'Left /Right Bound' might suffice ;-)
@innominatum9906
@innominatum9906 2 ай бұрын
This is amazing What a beautiful machine you've made! Im jealous of your knowledge and persistence in not only trying but also completing a project like this.... in your kitchen!
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 2 ай бұрын
I would never want to admit that I didn't make it. So I'm always condemned to success ;-) Thank you a lot.
@raulgoncalves3075
@raulgoncalves3075 4 ай бұрын
Great job!! Are you planning to open source the project or sell the CAD files and BOM for DIY?
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Thank you.. I think anyone with good metalworking skills doesn't need a construction plan or CAD files from me. I've also just copied most of the things from the big boys in the business. Less experienced hobbyists I would advise to start with a smaller project.
@rudycandu1633
@rudycandu1633 4 ай бұрын
What do you feel is the advantage, or disadvantages, of having the Z axis rails on the support pillars (also supporting the X axis)? Your Z stepper will have to do more work, the X steppers less, compared to a typical CNC router. At first I thought this was a CNC router but when looking at the details I said, no this is a mill. A very interesting design.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
In my view, the advantages of this design outweigh the disadvantages. The decisive reason for me is the higher rigidity due to the better lever ratios. The lower the working height, the stiffer the working conditions. Of course, the Z-Stepper has to move the entire weight (50 kg). But this is also an advantage because the z-axis is always preloaded. Only the dynnamics is affected by this, of course.
@heinzhaupthaar5590
@heinzhaupthaar5590 4 ай бұрын
​@@9voltprojects What's your rapid- and acceleration settings if I may ask?
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
The rapid speed is 2m/min! Unfortunately, I don't know the actual acceleration values. The acceleration ramps are generated in the FPGA by up/down counters preloaded with values. These values then determine the steepness of the acceleration ramps. I then tested different steep ramps in experiments, so that step losses are excluded. But I have never calculated the resulting acceleration values. Thank you for your question! :)
@tr1ph0p
@tr1ph0p 3 сағат бұрын
wish I had friends like you haha
@vonsyp
@vonsyp 4 ай бұрын
Vraiment impressionant tres beau boulot felicitation🙏👌
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
merci beaucoup
@shiznak8098
@shiznak8098 4 ай бұрын
Very clean build. Nice one
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Thank You.
@DánielSomogyi-o3e
@DánielSomogyi-o3e Ай бұрын
Congratulations on your machine and the effort you’ve put into it. I am currently beginning to design my own machine, primarily for milling aluminum and plastics. I am interested to know what type of ball screw you used in the construction. Is the lead 5 mm or 10 mm? What is the precision class-C3, C5, or C7? Did you use higher-quality Chinese components, or a more well-known brand? Also, what torque do the stepper motors have? Lastly, what repeatability, precision can you achieve with it? Thank you in advance for your response! Best regards, Daniel
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects Ай бұрын
The ball screws I use are from Isel. They are manufactured in Germany, but are of low-cost quality. They are rolled and in tolerance class C7. The pitch is 4mm for X and Y and 5mm for Z. In terms of accuracy, they are not bad at all. Unfortunately, they are not preloaded, which is why I would like to replace them one day. I haven't installed any Chinese parts except the guide rail for my sliding door 😉 The stepper have a torque of 2NM. Good luck with your construction..
@nicholascooling6308
@nicholascooling6308 Ай бұрын
Very cool you used hsk on the milling spindle.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects Ай бұрын
I love it. It makes every tool change a pleasure.
@joseantoniogomez2374
@joseantoniogomez2374 4 ай бұрын
Hola, gran proyecto! ejecución impecable. Felicitaciones
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Muchas Gracias
@Iamtherodlight1453.
@Iamtherodlight1453. 2 ай бұрын
So amazing would you share the 3d model. I’m working on a tools and the parts that you are using would help a lot. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and taking the time to do this video. Absolutely amazing.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your interest. Sorry, I do not share my Cad models
@KayRoepke
@KayRoepke 4 ай бұрын
Sehr beeindruckend Chris!
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Vielen lieben Dank!
@bernhard_derProtoTyp
@bernhard_derProtoTyp 4 ай бұрын
wow! super impressive machine! thanks for sharing & weiter so! :)
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Danke :)
@jacekf
@jacekf 2 ай бұрын
AMAZING!
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Algone_11
@Algone_11 4 күн бұрын
very nice achievement
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 3 күн бұрын
Thank you.
@brazilianstraddle6943
@brazilianstraddle6943 4 ай бұрын
Have you considered selling kits for this? I'd love to buy the frame-set and spindle myself. Fantastic work! Subscribed
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Sorry, I don't offer kits. I only do it as a hobby. Thank you very much!
@brazilianstraddle6943
@brazilianstraddle6943 4 ай бұрын
Understood. Have you considered sharing your designs either commercially or under a creative commons license or alternative open source license? I believe your machine would be liked by many others who might improve upon your design and share those improvements as well.
@MP-mu1kw
@MP-mu1kw 25 күн бұрын
Thank you so much or sharing this video. I must say what you have created and built is a masterpiece Mill-Turn machine (one of a kind) in the DIY hobby space. I also have a background in Electronics and like you I am able to understand Mechnical pricipals relatively easily and been keen to build my own machine and learning how to use Fusion 360 for producing the CAD design. But having no access to a reasonably rigid cnc, to mill the parts. I see you showed pics of your first cnc built using aluminium extrusions, and I would like to know what was the workarea of that machine and did it mill all the aluminium parts that went into building this awesome piece of engineering? I would like to build a basic machine and did some research and found there are various different types of profiles offered by Motedis such as I-Type slot 5,6,8 and B-Type 6,8,10. What type of profiles would you recommend?
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 24 күн бұрын
Thank you very much! To be honest, I can't remember the exact working area of my first machine. I hadn't made a 3D model. I think the working area was approx. 330x230mm. I can't really recommend extruded aluminum profiles. At first glance, a construction with them looks temptingly simple. These profiles are not dimensionally accurate and you will encounter problems when aligning the axles. Another problem is that the parts cannot be joined together with sufficient rigidity. It may be that some people see it differently. But that is my experience. If you still want to use them, then take the ones with the thickest wall thickness and the largest cross-section. Good luck and have fun building!
@MP-mu1kw
@MP-mu1kw 21 күн бұрын
@@9voltprojects I agree with everything you have mentioned and will keep in mind about choosing a profile that has the thickest possible wall thickness and the largest cross-section area. Will keep you in the loop. If I have any question along the my cnc journey then if you don't mind I will be in touch again. :)
@vpcred3706
@vpcred3706 4 ай бұрын
Amazing! May I know which Gühring part you used for the HSK-C clamping? Also what kind of bearings did you use for the spindle?
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
The spindle bearings are from FAG. I still have to look up all the part numbers. I'll do that together in a future video about building another spindle.
@l3of589
@l3of589 25 күн бұрын
Beautiful machine, can you share the spindle servo model and the pulley/belt size. Thanks 🙏🏽
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 24 күн бұрын
I have specified the servo model in the “Specification” chapter 😉 The belt is a HTD. More information will be available soon in a following video.
@天蝎座-e5n
@天蝎座-e5n 4 ай бұрын
Очень аккуратно сделанный станок!
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Большое спасибо.
@PaulG.369
@PaulG.369 2 ай бұрын
This is pretty cool! Love the jog control panel. Does the lathe spindle perform angular indexing as well?
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm not sure what exactly is meant by 'angle indexing'. The servo motor has a 17bit encoder and can rotate the spindle to any position (angular steps) of 360°/131072. The servo driver also provides an index signal every 360°, which I use to measure the spindle speed with my controller(FPGA).
@PaulG.369
@PaulG.369 2 ай бұрын
@@9voltprojects Meaning, can the lathe rotate in degrees and lock in position, for the mill to come in and machine a flat surface and then on that flat surface? For example, say I want machine a hex shape at the end of a rod, and then engrave one of the faces, then rotate, and drill thru another face. In other words, instead of RPM motion, I get angular rotation with locking in positionn.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 2 ай бұрын
@@PaulG.369 The answer is yes and no ;-) It is possible to engrave the radius of a round workpiece, which I have already done. But I can't engrave a flat surface in this way. That would require the turning spindle to be mounted on the machine table or the gantry to be movable in the Y direction (milling view), which is not the case. Yes, I can drill small holes in a clamped workpiece at any angle. However, this is only possible to a very limited extent because the spindle shaft is driven by a belt and is therefore not absolutely torsionally rigid. A worm gear would be necessary for this. I prefer to do such work on the rotary table.
@yiyozarco
@yiyozarco 17 күн бұрын
amazing
@ErwinCNC
@ErwinCNC 4 ай бұрын
A great Machine! Thanks for sharing with us I'm interested in more Details about the Spindle design especially bearings, Servodrive and tool change . Is there any sensor to measure your turning tools or is it manual measure offset like turning by hand ? How do you set the height offset for the turning tool? Have you thought about using a multi fix tool change system for quick change the turning tools? Thanks 👍 👍 👍
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I do not use a sensor for tool measurement when turning. I do it like this: After the first machining pass, I zero the displayed position of the Z-axis. Then I measure the diameter of the workpiece with the micrometer. I then enter the radius as the Z position in my control unit. I can work very precisely this way. Additional measuring sensors would tend to interfere with my workflow. I may be a bit old school in this respect, but I like it that way.
@ErwinCNC
@ErwinCNC 4 ай бұрын
Thanks I have some more questions 😄 How do you manufacturing all the parts? With your old machine or on an industrial CNC ? How much time and money did you spend?
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, I do not have access to industrial machines. All parts were made on the machine in the intro. Later I made or optimized some parts on my current machine.
@maq-Yantek
@maq-Yantek 4 ай бұрын
no tienes instagram ,estaría genial ver tus ideas mas cotidianamente , me salio de pura casualidad tu canal y desde hoy me uno a tus seguidores
@DemButterSeinBoii
@DemButterSeinBoii Ай бұрын
Fliegt der Spahn in lila-blau, stimmt der Vorschub haargenau :).
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects Ай бұрын
😏
@UPR91
@UPR91 4 ай бұрын
Awesome realisation. I'm surprise you can have that kind of precision with only aluminium frame without vibration. I just wandering what is the need to add additional slider for turning instead of having tool directly attached to the side of the milling spindle. I'm sure there is a reason but I'm only an electronics engineer who love to go outside its confort zone : ). I was not aware also that you can rigid taping with mach 3 contrôler. Anyway the result is quite amazing
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, I do tapping with my own self build controller ;-)
@UPR91
@UPR91 3 ай бұрын
​@@9voltprojects I've seen that and what a side project !! I'm an electronics engineer, and I know what It's like to design stuff that works. (I don't like those FPGA they don't open their minds to debugging easily) I don't know why I fell in love with CNC and metal work, getting outside my comfort zone. I'm in the process of building my second CNC. The first one was crappy little thing more like of a router. I don't want to spend too much time on controller so centroid acornsix will be the way. I was in gantry design with some epoxy granite but after seing your design, I will go your way. What I love is that the whole Y-axis is moving. It's easily understandable that it will be far more stiff when you machine low-height parts compared to those long plate that overhang. One thing that I don't understand. The Z ballscrew attachment...Where is that low end fixing block ? It looks like their is no and that's a really floating side. The only drawback is the protection of the X rails and ballscrew that will be a little more tricky Design spindle is also very nice; maybe this is the part that impressed me the most. It solve one of my issues. Having a strong tool changer without using compressed air (I don't need an ATC). But as I'm not confident enough to try to build a part like that, I'll buy a small and silent compressor, and a Jianken 5.5kw permanent magnet rotor with 3.5Nm with BT30.. I've also see you mixed aluminium and steel to keep it reasonably not too heavy. Is there some point of attention I need to take into account about different thermal expansion between steel and aluminium (for Z lineay rail fixing) or we don't really care ?
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 3 ай бұрын
@@UPR91 Correct, you should think/care about all the physical relationships when building a machine, including the temperature range and the behavior when using different materials. The higher your requirements in terms of accuracy, the greater the effort. In other words, the greater the temperature fluctuations (day/night) at the installation site, the greater the deviations. Ball screw spindles do not necessarily have to have a floating bearing. It depends on their length.
@UPR91
@UPR91 3 ай бұрын
​@@9voltprojects Thx for the answers. I still have a question as I move forward in the design. How did you square the vertical assembly to the base ? I see some pin to perform an accurate angular the link. Does it fit 90° by precision machining or you squared it and drill after ? Dit you glue the surface with some kind of epoxy before assembly making the whole stuff more rigid but loosing the possibility to further adjustment of dissassembly ?
@Guds777
@Guds777 Ай бұрын
Impressive...
@Darren053
@Darren053 4 ай бұрын
Wow great job! Did you make your spindle by your self?
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Thank you and yes, both were built on my machine in the video
@Darren053
@Darren053 4 ай бұрын
​@@9voltprojects Did you have a grinding process? What is the runout, and what rpm are they capable of? I really appreciate what you have done!
@boessi
@boessi 2 ай бұрын
Hallo Chris, klasse Video und super Maschine mit so viel nützlichem Zubehör! Ich habe auch eine CNC-Maschine gebaut und würde bei einer zweiten auch einiges anders machen, z.B. eine vierte Achse einplanen. Ich möchte eine kleine CNC-Drehmaschine bauen und dafür würde mir als Spindel so etwas wie deine 4. Achse vollkommen ausreichen. Leider kann ich mit meiner CNC-Fräse so ein Spindelgehäuse nicht aus einem Block herstellen. Evtl. könnte ich das Gehäuse aus mehreren z.B. 30mm Alu-Platten fertigen. Habe ich das richtig verstanden, dass Du die Spindel selbst gebaut hast? Wie hast Du die gefertigt? Dafür braucht man doch eine präzise Drehmaschine damit die Passungen für die Lager stimmen. Vielleicht hast Du ja Lust zu deiner 4. Achse ein Video zu erstellen!? Ich denke, dass würde viel Hobbyfräsenbauer interessieren. VG Anton
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 2 ай бұрын
Hallo Anton, ich werde zukünftig einige Videos über den Bau von Spindeln veröffentlichen. Das wird allerdings noch etwas dauern. Einige Deiner Fragen werden dann in den Videos beantwortet. Vielen Dank für Dein Interesse und schau einfach von Zeit zu Zeit mal wieder vorbei!
@boessi
@boessi Ай бұрын
@@9voltprojects Hallo Chris kannst Du einen Link zur Spindelpatrone - also dem Stahlteil in deiner 4. Achse angeben? Das ist doch ein Kaufteil? VG Anton
@robertochalaga1129
@robertochalaga1129 3 ай бұрын
good evening and congratulations for your design work, your ideas are excellent, but what is the type of your spindle with the tool changing system ?
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! All spindles were designed and built by me. The HSK tool change interface is from Gühring.
@robertochalaga1129
@robertochalaga1129 3 ай бұрын
@@9voltprojects thanks you my friend
@thomasberger5110
@thomasberger5110 4 ай бұрын
Nice work
@hanktelevision2511
@hanktelevision2511 4 ай бұрын
looks good brotha
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
@Tecnimeca2023
@Tecnimeca2023 Ай бұрын
Hello, your machine is great, I really take off the hat I'm building a machine but with many limitations I don't have my own workshop to build but I love your machine can I ask some information about your machine...
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects Ай бұрын
Thank you 🙂 ..of course you can ask questions.
@weldchip
@weldchip 4 ай бұрын
I wonder if you can find some hsk holders that will hold turning tools, if you can lock the mill spindle you could use it for turning.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Yes, that would give me some extra space. But the spindle shaft would have to be able to be fixed absolutely rigidly at the spindle nose. I had no idea how to implement this without making the spindle even bigger and heavier.
@weldchip
@weldchip 4 ай бұрын
@@9voltprojects if it's not achievable electronically with the motor or a brake on the motor then maybe a mechanical pin or an electromagnetic brake/clamp mechanism that engages/clamps into/on the drive pulley of the spindle . There are some limitations to the belted drive rather than direct but a guy with your talents will be able to engineer around it.
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
@@weldchip Unfortunately, this is not possible with a brake alone. The resulting forces must be kept away from the spindle bearings. Unfortunately, this makes such spindles very large and heavy (DMG, Mazak etc.)
@陈海飞-s3o
@陈海飞-s3o Ай бұрын
非常牛逼,非常感谢您的介绍。
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects Ай бұрын
感谢您的关注 😉
@mikhaillikhashva56
@mikhaillikhashva56 4 ай бұрын
Could you release CAD and way you made adjustments for leveling and straightening everything for this masterpiece?!
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
You do not need a CAD file for the leveling plates/blocks. They consist of 40x30x10mm steel and an m8 leveling screw in each corner. There is a through hole in the middle of the plate for the rail screw. And that's it. The challenge is to get them all at exactly the same height. For this you need a reference, e.g. a granite ruler or something and a very good dial indicator. It took me a week to get it right, so be warned. The clamps to straighten the rails are very specific to my machine. I don't have a CAD file of them, I made them right out of my head. The rails of my X and Z axis I also straightened with other tools, but that would have been too much for the video. Just build something to bring the force to the point of highest deviation. I was surprised at how easy it is to straighten them.
@mikhaillikhashva56
@mikhaillikhashva56 4 ай бұрын
I noticed for X axis you did not have leveling plate, have you grounded base? Also with leveling plates you need to level everything together, as without central bolt and rail they won’t stay?
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
I used double-grinded precision steel plates from Meusburger for the bridge of the X-axis and the machine table. That's why I didn't make any further adjustments to the X-axis.
@sovahc
@sovahc 4 ай бұрын
Hi! Yoa have overheated endmill when you cutting the steel. You need cooling!
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Yes, you're right. This cutter should be cooled ;-)
@Ackerman_Balbanes
@Ackerman_Balbanes 4 ай бұрын
カッコえぇえ!!!
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
ありがとうございました。;-)
@TomCaudi
@TomCaudi 4 ай бұрын
Please tell us you have plans for this beauty!
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
No big plans so far.. I mainly use this machine to make spare parts or to improve appliances for everyday use. Apart from that, the beauty always looks at me when I walk into my kitchen ;-)
@VectorGameStudio
@VectorGameStudio 4 ай бұрын
Sehr geil
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Danke :-)
@tadeuszmironowicz4737
@tadeuszmironowicz4737 Ай бұрын
super👍
@cammccauley
@cammccauley Ай бұрын
Dude you have like a baby DMG Mori turnmill with a grinding head 😭😭 I want one!
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects Ай бұрын
😉
@egemens
@egemens 4 ай бұрын
😍
@craftzars
@craftzars 4 ай бұрын
its cutting steel better than my 800kg manual milling machine :D
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
In the demo, this was also only an 8 mm end mill. And admittedly, the steel was not that hard/strong (C45) ;-) Thank you!
@craftzars
@craftzars 4 ай бұрын
My mill is 50yo, really abused and screams for restoration. Chatter like hell and brake or chip endmils at every possible chance she have 😅
@Narwaro
@Narwaro 4 ай бұрын
6:41 Is that a Garant 203014? Those are pretty good we also use a lot of them
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Correct - Unbelievable ;-) Here in 8mm, they cut very nicely..
@christianhagemann5991
@christianhagemann5991 4 ай бұрын
Geile Maschine
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Dank Dir!
@amirhoseinmorovati8665
@amirhoseinmorovati8665 4 ай бұрын
just Wow
@minoman6434
@minoman6434 4 ай бұрын
Wo liegst du preislich bei der Maschine?
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Ich habe die Ausgaben nie erfasst, besser nicht ;-)
@geekoid183
@geekoid183 4 ай бұрын
What a great and unique machine! I'm very impressed by the machining capabilities in steel. In fact, that's really what I'm aiming for in my own build. Knowing the stiffness of your machine would help me define my stiffness target. Could you share some stiffness measurements? Here's a measurement method: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZKpnKOJjNCWqsU I'd also like to perform an FEA analysis on the frame of your machine. This would enable a comparison between the real world and the simulation. Do you mind sharing your 3D model? Congratulations on your build!
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Thank you a lot :-) Please don't be angry with me... I myself have never paid much attention to such tests. Choose all cross sections as large as possible and keep all levers short. That was the approach I took to my own design.
@geekoid183
@geekoid183 4 ай бұрын
@@9voltprojects You're welcome, the attention to details really shows, keep it up ! I also understand your design principles. Thanks for letting me know. Unfortunately, I myself cannot follow this design approach blindly :/ In fact, I do have a limited weight envelope. Thus, the design of my machine needs to be as efficient as possible. I'm aiming for a high stiffness to weight ratio. That's where FEA analysis can be so useful. In a few minutes, I can roughtly predict how stiff the machine will be. Because a stiff machine is a capable machine, comparing my results to the stiffness measured on existing machines allows me to better understand the machining capabilities I can expect. My home cannot hold a heavy machine and I need a stiff and capable cnc. That's really why I was hoping to get some stiffness measurements by doing an FEA analysis on your 3D model :')
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Yes, I understand what you mean and I agree with you. Designing a machine is always a game of compromises and a simulation can be helpful. My CAD can also do FEA simulation but I didn't use it for my machine. Yes, a different approach. You'll get there! Make sure your runner blocks have a high preload class. That can make a difference. Good success..
@geekoid183
@geekoid183 4 ай бұрын
@@9voltprojects Oh that's right, thanks again 🙂
@horst6855
@horst6855 4 ай бұрын
looks like your maschine is the yellow from the egg
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
:)
@car9167
@car9167 4 ай бұрын
Nice chips for 1kW
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@AdamMaszynotwor
@AdamMaszynotwor 4 ай бұрын
🦾🦾🦾🦾
@franckyramaroson9995
@franckyramaroson9995 27 күн бұрын
This is amazing! Do you have plan to sell your controlling system? Thank you for sharing! Francky R
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 24 күн бұрын
Thank you for your interest Francky. Starting a business would be too stressful for me 😉
@franckyramaroson9995
@franckyramaroson9995 23 күн бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to comment. I appreciate it! Again, congratulations for what you’ve achieved. I am fan.
@johnlambo135
@johnlambo135 4 ай бұрын
Do you have a instgram account ??? Thanks
@9voltprojects
@9voltprojects 4 ай бұрын
..not yet on insta
@johnlambo135
@johnlambo135 4 ай бұрын
@@9voltprojects I love your milling/ lathe machine this is what i like to built also. It is so clever how you combinate things. How can i contact you ?? Thank you for reply
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