Building a CNC Lathe (Full Video)

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[@kreglamirand2637]

Anyone who has moved a big lathe with small equipment is applauding how easy the editing made this look. Dont be fooled, this is a serious undertaking. Many hours were spent planning how to safely move these parts with a multitude of constraints. Well done man!

[@ActionBOX]

Thank you very much. This is very true. I hope you enjoyed the video 😃

[@crassbusinessman3122]

This channel is criminally undersubscribed. You have the quality, knowledge, entertainment & engagement value of a 2+Million channel.

[@ActionBOX]

This comment made my day, I appreciate you. we shall see what happens.

[@car9167]

100%

[@biomorphic]

I think the problem of this channel are the videos. You cannot actually see the detail of the process, everything happens too fast. It is more about the achievement than the process. I think a project like this, as well as all the others deserved to be divided in 3 different videos, at least.

[@Emulation_Inflation]

Very correct

[@dieselphiend]

There is so much value in these old machines.

[@ActionBOX]

a ton of value. What did you think of the project?

[@dieselphiend]

@@ActionBOX It's inspiring. I've been looking at old machines for years, dreaming of doing exactly what you've done. It's a shame how many of these old machines get scrapped. To breath new life into them in such a way that you understand exactly how they work, and exactly how to repair them, is as good as CNC gets. I'd rather have a machine that I restored, and modified myself as opposed to anything brand new. Really well done, you guys should be proud :)

[@ActionBOX]

@@dieselphiend I really appreciate this comment. It's crazy that we could get these massive machines for almost free, and with a bit of time and learning we can have them back up and running again. Whats holding you back from doing the same thing?

[@dieselphiend]

@@ActionBOX Space, I need more space. I've got a 48" CNC router that I still need to figure out where to put. I've considered mounting it to the ceiling, lol.

[@ActionBOX]

@@dieselphiend hahaha, thats hilarious. do you have links to this anywhere? would love to see it.

[@jeremytheimer7443]

I loved this video. I am a second year electromechanical engineering student and I like how you break down your thought process and your clever solutions for each problem.

[@ActionBOX]

Thanks! It's really rewarding to help people learn, so I'm glad you found it helpful.

[@jtwarner13]

Wow, this video makes it look effortless! I'm sure you spent sooo much time on it! Very cool!

[@ActionBOX]

We spent a lot of time on this video, but we had a great time making it!

[@ct1freak]

Wow just wow. This was so entertaining i didnt want it to end. Subbed

[@ActionBOX]

Love it. If you enjoyed this video then you would absolutely appreciate the videos we will be releasing over the next couple of weeks. We have a DIY Metal Injection Molding Machine coming next week.

[@DylanEdmiston]

Damn, tremendous amount of work and very cool

[@ActionBOX]

Thank you very much .

[@jatag100]

Doing all this and a full time R&D job!

[@virtualmarc2383]

You folks make some of the best KZbin videos I've ever seen. You are truly talented.

[@ActionBOX]

Thank you so much, I really appreciate that. We have a Desktop Metal Injection Molding Machine that we made which you would love if you enjoyed this. stay tuned, video coming out in 1-2 weeks.

[@cwflemmer]

Damn...you guys rock, always a smile on my face when i get a notification of new videos from you guys, why you are still full-time employed is hard to understand, as you have made equipment that would easily be sellable into the maker community, hope you make that transition

[@ActionBOX]

I really appreciate this comment. Thank you for your support and kind words. If you love our videos then you will enjoy the next few weeks as we will be releasing a video every week. Making the transition you describe is difficult with such huge machines, but we have a Desktop Metal Injection Molding Machine video coming out perhaps next week (pictures already on our website), so that might help. Thanks again Dave

[@MilesLabrador]

"wait, if I'm going to buy a container, I might as well buy something that I can use at home." Thank you for teaching mindful consumption!

[@ActionBOX]

Hahaha 😂

[@colinsmyth9211]

Criminally underrated channel.

[@ActionBOX]

Hahah. Thanks for your support 😃

[@theemclane4037]

I don't understand anything apart from the word crane and motor but I'd watch this for hours 😂😂😂

[@ActionBOX]

Hahaha, thanks for the support. I hope you are able to learn something new about how CNC lathes are built and work. We have a bunch of other cool videos coming out like a desktop metal injection molding machine.

[@MillVIPCNC]

Good job. Beautiful machines!!

[@ActionBOX]

Thank you very much!

[@WatchWesWork]

You've put in a lot of work, and it looks good! Just an FYI, your drawtube actuator is pulling against the spindle bearings. The original actuator "floats" and pulls against the spindle itself so the spindle bearings are not constantly under load. This is typically also how the drawbar works in a CNC mill. A better design might be to use the die springs between the drawtube and the spindle tube. Then you just need an actuator to "unclamp" the springs, again, like a CNC mill drawbar. That system would not work for a chuck though, since it needs to clamp over a much wider range.

[@ActionBOX]

I might need you to elaborate as I dont think I understand, but with a CNC mill drawbar there is a built in spring mechanism which pulls its back. In the Lathe this did not exist. maybe it exists in modern designs but definitely not in this old machine. Thanks again for watching and looking froward to your reply

[@WatchWesWork]

@@ActionBOX Correct, you would have to make it. The original hydraulic actuator is just a hydraulic ram that pulls the drawtube on one end and pushes against the rotating spindle tube on the other end. It can pull on the drawtube as hard as it wants and there is no load transferred to the spindle bearings. With your design, any time the drawtube is pulled by the actuator, the thrust load is transferred to the spindle bearings. The spindle bearings are rated for a lot of axial load, but it's still not a good practice.

[@breakaway-e8s]

Cool vid. I hope you bought the seller a beer for being pretty cool about all the work you did on his site (cleaning, dissasembly etc). Most would not allow that.

[@ActionBOX]

They were seriously the coolest people Ive met in a while.

[@mesikamoto]

Wow you make it look so easy. For me it would take a year.

[@ActionBOX]

Thank you

[@sedled2829]

Thats crazy i never understood cnc lathes but breaking one down made it soo clear damn thanks

[@ActionBOX]

Im happy you could learn from this video. We have another similar one coming out about the CNC mill we bought in the video.,

[@surajjaiswal1371]

Please put out that DIY Metal 3D Printer video! I am very excited to learn from it and hopefully build a version of that.

[@ActionBOX]

It's coming. we have our Desktop Metal Injection Molding Machine video coming out first (INJEKTO M) and after that the printer

[@surajjaiswal1371]

@@ActionBOX Great news! I am very excited for both the videos! All the best man!

[@sedled2829]

Holy shit, crazy deal u got and your engineering background knowledge is very showing. Very proud

[@ActionBOX]

I really appreciate that, it was a ton of work and I'm glad it's appreciated

[@Cyrix2k]

Awesome video! Super impressed with what you've been able to accomplish and your background as an R&D engineer is clear.

[@ActionBOX]

Thank you very much. I hope you enjoyed. Stay tuned for our really cool videos coming out in the next 3 weeks.

[@user-cg3em4cw4f]

This came out the same day I finished my CNC mini lathe from scratch!

[@ActionBOX]

hahah, thats awesome. I would love to see it. Are you willing to share some pics with us?

[@user-cg3em4cw4f]

@@ActionBOX Sure! I've attached some shortened image links at the bottom of the machine and one of the parts it made. Keep in mind I'm a college student on a pretty tight budget so it's not the most glamorous machine, especially compared to the stuff you've made. Total cost was around $150. The bed and headstock are 3d printed shells with a concrete rebar+wire mixture poured in them. Motor needs replacement as it's only 250W and struggles a bit with torque. Entire spindle and chuck mounting arrangement was made by me on a university lathe. Electronics are functional if not nice looking. I made the carriage and all the aluminum components on my equally jank budget CNC router. I can send images of that as well if you want, but that's it's own thing. Overall I'm pretty happy with how it turned out since it's definitely one of the more ambitious projects I've done. Still on my to-do list is a tailstock, a better toolpost mount, since the current one is really weird, and a few other quality improvements. Lathe: tinyurl.com/3954mwnd Test Part: tinyurl.com/2ssh9msf

[@user-cg3em4cw4f]

@@ActionBOX Sure! Do you have a good way for me to send images? I made a comment earlier going over the general construction that I think got deleted due to having image links in it.

[@M3g4t0n]

Damn, I'm genuinly jealous!

[@thoughtbombdesign]

AMAZING build and great find of an old lathe. Now I just need a bigger space!

[@ActionBOX]

Thank you very much. Finding the lathe is a bit of a waiting game but when something pops up it will be worth it. Let me know if we can help in any way.

[@thoughtbombdesign]

​@ActionBOX ​@ActionBOX I am in the middle of updating a bridgeport boss 6 with a Masso controller. Can't wait to get it up and running.

[@sunnydaybadua2868]

You deserve more sub and views!! Awesome project.

[@ActionBOX]

Thanks, I appreciate the support!

[@AdamMaszynotwor]

Good job my friend! 🦾🦾🦾🦾 I recently started retrofitting a CNC lathe CYCLONE DENFORD. I've even uploaded the first videos but there's a ton of work and unforeseen faults, e.g. spindle bearings or slides glued to the guides. Pozdrawiam z Polski 🛠🛠

[@ActionBOX]

My friend, I feel your pain. This is definitely a very demanding project. Good on you for sticking with it. Let me know if we can help in any way. How long have you been working on it so far?

[@NorthernFabandMachineLLC]

The color coding of moving parts is genius and simple

[@ActionBOX]

hahah, thank you. It actually turned out looking pretty nice as well. what are your thoughts on the bright orange and black?

[@MJPilote]

Awesome find, those old Emcos are built like a tank! I know I own two. 😊 Oh yeah, the old electronics are worth something. Sinumerik parts are well built!

[@ActionBOX]

thats good to know. Its too bad I recycled that massive spindle motor for $50

[@Algone_11]

Superb renovation

[@ActionBOX]

Thanks a lot

[@spinnetti]

Looks great! I did CNC servo conversions of my manual machines years ago, then upgraded, but not to true professional machines. Reminds me of when I went from Cincinatti to Detroit to get a Tormach Mill and get it home to my garage all solo... Then it didn't fit in the garage so had to partially disassemble it in the dark to get it to fit so I could return the trailer. Couldn't get it off the trailer, so dragged it off with my lawn tractor lol. How many RPM you getting out of the spindle? looks really low. Your controller and pendant are laughably cheap compared to even just a few years ago. Nice to see this all get more affordable!

[@ActionBOX]

I feel your pain, but I'm glad to know Im not alone in this hahah. My spindle RPM is indeed low with a maximum of 3000RPM, but it's perfect for my home shop needs. Thank you for your support.

[@joels7605]

You're making a vacuum furnance too??? Awesome.

[@ActionBOX]

You got it, we have a video about it coming out soon. Dont forget to subscribe to be notified. Looking forward to your comment on that video Joel

[@MrKingChannel1]

Hey, nice to see you guys again Love your videos

[@ActionBOX]

Thank you! We've got more videos like this coming in the next couple weeks. Stay tuned :)

[@ActionBOX]

Welcome back! We have a barrage of videos coming out this month including a desktop metal injection molding machine. Subscribe and stay tuned.

[@tytechguy]

I've been using masso for years and haven't ever had any issues. I own 2 G3's on two machines with tool changers that never had a single problem. If I ever build another machine that's the controller I'll buy again.

[@ActionBOX]

It definitely has a ton of issues and software bugs. It doesn’t run some useful code like g83 tapping cycles.

[@tytechguy]

@@ActionBOX that's odd. I've never had any issues with mine. And I flash every latest firmware they release. I did have a issue with my toolchanger once but I flashed back to the previous firmware and it went away. As anything, it depends on what you're using it for determines what issues you'll find. I've gotten lucky I guess. Lol.

[@philip_fletcher]

Another excellent project! On the collet closer, the draw tube should close under spring pressure (springs rotate with the spindle) and only be opened with your linear actuator. That way the thrust bearings and actuator only have to function during collet release much reducing wear (and heat). Also means you are not putting axial pressure on the spindle bearings during normal operation. Same principle as an automotive clutch.

[@ActionBOX]

Wow, Philip as I was reading your comment I was realizing how much better your solution is than mine. Where were you when I was building this machine haha. Can you share a link to an example of one of these mechanisms so I can get a better visual? Hope you enjoyed the video. Cheers, Dave

[@HuskyMachining]

lol, This was my only criticism I could think of too. I was wondering how long that tiny thrust bearing would last running constantly under load.

[@gioben5444]

Will not work. You need to be able to clamp the internal diameter too. There is reason hydraulics were used in the original lathe.

[@ActionBOX]

​@@gioben5444 I dont understand what you are saying

[@ActionBOX]

@@HuskyMachining Seems like a popular opinion, This is one of my favorite aspects of posting a video on KZbin, I get feedback that I have not considered. Thank you very much.

[@Salmacream]

Man I wish I knew how to do this stuff this is nuts.

[@spinnetti]

Just dive in.. the high quality hardware is pretty easy to get... lots of disassembly and cleaning.

[@ActionBOX]

I would agree that diving in is step number one. You’ve got this.

[@latchmanjamna4338]

Beautiful video!

[@ActionBOX]

Thank you very much 😃, which part did you like the most?

[@785tkfactory]

とても良い機械だ。 私も日本でcncを作っている。

[@ActionBOX]

Very cool.

[@JayDee-b5u]

The mangled finger is proof of work.

[@ActionBOX]

hahaha, Im glad to see that you are clearly paying attention. Thoughts on the project?

[@JayDee-b5u]

@@ActionBOX Beautiful. I'm interested in doing similar projects in the future. You guys are showing me how to do it. From EDM to lathe to injecto and now this. Bigger and bigger it seems. I had always wished my brothers and I would invent things together like you and your brother. I suppose I will have to live that experience vicariously through you two. Question, how much runout would have been unacceptable per the diameter of the lathe? Did you have a formula or a percentage value or...?

[@ActionBOX]

@@JayDee-b5u Thats mazing, I'm glad we could inspire others. We actually also just finished inventing a Metal Injection Molding Machine which we will release the video to in about a week or two. the product is already on actionbox.ca and its called INJEKTO M In terms of unacceptable runout, I do not have a value for you unfortunately, but that is a good question. Cheers, Dave

[@HuskyMachining]

cool video. I'm about to start machining the baseplate for a little 5c cnc lathe I'm building and I'm going with the same MASSO controller. I'm also a high vacuum nerd so I'm pumped to see your next video!

[@ActionBOX]

o heck yeah. Im so curious to see what you have to say about our DIY High Vacuum Furnace next week. I dont want you to hold back though, I want all your honest thoughts hahah. Glad you enjoyed the the video. Dave

[@steveggca]

thats a nice machine . as someone that has installed and maintained industrial cnc lathes for over 15 years (in the past,not now) , I would strongly advise you to abandon your current approach to collet clamping . as others have said it will not end well. Its important to remember that the collet closers that you see on manual 5c machines are not holding the collet closed, the collets are self locking/wedging. if you watch someone operating one ,they are thumping it closed and then thumping it back open again. I appreciate that you want to eliminate the hydraulic system and the hydraulic chuck actuator they are very noisy and hot. An option to consider is Front Mount Air 20c Collet Chuck they are self contained spring closed and air opened. and of course can be automated. Brands like atlas and rohm sell air chucks ,so that you can see the principle of them , at the moment I could only find 20C from a few chinese manufacturers.

[@ActionBOX]

That’s a great idea actually. Are there many options for 5c air chucks?

[@steveggca]

@@ActionBOX one that appears available in North America is ATLAS ATL206-5C. Part of Pratt burnard a very reputable chuck Manufacturer. There also several Chinese variations from china

[@jonathantaylor2584]

Home Depot rentals come in clutch with no milage fees. Just moved a 6000lb Tsugami lathe with a rental drop deck trailer and a couple pallet jacks.

[@ActionBOX]

Interesting, mine had a 1500lbs weight limit which is why I had to do several trips. I am definitely grateful for those rental trucks though.

[@jonathantaylor2584]

@@ActionBOX I rented one of their F250s and trailered the machine with a rented hydraulic drop deck trailer that was rated for 10000lbs. Those trailers are a lifesaver and you can mount a come along in the truck bed to winch stuff on. I've used them for a pair of small CNC mills in the past. Having a Harbor Freight gantry crane is also useful for some taller things in the truck bed, but can be hard to justify if you don't have somewhere to store it.

[@ActionBOX]

@@jonathantaylor2584 O gotcha, this makes sense. Thanks for the info. Im sure you will see me use this tip of yours in a future video. haha

[@danielkemp4860]

AWESOME STUFF 🙌🙌🙌

[@ActionBOX]

Glad you enjoyed it! What was your favorite part?

[@PhilsProjects]

cool build, if you want to protect your 3d printed cover from hot chips , cover it with aluminum foil tape

[@ActionBOX]

Good idea, I’ll give that a try.

[@joni-pd5ti]

Loved the video. Very well made. Will there also be a video of fixing up the haas mill?

[@ActionBOX]

Thank you, im glad you enjoyed. Yes that video will come out in about 3-4 weeks. over the next week or two we will launch a video of our Desktop Metal Injection Molding Machine. I am super excited for it as it's likely the coolest machine we have ever built. Stay tuned to see that. Cheers, Dave

[@merttoprakli9675]

Amazing job

[@ActionBOX]

Thank you very much.

[@segwaydave]

I so wanted to hit that subscribe button while watching the video. But I can’t… Subscribed a long time ago :)

[@ActionBOX]

hahah, nice. I hope you are enjoying our content. We have some really cool videos coming out over the next couple of weeks. Stay tuned.

[@xIsouLcruSHca]

Awesome project! Honestly an amazing deal for 1500 as long as you got the space, knowledge and skills! My only concern is 24:28, doesn't the constant stress of the motor weighing down on the plastic bracket cause it to creep overtime? Can't wait to see the vacuum furnace build!!

[@ActionBOX]

Good point. The answer is perhaps. I dont use this as an industrial lathe (24/7) I use it as needed everyone and then so I anticipate the piece will last longer than me. Regardless, the beauty in this project is that I can just reprint a new on in 4 hours and replace the part. We have some really cool videos coming out once a week for the next little while, so stay tuned. Looking forward to your comments in our new videos. Dave

[@ethanmye-rs]

Nice, but stop mesuring concentricity outside bore. It’s not what matters - measure on the mating surface.

[@ActionBOX]

You’re right, measuring concentricity on the outside was unwise. We will make sure to focus on the mating surface moving forward. Other than that did you find any other issues that we can focus on? Thank you for the good tip.

[@JayDee-b5u]

That is a great point. Things could be very different.

[@KostyantinKravchenko]

Step 1 : hide everything with paint Step 2 : defect detection Nice

[@ActionBOX]

lol Nice

[@GBWM_CNC]

That's huge! I'm working currently on a CNC lathe too, but that's tons of work. Btw what is that in front of the main spindle? Is that a tailstock of any kind or a second spindle?

[@ActionBOX]

I am well aware, I check in with your channel every now and then. Great stuff you do and I would love to collaborate with you on our Desktop Metal Injection Molding Machine (video coming out in 1 - 2 weeks). To answer your question that was a massive tailstock, not a spindle. Cheers, Dave

[@GBWM_CNC]

@@ActionBOX So great to hear that you check in some time! :) If you'd like to contact with me just let me know. Metal injection molding machines are really interesting stuff too - I'd love to build one in the future but that needs tons of knowledge for sure too. Btw what kind of tailstock is that? Hydraulic? Pneumatic? Electric motor? Are you going to use it? I'm going to make a pneumatic tailstock for my lathe with electro-pneumatic pressure valve control (0-10V from panel). Keep up your work! Greetings!

[@ActionBOX]

@@GBWM_CNC The tailstock was Hydraulic. I converted it to Electric and then realized I just dont need it in my machine for the type of work I do, so I pulled it out.

[@GBWM_CNC]

@@ActionBOX That makes sense!

[@seancollins9745]

I bought a used Cincinnati milacron cinturn 12u for $2500, spent 15k so far replacing controls drives etc, got a badass industrial lathe now however

[@ActionBOX]

thats awesome. we are not so different you and I haha

[@seancollins9745]

@@ActionBOX Well, I did my retrofit with Linuxcnc and wrote and entire toolchanger program in C, and I would recommend setting up a 4 bit switch and ditching the encoder and stepper on the tool changer. or use a 8 bit optical encoder disc. each bit with it's own signal. But yeah the maso stuff is interesting. I stuck with teh stock DC servos and I upgraded the drives to siemens and glentek.

[@ireneuszwala]

In drawbar you should use disc sprig to pull and electric motor to release

[@ActionBOX]

can you share a link with me?

[@Stoeckermann]

​@@ActionBOXLook for belleville washer

[@ireneuszwala]

You can use system similar too hsk/SK tool changer drawbar with bevel springs and use electric actuator to unclamp the chuck. Now in your system the bearing is the weakest part because it is carrying all of the clamping force. in my opinion the bearing is prone to failure due to overheat or overload Sorry for my English it's not my native language

[@Crappy.Consumer.Reports]

This dude is a baller

[@ActionBOX]

Thanks dude

[@justintupicruz6324]

I need a shreedii to recycle my 3d prints failures and supports.....

[@ActionBOX]

Then make sure you sign up for the free giveaway from the link in the description.

[@DeviloftheHelll]

i hope you kept the original servo. as you can run it at much lower power then its rated if you replace the controller. or it still works

[@ActionBOX]

I still have them but im thinking of recycling them. I cant think of any need for them.

[@Slayer553826]

Great video but just an FYI, you are using the wrong set of screws for attaching your square shank turning tools in the VDI holder. You want to use the set screws in the same direction as the carbide insert screw. The back of the tool needs to be against the solid steel shoulder of the holder so the cutting forces are transferred to the rigid holder and NOT the screws.

[@ActionBOX]

Can you elaborate on which part of the video you are referring to so I can look into this and respond? I’m a bit confused 🤔

[@David-xo8ci]

What he means is that the setscrews you use to secure the tool in the toolholder are supposed to clamp down on the top side of the tool ( so the side on which the insert is) and not on the bottom. This will however only work if you have the right size tool. If the holder is made for a 25x25mm tool and you put in a 20x20mm tool, it'll be off the centerline by 5mm unless you put a 5mm shim underneath the tool.

[@ActionBOX]

@@David-xo8ci or if I use screws on the bottom to act as 5mm shims. I believe that is what I did there. ??

[@David-xo8ci]

​@@ActionBOXIt'll work, but for rigidity, you want the bottom of the tool to have as much contact with the tool holder as possible, since it needs to transfer the cutting load to the tool holder. The way you have it setup now, the cutting forces pull the tool away from the most rigid part of the tool holder, whereas if you clamp on the top of the tool, the cutting forces push the tool onto the biggest, most rigid area the tool holder has to offer.

[@Slayer553826]

@@ActionBOX Time stamp is 20:29, you should be using the screws on the opposite side from what you tightened with the impact. @David-xo8ci is correct that you can use shims but easier if you don't have to. Look up your VDI holder specs from the part number and it will tell you what size square shank to use with it. The reason the holder has screws on both sides is to let you use either left or right hand tools with the same holder.

[@American.Divergent]

Aww I’m a little bummed with all this work you sealed the sand doors with sealer on dirty surfaces.

[@ActionBOX]

hahha, I was waiting for someone to comment on this. It wasn't meant to be glue but rather just a gasket so it doesn't matter for me as long as the screw holds the hatch closed. Good call though.

[@romanschmid8985]

The German maschin is actually from Austria just wanted to say that

[@ActionBOX]

Yup, I’ve been called out in that. I stand corrected, my mistake.

[@madmat990]

My dude! Great video....I have a Sauter turret, also VDI30, but it has live tooling capability. It's electro-hydraulic so I will be stuck with a noisy pump, I think. I would like to understand more of the coding aspect required to make it actuate....like how does the T command send a signal to the turret and what kind of signal is it? Thanks.

[@ActionBOX]

Thats awesome, Im jealous of your live tooling haha. Can you elaborate on your question about controlling the turret? Ps. Dont forget to subscribe

[@ClayFRocker]

metal 3d printer when!?! PLEASE I'M BEGGING YOU

[@ActionBOX]

hahah, very soon, first we will release the video of our Desktop Metal Injection Molding Machine (INJEKTO M) in a week or two, and after that the metal printer. Subscribe to be notified. Cheers

[@crassbusinessman3122]

The paint looks fine! Minor aspect compared to the behemoth of assembling that lathe! Fantastic video yet again. Luckily, you asked me to subscribe 4 times so I had to unsubscribe, subscribe, unsubscribe, subscribe, so we're back where we started :)

[@ActionBOX]

hahahah, this comment was funny. Hopefully you are back to "SUBSCRIBED" because we have a Desktop Metal Injection Molding Machine video coming out in a week or two. Looking forward to your comment there.

[@crassbusinessman3122]

@@ActionBOX Absolutely! You guys never cease to amaze. Where was your brother this episode??

[@airgunningyup]

the 30kw servo prob sold for more than the price he paid for the lathe

[@ActionBOX]

The really sad thing is that I took it to the scrapyard and got about $50 for it. Definitely regretting that

[@airgunningyup]

@@ActionBOX yea, it would have sold on ebay for a few thousand but could take a yr to sell

[@ActionBOX]

@@airgunningyup Thats too bad. I still think I got a great deal on a CNC lathe though haha. What did you think of the video?

[@airgunningyup]

@@ActionBOX awesome, love seeing these machines saved from the scrapyard

[@Stoeckermann]

​@@airgunningyup i bought my Weiler for 800 and Sold the old electronics for 600 xD

[@ryanclarke2161]

Guys are absolutely geniuses but still move shop cranes in the car with no cage or retention etc. Get a trailer and live longer for more projects please

[@ActionBOX]

hahah, Sometimes you have to work with what you have. I wasn't keen on investing in a new vehicle for a single day of transporting a shop crane.

[@mr702s]

It's a trajedy and injustice that the 3D printing world calls tramming, "leveling"... It's so wrong and all big KZbinrs perpetuate that mistake.

[@ActionBOX]

leveling and tramming are two very different things. Tramming refers to a plain-to-plain relationship. leveling refers to a point-to-plain relationship. Does that make sense? I can try to elaborate. let me know.

[@mito7212]

Excelente contenido

[@ActionBOX]

Thank you

[@winandd8649]

@36:51 Time for a CNC table, so you don't have to print entire faceplates 😃

[@ActionBOX]

Hahah, did you see the CNC Mill we bought? we showed it in the video. We will use it to remake all of these parts. I hope you enjoyed the video.

[@neutrallybiassed1330]

the boring part didn't have a boring bar... smh...

[@ActionBOX]

which boring part?

[@daveydavelawrence5466]

The polycarbonate window will last about 1 week with the swarf hitting it and will scratch it to the point of no visibility. That's why safety windows have glass on the inside and polycarbonate for the safety part on the outside!

[@ActionBOX]

yeah fair enough, but my spindle runs far too slow to kick up chips. The window still looks brand new. I shall keep you posted.

[@X197ToPlay]

11:29 Jesus christ mate :D be gental whit that man

[@ActionBOX]

hahah.

[@matthias2349]

It's not german, its Austrian ;) Emco Turn 36

[@ActionBOX]

Yeah, whoops. That has been established in a prior comment but you are correct. My mistake

[@solidamanda]

I hate this guy. He's making me want to make one too.

[@ActionBOX]

Hahaha, that’s good, we are here to inspire 😃

[@leroyjenkins3580]

I assume that controller defaults mill cuz you don't usually M06 a lathe

[@ActionBOX]

hmmm, nope it was in lathe mode, but I wrote the Code manually and I am definitely not a professional CNC machine operator, so I may have written the code in a way that while works, isn't a professional standard.

[@leroyjenkins3580]

@@ActionBOX maybe it's just that way with the separation of of all the components. Usually a lathe goes T101 tool 1 offset 1, T100 tool 1 no offset, T102 tool 1 offset 2. Mills usually use the T1 M06 to change tool and you call up whatever D for diameter or H for height. Hand on both accounts if you need separate offsets for same tools. Either way, awesome job

[@Gameeclips65]

what happend to your finger ?😨

[@ActionBOX]

Sporting accident, I tore a tendon and I was dumb enough to keep working despite the injury. Hopefully you trust me when I say we are committed to your entertainment hahah

[@Gameeclips65]

@@ActionBOX great just bulid a airraid siren frome an old bench grinder

[@Narwaro]

Im all for DIY and retrofitting old machines with modern technology but cutting out working industrial components and replacing them with cheap chinese junk is something I dont understand.

[@ActionBOX]

Hmm, not a difficult concept to understand. When a component goes bad I want to be able to replace it easily and cheaply, as opposed to relying on proprietary mounting (or control) standards for components which are an order of magnitude more expensive. Hope that helps

[@Narwaro]

@@ActionBOX If those parts have survived 30 years of industrial use, I doubt anything would break as long as you have it. And if it does youre probably in a position to just replace it or replace the machine with a better one in every way for not much more money. At least sell the spare parts, it'll probably pay for the whole machine.

[@ActionBOX]

@@Narwaro Fair enough. Im still passionate about the innovation. Perhaps that isnt a good enough answer for building a machine for commercial use, but I built this machine for personal use.

[@Narwaro]

@@ActionBOX The Masso is definitely the better option for personal use I agree. And yes, just adding a new controller and nothing else probably would have made for a pretty boring video half ;)

[@Kabodanki]

german engineering back the days was incredible, nowadays it is just a lie, das auto, dutch qualitat, was one of the most succesful marketing event ever pulled. In reality, when it comes to cars, it just a shame, japanese engineering totally destroy them.

[@ActionBOX]

Maybe I should get a modern CNC German lathe and compare the quality 😜.

[@hier0dingens0weiste]

Just fyi its an emco lathe which means it is not German but Austrian. That is unless you know more and it was produced under license by someone else?

[@ActionBOX]

@@hier0dingens0weiste Wow, you are right. Thats awkward. Thank you for fixing me.

[@ireneuszwala]

@@Kabodanki I can agree with you in my job I work with many German machines and many brand's and I can sey Italian machines are much better designed and better programmed I'm an engineer and I hate when something brake down so I'm driving japanese car

[@David-xo8ci]

All Italian machines I've ever worked with were total crap. As for German/Austrian machines: I work on two industrial cnc lathes daily, one Okuma and one Emco. Both sizable machines, up to 700mm diameter work. The only thing the Emco is good for is roughing because it has a lot of power and high pressure coolant. It's not even remotely accurate or repeatable and the Siemens control is very illogical and very limited in terms of it's capabilities. Same on the smaller Emco we have. The Okuma on the other hand is incredibly accurate, and so are the other three Okuma's we have, even after 30 years of abuse. You can have them run for a week straight and have less than 10 microns of difference in tolerances. The control takes a little time to figure out, but once you have, it's incredibly capable. Even the OSP5000 series control, introduced in 1988, still is more capable than most recent controls on other machines. So for my two cents, go with the Japanese stuff.

[@darkracer1252]

look i get your reasoning when you say the comment "i am not disassembling it with the forklift because i want a garantee. that i can reassemble it back home" but you can't pretend like that matters one bit at all. you already began disassembling and have been in the way in those people's shop for probbably a week or so. there is absolutely ZERO chance that you would eventually get to the point where you would say. "this is impossible. i'm not gonna take it" you were infact commited from the second you entered their shop with your camera rolling. not to mention how deeply you're committed with that lathe 50% disassembled.

[@everyhandletaken]

🤨

[@ActionBOX]

Im very confused by this comment. Seems like I'm not the only one

[@user-cg3em4cw4f]

What does this mean?

[@Cyrix2k]

@@ActionBOX it sounds like the commenter interpreted "guarantee" in a way that @ActionBOX would leave the lathe at the seller's if they weren't confident they could reassemble it? The point was that the procedures used to disassemble it could also be used to reassemble it.

[@ActionBOX]

@@Cyrix2k Gotcha, makes sense. Since I rented a home depot truck to move all of the parts (paying per hour), I didnt want to get home and realize that I'm stuck for a few days with several tons of weight on their truck. That was my concern really. Otherwise, yes I would have left it at the seller's place until I could figure out a solution. The sellers were the coolest guys and Im sure they would have helped me out. Good thing this is all history now

[@darkracer1252]

did you just say the sand was not optimal? pretty sure it's better than your own solution. seeing as the loose sand will be better at dampning vibrations than your pebble filled solid chunk of epoxy. (wich would transmit the vibrations)

[@Serbokrat]

What is your opinion on epoxy granite?

[@darkracer1252]

@@Serbokrat why ask me? all i am saying is that the sand would absorb vibrations because they are free moving particles. rather than transmitting vibrations like anything solid.

[@madmat990]

@@darkracer1252 Bruh, nobody is using loose sand any more. Epoxy/granite is far away better at absorbing vibration...the top machine builders in the world use it. The epoxy is not infinitely stiff, so think of it as a super thick liquid. Dead as hell. In the US, Hardinge was one of the first to use it, and they called it HarCrete.

[@ActionBOX]

Feel free to read up on Energy Dissipation Mechanisms of epoxy granite vs sand. Modern machine bases don’t really substitute epoxy granite (nor cast iron) for loose sand.

[@ActionBOX]

Madmat990, that’s cool I didn’t know that about hardinge. Thanks for sharing.

[@davidgardener1152]

HOLY MOLY. 🫨 congratulations. that was amazing

[@ActionBOX]

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[@davidgardener1152]

@@ActionBOX beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen subscribed fam!! for ages now! :) keep it up!!

[@ActionBOX]

@@davidgardener1152 hahaha, sweet. I appreciate your support my friend.