A Doctrine of WORKS = DOUBT or PRIDE

[@myflourishingfam]

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[@FREEDOM_2022oN]

Thank you Adam. Great message. Praise God

[@highcompressionhead7940]

You are a blessing brother, please don't stop sharing all the Lord gives you.

[@myflourishingfam]

Thank you for the encouragment! God bless you too!

[@RobertMclaren68]

Thank-you Jesus for your glorious gospel of grace!!! 🙏✝️

[@Bman7772]

I’ve noticed the more I focus on Jesus the less I sin. The moment I take my focus on him and think, “wow look at me I am doing so good against ____ specific sin” is the day I always fall back in it. Staying vertical with Jesus is important.

[@myflourishingfam]

Amen!

[@nigelreid186]

Amen brother good job. The enemy wants to keep our eyes fixed on ourselves and our sin so we don’t come to God for mercy and help, so we don’t feel good enough to serve, so he can condemn us before the law of Moses and also to move us to condemn others. But we are to fix our eyes on Jesus and know that now we are ministered life and reconciliation (by the law of the Spirit) and we will be judged by the law of liberty not the law of Moses which brings about wrath. I like how you talked about the verse in Jude. Amen, the Lord will keep us unto the Day!

[@drewmcginn3422]

Gods word is beyond amazing he’s so good it’s amazing that he did it all for us!

[@privatepilot4064]

Well said Brother! Eyes up! Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the GIFT of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." Acts 16:31 "And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Colossians 1:14 "In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:" Salvation is obtained by simply believing in Jesus' death (Blood sacrifice), burial and resurrection with all your heart for payment of all your sins, past, present and future.

[@gregorylatta8159]

Excellent. Ephesians 2 8-9 destroys all works based salvation doctrine.

[@2Chronicles714_]

​@@gregorylatta8159 Does it destroy or explain don't try to live by the Mosaic Law works to be saved but absolutely good works will follow after repentance resulting from faith? Ephesians 2:10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. Titus 2:11-14 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; 13Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; 14Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. Titus 3:5-8 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7That being justified by his grace, WE SHOULD BE MADE HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE HOPE OF ETERNAL LIFE. 8This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that THOU AFFIRM CONSTANTLY, that they which have believed in God might be CAREFUL TO MAINTAIN GOOD WORKS. These things are GOOD and PROFITABLE unto men. 1 Corinthians 15:58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.

[@StalkedHuman]

.. and works of iniquity that are so loved is cause for contempt. The defense that the worthless church of Belial engages in is common

[@2Chronicles714_]

@@gregorylatta8159 Does it destroy or explain don't try to live by the Mosaic Law works to be saved but absolutely good works will follow after repentance resulting from faith? Ephesians 2:10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. Titus 2:11-14 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; 13Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; 14Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. Titus 3:5-8 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7That being justified by his grace, WE SHOULD BE MADE HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE HOPE OF ETERNAL LIFE. 8This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that THOU AFFIRM CONSTANTLY, that they which have believed in God might be CAREFUL TO MAINTAIN GOOD WORKS. These things are GOOD and PROFITABLE unto men. 1 Corinthians 15:58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.

[@hyeminkwun9523]

What does the next verse Eph 2:10 say ? "We are His handiwork, created in Christ Jesus for the GOOD WORKs that God has prepared in advance that we SHOUD Live in them." All the dead were judged according to their deeds (Rev 20:13), those who have done GOOD DEEDS to the resurrection of Life, but those who have done wicked deeds to the resurrection of condemnation (John 5:29). Do you sin ? Then you are a slave of sin (John 8:34). Whoever sins belongs to the Devil (1 John 3:8). So many delude themselves quoting Eph 2:8-9 and thinking themselves saved. St. Paul said, "I chastise my body and bring it into subjection, for fear that, after having preached to others, I myself should become a reprobate (1 Cor 9:27)." St. Paul was concerned about losing salvation and, thus exhorted believers, "Work out your salvation with fear and trembling (Phil 2:12)." Do you think obtaining salvation is a piece of cake? That's why Our Lord said, "How narrow the gate and strait the road that leads to life, and those who find it are few (Matt 7:14). How hard it is to enter the Kingdom of Heaven (Mark 10:25)." St. Peter said, "If the righteous one is barely saved, where will the godless and the sinner appear (1 Peter 4:18)."

[@RighteousEmbrace]

HALLELUJAH ❤

[@drewmcginn3422]

I luv your videos man. Very timely when the false teachers are out there speaking condemnation along with satan. Very encouraging! 💥🤩👍

[@DarrylPassow]

THANKYOU FRIEND

[@JuliaShalomJordan]

Amen, brother. Thank you. Just love your clarity.🙌🏻

[@jamicarlton5734]

Very encouraging thank you brother 💚🙏💚

[@Uteria_888]

Thank you sir. ❤

[@LesWiles]

Its courageous of you for expounding upon the gospel. Do not be discouraged by the naysayers that will twist your words, for they do that to bamboozle you. The summary of what you said is biblical truth.

[@gregorylatta8159]

Well said!

[@darenvaloie7037]

Another beautiful message, thank you brother.

[@myflourishingfam]

Thanks for listening!

[@debwease]

Great message, Adam! Love the analogy of one wanting to pay for the meal or leave a tip when someone else offers to pay. 🙏

[@myflourishingfam]

Ya, I heard a pastor say that once and it clarified so much. God bless!

[@Andrewjapaneserees]

I was in Singapore and wanted to leave a tip. My friend said that's a no here.

[@nickaldrich-mn]

This is so right! I spent so much of my life striving to sanctify myself. For some reason I never had a problem trusting God for justification, but I've always struggled with turn toward Him for Sanctification. The fruit of that mindset is exactly what you said doubt or pride. One other thing I experienced is the feeling that He was really disappointed in me all the time. Then I changed my mind ...enter joy and rest.

[@PutGodfirst129]

John 14:12 King James Version 12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

[@nickaldrich-mn]

@PutGodfirst129 Good verse. I agree. It's so great that when we rest in Christ his love empowers our obedience. Much better than striving to do it ourself. There is power in the gospel!

[@PutGodfirst129]

@ Ephesians 2:10 King James Version 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

[@nickaldrich-mn]

@@PutGodfirst129 I feel like you are attempting to make a point that I'm not picking up on. Can you enlighten me? I believe God's word is infallible. So any verse you post I will agree with and say, "Amen" to.

[@davidn3843]

@@nickaldrich-mn Don't worry, he's like that. A mystery man. Working away like a blind mole in the dark! Pointing others back to works based crap! Getting people to look to themselves, and away from Christ, it seems. We just look to Jesus. The author and finisher of our faith. Praise God! Blessings and kindest regards David from Australia. 🌏 🙄☝️

[@The_Supernatural_Life]

Wonderful message! "Looking unto Jesus"! Amen! So glad to have found your channel and to become a part of this faith community. Let's encourage and edify one another.

[@PutGodfirst129]

Today's the day to REPENT for tomorrow's NOT GUARANTEED

[@myflourishingfam]

Thank you! I'm glad it's been helpful and thank you for the encouragement. Always build on the foundation of grace (Heb 13:9) and God bless!

[@davidn3843]

​​@@PutGodfirst129 Those who have trusted in the finished work of Jesus Christ, have changed their minds (repented). Through simple childlike faith they are NOW Justified, having NOW received peace with God. They are standing in Grace, Rejoicing in the assurance and guarantee of their Glorification. Romans 5: 1-2. NOW, that's assurance! Our tomorrow's are FULL OF HOPE! 🤗😃👍 David from Australia. 🌏 🙄☝️

[@PutGodfirst129]

@@davidn3843 FINISHED WORKS OF CHRIST means You must be born again, REPENT from all sin, and trust in Christ as the reason for your salvation.

[@davidn3843]

@@PutGodfirst129 Yes, a change of mind. The Greek word is Metanoia, to change ones mind. From unbelief to belief. Not, repent of sins. God repented many times in the Old Testament! So was He repenting of sins? No, of course not! God was merely changing His mind. Unbelief is what God is not keen on. Our sins have been completely dealt with through the death of Jesus Christ. Just because we're completely forgiven, that God no longer imputes sin to our account, doesn't mean God wants us to stay in our sins, because we can become slaves to it, and Christ has come to set us free. Galatians 5:1. Regarding the repentance, of course, coming to this place of believing the Gospel of His Grace and Love, may certainly bring a person feelings of remorse and regret (Godly sorrow) for their sins (we're only human after all), but this cannot be added as part/requirement of our salvation. This would be adding to the pure message of the Gospel. Our redemption and justification is entirely by Faith which grants us our Peace with God (reconciliation).This is ALL through Christ, and we stand in that Great Grace in the guarantee (eternal security) of our certainty of Glorification. All by Grace through Faith, alone. 1 Corinthians 15: 1-4, Romans 5:1-2. Ephesians 2: 8-9. The unadulterated Gospel brings liberty and rest for the sinner. God's Love is offered freely to the ungodly sinner (everyone). From this place of Grace in which we stand, we are more likely to not sin. I know this to be true as a fact in my own spiritual walk. Simply believing the Gospel. Believing in the finished work, is what saves and brings rest from condemnation. Nothing of ourselves. So, NO, I don't need to repent of my sins. I know I'm a wretched sinner, God knows better than I do. He dealt with ALL my sin on Calvary. Unbelief is what kept me from being saved. Belief ALONE is what saved me. Coming to that understanding that Jesus Christ is the Saviour and I am the Saved. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved. Acts 16:31. But to him that works not, but BELIEVES on Him that Justifies the ungodly, His FAITH is counted as righteousness. Romans 4:5. Jesus emphasised the simplicity of receiving the Gift of Eternal Life. Verily Verily, I say onto you, he who BELIEVES in ME HAS EVERLASTING LIFE. John 6:47. Believing the Gospel, saves us! Nothing added. This is the best news! THE GOOD NEWS! To whosoever will believe in the testimony of His Son. ❤❤❤ We ALL willfully sin! Actually ALL sin is willful. See the apostle Paul's analysis on his sinful condition in Romans 7. None of us can ever stand in our own righteousness, before God. Our righteousness is Only In Christ! Not in our failing attempts to keep the Law and Commandments. But now the righteousness of God without the Law is manifest being witnessed BY THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ. Onto ALL and upon all them that BELIEVE for there is no difference. For ALL HAVE SINNED and come short of the Glory of God. Being Justified FREELY BY HIS GRACE THROUGH THE REDEMPTION THAT IS IN CHRIST JESUS. Romans 3:21-28. Grace Alone, gives God ALL THE GLORY. ❤👍👑 All who call upon Jesus Christ shall be saved. Blessings and kindest regards David from Australia. 🌏 🙄☝️

[@davidn3843]

This is great stuff, mate. I'm thankful beyond description for the MATCHLESS finished work of Jesus Christ. It's difficult to just accept His finished work, yet it's simple faith. People rail against the Gospel of His Grace and Love, even we who believe are told to strive to enter into His promised rest. That's what it feels like, striving. Great explanations. Thanks for your kind encouragement. Blessings and kindest regards David from Australia. 🌏 🙄☝️

[@myflourishingfam]

Thanks for the encouragement and I'm glad it was helpful! Absolutely, the more I see His grace clearly, the more blown away I am. I have a few friends in Australia too. Great place, I've been there before. God bless bro!

[@davidn3843]

@myflourishingfam It's a nice part of the world to live Are you in Canada?

[@davidn3843]

@myflourishingfam I'm not sure if you moderate your wall, but there are some downright mean people who are accusing people of not being saved and pulling down people. Saying Grace is a licence for sin and just nasty crap. It's a minority element, but it's not nice. I got a bit defensive after about a dozen comments, myself. Just thought I'd let you know.

[@Jason7707]

Outstanding video brother Adam. I hope y’all are well ❤️🙏👊

[@KeltsKey]

I wish I could like this multiple times. May God bless you and your family, brother.

[@StalkedHuman]

They love to hear what they want to hear. Senseless

[@KeltsKey]

@ What a charming display of arrogance and dismissal without giving any reason for it. I mean, why engage in a conversation that seeks to understand something you disagree with when you can just lump people into a category of “they” and go “tsk tsk”.

[@StalkedHuman]

@@KeltsKey good point now I'll justify. They is the greatest majority doing this exactly. So you pretend it's not applicable by default but it probably is. And your reaction is noted meanwhile you feel so injured and really triggered but when I have an issue of offense you give no quarter. And what grievance do I raise? *200 billion

[@myflourishingfam]

Thank you! God bless as well!

[@myflourishingfam]

@@StalkedHuman Actually, the majority of the Christian world (aside from Catholics) falls under either Arminianism (Pentecostal/Charismatic) or Cavanist (Reformed) theology, both of which teach works as essential to get to heaven. They come at it from different angles, Calvanists to prove theyre saved and Arminians to keep their salvation, but both require works, and they are the vast majority of Protestants. It appeals to the flesh in that it either feeds pride ("I'm doing good enough to get into heaven") or plays off fear ("God, I need to do more to know I'm saved because I don't feel like it and Jesus will tell me He doesn't know me."). Preaching works will appeal to people on those fronts. To preach grace alone is an assult to our pride, and requires humility to accept. If you walk away thinking, "I get to sin now" it means you really didn't understand it because grace teaches us to turn from sin (Titus 2:11-12). People who truly understand grace are transformed by it towards being like Christ.

[@lawsonpridgen7968]

Thank you my Brother. You answered my prayer. Thank you Bubba.

[@myflourishingfam]

I'm happy it helped! God bless you!

[@MikeHensley-v2k]

Awesome 👍

[@RobertMclaren68]

Self righteous pride & fear are 2 sides of the same coin. Fear is having faith in death rather than life. People must understand the concept that when we believe the gospel our spirit is made eternally alive and does not sin but we still have our old body of corrupt flesh...including our minds...whos very nature is sin. Once we grasp this truth that we now have 2 natures at war within ourselves until the redemption of our bodies we can actually make progress in our walk. Seeing ourselves baptized into Christs death and knowing His imputed righteousness is the fulcrum to maturity and renewal of our minds as we grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus and what is His glorious inheritance in the saints. We don't need to be in fear nor is there any room for pride....we're completely free & filled with inexpressible peace & joy as we rest and abide in Christ in full assurance of faith! Blessings bro! ✌️🙏✝️

[@myflourishingfam]

Amen!

[@PutGodfirst129]

John 14:10-12: Jesus says that those who believe in him will also do the works he does, and even greater works

[@rozznel8692]

● *"work/s"* - some examples: ○ *work of faith* 1-Thess 1^3 ○ *works of the flesh* Gal 5^19-21 (compare Rev 2^22) ○ *work of ministry* (plant, water): 1-Cor 3^5-15 ○ *works of the (Jewish) law* Rom 3^28-29 (compare: Eph 2^9-15 & Php 3^4-9) ○ *the works of Abraham* Jn 8^39 (see also: Gen 26^5) ○ *works meet for repentance* Ac 26^20 (Lk 3^8-14) ○ *the first works* Rev 2^5 ○ *good work/s* Rom 2^7, Eph 2^10, Titus 2^14, Heb 10^24 ○ *My works* Rev 2^26 ● to them indeed\on-one-hand seeking glory and honour and immortality by endurance of good work eternal life: - Rom 2^7 (the apostle Paul) ~KJV•Marshall•Young•Nestle

[@LeviKaldahl]

Matthew 10:28 “Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the one who can destroy both soul and body in hell”. This one verse proves that fear of hell is not the opposite of faith. FEAR of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom! It’s not pride but rather the opposite. We realize we are sinful and must “make every effort” to obey. Salvation is not possible without Jesus sacrifice. That does not give us a license to sin all we want. Saying we believe and actually believing are 2 separate things. If we know others by their fruits we can also recognize ourselves by our fruits.

[@myflourishingfam]

There is absolutely a difference between a professor of Christ and a posessor of Christ, and while fruits can show us His hand in our lives, Christians can still choose to live below that and you won't see Christ through them. 1 Cor 3:1-3 Paul told the Christians there that they were living just like unbelievers in the world, after telling them they were saved (1 Cor 1:2, 7-8) and going in the rapture (1 Cor 15:51-52). They had a massive rebuke, but didn't loose their salvation.

[@LeviKaldahl]

@ you can’t take just one part of the Bible and claim that’s all you need. You need to read the Bible in its entirety to understand it. Trying to sum up the entire Bible in one phrase “faith alone” that’s not even in the Bible is dangerous.

[@2Chronicles714_]

@myflourishingfam Are you saying a true believer can live no different than the world and yet still enter the kingdom of God?

[@lchimenz]

Excellent video sir. I have seen a very sharp increase in fools who constantly use James 2 to prove we have to do good works. They don't see that James wasn't speaking of the GIFT Eternal life through faith alone.

[@2Chronicles714_]

In a nutshell James 2:14-26 says we are saved by Faith and not works however we are not saved unless our Faith works. A dead faith means it ceases to exist.

[@lchimenz]

​@@2Chronicles714_ The Greek word "argos" means (idle, lazy, thoughtless, unprofitable, injurious) which is the word dead in English. Basically James was saying if aren't doing any good works you are useless. Never is it implied you have to do any works except one to be saved... Jesus in John 6:28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”

[@2Chronicles714_]

@lchimenz In short IF there is no evidence of your faith then it's not faith. 1 Peter 1:7 So that the tested genuineness of your faith-more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire-may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

[@lchimenz]

@@2Chronicles714_ The Greek word "argos" means (idle, lazy, thoughtless, unprofitable, injurious) which is the word dead in English. Basically James was saying if aren't doing any good works you are useless. Never is it implied you have to do any works except one to be saved... Jesus in John 6:28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”

[@2Chronicles714_]

@@lchimenz No works to be saved. True repentant believers most definitely are to do works to the glory of God.

[@LeviKaldahl]

Just have faith AND works. Don’t risk playing with hellfire.

[@gregorylatta8159]

If you don't trust in Jesus alone, you will go to the lake of fire 🔥

[@LeviKaldahl]

@ I do trust in Jesus alone lol

[@LeviKaldahl]

Jesus said to be perfect

[@gregorylatta8159]

​@@LeviKaldahlElaborate on what that exactly means.

[@LeviKaldahl]

@ it’s pretty clear. Don’t think you can just do whatever you want. Jesus never said sinning is ok. He was against people “honoring him with their lips but having their hearts far from him”. Faith and obedience and works go together.

[@PutGodfirst129]

Matthew 7:19 … Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. “And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭3‬:‭10‬ ‭KJV‬‬ We are His workmanship created in Christ Jesus unto good works. And our works shall follow us if we believe.

[@YakmonSaysItLikeItIs]

Galatians 3:24-25 King James Version 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. Romans 10:4 King James Version 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

[@michaelvoss939]

Anything from someone other than Paul?

[@nickaldrich-mn]

@@michaelvoss939 Why would that matter? Do you reject Paul's letters as scripture? Peter thinks Paul's writings are scripture.

[@michaelvoss939]

@@nickaldrich-mn No I’m just looking for cross references of what Paul is saying. Say maybe Jesus preferably.

[@CharlesJones-bu5hk]

Gal 2:16 Eph 2:8-9 Romans 3:19-20

[@fanman8102]

Interesting. How many times does the Scriptures say you must “believe and obey” to be saved? At least 76 times. Yes, I counted them. I am against “works” as in fundamentalism however there is no escape from what Jesus said, ie Matthew 28:19-20, Luke 6:46-49, John 14:15, and John 15:9-10

[@myflourishingfam]

Matt 28:19-20 is the great commission, not how to be/stay saved. It's a command for His disciples of what their mission is. Luke 6:46-49 is not about how to get or stay saved. It's what God wants His children to do, how He wants them to live. Living by His commands is wise, not doing so is foolish (obviously). Is your child your child because they obey you? Is it foolish for a child to ignore their parents guidance, commands, and instructions? Are they still your child if they don't? John 15:9-10 is a promise that if we love Him and keep His commands, we remain in His love. It doesn't say to remain saved. If your child obeys your commands, do they remain your child or remain in your love (good fellowship)? John 14:15 if you love Him, keep His commands. Absolutely. Nothing in that verse is about salvation, but rather what to do AS a saved person. Spend time with Him and you'll love Him. We're saved by faith (trust) in what He did for us. Love for Him comes out of that as we grow in our faith. *Salvation means to be saved/safe/secure, discipleship means being a student/pupil/learner.* Discern these differences and you won't end up mixing works with faith for salvation: Salvation is a free gift, discipleship is costly. Salvation cost Jesus, discipleship costs us. Salvation is a one time event, discipleship is a lifelong process. Salvation results in eternal life, discipleship results in rewards and authority. Salvation results in justification, discipleship results in sanctification (in our daily walk, positionally we’re sanctified by Christ Eph 5:25-26). Salvation has one condition, discipleship has multiple conditions. Salvation is not by works, discipleship does involve works. Salvation is what God does for us, discipleship is what God does through us. Failing to discern these things leads people mix them into a works-based gospel.

[@StalkedHuman]

When people are equal in behavior as the unbeliever, their faith is false but measure is substantiated.

[@myflourishingfam]

The Corinthians were living just like unbelievers. 1 Cor 3:1-3 "And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?" Nearly all of 1 Cor (chapters 1-15) is a giant rebuke for their sin, carnality, and heretical teaching. Yet Paul affirmed they were saved (1 Cor 1:2, 7-8) and going in the rapture (1 Cor 15:51-52). Sometimes believers walk like the world, which they absolutely should not, but it doesn't negate their saved status.

[@StalkedHuman]

@myflourishingfam oh death where is your sting? The carnal who are envious and spiteful are going to hell. When the upright rebuke the sinful it is not out of envy but the carnal feel otherwise. This is what they call the great apostasy. They come in the name but are not known. Do you see?

[@davidn3843]

@@StalkedHuman Our behaviour doesn't keep us from hell. Being in Christ keeps us from hell. The moment we believe the Gospel, we receive Christ into us. He in us and us in Him. FOREVER. Our sins are no longer held to our account. We are Crucified with Christ and it's no longer I that live but Christ that lives in me and the life I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God who loved me and gave himself for me. We are Graciously saved from the wrath of hell, when we have simply placed our trust in Jesus. He remembers our sin no more. 🙄☝️🙏🙏🙏

[@StalkedHuman]

@@davidn3843 and if your faith is beast mode it's not faith. Can't reason with the faithless

[@davidn3843]

@@StalkedHuman Can't reason with the self-righteous, don't you mean. 🤔☝️ Christ's work of redemption was all encompassing. Thats why He says, where sin abounds GRACE MUCH MORE ABOUNDS. Grace isn't a licence licence to sin. Grace is our means for rest and assurance, for friutful Godly living. That's what the scripture says. I'm ot sure why you are getting so grubby about it all. God is Love, mate. And, He's very, very good.

[@highcompressionhead7940]

Could you do something on Babylon? My Friend thinks the USA is physical Babylon.

[@myflourishingfam]

The original Babylon or spiritual/figurative?

[@highcompressionhead7940]

@myflourishingfam Figurative. He believes USA is the actual Babylon in Revelation.

[@Eliminton]

I believe this currently, lest I'm proven otherwise as I've prayed for a humble heart: It's both works + faith alone as well as faith alone. It's both. Not both work + faith, but work + faith and faith alone. Sounds paradoxical but it's not. On the level of the Spirit of God, we're saved through faith alone. On the level of the flesh, we must love God through our devotion to him as well as have faith in Him. I was essentially Protestant and just stayed sinning and suffering in depression while telling myself Jesus saved me over when obviously that wasn't the case. It took actual intent and work, which was all through God, yet it took alignment with God on the level of the flesh to do that.

[@myflourishingfam]

We're saved by grace through faith, not of ourselves, it's a gift from God (Eph 2:8-9). Salvation itself is a gift no one can earn or deserve, or qualify for on the basis of our peformance. We're children of God by faith (Gal 3:26) in Christ Jesus. As we grow and mature in Him, we head down the path of discipleship. Being saved is being justified freely by faith in Christ's death and resurrection for us (Gal 3:24, 1 Cor 15:1-4). If you don't discern salvation from discipleship, we end up in a faith+works system: Salvation means to be saved/safe/secure, discipleship means being a student/pupil/learner. Salvation is a free gift, discipleship is costly. Salvation cost Jesus, discipleship costs us. Salvation is a one time event, discipleship is a lifelong process. Salvation results in eternal life, discipleship results in rewards and authority. Salvation results in justification, discipleship results in practical sanctification (in our daily walk, positionally we’re sanctified by Christ Eph 5:25-26). Salvation has one condition, discipleship has multiple conditions. Salvation is not by works, discipleship does involve works. Salvation is what God does for us, discipleship is what God does through us. Failing to discern these things leads people mix them into a works-based gospel.

[@Eliminton]

@@myflourishingfam I consider salvation to be freedom and an entering into the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth. Notice how everything you're saying is from Paul, who was speaking from the spirit, not the flesh. When you are speaking from the flesh, you need works. Hence Jesus saying: Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." John 9:4 "I must work the works of Him who sent Me while it is day; the night is coming when no one can work." Luke 6:46-49 "But why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' and not do the things which I say? Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like: He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently against that house, and could not shake it, for it was founded on the rock." Revelation 2:23 "And all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works." I used to believe it was only faith alone. It's not and it is. It's faith alone on the level of our Spirit - as Paul speaks from, hence him saying in one verse he is a wicked sinner, that is him speaking from flesh, yet later going on to say he and all of us are righteous. Jesus was speaking to those of us in the flesh: do works to align your flesh with the spirit and die to your flesh which doesn't want to do works. So I still believe it is both. On the level of the flesh, we must first have faith then do works. On the level of Spirit of God, which is in all of us and is what observes our thoughts and is known in scientific terms as consciousness, all it takes is faith and no works at all.

[@YakmonSaysItLikeItIs]

Romans 3:23-28 King James Version 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

[@myflourishingfam]

I love that passage, especially verse 24. I forgot to mention it. God bless!

[@paulwheeler4014]

Seventh Day Adventists are reliant on observing the sabbath as a requirement to be saved. Salvation is like a "on and off light switch".

[@myflourishingfam]

It's so easy to fall into a works-based mindset

[@StalkedHuman]

No one is proving that they're saved. Thats not what is going on. Where is death's sting?

[@sunshineandsmiles9668]

Jesus said follow me, He also told us to make disciples. We can serve our king to bring others to the kingdom without being prideful. We can feed those that hunger for food or His bread, the word of God. We are called to love our neighbors as our self. Many are called to preach as you are doing. Jesus also said to do our Father's will. These are all works. There are more options then pride or fear for our desire to work. I serve Him because I love him. I judge no one for choosing not to work. I urge them for their own faith increase. I am not Him however I am His. It is finished yes. However I have a bible that was created from men working to produce it. All those seed planters that brought my mind to Christ was works. Service to the kingdom does not equal salvation however the good news still is because of disciple's service to our King. Look at your works in this video. You cannot earn a gift. You can however never receive it, as you mentioned which some work to explain to others their error to deny Him. Shalom

[@myflourishingfam]

I agree that we should work for Him, and as you said when you know God more, you love Him more and are inspired to do more for Him. Now God can use you more because you love Him and are willing. You can work without pride. The point is that when people believe that they need works to enter heaven, they enter a works-based mindset and either end up afraid that they haven't done enough, OR prideful that they're doing well.

[@YakmonSaysItLikeItIs]

Galatians 3:1-14 King James Version 3 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? 4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. 5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. 7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. 9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

[@vkboyauthor]

Their lips praise him, but their hearts are far from him. What does this mean? You say you have faith, but you have nothing to prove it. What proves faith? Your works. That's why in the bible, it says, 'show your faith without works, and I will show my faith with my works.' The point here is not that works save you, but works prove our faith, which means Christ will be our advocate on the Judgment day. If you don't obey Jesus' commands, he will say he don't know you on the judgment day. How much should you obey? As much as you can. It's a daily process of repentance from your sins, which pleases God as you're trying to be better than yesterday. God knows your heart. Faith without works is dead. How can dead faith save you? Don't be fooled into thinking you read bible every day, so you'll get saved. It's not about what you say, but what you do that matters. Lord will judge our EVERY EMPTY WORD in the end. If you said all your life that you love christ, but never did any good work in his name, and even stumbled to show your faith, what does that make you? We're all imperfect, which is why God wants to perfect us through faith, through tribulations. In this life, we will have to suffer for Christ. If the Master gets crucified, then how much more his servants? To put it short, faith and works cannot exist without one another. Works without faith won't get you to heaven as we're never qualified because only Christ can wash our sins. And faith without works is dead and is never faith to begin with. So, if you have real faith, then your works will show yourself and the world who you are. We ought to be lights in this world, and lights are supposed to shine, not through words but through actions. Our good works here will later get us rewards in heaven, but it is our faith and our love for Christ, which isn't earn but gifted to us by God himself who chose us, that will give us eternal life. So, all glory goes to Him in the end. Our works are also because of his love and mercy. We're alive because of his love and mercy. So, a true christian will never have pride in his works because he/she knows that it's God who allows them to breathe, and it is the Heavenly Father who giveth and taketh away.

[@RobertMclaren68]

If works do not save us in the first place then it's completely illogical to look to works as proof a person is saved...the only "proof" there is a person is saved is by the fruit of their lips which is their testimony concerning Christ. We who have believed that Jesus died to pay for our sin and was raised for our justification are complete in Christ. We must get justification down before we can discuss what we should do afterwards.

[@vkboyauthor]

@@RobertMclaren68 How is it illogical? I give you a gift. You use it well, or you misuse it. If you use it well, you get to heaven. If you don't, then you are not getting into heaven. God, by default, offered salvation to all those who believe. Here belief comes not from lips but from heart. If you say you love christ, but do nothing that befits your claims, then you're only deluding yourself. How will Christ defend you before the Heavenly Father on Judgment day when you only confessed through your lips and never repented? The bible doesn't preach you don't have to repent. Even in the last days, angels will come and tell people to repent from their sins, but the people won't. Christ died for a purpose. If you think you can just cheat your way into heaven by saying you love Christ but don't do the things he tell you to do, then you're only fooling yourself. Christ clearly told us... if you love me, obey my commands... which are, love God and love your neighbor as yourself. He didn't tell you keep uttering that Christ is God. God doesn't want lip-service. He hates long prayers, made with pretense. Again, I'm telling you works and faith can't exist apart from each other. So, your claim of being illogical never had any logic to begin with. Faith saves us, no doubt, but not dead faith. True faith is proven by works, so works are necessary for proof, not for anything else, so you can't boast about them. A person who does one good work in Christ's name can get to heaven just like someone who did a thousand good works. Both are qualified for salvation as their faith isn't fake. I hope you get my point. God doesn't want fakes in heaven. He want genuine people, however small or big they maybe. Otherwise, his death was in vain. Heaven rejoices over one sinner that repents and comes to the Lord.... Why? Because he said he loves Christ but keeps on doing things that shame Christ? No. It's because 'repentance' is evident through his lifestyle.... which leads to Christ coming and living in that person. Anyway, let's pray that God give us the wisdom to understand his word better.

[@michaelvoss939]

Works are more than physical events. The every day battle with sin is works my friend.

[@myflourishingfam]

A Christian can have pride in their works, as a Christian can sin in many other ways. Faith means trust. When you trust in the finished work of Christ, you have faith in it. We are saved by faith/trust. God knows if you really trust in Him or not. He doesn't need to see works, because He already knows. Should we persue good works? Absolutely. Do they vindicate us before God? No, but before man. James 2 is about being justified before others. "Show ME your faith without works..." Not show God, but man. Works justify us before man, just as the examples of Abraham and Rahab showed. We are justified vertically with God by faith (Rom 4:4-5), and horizontally before man by works (James 2). Faith without works is dead, just as a body without a spirit (James 2:26). Just as a spirit invigorates a body that exists, so works invigorate a faith that exists. A body without a spirit is not non-existant, but practically useless in this world. Likewise, faith without works is practically useless in this world if it doesn't produce works. Do they trust in Christ for salvation? Yes, but are they allowing God to use them by stepping out in faith? No. We are saved FOR good works, not BY good works (Eph 2:10).

[@vkboyauthor]

@ We are saved by faith through grace. God's grace is what qualifies us, but how does it qualify? God will separate the sheep and the goats. How? He will judge everyone by their works. Our sins are blotted out if we believe in Christ, but that doesn't mean we can keep sinning. By default, if we believe in Christ, we will be fruitful through our works. That's how you can tell apart from the sheep from the goats, by their fruits. So, I don't get why you keep saying that works don't matter. Works LITERALLY prove your faith. If you don't feed your poor brother but only say 'be full and happy,' do you think you're pleasing God? You ought to be holy through actions, not words. Each and every person's sanctification process is the proof that Holy Spirit is working in us. Our works are credited not just to us but to God as well. Anyway, I can keep saying this, but the main point is, faith and works go together. Faith itself is a work of sorts, but of course, it is God who chooses us, not of ourselves. So, the major credit goes to him.

[@jacobbrown4516]

So is it bad that I don't want to give up hobbies that I enjoy? Like gaming and other nerdy things? When I first believed the Gospel I started watching a bunch of sermons on KZbin. People like Paul Washer, John Piper, Vodie Baucham, John MacArthur, Ray Comfort, etc. All of them (especially Washer) condemned secular music and videogames, and other such things. Look, I'm a big nerd. I like videogames, some anime, cult classic movies (meaning older cheesy movies from the 80s and 90s), D&D, etc. I'm also a bit of a metal head too. I'd always hear from so many different preachers that these things were evil and a true Christian should never do these things, and if you do then you may not be a legitimate Christian. I do struggle a lot with anger, lust, and laziness, but I believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God who died on the cross for my sins, was buried, and rose again the third day according to the scriptures. Sometimes I'm afraid. Sometimes I doubt. If I'm being honest, If the Lord were to come back today I would be afraid. I feel like he'd be angry with me, but Then whenever I watch videos like yours or other grace teachers it puts my heart at ease. THAT right there is the Holy Spirit confirming that I am His. Yet... I have no desire top go to church. It's really hard for me to pick up my bible and read it (because in the past every time I did I would only feel fear and condemnation), and I don't pray that much. Yet I see this world, and I see everything that everyone else is worried about or focused on and I just think to myself "why bother"? Everything here is temporary. It's all going to pass away. There's nothing new under the sun. I mean I myself have my own desires and dreams here on this earth. I wanna own some land, build a cabin, meet someone, fall madly in love with her, marry her, and have a family of my own one day, but at the end of the day I'm wondering if that's even something I should concern myself with. I'm my own worst critic. I tend to always look at my own shortcomings and failures. I'm quick to point out the negative aspects of myself. Most of the time I think to myself what woman would wanna be with a loser like me? But anyway I'm being sappy. Idk why I rambled like I did. Maybe I'm just word vomiting or just getting something off my chest, Idk. God bless you all!

[@myflourishingfam]

Hey! The more you're grounded in God's grace, the more God will transform you (Titus 2:11-12). You're His child by faith, not works. Gal 3:26 "For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus." We're saved by faith, not faithfulness. As you grow in Christ and fall in love with God more and more, you won't be ashamed at His return but be confident and excited! Not wanting to go to church is the flesh (and sometimes demonic influences as well). Some churches are boring too lol but find a good church and make the effort. It's worth it. Also make time for God throughout the day. Start with 5 min a day and build on that! Struggling with sin doesn't mean you aren't saved. God wants your heart. He wants you to trust in Him, in what He did for you on the cross. If you did that, you're saved. Faith is trust. You trust that He paid the price in full for your sins and will raise you up again after death. The gospel is 1 Cor 15:1-4. It sounds like many of the preachers you listed are Calvanist/Reformed, who believe that God chooses who to save and who not to, and that you must endure in good works to prove you're one of the elect. There are some things I'm sure they teach well, but since they get the core of salvation wrong I'd distance myself from that crowd. I'm glad to hear you listen to grace teachers! As long as they don't go into what's called licensiousness/hypergrace ("do what you want, God's OK with sin"). Some I've really learned a lot from are Oronato Diamante, Andy Woods, Charlie Bing, Charles Ryrie, and Thomas Stegall. Check them out on KZbin, they're great. Don't worry about hobbies, etc. If a game/movie, etc has bad, sinful content, then I encourage you not to keep it. Take it to God sincerely and He'll help you. I like games and movies too, but God has changed my heart the more time I spend with Him and I don't want the bad stuff anymore. He's not against you having likes and passions, but don't let them take His place at the center of your heart and make sure they're not contrary to Him. Dreams are fine, but put them in His hands. Be about His work, getting to know Him and living for Him, serving Him, and He'll bring these things in time. I'm speaking from experience! God bless!!

[@EveryTongue]

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[@LeviKaldahl]

Jesus said Take up your cross daily. Metaphorically Crucify your own flesh daily. That doesn’t mean speaking but action. Even the act of faith or pronouncing faith is technically a work anyway.

[@myflourishingfam]

That's a passage about discipleship. Being saved is trusting in the finished work of Christ, while the definition of being a disciple means to be a student, learner or pupil. As you mature in Christ you'll naturally head in the direction of discipleship, but not all believers actively persue that. Salvation is free, discipleship is costly. Salvation cost Jesus, discipleship costs us. Salvation is justification, discipleship is about sanctification. Salvation is what God does for us, discipleship is what we do for God. Salvation happens in an instant, discipleship happens over a lifetime. Salvation results in eternal life, discipleship results in rewards and authority.

[@LeviKaldahl]

@ what do you think “strive to enter the narrow gate means”? Strive means to “try”. Trying to enter a narrow gate implies that something is not easy. It’s insanely easy to claim you have faith in Christ but much much harder to actually go all out trying to be obedient to him because you have real faith.

[@LeviKaldahl]

@ I’m not trying to trip you up. Just asking because so much of the Bible is being left out when you just say “I believe” without any conviction and fruits to prove it to yourself and God. Faith, obedience and works is what the Bible mentions over and over not just plain faith. Words don’t seem mean much if there’s no action behind them.

[@shanefox6016]

@@LeviKaldahl Struve to enter the narrow gate isn’t asking to do works to gain or keep salvation. It is pointing to what many don’t do because they want to play a part in their salvation. Those that enter the narrow gate are the born again believers as a result in their saving faith(trust alone) in Christ. To say one’s works determine their salvation is like saying one deserves salvation because they have earned it. God doesn’t want your performance. He wants you to trust in Him and His finished work on the cross. It is then you can be filled with the Holy Spirit, who then produces works through you as a result of saving faith!

[@LeviKaldahl]

@ faith and baptism is playing a part in your salvation. It’s something you are doing. Otherwise people who reject Christ are saved. Many people will call him lord lord but are not saved. Ain’t no one who is not a believer calling Jesus lord and doing works in his name. Y’all leading people astray.

[@jerkojerkic9349]

With OSAS you are not saved to begin with. This is a complete lie to make you have false sense of security while you are living in sin. You need God's Spirit and discerment of the scripture. You cannot come here and say what you think about scripture or even what it means if you do not have a discerment from God. Lean not on your own understanding and please don't listen other people and their explainations of the scripture because they also may be in error. 1 Chorintians 2:11-15 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? Even so no man knoweth the things of God, but the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God, that we might know the things that are freely given to us by God. 13 These things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness unto him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged by no man.

[@myflourishingfam]

A person is saved by believing the gosepl of Jesus Christ. Belief means trust. You don't simply say some words or acknowledge Jesus, you trust in what He did for us on the cross. At that point, God seals you with the Holy Spirit until when? The day of redemption (Eph 4:30). His sealing of you is His active will, which cannot be undone (Rev 3:7). He owns you once you choose Him because He pays for you with the blood of Jesus and you are not your own anymore (1 Cor 6:19-20). That doesn't mean you don't have free will, but you can't undo what's been done. Children have free will but can never undo the fact that they're their parent's child.

[@jerkojerkic9349]

@myflourishingfam Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? 47Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: 48He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. 49But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.

[@cullenbentley9880]

your wrong and heres why...you call God a liar cause he said he is the one who keeps our salvation not us...God said all he gave Jesus that NONE would be lost.....Jesus said we shall NEVER perish......scripture says we have everlasting life and eternal life...not temporary or conditional...........ETERNAL LIFE IS ETERNAL. It is NOT “life until you sin again.” The believer “is passed from death unto life.” (John 5:24). SALVATION IS A “BY BIRTH” SITUATION. A birth cannot be undone or reversed. “Once born, always born, SALVATION (ETERNAL LIFE) IS A FREE GIFT. It is not something that is earned or can be deserved. Works earn “rewards,” not salvation. Romans 5:15-18, 6:23; Eph. 2:8,9; 1 Corinthians 3:11-15. SALVATION IS BASED UPON HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS, NOT OURS. Philippians 3:9 and 2 Corinthians 5:21 teach that it is Christ’s righteousness that is imputed to our account. Romans 8:33. WE ARE KEPT BY THE POWER OF GOD. 1 Peter 1:4,5 teaches this. If it is God’s power that keeps us, who is stronger or more powerful than God? JESUS IS HOLDING US IN HIS HAND. John 10:28. We are not holding onto God; He is holding onto us! WE SHALL NEVER COME INTO CONDEMNATION OR JUDGMENT. John 5:24 teaches us this. As in John 3:16 and John 10:28 wherein we are told we will NEVER PERISH. In John 11:25 wherein Jesus said the believer will “NEVER DIE,” here we are told the believer will “NEVER COME INTO CONDEMNATION.” WE HAVE ALREADY PASSED FROM DEATH UNTO LIFE. Now get this. According to John 5:24, THE BELIEVER SHALL NEVER DIE. In John 11:25 Jesus said to Martha that “whoever lives and believes in me shall NEVER die.” JESUS SAID HE WOULD NOT CAST US OUT. As in Hebrews 13:5 wherein Jesus said He would never leave us nor forsake us, He tells us in John 6:37 He will never cast us out. JESUS WILL LOSE NOTHING (THAT INCLUDES US). John 6:39 tells us that Jesus will lose nothing WE ARE “JUSTIFIED” (DECLARED RIGHTEOUS) BY FAITH. When it is God who does the justifying, that is all we need. Romans 5:1 teaches us that it is because we are justified by faith that we have “peace with God.” WE ARE SEALED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT. When it is God who does the sealing, man cannot break the seal. THE HOLY SPIRIT IS OUR “EARNEST. (GUARANTEE) OF OUR INHERITANCE. GOD SAYS WE CAN KNOW WE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. We are taught in I John 5:13 that the believer can “KNOW” that he has eternal life. EVEN IF WE ARE FAITHLESS, GOD REMAINS FAITHFUL FOR HE CANNOT DENY HIMSELF. 2 Timothy 2:13 We are “in Christ” once we have believed. For Him to deny us, He would have to deny Himself. NOBODY (INCLUDING SATAN) CAN LAY ANYTHING TO OUR CHARGE. If God declares us righteous, who is Satan to say otherwise? Romans 8:33. NOTHING CAN SEPARATE US FROM GOD’S LOVE. Romans 8:37-39 teaches this clearly. “Nothing” certainly includes our sin. THE GIFTS AND CALLINGS OF GOD ARE WITHOUT REPENTANCE. Romans 11:29 Nobody can argue that salvation is not a gift. SALVATION IS NEVER BASED ON WORKS SO HOW COULD ONE LOSE IT BY EVEN BAD WORKS? Verses like Ephesians 2:8,9, Titus 3:5, Romans 3:28, 4:5, 11:6, and Galatians 2:16 all clearly teach the receiving of salvation apart from works. THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH THAT SALVATION CAN BE LOST. While there are numerous verses that some THAT TRY to use to teach that salvation can be lost, there are no verses that say such a thing.

[@cullenbentley9880]

more proof...........if you and I could lose God's free gift of salvation (which is by faith alone in the Gospel): 1. God would have to pass us back from life unto death. John 5:24, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” 2. God would have to take back His free gift of eternal life, making Him a liar. Ephesians 2:8-9, “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” 3. God would have to remove us spiritually from being seated with Christ in heavenly places. Ephesians 2:6, “And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:” 4. God would have to "un-join" us from Christ. Ephesians 4:16, “From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.” 5. God would have to "un-wash" us from the blood of Jesus that already washed me (1st Corinthians 6:9-11; Revelation 1:5). 1st John 1:7, “But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.” 6. God would have to "un-seal" us from the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 1:13-14, “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.” 7. God would have to impute our sins back to us, which He has already imputed to Jesus Christ by faith. Romans 4:5-6, “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,” 8. God would have to restore our sins, no longer removed as far as the east is from the west. Psalms 103:12, “As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.” 9. God would have to remember our sins again, which He had previously forgotten. Isaiah 43:25, “I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins.” 10. God would have to break His own covenant He made with His Son and therefore would make Him a liar. Ezekiel 16:8, “Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine.” 11. God would have to "un-adopt" us as His child. Romans 8:15, “For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.” 12. God would have to leave and forsake us, even though He promised to never do so. Hebrews 13:5, “Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.” 13. God would have to "pluck us" out from His own hand, which He has already promised that nothing could ever do! John 10:28: “And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.” 14. God would have to take back the free gift of eternal life that He has already given to us by faith. Romans 6:23, “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” 15. God would have to “undo” the righteousness that He has already imputed to you and me by faith. Romans 4:6, “Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,” 16. God would have to fail to raise us up on the last day, going back on His solemn promise to do so. John 6:40, “ And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.” 17. God would have to fail in completing the “good work” in us, that He has already promised to perform. Philippians 1:6, “Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:” 18. God would have to ignore the prayers of His Son on our behalf, Who intercedes for us as believers. John 17:9, “I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.” 19. The Holy Spirit would have to stop making intercession for us when we pray. Romans 8:26. “Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.” 20. Jesus would have to stop being our heavenly High Priest. Hebrews 7:25, “Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.” 21. It would mean that salvation is really a reward and not a free gift, since we must do something to keep it. Romans 3:19-20, “Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.” 22. It would mean that we are no longer married to Christ. 2nd Corinthians 11:2, “For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.” 23. It would mean that no believer can rejoice with 100% confidence that our name is written in Heaven, because we might lose it. Luke 10:20, “Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.” 24. It would cause every believer to live in fear, worry and uncertainty, never knowing if we are truly saved. 1st John 5:13, “These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.” 25. The entire Bible would have to be written to retain God's integrity. The Gospel of John teaches us simply to BELIEVE to be saved. If salvation could be lost because of sin, unfaithfulness or any other reason, for the man that BELIEVES, then God lied