A&E Crisis as Patients Wait Up to 50 Hours for Treatment

[@sueo7834]

I can’t understand why they don’t bring back the convalescent homes...They never used to be short of beds then 🧐🤔

[@robertcreighton4635]

There are convalescent homes, but they are private or run by charities. My dad was in one last February. Should be under the umbrella of the NHS or social services. It's a joke

[@dancefun-o4r]

I agree 100%.

[@TreesRgreen123]

Your wrong. They aint even seeing people straight away anymore with heart attacks etc. There has been numerous stories where an ambulance hasnt came out for them. Thats how scary the health sevice is now

[@NigelThompson-hb5jg]

Ex cabinet minister saying how fabulous the care for his mother was - the man has no insight at all.

[@stevec7876]

Her carer stayed with her? That is not a social service carer, it must be private. No wonder he supports labours delay to social services while they do another review, he doesn’t need help. An elite socialist, he’s alright Jack, he doesn’t care about working class white girls either.

[@am5783]

I had the flu over the Christmas period, lasted like 2 weeks maybe. Got so bad my temperature was at 40, I couldn't keep food down, couldnt walk or stand up and I was really out of it. My friend tried to convince me to go to a&e but im glad I just rode it out at home, being in that environment for 50 hours wouldve probably made me feel way worse. Why anybody would go to a noisy overcrowded hectic place full of illnesses for silly things like a cut knee or whatever is beyond me.

[@bunglejoy3645]

Because you're desperate ie if your mental health is very bad how else do you get crisis help and a 16 hour wait can then lead to seriously mentally ill getting out of hand at a+e not excusing peoples behaviour but where do you go I refuse now to go to a+e for mental health

[@felixscamp]

I’m going to live in coronation st, you get the following::::see a doctor at the drop of a hat, ambulance within minutes, police the same, it’s amazing

[@cafsixtieslover]

Doctors used to be the same. I always thought Letherbridge would be a good place to be ill.

[@kulvindersingh9932]

To reduce the pressure on the NHS, the government should offer tax concessions to people who pay for private treatment. This is will ease the burden on waiting lists. Eg, go and see a private doctor, the cost should be on your tax return to be adjusted. Instead, private healthcare is considered a taxable perk, which in my opinion is morally wrong. Anything healthcare based should not be considered a perk, but rather a necessity.

[@85ABC]

Agree. Those that want to go private should do. Takes the pressure off

[@laurawalker1509]

My own fault but I fell off my skateboard and had a 12-hour wait through the night in 2022. They accidentally left me in the toilet in a wheelchair and I couldn't get out of the cubicle (I don't blame the nurse either, she was run off her feet). I am never getting on a skateboard again, anyway. It was a horrifying night seeing the suffering in the waiting room. It just makes me worry what would happen if I was older and in a life-threatening situation, or hurt in a serious accident.

[@profnostalgia_UK]

You can't turn the NHS round in one year. There's 14 year's worth of damage to repair.

[@neilgroves534]

If things carry on the way they are, we will lose the NHS.

[@thisisveryannoying]

I know recently graduated nurses who are very keen to join NHS, but cannot find a job as everywhere previous experience is expected. A friend of my daughter's is now working as a teaching assistant at school after failing to get an NHS employment. She was an excellent, hard-working student nurse. I don't understand this.

[@mjl2904]

I have heard from people in Public Health and they were saying that it costs roughly £500 for an ambulance just to come out to you. This amount is pre pandemic so add inflation. They also said a lot of people use an ambulance as transportation and there are ‘Ignore Lists’ for persistent callers. The suggestion was that if the individual had to cover the cost most people would use an uber/taxi, get a lift from spouse/family/friend. This would then leave the ambulance free for real emergencies

[@juliecrowe5252]

We have too many people in our country

[@joesoy9185]

If you were to emigrate, it would mean one less. At least it´s a start LOL.

[@juliecrowe5252]

@joesoy9185 I don't even travel abroad, I've paid taxes all my life , I've worked for nhs , we are actually in a situation we can't handle , we need to make sensible decisions

[@cherylmccloud8709]

👋from🇦🇺!Such an uneducated comment- (one might think you were American & MAGA Cult😂) .Do you have any idea of demographics for starters? Of UK's imbalanced birth & death ratio? UK's elderly are living longer & couples are having fewer children. In a very short period of time there will be insufficient tax $ from younger to middle generation to a/ pay taxes to support pensions & elderly care, or b/same level of hands on family volunteers to take on "carer role" of parents as has been a tradition.

[@jakeholland9502]

We have plenty of room but too meny older people. we will need to get lots of young people to pay taxes and look after us. Facts

[@jillybe1873]

It's more the problem of too many racist whingers.....the others are ok

[@lisaf7909]

I suspect the fact that GPS refuse to see patients face to face is the reason why many end up in A&E

[@jakeholland9502]

But thats not true is it.

[@lisaf7909]

@jakeholland9502 there was a young lady featured on this morning who was contually diagnosed over the phone as having endometriosis when in fact she had cancer. I spoke to one lady this morning who was fobbed off as having anxiety. She raised the funds for a private mri scan and a tumour was found on her spine.

[@stanugoh9871]

GPs are overwhelmed! You guys just don’t get it unfortunately

[@robertcreighton4635]

@lisaf7909 this happens almost every winter it's nothing new. Previous governments have done eff all I doubt keir will either

[@skest5382]

​@@stanugoh9871there overwhelmed because they have 3 doctors maby hire more its not rockets science lol😂 if your business is failing you have to change something not keep doing the same

[@AstroEssexGirl]

My mother died due to failures by a hospital in Essex back in 2015. They missed a heart attack even though her triponin levels and EKG showed a heart attack. They put her in a A&E room for 2 days, missed a further scan due to a miscommunication between doctors. She then had a big cardiac arrest and died as her heart muscles had been dying. I had to push for a post mortem and an inquest. The hospital had too many patients, not enough doctors. The doctors they did have were working past 18 hours a day. My mum was only 66

[@emmas3716]

Terrible 😞

[@craig3420]

14 years of tory decline...thats why..under blair and brown..the nhs was excellent

[@AlanHill-t8r]

Eight hospitals have declared critical incidents out of all the hospitals in the UK and it is winter what do you expect plus too many illegal immigrants getting NHS treatment for free 😮

[@85ABC]

There’s hardly any illegal immigrants in this country so I’m afraid that’s not right

[@AlanHill-t8r]

How strange who are all these people then who are living in hotels paid for by us taxpayers at the cost of 6million pounds a week

[@arod9998]

@@85ABCthere are groups of young men coming on boats here illegally every day 😂

[@pauljames2407]

You lot still have no idea , In Oct 2024 I had a heart attack & was told if I could make my own way to hospital as there was a 5 hour plus wait for an ambulance. When I arrived at A & E at 10:00am Monday morning it took nearly 9 hours to get a cubicle in A & E & a chair because there wasn’t a bed in the cubicle. I was finally admitted Tuesday night 36 hours after arriving. Crazy Wolverhampton health care

[@user-jz5bj8gz2h]

😮 this is shocking. Sorry for your experience. Hope your health is better now.

[@sharonsmith381]

We need more Hospitals

[@vishsola5174]

I’m an Australian podiatrist trying to start my locum job, and I’ve been held up for weeks due to compliance issues that according to my recruiter cannot understand why I haven’t started my job yet

[@aymiesam]

I was there between Christmas and New year, people had been there that length of time.

[@mhl8396]

Sack every single of the 800 diversity officers in the NHS, and hire nurses and doctors instead

[@emmas3716]

Diversity officers, are you serious?! My God.

[@85ABC]

Agree. NHS should seriously look at all the back office roles

[@robertcreighton4635]

Doesn't this happen almost every winter?

[@mjl2904]

Exactly, this is not news anymore. Media and people that have not used or worked in the NHS still think we have a world class service because it is free at the point of use. It is great service when you actually see someone.

[@gftjghdt3582]

Every winter and it will be the same next year this is not a new story

[@christianholder5792]

Turn spare buildings into walk in centre or like hospitals but staff who don’t work for the nhs

[@martinjohncassidyCASSIDY]

Unacceptable this has been going on year in year and our useless politicians do nothing.

[@michaelenglish2066]

2 MONTHS AGO MY DAD BEET HIS RECORD OF 37 HOURS ON A TROLLY IN a AND e WITH A 49 HOURS LAST TIME IN NOVEMBER ,,IN BLACKBURN HOSPICAL

[@dannyquinn9128]

What's a "hospical"?

[@emmas3716]

Yes and the gentleman who died on a trolley waiting neglected in Blackburn hospital last year. It's a bad place. Both my parents have nearly died through neglect there. I went for my own issue last year and got fobbed off. Fortunately I'm having surgery at Preston this year but only because I went to beardswood private hospital first. Wrong. I'm thinking of moving out of the Blackburn post code area so that I don't end up in that death trap in the future

[@jillybe1873]

Winter heating help was £350 ish. Hospital £2000 minimum. Funeral costs £4000 minimum. Restore winter heating allowance is the cheapest option. Chancellor cant do basic maths

[@sheilabrosnan3968]

They don't care because they have funds to be comfy very sad for the elderly, and people who are in ill health.

[@Carllizard]

But then the government doesn’t pay you pension because you’re dead

[@Starchaser63]

Labour ( and other parties) talking of treating symptoms of the NHS crisis, rather than the Root cause which is treating a Sick nation ... excess junk food , excess alcohol , stress, anxiety, .. " the problem is Food " .. eliminate all processed junk foods and drinks and then your on your way to dealing with the NHS crisis...simply really 😊

[@85ABC]

Totally agree. People should first and foremost look after themselves. Obesity was a primary reason you got serious covid…

[@johnking5174]

This is nothing new - I remember back in 1999 in the Blair era, when money was pumped into the NHS, they were moaning about another crisis in the winter. It seems no matter how much money is poured into the NHS, it never seems to be enough. Where is all this money going. Billions upon billions of £££s over the years.

[@85ABC]

Totally agree. NHS needs redesigning for the 21st century

[@lisaf7909]

@@johnking5174 probably going to the private companies that financed the building or our new hospitals. It was labour that introduced to pfi. They're basically mortgaged to the hilt.

[@ivanglossop5106]

What happened to all the new hospitals they built for covid

[@judijohnson2800]

Every home in WA gets an allowance irrespective of their circumstances

[@lizauger9828]

Back in the 1960s we had massive hospital wards and far more beds so why did they cut beds they had geriatric wards for elderley

[@lushxkitten]

‘The Chairman of a company that sued the British government’s Department of Health for almost £700 million - and won - is a major Tory donor who regularly dines with Theresa May and other senior figures from the Conservative Party. Simon Blagden is Non-Executive Chairman of Fujitsu UK, the British arm of the Japanese IT firm. Fujitsu were a supplier on the NHS Programme for IT (NHSPfIT), a disastrous scheme that sought to digitise NHS medical information. When the scheme failed in 2011, at a cost of at least £2.7 billion to the taxpayer according to official spending watchdog the National Audit Office, Fujitsu were sacked - the NHS said their part of the programme didn’t work. And that’s where things get spicy: Fujitsu sued the NHS, demanding £700 million in compensation.’ (VICE article by Solomon Hughes) Perhaps them losing that much money is what’s also contributing to problems within the NHS, such as this.

[@lushxkitten]

Btw if anyone is wondering, thats not the full article, just the first bit. I can’t post links it should be easy to find on google.

[@ianbird7444]

turn up the heating ....... im sure the pensioners would love to Labour will cause deaths this year because of that decission

[@jakeholland9502]

Dont the poorest get it my dad does and hes not on pension credit. Most his friends dont need it

[@mairiconnell6282]

Sorry when you are ill you can't think correctly. I have serious complex medical history. An ambulance was called by my son and the paramedics didn't want to take me. My son demanded that they done,. I then spent one year in hospital in a critical condition. When I arrived I was assessed and then deteriorated and was in ITU. If my son who is medically trained didn't get listened too, I was be dead. The VAT on Private Schools is very cruel to the children who are not being talked about. These kids entering the State Sector will have a label on their backs and will be bullied. Ripped from their friends and trying to cope with a limited curriculum. Politics of envy only.

[@silvermoonuk]

I agree in that we need more community services, such as home help, support workers visiting ppl in their homes, and more preventative health and social care services. We need to train our own people with employing apprenticeships or paying good wages. Trouble in the past, the tories and labour do fancy sound bites but you still don't see anything happening on the ground.

[@bunglejoy3645]

There is good care agencies galore you can employ if elderly but few specialist agencies working with mentally ill as community carers

[@leesmart2157]

Noone has said this but the NHS should be run independent of government. The government give the budget but the nhs run by a body of experts.this would allow for 10 15 20 yr planning What happens is 1 government wins power and they make big changes to what the nhs does then they lose power and the new government makes radical changes. This flip flopping of schemes must cost a fortune. A team of experts at the top who can make long term plans will be so much more cost effective

[@85ABC]

But the NHS already is ran by experts….

[@85ABC]

We put loads of operations and other things on hold due to COVID. Are we surprised that there is a backlog? NHS has tons of money. I think we need to re-design what the NHS is there for, it isn’t to solve every single problem someone may or may not have

[@MrPotsy81]

Teacher in the US. Paperwork, regulations, etc. etc. Takes time away from students. Same with Health care system, takes time away from patients. Here's an idea. Medicine is about the patients and Education is about the students. What's so hard about this idea? Disgraceful.

[@anilasharma2371]

Work ethics has gone out of the window, our niece wasn't responding ? An ambulance was called, it will take 8-9 hours , she is a cerebral palsy patient, it's appalling.

[@rogerworgan6022]

I was waiting for the"inherited line"

[@JamerzB88]

It's not just the winter anymore 😂

[@KamaljitSandhu-w6q]

You'd get seen quicker in a government hospital in india nowadays, however they would charge one a tenner.

[@si_w8201]

Was Kevin as defensive of the NHS during the last 14 years? I don't remember him being this nuanced about anything that the Conservatives were responsible for...

[@danielrawlings8355]

7M NHS waiting list.

[@footballoldboy4818]

How many people in that queue were immigrants?

[@wiseget-f7e]

This is life under labour!

[@mjl2904]

Behave yourself this is an inheritance. It is like complaining about your new neighbour for having work done on their new house with scaffolding that affects you. But the issue was with your neighbour of the last 15 years not doing any work on their new house and being in such a bad state for the new owner.

[@emmas3716]

Ain't it just

[@85ABC]

I’m sure its not their fault

[@SimonSmith-yd6tt]

After 14 years of Tory underfunding and austerity, with creeping Privatisation under the Tories and now Wes Streeting what does anyone expect?

[@arod9998]

The NHS is funded but it can’t cope with the mass number of people flooding into the country each year.

[@85ABC]

Apart from during COVID when the NHS got more money than its ever had

[@SimonSmith-yd6tt]

??? like PPE fraud?

[@martinCraig-vf7jg]

Millions that went on failed PPE contracts, Michele Mone still on her yacht

[@SimonSmith-yd6tt]

that's how I replied but ITV deleted the comment

[@SP-lw3bq]

waited 50 hour for treatment. an ill gal my grunt waited 60 hours for his 4 star hotel suite !. lay boar know what their doing.

[@Rookiescot]

Pierce full of sympathy for NHS patients. Where was your sympathy for the last 14 years Pierce? Now you are giving a Labour government 1 year to fix it after taking office? The country is skint. Pierce and his friends ensured that with Brexit.

[@85ABC]

Labour is hardly going to make us economically better, however I’m sure that’ll be the conservatives fault also

[@robertbest4398]

Auld man mcquire starmer

[@annealbrecht396]

We are over populated ! It’s the elephant in the room

[@lisaf7909]

@@annealbrecht396the whole population doesn't head to A&E. The NHS has been seriously underfunded for years

[@puclopuclik4108]

It isn't a population problem but a funding problem.

[@mjl2904]

Not over population, we have an aging and unhealthy population coupled with an underfunded and mismanaged healthcare system

[@arod9998]

@@lisaf7909yes but the population keeps raising each year, which means more demand. People come the channel in inflatable boats to use our NHS services

[@85ABC]

Agree. We are for the state of our services. It’s not just the NHS you could look at almost all the services the government and local councils run

[@geosmith3436]

Tories broke this over years, good luck to anyone trying to fix it.

[@85ABC]

Hardly. Population growth and backlog from COVID. NHS has more money than its ever had

[@geosmith3436]

@ remember the austerity years

[@briankerrison8504]

Pensioners are the wealthiest demographic in this nation.. maybe they can all pull together & create support groups..🙄🤔

[@garywilton246]

Another scare monger... Great. This time we're prepared for it.

[@johnmanning6639]

Nice to see you have washed your hair is that for pier

[@dannyquinn9128]

Who are you talking about?

[@johnmanning6639]

@dannyquinn9128 hi Danny loving the comment see first message on the chair

[@dannyquinn9128]

@@johnmanning6639 ?

[@dannyquinn9128]

@@johnmanning6639 ?