Stephen Fry: Why I quit Twitter and why Starmer's first 100 days have been 'disastrous'

[@jazzlife8691]

Watching this, I really do think those in London don’t have the foggiest idea of what the country think or want.

[@carrauntoohil86]

The old cliche of a London bubble. London is a city of over 9 million people and has some of the most deprived boroughs in the entire country. It's a city made up of people of entirely different life experiences and thoughts so maybe stop with this London doesn't have a clue as if it's a one giant hive mind

[@Aegmog]

​@@carrauntoohil86Obviously it's those in power in London who don't have the foggiest. The thoughts and wants of those 9million are irrelevant as they hold no power and they're certainly not a hive mind. They are fractured communities of immigrants living in segregated groups. Who live in fear of each other, scared of walking our streets after dark.

[@slartibartfast7921]

@@carrauntoohil86 I think that instead of being defensive, you should simply recognize that the bubble they are referring to is more of a reference to a certain kind of Londoner. They bubble in which they live is undeniable, specifically those with power.

[@carrauntoohil86]

@@slartibartfast7921 I still disagree. You could equally apply this lazy stereotype to people living in the shires where they are predominantly conservative voters.

[@slartibartfast7921]

@@carrauntoohil86 That’s a fair point, but I still think that due to London not only having dominion over the nation but also (via financial services) large areas of the planet, a generalization (even a relatively lazy one) is forgivable. I respect your opinion tho, I can’t stand generalizations ordinarily.

[@Tokengesture]

Fry a wonderful decent man …… but listening to him you can see how detached he is from real life living in his elite privileged bubble

[@Bolachas25]

I used to think the same. Not so sure how decent since listening to his emotive defence of Israel’s attack on Gaza.

[@rustyfeatherstone93]

really? how?

[@pin00ch]

​@@Bolachas25 that one hurt.

[@bustertheboxer1343]

Eh?

[@luisbustamante9869]

@@Bolachas25 He showed his claws on Jeremy Corbyn too. A wolf in sheep's clothing.

[@giovanni8304]

Keir Staermer a decent man? Marr is living on a different planet. Starmer showed early on his unscrupulous and autocratic nature - so no surprise he is found to be a self-serving miser.

[@pierzing.glint1sh76]

He's met him, you haven't.

[@MsJk29]

A former human rights lawyer pushing for sooner, harder, and longer lock downs tells you everything about his principles, or lack there of.

[@giovanni8304]

@@MsJk29 you mean the fellow who got confused about whether cutting off electricity, water and food from civilian populations is a breach of human rights?

[@opinion3742]

@@pierzing.glint1sh76 Yes, and he was describing his delusional or naive impression of Starmer.

[@1258-Eckhart]

Marr is to Starmer what Kuenssberg was to Johnson - Nr. 1 fangirl-

[@jenniferbarry5887]

Andrew Marr meets these 'lovely' people at dinner in Islington. Both Fry and Marr have no idea how angry people outside their bubble.

[@gmonkman]

You don't realise how glad the nation is to have Labour in power, outside of your bubble. Fry doesn't even live in London. Come on man.

[@IsumiNath]

Most people have turned against Labour ffs, do you even know what's going on?

[@sn4831]

Lol yeah Starmer’s so popular on the opinion polls

[@SisterAbdullahX]

@@gmonkman Yeah, the nation is so glad Labour is in power that only 20% of voting age people voted for them, and most of those regret it. Starmer is less popular than syphilis.

[@bganonimouse2754]

And yet both seem to understand the idea of a New York and California bubble. Its almost as if they might have awareness of people outside their bubble...

[@steffanbull4671]

Starmer ousts his "mate" corbyn by lying about him then excepts political bungs of £100,000 ... Andrew Marr : Normal and unflashy

[@gmonkman]

Stop lieing, they weren't bungs, they were perfectly legal and declared. Also, nowhere near 100k. As i'm sure you are no hypocrit, you can point me to all your comments criticising Tory MPs, and Johnson for accepting donations from Russian Oligarchs (via their wives), Gambling, Tobacco, Weapons, Sugar and other industries ... the difference here was that it was a DONOR. Jeez. Stop spreading disinformation.

[@robertsmith9810]

as i say Marr no taste in dinner buddies

[@notreallydavid]

accepts

[@Johnny-sj9sj]

@@notreallydavid I don't often agree with typo-pedants but I'm with you on this one. Thank F for the edit facility!

[@bunchie1966]

I heard Marr calling Starmer "a decent man" !

[@skulptor]

Two men being wrong in public. Stammer is not a politician. He is a career social climber. He pursues his ideology of choice without respect to voters. His personal life is detached from these priorities. These two cannot see what the contradictions mean. Two magisteria Kier.

[@ClannCholmain]

😢 😂🤣

[@majordendrocopos]

Shall I correct you? Keir Starmer is the Prime Minister. That means that he is a very successful politician. I realise that you hate him for reasons of your own but that is your problem.

[@wellthatsokay8582]

@@majordendrocoposnope. That is just your opinion and your personal viewpoint.

[@kirstinline]

@@skulptor ironic that you just described jezza to a T.

[@colingourley1222]

Starmer is not a politician. He’s a prosecutor. He did it very successfully as opposition leader as he turned the House of Commons into his personal courtroom to prosecute the missteps, mistakes, peccadilloes and errors of the government of the time. Now he is in charge he is beginning to show the same frailties of those he so successfully prosecuted. Little wonder the tactics he employed are now being deployed against him himself. He’s leaden footed and I worry about how he will perform over the next period.

[@lookandlisten5740]

"You're wonderful Stephen" "Oh, you're so kind Andrew..but yes i am wonderful aren't I ?"

[@gonz808]

thanks, you saved me 10 minutes

[@notfreshprince]

Put subway surfers on in the background and you might be able to pay attention for the duration. It’s tough, you can do it!

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

I think Fry is overrated as an intellectual and, in my book, he certainly isn't one of the heavyweights. Yes, he makes the right noises etc to give that impression, perhaps quoting an author or book that nobody has ever heard of...or using phrases to give the impression of intelligence, but that's all it is, smoke and mirrors.

[@chrislewis343]

If you deny two tier justice, tell me why the Asian men who seriously assaulted the police officers at Manchester Airport, STILL have not been charged?

[@lorna5193]

It's blatently obvious that two tier justice is rife, and even more obvious how out of touch with reality these two are.

[@EloiseB2025]

They were. Arrested charged bailed and files handed over to the Crown Prosecution Service. Where did you hear otherwise?

[@b3564]

​@@EloiseB2025I think they meant that they haven't been pulled in front of a judge/court!

[@neilgodwin6531]

​@@b3564I assume you are not British. Often there is a long gap between charging and court appearances. The OP is whining because Farage Rioters were sentenced more quickly than Just Stop Oil protesters. It's childish and silly. Rioters are always dealt with swiftly, it happened under Thatcher too. The purpose is to deter more riots, and it worked perfectly

[@STEELMENPODCAST-l4y]

Farage rioters? That's so desperate.

[@ivorevans1795]

Thank goodness the ones watching this far more sensible than those producing it……

[@vordman]

i can't bring myself to dislike Fry because he was brilliantly funny when younger, but, oh my, he does talk some drivel now.

[@w8m4n]

He's a sell-out, he believes everything they want him to believe. It's such a shame too, he was so bright and lovable, bow he's just an old bitter cliché

[@kennethrollo7891]

Really?

[@a_kazakis]

@@w8m4n "they"?

[@cseosborn892]

He’s become so dull.

[@w8m4n]

@@a_kazakis wherever he gets his information from. I probably should have worded it better

[@alphabetaxenonzzzcat]

The irony of Fry complaining about the "metropolitan elites of California and New York" and then there's Fry and Marr being very much part of the British version, and the talking points of that.

[@austJW]

💯%

[@hughjohns9110]

@@alphabetaxenonzzzcat spot on.

[@RinpochesRose]

👆 THIS COMMENT 👌

[@dogbreaththe3rd851]

They probably have a collective intellect which exceeds that of the whole cabinet.

[@hughjohns9110]

@@dogbreaththe3rd851 that doesn’t make them right about anything.

[@juliandenormanville5225]

I'm not going to use words like narcissistic personality disorder...Oh sorry...I just did!

[@jamesthecat]

That's just a nice way of saying 'I know it's overused, but in this case it's true'. And do you know what? In this case (and Trump's), it is.

[@1968spikey]

​@@jamesthecat Stephen is more intelligent than the vast majority of commenters here. 😊

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

Yes, it's almost as bad as when people say _"look, I'm not being 'funny' or anything..._ then proceed to be 'funny'! 🤣

[@HeavensGremlin]

What utter and complete DRIVEL these two fools are talking. Painful to listen to such idiocy.

[@majordendrocopos]

Who would you prefer to listen to? Nigel Farage possibly?

[@austriasalzburg]

Luckily we are free to listen or not listen to whoever we want.

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

I think Fry is grossly overrated as an intellectual and, in my book, he certainly isn't one of the heavyweights. Yes, he makes the right noises etc to give that impression, perhaps quoting an author or book that nobody has ever heard of...or using phrases to give the impression of intelligence, but that's all it is, smoke and mirrors.

[@majordendrocopos]

@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504 Bet you wish you were as smart as him! Just a little jealousy perhaps?

[@Lovethesundeck]

Sad to say, you two have absolutely no idea how the bulk of the country feel. You just love the sound of your own voices

[@ClannCholmain]

Time for PR so, right?

[@kirstinline]

@@ClannCholmain seems to be working fine in israel 🤪

[@a.i.l1074]

Seem like smart and decent enough people, but this is what happens when you've never had a real job

[@ClannCholmain]

@@kirstinline it’s working in the best democracies in the world.

[@kirstinline]

@@ClannCholmain i said israel.

[@DavidJames-p9f]

Starmer went to lay flowers in Southport and couldn't even speak to the public or look them in the eye. Are they the actions of a normal person?

[@bucklr11]

He is just doing his puppet masters bidding and going through the Marxist motions

[@gmonkman]

Please don't get your information from right wing sites. These sites have one purpose, to divide the UK population to ensure a highly favourable environment for their multimillionaire backers. Labour party are going the right direction on many policies. I'd encourage you to look for balance information as opposed to those that support your confirmation bias.

[@TriviaChallenge]

Yeh Liz Truss was so much better.

[@JohnSmith-lk8cy]

No. He's a narcissist. He cannot 'do' empathy.

[@andreroswell1561]

He spent 15 seconds laying those flowers and was off like a shot.

[@MrScrumpy7]

Two people so deluded and completely blind to what is going on outside their pathetic metropolitan bubble. These kind of ideologues is why our once great country is disintegrating into a complete suit hole

[@angi733]

Andrew Marr was Eulogising about Keir only a month ago; he was completely taken in by the Man. Can’t be all that smart!

[@TheOwlsarewatching606]

they all eulogise on the basis of earning their money

[@captaintorch983]

@angi733 No, he isn't, is he? In fact, he is a complete dupe. Have you seen his interviews on the New Statesman channel. His simpering adulation of Starmer is sickening.

[@Erm-rn2by]

To be fair compared to the disasters Tory party. Stammer was the only option. Marr has never hidden which way he leans and has tried to be fair to all sides but it felt like the Tory party were doing everything they can to lose. The New Stateman made the right choice by endorsing Stammers Labour. Who knew what the future in tell.

[@gmonkman]

I suspect he's smarter than you

[@hoxtondave9619]

Marr admired Starmer's ability to have extramarital affairs and get away with it, something Marr didn't manage. Now that it's out in the open that Starmer isn't such a righteous and honest family man after all, Marr doesn't know what on earth to make of it all.

[@arnoldhemsley9317]

Denying 2 tier policing!? Give us a break!

[@MsJk29]

Yes, there’s even current barristers saying that it appears to be the case on line.

[@dominic9983]

It doesn’t exist (except maybe to detriment of British BAME) so of course he should deny it.

[@specialized500]

​@@MsJk29Wow on line Barristers !

[@MsJk29]

@@specialized500 No, a working barrister who happens to post videos.

[@MsJk29]

@@specialized500 But you don’t need to be a barrister to be able to see the difference between police in normal attire and riot gear. I just highlighted that even people who are part of the establishment are acknowledging it.

[@deanvr6121]

The switch from boasting about having an Austrian passport because of Brexit to being uncomfortable about the political leadership in Austria makes an awkward watch.

[@UKRO404]

Not to me.

[@andrewrobinson2565]

Do you think so? 😂

[@gmonkman]

Did you listen? He wanted an EU passport, not to move to Austria.

[@fanfeck2844]

@@gmonkmandid the OP say he wanted to move to Austria? Just that he is a citizen of that fine country

[@jackburgess8579]

What Stephen Fry has to say for himself is more or less deranged.

[@majordendrocopos]

Really? What does he say that you consider to be “more or less deranged “? Please explain.

[@elainemackie1431]

Oh dear this pair are so far removed from public opinion

[@majordendrocopos]

Are you the public?

[@bigman25plus25]

And what is the public opinion?

[@majordendrocopos]

@@bigman25plus25 It is the opinion of the person who wrote the post. He is the public.

[@JohnChilton1]

YOU TWO ARE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW NOT TO confuse education with intelligence.

[@majordendrocopos]

I suppose that means that you think that you have intelligence?

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

Fry is overrated as an intellectual and, in my book, he certainly isn't one of the heavyweights. Yes, he makes the right noises etc to give that impression, perhaps quoting an author or book that nobody has ever heard of...or using phrases that suggest intelligence, but that's all it is, smoke and mirrors.

[@LenBintcliffe]

What planet are they on. Starmer a decent man fu- - ing hilarious 🤣

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

Did someone put something in their tea? 🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄😊

[@garethrichmond4388]

Oh, won't someone please think of Taylor Swift. This interview is perfectly exemplar of the total disconnect from the ruling oligarchy and their subjects.

[@majordendrocopos]

What? Andrew Marr and Stephen Fry are part of the “ruling oligarchy”? Tell me how, if the drugs wear off…….

[@janepeach6082]

Big brother and the proles.

[@majordendrocopos]

@ My favourite rock band!

[@edwardoliver3473]

Voyager 1 and 2 are more in touch than this pair.... deary me!

[@janepeach6082]

That tickled me!😂

[@edwardoliver3473]

@janepeach6082 thank u. I try... but the you tube stazi have me on their hitlist....

[@Iazzaboyce]

If Keir Starmer is _"unflashy"_ in his £50k wardrobe - I dread to think what Marr would think of me...

[@micallef87]

I think that’s the point he was trying to get across. That when he met him, presumably before he was elected, he was “unflashy”.

[@kevinrayner5812]

I don't care if the PM looks like Jeremy Clarkson as long as they actually know what they are doing.

[@opinion3742]

@@kevinrayner5812 Which is where it falls down.

[@simonfunwithtrains1572]

I don't dislike Stephen Fry or Andrew Marr for that matter, but this does feel like a bit of a love fest for each other. It all feels a little bit removed from reality.

[@dogbreaththe3rd851]

Thrown in a couple of crafty blowies, and robert is indeed your mother's brother.

[@kennethrollo7891]

So they agree, that makes it a love fest???

[@opinion3742]

Privilege will do that for you when you can live in a bubble.

[@majordendrocopos]

Ah, reality! Everyone likes to talk about it but nobody can say what it is. Everyone has their own reality, it is not the same for everyone.

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

I think the 'swooning' is coming from Marr actually. He hangs on every word of his overrated intellectual 'learned' friend, and is slightly cringeworthy to watch.

[@deniseneal9216]

As a lifetime libral left thinking person that is now considered to be far right, I try so hard to listen to the other side of the argument in case I missed something and accidentally ended up on the wrong side of the argument, but every ounce of me says these people on the left and the government are wrong, and I feel my hackles go up with irritation just listening to them speak.

[@itcouldbelupus2842]

The left? Who?

[@myzenlifeinnature]

Same. Ex left here, now apparently (but not from me) am "far right". Laughable.

[@geedee1264]

You did just let out the last man to be sentenced to hang on Britain, an Irishman who had a confession tortured out of him and was incarcerated for fifty years, Guildford four, Birmingham six, People talking about two tier justice now were calling for their blood then, because they were Irish. As for Fry and Marr being out of touch. No doubt, but so are you if you think you have any idea about two tier justicd, we had internment without trial. 😂 routine physical torture, that was a normal week

[@DilbertWhitehead]

Same. I've spent most of my life being outwardly liberal, introspective and colourblind, yet now spend many a day arguing with those on the left who are so far removed from the reality I once knew - it's hard to even recognise them as my fellow countrymen. In the space of merely a few years, our political and social landscape may as well exist on another planet from so many of us

[@itcouldbelupus2842]

@@DilbertWhitehead what do you argue with those on the left about?

[@sparkyinsertnamehere6673]

People are in jail for posting things on social media whilst 'bought and paid for' Starmer is letting ACTUAL criminals out. This creep has to go.

[@josephparkes242]

who's in prison for social media?

[@charliemumford]

You’re conveniently skirting over the ‘things’ they posted on social media. They also pleaded guilty to the offences they were charged with.

[@specialized500]

People are not in jail for posting things on social media .it's what you post is why you can end up in jail

[@a_lethe_ion]

*insert the goose hunting the person meme" WHAT THINGS? Jailed for posting WHAT on social media, mfer?"

[@haleytownsend7544]

@@specialized500 Yes they are

[@keefwolfson]

What planet is Andrew Marr living on?

[@clivet3252]

The one he looks like he's from

[@dh1380]

Marrs

[@mick0905]

Beat me to it.

[@TheOwlsarewatching606]

Planet Bank Account

[@lorncampbell4943]

@@dh1380 well played

[@charlesd4572]

Yawn - these people are tiresome.

[@riggers1977]

I like Stephen as a bloke but to deny two tier policing is woefully ignorant of him

[@MrGregglesC]

It's not two tier 🤣

[@michaeljust1193]

"This two tier Kier business " is so blatantly obvious only a fool would deny it .

[@opinion3742]

Only a fool is going to believe it. But only a fool would be defending the riots. Propaganda: learn to recognize it. Start with some stats at least!

[@stevebaldock4967]

Making excuses for political incompetence. And now blaming Elon Musk!

[@Elisacr1]

How do you proclaim “I live in an Ivory tower” more than this interview?

[@col.hertford9855]

By making a comment like this? You are in just as big an echo chamber I expect.

[@janepeach6082]

@@col.hertford9855 I don’t think you can listen to a station like lbc and accuse other people of echo chamber thought! Most people come here to listen to how extreme the propaganda has become. Come on, get real.

[@vicicooper4720]

Who cannot be fond of Stephen Fry - until he opens his mouth and reveals shocking ignorance and bias?

[@stayhungry1503]

so much for QI huh?

[@vicicooper4720]

And he is an insecure people pleaser so he spouts the nonsense around him.

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

Fry is overrated as an intellectual and, in my book, he certainly isn't one of the heavyweights. Yes, he makes the right noises etc to give that impression, perhaps quoting an author or book that nobody has ever heard of...or using phrases to give the impression of intelligence, but that's all it is, smoke and mirrors.

[@sarahgray2733]

The north London elite are just as boring as I suspected.

[@2msvalkyrie529]

It's not the boredom I can't stand ; it's the Self righteousness and the sanctimony..!!

[@SisterAbdullahX]

Absolutely right, the pair of you.

[@minui8758]

He’s not north London! He’s Norfolk through and through! Born here and still lives in the Fakenham/Walsingham area (I won’t reveal the village). His name is literally Fry! Nothing screams Old Norfolk Quaker nobility like the name Fry

[@gmonkman]

Whats it like to go through your whole life, never listening and thinking about anything but just labelling according to you own prejudices?

[@Rebelconformist82]

Spot on

[@MikeSmith-jv1zu]

From admiring Stephen albeit some while back he talks about Elon Musk in such a way yet without looking in the mirror...

[@garethrichmond4388]

Right. It's hilarious.

[@MrGregglesC]

He's right about elon

[@amandahudson2038]

Hard life being a rich celebrity. Poor poor rich men, if you’re not going to help clear off.

[@jumpbucket]

Fry has no idea what is going on, in his bubble.

[@aion5837]

What was the point of any of this?

[@opinion3742]

Look at me! Look at me! I'm great and just because, yea.

[@w8m4n]

What about asking someone who ISN'T occupying an ivory tower. Fry is showing his ignorance

[@majordendrocopos]

Ignorance of what?

[@w8m4n]

@@majordendrocopos ignorance of the common life, reality, and how most people actually feel

[@majordendrocopos]

@@w8m4n Really? Please define exactly what “the common life” is, or what “reality” is? How do you know how “most people” feel? Do you mean most of your friends and family?

[@nicfarrow]

HUH? What are you on?

[@w8m4n]

@nicfarrow I MUST be on SOMETHING, because YOU disagree with me? Ok

[@grahamo22]

Being a Lawyer, Starmer is fundamentally incapable of understanding anything except the law. He cannot comprehend anyone who challenges him because he simply isnt used to it.

[@user-mr9us6wx3r]

Lawyers jobs revolve around the ability to argue their point and refute criticism in a court of law. What do you think a lawyer does??

[@scottrogers7917]

Starmers dead between the eyes !!! Awful man

[@annenunney9907]

I agree

[@robertsmith9810]

@@annenunney9907 but these two `are best dinner buddies of 2 tier kier douse not say a lot about there taste of buddies

[@algiles881]

I sometimes think Starmer is the embalmed corpse of Hugh Gaitskill - he is a 1950s throwback.

[@robertsmith9810]

@@algiles881personally he is the Devils advocate

[@2msvalkyrie529]

Poor deluded Stephen. He appeared in the Guardian several weeks ago proclaiming how happy he was to have been granted Austrian citizenship . Part of his protest against " nasty ,broken Brexit Britain ".. Unfortunately , a couple of days later the Far Right Austrian Freedom Party came out top in the Austrian general election..😂😂😂😂

[@Willywin]

Define 'Far Right' other than people you disagree with... What are angry working class people - of course 'Far Right' lol

[@dimirockeropoulos6104]

​@@Willywinfar right is a term the Globalists use to describe anyone not on board with their agenda.

[@alieighty]

@@Willywin Depends on what they're angry about.

[@Fidelisjoff]

Fry could be a victim of Austria 's remigration unfortunately

[@minui8758]

@@Willywin yep. Hard right is the slur today. When we used to go on strike it was hard left. The working class is always marginalised

[@DamienPelling]

Two senior members of the mutual appreciation society at work here.

[@robertsmith9810]

more junior

[@Ela167]

I am deeply disappointed in Stephen Fry's perspective on Elon Musk and his lack of comprehension regarding the general public's sentiments.

[@luciatheron1621]

I'm part of general public and South African and I'm in agreement with Stephen Fry.

[@jimcoakley904]

Why don’t you tell us why?

[@Ela167]

He's gone with the rest of the sheep about Elon he usually does a deep dive on a person before speaking.

[@Wee162]

Elon Musk is as much a malignant global force as Trump. Two narcissists who reject criticism and love creating divisions among people. Elon Musk can blabber on and on about free speech as he defends white supremacists and other degenerates on X but doesn’t think twice about suspending accounts of people he disagrees with. I will never understand personalities who are drawn to men like Trump and Musk. Must be delusional.

[@JonDasBoot]

Is it Elons support of far far right extremists that you support? Please tell us!

[@brynshearwood9797]

Criticising his South African and Canadian heritage is VERY RASIST don’t you think !!!

[@esmecilliers9941]

Maybe his Canadian but as a South African, I understand wanting to blame our past for Elon's personality but why did most especially English speaking and 90% of Afrikaans speaking white develop better than Elon that left here 40 years ago !

[@loot6]

I think he’s talking about countries here, their views and political ideas.

[@cosmicmauve]

Why oh why come in with that argument? yawn! and it's spelled "ra-Cist"? and who cares?

[@patrickm8316]

A pair of old washer women…

[@fionacarroll5562]

don't insult washer women.

[@glenncambray9783]

They work.

[@homahak]

A perfect description. Irrelevant nonsense over the fence.

[@karinberryman2009]

❤😂😂😂

[@shapesrot]

Don't be surprised, if some stuff with "young er men" and Fry comes out in the next few years. He is an establishment asset.Always has been.

[@BATC98]

Are these two for real what a pair of utter fools and let’s be honest fry’s conduct is very questionable

[@Carrera-gp9od]

Who actually asked for multiculturalism? No one I know . What’s wrong with British culture ?

[@Snowdog2711]

What exactly is British culture?...not looking for a fight, just interested. What qualities/activities can you name that are uniquely British? (apart from Morris Dancing obviously!)

[@bb69bb]

No one is asking, we live in a society where multiple cultures exist, nothing wrong with that

[@PaulTaylor-x7q]

Nobody needs your permission

[@CL2005]

Where do you want me to start? 🤣

[@Snowdog2711]

@@CL2005 Anywhere you like!

[@lm014c2414]

What a painful watch marr a Trotsky and fry the privileged elite talking down to the people who voted for Brexit and are concerned about the way this country is being overrun

[@isbestlizard]

Evidently Keir Starmer isn't 'normal' and 'unflashy'. Unflashy people don't trade their integrity for a few thousand pounds worth of 'luxury eyewear'.

[@blazzz13]

You're right. They do it for billions of dodgy PPE tenders instead

[@GeoffV-k1h]

Real humans rights lawyers don't pretend Israel is acting within International Rules when starving 2 M people, either.

[@gbwildlifeuk8269]

@isbestlizard neither do "normal" people.

[@gregfurey1104]

How about 90k a roll wallpaper like boris?

[@FletcherRZX]

​@@gregfurey1104Both can be true

[@popcult5662]

Fry’s right, he probably shouldn’t be making political commentary when he’s perfectly satisfied to throw around casual psychiatric diagnoses and xenophobic justifications in critique of someone he disagrees with; ironically when that person is intent on amplifying the voices of those he disagrees with.

[@gmonkman]

Well thats a bunch of random sentences. Care to actually add a single verifiable fact?

[@conradblack779]

Fry used to be a free speech absolutist and a genuine middle of the road thinker unfortunately he has veered far left in recent years such a shame I used to respect his opinion quite a bit. Just another establishment shill now

[@popcult5662]

@@gmonkman care to watch the interview and use your ears?

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

Fry is overrated as an intellectual and, in my book, he certainly isn't one of the heavyweights. Yes, he makes the right noises etc to give that impression, perhaps quoting an author or book that nobody has ever heard of...or using phrases to give the impression of intelligence, but that's all it is, smoke and mirrors.

[@gmonkman]

​@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504 Well he isn't rated as an intellectual is he? He is a comedian, entertainer and social commentator with a gift for communication. He can obviously think, he passed an S-level with distinction, and those f*ckers were hard without special tuition. If you asked him, I don't think he'd ever describe himself as "An intellectual" re: "or using phrases to give the impression of intelligence,". Well thats a difficult one, how would you distinguish between the fraud and the genuine thinker ... I think he responds well and coherantly to questions ... have you heard him debating on religion? Or are you simply going on his main channel media appearances?

[@jeffcable9961]

The delusions of Marr & Fry are inexplicably monumental. They are hugely wealthy twitterati who know absolutely nothing of my life. Talking heads trying to push their distorted views as 'normal'.

[@stephenwoods4316]

I thought Fry was intelligent. He is nieve about the civil service, nieve about anti hydrocarbons and very very nieve about two tier policing.

[@dudeonyoutube]

Nieve?

[@TMDWTFIU]

Nieve Campbell?​@@dudeonyoutube

[@walterbo7687]

​​​​@@dudeonyoutube he's quite used in misspelling (he writes "Shira" instead of Sharia in another comment, "contry reform" in another, which I don't know what it is). I guess he meant naive

[@hughjohns9110]

@@stephenwoods4316 and naive about Brexit.

[@ChrisJones-co4ei]

Naive even 😂

[@simonbennett6235]

What Marr and Fry can’t cope with is that they are less intelligent. Fry and Marr “ talk” for a living. Musk “ walks the talk” ie he creates products,services and jobs . Fry and Marr long lost touch with reality. You would get them “ kipping down” at the factory- they built!

[@gmonkman]

That money in anyone else's hand would be used so much better. Musk is the perfect example of how being lucky and without ethics and morals counts for so much more than integrity and intelligence.

[@upness]

@@gmonkman I recently watched a video on his spaceX business. He was clearly very comfortable speaking with his scientists. I don't think it's a matter of luck, but can't say about his ethics or morals.

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

I think Fry is grossly overrated as an intellectual and, in my book, he certainly isn't one of the heavyweights. Yes, he makes the right noises etc to give that impression, perhaps quoting an author or book that nobody has ever heard of...or using phrases to give the impression of intelligence, but that's all it is, smoke and mirrors.

[@davidjeavons9619]

Wow! I inadvertently clicked on this and sat here in amazement at the sheer lack of understanding of what is actually taking place in our great country. I respectfully suggest that Mr Fry takes a short flight to his beloved Austria and settles down there. As for Mr Marr, he is beyond hope, a sycophant of the highest order…

[@garethrichmond4388]

Hah. Me too. This whole back and forth was absolutely mental. The cherry on the top was "Won't somebody please think of poor Taylor Swift! If she didn't have a police escorted she might have to run into regular plebs and she might be late for dinner because of the great unwashed!".

[@stayhungry1503]

@@garethrichmond4388 yeah she is so rich now she could probably buy a large chunk of the UK. but no shes the victim lol.

[@hughwilson2219]

Marr is an acolyte of Lord Sir Starmer-Blair. He's never questioned anything.

[@Aristipp-ng5fu]

It must be a bit embarrassing for the two talkers to be unanimously called "nitwits" here in this comment section.

[@palemale2501]

I fully agree with Mr Fry when he says he should not be broadcasting political opinions, yet here he is again, spouting dozens of 'em. I bet he ain't talking any more to his free-thinking free-speaking rational old mate Rowan Atkinson ....lol.

[@nigelparker5886]

I smell a little Bigotry here, still, I’m sure you must know best?

[@palemale2501]

@@nigelparker5886 56 Up votes agree with me about the irony of it, and seemingly lost on an otherwise very intelligent Mr Fry, who I suspect craves the limelight more than anything.

[@nigelparker5886]

@JasperTees-y8z You need to understand and fully accept the meaning of the word Bigot! I try to see things from several views to understand our differences! Then arrive at a consensus, which is the only way different opinions may be resolved! Think the NI agreement, the Bigots had to be replaced or reformed! Cheers

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

@@nigelparker5886 Would you really want to live in a world where you could be arrested for "looking at me in a funny way"?

[@nigelparker5886]

@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504 Sorry, I don’t understand what it is you’re saying there?

[@rabgabro6595]

Worst hypocrite in Britain. Self proclaimed know it all, who always behaves exactly the opposite to what he preaches. Can't stand Fry.

[@Timlagor]

If Starmer strikes you as "very decent" then your judgement is seriously warped

[@Paul630sqdrn]

It doesn't matters to me or my close friends we will never vote for either of these two deceitful political dinosaur party's again.

[@anllpp]

❤

[@partyringsparty]

@@anllpp Parties, 'not party's'.

[@rb1062]

Vote for Reform. Best alternative.

[@foldionepapyrus3441]

Wouldn't be so absolute unless you are so old you don't expect to see more than maybe one more general election - Now the Tories have humbled themselves so hard and Labour seem well on well on the way to blowing their own leg off too... Both groups might learn from it, oust the worst of the greedy, power crazed hypocrite and fools, and so manage to recover into a party you'd want to vote for again. Obviously don't hold your breath, but it wouldn't be the first time a party has shot itself in the foot and recovered - to some extent we have a recent example as Labour did that under Corbyn with the anti-semeatic stuff...

[@shaunhill1701]

@@rb1062 reform are crazy, they're the only party I know for sure is worse than the status quo of a different minority subset of billionaires. This whole conversation involves two people who are so far removed from the concerns or interests of ordinary people, just like reform. We're someway from a new way that helps the majority

[@pindiddle]

LBC 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 what a joke.

[@deepoole820]

Stephen is going somewhere safer. He can see what's coming.

[@margaridanormandes1907]

Yes he is going to Austria...thanks to his grandmother! Very nice country to settle in. Lucky man.😊

[@SamDurkSheff]

Sometimes watching these I feel a bit bleak and start to worry I'm going mad - that's why it's so satisfying to be able to go to the comments and see people voice exactly how I feel (and usually expounding on it better than I ever could). One of the plus-points to the internet and thank you dear commenters for helping to preserve some of my remaining sanity!

[@SamDurkSheff]

Can't believe I'm replying to my own comment but need to get it off my chest...the Marr quote is almost parody and actually made me begin to grind my teeth: 'We project our own hypocrisy on them and then get angry with them for what's really us'

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

@@SamDurkSheff Yes I couldn't quite believe what he said there either.

[@JusttheRun]

The internet and social media has made us all feel way more divided than we actually are.

[@garethedmondo2891]

@@JusttheRun civil conflict might clear the air

[@Cherrytune386]

Exactly. Underneath our skin we all have the same skeletons and the same blood colour!

[@clownofthetimes6727]

??? We are divided. We live in a multi cultural society. What is right for one culture is not right for others.

[@djpeekay25]

we are not divided in our low opinions of this new government.

[@jimbob8992]

This " musk man" yep. Along with The " Orange man"

[@devolverdesign]

Seemed to brush over the 2 tier enforcement aspect very quickly and without analysis. To an outside observer it seems obvious that non white groups are treated differently.

[@NigelJackson]

I noticed Fry hastily glossing over that issue.

[@pablolowenstein1371]

Is this the austria where you are basically a non citizen if you refused the jab , eh fry?

[@ianmedium]

That is factually incorrect. I live in Austria and no such thing was ever said or implemented by the government here!

[@DisturbedAidan2]

It's not Anglophobic to hate what the British Government is doing to our country, especially as many English people dislike their anti-English governments.

[@ratava6325]

Musk is far more intelligent than Fry or Marr,

[@lisadefries6718]

Nope he is simply wealthy. Please don’t forget he hasn’t designed or built anything he simply purchases companies and other peoples ideas that doesn’t make him a genius it simply makes him a successful businessman at best

[@CombatMosquitoTrainer]

Hahaha...don't bet any cash on that ridiculous statement

[@wrealini]

Wow. You really believe this.

[@ratava6325]

@@lisadefries6718 your premise nope he is simply wealthy is an unfounded personal opinion. Being so successful a businessman means he is very clever, how many people in the world are as successful as he is?

[@tonyjoanes]

Musk is an engineer at heart, very clever

[@guysim138]

Slowly these people are waking up. We have all been had. Politicians are not on our side, none of them. It’s a system that is captured by other interests.

[@elkpaz560]

Musk is a genuine genius and a man of integrity whereas Fry is a media creation. I was waiting for a specific criticism but all we got was slurs without substance. Many English people recognise Musk's comments as entirely accurate.

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

Fry is a 'fake' intellectual and, in my book, he certainly isn't one of the heavyweights. Yes, he makes the right noises etc to give that impression, perhaps quoting an author or book that nobody has ever heard of...or using phrases to give the impression of intelligence, but that's all it is, smoke and mirrors.

[@allanvirr]

Celebrities or other high-profile people using their position to promote their political opinions has bothered me for some time. Why should a great actor, singer, or business leader have their views heard by millions when most of us have jobs that don't have the platform they have? I even go as far as saying they're abusing their position.

[@ColinGarner-h1t]

The unfortunate thing is that people with sense don’t become politicians. Most people talk about Starmer in a very negative light.

[@shaun906]

he run the cps and tried to prosecute the tory press, they hate him with a passion!

[@designedforlifecoaching4007]

Andrew Marr is lost, he hasn't a clue

[@ianship5058]

Nothing new there.

[@TrumptonMayor]

Yes according to Andrew the adults have been in the room since July.

[@Colin-px6il]

Ah, so it’s all our own fault then? Thanks LBC for pointing that out.

[@laurapearson3370]

They are so far removed from the actual lives of the vast majority of British citizens it's staggering

[@globalist1990]

"We changed the party!" It's not Labour anymore.

[@AlaninValleSanLorenzo]

This interview confirms that people can be academically clever but not have a shred of common sense. Stephen Fry lives in a fluffy priveliged world completely unaffected by the problems experienced by the average Brit in Labours Britain.

[@fanmadechannelnocontentmad6763]

Sorry gents read the room, there are more views than yours.

[@itcouldbelupus2842]

What? Who said there aren't?

[@canopus101]

It is very plain that neither Marr nor Fry have the slightest idea of the reality faced by British people.

[@Dybbouk]

Who gives a toss about Stephen Fry's opinion?

[@infinitelyexhausted]

Me

[@Dybbouk]

@@infinitelyexhausted Pity you can't vote for him then

[@hemiolaguy]

Intelligent people.

[@stayhungry1503]

but he was a funny man on tv many decades ago. ofc we must latch on to his every word.

[@LetsTalkOnePiece]

Stephen Fry played Deitrich in V for Vendetta, if someone should see the comparisson between the charecter of Adam Sutler, and Keir Starmer it should be him.

[@jasonali4122]

The 'Smug Left' personified.

[@innovirtua]

I'm very surprised at Stephen. He used to be a National Treasure.

[@EwanNDW]

@@innovirtua he's hardly left

[@gawkthimm6030]

better than the 'hateful right'

[@rustyfeatherstone93]

@@innovirtua what's wrong with him?

[@Paul-zn2tb]

Lack of understanding of political science personified...very lazy use of left/right terminology, when anyone with an ounce of political insight knows how idiotic this over simplification is...

[@kevinmartin9800]

you smug coward Fry. You used to be honest.

[@undividedself1]

I like Stephen Fry. However, let's face it, his first book was called 'The Liar', and is confessional.

[@paulbrown7872]

Musk just oversaw one of the most difficult engineering achievements in history, parking a reusable rocket. Not sure these two jokers are qualified to comment on what makes him tick.

[@DeniseWilliams-jr5xo]

The public elected Labour because they wanted change sadly we aren't seeing any at all. Starmer is all for the rich and has no empathy or compassion for those of us who are struggling. He says the long term sick should get out to work not once does he address the fact that if you have long term illness you just won't get a job because employers won't employ people with health problems.

[@ArendJanV]

Isn’t he in power for like three months?

[@robinwhitebeam4386]

@@ArendJanV Politics is the art of planning for the future, so what Leaders say is important.

[@upness]

@@ArendJanV It has been a long 3 months tho'.

[@rosking7146]

Labour, Tory here we go again. Same old, same old. What did folk that vote for either expect?

[@jamespaul6315]

@@rosking7146 last time labour improved the country and tories wrecked it, so not unreasonable to hope for better

[@Lighting_Desk]

A lesser of two evils.

[@jamiebee1231]

The alternatives aren’t much better, Reform are mental, Greens are mental, the only other party worth voting for are the Lib Dem’s, but they won’t get in because of FPTP

[@terrypage358]

I was hopeful that Labour would be better, but unfortunately making things worse with the most sleepy bribe taking PM in history who only cares about stuffing his own pockets.

[@mikerotch5880]

I don't imagine Stephen Fry will be suffering from any of Starmer's attrocious policies, they probably go to the same dinner parties with the rest of their powdered-wig university friends.

[@jamess-shaw5464]

If you had money, would you give up caring about anything else in the world?

[@factstrumpprejudice6740]

If Fry lived under a bridge, would it change anything he says?

[@mikerotch5880]

@@factstrumpprejudice6740If he had elderly relatives who were depending on their winter fuel allowance or was dependant on his single person council tax reduction it would.

[@davidmiller1354]

He has earned his life and wealth. Highly intelligent, talented and compassionate man.

[@ibexdnb2879]

He aint't wrong though is he Michael....

[@undermuscled7381]

Fry illustrates very nicely that when you stray outside of your area of expertise you are just as ignorant as any amateur politician.

[@ClannCholmain]

How would you know?

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

Fry is a self appointed 'fake' intellectual who the masses admire simply because he's well read. But In reality he's just faking it, making all the right noses, quoting an obscure author or two to give the impression of intelligence.

[@johnclarke-vs9qe]

If they're all intelligent enough, what are the reasons for the litany of mistakes?

[@jamespaul6315]

Hubris

[@thechunkyone7118]

Loving

[@CuriousCrow-mp4cx]

Intelligence doesn't prevent people making mistakes. Why? Most people make their decisions subjectively, rather than objectively. And subjectivity is more vulnerable to being misled. It's as simple as that.

[@keithowen9929]

@@johnclarke-vs9qe Speculating here, but probably because all of the cleverest people are doing other things that earn them orders of magnitude more money than MPs get.

[@partyringsparty]

It's a very hard job and changes every single day. Also the press profit from it so will stop at nothing to bring you a non-story.

[@johnwinter5597]

Both full of their own self importance cannot stand them they couldn't lick Musk boots

[@opinion3742]

Oh come on! Don't worship musk. He is just money, and bad money at that!

[@Glasstable2011]

Glad you tuned in. I’ve got a link to a clip of someone scraping their nails down a chalkboard if you fancy a watch?

[@captaintorch983]

I notice that they dont linger on the total failure of Starmer and his cronies. It's hardly surprising! As for the comment from Marr that "we get angry at them for what's really us", well he speaks for himself not the majority of UK citizens!

[@suemorgan178]

I cannot, for the life of me understand that sentence

[@stevecorinthian]

The majority of citizens lack insight, that's the point.

[@routeman680]

@@suemorgan178 "what's really us"? I wonder whether he means the Labour party, and Marr himself along with his own leftst globalist crowd including the likes of Fry, are the ruling class.

[@upness]

Yeah, that was a really interesting comment. Isn't it a bit like saying the nation gets the government it deserves?

[@user-wt7pi3np1w]

"keir starmer is decent and normal" lol

[@originalbadboy32]

More decent than Boris or the utter empty vessel that is Farage.

[@christinehill8611]

Ha ha ha

[@GJH007]

Have you met him?

[@christinehill8611]

@@GJH007 have you.

[@sarahashun1180]

​​​@@GJH007Human rights lawyer! 🤣😂🤣

[@andyjones760]

Respect for coming off Twitter/X. Yet more respect to those of us who avoided it in the first place.

[@lookandlisten5740]

Yep..I remember Fry tweeting about being stuck in a lift back in the early days of twitter. So important was this that it made the BBC News...I realised then NEVER to waste my time with narcissistic drivel merchants.

[@loot6]

Stick to platforms that are censored by your government.

[@suzanneharris8339]

From the beginning, Twitter seemed like a colossal waste of time to me. But I guess there are some people who live there. 🤔

[@loot6]

@@suzanneharris8339 I guess you mean social media generally is a waste of time otherwise I don't see what's different about twitter.

[@marilyncatterall402]

So why quit Twitter, just block Elon Musk (like I did) and carry on enjoying the platform.

[@loot6]

Stephen wasted his time reading animal farm.

[@notjustforhackers4252]

Starmer...the final proof we can no longer vote Labour or indeed Tory.

[@MrDavidp180]

I agree, we need a shake up, with realistic polititions, policies and deliverance

[@peterm7548]

Yes lets all vote Reform UK and then see what bad government is really like!

[@pip1723]

I'll be voting labour 💯 %.

[@inthekeyofc]

Starmer should by now have fixed everything wrong with the UK while in his spare time have found a cure for cancer and world hunger. It's clear to see why people are disappointed. I suppose the only solution is to vote Reform next time. Right, Farage lovers?

[@rb1062]

Reform is the better choice.