Igneous with precision instrument should still be top tier. The only problem is needing that specific perk to not be outclassed by 140s
@kitanat99446 ай бұрын
There’s just something I enjoy about your content that I like watching even though I don’t play the game much anymore.
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
Glad to hear that
@jackmyers68216 ай бұрын
Nah g Lance is about to have it's second villain era
@JarJarFettLV6 ай бұрын
Been rocking an igneous with rapid hit/precision instrument & moving target for just about 2k kills. Just gonna swap from MT to PI once the patch drops.
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
Precision instrument is for sure gonna be the new meta perk for 120s
@ValiantNomad6 ай бұрын
@@FraDestinyThat and golden tricorn as well. Especially if you can get a grenade kill for the even juicier damage bonus
@theasiancow18606 ай бұрын
It's so dumb that bungie's solution to 120s being strong is to make high resilience the only counter and to make titans even stronger because of resilience gating. it's genius
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
CoolGuy made a video talking about resilience checks once the new update drops. Most weapons are actually losing their high resilience ttk checks. 120s are one of the only examples of a new resilience check. Still though, I would like to see health get standardized and resil be shifted more toward flinch resistance
@prettysoIdier6 ай бұрын
@@FraDestinyno. Resilience should always be tied to health. It’s the class differentiator. Complaining titans are harder to kill because of high resilience is similar to complaining how hunters have faster strafe speed. They should normalize strafe speed and just have mobility improve walk and crotch speeds. Sounds ridiculous. But hunters love their speed to the point they complained about the stompee nerf.
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
@@prettysoIdier Resilience influencing health leads to inconsistent gun fight experiences. Bungie is clearly aware of this as they are removing most of the resilience checks in the new update. Watch CoolGuys video on resilience in the new update
@prettysoIdier6 ай бұрын
@@FraDestinyin fully aware of the resilience check changes due to health changes but more importantly due to changes in the body shot damage nerf. Inconsistent gun fights is your citation for grievance is warranted but you can say inconsistency when a hunter jumps and their max height changes with mobility, strafe ADS speed is inconsistent because they peeked faster than the normal and got a shot off before you. Inconsistent cooldown where you try and time the opponent and push after they use an ability but don’t account for any builds where they get their ability back. The variation of health is part of the game, health has been this way since vanilla D1 when titans can spec their skill tree for 11 armor and 201 health. Titans will be more tankier by namesake, and since it’s tied to barricade cooldown, why wouldn’t a titan run 100 resilience.
@ValiantNomad6 ай бұрын
@@prettysoIdierAs a Warlock main, I'd like to hear your take on Recovery being tied to health regen then. We have by far the best way of tying our class stat into PvP efficiency, but I'd still argue all 3 classes shouldn't have to deal with resilience gating being a titan thing, and I'd be willing to have Bungie standardize health regen more to balance it out more as well.
@Barleh6 ай бұрын
2-tapping aside, i think 120's will still be a really strong option since team shooting will become even more effective, with the lack of grenades or cloudstrike to counter hand-holding
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
Yeah I’m over exaggerating their downfall with the title of the vid and the thumbnail. I do think 140s are going to increase in usage as a result of these changes but we’ll see
@kamuispams6 ай бұрын
precision instrument allows 2 heads one body
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
Yeah I know. I’m talking about the base functionality of 120s changing in the video
@lordkira97916 ай бұрын
I think crit crit body or crit body crit work. It can’t do body crit crit though. The first one HAS to be a crit
@glowiboi6 ай бұрын
Doesn't the left-bending Deterministic Recoil bother you? I think it should be way less horizontal the higher the stat. Otherwise what's the point of building into it with barrels?
@xlinnaeus3 ай бұрын
You should keep it at either 100 or 95 and never change it so you learn the recoil pattern and get better with it over time.
@TheCripPlays9356 ай бұрын
Precision instrument will allow Igneous to 2 crit 1 body still at any recil, get to grinding in trials.
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
I already have 1500+ kills on a god roll igneous adept with precision instrument. I’m ready for March 5th
@Thatlifeisstrangeguy6 ай бұрын
Bungie just digging a bigger grave for pvp update after update
@ilredelnulla98376 ай бұрын
you mean making crucible a better place
@ImmaculateOtter6 ай бұрын
Wait, so High Impact hand cannons will need to 3 crit to clear all resiliences? That makes them just flat worse than Adaptives.
@ImmaculateOtter6 ай бұрын
Igneous Hammer is now the auto rifle to Rose’s machine gun.
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
They will need a 3 tap headshot from like tier 7 or 8 resilience and up. Mid to low resiliences will still die to a 2 headshot 1 body. And precision instrument bypasses the resilience check altogether.
@ImmaculateOtter6 ай бұрын
@@FraDestiny gotcha. So with Precision Instrument, they still fulfill that niche. Seems that perk will be the only way to make them useful now.
@ImmaculateOtter6 ай бұрын
2:28 How did you do that?
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
I have my jump button bound to my scroll wheel. So when I scroll my mouse it rapidly boosts and when you do it on uphill surfaces it can launch you.
@Nykthos16 ай бұрын
Of all the pvp changes, the nerf to these bastards is the change im most excited about.
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t get too excited. Precision instrument bypasses the resilience check and allows 120s to 2 headshot 1 body. They are still going to be very good. You’ll most likely just see more 140s being used
@navdeepsingh35086 ай бұрын
They need to make matches longer man. Shit is over too fast. Im waiting longer in orbits
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
Considering how much bungie struggles to balance matches, having matches last longer is just going to draw out bad matchups for even longer and people we’ll be even more likely to leave. Rumble matches are pretty fast and people still leave them constantly. The same issue exists in 6v6. We just need more players playing crucible to speed up queue times.
@navdeepsingh35086 ай бұрын
@@FraDestiny i get your point, but coming back to destiny after year and crucible feels even worse. Maps feel dead in PvP now. Back then it used to be chaos in casual modes.
@JanPapiezGaming6 ай бұрын
Good I played 120s/dmt meta in stasis era, didn't touch the game by long time but I still watch news about it here and there, maybe the will fix PvP in destiny 3 copium xD
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
The original 120 meta was crazy with how easy two taps were to get. They are making some interesting changes in March but it mostly feels like they are moving back toward d2 year 1 meta which was a really boring era imo.
@torturedkfpemployee8836 ай бұрын
yes this is has but 180s keep getting stealth hit
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
Yeah 180s have been completely forgotten at this point. In my opinion, they should have the same range scalar as 120s considering they kill at the same speed and require more shots to hit. And they have low base range stats so right now they feel like a close quarters weapon that sucks in close quarters.
@torturedkfpemployee8836 ай бұрын
@@FraDestiny it's really the lacking range that hurt them the most you ether tank your stability for high range or get some stability at the cost of drop off
@bigmacmc32986 ай бұрын
igneous still can 2 head 1 body if you use precision instument
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
I know. You’ll basically need a damage perk of some kind to guarantee a 2 head 1 body kill in the new update which hurts perks like opening shot, eye of the storm, and others that occupy the same perk column as all the damage perks.
@bigmacmc32986 ай бұрын
true but still i think thats not a big L since p.i. is already a really good choice for igneous in terms of overshields and stuff@@FraDestiny
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
@@bigmacmc3298 Precision instrument is on my igneous god roll and I haven’t taken it off since I got it. It’s amazing for killing players with over shields from barricades and rifts. However, even that aspect of it is taking a hit. I don’t think it will 3 tap a Titan with an over shield anymore.
@MrBlackJaQ6 ай бұрын
What mobility do you play on Warlock?
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
I always play low mobility. 20-40 at most
@ilredelnulla98376 ай бұрын
120 will still be fine
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
Yeah they will. I just wanted to get some gameplay of them 2 tapping and still having that extra level of forgiveness that they are losing.
@kitanat99446 ай бұрын
Honestly, it’s kinda hard to say they’ll be fine. The slowest ttk weapon in the game that’s already the most unforgiving for missed shots will now also become more unforgiving. The way I see it, this will only promote the more passive, long-distance playstyles with teamshooting. I can’t imagine many people using them for dueling in the future unless they have Precision Instrument.
@0ptimusLime6 ай бұрын
@@kitanat9944As soon as I saw the details of the patch for 03/05, my immediate concern was things reverting back to the super lame "Long Range Team Shot" meta. I hope it doesn't play out that way. It's sooooo boring.
@ilredelnulla98376 ай бұрын
as a hc main i think hc should always only needs hs for optimal ttk, that or nerf the insane AA they have @@kitanat9944
@ImmortalWolf5266 ай бұрын
so its not a goodbye more like itll require you to be more skilled with it?
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
It will require you to be more skilled with it, while 140s will continue to kill the same way they used to. I think 120s will still be good but 140s will probably rise up in usage a bit
@teddystyles6 ай бұрын
How you do that super boost at 2:28 and is it possible in controller?
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
I have my jump button bound to my scroll wheel on my mouse. So I can scroll up and boost rapidly. It’s not something you can do on controller
@tortelinilecker6 ай бұрын
@@FraDestiny so i have a question. when im playing on console but with mouse and keyboard. would it work then?
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
@@tortelinilecker It should work if you have the ability to bind the jump button to the scroll wheel. But, hopefully you will get banned for cheating before you can use it a lot
@SuperSaiyanSandwich1256 ай бұрын
@@tortelinilecker loser
@ValiantNomad6 ай бұрын
@@FraDestinyYeep guy just straight up gave away he's using a XIM LOL
@HighFiveGhostenjoyer4286 ай бұрын
Fuck handcannons in pvp. Lets bury 140s next!
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
I don’t think you understand how bad the meta can get when handcannons aren’t in it. The other weapons in this game like smgs, pulses, and bows are significantly less fun to fight against. They also operate in ranges that are annoying to fight in
@0ptimusLime6 ай бұрын
@@FraDestinyBased solely off the comment. I think that is what they are hoping for. Which is a shame. Long range rifle metas are super boring and, in my opinion, unhealthy for the game as a whole.
@blebreton066 ай бұрын
If I had the power to fix one, Nerf one, buff ine, break one thing in the game… Break AE Nerf sbmm Fix melee whiff Buff connection based solo q match making
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
By saying break AE do you mean making all guns perfectly accurate in the air at base and the AE stat just giving more and more aim assist as you build into it. If so I completely agree
@cosmo12256 ай бұрын
scrub
@0ptimusLime6 ай бұрын
I really hope things dont shift to a "Long Range Rifle Team Shot" meta. Its unhealthy for the game and really boring in my opinion.
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
As long as the 3 new maps were getting cater toward mid to close range engagement we should be fine
@blebreton066 ай бұрын
Precision instrument 😂 remake your video
@FraDestiny6 ай бұрын
I’m aware of precision instrument bypassing the resilience check. Still, you have to run a perk that you didn’t need to before just to kill in 2 headshots and 1 body