A Farmer Reacts to My Grocery Row Gardens (And Shares What You Need for Small Farm Success)

[@davidthegood]

Learn more about Noah and his work: Born Again Dirt: amzn.to/3A5vVVP Educational membership site: www.redeemingthedirtacademy.com Main website: www.redeemingthedirt.com Also, www.wellwateredgardenproject.org Noah on KZbin: kzbin.info... Learn about David's Grocery Row Garden system: amzn.to/3jPvbyc Joel Salatin's books: amzn.to/3yRI6Ef

[@danfay4860]

I downloaded and plan to share WWG with local churches

[@williamvillar7134]

This is great, I really like the different perspectives being discussed. My wife hates my food forest. I have overextended myself many times because I am the only one doing this. My family really aren't interested but I don't let it deter me. Frustrating sometimes, yes, but not deterred. I think working a full-time job gets in the way for a lot of people, it certainly does for me, especially when things like mandatory overtime are a thing. Trying to balance that with family life and taking on a garden or farm on any scale can be intimidating.

[@betsylongoria8916]

It is a challenge to know how much to take on. I keep believing my family when they say they are all in, but I am repeatedly disappointed when I see what "all in" really means to them.

[@danfay4860]

Right there with you but I have grandkids that enjoy being in the garden and if you grow things your wife likes to eat she will be more engaged. Keep doing what you like !

[@morningsareforcoffee1211]

William, I really get what you are saying. Same for me. I also work a demanding job, work 90 hrs 7 days in a row then have hopefully 6 or 7 days off if I don’t get called back in to the hospital due to staffing issues or hospital full of COVID which has been then case here in TN for the last several weeks. My family is not interested in the garden, especially when it is hot, and the garden gets ignored for the 7 days that I work 12 to 14 hr shifts. Hubby helped this year make many things easier with raised beds (Less weeding!) and on an automatic timer for watering however vegetable gardens don’t do great when ignored for 7 days in a row. I just do the best I can because I feel we NEED to know how to garden, raise some of our own food and I enjoy it when it is not 100 degrees. Let’s hope we can retire while our health is still good and we have more time with the garden then!

[@journimorrison9387]

Don’t worry they’ll be thanking you when the inflation hits

[@brucedownunda7054]

I'd get rid of the wife...

[@Verena1720]

Gardening is the way of the future for America and much of the world. Can't rely on the supply chain.

[@MissMultiConsole]

this is true especially right now with all the food shortages and whatnot.

[@AM-dc5yz]

🎯

[@Clogmonger]

@@MissMultiConsole *manufactured food shortages

[@davidthegood]

I agree.

[@NoNORADon911]

You think ''they'' are just going to leave us be to do our thing? The beast system is working hard to make sure we are ALL part of it...that said do the best with what you have where you are...but don't kid yourselves...this is not getting better, voting won't fix it, protesting won't fix it, we are being lied to more than most can comprehend. I'm really holding back here, beating around the bush is not my thing but don't want to get too heavy and also the A.I. algo will auto delete my comment if I say too many key words it feels threatened by.

[@cleonawallace376]

This was honestly one of the most insightful you tube videos I've ever watched (and i watch a lot! 😬🤭). I am the stereotype new gardener, who dove in with grand ideas. I've learned so much in the past months, but this has really made me realistic about my goals as a homesteader. I love the idea of joy as an indicator too 💗💗💗

[@LMKTinyForest]

I realized that I am so lucky I don't have to think about Managing my garden to feed anyone besides myself and my cats. I have learned so many things from this video. Thank you very much. Big heart from Thailand.

[@boydchapman5660]

+1 Thumbs up for Rachel. You are a great camera woman. Keep up the great work.

[@NoNORADon911]

Yes halfway through I was thinking dang they could have just used a tripod ha... I used to audio tape concerts from 1996-2012, many times I was a human mic stand. I got confronted at a reggae show for not dancing once haha and so many other stories.

[@hamhawk4027]

We need to bring back Victory Gardens. It might not be a shooting war but it's a war on climate change, food insecurity, malnourishment, and everything else.

[@michealnelson5179]

Today on “Liberty Gardens,” with David the Good...

[@rossplainold1565]

Victory Gardens were renamed. They now call them Master Gardening. Most states Ag departments have classes on how to become a Master Gardener

[@2Mushy]

Just started mine!!

[@classicrocklover5615]

I call mine a Freedom Gardey

[@a22024]

'Climate change' lmao You are the carbon they want to reduce

[@geraldfranz9085]

That's a whole lot of info and joy shoved into a short timespan, me likey. Great chemistry and interaction between DTG and Noah. What a Wealth of information tied up in both of these gentlemen. Awesome interview and video, going back for seconds, lol. 😎👍👉💥🛎🌱🌱🌱🌱

[@briangable08]

I had to watch this again so that I could take notes, . The four rules(guides) are now written in the fly leaf of my copy of Charles Dowding's Diary for a no dig garden, I have been filling in failures and successes in the Diary since moving here in Aug 2017, after 28 years in a wild garden. Really love DtG stuff.

[@GemstonePhilosophy]

A lot of important considerations to make from this commentary. I appreciate, most especially, what is being discussed about overextending and maintaining joy, and similarly, the idea that our work ethic is an extension of that joy. It puts things in perspective as to why I don't feel like working in the soil is work, yet I can be more productive than the best of them. I never get tired of it, but I always take time to enjoy my surroundings, especially when I have made improvements to the landscape. I can relate with that satisfaction felt the following days, and even weeks, months, or years later. Nothing is more satisfying than seeing the benefit to your efforts, especially when those benefits equal a lush and healthy landscape.

[@truthseeker1364]

That really hit home with me when you saidIt's all about the joy and without the joy you don't have any motivation and it's mainly from overwhelming yourself. That's my biggest problem

[@Green.Country.Agroforestry]

I love substituting daylily petals for lettuce in a salad .. they produce every day, don't need to be planted year after year, and the ones that I don't pick look pretty. Now that I have Cannas in addition to a few varieties of hemerocallis, the salad greens are coming in for most of the spring and summer season .. but it would be tough selling the petals. They don't have any shelf life at all, and the casual shopper who does not know that they are better tasting and far more nutritious than lettuce wouldn't buy them.

[@lisalph8922]

Great info. I didn't know petals were more nutritious than lettuce.

[@qualqui]

LOL....I guess the same applies to corn smut, aka 'Mexican Truffles', amongst us Mexicans its so good and almost as expensive as ordinary meat, I can see the grocery produce aisle in some major city in the U.S. fully stocked with corn smut globules in those little styrofoam trays, covered with saran wrap and only Mexicans buying them, and American peeps....ewww.....I'm sticking to GOOD veggies and 'shrooms!

[@Green.Country.Agroforestry]

@@qualqui The grocery store that I go to on occasion will put out prickly pears .. traditional food for the Osage and Pawnee, although the ones that they (the grocery store) get are from Mexico. They grow wild here, but you have to be lucky to get the fruit before someone or something else gets to it. Most of the customers have no idea what it is, or how to prepare it though

[@TheEnglishladyskitchengarden]

Gladioli flowers look amazing in the garden and beautiful in salads. Nice mild taste too.

[@Green.Country.Agroforestry]

@@TheEnglishladyskitchengarden In flower from July through August .. there's another good one for the salad bowl ~petals only~ for that one, though

[@haddone8054]

a great thing back in New England, a store chain spotlighted different produce, what to look for for freshness, what you can do with it, recipes etc....and on specific days had samples and take home cards so you could taste before purchasing. I thought that was a wonderful idea, we embraced trying new foods through this type of introduction.

[@HomeStudioBasics]

Good to see you brothers acknowledging God! God Bless you both.

[@ajeldrez777]

This was a great conversation. Glad you recorded it and shared it with us David. Thanks to your guest as well. I had never thought about how it is more productive to plant in a small area with well fertilized soil than in a large area of poor soil. Great point

[@coryhyatt2035]

Great info can be drawn from this video. But, I missed the part where he reacts to the grocery row garden. A+ to Rachel for holding the camera that long!

[@SuzyBoudreaux]

So true about keeping the joy!! A little tougher at the moment in southeastern Louisiana where it's still so HOT but watching my fall plants start from seed is my joy for now! Thanks again for sharing!

[@jenniferm3572]

Oh honey same here in Texas on all of it. Happy to have these seedlings popping everywhere. Happy growing to you 😊

[@loriwestern9103]

Arizona here, challenging in a different way for sure.

[@juliehorney995]

This year I am transitioning 3 fruit guilds, developed last year from 3 fruit trees, into a food forest strip. We live in an HOA so I made an extra effort to make it look nice. The fruit trees now are thriving. The response from others has been positive yet very detached. No one, even a gal who plans on planting fruit trees this year, wants to do the extra work to enhance success plus create a simple food growing system of a fruit guild. She has a veg garden and loves to preserve her harvest. She should "get it," right? Proposed solution: Sell fruit tree guild packages! One tree, 2 fruit or nut bushes, 1 comfrey, 7 strawberry plants, 1 purple coneflower or rudbecki fulgida, and a perennial herb such as oregano or chives. We are in zone 5b/6a in NE Indiana. Are you listening Burpee? Could be menu-driven for a package price of $99.

[@betsylongoria8916]

Thanks for the perspective. I think I am at the place where I want to grow alot for my family, but be good enough at it that I end up with extra to give away.

[@davidthegood]

Yes, definitely.

[@herrickkimball]

Nice one guys. Well-managed small garden spaces can be surprisingly productive and certainly do bring a great deal of satisfaction and joy. This realization usually comes after years of gardening experience.👍

[@rickytorres9089]

Noah Sanders so much wonderfully stated THE POINT of you are having to following the market's rules if you are providing to the mass markets. That is why I failed so much of doing my own rules of doing services. Because as long as you are providing to the masses you really can't. That why I like ideas and basises of "plant garage sales" and other minimal "businesses" approaches. That way you can have MUCH of the accountabilities and responsibilities to the you in as much or as little as the general markets. You might not sell anything, but at least you didn't try to to SURVIVE HAVING doing so.

[@markfomenko8873]

I made a small garden with wide rows by pulling the thin topsoil from the walkways into the rows with a hoe. There was no roto-tilling. The walkways were mulched with a lot of rotten sawdust and leaf litter. Drip irrigation too. Weed daily with a hoe if you want good results. Easy and productive.

[@geraldfranz9085]

Wow, even better the 2nd time around. Excellent interview DTG, and big props to yo camera lady. What a "GOOD" team !!! Y'all rock, much love, peace. PS ....... Thanks for sharing. 😎👍🌱

[@sparktoolife]

Great video guys. Lots of wisdom. ❤

[@codedesigns9284]

Even though the talk was 9 months ago, I really resonated with the conversation and found myself agreeing with a lot of what was said - the joy level, not taking on more than one can handle, and more. Being in a zone 3, our windows of growing are so narrow that so much needs to be done in such a short amount of time, that it can impede on the joy level to a degree. Self assess, self assess, self assess. Excellent video with a lot of great information! 😀

[@franciscosilver6644]

"... My joy limit". I had to hear all this today. Thanks guys!

[@rachelhall4808]

I will be watching this more than a few times. The advice Noah shared absolutely resonated with me!! I have had more than a few struggles in my garden this year and I think it’s because I was so successful last year I thought to myself “more, bigger, better” and I over extended myself. I lost momentum and couldn’t keep up. I lost my joy. I should have treated the same space even better this year instead of letting my eyes become bigger than my stomach, so to speak. Now I have catching up to do to get to where I was last year. I have learned a lot in my failures though. I just needed to hear exactly this message! Thank you so much!

[@davidthegood]

He is very encouraging and practical.

[@NorthernThaiGardenGuy]

great conversation. was just what I needed to hear.

[@onsitecomposting9028]

Beautiful episode and beautiful wisdom shared! Very inspired! 🙏💚

[@drewsfoodforest_tv]

I’m using the grocery Row Gardens as my layout for a school garden project I’m working on this year

[@davidthegood]

That is a really fun project! Good for you.

[@drewsfoodforest_tv]

I’ll have to share pictures of the project

[@mamagrotgrows]

“Monitor your joy levels”... Love it! Going to try applying that more widely.

[@MeganSherow]

Really loved the video! Loved the analogy of learning to play the violin…with all skills we need time to practice before we show our friends and strangers. Great reminder that we have to commit to failing and being not great at something before we can succeed 🌻

[@lisakelley9451]

That was a fascinating & helpful conversation. Thanks!

[@GuitarKitchen]

Great music/gardening analogy!

[@SouthFloridaSunshine]

Yes, that helped me so much to understand my own growing journey.

[@SugarCreekOffGrid]

Awesome conversation guys!!!

[@mommahat2061]

This video was very encouraging to me! Life happens and my garden is a mess right now. I look forward to digging in and getting it done. Thank you for your time and the encouragement to continue to do what I love! You all are a blessing!

[@iwantthesmokereviews8198]

Thank you for this. So many powerful lessons .

[@8507582]

I live in North Carolina but I'm buying David's crazy Florida gardening for my friends that live in Florida. They love it!

[@rosehavenfarm2969]

That was a wonderful discussion. Thank you.

[@doinacampean9132]

Maybe you should try tomatoes with blueberries, both like acidic soils, and when you're done with them, cut their stems at soil level and don't disturb the soil by taking them out of the ground. But they both have shallow roots. Maybe you could try King Stropharia, or comfrey.

[@Roescoe]

Noah Sanders looks like a giant, must be all the good food. Thanks for keeping my growing dreams realistic.

[@barbebrown7753]

Great reality check! Thank you

[@crystalh733]

YYAAYYYY Panama City Beach!!!!

[@martinacusack9867]

Thanks for introducing your friend to us viewers. Good chat and even a few smiles. Makes me want to do better( with joy)

[@bryanmilne]

So many people don't seem to understand that one of the most fundamental aspects of permaculture design is the zone system. High (frequent) maintenance/managment systems are placed in zone 1. Lower (less frequent) maintenance/management systems go in the other zones. The more time and energy it requires from human interaction the cliser in proximity it should be located to human activity and scaled in size to match human capability as well. The other zones are where a permaculture design locates systems that still require "management" but much less frequently as these systems should for the most be part be the highly symbiotic abd complex perennial systems that to some extent run on "auto-pilot". In tgese zones it is far less like gardening and more like wildcrafting.

[@caseymarion7273]

I truly appreciate diverse and even opposing viewpoints/schools of thought that respect and honor the other persons expertise and results, aka David and Noah! Awesome to hear them both and their takes on it all

[@janebadon3988]

The joy discussion was most helpful...nobody talks about that aspect!

[@davidthegood]

I hadn't thought about it - I loved that he shared that.

[@bryanmilne]

The future is not to grow food for 30 families on some farm. The future is to turn the land those 30 fmilies live on into farms/food forests! The service provided is to design, build and managw those "gardens" and organize/coordinate harvest and food prep/storage activities as eco-recreation

[@SerRegenera]

thanks David for all the content you share on your channel!! verey inspiring and a unique way of doing/transmit things.. love and bless from Uruguay Inti

[@Blackwaterswamp]

This is the best video I have seen. Perspective and accountability are keys to success

[@FebbieG]

Fabulous video! I'll be coming back to this one again and again, me thinks.

[@dantheman9135]

ThankQ

[@derekclawson4236]

I was a vendor at a local festival earlier this year. I'm in a rinky dink southern town where nobody hardly eats anything out of the American norm. So I had brought bunches of peppers and tomatoes for the crowd that wouldn't touch the exotics. I did sell many peppers and tomatoes but I was shocked at how well the exotics sold. Sold out of moringa, katuk, chaya, etc and left with many peppers and tomatoes still. Certainly was a pleasant surprise.

[@crystalh733]

Monitor your joy bc that's where your work ethic comes from.

[@busyrand]

That was an absolute treat... I learned a lot and felt very reset in terms of how much space is actually needed for what I want to do.

[@terrieholloway9066]

Great info thanks!!

[@RJack1915]

We just harvested some late growing shittaki and oyster mushrooms this night and made some great soup. Because in a couple of days our lows will be in the single digits as in 6 and 8 degrees F.

[@nathanaelstunt7317]

Useful, thanks!

[@deanthornby2026]

Playing the violin ...what a great way of putting it ...

[@elizebethparker5412]

What a great video from two of my favorite garden writers!

[@davidthegood]

That is so kind of you.

[@randyj.2989]

Love this guest you had on. It was great to listen in on this conversation.

[@hummingbirdhillhomestead]

What an excellent video! Noah has so much insight to share. I came across his book years ago and purchased it. Lots of wisdom between the two of you!

[@kylenathanmitchell6283]

Grate video! loved the podcast vibe, talk and insight.

[@danr308]

The 4 principles feel like they may change my life.

[@lisakukla459]

Great discussion! I could listen to small scale growers and old school farmers all day. (Sometimes I do)

[@susanjordan2130]

Me too

[@MrDAHSIN]

Super video! I need to re-listen to this every day for a few weeks.

[@2gkims427]

LOVED THIS! THANK YOU, DAVID! 👍🤠🤸

[@carolschedler3832]

Bing watching 🤣❤️

[@prattacaster]

This is my second year with a small plot 14x18. It's split into 7 beds with small aisles for access. It was pretty productive last year but this year I've already harvested over a gallon of blackberries, good bit of strawberries and raspberries. Tomatoes are as tall as me already and I have a ton of jalapenos fruit growing. Still learning what works best as I did a bit of interplanting this year. Channels like this have been super helpful. Thanks!!

[@JF-bd2np]

Start a sprout garden, microgreens or mushroom. It seems they are in high demand and quick turnaround in the case of sprouting.

[@kerem7546]

lol HUGE learning curve with mushrooms

[@LB-vl3qn]

Smart man. Thanks for introducing him to us. ~ Lisa

[@takeitslowhomestead5218]

Great and informative discussion! Thank you once again for the inspiration!

[@johnsauls4983]

David , always enjoy your videos. I've grown up in Florida but never stop learning. Switched to perineal veggies where I can. Brevard county is a great place to grow food. Just purchased, Crazy easy Florida, grocery row, and start your own nursery. Looking forward to gleaning from them.

[@davidthegood]

Thank you, John.

[@karenhalse9586]

What are perennial veggies?

[@karenhalse9586]

By the way, I lived in Brevard for many yrs, 1968 to 1985, now in North Alabama.

[@sarahkaboya7761]

So grateful for this, David and Noah!! On so many levels: have had multiple questions answered

[@bevfitzsimmonds3382]

Really good teaching, guys! Spot On. Good principles for life! Thankyou. God bless.

[@emilyacevedo4746]

I aim for producing more and we have chickens and sometimes pigs that consume any waste which saves on feed costs. That’s the thing I’ve learned this year- efficient symptoms that work off of each other’s waste. I understand what he’s saying about overproduction being the highest form of waste though. I like his moderation stance. Kind of like in Proverbs 19:2, zeal without knowledge.

[@sansomspressurecleaningpoo9519]

God bless y’all thanks for posting

[@123gwilco]

DTG, I really like your channel. You are NOT boring. i also like rob Greenfield's channel. I am trying to start a surburban homesteader. Both of you talk about survival crops, especially for a surbuban area.

[@davidthegood]

Thank you, I appreciate it.

[@ethanmcquaid1]

As a 2nd year market farmer this strikes a chord. It is a lifestyle and a full time commitment and I don't mean a 40 hour week lol.

[@johnarmlovesguam]

A farmer's philosopher works. Nice.

[@midkiffsjoy]

Forests are vital because they give wildlife somewhere other than your yard to live. Cougers in your front yard is not fun when you have snack sized children. I have always contemplated growing a market garden just to be able to feed my family of 8 and have enough to put away for winter. The SECOND I watched Rachel's video picking angle gourd I went looming for it. Turns out Baker Creek calls it luffa and I didn't realize it's the same thing. They're out of stock tho so I braved eBay. New and interesting vegtables rock. And summer squash is amazing pickled.

[@homegrowntruth]

Fabulous video! I have learned so much from you and Noah. Sorry you didn’t get to take video at Noah’s. Perhaps it was because we stopped by unexpectedly.🤣 May God bless both of you and your families.

[@davidthegood]

We were so busy - too much time with people, but that was fine. People are more important. Glad we met you.

[@jettyeddie_m9130]

DTG your Gardens looking awesome man and I agree until you experience the challenges that your specific grow space has to offer and figure out how to “work with them “ you can watch all the perfect gardens and back to eden gardening vidjas you want your gonna have a hard time til you go through the “ringer “ , I went through it for about 4 years before I actually started to see actual production , thanks DTG for the knowledge! 🙏

[@jeslynnebrown1979]

This was awesome! Love the principles you shared and the perspective 😊

[@NormanAllan53]

I've watched David for quite awhile. Not before this video did I recognize why my recent joy has been lost due to the simplest dilemma. Now retired my 10 x 10 ft garden went in too many directions when all I really wanted was to produce one or two vegetables. After all , how much can I eat considering at least half of what I grew ended up going to the local birdlife which I really enjoy watching.

[@susanciviletto7024]

Yes I for one enjoyed the learning experience ☺

[@Gundolf2056]

Actually most people who fail, dont fail in garden managment, they fail in owning land : ) But that would be a very different topic...

[@Roescoe]

Most people don't even buy the violin.

[@Gundolf2056]

@@Roescoe True, they play the world's tiniest violin cause that is all that they have. But are you going to play now or just talk about it? Common I know you want to...

[@Roescoe]

@@Gundolf2056 Funny thing is I actually bought a violin and took lessons for a while, I need to find a new teacher and continue. With gardening I'm looking for a place I can get hands on.

[@scottmyself8648]

Awesome video! I would love to meet some people like you and exchange ideas, maybe even have a beer.

[@Carol-nv6py]

Thank you! GREAT video

[@qualqui]

Missed the Goodstream David, but here enjoying every moment of this visit Noah made to your Grocery Rows Garden, MAN that dude is tall, he's only a wee bit taller than you! Thank you for sharing, liked and greetings from a rainy Querétaro!

[@williamrobinson4265]

nice to see americans talking about an awareness of overproduction! farmers are on the most intimate front lines of our economy and health

[@Patriot-od6xk]

Great video, great open honest discussion. ✌️

[@SouthernLatitudesFL]

Excellent discussion.

[@stephaniez2]

Great educational video. Thanks 😊

[@lynettetucker5236]

Hi David ❤️ the video today great conversation and information.🤔 it will make you think about the different ways to grow in your garden thanks.

[@grantperkins368]

Very interesting! Thanks!

[@jennywhite6907]

I’ve been n having a terrible time trying to grow in 9b central Florida. First mistake was planting seeds that are for temperate climates, not knowing what to use for aphids and spider mites! And not knowing when to let a plant go! I have 9 foot tomatoes with leaves only the top 2 feet because of fungus or bugs and I keep trying to save them

[@geraldfranz9085]

I live in the same zone and I've come to realize that I really suck at growing veggies. But thanks to DTG and other tubers, I'm slowly learning what to grow in this area. David's books have been a tremendous help, plus realizing that it ain't over, until it's over. Each year I'm getting better and better, so basically I only kinda suck at growing veggies. It's the journey that makes it all worthwhile. That and when you finally grow a good crop, lol. Like David says, "you've got to kill a lot of things before you get better". I think the best thing I took away from today's video is "proper management". Basically it all comes down to me and how I manage my garden space. Keep growing, keep learning, don't sweat the small stuff, and celebrate even the smallest of victories. 😎👍

[@melissajalil9884]

Same! I garden in Miami, zone 11 and after my first season, I realized I have a flipped garden schedule to the more temperate states. As well, the typical veggie we find in our super markets don’t necessarily grow well in our tropical climates bc their veggies can’t hang in our constant heat & humid year round. So when I find the equivalent tropical veggie to a temperate veggie I go for the tropical seeds/plant and find much more success there!

[@johnsauls4983]

Planted my first garden in 9b 48 years ago. My mom encouraged me all the way. Try , Malabar, Okinawa spinach, katuk, moringa, sweet potatoes and yard long beans. That's a good start. Mulch like crazy !

[@fadista7063]

I am in 10a and summer is very challenging. Go for tropicals and heat tolerant, try to create microclimates within your property. It is challenging, I agree!

[@GreenerShadeRC]

I am in Central Florida as well. Summer gardens are very challenging here; my tomatoes are the same. They do not like the heat followed by the rain followed by heat. I am trying the Everglade tomatoes with seeds from Daisy the Good this fall. She has an Esty store.

[@janebadon3988]

Much food for thought...thank you!

[@the_qct_collective]

This is just such a terrific video. Thank you for this. As a true beginning gardener, I have encountered an unexpected challenge when planning what to grow, much like what is discussed here. I'm asking myself a question I never thought I would ask myself; what will we actually use in the kitchen and eat?

[@JDK45ACP]

These are great points. Thanks much.