A Feast for Odin VS Agricola | An Uwe Big Box Showdown (2 Years in the Making!)

[@chloebackshall4588]

I haven't played either but I've looked at Feast for Odin before. And after watching this I think I am TEAM FEAST. But I would like to play both at some point.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Chloe! Congratulations, your comment was randomly selected as the winner of the giveaway! If you can reply to this comment as receipt that you've seen that you've won and then also email us at [e-mail], we can work on getting the prize sent to you! Congrats again, thanks for watching and, of course, thanks for choosing the CORRECT side. Team Feast. ;) - Dylann

[@chloebackshall4588]

Thank you so much.

[@kylaulbricht]

@@chloebackshall4588 Congratulations!!!

[@g8kpr3000]

Wow. Congratulations

[@AllYouCanBoard]

💥10K SUBS GIVEWAWAY💥 Reply to this video by taking a side, either TEAM FEAST or TEAM AGRICOLA. This automatically enters you in the giveaway. On March 7, we'll reply to the comment of the winner who is randomly selected, so make sure to check back to see if you were picked! The winner will receive either A Feast for Odin or Agricola (their choice) sent to their address! If you own both already, you can choose another Uwe Rosenberg game of your choice (as long as it's readily available and we can buy it for you!) Thanks to everyone for helping us reach 10k subs and we hope you enjoy this long-awaited video!

[@scottaldersey5115]

Team Agricola! But the correct answer is actually Fields of Arle

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Interesting pick! We really need to play that one, I've been trying to buy it for a while. - Carlo

[@mushihimesarna728]

TEAM AGRICOLA! A much better game. I don't like fiddly sandbox adventures with little interaction and no urgency.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Agricola is still, by far, my #1 game of all-time, but since we filmed this we've tried A Feast for Odin with the Norwegians expansion and that definitely improves the game. It's still nowhere near the level of Agricola for me, but if you only tried AFFO base game I'd recommend giving it another shot with the expansion. #TeamAgricola - Carlo

[@Zero0Kenshin]

I've played, have, and enjoy both. Prefer A Feast for Odin overall as I find there is more varied strategy you can employ. Carlo lost me at 26:09 when mentioning Terraforming Mars. If you are 2/3rds of the way through Terraforming Mars new cards should only be kept (as you have to pay to keep them) if they play heavily into your strategy and you can see them paying themselves off quickly. I will add that the issue you have with nothing to do with cards that don't play into your strategy in AFFO is fixed by The Norwegians expansion. It adds the option to get rid of an occupation when you could otherwise play it to score bonus points. I'd say it resolves most issues I had with the base game and makes it a more streamlined experience. If you haven't played it yet I highly reccomend it, I don't play without it anymore.

[@drbasseri]

TEAM FEAST!! although the setup is a beast, I find it more relaxing and less restrictive

[@MrAlive1988]

Great video. I would say .. if you are gonna spend a whole hour comparing these two games (they absolutely deserve it!) .. but at that point I do think it’s fair to include the expansions in the discussion of which is ultimately the better game. Sounds like y’all haven’t played with Norwegians much but for me this is what places Feast as the clear number one. Team FEAST! That said when I think about which game I could play forever it might be Agricola as I think at a certain point Feast becomes more clear on what strategies are most viable (not there yet but I suspect this could be more possible since the cards are so much less relevant to the broader strategy). Thanks for the vid!

[@AllYouCanBoard]

We haven't played any expansions for either game actually! Aside from some additional card decks for Agricola. But Dylann recently got The Norwegians finally, so we'll try it out soon. Sounds like your assessment of your short-term vs long-term enjoyment of both games could mirror exactly how I feel, it just so happens I've played Agricola over 150 times now and I've played Feast around 20 or 25 times. I've lost the urge to play Feast a bit (hopefully The Norwegians changes that) but I still absolutely love Agricola with every play. Thanks for watching! - Carlo

[@Spock800]

Next time you come over for dinner I’m gonna put some silver on the table and you can go to the market and buy yourself some food. I laughed way too hard at that.

[@jonathanauffarth5646]

Team Neither...play Fields are Arle instead!!!!!

[@AllYouCanBoard]

If I could find it in stock anywhere I certainly would. Not interested in buying overpriced used copies and paying for shipping though. Hopefully I can find it somewhere locally soon! - Carlo

[@tommansfield2378]

What an epic 10k special. You guys never disappoint. TEAM AGRICOLA ALL DAY

[@jinsoloboardgames]

I know I passed the give away day, but I just wanted to say Team Feast of Odin! Mind you, I haven’t played either game but FoO seems really cool, and it is on my next by list!

[@syklonic]

I never played A Feast for Odin because I didn't enjoy Agricola very much. I really should try to find the time to give it a shot, but I probably need a more reliable gaming group first :(

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Yeah, they're not easy games to get to the table, but as much as it pains me to say this, A Feast for Odin is the easier one to convince people to play (I think). Not only the theme but it's more forgiving and you can't mess with your opponents as much, so everyone is more likely to enjoy their first play. - Carlo

[@debbiemalin6007]

I’m team feast for Odin.lol I haven’t played Agricola. What makes Agricola your favorite

[@AllYouCanBoard]

If you have an hour to spare you can find out in detail through this video!

[@jiafanfranklu]

I play games mainly at 2P with my wife and we are definitely TEAM AGRICOLA. Love how tight the game is, where every single decision is not only impactful, but also cascades down to future actions. There is a certain amount of meanness to it that I really enjoy too. If we wanted to play a Uwe tile laying game, we'd go with Patchwork or New York Zoo instead!

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Yup, that cascade effect is definitely more present in Agricola than A Feast for Odin. As for polyomino tile-laying, if you like Patchwork and New York Zoo I'd recommend Spring Meadow! Of all his lighter polyomino games, Patchwork and Spring Meadow are the two I enjoy most. - Carlo

[@namelessfire]

Gotta go with Agricola. The tightness of the game coupled with the game changing cards is unmatched. Although there is certainly room for both on my shelf. Uwe is the man.

[@paulszki]

The tightness of Agricola is what makes it unpopular with my some of my more casual peeps (including my girlfriend) so Feast for Odin sees table time, while Agricola just kinda collects dust because people are afraid of having a bad time. Agricola, despite the inviting theme is very deceiving. People often think "oh I can manage my own farm and grow animals and stuff!" -> No, as a beginner you're constantly on the verge of starving and by the end of the game MAYBE you'll have something that resembles a farm but just when you start feeling good about yourself, the game ends. So to me Agricola is much more of a "Gamer's Game" (especially with the card drafting, which is really the way to play but everyone NEEDS to know how to play the game well) while Feast of Odin, despite the complexity, you can absolutely this game inflict even on new players. And even if comparatively they might be doing horribly, that will mostly be reflected by a lower score at the end but even the last player will have filled up most of their homeboard and an island and generally have accomplished some stuff and feel okay about themselves. Meanwhile in Agricola, a first time player who did badly might be lucky to not be in the negative scores.

[@johnhealey6455]

A Feast for Odin can’t be beat. Best game ever, particularly for solo.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

You love to hear it.

[@ThinkerThemer]

Silver AND beans!!! 😂 What a wonderful comparison & super fun video... thank you so much for having us take part. "you might not enjoy Agricola more after 10 or even 20 games" 😏 team feast forever !!!!!! 💕

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Thank you so much for taking the time to put together such a great little video clip! Even though I'm a LITTLE sad you chose Team Feast, I can absolutely respect it, and I'll hold out hope that maybe one day Agricola will overtake A Feast For Odin for you once you get above 20 plays, hehe... and if not, your #1 game of all-time is still amazing. Hope to play either game with you both some day! - Carlo

[@unlimitedrabbit]

Silver and beans, silver and beans, I'm a little lad who loves silver and beeeeeeeeans. 🎵

[@christaggart5687]

I feel like Caverna would have made more sense to go up against Feast due to them both being more sandboxy

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Definitely, but there are 2 reasons we went with this comparison: 1. Agricola is my #1 game of all-time, and A Feast for Odin is Dylann's #1 2. When we filmed this, neither of us had played Caverna yet. I've tried it a few times on Board Game Arena since, but we have yet to play the physical version together. We love Uwe Rosenberg though, so we'll continue playing his games and making videos about them. There's a good chance you'll see an Agricola vs Caverna video in the future and maybe a Caverna vs A Feast for Odin one as well. Thanks for watching! (Also, I love the Hobbes profile pic - classy!) - Carlo

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

I blindly purchased Agricola and mega-pimped it up before playing it. I spent over $300 between the game, expansions, and deluxe add-ons. I was super excited to finally play the game... *Boy, was I disappointed.* I will never understand why this game is so highly rated. Agricola is OK at best. My group _wanted_ to like the game, we really did. After adding some of the optional rules plus one house rule, the game became bearable. But there are _way_ too many *good* games out there to waste our time with Agricola.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Sorry to hear you had such a negative experience with it. Do you think any of that had to do with your expectations being so high after investing that much money before playing it? I realize it's not a game for everyone. I know plenty of people who either don't like it at all or are just indifferent towards it, so no hard feelings about that. For me, even after not playing it for years and going back to it, I was reminded how much I still love it. - Carlo

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

@@AllYouCanBoard - I understand the nostalgia. We keep going back to games like Life and enjoy it. But, nostalgia doesn't make Life a good game.

[@geoffpaulsen]

Great job pulling in videos from other you-tubers!

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

There is no "heavy competition" for spaces in Agricola because you can't go after only one resource (unless you plan on losing). For example, a player blocked your sheep? Go for the pigs, and wait until the next round when the other player goes for the pigs, and you take the sheep.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

I'm sure you understood the rules correctly, but it doesn't sound like you understood the strategy of the game. It would never really make sense to take 1 single sheep or boar in the round immediately after someone else took a pile of them. If someone goes to one of those spaces, then next round there's only one of that resource there, and if you're taking just 1 sheep or 1 boar with an action, that alone will probably set you far behind. I've never seen anyone do that and win. And your point about there being no heavy competition doesn't make any sense. It has nothing to do with going for one single resource, I think you misunderstood what I said in the video. Everyone needs REED to build rooms and renovate their house. Building rooms allows you to get more family members. So if you're not going for reed and you let your opponent keep getting it, you're pretty much guaranteed to lose unless you have an Occupation or Minor Improvement that helps you get reed in some other way. Similarly, if you're not racing for the first Family Growth spot to get more workers, you're probably not going to be in a competitive enough spot to have a chance of winning. - Carlo

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

@@AllYouCanBoard - Thank you for proving my point, that if you don't get the cards, you lose.

[@Jason.Detrick]

#Teamfeast I haven't played either but I do own Caverna and really enjoy it and I've been told there is no sense getting agricola if I already have Caverna. That is why since I've played neither specifically and would still like a chance to win I'm going team feast because it's one that looks like it's a game I'd really love and I'd like to own it to find out.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Thanks for weighing in here, Jason! But the draw for this happened long ago, within a week of the video being posted.

[@Jason.Detrick]

Lol yes I realized that after I had posted it🤦‍♂️ thank you for the reply though 😏 lol I did the same thing posting a picture of my boardgame collection.

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

I'm not on Team Agricola, but my pimped-up Agricola looks fantastic on the table.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

That's gotta count for something!

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

@@AllYouCanBoard - It actually does.

[@mdijkshoorn6421]

I like both, Agricola has like you pointed out more competition between players. You can block and have to block other players. Odin I feel you more play your own game and not against each other. Agricola is a bit lighter allowing you to also socialize a bit more during the game, While Odin has so many options you are deep in your game that you are not chatting as much with your friends. Now, Caverna will bring team Odin and team Agrigola together. It is a great alternative that combines elements from both.

[@zors5188]

I just bought AFFO... in French... the new edition by Super Meeple (nothing changed)... that was 130 before tax...

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

You need to either have a college degree or conjure the spirit world to understand most of Agricola's cards.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

I've been playing Agricola for like 10 years, I've played tons of the expansion decks and I've never had trouble understanding a single card. If you have questions about any particular cards, let me know and I'd be happy to clarify them. - Carlo

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

@@AllYouCanBoard - Yeah, we've had to spend hours searching for card explanations. Thanks for the offer.

[@hiandrew922]

Great 10k special! Enjoyed hearing both of your thoughts and you're quickly becoming my favorite board game channel. Also Team Feast.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

That's some high praise, thank you very much!

[@shortydancer]

TEAM FEAST but only because I haven’t played Agricola. Lol. I hope I win so I can play the monster that is Agricola. Holy crap 17:59 is hilarious

[@angelafortunato3866]

Oh no it's 03/07 today and I'm just watching the video now. I don't know if I'm too late lol. I'm siding with Team: Feast for Odin. I'm partial to Norse mythology :D

[@LutinesqueLutin]

I think I'll go for Agricola for the cards impact on your game, the price and the competition on the placements. Then, I'll go for Feast, when I'll have enought to buy it.

[@kieranberry]

TEAM FEAST....based entirely on the fact that I played agricola and didn't enjoy it, but would love to try Feast for Odin

[@corihulet739]

You two continue to make me smile. I have no personal experience with either game, but I happened to recently watch Amy and Maggie's video on AFFO and it was very compelling! Some of your arguments here, including your own concessions Carlo, have tipped me to team Feast

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Amy and Maggie are wonderful, and A Feast for Odin is a great game! I'd be curious to hear what you think once you've played them both if you get around to it. Let us know in the Discord if you do!

[@corihulet739]

@@AllYouCanBoard I will. I'm Lyrai there, if you couldn't tell

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

I've noticed that most, if not all, of Agricola defenders, are all because of nostalgic reasons.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

I've noticed that most, if not all, people who spend $300 on a game before they ever play it will usually have some regrets about that decision. Why go online and leave a bunch of comments trying to ruin other people's enjoyment of the game? Go play games you enjoy, nobody's forcing you to play Agricola. - Carlo

[@EfrainRiveraJunior]

@@AllYouCanBoard - So, you make a video talking about the pros and cons of Agricola, but you can't handle negative comments about the game? Very mature.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

@@EfrainRiveraJunior Come on, that's not fair to say. You've made almost 10 separate comments trashing the game in different ways without providing valid reasons for most of your comments. "Agricola's scoring SUCKS" doesn't contribute to the discussion of these games in a meaningful way. There are hundreds of comments on this video, take a look through them and see how many other people have left comments like that. And see if I've reacted the same way to any other comments about people who didn't like Agricola but went about it in a respectful way. Way more people have said they like A Feast for Odin more than Agricola and that's totally cool with me, I know a lot of people don't like it, but the way you've gone about filling this comment section with negative comments comes across as a bit disrespectful, even if you didn't mean it that way.

[@ilovecokeslurpees]

I think Agricola should be up against Caverna rather than Feast. Those two seem more analogous. I haven't played Agricola in 10 years and I want to play it now that I've matured in the hobby more. I played AFFO recently and I wasn't a fan. I felt it was too much and most of it was unnecessary. I love Uwe's older designs like Le Havre, Glass Road, and Ora & Labora as those are all in my top 50 games. Caverna used to be in my top 10 about 8 or 9 years ago but it has fallen for me over the years (I like but I don't love it like I used to). I suspect that I may like Agricola more now because I enjoy more ruthless games like 18XX games, TI4, heavy euros, and heavy economic games. I'm team Le Havre I guess.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

We are definitely going to get together to play some Caverna this year! And who knows maybe it will become AFFO vs Agricola vs Caverna after that ;). - Braiden

[@MattyChaps]

#FEAST with much love for #AGRICOLA but #FEAST for life :) love you guys and thanks for this video :)

[@darth-ludic-rous]

Angrycola vs Fist for Odin Smackdown! #teamallcreaturesbig&small

[@gmartinez5433]

Agricola I'd my game only because that's my first competitive worker placement game. I'm slowly being persuaded to team a feast for Odin

[@ITOmarHernandez]

Team Feast! ... Because I've never played Agricola.. So obviously I need to win that one :-D

[@Deagletime]

TEAM AGRICOLA -- only because I own it but I haven't played either yet

[@spiffy8000]

Team Agricola! I haven’t played either yet but I recently got Agricola and looking forward to playing it!

[@brookruck]

I haven’t played either one but I think I’m TEAM FEAST…I’d love to win it so I could play it! 😅

[@Esto_es_un_Poema]

TEAM FEAST The thing is... I don't own any of this game, nor have I played them. However, the name I hear once and again since I stumble into the hobby three years ago is A Feast for Odin. So many people have talked about how interesting and fun it is to play it that I just keep thinking about giving it a go. I thing however in this debate the thing that made me take this side is the idea of showing it to people. Because I like to play a lot with different persons, often times my favorite part is watching the spark in their eyes the moment they get a game and are 200% into it. I believe Feast might be one of those games.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

For sure, a lot of people fall in love with A Feast for Odin when they first play it, and I did too. I just don't think it gets better with each play in the same way Agricola does, but it's still a really good game.

[@JackieLatimer]

Team Agricola for me! I’m still fairly new to the game, probably played 8 times, but really enjoying it, and honestly when I’ve looked at Feast for Odin it just seemed too complicated.

[@Mimi-ca]

I haven’t played either game but to me Agricola seems more like something I would love to play!

[@stivomali3022]

I'm team Feast, but that is primarily because Tommy V on Dice Tower turned me on to Caverna before I ever tried Agricola.

[@sebastianravinale2592]

TEAM FEAST! (Though I would receive Agricola that I don't onw!) :P

[@meganlangston9938]

Gahh too hard of a choice! But I choose........ TEAM FEAST FOR ODIN

[@smitapujara5268]

I’ve played Agricola but I’m not familiar with Feast. So I will actually root for team Feast.

[@mariobutler2385]

TEAM AGRICOLA!! mainly because I have yet to try A Feast for Odin.

[@luketheduke1982]

Definitely Team Agricola (only because I don't own Feast...yet!)

[@g8kpr3000]

#TeamFEAST - Feast For Odin here. I played Agricola once and really didn't care for it. So I have to default to Feast. Lenge leve Odin

[@craigdipretore2404]

It is strange how I have not played either of these. Such a shame. Just a guess TEAM FEAST!

[@austinball6736]

Agricola is the game for me but that's because I haven't played Feast for Odin. Odin is on my list to get!

[@simonb4689]

#team feast

[@Golden_Mustang]

Team Agricola. Maybe it'll be Feast for Odin one day, but I'm not quite there yet.

[@draheim90]

“Go eat some silver” should be the new saying for “kick rocks”. Dying.

[@chinwhat]

TeammaFfO. They're both great games, they both want me to play again, but aFfO is way less stressful

[@OgamiTringle]

Team Agricola. Love the sheer amount of variety from the cards. "fast" setup when compared to Feast for odin. Prefer feast for odin at 2, Will play agricola at much wider player count.

[@petervanderham4725]

That’s a hard one. TEAM FEAST for me. But. Agricola is also on the list…

[@ScornfulToast]

I'm yet to play Feast for Odin, so I've gotta go TEAM AGRICOLA

[@kylaulbricht]

Congrats on 10K subs! 🎉 This was an epic video! Sadly I’ve not played either game so it’s hard for me to choose a side just yet. I think Feast seems more appealing to me. Maybe I’ll just be team #Bohnanza for now (my gateway game and favourite Uwe game) lol 😂 I look forward to trying both Agricola and AFFO someday so I can truly choose a side.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Bohnanza is amazing!! It's always overlooked when people talk about Uwe games so I'm pumped to see you mention it. This might actually be the first comment for Team Bohnanza which is a real shame. - Carlo

[@timothygrubb85]

My wife and I both really enjoy playing Agricola. Neither of us have ever played A Feast for Odin but I am interested in playing it. I like the tension and suspense in Agricola.

[@dackjaniel]

TEAM AGRICOLA! Thank you for doing this.

[@stephjones5167]

Team Feast !!! Snacks and Vikings how could you go wrong !

[@David-jv3ws]

Team FEAST!! I love the Viking theme, and even though I've never played it I have been wanting to for years. I've watched and read many reviews and I know this game is for me. Hopefully I will take the plunge and buy it this year

[@ClaeFace]

Team Feast For Odin no doubt. Fingers crossed I can get my own copy:)

[@jacquelinesean7476]

TEAM AGRICOLA! .....and the reason? I just love how punishing this game is. You have to build your engine while thinking about how you can feed your family at the end of the harvest season and have at least one of everything. And like what Carlos' said, you have to think if you should take the resources now before it's gets better for your opponent next round. I'm also curious to know for Carlos - agricola or caverna? Sorry Dylann! But congrats on 10K subs!

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Glad to hear you appreciate those crucial timing elements in Agricola too! I haven't played Caverna yet so I can't compare the two yet, but hopefully one day soon! - Carlo

[@IndianaGeologist]

TEAM AGRICOLA , only because of how much easier it is to teach, it's difficulty with how simple it is, and ease to get to the table.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

This is making me think I should make more of a push to play it more often. I always hesitate and think people might have a bad first experience with it. - Carlo

[@DougMogica]

As shown in my KZbin photo, Team Agricola.

[@theromanwanderer8923]

Team Agricola! I love how every action you take in the game is basically crucial to the final result. The theme is perfectly combined with the tension of making your farmers eat during the ending of the plague. The game is incredibly variable due to the cards you will draft at the start of the game, therefore the long-term strategy will always be different in every game. I never played AFfO because I was always afraid of the big box...but I would love to try it! Love from Rome! 🇮🇹

[@AllYouCanBoard]

If you've played Agricola, you have nothing to be scared of in A Feast for Odin. It's a more complicated game, but it's not more complex, if you know what I mean. There are more things to learn, but it's easier to play and make decisions throughout the game. But I totally agree with your comments on Agricola, especially the importance of each action and also the cards. - Carlo

[@JokinJoe]

Dude I just played Feast a few days ago and it became my favorite game ever. It was my first heavy game or score above 3 in complexity on BGG. It was my first big Uwe game. I loved the possibilities and choices and im itching to go back and refine my strategy and explore. People don’t like dice but I even found the hunting thrilling lol

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Woooo! You love to hear it.

[@ilovecokeslurpees]

You need to play more "heavy" games.

[@ryanganaban8150]

I haven’t played either yet but Dylann has convinced me, Team Feast!!!

[@Babyotter96]

I’ve never played an Uwe game but I’m going team Agricola

[@qim0nmgn]

Although Carlo's arguments are way better, as usual. I'm Team Feast on this one, love Dyllan's enthusiasm. Hope you will do more of these vids, nice twist.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Hey Kim, glad to hear you enjoyed the video but I'm not sure it's fair to say my arguments are way better. Dylann made some great points about A Feast for Odin here, and I think we have some pretty balanced discussions overall in our videos. I realize you probably meant it more as a compliment to me than an insult to Dylann, so it's all good, clearly no ill will, I just wouldn't want anyone who sees this to get the wrong impression if they haven't watched many of our other videos. Either way, thanks for watching and leaving a comment! We'll definitely do more videos comparing games going forward. - Carlo

[@monicahadley8264]

I’m TEAM AGRICOLA! Well at the moment it the only one I’ve played…lol. But I’ve enjoyed it so much I really want to play A Feast for Odin! I’m with Carlo about the theme-when I’m narrating aloud I’ll say things like “I really want to expand my family, but I just don’t know if my harvest is going to be sufficient with another mouth to feed.” I have no real life interest in being a farmer but when I’m playing this game, I’m all about that #farmlife!

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Totally! You know it's a good game when you're suddenly getting into something that would normally seem dry to you. Way to embrace the game, Monica!

[@LeRoi81]

Steep learning curve means you can learn much in a short period of time.

[@f33b58]

I still think of **Agricola** as the quintessential Uwe game, but **A Feast For Odin** is my favorite. Now... Let's talk about Caverna... #teamfeast

[@AllYouCanBoard]

We really need to play Caverna!

[@MaskedManiacReviews]

I love them both. Both my favorite board games, but A feast for Odin is THE KING!!!!

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Split decision over here obviously but we appreciate the passion either way! We recently got to try the Norwegians expansion and we agreed it really improves on the base game. I mean, it's still no Agricola but it's one small step closer. 😁 - Carlo

[@garyesposito4025]

TEAM FEAST because I don't have a group that will play Agricola enough to truly appreciate it. But Agricola is nice because it frequently pops up used locally for $25 and its box is smaller. I've played neither FYI

[@AllYouCanBoard]

It's probably good of you to realize you don't have the group for Agricola instead of trying to force it, I admire that. If you're into online gaming at all, you can play Agricola on BoardGameArena for free! You need a Premium account to create games, but you can join other games for free. Sure it's not quite the same as the physical version, but as someone who has played Agricola 100+ times in person, I'm still really enjoying playing it online and would highly recommend it. - Carlo

[@boredboardgamerkramer3838]

# Team Le Havre what WHAAAT?

[@AllYouCanBoard]

We really need to play it!

[@Swarpecha]

Team Agiricola!!! Probably because my love for farming sims... and dislike of a multitude of options. Love you guys, keep doing what you're doing! :)

[@scottdaniel5269]

Team Feast but they are both solid games. Congratulations on 10k subs, keep up the good work.

[@TurtleDude05]

While I like both games. I think Agricola is the standout for me, for a few reasons. 1.) Price. Boardgaming is an expensive hobbie as it is. So getting a great experience at a cheaper price is always a plus. 2.) Agricola has a crunch to it, that Feast simply doesn't have. It's not just the tighter play. But rather, it feels like a complex puzzle. Where each round I'm evaluating the state of the game and trying to make an optimal play. And due to Agricola's punishing nature, it's highly rewarding when you get it right. 3.) It's not a Feast for Odin. 🙃 And while there are a great number of other reasons one could give. These are the main things that come to my mind. Both games are great. Agricola is greater. 😁 #TeamAgricola

[@AllYouCanBoard]

I love everything about this comment, Turtle. #TeamAgricola indeed. Gotta have that crunchy goodness. - Carlo

[@ErnieB573]

TEAM FEAST here, looks like a much better game and who wants to play a game that can be ruined with one bad play early on

[@AllYouCanBoard]

I respect the love for Team Feast but Agricola was #1 on the BGG rankings for years for a reason - over 10,000 people have rated it a 10. Almost 50,000 people have rated it 8 or higher! I completely understand why some people don't like it, and there's nothing wrong with that, but the appeal of the game is undeniable. - Carlo

[@btipmt]

TEAM AGRICOLA it was my first "modern boardgame" and I dont own Feast, and I am werry excited to try that out. I enjoy your channel and you guys aproch and attitude werry much, keep up the good work :-)

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Thanks for the kind words, Peter!

[@helxis]

In my opinion, AFfO is representative of the "modern day euro", with its focus on letting all players always do what they want, with little conflict or worry. A crowd pleaser for the masses that have joined the hobby in the last 5 years or so. But to me, that barely even qualifies as a game. More like a shared experience. Does winning or losing even matter if there was no competition? Agricola is on the opposite end of that spectrum. It represents what it truly means to be a good game. Players groan at moves you make. They have to rework their failed strategies. Wins feel earned and fought for. I'm happy that Uwe produced Nusfjord to bring back this tradition of design. It packs a lot of the same punch into a shorter, easier game. Of course, anyone that complains about (or enjoys!) how punishing Agricola is should have to play the game that inspired it: Antiquity, by Splotter. Not only is that game a marvel, but it is also one in which every player at the table can lose. And no, it isn't cooperative.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

I've heard of Antiquity but had no idea it inspired Agricola, that's interesting. And yes, I agree about Nusfjord, fantastic game. - Carlo

[@benjaminbaker4168]

Ok, as a long time uwe fan I have so much to say about this debate. But, I will say that Agricola’s player board feels like a little farm. It progresses with fields, pastures, and baby animals. Feast’s theme is soooo much more abstracted. I would argue it doesn’t at all feel Viking themed. None of my actions feel vikingy. But, it’s still a great game. I just think Agricola wins by a mile in theme. I love looking at my full fledged farm at the end of every game. I love the satisfaction of puzzling out the abstracted boards of feast. Theme - point for Agricola!

[@AllYouCanBoard]

I agree - the viking theme might be more appealing on the surface, but Agricola's theme comes through more in the actual gameplay. - Carlo

[@tigerpjm]

Feast for Odin. Hopefully I'm in by 7pm March the February 7th November this year 7 months away last year.😂 Subbed. Great video!

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Hahaha, thanks! Looks like you missed out by a couple days. ;)

[@Bennettbrawler]

So honestly, have only played Agricola and have played it twice but wasn’t a big fan so I’m going to say that I’m TEAM FEAST even though I haven’t played it. Sorry Carlo!

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Haha, don't be sorry! Nobody is required/expected to like anything. You not liking it won't ruin my enjoyment of the game so it's all good. Besides, Feast is still a great game too. Thanks for watching!

[@Pdhooge]

Team Feast, but I enjoy both for different reasons. As Carlo said, Agricola feels more about mastering the game, having a predictably randomized gameplay loop. A Feast for Odin is more about exploring a shifting puzzle from different angles. The cards in Agricola ask you to see a path from the start of the game, in Feast they simply offer you a place to start. A Feast for Odin wins for me because it gives me - the person knowing and explaining the game - a chance to have a fun game exploring a weird angle, while new players enjoy themselves and have an actual chance to win. In Agricola, somebody who knows the game will either crush new players or has to play inefficient, and both aren't fun. It's a great game, but it requires players of similar skill.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

I agree 100% with your comment, except for the fact that I'm on Team Agricola obviously. But you're absolutely right - if I was showing either game to a group of new players, I'd probably have more fun toying around with the system in Feast as well compared to possibly destroying new players in Agricola. Thanks for the super thoughtful comment. - Carlo

[@Razykan]

Teaamm c'est for Odin !!!! Good vidéo guyss 😁

[@IndianaGeologist]

As a side note, Carlo doesn't have the passion that Dylan does... lmao I'm on Team Agricola and we're getting thrashed

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Haha, oh come on! A Feast for Odin is ranked higher on BGG, I was fighting an uphill battle from the start!

[@tannershort]

#TeamFeast I'm not quite sure why, I've never played either and don't often play games this heavy. For some reason I have 0 interest in agricola. And for some reason Feast for Odin has always been the only big box game that actually appeals to me. Idk what it is, maybe the theme, maybe cuz I really like polyominos. I just don't know if I have friends who could handle either game, I'd have to play solo a lot for sure.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

And there's nothing wrong with not being interested in certain games. There are tons of games that don't interest me that are high up on the BGG rankings or I hear people raving about. Everyone's different and that's one of the things that makes this hobby so fun and engaging. Since you might not have much luck getting these 2 games played in person, just figured I'd recommend checking them out on BoardGameArena. - Carlo

[@joanabelo5878]

Team Feast, I guess... since I picked it as my first Uwe big box game, but haven't tried Agricola. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on Caverna as well when you both get around to play it ;)

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Definitely! I just got Le Havre so that one's next for us, but I think Dylann has been considering getting Caverna for a while. Either way, we absolutely hope to play it this year and we'll talk about it on the channel once we do.

[@EHngelic]

And the winner... Caverna!

[@AllYouCanBoard]

We really need to try it!

[@boscoszeto9362]

TEAM FEAST ~~~~~ Agricola is a good game, but it can be replaced by Caverna.... nothing can replace A Feast for Odin

[@AllYouCanBoard]

We really need to try Caverna!

[@malvinafis6907]

I recently played AFFO for the first time on BGA. And Real enjoyed. So out of the 2 I chose #TeamFeast. More honestly I think for now it's #TeamCaverna as my fav Uwe game

[@AllYouCanBoard]

I'm seeing more of these comments saying Team Caverna, we really need to try it out!

[@MrRowy20]

Team Feast! Love the video guys - congrats on the 10k! Keep up the fantastic work. I'm off to pillage, breed sheep and eat silver pieces for dinner!

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Thanks for the kind words and enjoy your delicious silver!

[@MartinMartin-xo5ko]

🤣🤣🤣 “get your silver and go to the market” 😂😂😂

[@Polskimg]

Team Feast. I would love Rosenberg to get someone different to do his artwork.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Haha, well there were two different artists for these games! Agricola was Klemens Franz and A Feast for Odin was Dennis Lohausen, they're both legends in the board game industry. Did you dislike the art in both games?

[@AndGamesScience]

TEAM FEAST! Feast is in my top 10 games. I think agrícola is okay, but it is not as fun. I feel restricted and like I cannot do as much.

[@AllYouCanBoard]

Fair enough, Andres! That are certainly more requirements in Agricola, outside of the special circumstances allowed by your cards, but for the most part you need to expand your house, grow your family, create a food engine (usually either from animals or grain/vegetables), etc. I just love the puzzle of figuring out what other players are doing, which spaces I think will remain available, how and when to best use my cards, etc. But I really like A Feast for Odin too, and they're very different games. - Carlo