A Gibson Tuning HACK! (Most Don't Know!)

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[@Nissan570Lsx]

I wonder if your neighbor is making a video about roofing and talking about how his neighbor is always playing guitar.

[@RobertBakerGuitar]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mind blown

[@Nissan570Lsx]

@@RobertBakerGuitar and I forgot to add, I think you can ask siri how to string a guitar and she tells you how much string to pull back. Great stuff. Thanks.

[@jeffwickermusic134]

Lol! 😎👍

[@jeffreyhughes9162]

Am I a man dreaming I am a butterfly or a butterfly dreaming I am a man?

[@leslysisi6714]

Lol, my dad would do that, but I would be the one playing guitar.😂

[@lasancheofficial1933]

I just restrung my unwound strings this way after stringing them normally last night (didn’t change strings as they are still settling). This works. Thank you Robert. BIGTIME.

[@nickspann89]

For the past 15 years I’ve been putting graphite (pencil lead) in the nut slots before changing the strings. I do this with acoustics too and I NEVER HAVE TUNING ISSUES. Nut sauce is another option but it is expensive and it doesnt perform as good as graphite in my opinion. Tuning your G string up would also help like the video suggests. I’m just trying to help people.

[@AndreAmeli]

vaseline help to, but it rusty the string a little bit

[@stricknine8623]

Also replacing the nut with a pre-slotted Graphtech Tusq nut will fix ALL problems with string binding. These have Teflon impregnated in the material used to make the nut. I have these on all of my guitars. Not just the Epiphone and Gibsons.

[@jcm78]

Yup. Chap stick and graphite from a pencil. Mix it up and apply it to nut slots, saddles and under string trees. Works great and super cheap!

[@stricknine8623]

@@jcm78 Replacing the component that you are lubricating (fix the problem) works pretty well. Graphtech nuts are impregnated with Teflon. It is 5 times more slippery than graphite and will be self lubricated for life.

[@jcm78]

@@stricknine8623 also depends on if it’s a vintage instrument or not. I have used graphtec nuts, saddles and string trees with excellent results. But if it’s vintage or you are in a pinch a cheap alternative is pencil lead and chap stick.

[@ginga7503]

You are the definition of rockstar in my opinion. You have all these killer licks and tricks and you jump on every opportunity to share them with us. Thank you so much as always

[@ryanzeigler9763]

i've been telling everybody this for years and i'm always ignored. learned from Steve Miller's tech in 93-94

[@wineandblues7272]

well now you don't

[@TeddyBullard]

​@@wineandblues7272that reply made zero sense.

[@josipstapic5424]

I was just wondering why my les paul is going out of tune constantly, and i get a notification for this video, THANK YOU!

[@returnoftheshredi]

I have had a LP for 12 years and done every single thing besides this to try and keep it in tune and about 5 years ago I just put it in the closet in the case and stopped playing it. 😂 When I watched this video I decided to put the winding up to the test. Holy shit! I just played for a half an hour and it stays in tune like a Tele!! I’m dumbfounded. Thanks!!🎉🎉

[@mr.h5788]

I sent mine to Gibson and when I got it back it played like a different guitar. They redid the set up and said the action was too high causing intonation and tuning stability issues. The action is really low now as LP's are suppose to be... It's rock solid now and sounds so much better and plays like butter. I love it again when before I was about to sell it. They included a spec sheet with their recommendation set up and string gauge etc.

[@gagecee5129]

Also try a Graphtech tusk nut. It's unstoppable with this tuning.

[@aditya__dabholkar]

That tone in the beginning, P-90's are so underrated.

[@texwiller7753]

They are not underrated.

[@aditya__dabholkar]

Agreed, but majority of people are more into the single coils vs Humbuckers. I think only people who have played for a long time, own multiple guitars get their hands on a P-90!

[@texwiller7753]

@@aditya__dabholkar p90's are single coils.

[@aditya__dabholkar]

@@texwiller7753 Ofcourse, but for me personally I think it's a perfect balance between the single coil and the Humbucker. Has a tad more power than a single coil but still retains that sweet bright sound!

[@freelancer8822]

One of the best tips ever! Have a Lester and a 335 and neither would stay in tune. Tried the strings 'up' on the pegs and noticed not only better general stability but also not having to fiddle with pegs after bends. Nice!

[@stevenlevine2106]

Phenomenal! Thank you so much. I’ve been dealing with Gibson tuning issues for 45 years. Tried changing the nut but I never thought to wind up to decrease the break angle. Thank you.

[@george25199]

Worked for me to.Used to playing on floyd rose type guitars. Would like to play my sg more but the G would not stay in tune

[@RaindoggTV]

Dude!!! You solved it!!!! Just bought a brand new 50’s standard, tried everything and then came across your video. It’s been in turn ever since. Rocking Good News! ❤ 3 days and counting.

[@nahnotsomuch2292]

For the first time in 5 years of owning it, I finally don't hate my Les Paul Studio. I literally haven't put it down since trying this trick this morning. Thank you!

[@singlestarman]

Thanks Rob - had free time this morning - pulled the custom out and rocked it a couple hours before heading out!

[@chrish6852]

i immediately went and changed my strings and even though theyre not fully settled they are already handling bends so much better :o thank you

[@jettastrachan660]

Dude, I literally just got my first Les Paul yesterday and I was like why won’t this stay in tune! This helped so much. Thanks! Love the channel

[@edn4x4]

7:58 I hear a distinct tink indicating binding at the nut. Time to look into that as the cause of your tuning issue on that beauty.

[@vinniesmyyth334]

Probably because with the string wound down the break angle is greater, more tension on the nut probably increacing the binding issues

[@vox1966]

Thanks I love Gibson guitars but they don’t stay in tune 5 grand for a les Paul custom should stay in tune I will try thanks

[@andrewcollins4458]

If it,s just been restrung or the strings loosened for laying up in the case then the string could just be settling, that might just be me because i always wind my first turn over the string and then go under which solves any tuning problems other than a bad nut but can lead to string breakage.

[@mattw.6726]

Another thing to check out is the angle of the groove on the nut. If it's straight parallel to the neck, it doesn't stay in tune as well. In contrast, having the slot cut at an angle towards the tuner can help. I replaced the brass zero fret on my 2015 LP Studio with a TUSQ zero fret with angled grooves from Graph Tech and my tuning stability massively improved.

[@alabamahebrew]

All you have to do to permanently fix that issue is to take a small file and run in through the G string nut slot and put a slight angle on the outgoing side towards that tuner peg and you won't have the issue again.

[@ericdelisle1793]

Thank you for sharing this tuning information!! I have been battling this les paul for years and now it actually stays in tune after bends 👍 I can't believe it actually worked 😁

[@brianwhite7686]

Another good tip is to keep the screw that goes through the tuner nice and snug. It should be a little "firm" when you twist it to tune your strings, not loose. Love your channel Robert!

[@madguitargoss2870]

Thank you Sir Robert, 36 years of playing and working on guitars, this flipped a lightswitch for me, its like giving someone a spatula to flip a pancake when all they have had previously was a chopstick, its the little things... Subscribed and thanks again for this essential info!!!

[@raymondwheatley2796]

Hi Robert. I have a 2013 Gibson Les Paul studio hardly played would not stay in tune , I put into shop for set up still the same . This string hack has worked so instead of hanging on the wall for years I can now play her. Great thanks from the UK

[@TheFairway8]

Most guitarists spend 50% of their lives tuning up and the other 50% playing out of tune

[@mhoff7722]

🤣🤣🤣

[@drew_peabawls13]

Most > 50%

[@BluesInSeattle]

Dang I've been winding up my entire life and I just assumed everyone did that. And amazingly my guitars always stayed in tune. And, when I'm tuning any given string, I tune UP to the note. If you go past the note, bring it back below and pick the note as you raise the pitch until it's dialed in.

[@arthurblackhistoric]

And that exact issue is the whole problem with robot tuners. They tune down to pitch if the string is too sharp. We MUST allow for the contractile property of the string by lowering the pitch below correct tuning and then bring it back up.

[@snap-off5383]

and tune the LOUD part of the note, not the faded off parts, because strings go flat as they lose energy. That insight made my tuning sound so much better, tune the beginning of the note, play it as hard as you would at your max forte parts, and hit it over and over, tuning that part of the note each time. Crystalline perfect tuning.

[@seandavies5366]

Just tried this with my Midtown. It worked!! G and B string now staying in tune for longer than a song 👌 Cheers

[@tharsgaard663]

REducing the break angle reduces the tension on the bite points letting the tuner do its job easier, another great tip for 3x3 headstocks is making sure the nut slots are angled from the fretboard towards the tuner and NOT straight on the nut as that just creates another binding point

[@stephenchow5161]

shawn tubbs is the king of falling down a flight of stairs and somehow always landing in his feet and walking away non chalantly

[@jayseb]

Having Les Paul's for the past 30 years, it was said to me by a master jazz player, to never wind your strings too much on these - just have 1 to 2 turns. He Said "People wind their strings way too much"... So never had issues with these.

[@rogerpokorny4654]

Thank you so much, I have a Pacifica electric that will not stay in tune for nothing and I tried this method and it works perfectly.

[@rickycompton2610]

Great video Robert very helpful but most tuning issues on Les Pauls is usually a bad cut nut but I have used the up wrap method and it worked .

[@cosmictravo]

I have a '90 LP Standard and a '17 SG and put Grover tuners on there and worked like a charm. I will remember the wind up trick if issues ever appear again thanks Robert!

[@Lonewolf23-26]

I tried this and 100% fixed my problem you genius! Love it!

[@jessehoward578]

I have always done this.....I was at an epiphone clinic that offered free string changes years and years ago and this is how the guy doing the changes did it and I just watched him do it and I guess subconsciously picked up on it

[@MatthewSmith-ke6xw]

Been having tthis problem for ages !!!!! Nice to rob (a man off the people) addressing it

[@DennisJPolson]

Never heard of doing this before, but I will absolutely try it. Thanks, Robert!!

[@leemaples1806]

g strings are made to come loose when you pull on them.

[@corneliuscrewe677]

Giggity.

[@Michael-Purcell]

Makes sense. The string at the top of the tuning post places more angle pressure on the post helping it to tilt and lock against the wall of the tuning mechanism. The G string is the most common to detune because it is bent more often during lead riffs.

[@chriscole1250]

Thanks to this video I'm back to Gibson. Just bought a Les Paul classic and this trick works wonders. Thanks Robert!

[@halovair]

Wow, I just tried this on my Gibson SG, and it instantly improved the tuning stability! Thanks Robert :D

[@ryanchamblee2758]

Lessening the break angle between the stop bar and bridge helps as well. Also helps the feel of the strings for a more slinky and easier feel on bends. But to little tension can reduce tuning stability so just have to find a balance.

[@umbertoyltp]

Thank you for the hack Robert! I improved intonation on my affordable 2004 Vintage VS6 double cut by replacing the bridge with a Gotoh one, for the range alone, but my guitar is now more under control.

[@vonzoomtunes9847]

Robert...ever since I originally watched this, I have been wanting a gold top with P90s. Love the way this sounds, and you are to blame. Thanks alot, man.

[@mikehickey9540]

Good tip Rob. Have you changed or adjusted the nut at all as well?

[@stevenw4549]

Thanks for the tip. I will try it. Would it hurt to do the wound strings that way?

[@christopheranderson2158]

Good pointer! Now....what if you have locking tuners? Try this......before restringing, take the D string (wound) and run it into the slot for the G string on the nut. Many nuts are cut too shallow or are just tight enough to cause the G to bind. Run it through a few times to just barely open the slot. Don’t use a file unless you know what you’re doing!! It’s very easy to cut too deep with a file and then you are going to need to replace the nut. Now.....because the binding issue is normally caused by the lateral break angle instead of a vertical one, you may need to pull that D string in the G slot while pulling it down at the same angle it tracks to the tuning peg. That will ease the opening edge of the nut where the G string meets the nut and then breaks at an angle to the post. Apply some nut lube.....restring.....and test it out. That has worked on my Gibsons and I rarely have tuning issues anymore.

[@markpell8979]

Ditto on all points, Christopher. I also have used the tricks for decades of using old wound strings as 'flexible rotary nut slot files' and lubing the slots with a little graphite. My Les Pauls and Specials stay in tune with absolutely no problems.

[@ofadetergentsud]

I use a roller bridge for my SG and it helps a lot because the stock saddles were causing my strings to get caught up and then release while playing.

[@rumbletruck1]

Dude, your delivery and personality, along with your skill and knowledge base make this my favorite music channel to watch. Thanks for the content! 😄🤘🏻

[@RobertBakerGuitar]

Thank you Jason!

[@Outdoorshuntingshooting]

I also have a P90 gold top, been using the pencil lead method for a while, which works for me, changing the break angle will change the tension which will actually help me as the slightly lower tension on that string will help bends.

[@allanvaldez3387]

You sir, are a lifesaver. Was considering selling my Epi 339 due to tuning issues. This fixed it!

[@stanstolarski8325]

Thanks for that Gibson tuning tip Robert . . . . . All the best & stay well !!!

[@guitarocd9984]

That make sense I've never thought of doing that. Doesn't change the angle but it changes the stress.

[@TheAhirishman]

Also, i just tried this on a 1990 Burny rlc-70 and it was amazing how something so simple made such a difference

[@chug6742]

Would've been interesting to compare how that guitar sounded without it being strung up and with it being strung up to see if it actually solved the issue.

[@anthonymichael3029]

Never experienced the dreaded Gibson tuning issues until I picked up a 2019 Les Paul Classic. G string would go a quarter step flat if I looked at it. Finally gave in a replaced the nut and it’s been solid ever since

[@garyj6006]

Thanks for that tip. I have a Gibson LP Trad, ES 335 Satin, and SG P90 Special. They mostly stay in tune when I keep my home at a steady temperature and use a dehumidifier for about 3 hrs a day in the guitar room.

[@brisleeadams]

Hi Robert! Great video! Definitely might try it. Ever tried the Martin winding technique? Basically locking the string with a simple knot trick.

[@odessa0054]

Have a 2015 Les Paul studio with the G-force tuner which I love. This guitar stays in tune forever. Rarely Do I have to tune it unless I change the tunings. Love your vids.

[@172turtla]

Thanks Robert, I will give this a try! I generally play Rickenbackers, same tuner set up, and have no tuning problems. I bought a Les Paul R6 that just will not stay in tune on the G string, I am wondering what is the deal with Les Pauls?

[@duanewelsh5611]

Thanks Robert I will try this. Getting ready to put strings on a bunch of my guitars.

[@mark-dietz]

Im glad I stuck around til the end for that awesome A chord!

[@kennyleejohnson5253]

I always make sure the strings fit the nut and glide properly and haven’t had a problem. That second guitar is a beast !! I love the sound of that one.

[@BobW5150]

This is an awesome tip that I haven't heard before. I'm definitely trying this! BTW, what amp are you using for this video? I love the tone you're getting.

[@ksjohnson8197]

Very interesting. I have a 2019 Gibby LP Classic that I installed locking tuners on. I've notice its tuning stability has gotten worse. Upon examination, I noticed the new tuners lowered the breaking angle a bit. Probably the problem. After watching this, I'm going to put the original tuners back on and wind up and see what happens. I'm also thinking about having the nut replaced with a bone nut properly cut. Thanks for doing this video.

[@highseasmarinediaz493]

I've been up winding for a while and it works. My less paul with a roller bridge and bone nut is always in tune unless it a massive temperature change and then I usually have to give each string a little bend and it's back in tune with a little stretch.

[@67Stu]

👏🏻P-90s are by far the most versatile pickups ever made, without question❣️ I use .012-.056 string sets on my SGs. I'm going to give your method a try.

[@MrFrykman]

Great advice, I'm going to go try this ASAP! Btw, the amp tone is fabulous... What is it?

[@ZRobertson91]

On one of my cheaper guitars had issues with staying in tune, so I started wrapping the first turn around the bottom, second around the top, basically locks it in place. I do it on all my guitars, and I have basically no tuning issues on my LP or my Strats

[@intheblues]

Cool tip man! I'll give this a shot :)

[@blackmirror5559]

. Always cool to see your encouragement for other guitar superheroes, Shane 😎👍 .

[@vegasdadstuff4296]

Thanks for this tip! I helped my Gretsch behave a little better as well.

[@florentintise]

That Gibson sounds “golden” 😎 Enjoyed watching your video. Have a great weekend.

[@ondrejtomas7367]

OMG the most valuable hack in the last 10 years! Thank you so much!!!!!!!

[@hemidoc]

I tried this on both of my Les Pauls Didn't have much problem with going out of tune before but this helped Kinda hard to get used to winding up rather than down. I even did my PRSs like this

[@flooptydoo1178]

I have a new Gold Top - I definitely made a mental note. Would you recommend that chair? If so, what is it?

[@monkeybooby3]

Omg that tone at the beginning is sick

[@ebandcamp]

I heard but haven’t tried it yet that cutting the nut slots on the angle to the tuners helps a lot also . A lot harder to do but I’m gonna try it your way first . Thanks !

[@Karlgolden]

I need this! My Gibson is annoying for tuning

[@RobertBakerGuitar]

My man :) Was jsut watchign your SLash Fender video.

[@sjc4585]

Mine use to be the same for ages Another good idea is replacing the nut with one that's, especially on the g and d string, with the grooves angled to ward the tuners slightly Helps with the break angle

[@stricknine8623]

@@sjc4585 Graphtech Tusq fixes it permanently. Teflon impregnated materials in their guitar nuts. They can be purchased pre-slotted too. You will never look back.

[@nealfrost2986]

Big bends nut sauce, sorted mine!

[@stricknine8623]

@@nealfrost2986 I have some still in a drawer that I haven't used in many years because I fixed the actual problem.

[@Ryanvatz]

How have I not seen this before! This. Is. Brilliant!

[@MusicMotivator]

I'm today years old learning this after 46 years of playing. Thanks Robert.

[@mikedwiles]

I wanted to thank you. I just got a wonderful little Epi Nighthawk. I noticed it has the G string issue: not pinching in the nut, but still a slight issue. Then, I remembered what I watched the night before on this video. Loosened the G string and rewrapped it going up. Problem solved!

[@JAFOpty]

so is it ok to wrap the wound string down? I also like to use pencil No. 2 on the nut like Trogly

[@jeffwickermusic134]

I’ve always had that tuning problem with my Les Pauls, but I’d never part with any of them. Thank you so much for the tip, I’ll string G, B, and E up from now on! 😎👍

[@craigthomson3621]

I have always wound the G string on Les Paul, ES and SG guitars above the tuning peg hole and this has helped tuning stability on that string. You can also replace the Nylon or Graphtec nut with a bone nut and get a good tech to file the slots at an angle to match the angle that the strings travel to the tuning peg.

[@LeoTestoni]

Great tip! Gonna try it right now

[@guitareveryone]

I will try this and hopefully I won’t get that sitar effect because of changing the strings break angle over the nut with the top wrap. Obviously you haven’t had any of these with your Gibson’s so we have nothing to lose to try it. Thanks for the tip!!

[@perrygoround]

I put a rolling bridge, locking tuners and a string butler on my Tribute LP, which had very poor tuning stability, and now is olid as a rock. Not sure if it was the rolling bridge, the locking tuners or the string butler, or the combination of the 3, but the improvement is insane. From losing tuning after a couple of bends to keep it for even weeks.

[@fedup3449]

Great tip. I've got locking Grovers on my LP - how can i wind up on those?

[@jojokeo]

I create and cut new bone nuts with the string slot pointing directly to the tuning pegs which solves this issue. It's not quite as easy as it sounds keeping the string spacing perfect but this is where experience and a good luthier (me) helps. Good tip though Robert! Lessening the string angle (just not too much) is always best no matter the guitar to prevent tuning issues.

[@mikephillips4001]

On my '74 LP Custom, same issue when I bought it in 85. Fixed the issue by winding up w 3 wraps on G, B,E ...AND putting Chapstick as a lube packed in the nut slots after stretching and in tune ( brass nut on mine). I've wailed on the strings - including extensive pulls above the nut all-night on stage without ill effects on tuning.

[@chrissarmas6008]

Very informative video.Also,iam stuck every once in a while thanks to your video about simple pentatonic, i often sing pentatonic in the way you did in the beggining of the vid.

[@bob_an]

Interesting tip, I will try the trick next time i'll change strings on my LP. Some say that the angle of LP's headstock is the secret to it's sustain. Did you notice any effect on that; I mean that wraping the string UP, cancels the low angle of the headstock, leading to less pressure on the nut, which in it's turn (if the original hypothesis is right) will lead to less sustain. Any thoughts on that; Thank you!

[@padouch22]

Wow, that`s a great tip, thanks! Hopefully I can finally take my SG Junior on stage without worrying about staying in tune. 😇

[@threeleggedman]

Something I found when tuning up: Let each tuner adjustment settle in. It can take a few seconds for the tension to even out on each side of the nut.

[@achannel1818]

I just changed my strings but I'll definitely take your advice 5 years from now when I get new strings.

[@darkvillin]

I never worry about tuning on my Gibson. It’s a 2015 and I kept the robo tuners. The guitar gets a lot of flack from snobs, but I love it.

[@TheArkFan91]

Gotta try this, thanks for a super easy tip!

[@jessiebeaugard6174]

Thanks for helping to solve a mystery, great info

[@loganlavenets9067]

I just bought my first Gibson les Paul yesterday! Perfect timing boss!

[@chesquid386]

THANK YOU! this has helped me more than you can ever know

[@STP-dh9gd]

Top wrapping the bridge helped on my Gibson LP. Will try this too.

[@ZRobertson91]

A broken switch is how I bought a $900 guitar for $500! The guy didn't want to mess with it, so he just wanted to get rid of it. I fixed it with a new switch myself, sold it for $750, 6 years later! Good return on investment

[@Dudeitsbrian]

Nice. I got 30% off from a dealer from a Gibson with 1 messy volume pot that turns off at 2 and comes back up at 0. I don’t use the lower end of my volume pots so it really isn’t anything for me. I could fix it for like $20 but I couldn’t be bothered yet.

[@arthurblackhistoric]

I bought an Aria Pro ES-335 style guitar for $100 from a pawn shop because it had a non-working selector switch. I convinced him that the whole guitar was knackered and needed a re-wire! I took it home and tightened the jack socket and the selector switch and it worked perfectly!