A global food crisis may be less than a decade away | Sara Menker

[@microbuilder]

Its hard for me to take this seriously when the US alone throws out nearly half the food we make, and we're still fat AF.

[@qwertyplm13does51]

microbuilder so what! Half of the food is given to by federal programs.

[@HammerheadGuitar]

That's because the US is very advanced in agriculture compared to a lot of other countries.

[@MrHigherplane]

its because our food comes from other countries

[@0ld_Scratch]

because of all the sugar

[@Gabe62046]

microbuilder so scared of protein deficiency, lazy so we buy food that takes years to go bad that we went a tad overboard

[@akastenas]

I have to notice that as a former commodities trader she is still very much fond of big business and big government. I tend to agree with most of the things she said, but the issue is giving all the power, all the land to just a few major players. All of this is a big advertisement for large commercial farms to certain extent. It can be interpreted that way, however I do believe that people should own as much land as possible in their respective countries. We cannot just give away our ability to feed ourselves to corporations. Small and mid size farms should coexist with larger businesses also. Ideally, the Government and a corporation could own equal shares of the company, but at the same time individual farmers need to be given a chance to retain control over their own land. All countries need to become self sufficient as much as possible. As much as possible food, resources, etc. If you own some arable land you better hold on to it - the tendency is that larger and larger chunks of land are being purchased and sold worldwide. Meaning that simple people can no longer purchase arable land. Apartments versus houses is also something to say. The tendency is that more and more people move to the cities and live in huge apartment blocks, while not even owning the land. The goal of every country, family, person is to become as much self sufficient (if such a need arises). The only regret I had is that I have not purchased arable land close to the city in Europe where I live. In 7 years the actual value of land in some countries increased 100 - 300 percent. Feeding the world is a good idea, but be sure to have an acre or two for yourself also. Worst case you will be able to rent it out in the future. Another thing worth mentioning is that population growth predictions may change over time. Have a piece of land for yourself also. In a new world, those who will be able to feed themselves and the others will be the free ones. The rest will be in a less fortunate situation.

[@dustinchen]

yup

[@ggvideonow1]

Food security is global. A Macro economy. A policy commitment. Policy comes from government. Whether that government is “Big” or “Small”. Food is global, this “big” government argument sensitivity is local to USA. How can to mix this two productively? Unfortunately, in today’s world, USA local politics, views has global implications.

[@njtom105]

Localism and Distributism now!

[@rowanaforrest9792]

It's now about 1.5 years after this TED talk, and things are happening that are not mentioned in this talk. The weather has been doing peculiar things all over the globe, resulting in heavy crop losses in various areas and some farms closing down as a result. Whether the climate is warming, or cooling -- only one thing is not debatable: Climate is altering, and it's hitting agriculture hard. It will take time for farming methods to adjust to these unusual weather conditions, and in the meantime there will be continued large crop losses. One of the most sustainable solutions that could be practiced immediately and sustained in most parts of the world is if people who are not "farmers" begin growing as much of their own food as they can (even turning a portion of one's back yard into a vegetable garden would help).

[@lilaclizard4504]

reducing the ridiculous amounts of waste in food production would help too!

[@kebertxela941]

And now non-weather issues added to that since your post(covid lockdowns and war), we better have a worldwide bumper crop this year or things could get famineeeee.

[@taylormatthews4848]

food crisis is real now

[@taylormatthews4848]

no we are about to enter the worst food crisis in decades most likely way worse than 2008 unless we get really lucky

[@TraderAssist]

Soon there will be a global event, an international conference organized by the people themselves, "Global Crisis. We are people. We want to Live," on the Creative Society channel. They will tell us the truth about what's really waiting for us if we don't all come together.

[@shrewtamed]

The main issue I have with this Talk is that the lady seems to assume that the only reason African farms have low productivity is because of lack of knowledge and supplying farmers with info/technology will change that. She does not mention the fact that keeping the farms at low productivity/low investment is a perfectly rational strategy, because no matter how much you invest in your farm you won't be able to compete with the heavily subsidised EU/US crops.

[@smalltownhomesteadAC]

Yes, it's alway's the fault of the west. Never some-one else's fault or responsibility. Good grief. You never learn.

[@OMGfarmnotes]

@@smalltownhomesteadAC where is the lie in the comment above? The west does subsidise their food production and then export to other regions. The other regions are not subsidised.

[@medicmike4906]

All of you have to look past this. Or at least have a few brain cells working for you to go out and prep some calories for future use.

[@marshish83]

Maybe if Africa didn't drive out or kill the farmers who were cultivating that land they would be in better shape. Zimbabwe set themselves back decades and South Africa is right on track to make the same mistakes!

[@linnetmbotto7212]

EU/AU dont sell food to Africa, Africa can sell food to Africa... There are so many places in Africa with food shortage

[@Toni0z]

Sometimes you can set the speed to 1.25 It's one of those times

[@grahamt5924]

good advice. I found 1.5 acceptable.

[@Leotique]

I watch all my videos 1.5 or 1.75 x speed except songs

[@Baker.Matthew]

@@grahamt5924 funny how at 1.5 there are still long uncomfortable pauses.

[@krs5124]

Great tip!

[@OldScientist]

Between 1961 and 2021 global cereal production increased 250% and cereal yield increased over 200%. Land used for cereal hardly increased (Data from World Bank, FAO/UN). This is the only time in human history that you are more likely to be overfed rather than underfed. We should be thankful we were borne into an age of such abundance. A US DoE study (Taylor & Schlenker, 2021) estimated that a 1 ppm increase in CO2 led to an increase of 0.4%, 0.6% and 1% in yield for corn, soybeans and wheat, respectively, and that CO2 increase was the main driver of the 500% yield growth in corn since 1940. Global tomato production has set a record each year for the past 10 years. Banana production has doubled in 20 years. All 10 of the largest sugar crops in global history occurred during the past 10 years. All 10 of the 10 largest rice crop years occurred during the past 10 years (UNFAO). 2023 was another record cereal crop. Increases in cereal production since 1961: Africa +384%, Asia +348%, Australia +458%, Europe +110%, North America +184%, South America +547%. Percentage increase in production in all regions also exceeded the percentage increase in population. Global and regional food security is improving. 2024-2025 will see another record high production of wheat, soybeans and rice. Compared with a decade ago, the world will harvest in 2024-25 about 10% more wheat, about 15% more corn, nearly 30% more soybeans, and about 10% more rice. Global food supply (kcal per capita per day) has increased from 2181kcal in 1961 to a record 2959kcal in 2021.

[@jchinckley]

Grow your own food. A very small plot is enough to grow sufficient food for a family of perhaps 10 people. Just stay away from Monsanto seeds.

[@howardkong8927]

Sure, if only we had enough fertile land for that.

[@SamS-lr5ub]

I think in urban (or even suburban) areas, for the AVERAGE family, finding enough land to become self-sufficient in food would be almost impossible. Probably the best that the (average) family can do is to spare a bedroom. Using hydroponics, food farming techniques etc., how much food/calories/nutrients can we grow in that room? What would be extra cost of that endeavour? Overall, would it be profitable, under different prevailing economic/social/cultural conditions? How would it work in different parts of the world - in the first world, second world, and third world countries, for instance?

[@johnbaxter189]

Individual gardening is more environmentally friendly and more convenient than commercial garden. How many can't or don't feed themselves? It's shocking how people's do weird things to beg dollar for food. Why not cut all the bullshits out and just grow ur foods. Bad poor education I say.

[@johnbaxter189]

@@howardkong8927 there's more than enuff land. Some one quoted the other day that just America lawns cud feed half the world. Can't eat grass friends! More than enuff space. Get rid of commercial farming and spread the people's on that land and we cud produce a 100 times more foods. Mono culture against poly culture I think.

[@johnbaxter189]

Small spaces can produce far more foods if managed right. People's grow on walls roofs every space they can use. Space isn't a problem. Water really isn't a problem, actually growing isn't a problem. It's getting lazy people's to realise they can't rely on others. Built a poor paupers society we have. Growing is the only answer. And trust its easier for one man to get his own than that commercial rubbish.

[@keepitsoggy]

She talked about not all foods being made equal, yet didn't differentiate between any types of food - only talking about calories. This is exactly the wrong way of approaching this issue. Good health is not achieved through calories entirely sourced from fat, sugar or other poor quality foods. Our bodies require vitamins, minerals...NUTRIENTS! SOME of which nutrients happen to contain dietary calories - essential fats, carbs and high quality plant proteins. Defining food security based upon raw calories is misguided, and increasingly so, as more and more of the caloric foods produced in the world are of lower and lower nutrient density. We are already in a food crisis. Parts of the world are plagued by life threatening vitamin and mineral deficiencies, over-reliance upon poor quality protein crops, natural plant toxicants and microbiologically compromised crops. Not even to mention all the obesity, diabetes, metabolic syndrome, heart disease, cancer, inflammatory and metabolic diseases caused by people not just in western countries, but globally, consuming far too many calories and not enough nutrients!!!

[@bbbbrrrzzt5166]

Not fats and sugars, just essential fats and carbs. Right.

[@keepitsoggy]

bbbbrrrzzt to maintain satisfactory health our bodies need polyunsaturated fats, starch, fiber, simple sugars, protein, vitamins, minerals and polyphenols. They do not need saturated fat, cholesterol or free sugars. Hope that clears it up

[@CarrotConsumer]

None of that matters if you don't have calories.

[@keepitsoggy]

Ealdy ...not really. You'd die of vitamin deficiencies months and months before you would ever die of not getting enough calories.

[@pennymac16]

Actually, due to the biological mechanism known as "ketosis," carbohydrates (which include any form of sugar, simple or other) are not essential for human bodies and satisfactory health. However, it wouldn't be viable to have everyone (or even a majority) on a diet without carbs.

[@MatthewBissonnette88]

I believe I read somewhere that some species of the aquatic plant kelp both fresh water and salt water can actually be eaten by people and be converted by the human digestive system and be used for both nutrients and energy. The Japanese use seaweed as a garnish in some of their foods so the theory is sound; if mankind could find a crop that could be grown off coasts or in rivers and other bodies of fresh water then we would geometrically increase the size of usable farming land to humanity; in might be sound in theory.

[@jeffbingaman2754]

Commercial farming is not only communistic but it creates higher amounts of pests and pollution. The dust bowl was created from commercial farming.

[@worldeconomicsbro]

She is talking economics without any economics.

[@ybet1000]

Least the shirt she was wearing was interesting

[@paxwallacejazz]

Decade... aren't you optimistic! Within 2 years expect catastrophic agricultural collapse globally.

[@kaymccall2578]

I AGREE 200%!!!!!

[@shashanks631]

locust swarms r already here in india, pakistan, sudan, somalia, yemen, iran. in india 2019 was the year of floods, droughts, hailstorms. millions of farmers r in absolute distress, 11000 registered farmer suicides in one year.

[@marshish83]

@Aidan Etterer It's looking pretty rational now! You're comment made sense 2 months ago when you made it, but due to the virus, fertilizer shortage, locusts spreading across Africa, the middle East, and Asia, poor crop yields in north America, and countries beginning to ban exports, your comment unfortunately did not age well! :(

paxwallacejazz only took one year

[@bryce4395]

well about that-

[@aznfratboy1]

I wonder how much food wastage contributes to this issue.

[@namelastname4077]

and all due to 2-for-1 discounts. oh the irony

[@habiyakarelj]

Name last name, we sure love a discount!!! Hahahahhh

[@johnbaxter189]

Massively does food waste contribute. America's just had massive floods and now all corn/wheat is wasted. The climate is "wasting" crops as we speak.

[@johnbaxter189]

America is in for the biggest shock. People's in other countries no how to go without, Americans don't. Oh how America's burger dream is collapsing.

[@wormwood6424]

2 4 1 lol..... if there wasn't so much of it, it wouldn't be so cheap and thrown in the dustbin.

[@laneromel5667]

Biggest problem is the people who should be speaking are silent and the people who should be quiet are speaking

[@JesseWetherell]

yea I just wrote a massive post and then didn't post it!

[@allenallen9971]

White vs Black..my remedy whites use more opiates, and heroin, problem solved

[@zackwise1852]

"This is the first time that I'm sharing what we discovered." So no peer review yet then? Cool, glad we're portraying this as fact.

[@habiyakarelj]

Maybe she meant, this is the first time they are sharing this information with the rest of the world, aka Public!

[@izzzzzz6]

It's actually going to be much worse than she is making out. This is not the only problem we will face regarding famine. With the worlds population just peaking we may need less food in 50 years from now on-wards but water is going to be an issue over those next 50 years. We need to plant trees like never before. We need to put a stop to deforestation and desertification. We need to stop overeating and to stop wasting food. Many of the countries that import could grow for themselves but without solving these other issues you can expect to see famine. Now, whatever the media choose to report and what they blame it on is another issue. Institutions are evil!

[@tesfuweldemikael2902]

If you want to see some realistic predictions, consult the FAO and not Tedx.

[@medicmike4906]

The Chinese have already figured this out... Have you ever heard of their one Road one belt initiative to take over India and Africa? They have already locked up 11 African countries. And they are not doing this with goodness in their hearts. China is the new pre-world war 2 Hitler Germany..

[@josephmoilliet8194]

In 2017, the world produced enough calories to feed 11 billion people. We have a transportation and waste issue before we have production problem

[@zaynumar0]

Facts. Very interesting

[@LanNguyen-mh2mh]

Her model didn't mention the growing trend of obesity even in calories net importer like China. So changing consumption pattern is not the story of "asking developed countries act on your behalf". Eating less calories and food with richer nutritional values are even more important than filling the gap of calories deficit

[@MrKhanh-ek3zq]

Yeah, you are on the right path. Calories is a good measure but we can change that.

[@MrKhanh-ek3zq]

By the way love you

[@DaleModisette]

*_It all came about after a project I worked on to design a green subdivision with many others. I thought I could do more and started gathering info. That was when G+ was still invite only. A village is a 50 million dollar undertaken. Then broke it down to a what I call Dartanyan's Restaurant & Farm but again that was 5 million dollar undertaken. So I decided trying a homeless shelter with my knowledge._* *1.9848 acre per person living in a sustainable village (234 people and 464.4432 acres for the village)* 80% crafted, made and grown in said village And 20% are raw materials, food not grown, medical equipment/supplies, electronics and etc. - 0.6250 acre of farmland/person (146.2500ac) - 0.0892 acre of farmland products to be sold/person (20.8728ac) - 0.2321 acre of living area/person (54.3114ac) - 0.0214 acre of wine vineyards/person (5.0076ac) - 0.0714 acre of ponds/person (16.7076ac) - 0.1069 acre of coffee/person or 3,456 trees (25.0146ac) [555 trees/2.4711 acres or 1 Hectare] - 0.0071 acre of teas/person (1.6614ac) - 0.0142 acre of herbs/person (3.3228ac) - 0.1428 acre of schools/person (33.4152ac) - 0.2142 acre of park & wildlife/person (50.1228ac) - 0.1428 acre of village square/person (33.4152ac) - 0.1785 acre of livestock/person (41.7690ac) - 0.1392 acre of roads & etc/person (32.5728ac) _________________________________________________________________ *By using a mix of permaculture and aquaponics which in turn use 90% less water to grow food and a minimum of twice as fast :* * Reduces Labor by 75% * Reuses 95% of the water * Low Electricity Need (use solar to stay off the grid) * Faster Vegetable * Longer Shelf Life * Organic Mineral Rich * Produces Its own Fertilizer * Non-Contaminated Fish * Use of Tiger Shrimp &/or Crawfish to clean algae * Uses of the Bacteria and fecal matter are collected to make Methane in place of natural gas &/or Decomposed solids to worm bin which turn is used to make Compost Tea is brewed from worm casting and water. The tea can be used for Fruit Orchard to increase Microbial Content in the soil. __________________________________________________________________ *The Helpful Garden* The idea is to design a homeless shelter using Aquaponics and permaculture to feed them as well as make money for them. Each place will have 9 to 13 (12 x 18) 216 sq ft building for living in. So the *"Helpful Garden"* will be shelter to up to 13 people as well as a farmers market. The one thing about homeless shelters is that one can be built every 80 miles about or so. I can see a minimum of 3000 homeless shelters of the "Helpful Garden" being built worldwide. (Powered by solar & wind) To build said place is about $500,000 depending where it built. Though it won't need donation or government grants to run for all it's money comes from it farmers market. *Profits:* 40% profit breakdown: Money needed for sheltered women: $15,000/each allotted to each tiny home each year. plus stables (Example: coffee, sugar, flour, salt and pepper) 60% profit breakdown: 10% to building new Helpful Gardens 20% to maintenance 15% to college grants 15% to etc. *_Budget : $500,000_* *1.)* Land : 3+ acres (Budget $25,000.00 or less) *2.)* Tiny Homes: 9 to 13 (12 x 18) 216 sq ft [on ½ acre] (Budget $156,000.00 or less) *3.)* Intake Office: 600 Sq ft (Budget $25,000.00 or less) *4.)* Farmers Market: ½ acre (Budget $45,000.00 or less) *5.)* Parking Lot: ¼ acre (Budget $5,000.00) *6.)* Aquaponics and Permaculture Farm: 1 ¾ acres (Budget $109,000.00 or more) a.) Up to 3 different fish b.) Tiger shrimp c.) Crayfish d.) 3 different apple and pears trees so [to have them throughout the year] e.) Citrus trees like lemons, oranges and 2 two others. f.) Chickens (meat and eggs) g.) Goats (milk and cheese) h.) Honey Bees 4 to 6 hives i.) 2 fig trees (maybe) j.) Freshwater mussels (maybe) k.) Rabbits (maybe) *_Powered : [Total Budget $135,000.00]_* *1.)* Solar (Budget $90,000) a.) Tiny Homes 13 set of 4 - 250 watt cell with light sensors (52 solar cells) cost between $27,287.00 and $36,387.00 b.) Aquaponics System - (?) c.) Intake Office - set of 6 - 250 watt cell with light sensors (cost between $3,148.50 and $4,198.50) d.) Farmers Market - (?) *2.)* Wind Power - (Budget $45,000) a.) Windmill electric generator 15 to 30 KW cost between $18,000 - $48,000 ________________________________________________________________________ *Just some working notes:* Payroll for security : $3,900/wk $16,900/mo $202,800/yr 3 full time: ($24/hr) $2,880/wk $12,480/mo $149,760/yr 4 part time: 17 hour work week ($15/hr) $1,020/wk $4,420/mo $53,040/yr Payroll for gardeners : same as security Volunteers : 36 (though it's like $6/hr to help pay for their gas and childcare if needed). $4,320/wk $18,720/mo $224,640/yr Total payroll : $427,440/yr Money needed for sheltered women: $144,000/yr or $12,000/each allotted to each tiny home (12) Money of the other 60% profit equals $270,000 $450,000 plus payroll equals $958,769.04 Needed $263.34/hr@70/hr@52/wk=$958,769.04 235,000 lbs vegetables @$0.5/lb=$32.28/hr or 64.56 lbs/hr or 645.5 lbs/day 30,000 lbs fish/crayfish/shrimp @ $3/lbs = $247.251/day or $90,000.00/yr *These are all low ball figures* $174,720 online sales per year $117,500 vegetable sale per year $90,000.00 meat sales per year $500 honey sales per year At point soda sales per year Snack & hot food sale per year Cloths & wares sales per year Frozen food sales per year Canning goods sales per year Dairy/cheese sales per year

[@AzjatyckiCukier]

Or.... stop feeding key grains to food? Yes, I know it's a consumption pattern and so, not subject of the talk, but maybe putting in place global bans on how much food can be fed to food would help? Like, a global agreement to reduce current 40% to like 20%?

[@AngelaSealana]

This is awesome in the true sense of the world. How amazing that TED and KZbin are making the propagation of this message possible. I will be changing my behaviors and sharing this.

[@Mojave4ever]

When you dismiss demand (i.e., birthrate) and look to "governments" or "studies" to focus on and address demand, then it is not possible to identify the problem. Generally speaking, when you intentionally refuse to identify any given problem, you will only find an effective solution by accident.

[@codeoflife9713]

This is a very complex problem. I do believe though, that FASTING can not only change our health to the better but it can also help with this global problem. I am talking about sustainable fasting. Fasting that can change the way we live, the way we think and the way we behave. Eating, for example, one meal a day is not only a great prevention of noncommunicable diseases but it also saves our decision processes and in the end of a day, the resources of our planet.

[@kizarumelon2477]

and u r right.....

[@heresteven]

Covid and supply chain disruptions and extreme weather events is making this come true.

[@petercoombs4862]

Great talk, but I noticed one thing missing. I can't speak for other places, but I think that I can say that Africa has enough land and manpower not only to be self-sufficient, but to become a large exporter of calories. It seems to me that potable water is the only problem in this equation (that, and ignorant government officials); and this is a BIG problem. There is a huge, prehistoric aquifer beneath the Saharan desert, but it's already been stretched to where the water in places must be brought up from such a depth that it is nearly boiling hot when it reaches the surface. This is not sustainable. With ocean levels rising, they should be looking into an affordable method of fresh water extraction. This might possibly kill the proverbial two birds. And when I say 'they,' I am referring to all of the African governments working together. They could also learn water conservation from India, mass production from Canada and GMO modification from the US, but these may only be stop-gap measures. An African Union like Europe has, where governments work together for a common good and the creation of a cheap, fresh water source will turn the tide and give Africans what they need not only to be self sufficient, but to become a supplier of calories in a time when green will become the new gold.

[@wade5941]

If there is a global food crisis it will be because of government and not because we can't produce the food. Quantity of food is not the issue.

[@dylannn8022]

Correct its already almost here

[@konvosationblak9640]

Two years later and you are absolutely right

[@SlowTyperist]

It is not just because of the government but all of the people. Change starts as individuals and those individuals should not just rely on the government. Go reduce food waste, go green, etc. As what she said, "waiting for the others to change their behavior on your behalf, for your survival, is a terrible idea. It's unproductive."

[@MayaUndefined]

It's here this year in 2022 :-( I hope it doesn't end up being as bad as I think it will

[@basboer1043]

This is nothing, im a farmer and next year we wont have enough fertilizer worldwide wich will plummit production in all sectors. We farmers warned for this and still even in holland the goverment is actively destroying farms for green agendas. We farmers will do our best

[@MayaUndefined]

@@basboer1043 I suspect in the near future everybody is going to think about farming or become farmers

[@michaels4255]

Glad someone is bringing attention to this, but two problems she did not touch on. One, inputs for the green revolution are costly. Especially as oil becomes more scarce and expensive in the decades just ahead, transport costs, machinery operation costs, fertilizer and pesticide costs will all become much higher, making hard to sustain much less expand the green revolution. (I know, electric cars will save us, blah, blah, blah--heard it all, and, no, fill-in-the-blank will not avert this crisis.) Second, grain prices have a long history of going up when sunspots activity goes down, and a solar cyclical low is starting now. If one wishes to understand the scientific explanation for this established phenomenon, I refer you to the works of Henrik Svensmark and Jan Veizer, among others. Solar activity hit an 8000 year peak during the global warming scare at the end of the 20th century, accompanied by warmer temperatures, reliable growing seasons, and stable weather patterns. As we continue to enter into the developing cyclical low in solar activity, we should expect to see the opposite, as we did during previous prolonged lows in solar magnetic field strength. Indeed, satellite data indicate that temperatures already have been trending lower for over a decade, with record low temperatures far outnumbering new record highs, with many places around the world experiencing unseasonably cool temperatures, record snowfalls, changes in precipitation, and other weather extremes increasingly reminiscent of previous prolonged lows in the sunspot cycle, a proxy for solar magnetic field strength. We should expect these trends to become much more severe during the next decade. Will the green revolution be able to be vastly expanded amid the triple whammy of increasing energy scarcity, the climate effects of the next grand solar minimum, and the slowing economic growth (or outright contraction) that results from servicing the all time record global debt burden (which is still expanding, you may have noticed)? I am not optimistic.

[@lilaclizard4504]

Just as well climate stopped shadowing sunspots a couple of hundred years ago then I guess :) Anyway, agree on the inputs, but add another point, mined phosphorous supplies are limited & expected to run out in 50-100 years. The more countries that increase their use, the faster they get used up. Check out "holistic grazing" it has some serious potential to be modified to replace those inputs, while adding food into the system. Basically they mob animals together in mass herds, 5000 cows in a paddock that would normally hold 20, but only leave them there for 1 day then move them on & repeat. It's being used to reverse desertification, but imagine if you used a herd to mow down crop waste after harvest, think about the amount of fertiliser coming off those animals as they follow the harvesters around! (in some systems, they add chickens 3 days later too, to feed off the maggots in the dung patties & add more manure). It also of course removes all need to harvest any food for cattle as they self harvest, or for the fertiliser machinery & because the animals are rotated so much, the de-wormers etc are no longer needed, because they die off from no hosts before the animals return & managed properly, this adds carbon/humus into the soil, which makes the plants stronger & so they need far less pesticides. In pure grazing land, they plant perennials & herbicides are eliminated too, because the mass animal numbers mean weeds end up being trampled & dying, while the favourite food seeds are passed through in the dung in the highest numbers for regrowing We consumers need to be demanding grass fed meat & eating more meat to make this system roll out more widely faster

[@vadhnasamedyhun4700]

The map that shows the self-sufficient and importers of calories 40 years ago is somewhat wrong. Take a look at Cambodia, a country which locates in South East Asia with highlighted blue. No, we were so poor 40 years old, between 1975-1979, my country was in genocide regime led by Pol Pot, the people were forced to overwork without getting enough foods to eat or survive, approximately 2 millions of people were killed.

[@zacmonarch4845]

That's what will happen again buddy..I'm sure u are glad u made it through.. probably learned some stuff too..I pray for a quick and insufferable end

[@bright93]

The presenter said the world could make enough food to prevent enormous calorie deficits because farmers in Africa and elsewhere had yields the same as farmers in the US in 1940. Thus, these farmers need only adapt the industrial food production used in the US. However, this depends on finite and diminishing water resources and heavy use of petroleum derived chemicals. I think it likely that watershed scarcity will become a more acute problem sooner than later and there is credible evidence that the once vaunted peak oil may be on the horizon. I would want to know how these and perhaps other factors would impact food production.

[@micael3550]

We are already producing food for 9 billion people,but sadly much of it is going to waste...

[@MajkaSrajka]

We will solve it when it will start to become the problem.

[@paperEATER101]

They've been telling this to us at least since Malthus ...Erlich was telling us 50 years ago to get ready imminently for hundreds of millions of starvation deaths all over the world ...food prices have gone down and up and down since 2008 ...most famines of recent decades occurred despite ample available food, rotting in cargo ships etc., while war-torn infrastructure or meddling governments got in the way of distribution.

[@milanimorales2645]

Well livestock has been on the decline since colonialism in the U.S.A. has taken flight. So there goes all the Big Macs.

[@Ymf207]

It’s kind of depressing knowing I was brought into this life just to suffer when this earth can’t and won’t be able to produce food for every person on earth, and I feel for everyone in the future who won’t be able to have a good sustainable life. All I can do now is be optimistic for some type of miracle but I highly doubt that will become true.

[@jonahlynx94]

What does "food crisis" mean? What does the "tipping point" mean? Why is data from India being compared with the entire continent of Africa? Why are food imports measured in just calories? I'm so confused by this talk...

[@1234beckyt]

me too

[@TheFourthWinchester]

Indians and Indian politicians will never touch commercialization of agriculture simply because over half of India lives in its villages and they form a major voter base. Indians have been brutalized by big industries and corrupt polticians far too many times in the past 70 years to ever let their lands go and lose their livelihood. Educating them and changing their habits to increase yield and implement sustainable agriculture which doesn't let the land go barren is the next big step. Aside from this, the world has to change. Most of the crops are wasted on feeding animals which in turn are eaten by humans everywhere outside India (which doesn't consume much meat even though a majority are non-vegetarians and even though they can afford it). This puts a huge strain on the environment and agriculture as well. Change that culture first.

[@jakeyoung3117]

So is this base purely on the import and export of calories from each country? And if so how do we know that is directly tied to if there is enough calories for the population?

[@manubhatt3]

Its the best possible scenario.

[@montessoriinternational1607]

China was self sufficiant in food 40 years ago and so were many European countries. As a child or youth you could mit even buy imported food with some few exeptions. There is something wrong in the assumptions.

[@thecloverleafproject3729]

The shift is Covid19 and we can see how all that the speaker is saying is currently happening.

[@Charles-Anthony]

I thought that lab-grown meat was going to be the solution. Labs can now grow highly nutritious "meat" for a low price. Moreover, the biotechnology revolution will enable GMO crops to grow in harsh conditions.

[@dangelobenjamin]

Charles yeah and vertical farms save so much space. China can benefit the most from this i think

[@laowyn4414]

Charles GMOs are not the solution now like they were not the solution during the "Green revolution". They will only help already developed country, which is not the point.

[@mackiwawa]

Naa its still about £500 to grow one burger

[@lilaclizard4504]

lab meat needs fetal bovine serum to be produced - that means killing a pregnant cow & then draining all the unborn baby's blood to kill it & then using that blood to grow the meat. No thanks! GM is stupid! Well it's not, but those controlling it are using it purely for profit, so it's a lost cause! Why would you use GM corn when you can simply grow a genetically diverse corn like painted mountain corn & within 2-3 seasons of planting the best seed from your crop, you have corn PERFECTLY suited to your conditions. Then again, why would you even grow corn when sorghum produces as much food but can tolerate droughts & uses much less food & water. Then of course there's NASA's Mars potato experiment that found 8 different species of potatoes capable of growing in the toughest conditions on earth or mars, with no gm needed

[@lilaclizard4504]

& China doesn't need verticle farms, they're spending billions on farmland & water projects for them in Africa, which is just as well, because verticle farms are a novelty for hippies wanting super fresh leafy greens & herbs. No-one's using them for anything that actually needs high light & nutrients, or produces significant calories

[@ericblair3009]

Interesting and she makes many good points.... ONE of the biggest issues is food WASTE! Part of that problem is that MANY people do not understand the difference between BEST by dates V EXP dates.... food is generally still good 10 years past the best by date. Another big issue is "what is food?" Watch the show "bizarre foods with Andrew Zimmern sp?" foods from one area is considered bizarre in other areas. BOTH issues can be improved with education.....

[@bonuschallengekabaaega643]

You know better when you already plan it

[@Kongolox]

tougher regulation on food waste and investments in agriculture around the globe.

[@karmacomacure]

welp.....here we are.

[@kizarumelon2477]

yes...

[@Mrgonzouk]

Half way there.... I'll put this comment reminder in my calendar for 5 years time.

[@sanjuansteve]

I'd like to see every home and school in the world with at least an indoor vertical garden! :D

[@anushricharmer5469]

Why not to work on population control instead. In developed countries already population is in control but in developing country, have one child policy. Why to live a life of insect with more population , have smaller family then live with more resources per capita

[@nowayjose4073]

I share this vision

[@lordhater4207]

I don't think a vertical garden will feed 50 or so children one man in Africa has on average, instead of Africans focusing on producing more food for citizens, how bout they stop producing citizens, say one child policy, half the world population in 50 years, it will happen one way or another.

[@sanjuansteve]

@@lordhater4207 I agree that we should all plant food everywhere. And I think we should share it freely. But you make yourself sound like a MAGA bigot with your comment.

[@lordhater4207]

@@sanjuansteve Facts are African countries average 6 children per women whilst developed first world countries average 1,5 and whilst you can supplement or feed a family on a single vertical garden, you can't feed average 8 people on it, no way especially if you take into account what this woman said, mainly caloric value rather than just mass, plus all of it (the gardens) hinge on availability of fresh water which we don't have enough especially in Africa second thing chemical fertilisers not present, which then returns us to the biggest problem food production faces....people. more people more problems, cut number of people and spend within your means you won't have an issue with starvation, children won't have to suffer and neither would adults, cut the number of people and you will have enough it is the most rational solution.

[@gurpreetdhaliwal8977]

I have read that the issue isn't the production of food the issue is distribution..the food wastage in developed countries is unimaginable..

[@KonniWynn]

Eat insects. They have alot of calories and nutritions but don't need the monstorous amounts of food and water every animal alive(especially cows) need.

[@0xNameless]

Global food crisis is this year... Chinese floods last year, Ukraine War leading to huge drops in wheat production and Russian export bans, then massive fertiliser shortages... 2022 will a special type of bad...

[@nparviz82]

Whats up with her charts?

[@robheusd]

You'll need closed cycle agriculture to keep producing food to cirumvent the problems of droughts, esp. in large cities. And to keep farming on open fields in countries like the Sahel, you need to plant lots of trees - the African Great Green Wall project. And cheap ways for desalinating water like MemStill (membrane destillation) which uses excess heat from industry or power production or solar to create clean drinking water at a low prive (0.40 $/m3).

[@dlgnelson1]

A very good, well constructed, and thought-provoking presentation.

[@ChaddyFPV]

2022 it started already this food crisis. Africa again was hit first.

[@EastwardTraveller]

It doesn't matter how much we're able to increase agricultural yeilds through traditional farming, or how far we advance our ability to distribute that food equitably. The only thing that will be able to overcome the problem of how to feed 10+ billion people sustainably in the coming decades is vertical farming. A ton of R&D is going to have to go in to figuring out how to grow the majority of our crops in indoor, AI-controlled vertical farming operations. We have to grow our food with a fraction of the required topsoil, freshwater, chemical fertilizer and pesticide inputs. You could double our agricultural yield and move to 100% efficiency in food distribution and it would not solve our problem. Why? Because industrial agriculture would still be entirely unsustainable in the long term. According to the UN the world has, on average, 60 years of topsoil left. We're burning and churning through our precious topsoil with our intensive farming techniques. The solution does not lie in making for even more intensive agriculture, it lies in wildly transformative technological breakthroughs in vertical farming. Or we could just figure out how to find more arable land, how to farm that land even more intensively, and stave off an apocalyptic future with billions of people succumbing to famine by a few more decades. Who needs forests or flying insects anyways, right?

[@patriciahammett4197]

Kurt Coleman, trees produce the oxygen we breathe and insects pollinate.

[@thagamereview9170]

Somehow I get the feeling that most third world country and other countries that aren't associated with the whole industrialization, will have more land for agriculture and in the future we see where there will be a lots of demand. This could turn some continents who are more into agriculture a huge success. No wonder 🤔 most of the countries where so much interested into African and Indian markets for investment.

[@akeemperez8509]

Bottom line, 2/3 of the population just needs to walk into the ocean.

[@kayjaysok]

Idiot

[@kayjaysok]

Can you be first

[@grahamt5924]

zombie apocalypse

[@anushricharmer5469]

Or try to control population growth by having fewer children?!

[@The_Healing_Facilitator]

So relevant today in 2022.

[@domsau2]

Summarize: reform Africa's agriculture, now!

[@philipb2134]

Sara Menker might be right in her overall analysis, but I' am certain that the map she presented of the situation 40 years ago 07:10 is flawed. The calorie-deficit countries all appear in the same shade of red, regardless of the circumstances of each country. For example, Japan had a population roughly twice that of France, living on less than 400K sq km vs 550K sq km in France; and had only about 15% arable land vs a third in France. Were Japanese farmers so much more productive that they could feed twice as many on their approx 60,000 sq km of arable land as the French could on approx 180,000 sq km of arable land? I doubt it.

[@AOSDenver]

It takes roughly 3,500 calories in crops to produce a 410 calorie mcdouble. The reason people starve is because others desire burgers and steaks daily. Just imagine the control the us could have if it stopped consuming so much protein and with the extra calories made other countries dependant.

[@AwesomeCrackDealer]

For someone who worked on wall st she seems to have ignored how the market responds to growing demands

[@michaelglenning5107]

The GSM starting in 2019 will user in the global famine only hinted at in the 2008 food riots. As time progresses, the end of the interglacial period will hammer down the world's populations and economies.

[@arcturusgold8858]

The soil used in Agricultural in the UK has overall only 9 more years effectiveness for producing food before its is completely useless. Some patches may be usable but unless a solution can be found it will cause havoc for farmers and consumers alike. What other countries have the same problem?

[@sstyx8]

@Microbuilder After this years flooding do you still think we have surplus food for the entire world?

[@CaedenV]

How will it happen? Highly automated warehouse farming! Solar panels, LED lighting, and humidity controls make it so you can grow almost any small to medium sized crop in a warehouse setting in places with very little land, water, or power availability. Due to the nature of such a controlled environment it means you can grow almost any crop in almost any part of the world during any time of the year. Always fresh, always local, with minimal need for pesticides or weeding. This won't help for large crops like trees or corn, but pretty much anything shorter than 6' tall can be grown in a warehouse environment. We can decentralize food production. This food shortfall is only an issue if we continue using massive land-track farming for everything. Yes, the cost of setup is higher than traditional farming. But the year round yields in Japan and Korea where a lot of this is starting is proving that the per-crop price of this farming is equal or cheaper than traditional farming. And with LED and solar prices continuing to fall it is just a matter of time before everyone is farming this way.

[@lilaclizard4504]

it works for LETTUCE! Lettuce is NOT going to save the world from starvation!

[@CaedenV]

If you really want to be stereotypical then it works for weed; but the reality is that it works for plants. There are practical issues when dealing with root structure and plant height, but it really works for a great many things, not just lettuce and weed. The main reason why lettuce was a good test crop is because it has a short shelf life, does not travel well, and takes lots of land that many asian countries dont have available, so they were able to keep the test crop prices at or below import costs on it. But now that LED and solar prices have dropped many of the same companies that were doing lettuce a few years ago (and which all the articles you read about it are based on) have started experimenting with other plants as well.

[@lilaclizard4504]

IT does NOT work for legalised weed! It only works for weed if the prices are sky high! Legalised weed is grown in greenhouses with natural sunlight NOT stacked in warehouses! Even with LED lights, the cooling & ventilation needs make it crazy! & that's before you start on the pollination issues that go with most crops!

[@vaibhavgupta20]

In India half, the land is arable same in land area as in the US. problem with India is old farming techniques. once technology updates there will be huge productivity increase.

[@charlescoe226]

Yea i'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with the billions of people living in a space a fraction the size of the U.S....

[@anushricharmer5469]

What is size of India and it's population compared to land available in US and number of people. India needs to work on population control. Having multiple children in a family and then thinking how to feed them, and abuse nature further. why not try to have one child policy in India, soon India's population will be reduced, more resources to every person. What is better quality or quantity? Having fewer well fed, well educated children or starving huge number of children.

[@BillyColbertUSA]

This talk was two years ago and she predicted 10 years to a tipping point. Crop failures due to the GSM is going to make this happen much faster. Start growing your own food.

[@shashanks631]

india is already facing farm crisis, v r importing mustard oil, sunflower oil, palm oil, onions, pulses in bulk & several packaged food items. locust attacks were also witnessed in western regions of india including pakistan, iran, yemen, sudan, somalia. some edibles r already beyond purchasing power of even middle class, overall food inflation is up by 14.2% within single year, few items (onions, potatoes, etc) r up by 100-200%.

[@kathfennemore1131]

You forgot that we have not discovered enough phosphorous resources to feed the planet past 2030

[@leslirodriguezbendezu1497]

Please where can I find more info about the phosphorous , it is not available in the environment and it can not be created Synthetically in a lab?

[@philtripe]

here in southern az we used to get about 12 killing frosts every winter plus some snow...and since the 1980's when i moved here , every year we get less killing frost and no snow, a few years ago we hit 5 frosts and last year for the first time we had zero and more rain than ever...sounds great at first as i thought i don't have to plant new crops but it turned out the plants are about 10 percent productivity of last year and i was not able to start any new plants because most plants cant germinate above 90 degrees F and since my old ones never died i have been trying to get by but i have spent alot of money this year buying vegetables that i normally just grow

[@jarfuloflove7320]

Don't worry, excess demand will fix itself when supply does not match.

[@babybeel8787]

Jarful of Love well if there is an excess of demand then the prices will grow and there will be demonstrations out in the streets, we are in a context of globalization, hence we need to satisfy the demand quicker

[@booombasa]

If food goes up in price only a few percent globaly you know millions are dying of hunger.

[@jarfuloflove7320]

Baby Beel demonstrations in which streets? You think population growth in sub-saharan africa is going to dramatically increase the price of food in the West? Why?

[@TheRealFlenuan]

NO WORRIES MUH INVIZIBULL HAND WILL FIX EVERYTHANG IN THE END

[@tely5]

So, Africa may be able to produce enough food to feed itself through green revolution? In USA, we produce an excess of food, but that is because agriculture is so efficient through consolidation, such that only 1 or 2 percent of the people are actually farming. Which works just fine when everyone else has jobs+money. What is supposed to happen in Africa when all of those small scale farmers are out of work? Who will invest in large farms if no one has money to buy the food? Will the continent be politically stable? I have heard all of my life, 50+ years, the world has the ability to feed itself, and yet people still starve. The current global system works great as long as there are enough jobs+money for everyone. If jobs are all automated/consolidated, if money is sucked away through growing wealth inequality, the system will not function so well. And those who think this system is the solution for everything will wish they had bothered to reform/tweak it for such changes, and perhaps instead find it replaced by something that is not of their choosing.

[@MrAykut23]

SOUTH AMERICA IS GOING TO GET RICH BABY

[@CarrotConsumer]

SOUTH AMERICA BABY!!!!! IT'S A MASTAHPEICE!!!!

[@wen6519]

You really liked this talk to comment 4 times dude @.@

[@holleey]

its forests are SO much more valuable than any monetary riches you can imagine...

[@holleey]

@MoralSingularity that's of course a state of emergency - no one can really argue with someone starving. but just be aware that by excessively logging down those forests today, the global ecosystem is going to be fucked up for many generations to come, and the loss of bio-diversity may not be restorable.

[@amackbolan9407]

In 1984 and 1985 there were two large concerts done to raise money and awareness of the hunger problem, and they raised millions of dollars to send aid to Africa. However a large part of that went to waste having wound up in the hands of corrupt governments. The same happened in India and other places, google "food aid waste". You might want to start looking into your own future, whenever you buy groceries buy an extra can of peas, or corn, or beans, etc. and start your own bank of food. Always, Always remember "SOYLENT GREEN is PEOPLE!

[@camicus-3249]

Just eat the other 1 billion. It's a win win situation!

[@KonniWynn]

YAY! Except that's super unhealthy! But who cares when you starve!

[@lilaclizard4504]

I want to eat some vegans!

[@sophiaxu7547]

Camicus - but everyone will die at the end

[@araincs]

Considering most of this starvation is going to be happening in africa I assume this will be the natural outcome.

[@lilaclizard4504]

Nuclear war reduces available farmland too,(and kills innocent species) so is really NOT a solution! A major flu or other human specific disease pandemic would be much more effective if you want to go down that path! (free birth control to anyone who wanted it even better) We don't need to destroy the planet for all life!

[@648Roland]

It's ironic that only those who have enough food, have access to electricity and by extension, the internet to see this will agree but will do nothing more. Grow food for ourselves and nature instead of lawns as a start.

[@repentforthekindomofheaven5644]

Whos here in 2020 Not so funny now right !! God have Mercy on us all !!

[@Milgamix77]

1:48 "I was a commodities trader in my past life" Is she serious right here or am i just going insane? Did she really see her past life? How?

[@Gabe62046]

Cannibalisme anyone? Let’s bring it back!

[@tonia2483]

Who’s watching during the coronavirus?

[@teddysmitht2220]

Yup, couldn't help but to see this coming & now................... It has arrived.

[@mrmeow2297]

this aged very well

[@richardrose9943]

Well this aged well

[@mubopo]

Great speech/talk

[@billyjoesmo8251]

We have had a loss of up 50% of crop yields this year.Hail storms To much or to little rain. Future prospects are grimm.

[@noviceprepper5397]

interesting presentation, thank you. from the little I think I know China and Chinese companies are all over African resources and infrastructure, offering loans and other incentives. some of those loans will default. the presenter makes it sound as if ordinary africans own the resources in their countries. I don't believe that is the case. africa cannot be the supplier of food in the world because african countries, in some instances, don't own their resources. other countries, other businesses in other countries, not just china, own those resources. think how it would be in america if america's bread basket in the midwest were owned by russia, england or any other than american companies. america wouldn't be a net exporter. I don't believe most african countries will be allowed to be net exporter because, in my largely ignorant and uninformed opinion, many poor countries have their resources stripped from them, sometimes by corrupt leaders who allow loans to default for a pay day or by outside countries paying far less than the fair market value of the resources, meaning that effectively the country cannot invest in education for it's citizens, or in it's infrastructure. when countries with resources try to protect themselves, they are sometimes called socialist or anti-democratic (Cuba and Venezuela come to mind). Imperialism has morphed into so many sneaky off shoots and it's condoned. poor countries have to be wise, educated and tough to keep what they have. otherwise it will be stolen.

[@lilaclizard4504]

As far as what she talks about though, that China involvement you talk of negates everything she said. I'd say China is MILES ahead of her on this one!

[@noviceprepper5397]

If what I said and believe is true, I agree with you, her assessment misses some key points. I'd have to research though to be sure I knew exactly what I was talking about. My opinions come from the articles I've read. China has well over a billion people. It is, sensibly, building relationships where it can. It needs land and other resources just to feed it's people so what it's doing makes sense. Also, we're still an imperialistic world, a predatory species. We prey on one another (unless it is socialized out of us or mitigated out), and we prey on the other animals around us (unless those animals hide from us or are our pets). We're an immature species, shortsighted, self-involved in a way dangerous for a steward species to be, and in many ways we are cruel. I'm sorry to say so, but it's just the truth. Our present evolution matches, in my opinion, a short term species. I hope we get it together to build ourselves into a longer term (million years at least) species, but presently, based on what I've read, seen, experienced, my interpretation of our actions, we're largely opportunistic predators and we're stubborn, especially when we perceive something is inconvenient to us. At our core we are a violent species that excels at reproducing. Many like our world the way it is, but it's not sustainable, even for the highest status of us. There are too many of us and we don't respect life, ourselves, our own rules/laws. If it weren't for climate change I'd hold out hope that, if we survived long enough, we might evolve into a longer term species but given who we are at present, and the heat coming our way, I don't see a way out for us. The heat will melt our icebergs, even in the winter, the water will absorb more heat, we're setting ourselves up for self-destruction as if we don't believe we can die. We can die. We will, unless we pull up. No model, in my opinion, will help us unless it factors in who we are, i.e., our predatory ways. The Presenter presents some interesting points but she doesn't take into account how the powerful manipulate situations to their advantage. As long as people allow each other, and their governments, to behave in a predatory way, none of us are safe. It is hard for ordinary people because the government has the deep pockets and they own the guns, but when it comes down to it we're a species. If we let our leaders get away with this, it's on us. We have to be willing to speak up for one another, to stand for one another, to call out wrong, to have zero tolerance for abuse, to die rather than to allow abuse to stand, or to be visited on the vulnerable and innocent (that includes creating a decent quality of life and death for our factory food animals). We have to be diligent, to pay attention and we're going to have to reorganize our entire world, and how we behave within it. That's going to be hugely challenging, but it's either that or death. Death is final. When we finally understand that, that we can and will die, I think future people will be a whole lot more serious than those of us currently alive. I wish we would get started now, but we're dragging our feet. Predatory loans have been a post-imperialistic tool for a long time, corruption, owning puppets, the things we've done and have been doing are not new, but we need to collectedly refuse to accept this sort of predation, for any of us, for any life. We have to change but currently we're really not ready. I'm ready. Others are ready. But our President isn't ready. His Team isn't ready. Many dictators aren't ready. Drug traffickers aren't ready. Tobacco manufacturers aren't ready. Many humans with strong predatory natures aren't ready. Climate change will make future people more ready but I don't know if we'll be able to change ourselves in time, once people have a different mindset. The Presenter doesn't take into account who we are as predators and how that shapes the opportunities available to poor people. She doesn't take into account how the powerful control and withhold information, and how lack of information harms the poor. If it was as doable as the Presenter makes it sound, Africans in various African countries would've already done it, pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. There are reasons many African countries have been unable to do so, and it has much to do, in my opinion, on the predation of the powerful on the powerless. How do you strengthen something you do not own? If Africans do not own key resources in their countries, the strength in their countries is not theirs. My opinion. Best regards.

[@lilaclizard4504]

ug! I got a reasonable way though, but the block to text is too unreadable. paragraphs please!!!!!! I would agree today's man is a predator, BUT when you look at humans as we were evolving, there was co-operation not just predatation. When you look at ancient cultures (stone age), there is definitely predatation, but not in the way we see it today, so I'm not convinced it's in our DNA. There's some interesting research into plants that shows that they actually co-operate much more than they compete, even across species, which is causing questioning in scientists as to how we view the entire history of our planet's development & if we've got it completely wrong. Using the plant information & looking at ancient cultures more objectively, are we necessarily a predator by nature? Or is that just our last resort go to response? Today's society has elevated psychopaths to positions where they control everything, but they're only a tiny minority of the population & if you removed them, our evolution may be completely different. China's system MAY be able to remove psychopaths domination (the great purge may have even reduced the number of people with genetics to develop those traits)

[@harikeshsingh8144]

India should work more furiously on improving agricultural infrastructure.

[@anushricharmer5469]

And population control too

[@asamihara5093]

It's not about food crisis, it's about coming control.

[@blahblah2779]

This aged very well. 2022 will be the genesis of a hungry world. I am excited to see millions of people starving to death. Because hungry people create change.

[@zaynumar0]

Haha you füçking madman

[@blingbling574]

Let's farm and live on Mars! We need to get along with the aliens though.

[@frank-hw6fy]

Wow who is 2022 here?

[@davemarx7856]

Everyone. It's all good. We can relax. Breatharians have the answer... 😒 ؟

[@harshitpanchal]

european colonization (mostly british) started all that problems

[@allisonsmith1041]

You need 25 kg of food to produce 1 kg of beef. 75% of all food being produced right now goes to live stock. We could already feed 10 billion people right now, if people in the western world wouldn't eat so much meat.

[@Dysputant]

Welp. We can let 3th world eat some bugs. 99% pure proteins. West will stay on beef.

[@xaro9982]

umm well yes we would be able to feed everyone RIGHT NOW, but if we don't use that food back towards the livestock, which make up a large portion of our food supply, won't that make it harder to have a stable food supply if we don't raise the animals with food for food?

[@jefsiv]

Allison Smith I'll never give up t-bones, porterhouses, Ribeyes, new York strips, filets, hamburgers, sirloin, roasts, beef stew. And let's not forget the best..... Veal Chops. Ya don't have to feed cows long for veal!

[@MajkaSrajka]

We will solve the problem when it will became the problem.

[@jarfuloflove7320]

Hey Allison, you're being so generous with farmers' money... why don't you go buy a cattle ranch and convert it to less profitable farmland. Or do you prefer making others lose money?

[@izzzzzz6]

She forgot to take into account the fact that water is disappearing. The Aral sea (4th largest lake in the world just dried up due to over irrigation) Deep water wells are drying up. Rain is not coming due to deforestation. Try multiplying this disaster by 10 over the next 20 years!

[@jarfuloflove7320]

Reform agricultural industries in Africa? I thought Papa Mugabe was already doing that, to much success...

[@lilaclizard4504]

Actually China is doing it now - and with genuine success, obviously not in Mugabe's area, Africa's a dam big place you know!

[@jarfuloflove7320]

Yep, foreign reform is exactly what Africa needs.

[@afterthedrjay]

a majority of any starvation will be in the countries that are reproducing rapidly,so they need to pay special attention to more economic food production over the long run. It's not like all the poor people being born are going to magically appear in other countries.(Some are but not in the numbers that would save them from starving.)

[@xing-minglin5785]

She said weight is a simplified measurement, so is calorie. we don't actually consume such amount of grains. Lots of China importing grains are used to build a robust global agriculture economy system.

[@Amytheproject]

Maybe this is the earth cleaning house

[@grizzlymanverneteil4443]

Maybe my balllllllz

[@kevinmathewson4272]

the earth is a rock

[@EvolvedApe]

We waste a ridiculous amount of food. We also use most of our corn to feed cattle. Perhaps if we all wasted less and ate less beef, we could increase food reserves by 30%.I'll also add that calories are irrelevant. It's the quality of food that's important. IF THE POPULATION IS GETTING BAD CALORIES, THEY HAVE A MASSIVE INCREASE IN HEALTHCARE COSTS. If the get their energy from good food, they are healthier and are a minimal burden on the system.

[@WilliamRAguilar]

The solution is easy, just build up use verticality multiple levels like a car garage

[@babybeel8787]

William Aguilar It's not by increasing supply that you will satisfy demand.

[@WilliamRAguilar]

Baby Beel Yes it is. What did you get taught at the communist school of mass genocide? If you believe increase in supply doesn't fix demand (WHICH IT FUCKING DOES) then you must believe in decreasing Demand which means population control and mass murder in which case you should be executed.

[@JorgeRodriguez-tc6py]

william come down, he just said something that can be interpret many diferent ways, no need to get defensive, just to explain, for example if you build more roads you will think the trafic will get better, but there is prove that it doesnt, becouse more people will get cars, and everything will be basicaly the same; when it comes to food, ill guess if you just "make more food" the people who has the money to buy it will do it (maybe waste more) but the poorest people will still starve, you cant just increase deman if noone can aford to buy it; is not that simple; goverments need to make laws, in order to make each country self suficient, which is not simple at all. And again plz dont get defensive, the comment section can be use to discuss smart ideas, or just throwing shiet to each other, i hope you choose the first one. P.S: sorry for the mistakes at writting, as you can guess im not a english speaker.

[@WilliamRAguilar]

Jorge Rodríguez increase in supply beyond the need decreases the price. The only bad thing is having more demand than supply possible. Food has an infinate supply possible and the problem with the demand is the supply is not provided intellegntly in certain areas like middle east even though we have the tech to dome it to protect from the environment (which would also work in space) and we are not using verticality which i have seen work in biological agriculture studies.

[@JorgeRodriguez-tc6py]

agreed! now one of the issues as u said, is the distribution, witch is base on cost, who can pay for it and who cannot, for example my country export a lot of food, but anemia is a huge problem, becouse people cant actually aford the food we export; now i get that there is an extra supply the cost will decrease, but no private entity will put money to make extra food so it gets cheaper, goverment will have to do it (i hope you agree with me on this part); now if goverment have to do it, then i think we are fucked, thats where the impass start, im just rumbling now; anyway after you explain your though i agree with you, the solution you propouse is good, the issue now is how, or who will take on it; do you have a proposition for that? private sector? each country? non profits? each person show have a closet size "garden" or divise that alows them to grow at least some food? also water will be the next issue.

[@nadineblack8102]

Well I'm already feeling the food shortage trying to decipher between GMO's ,high pesticides and radiated foods, .and trying to find something without High fructose Corn syrup , GMO soy or GMO Conola oil in it .Good Luck

[@Dionyzos]

No it's most probably not. We already have solutions for this, why not talk about them instead of spreading a negative message?

[@KonniWynn]

"We have the solution, we just have to act on it. Thank you"- the talk

[@marchelamileniarindany3378]

Dionyzos i think the problem hasn't already dealed as there r so many hungers in world

[@pelvis_assley]

I am rather confident that solution will be yield increase via massive micronutrient fertilizer application. A mix of manganese, zinc, copper and iron would get you an extra ton from a hectar and it will make a difference in bigger scale

[@ZiemniakPospolity]

This topic again... There was a guy called Thomas Malthus saying we won't be able to produce enough food in the nearest future... 200 years ago! The thing he forgot was TECHNOLOGY. It's sad that so much later, with internet and stuff, there are still people thinking it will happen and are trying to convince the others. My favorite part is where she says that China was able to feed their people 40 years ago (as they had already one billion of people). Without any big technology, having one of the biggest population density in the world. India with even more density is able to feed their people. So if they can do it, every country can do it. When there will be more demand, supply will appear. I believe that technology and capitalism will solve this "problem" because I believe that people love making money.