A Good Toki Pona Video

[@LingoLizard]

Toki Pona resources links: tokipona.org/ lipu-sona.comforttiger.space mun.la/sona/ jansa-tp.github.io/tpcheatsheet/Toki%20Pona%20Cheat%20Sheet%20v2.pdf lipamanka.gay/essays/dictionary github.com/kilipan/nasin-toki

[@MarcyRavenManji]

I like the idea of toki pona being anti-"mindless memorization." You have to understand the concepts you're talking about down to their basics.

[@pOpsi_mOn]

There's a well-known phrase in toki pona that says this as well "mi ken ala toki pona e ijo la mi sona ala e ijo", meaning "if I can't say a thing in Toki Pona, then I don't know the thing"

[@eboone]

@pOpsi_mOn toki li sona a

[@thelollykitty]

8:52 "and even some obscure ones like Mandarin Chinese and English"

[@jan_Eten]

mu

[@tayntedmemories]

a a a 😆😆

[@T.h.e.T.i.n.o]

Eyyyyyyyyyyyy tino here :3

[@jan_Eten]

@ who are you

[@duckdeity9450]

@@T.h.e.T.i.n.owho

[@rextanglr4056]

I like this video. It's detailed but not longwinded, the information is accurate, and it also showcases some Toki Pona culture! Not to mention the fact that it DOESN'T mislabel Toki Pona as an interlang! (cough cough Mitch cough cough Language Simp cough cough) I would've hoped for a Toki Pona showcase video that critiques it a bit (plenty claim that it'sthe easiest language. trust me, it's not.), but this video in particular isn't really focused on opinions, so I'll let it slide. Overall, this video showcasing Toki Pona is better than Langfocus's, but not as good as… making it the best video showcasing Toki Pona so far. Thank you for reading this comment, I'm jan Wetanka, and in the next episode, I'll be reviewing nothing.

[@anowarjibbali]

It's orders of magnitude above HAI's video.

[@Icy-ll5ie]

​@anowarjibbali Who is hai?

[@killianobrien2007]

Where does oats Jenkins video fall

[@DwellOnForever]

@Icy-ll5ie Half As Interesting

[@rextanglr4056]

@killianobrien2007 4th place, between RobWords' and jan Misali's

[@professorariel]

It got a sign language? Now you have my attention

[@FieldLing639]

Wonder if anyone’s made a deafblind accessible tactile version of it

[@janlakuse5199]

luka pona signer here. i feel like i dont know enough about protactile to really embark on this yet. i would eventually like to do this in the next decade. more Deaf involvement and overall capacity building is also likely needed before we reach this point

[@IamSamys]

Not yet. It hasn't come up much either (no one seems to work on a tactile sign language, while there've been 2 or 3 manual sign systems for toki pona (like what "signed exact english" is to english) before luka pona (a kind of separate sign language _for_ the toki pona _community_ ) so I don't think there'll be one for a while)

[@janlakuse5199]

@@IamSamys lon la mi en jan tepo li alasa luka pona lon lukin ala lon tenpo li ken ala. mi wawa ala a.

[@IamSamys]

@@janlakuse5199 aaaa alasa musi!

[@lipamanka]

This is my favorite review of toki pona by a non-speaker so far. thank you for talking to community members, akesi o!

[@This.one.1]

lipamanka o!!!!!!!!!

[@lipamanka]

@@This.one.1 sina o!!!!!

[@kasilija]

mi sama. jan mute li toki ala tawa jan pi toki pona. taso ona li tawa lipu Wesi anu lipu Siko anu ante la, ona li ken jo e sona mute a!! jan ale li wile pana e ona!

[@Brib8888]

toki a! mi lon ma pi kama sona! mi en sina li toki lon tenpo weka

[@NebbyTheProtogen]

a senpaje Lipamanka li lukin sona e mi ale!!!!!

[@kasilija]

thank you so much for actually putting your research into this! i feel like youtube videos on toki pona become a sore spot due to them often having very little effort put into them, and this is such a breath of fresh air. pona mute tawa sina a!

[@swedneck]

"toki pona has 120 words" (9 minutes of filler later) "thank you for watching, remember to lycansubscribe"

[@kasilija]

@swedneck ni a 😭

[@leantes1828]

You convinced me of learning it, sounds really fun

[@kanadeba]

amazing video, as always! thank you for putting in the work to make an accurate and informative resource; I'm happy to have played a small part!

[@gabrielmaximianobielkael3115]

Toki pona shows really well why there aren't more complex or less complex languages, the complexity of each language is just concentraded in diferent places. German, for example, has a complex grammar, but you don't need much context when speaking it. Toki pona in the other hand has a simple grammar, but needs much more context and many more words to express the same meaning

[@obonyxiam]

sitelen tawa ni li pona tawa mi -kijetesantakalu

[@sashasmirnov6530]

kijetesantakalu a!

[@snowbleden]

lon

[@The_TinesJathian]

kijetesantakalu o sina pona tawa mi

[@obonyxiam]

@The_TinesJathian pona tawa sina! :D

[@DylanMatthewTurner]

2:42 That's really important bc we humans love to do that. If you imagine it as a natural language, I'd suspect you'd see Toki Pona slowly gain more and more words as compounds and idoms standardize for the sake of making communication easier. To keep Toki Pona as it is, they NEED to say dont standardize

[@gargamel3478]

In Polish "Jan" means "John", and it seems very fun to me.

[@carmi7042]

I find quite poetic that the most translated male name in the world means "person" in Toki Pona

[@swedneck]

What makes this even funnier is the "John Darksoul" meme, calling nameless protagonists John

[@ruimiguelteixeirasilva]

I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT HE POSTED IT LITERALLY 1 HOUR AFTER I COULDN'T SEE THIS VIDEO 😭

[@Incognito-rb4tz]

new conlang critic episode just dropped

[@luxtayii3473]

pona!

[@mustafah6150]

pona pona! 😊

[@Radar_of_the_Stars]

I love toki pona, so much that I made the sitalen pona for "jan kule" (which is how we said queer before tonsi was coined) into my main profile picture on every social media

[@T.h.e.T.i.n.o]

Toki Pona: Spoken Chinese Characters Hear me Out. Diffrend Glyphs/Words meen alot alot of Diffrend Things on their own, but narrow themself down when put against Eachother

[@jawslightning]

mi pilin sama a! mi akesi kin. :}

[@teradex124]

10:06 did not expect to get jumpscared by myself appearing there lmao sitelen tawa ni li pona mute!

[@qondonyon]

akesi Linko :33

[@siyacer]

thanks

[@tomo-tawa-linja]

no “pakola” we take those

[@Zirtip]

10:06 No way I now made it into both this channel and the StealthySceptile channel (I am jan Jatosa at the very bottom of the screen)

[@mallow4715]

I like how you mentioned that you can use any noun as your head noun ken la mi suwi Malo taso tenpo mute la mi jan Malo (Finnish) ni li musi tawa mi: sina lili e toki Inli. toki Kini la toki Inli li lili :3

[@HistoryPresented]

no offense but as a native Dutch speaker the way you said hagedis made me bust out laughing. I know our language sounds like someone choking but it`s not THAT bad

[@dutchpropaganda558]

Literally exactly how they say "hagedis" in Rotterdam. /s

[@leeuwevdh]

Yeah I really would’ve expected better

[@kijeenki]

thanks for not being evil

[@KiwiWasGone]

holy shit I'm fricking early

[@Bancanana]

Congrats

[@lipamanka]

okay well I watched in yesterday so

[@IRLPinkiePie]

sitelen tawa sona ni li pona mute! mi o sona sina li pana pona, li pali pona~ - soweli Pinki

[@topazbutterfly1853]

Translating a whole Quran sequence as “mu” is crazy 🤣🤣

[@Aliphwhy]

Is "sama" in toki pona borrowed from malay ?

[@lipamanka]

oddly enough, no! It's from finnish, germanic languages, and esperanto. which is very interesting to me because sonja lang speaks malay nowadays.

[@Aliphwhy]

@lipamanka huh, don't know that Sonja Lang can speak malay? Though, idk if the Malay word "sama" is a borrowed word from Sanskrit or just a random false twin thing due to "sama" and "same" has the same meaning

[@syro33]

​@@Aliphwhy It seems to be debated whether it comes from sanskrit or is a native malayo-polynesian word. If it is from sanskrit, then i believe it is a very distant cognate with the germanic and esperanto word, though.

[@lipamanka]

@ sonja lang learned it I think after she made toki pona. she's in malaysia and singapore for like three months a year with her husband.

[@opalkarli]

Wait but what about city and country names 😭

[@cubic_regent]

seeing the thumbnail at first glance i thought this was Javanese

[@Krl-j5y]

11:04 it's 480000 not 48000

[@kirikourobloxgaming8841]

តូគីប៉ូណា

[@sashasmirnov6530]

sitelen tawa ni li pona

[@tayntedmemories]

sitelen tawa pi toki pona ni li pona mute mute tawa mi! sina pana pona e sona pona pi toki pona la jan li ken sona e sona pi toki pona! lon tenpo suno tu la mi alasa sona e toki pona a a a ... toki pona mi li pona ala :(

[@kasilija]

@@tayntedmemories toki pona sina li pona a! tenpo suno tu taso a anu seme?! ike wan li ni: "sitelen tawa pi toki pona ni" o "sitelen tawa ni pi toki pona". ona li jo e kon ante, sona mi la sina wile toki e toki nanpa tu

[@tony58300]

hooooly shieeeet hype!

[@suomeaboo]

sitelen tawa ni li pona nanpa wan ! ni li pana e sona pona pi toki pona tawa jan mute. jan pona mi li wile sona e toki pona la mi ken pana e sitelen tawa ni tawa ona. o pona !

[@BlackMonke-]

toki pona li pona suli

[@KevinKurzsartdisplay]

Toki pona is jaki, it's jaki!

[@T.h.e.T.i.n.o]

Toki Pona should be the Language of Politics for the Simple reason of no Concept being Obscured

[@Brib8888]

I think it'd be more accurate to say that every concept is obscured until you build context

[@zxkver]

mu

[@niklasl3880]

"easy to learn"...I find it incredibly hard, because 90% of the words aren't making any sense to me, and the remaining ones I have to use tricks to memorize. 😐

[@This.one.1]

mi jan pi toki pona

[@pinecubes]

pona a! mi toki tawa waso lon toki pona. la ona li ken ala sona e toki mi

[@kasilija]

@@pinecubes waso li sona e toki seme?

[@modmaker7617]

Esperantists must be angry at Tokiponists

[@izenkixiron5173]

Actually, no. Esperantists heavily promoted it in Esperanto congresses, and a substantial number of Tokiponists also speak Esperanto.

[@10idiomax]

we are not, we love it !🥰

[@kekevids134]

most are not, except ONE VERY INFAMOUS ESPERANTIST

[@lipamanka]

why? what would drive that?

[@syro33]

that would be strange with how much overlap the two communities have, haha! People who learn one conlang are more likely to learn another, i suppose.

[@mertatakan7591]

12:27 /n/

[@ghoom]

4:32 There are no native Arabic speakers. I'm a Moroccan and I speak a descendent of Arabic that has "p" in everyday words.

[@lipamanka]

a native speaker of north levantine arabic may struggle as described in the video, because that dialect of arabic doesn't have p.

[@ghoom]

@@lipamanka I know. He's implying all Arabic languages lack "p".

[@lipamanka]

​@@ghoom fair enough! though I'ms ure lingolizard knows that some dialects of arabic have a p in them

[@alyaly2355]

You speak Moroccan Arabic?

[@Syria_Free_Palestine_will_too]

Arabic descendants are still Arabic. If you want to refer to FusHa, which barely has native speakers, you would say Standard Arabic. People agreed to consider them dialects, unlike how Hindustani descendants are considered languages, not dialects, even if they might be more mutually intelligible than some Arabic dialects. So considering Arabic dialects not Arabic is like considering Modern English not English because it's so much different than Old English.

[@pyglik2296]

mi lukin e sitelen tawa pi toki pona la, mi wile pana e toki mi. toki pona li pona li musi tawa mi tan ni: mi ken kama sone e toki ale ona. ni la, tenpo ala la mi lukin e nimi pi sona mi ala. (ante la, jan li kepeken e nimisin.) toki ante la, sina lukin e nimi sin la, sina alasa e ona lon lipu, li wile kama sona e ona. toki pona la, mi ken sona ala e toki sina, taso mi sona e nimi sina ale, li ken pilin e kon ona! ijo ante la, sina akesi toki anu akesi Linkolisa?

[@Kuzamori]

mu!

[@This.one.1]

sina soweli ala soweli? soweli li mu a!

[@CelestinWIDMER]

mu!

[@This.one.1]

@CelestinWIDMER mi jan la mi mu

[@Kuzamori]

@ mi jan

[@This.one.1]

@ mi ian

[@cyborggaming2987]

You should do a full video about ǃxóõ

[@jantemili]

mu a

[@reizayin]

sucks how bad the community is

[@janana5917]

Love the vid, but please work on your dutch pronounciation

[@tlacamazatl]

"by most metrics" "for the most part" "almost every aspect" "the general gist" A lot of hedging. Any way. Have fun!

[@benedictgyimah2673]

wawa mute

[@nathancomixproductions466]

Well, Toki Pona may be a "language of good", but Esperanto sure isn't. Ps.: Esperanto is forbidden Pps.: Don't ask why

[@rextanglr4056]

Kiam oni petas ke vi ne rajtas demandi kial, ĉiam signifas ke tiu homo kaŝas ion en la menso. jan li toki e ni: "o toki ala e tan seme" la tenpo ale la jan ni li len e ijo lon lawa pi jan ni.

[@kitsin326]

Toki pona is my least favourite conlang :/

[@ludomian]

it's such a serious nooblang xd

[@lipamanka]

what's a nooblang?