A Great British Failure! The Austin 3-Litre. But, is it rubbish?

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@richdelgado3405
@richdelgado3405 4 жыл бұрын
I think this is one of those designs that, when first released, may not have been particularly attractive, but over time has become much more appreciated. Personally, I think the car is gorgeous.
@kelvinbrunton1606
@kelvinbrunton1606 4 жыл бұрын
Think you hit the nail on the head with your comment. Church bro
@kowskyboy
@kowskyboy 4 жыл бұрын
My Dad had a brand new white one in 1969 (in the UK). I was 17 and just passed my test (1st time though) and drove a ratty old Ford van. I had also just fell in love for the first time and invited said girl to spend Christmas day with me and my parents. She lived 20 miles away and Dad said "you are not picking her up in your van, so take my car", I was gobsmacked to say the least. Anyway, poor Lynn (girlfriend now wife) was expecting me in said van when I rocked up to to her house in what she thought was a stretched Limo. Boy did that impress her, and that, together with my limited guitar playing skills and long hair,....well, lets just say "the deal was sealed!". Always thought it was an underestimated car. Thank you so much Dad & RIP (he passed away in 1978 at age 58). PS: Still together after 51 very happy years and love her as much today as the day I met her. #lockdownmemories
@mrpalm54
@mrpalm54 4 жыл бұрын
Great memories Andrew! Nice to think your Dad's car played a role in you both together! Regards John.
@gerardhand1954
@gerardhand1954 4 жыл бұрын
I recall having a conversation in the sixtees with a 3 ltr owner. It was a new car then and the owner replaced his Rolls with this car. Far from being dissapointed with it, he raved about it and said it was better than the Roller. Very luxurious by his account.
@glennbeadshaw727
@glennbeadshaw727 2 жыл бұрын
Yep it's the Roxy roller
@chrisbradley1192
@chrisbradley1192 4 жыл бұрын
When these first hit the road my 10 year old eyes thought they looked quite nice. I still don't think they're ugly.
@CortinasAndClassics
@CortinasAndClassics 4 жыл бұрын
I may be one of the few but I like this car.
@louisavevers9709
@louisavevers9709 4 жыл бұрын
I like it too!
@mrfahrenheit3867
@mrfahrenheit3867 4 жыл бұрын
I would
@zugbug1986
@zugbug1986 4 жыл бұрын
I like it so motion carried.
@brentfairlie9159
@brentfairlie9159 4 жыл бұрын
I adore them.
@grayfool
@grayfool 4 жыл бұрын
No, you're not alone, I like 'em too.
@anyscaleclassics6880
@anyscaleclassics6880 4 жыл бұрын
My god! How many 3 litres has this man got? Look like he's got more than the whole of the UK! That suspension is probably more suited to the 3 litre than any other car. I love 'em.
@numbereightyseven
@numbereightyseven 3 жыл бұрын
There's 25 of these still registered in NZ.
@iseeolly9959
@iseeolly9959 4 жыл бұрын
With regard the looks, if it had an Italian badge on it then people would still rave about it.
@alessandrot4255
@alessandrot4255 4 жыл бұрын
I’m italian and I love the Austin 3 litres
@raychambers3646
@raychambers3646 4 жыл бұрын
@@alessandrot4255 I like Italian food and this car!
@984francis
@984francis 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, interesting point.
@iseeolly9959
@iseeolly9959 4 жыл бұрын
@@984francis Cheers mate, I think the front end looks really great, quite like early Ferrari and Lamborghini.....the back end looks rather Austin/ Morris. As Ian pointed out, the inlet manifold is awful, the two center cylinders will receive a good air/fuel mixtutre and the end cylinders just don't get a good charge of fuel. It really needed 3 carbs and suitable manifold to give a similar length to each cylinder.
@timhancock6626
@timhancock6626 4 жыл бұрын
Oh no they wouldn't. I was 15 when this came out and I had my head in my hands then and I see nothing to change my view then that they had launched a frankenstein.
@saxon-mt5by
@saxon-mt5by 4 жыл бұрын
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - I have always thought the 3-litre was the best looking Austin of the Issigonis era. When they came out my boss replaced his Rover P5B with a 3-litre, and claimed the Austin was a much better car. Indeed, he liked the car so much that when they were discontinued he bought, not one but, two to tide him over 'til his retirement!
@RoverenderAlligator
@RoverenderAlligator 4 жыл бұрын
I have had my P5B for thirty five years & love her. However l can readily appreciate that the Austin will have a far superior ride. You can see her wafting against the horizon in the video. It looks sublime. I like the Austin 3 litre very much.
@saxon-mt5by
@saxon-mt5by 4 жыл бұрын
@Delta Fox He didn't, but from my experiences riding in the two cars, my memory would suggest the Austin was a much more 'modern' car, with a light airy feel to the cabin as well as that much better ride; there was much more space inside the car and it generally gave a much more refined experience. The Rover felt old and dated in comparison.
@darrenwilson8042
@darrenwilson8042 3 жыл бұрын
as the former owner of a 1971 Morris 1800 can I say it didn't horrify me. Great car, drove well and by god on one snowy camping trip in the Yorkshire Dales it made a welcome refuge for warm, dry and comfortable sleeping
@chrisdale6081
@chrisdale6081 3 жыл бұрын
my Dad had four land crabs. Three 1800's and an ex Police 2200. His third one was a bit of a legend. He used it as a recovery vehicle for a National Breakdown agent, so it spent half of its life towing a trailer with another car on it. It did nearly 400k miles on just two engines and three clutches - what a car!
@T16MGJ
@T16MGJ Жыл бұрын
The Austin 2200 Princess courtesy car I had when my company car Ambassador was being serviced was a delight to drive. It did not get a good write up at all in the Motoring press at the time. I believed what they wrote until actual hands on experience proved they were wrong. Lesson learned forty years ago and ever since then, I have not trusted a single word these so called professional Clarkson wannabees have written ever since. Use your own experience and judgement about these and many other things. It is far more reliable.
@peteramberley9952
@peteramberley9952 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful car. The back end reminded me of a bentley
@mrfahrenheit3867
@mrfahrenheit3867 4 жыл бұрын
yes, and the lights are kind of a Morris version of the Bentley S3 Continental " Chinese Eye" but they with out a high grill and bonnet they look a bit odd imo, with stacked headlights it would have it looking quite menacing.
@peteramberley9952
@peteramberley9952 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrfahrenheit3867 the headlights look humber esq
@raymondo162
@raymondo162 4 жыл бұрын
@@peteramberley9952 usa checker cab................ ??
@peteramberley9952
@peteramberley9952 4 жыл бұрын
@@raymondo162 yes had that round 55 chevy era about it
@frothe42
@frothe42 4 жыл бұрын
@@raymondo162 I agree, to a point. British parking lights.
@simonbaldry9233
@simonbaldry9233 4 жыл бұрын
I once asked my father if money was no object what car would he buy? “Austin 3 litre” he replied, but he also loved his Maxi. That was about 1979.
@jeffhughes1318
@jeffhughes1318 4 жыл бұрын
My first car was a Maxi in that horrible light brown. I loved it.
@bryansmith1920
@bryansmith1920 4 жыл бұрын
My Dad had the early Maxi 1500 before I passed my Driving test in 1971 and soon afterwards I can't remember when they bought out the 1750 Mk 2
@paulstandeven8572
@paulstandeven8572 4 жыл бұрын
@James 107 Am I right that your dad's car had a hatchback and was called a Nomad?
@diogenesegarden5152
@diogenesegarden5152 4 жыл бұрын
I bought my old man’s Austin Maxi 1500 off him as my first car. Flamenco orange, I thought it was great, built like a tank!
@davidfiddling1467
@davidfiddling1467 4 жыл бұрын
my dad had 4 maxis great for towing 70s caravan poor mans Saab 😀😀
@meirionevans5137
@meirionevans5137 4 жыл бұрын
In the 1980's, a bunch of shearers were over fron nz, they had an 1800 landcrab. They loved it, about 8 of them virtually lived in it, similar colour so it was called The Grape. It towed a large platform trailer to shear on and carried all their gear. Happy days, I beat a couple of them arm wrestling in the pub but they still bought me a beer! Thanks for knees alert btw.
@davidlondon2810
@davidlondon2810 4 жыл бұрын
My parents had one when I was growing up in the early 1970s. It had the smoothest ride I have ever known in any car and the engine was almost silent. It had nice upholstery and was incredibly comfortable. The tail is beautiful!
@brianstevenson9967
@brianstevenson9967 4 жыл бұрын
I worked for a British Leyland dealership back in the 70's and this was a car that was extremely underated. If I could get a good condition one now I would have it in a heartbeat. it was based on the best cars that were produced by BL in the 70's. The 1800, 2200, and we could also include the Maxi. In my experience of working on these vehicles they were for the most part well designed. Unfortunately the other cars produced by BL were utter crap. At the time back then I owned a Maxi then a 2200, in their day I would not have changed them for the more stylish cars of the day, these cars were ultra practical and the internal room could not be matched by other cars in their class.
@thatcheapguy525
@thatcheapguy525 Жыл бұрын
the Maxi was a phenomenon. practicality and efficiency in one. a British answer to the French.
@robertp.wainman4094
@robertp.wainman4094 4 жыл бұрын
I think the whole series - 1100's, maxi's, 1800's, and this had inspired design, creating so much interior space. Great ride too.
@sutherlandA1
@sutherlandA1 4 жыл бұрын
Because of the centre driveline hump, the 3 litre had less room inside than the 1800
@stevedickson5853
@stevedickson5853 4 жыл бұрын
If I could buy any big British classic car right now, it would definitely be an Austin 3 litre, I love every inch of its styling, and gotta love those huge thick chromed bumpers 👍
@barryrudge1576
@barryrudge1576 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the late 1960's I was aware of British Leyland having problems in shifting these large Austin 3 litres cars. They had enormous amounts of room and at the time the joke was you could hold a dance in the rear compartment because the legroom was enormous. I was a Police officer at the time in Lancashire H.Q Traffic Dept. When they purchased a number of these cars heavily discounted to be used as senior officer chuafer driven staff cars. They never really caught on with the public and I believe after a couple of years in production B.L. pulled the plug and stopped production. hence the rarity today.
@tenacious3911
@tenacious3911 4 жыл бұрын
I think the 3-Litre was a noble effort, but a few modernisations and updates to the big Farinas would probably have been a better option.
@johnwattdotca
@johnwattdotca 4 жыл бұрын
My Scottish grandfather sold his Austin to my father, his first car. My father and mother with my two brothers, we always had a great time, going for picnics around the Niagara Peninsula. It was two-tone gray, really nice. Seeing the remains of British fortifications and the cannons that still aim at the United States, makes it good.
@kerryagnew2981
@kerryagnew2981 4 жыл бұрын
The front end definitely has something of the Edsel about it with the high mounted quad lamps. Not an ugly thing by any stretch though. I suspect that if we weren't so familiar with the Landcrab centre section we may look at it in a different light altogether.
@henryrodgers7386
@henryrodgers7386 4 жыл бұрын
I think it kind of looks like a baby Checker Manhattan. Especially the grill. But I totally agree about the headlights. I'm not familiar with the "Landcrab" (American), so I think it looks quite nice. Unfortunately, it's easier to find a Soviet car than an old British one here in the US.
@bryanwheeler1608
@bryanwheeler1608 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Nissan Cedric! :-)
@michaelkilanin6424
@michaelkilanin6424 2 жыл бұрын
I think the front on it looks most like a fiat 1500 crusader..and that's all good!
@denishoulan1491
@denishoulan1491 4 жыл бұрын
The Leyland garage that I served my apprenticeship at used to see a few of these in the mid seventies. The biggest customer was an undertakers that had a hearse and two cars. Did loads of work on the Austin 3 litre in my time.
@lordred4116
@lordred4116 4 жыл бұрын
When I was an apprentice many years ago, I worked with a guy who had one of these. Absolutely huge inside and super comfortable.
@BMW7series251
@BMW7series251 4 жыл бұрын
Had a white one of these in the late 70'. The rarer manual version. Very thirsty but great torque. Pulled like a train!Vast inside, enough for us two, three kids and camping gear! Nice 8 track stereo. The rust maggot got it in end!!Thanks for posting.
@RecordCouncil
@RecordCouncil 4 жыл бұрын
Probably on the outside but I think it's a pretty smart looking car. I am glad they went with the double round lights rather than the lozenge style as originally planned.
@johnfranklin3001
@johnfranklin3001 4 жыл бұрын
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. To me it looks elegant and very stylish indeed. The vinyl seats have survived in better condition than leather seats would have done. I even like the 'cheap' looking window winders and speedometer; they give the car an understated air, which I find most appealing. No need to show off or try too hard to impress. Very British and very lovely indeed I would say.
@williamross2579
@williamross2579 4 жыл бұрын
I HAVE WAITED FOR THIS ONE IAN! YOU DID NOT DISAPPOINT!!! much love for this old beast!
@HistoryNeedsYou
@HistoryNeedsYou 4 жыл бұрын
My 1970s childhood featured the skin on my legs being burned away by the vinyl seats in a Landcrab. The summer of 76 was particularly painful. Despite the pain, we have fond memories of our Landcrabs so it’s fun to see so many common components visible in the 3 litre.
@b.2221
@b.2221 4 жыл бұрын
The back end of a Bentley, and the front looks like a Humber, and if they had just done a more upmarket quality interior which it deserves. Can't get over the size of that steering wheel it's massive. You were spot on about the Wolsely version of the land crab it was a beautiful version of the 1800 line. Thank you very much for another great video Sir 👍 Tam.
@philhealey449
@philhealey449 4 жыл бұрын
Significantly pre-dating the Skoda Roomster then, which is surely now the ultimate front of one car and the rear of another!
@Isochest
@Isochest 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting you mentioned the front. I always thought of this car as introduced to compete with the Humber Super Snipe.
@2Worlds_and_InBetween
@2Worlds_and_InBetween 4 жыл бұрын
the old man had a Wolsey one, I can remember laying down on the back seat and hearing him moan that he had spent 74p on petrol.
@marknelson5929
@marknelson5929 4 жыл бұрын
Downton did indeed do some wonderful things with the agricultural 3-Litre in the Austin and MGC. It was slightly detuned in the 3-Litre saloon to my understanding (compared to the MGC) but nevertheless when they got their hands on it like the MGC Downton breathed new life into both cars. I was lent an Austin 3-Litre whilst living in UK in the 90s and loved the big old barge, the comfort was second to none etc. I loved it and everyone who rode in it, though its thirst for petrol was a bit on the high side! Later I owned an Downton tuned manual MGC GT for a mere few weeks, but what a beast...! Downton had the knack for ringing the best out of some pretty pedestrian engines of the time.
@mrpalm54
@mrpalm54 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to instill some of that Downton genius into one of our 3 Litres one day!
@and3583
@and3583 4 жыл бұрын
Great :) thanks! The station commander at RAF Valley had one of those as a staff car in the early 80s
@freemenofengland2880
@freemenofengland2880 2 жыл бұрын
The owner of the local toy shop used to own one in black when I was a small child. Apparently I was already a petrol head, knew what the car was and could identify it's similarity to the 1800 which my mother's best friend drove. I actually found it reasonably impressive for the time.
@stevehallam0850
@stevehallam0850 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating car, a great commentary on how the British car industry could have done much better but usually managed to screw up in stupid ways.
@theredbaron2988
@theredbaron2988 4 жыл бұрын
My dad had one in the late 70’s , it was brilliant . He painted it white and used it for weddings. I’d love one.
@nickbrown6457
@nickbrown6457 3 жыл бұрын
We had one of these when I was a kid, it was huge, I loved it! But those sticky vinyl seats were a killer on bare legs on a hot sunny day, felt like second degree burns!
@owensteele1274
@owensteele1274 4 жыл бұрын
The brochure car reg VOP 436J is on an Austin Healey Sprite in green. New on September 1970, still on the road. Taxed until May 2020.
@Rjhs001
@Rjhs001 4 жыл бұрын
Back when I was a young whippersnapper, all my mates lusted after Italian supercars...I lusted after the Austin 3 litre. That's the kind of strange kid I was and I adore them still. Thanks Ian for a lovely little review of a Great British classic.
@mrpalm54
@mrpalm54 4 жыл бұрын
Well done Jack. I hope you wish comes true. austinthreelitre.co.uk
@kelvinbrunton1606
@kelvinbrunton1606 4 жыл бұрын
A very good video. I am from new Zealand and the first car I ever owned was a land crab I have seen these 3 liter land crab look alike very occasionally. Think the first one that I saw was in Christchurch new Zealand about 40 years ago. It was an army staff car painted green. Ever since I have had a curiosity about this car. It sort of a novelty value to me. Was good to learn so much from this very informative video. I thought the ride would be good as the land crab was pretty ugly and underpowered for New Zealand conditions with all the hill work that needs to be done here The land crab had a nice ride due to hydralastic suspension. Where the land crab had the advantage over the big Australian cars was in the cornering. The front wheel drive was much better at cornering on gravel roads than the more powerful Holdens and Falcons.
@sutherlandA1
@sutherlandA1 4 жыл бұрын
Those dreaded doors actually suit this car well, the rear overhang and longer bonnet are better proportioned
@moconnell663
@moconnell663 4 жыл бұрын
As an American who's never seen this car before (or those less luxurious vehicles from which it descends), I think it looks just fine. There is nothing flashy or distracting about the interior, or the exterior. It certainly seems luxurious in ride, and oriented toward the comfort of the driver and passengers.
@bobdobalina2931
@bobdobalina2931 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the 3 litre. The ride quality is superb. At the start of the 70s my uncle Alec was on the board of directors of Potterton Boilers and he had one as a company car. He took me out for a drive in it (I was six at the time) and it blew me away. I was only used to the Ford Anglia estate that my parents had and this was another world of motoring. Ever since then I have always wanted one but have never owned one and due to their scarcity I probably never will. A fantastic review, thank you.
@mrpalm54
@mrpalm54 4 жыл бұрын
Have a look at austinthreelitre.co.uk
@emmajacobs5575
@emmajacobs5575 4 жыл бұрын
It’s odd how attitudes change. When the 3 litre and the MGC (and MGBGT V8) were new, they were slated for not looking different enough from their lesser brethren, but so many modern cars have higher performance/luxury versions that are barely distinguishable. Ford already understood this well, though, with eye catching go faster stripes and ‘E’ or Ghia badges.
@WhosAGoodDogue
@WhosAGoodDogue 4 жыл бұрын
No-one mentioned the _gorgeous_ ''Blackberry'' paint colour on the main car! I think it's the best colour they came in. And I rather like the styling. All of it if I'm honest.
@mrpalm54
@mrpalm54 4 жыл бұрын
Many folk think the BlackBerry with Grey trim is one of the best combination. Quite the gentlemans express.
@kayerickatson4814
@kayerickatson4814 4 жыл бұрын
My dear father had two of these cars, both bought new, the first one in 1969, the second in 1971. The 1969 one was red, I think it was Damask Red. The second one was blue with a light blue roof. We all thought they were rather comfortable to ride in. Thank you for the video.
@mrpalm54
@mrpalm54 4 жыл бұрын
That's a damask red car behind the BlackBerry with grey trim car.
@TheSixfinger1
@TheSixfinger1 4 жыл бұрын
My dad owned one for a short while! I was gutted when he sold it! Gorgeous car! A real limousine! So comfy!
@SocksWithSandals
@SocksWithSandals 4 жыл бұрын
New Zealand is HubNut heaven.
@andrewgardner9615
@andrewgardner9615 4 жыл бұрын
My great uncle,in Salisbury, had one in mid 70s(beautiful car)-Really loved visiting on holidays driving down from the northwest in dads wolseley 2200 in burgundy colour 4 speed manual I think.(Plus he had a Honda goldwing on which he would take us for a ride(7/8 years old at the time)
@michaeltreadwell777
@michaeltreadwell777 4 жыл бұрын
I had an automatic, damask red one of these in 1976, when I was 21. I'd loved them since they were first launched. I knew a retired Home Office Engineer, and he tuned mine so that you could stand a 50p piece on it's edge on that aluminium radiator filler nut ! A beautiful car, but I was too young to really appreciate it. where is VOT 868H now ????
@BlueXonar
@BlueXonar 4 жыл бұрын
I don't mind how it looks, it isn't exactly beautiful but I wouldn't call it ugly. And as an overall package I quite like it! Shame about the lack of grunt, but it looks smooth and comfortable, and makes reasonably good noises.
@nzsaltflatsracer8054
@nzsaltflatsracer8054 4 жыл бұрын
If the current owner can look back into the history of that car, I believe he will find it was first owned by Allan Greenslade who was the owner/director of Armaghdown Motors in Palmy. I was an apprentice there at that time & the only one he allowed to work on his cars. Armaghdown was a BMC dealer on Princess st.
@mrpalm54
@mrpalm54 4 жыл бұрын
This one was sold new in Pukekohe to a grower who used it on Sundays and did 22,000 miles in 22 years. Cheers from John Vevers.
@jedw
@jedw 4 жыл бұрын
Great sound out the exhaust at the end! wasn't quite expecting that.
@BackToTheBlues
@BackToTheBlues 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the look of the 1800, my dad had one, and to us kids it felt like a limousine, but these, with their long bonnet and double headlights, always reminded me of a Humber Hawk!
@chrisreed6849
@chrisreed6849 4 жыл бұрын
I think for those us who love classic cars the name Austin holds a special place in our hearts, especially we old 'uns who grew up with them I am in my 70's now, as a penniless youth I owned various Austin models, they were just old bangers then, not the highly-priced classics they have now become For any Austin fan, I can highly recommend a book called 'Cape Cold to Cape Hot' by Richard Pape (around 1956). The author drove an Austin A90 Westminster from the most northern point in Norway, all the way down to Cape Town in South Africa (hence the title), according to Google maps is well over 10,000 miles A HubNutter decades ahead of his time! Always into cars, I read it when I was a schoolboy, never forgot it, with Austin nostalgia triggered by this video I have now ordered a copy, can't wait to read it again. So thanks Ian! Is it OK to put a link to a video you and your followers might enjoy? kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKbahYqrn8qAg5I
@NiteGambler
@NiteGambler 4 жыл бұрын
I got my 1st taste of british cars when my dad purchased an Austin Cambridge A60 1964. I just loved this car.Wooden dash, little shift lever that you had to pull out to change gears. This is the car i learned how to drive. Winters were funny watching my dad use the crank bar to start the car in sub weather temps while others needed a boost.Enough now moving on...... This particular model the 3 liter is quite a attention getter. I love the chrome front grill with the double head lights, something that lacks on todays vehicles. Most chrome today is plastic. The interior is very rich with the wood trim, like i have in my Phaeton (04) Being in Canada parts would be a waiting game, but this car is a driver. Happy Motoring
@sgtc4538
@sgtc4538 4 жыл бұрын
Super video - excellent as always - keep up the great work. Interesting comparison with contemporary XJ6. Hope you can manage to get back to UK before corona outbreak stops flights, or perhaps you're already back in Wales, we never know where you are now! Keep well. Best wishes.
@ChargerMagnum440
@ChargerMagnum440 4 жыл бұрын
I always liked the styling, very nice to be on board with you, in such a nice example
@taybankvideo
@taybankvideo 4 жыл бұрын
I like the looks. Mind you, I like landcrabs and Allegros too!
@philnewstead5388
@philnewstead5388 4 жыл бұрын
Grant Buttars can't agree with you about the land crab apart from the Wolesley 2200 version but I never saw a lot wrong with the Allegro especially the top of the range series two models with the chrome finishers round the window and on the boot lid and with a vinyl roof.
@andicog
@andicog 4 жыл бұрын
I see an Allegro every day, now it looks like such a nice clean uncomplicated design.
@nygelmiller5293
@nygelmiller5293 3 жыл бұрын
I will take my hat off to you sir, for also LIKING all the interesting, philosophical designs of the British Leyland group! There are quite a lot of snobs who never like any thing home grown, and are determined on principle to only like anything German or Japanese!
@nygelmiller5293
@nygelmiller5293 3 жыл бұрын
@@philnewstead5388 HOORAY! An Allegro fan, like me! I think the rounded shape makes it look "ownable" for ordinary people, so that's exactly what made it a target for snobs, who look down on anything "affordable" I think the Allegro looks cute!
@philnewstead5388
@philnewstead5388 3 жыл бұрын
Nygel Miller I do have a soft spot for the Allegro because it was my first car and for a few weeks in the late eighties I had use of a 1750 Équipe which was fun. You are right they do get a bad press from people who don't like them on principle rather than any first had knowledge. In retrospect I don't think in conceptual and engineering terms they were any better or worse than the Fords, Chryslers and Vauxhalls of the day and contrary to popular belief were no more or less prone to corrosion than their contemporaries. I have a soft spot for all seventies BL products and they were nowhere near as bad as people make out the problem was the woeful quality control and lack of development of new models so a customer would buy a car and then spend the first two months of ownership going back and forth to the dealer getting all the often minor but irritating faults sorted out. I've always considered styling a subjective thing but I think cars were much more individual back then you certainly wouldn't confuse an Allegro with an Escort, a Marina with a Cortina or a Granada with a Victor for example whereas today with drag figures and wind tunnel styling being all important I can't tell one from the other most of the time and there are very few cars that I really like the look of.
@RazSux
@RazSux 4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for this review, it's my favourite car! Hope you are having a great time in New Zealand.
@craigjames9155
@craigjames9155 4 жыл бұрын
I really quite like this car. It would be a very comfortable long distance cruiser. With a Rover V8 it would be a real beast. The front lights are very reminiscent of a Checker Cab.
@paulsutton5896
@paulsutton5896 2 жыл бұрын
The Rover engine would be a mistake. One of the car's great joys was its ultra-smooth straight six. The Rolls Royce four litre engine (actually being used by BMC at the time) was capable of very useful development. This (and the MGC) should have been its moment in the sun.
@selwynandrews9665
@selwynandrews9665 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, as an NZ resident and long-time British car fan, it's great to see cars like this still in such great condition. Wonder what you think of the, ahem, Austin Tasman and Kimberley...
@jimdieseldawg3435
@jimdieseldawg3435 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, memories of being scorched more than once by the brown Ambla seats in Dad's '77 Sandglow Maxi - I still choose jeans over shorts even when the mercury is in the top eighth of the capillary tube lol. I like the styling, there's a certain utilitarian elegance to it - it's a real shame that the Wolseley version with the 3528cc ex-Buick V8 didn't make it past the boardroom panel, I suspect it had the potential to be a Q-car. It'd be fascinating to back-to-back this with a Wolseley Six landcrab, another (perhaps deservedly) underrated '70s pseudo-luxobarge. Great work as usual, sir :-)
@neilwalsh4058
@neilwalsh4058 4 жыл бұрын
Lovely lovely car, smooth, quiet and seems to ride and handle very well. Really can't see why people think they are ugly? Front end reminds me of same period big Lancias and the rear is elegant. Far better looking and nicer proportions than the big ungainly lumps that Peugeot were knocking out at that time and that now are sought after. The only downfall of the Austin 3 litre was BMC's obsession with parts bin raiding. As you said the strip speedo, door handles and window winders wouldn't have looked out of place in a base model 1100. I'd love to own one. ❤️👍
@billsmith305
@billsmith305 4 жыл бұрын
multi bearing crankshafts where to strengthen the engine and stop them "throwing" con rods and knocking,trust me I worked on Fords, and Austin
@stevanez5108
@stevanez5108 4 жыл бұрын
Owned one for three years ,father in law gave it to me. Beautiful car, power, comfort and reliable too. Only sold it when I couldn't get an exhaust to get it through the MOT.
@frothe42
@frothe42 4 жыл бұрын
The styling grows on one, I particularly like it. Then again, I'm American, and like unusual vehicles. I wonder if they did put the Rover V8 in the engine compartment instead would have improved sales? Sad, we will never know. I'm also curious as to wonder why British vehicles never offered Air conditioning? If sold in very warm climates, it would have made their models more bearable to live with. As fir the Borg-Warner automatic, I believe they were always a lazy transmission. AMC used them until about 1972 when they switch to Chrysler Torque Flite, which was a much better, more responsive transmission than the Borg-Warner. I do like this; then again, I like quirky, unusual vehicles.
@michaeljohncooper
@michaeljohncooper 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. A friends parents had one of these from new. The boot was so big they would occasionally put their 12 year old son in there if the car was full! He claimed it was quite comfortable.
@tonyburndred9828
@tonyburndred9828 4 жыл бұрын
It was a great car to own, comfortable, spacious, felt refreshed after long journeys, I really liked them.
@bernardcassidy6497
@bernardcassidy6497 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think there is any car that can beat the suspension, the cornering, the interior space and comfort than these Austins, my dad had an 1800 in the late sixties and to this day it still stands, this car is beautiful and it gives the land crab the more conventional proportions that were lacking before and as you say, if only it had been given more time to prove itself in the super luxury editions that were planned.
@bigjohno242
@bigjohno242 4 жыл бұрын
Another really interesting video Ian .. you are very very good at what you do mate ..
@andypsunshineisle5655
@andypsunshineisle5655 4 жыл бұрын
When you compare it with the Mk4 zodiac its not that bad. They were pretty vague as well. I had several landcrabs and mk4s but did drive a 3 litre for a trip and thought it was a lovely long distance hauler. It did feel it was a parts bin interior . Same with the later Wolsley transverse 6 wedge offering,suffered a simular fate but again was comfy being good on a long drive.
@Mercmad
@Mercmad 4 жыл бұрын
Just before I left NZ, I had a customer with a Wolseley Version in the same maroon. At the time anything leyland/BLMC etc was cursed in NZ,especially the poor P76 leylands. The garden looks nice...
@mrfahrenheit3867
@mrfahrenheit3867 4 жыл бұрын
I owned a 6/110 for a few years when I was there, a superior cruiser imho, and picnic tables in a car are a deal maker with me.
@hoatattis7283
@hoatattis7283 4 жыл бұрын
Mercmad: I had a P76 bLOODY AWESOME BOOT BUT THE bOOT LID WAS SO HEAVY IT DROPPED ON MY HEAD AND i WAS OUT FOR 10 MINUTES
@mikelowe3754
@mikelowe3754 4 жыл бұрын
Way back (2000ish), I met a couple of guys from the UK, looking for an Australian 24/80 / Austen Freeway motor, to take back to the UK. They were from the MG club UK and were building a copy of the prototype MGC which used the 2.4 engine. I happened to have a un run reconditioned 24/80 motor which I swapped for the car in the British car museum in Hawkes Bay which you visited. The original motor from this car also went to the UK
@nigel.w
@nigel.w 4 жыл бұрын
When this car was sold new, the national speed limit in NZ was only 80kph!
@rossawood5075
@rossawood5075 3 жыл бұрын
Very few adhered to this speed limit in NZ then and still don't, 100 kph is 110kph usually before a vehicle will be pulled up., The real limit was the quality of road and the many winding hill roads made this a challenge. The desert road in the North islands center was a favorite run for testing speed back then. My father was booked for speeding in 1956 on the Levin straights in our family's New Zealand assembled 1952 Chevrolet Styleline Deluxe with a 216 cu inch (3.6 liter) 6 cylinder engine by a cop in a 1947 Ford V8 Coupe eventually receiving a ticket for 2 pound 10 shillings I believe for doing 75 mph. Before leaving the scene both my father and the police officer lifted their respective bonnets and dicussed engines, ie flathead V8 Ford 239 cu inch vs the Chev with 6 cylinder overhead valve engine. The Chev had 3 on the tree and the Ford had 3 on the floor. (the OHV Chev 6's were better at keeping cool in the summer heat or on long hill climbs than the sidevalve Ford V8's incidently) Both ate fuel with those big heavy bodys, around 20 mpg cruising in the old Chev, though if I remember petrol was around 2/6d a gallon for super. The police officer said he had had his (right hand drive Ford V8 coupes were supplied to the NZ police in the late 40's for highway use) up to 86 mph just to see what it would do. My father asked how nuch did his ticket for speeding cost and he just laughed ! My father told him he had got the Chev up to 80 mph and chickened out as it was wallowing on the old roads and close to valve bouncing. Aaah the good old days?
@chrisrag1346
@chrisrag1346 3 жыл бұрын
my mates Dad had one of these, and remember him giving us a lift to the pub once or twice in it, and as I recall it was a lovely quiet comfortable ride. A lovely car.
@twrxj12
@twrxj12 4 жыл бұрын
I've got one of the other 15 in NZ. Pretty special car but very slow.
@mrpalm54
@mrpalm54 4 жыл бұрын
We need to chat 😉 John Vevers mrpalm54@gmail.com We have several...
@BarryAllenMagic
@BarryAllenMagic 4 жыл бұрын
Adorable car, that I'd feel privileged to own and drive. Had to chuckle at the ashtray though; it looks like something you'd make in woodwork class when you were 11.
@trevatkin4869
@trevatkin4869 4 жыл бұрын
This would be my ideal place to live, a good bit of land and old cars scattered about. And wow, I was waiting for you to start it up and you already had! So quiet!
@davidhayes4814
@davidhayes4814 4 жыл бұрын
Really great video. Even as a young kid, I was perplexed as to why it needed to be quite so heavy..... nearly half a ton heavier than the 1800. The published performance was quite compromised by the old engine and the sheer weight of the car.
@mrpalm54
@mrpalm54 4 жыл бұрын
Just good for 100 mph dead. Apart from the Engine re-engineered with 7 main bearings and lighter than the old C series all main suspension components are made of alloy, but it is a lot bigger car as well.
@shand1967
@shand1967 4 жыл бұрын
I have always loved these cars, probably because along with the MGC, they were launched at Earls Court on the day of my birth in 1967. I have always loved the looks and the presence of this car. Had they fitted it with the Rover V8 engine, what a beast it would have been.
@otto.a.2465
@otto.a.2465 4 жыл бұрын
An corner left unswept by wipers is called 'a corner of concern' goes nicely with your triangle of doom Ian.. Nice car and an excellent video, thanks!
@saintfunny
@saintfunny 4 жыл бұрын
I quite like how these look, it would be better with the Rover V8 though. *Note to self. No, you don't need one!*
@garypeatling7927
@garypeatling7927 3 жыл бұрын
The v8 didn't like pulling weight recon they should have done a bit of head work on 3 litre for best result
@iatsd
@iatsd 4 жыл бұрын
Landcrabs were great. So simple to maintain. Surprisingly thrashable. Immense fun to throw around on NZ gravel roads - very predictable slide characteristics. Comfy.
@kkiwi54
@kkiwi54 4 жыл бұрын
So simple to maintain? Not in my experience - engine out for just about anything (other than changing the plugs) ;)
@jakekaywell5972
@jakekaywell5972 4 жыл бұрын
@Blackie BMW Motorwerks Still more preferable in my mind to a whole host of other cars, both modern and from the 3-Litre's time period. I'm looking for one to import to the States currently.
@michaelwright2986
@michaelwright2986 4 жыл бұрын
The answer to vinyl seats in New Zealand, where sheep still outnumber people, is sheepskin seat covers. Not so common now, as cloth or real leather have taken over, but very nice.
@shand1967
@shand1967 4 жыл бұрын
My dad had a Maxi with vinyl seats and it would have been unbearable in summer and winter, if it wasn't for the sheepskin seat covers.
@raychambers3646
@raychambers3646 4 жыл бұрын
And retro!
@paulkirby5479
@paulkirby5479 4 жыл бұрын
I still have a pair of original 1970s sheepskin front seat covers. Last used in the late 90s on my brown vinyl vw seats. Safely stored for my next vinyl seat adventure.
@raychambers3646
@raychambers3646 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulkirby5479 I drove a fiat 127 in Spain a few years ago with vinyl seats,nearly took the skin of my back and legs! Ouch.
@mrpalm54
@mrpalm54 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still saving for sheepskin seat covers. Honestly I would love some for this and the other car crowd funding perhaps. 😉 John.
@NickRatnieks
@NickRatnieks 4 жыл бұрын
I used to visit a famous ad agency in Berkeley Square, London in 1990. My contacts there would drag me to a pub and they told me that some embassy nearby which had an ambassador's car that was a "stretched Maxi." Anyway, I saw it one day, it had some flags on the wings, and I told them it was the Austin Three Litre- a very rare bird. They were disappointed as they liked the idea of a stretched Maxi!
@andicog
@andicog 4 жыл бұрын
2 things, First, in this day and age to achieve that ride comfort it would require at least 2 microprocessor's, air bags and numerous sensors and secondly why don't manufacturers create sales brochures like that anymore? Things of beauty that could be pawed over for hours, now we get on line configurators, can't hand that down to the kids or flog it on eBay when funds are low! I must be getting old as I like the 3ltr, front grille/headlights hint at some Lancia or larger Fiat's perhaps?
@noth606
@noth606 4 жыл бұрын
andicog no, a modern car doesn't require airbags or microprocessors whatsoever, modern government however is a different deal. They are the ones who require ABS and airbags and all that, not cars or driver or buyers.
@andicog
@andicog 4 жыл бұрын
@@noth606 I was actually referring to suspension airbags as used on trucks, buses and certain cars, nothing to do with any legislation or government although air suspended trucks do cause less damage to roads. The joke being that it now takes air suspension that's computer controlled to give a similar ride quality to a 60's car.
@philnewstead5388
@philnewstead5388 4 жыл бұрын
noth606 unfortunately I think a lot of drivers do need these aids today. I consider myself a driver with above average experience , I drove an average of 2500 to 3000 miles a week as a long distance HGV driver for over 12 years but I made an error of judgement one night in my car and had it not had ABS and stability control I may well not have gotten away with it. Unfortunately in almost all cases accidents are caused by human error and no matter how skilled or experienced we are we are all susceptible to that. I am however a great believer in being able to switch everything off and just go and drive a car using my own skill when it's safe to do so.
@andicog
@andicog 4 жыл бұрын
@@philnewstead5388 I'm not sure, I was brought up on Escorts and 3 litre Capri's, I know how understeer and oversteer feels, I know how to respect rear wheel drive on a wet Road, I rode motorbikes for years so look for off camber corners, manholes and know how temp drops outside villages and towns, new car drivers are numbed from all this, mollycodled and protected by electronics, (not to mention cocooned with pointless infotainment and other distractions) probably safer but shouldn't you know how to drive without the aids first? People used to be motorists, they had an interest in their car, plenty could do maintenence and had mechanical understanding, now I see men with flat tyres awaiting assistance. Funny world.
@andicog
@andicog 4 жыл бұрын
@Blackie BMW Motorwerks Think your watching the wrong videos then. 😂
@theprior46
@theprior46 4 жыл бұрын
Very good video well filmed and entertaining as well as informative. Watched it all the way through. Far better than many car reviews on the TV or the internet. Thanks for making this. A great blast from the past.
@robenglish416
@robenglish416 4 жыл бұрын
I think the design is lovely, reminds me a little bit of Maserati Saloons with double headlights. The spartan interior I like, plastic handles I can live with, wood is lovely, leather would have been nice in a posh car, but hey it's the 70's, plastic fantastic!
@MapleMarmite
@MapleMarmite 4 жыл бұрын
I always liked these and the Land Crabs. The seats in that one look like new. If those haven’t been reupholstered, they really have held up well. As a teenager, I had ideas of getting one of these and painting it up like a New York cab as I though it looked like a posh Checker.
@mrpalm54
@mrpalm54 4 жыл бұрын
All of the interior is original 😉
@seancooke4127
@seancooke4127 4 жыл бұрын
I remember the first time I saw a photo of an Austin 3 Litre, accompanied, of course by the usual crap about how unimaginative, ungainly and ugly etc etc.. I thought that looks really class because I compared it with the 1800. As you do because you recognise the doors so you are not comparing it to a Jaguar or a Mercedes. Having later learnt how well they are built and drive it is reassuring to know that badge snobbery can often be complete nonsense. God Bless all the Granadas , Senators, Super Snipes, 25s and Safranes, 604s, 300Cs, Crowns, Fiat 130s, Sigmas, Legends. Indeed, legends all. Thanks again, another beautiful car Ian.
@keith6400
@keith6400 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a second hand one years ago for £395 a manual "J" reg. I always felt it was based on the New York taxi cab of the 1960's The Checker. I did see an Austin 3-litre Ambulance version which had a sort of headboard and an estate car format.
@geoffhalsey2184
@geoffhalsey2184 4 жыл бұрын
Weirdly I like the styling. Nice torquey engine too. My kind of car.
@thrunsguinneabottle3066
@thrunsguinneabottle3066 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget it went into production some six years after it was designed. There must be a lesson in there, somewhere. All the messages below are complementary about its appearance. And quite right too.
@HubNut
@HubNut 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it got rather held up because of the Bentley link I think.
@glenrea
@glenrea 4 жыл бұрын
It’s the one member of the Landcrab “family” that really interests me; ignoring the gopping front end, the side elevation of the car is very well proportioned and graceful, and the rear end treatment would have done well on the whole ADO17 range, or the Wolseley at the very least. Interior I think was trying to be both conservative (Wood & armchairs) and contemporary (vinyl, strip speedo). Front end, not sure how I would have styled it, probably more akin to its more stylish UK period rivals. The Wolseley prototype was certainly less ungainly!
@daweshorizon
@daweshorizon 3 жыл бұрын
The doors from the land crab were also used on the Panther DeVille, an ultra-luxury (but weird) car of the late 70's early 80's. The Land Crab had loads of interior space and leg-room in the rear seats. Loads of modern cars are just too small if you happen to be over 6 feet tall.
@sanatandharma4435
@sanatandharma4435 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review. I have never really considered this a 'looker' but have to admit that it looks really good! Like comments earlier I can see humber, maxi and Bentley! If they had angled the front lights like a jensen, it would look great!
@stephenwarhurst6615
@stephenwarhurst6615 4 жыл бұрын
Never knew of this car kinda looks like a Austin 1800 and a Humber Super Snipe both got drunk one night and 9 1/2 months later this car was born
@jochenstacker7448
@jochenstacker7448 4 жыл бұрын
British cars of this vintage were designed by men in suits who smoked pipes, sat in a walnut or oak panelled boardroom and drank tea from china cups with bisuits served on the side. If there were women, they had the job of bustling around in the background, organising papers and bringing in more tea and biscuits. There was a lot of pouring over hand-drawn blueprints whilst peering over half moon spectacles and terms like "tradition", "coachwork", "walnut trim" and "dynamically balanced crankshaft" were thrown about. What was not thrown about was "performance", "newest technology", (and I need double quotation marks) " "handling" " (he said the word like something he scraped from the bottom of his hand made Oxford brogue leather shoes). An elegant car by gentlemen for gentlemen from a more civilised age. Having space for your bowler hat, umbrella, briefcase and a copy of today's Times was far more important than any such fripperies like 0-60 times, cornering G forces or Nürburgring lap times.
@mrpalm54
@mrpalm54 4 жыл бұрын
They handle like a Mini and ride like a RR. A pretty good combination.
@alanlansdell7533
@alanlansdell7533 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny how much better these look from the 2020s, in the 70s they only looked good for the 50s.
@nw8000
@nw8000 4 жыл бұрын
Wow it looks brand new!
@g0fvt
@g0fvt 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the C-series engine but preferred the Farina bodies. The power figures seem unimpressive by modern standards but no worse than the competition. Try a Mk4 Zodiac.
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