A Great Game With Many Flaws: Fate/Extra | Review

[@arowmorth]

I think how Nasu wrote Hakuno as Self-Insert and a Character at the same time is amazing, cus you can even see the little differences in personality's between his male and female counterparts, esp as story progresses and if you chose different Servants. Nasu's thing for writing good LN and VN content is really helps to pin it down in this case. Hakuno is one of my favorite self-inserts characters now if i think about it, huh.

[@SensesEU]

Too bad they butchered him in the anime

[@arowmorth]

@@SensesEU Yeah.. Thats also cus 1) not every director can translate\adapt Nasu writing (or any VN\Game to that matter) to anime, 2) Nasu style of scenario writing itself (when he mainly doing it) mostly always (when it comes to Nasuverse esp) dosnt fit to be an anime, which Last Encore (and its scenario book Last Encore Your Score) proved. Much content didnt get into the screen. I wish Last Encore been a Game\LN or at least had more reach production.

[@SensesEU]

@@arowmorth Fair enough VNs have too much content to adapt into an anime but they just really butchered the whole thing. The dead face plot was horrid, even the style changed from tournament to Tower climbing. It was just whack.

[@arowmorth]

@@SensesEU Thats cus LE is an continuation of Ending but from timeline\world where Hakuno loses to Twice (plus pretty much almost all Extra Parallel World Timelines are differentiate in some things, as always in Nasuverse), so the way i see it of course its going down to ("whack") different staff, so i have no problem with it, that why i said what i said. Nasu knows how to write new storys (which tbf LE and Extella Zero is just that, only in Extra setting) and do new settings, its just some media is not his forte. Truly unfortunately tho indeed.

[@SensesEU]

@@arowmorth Oh I didnt realize it was supposed to be set in an alternative universe. I thought they were just adapting the Extra story. My bad 😔

[@icepmh]

I wasn't even into Fate when I bought this game just for it's cover. Years later, I can say it was destiny hahaha

[@giaoplays3413]

You mean it was Fate...! I'ma leave now I'm sorry

[@Mizari27]

simp

[@whateverwhatever4476]

@@giaoplays3413 naw, your good

[@TheBlaze22b]

Gatou got so much character development in CCC that it hurts that not many ppl know about it.

[@NeNeiSan]

I really want to play CCC, but I'm refraining until the translation patch drops to have a better experience.

[@chaldeandokutah138]

@@NeNeiSan You waiting for IwakuraProductions too?

[@NeNeiSan]

@@chaldeandokutah138 Yeah, nothing but props to the translation team.

[@niconiconichan2098]

@@chaldeandokutah138 When it's finished what devices can the game be played??

[@haveagoodday7021]

@@niconiconichan2098 PC/Emulator I assume

[@OwlCitttty]

ah yes of course the obvious 3 classes for the main character archer, saber and... CASTER

[@someguywithabirdface2583]

It would be great if rider , Lancer , assassin and beserker is available.

[@MrInuhanyou123]

Who is hype for the remake?!

[@NeNeiSan]

I can't wait for it. I haven't played Archer's route yet just so I can have a new experience when it comes out.

[@arowmorth]

Hell yeah! I so cant wait that i actually near completing the og once again 4th time.

[@DarkSideOfMirror]

Me! I can't wait for the remake

[@pyroflare7774]

@@DarkSideOfMirror what remake?

[@turboglider505]

@@pyroflare7774 the sequel to fate/extra is fate/extra ccc so he wants to get a remake for that one too

[@arowmorth]

Congrats us with Tamamo Fate/Extra Record trailer (and other big Nasuverse things, oh boy)! Now cant wait to see HakuBro.

[@NeNeiSan]

Just saw the trailer and made me even more impatient to play it again. Type-Moon really pulled out everything they had with the reveals today. It made me proud to be a Type-Moon fan.

[@arowmorth]

@@NeNeiSan Indeed, it was crazy, i still cant believe this (TSUKIHIME SOON, M-boy, Tama F/ER, F/GC, Camelot, Prisma, etc) all... And i cant believe i somehow get M-boy NP2 (Rip my Super O-boy for now tho) lmao Happy new year!

[@NeNeiSan]

@@arowmorth Muramasa forced me to finally catch up with my JP account, currently grinding out the story for Quartz. I played his trial quest and he seems so fun to play with, especially when paired with Castoria. Good job on getting him NP 2! I was thinking I may want to get him NP5 on my NA account, and since I'm mostly F2P, I might start saving now (Which I probably won't stick with).

[@caellanmurphy4751]

@@NeNeiSan now that the patch for fate extra incombat subs is out ive been replaying fate extra so now i can finally understand their banter

[@BrandonYUMad]

Watching all the gameplay and hearing the ost while listening to the vid hit me with maaaaad nostalgia. I’m trying to hold off on replaying Extra until the remake comes out, but man, the review really makes me want to go back and give it another run, this game was like my whole middle school experience during lunch and after school lol. Great review!

[@NeNeiSan]

I've seen a lot of talk about Extra recently and I:m having that same feeling. I want to play it again and re-experience the story, but at the same time I don't want to spoil my enjoyment for when it comes out. It really deserves more love! Thank you!

[@13nLen]

I love this game its so great but man did it break me down at so many parts

[@NeNeiSan]

I was really surprised by how good the story actually was. I expected it to be decent at best, but turned out to be one of my favorites. Just need that remaster to give a boost to the gameplay and visuals.

[@SensesEU]

Banger video m'lord Battle 3 was my ringtone for YEARS

[@NeNeiSan]

Glad you enjoyed! I really love the OST for this game. I often find myself going back and listening to it on occasion, with Battle 3 as my favorite. I hope they dont change the soundtrack too much for the remake.

[@SensesEU]

@@NeNeiSan I think I heard the old music in the trailer so I'm pretty sure that'll stay intact. It seem like the game is just gonna be a face lift. Love the music in this game though - wouldn't know how to describe the genre at all though.

[@arisdrik]

CCC's unofficial translation is finally completed, now we wait for the team to import it in game in about 15 years, wooooo

[@NeNeiSan]

I've been keeping tabs on it as well! I'm very excited to see what the hype is about!

[@ThatWhiteHand]

I guess I'm just someone who cherishes original experiences over remakes, but I decided to buy a psp and a copy just to play it the way it was being played back in 2010. I even had to wind up buying a 2nd psp which will be here next week as my 1st one somehow bricked. Good to know the game will hopefully be an experience that makes the hassles worth it. Nice video as well, I really enjoyed it.

[@NeNeiSan]

That's a good mentality to go into it. It has its charm, especially in the story department. Though it does have some problems along the way. Game play can be a bit of a grind, but if you're into that then it will be a fun experience. Once you get the chance to play it I hope you enjoy the experience. Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed!

[@yujukiyuuki7203]

Same

[@ThatWhiteHand]

The story was pretty great. Didn't like the whole rock paper scissors gameplay too much however.

[@nanofate8662]

Extra and CCC, basically the only two entries worth trying.

[@NeNeiSan]

I heard CCC was amazing, but I'm just waiting on the translation to play through it. I played a bit through Extella a while ago and seems that it lost what made Extra special.

[@nanofate8662]

@@NeNeiSan Cause Extella forgot what made your two main routes great. They went in the worst direction possible.

[@UNKNOWN-ov7md]

Awesome review, I agree with basically everything that was said here. In general, I truly enjoyed the story of the game, with all it came through and characters like Leo and Julius were amazing; I also enjoyed Hakuno as a character, while he starts weak as a character, as the rounds go on he managed to geniuenly make me like him. I generaly play more with Male Hakuno because I like his desing more than the female one. Also... I see that someone has seen the light and has accepted Tamamo as the superior waifu...

[@NeNeiSan]

It was a great experience, I was really surprised with the quality of the story telling. I have heard CCC has an even better story, but I really want to wait for the translation patch before playing it. What can I say, cute ears, fluffly tail, loving wife, and "Mikooon". 100% best girl

[@UNKNOWN-ov7md]

@@NeNeiSan Well, I have been playing CCC and, while I can't say anything about the quality of the story (due to the fact that I can't read japanese), I can at least say that the gameplay 'feels' less like a burden than this one, which is strange considering the fact that they are almost the same there, I guess that the level design and thee fact that the EXP rewards of beating programs aren't reduced when you level up... One last thing I can say is that the characters 'feel' more charismatic; it's a weird feeling that it wasn't present in the normal EXTRA, but even only understanding the context of the situation I can feel the scenes being more fun to watch even without completely understanding what they say (BB, for instance, is the biggest example of this; even without completely understanding what she says, she feels genuinely enjoyable to watch). Ah... Tamamo is honestly such a fun Servant to play with, she was the first Servant I choose and the one I completed the game with first.

[@NeNeiSan]

@@UNKNOWN-ov7md That's good to hear, I'm really looking forward to play it. BB is a character I'm interested in. Mostly because she is a Sakura face, but her personality from Grand Order makes her seem like a fun character.

[@user-og5wb6ni9r]

I'm going to do something that will annoy lots of people... Ahem Nameless and Emiya are the same person, just with different endings

[@NeNeiSan]

I have yet to play through Archer's route. I am saving that for the remake, so if there are any differences, I wouldn't know.

[@HachannEinzbern]

I absolutely love this game, t's one of my favorite games ever, Hakuno evolves into such a great protagonist , and the story and soundtrack are great. I still only played 1 time tho, i want to play with the other servants too, i loved Rani/Nero's route, so i'm planning to start a Rin/Nameless run a bit later this year

[@NeNeiSan]

Extra is one of those games that deserve so much love, everything besides the gameplay is immaculate. I've played it twice so far, one with Nero and Tamamo, I want to play it once more, but I'm going to hold off till the remake.

[@HachannEinzbern]

@@NeNeiSan Yes, i totally agree with you, i'm waiting for the remake too, it's looking good, i wish that the devs talked more about the game itself

[@Smurasaki-os9td]

I feel one reason Fate/Extra gets some lower review scores, is people treat it like a game. Well, yes. It is a game. But to fully appreciate it, you need to look at it more like a Visual Novel with RPG elements, as I've seen one too many people criticize it for being to much "reading simulator"

[@NeNeiSan]

The actual reading was my favorite part of the game. I agree with you with how it is more story driven than gameplay driven, and if you are going to go into, do it for the story. It's a shame to see people write this off when the story itself is a great one.

[@signalzero77]

Woo I'm your 999th subscriber! Nice review!

[@NeNeiSan]

Thank you so much! I hope you enjoy the content!

[@MrThecrazyzombie]

Here before Fate extra record

[@NeNeiSan]

Can't wait till there is more information about it!

[@TheBlaze22b]

Fate/EXTRA was my intro to the fate series. So i have a very big bias towards

[@NeNeiSan]

That's interesting, I haven't heard of much people getting in through Extra. I would feel like its a not a bad entry point either, just a bit limited due to the console it released on. Hopefully the remake gets a lot more people into Extra since its a great game.

[@waltersobchak7275]

@@NeNeiSan where to start?

[@NeNeiSan]

@@waltersobchak7275 With the Fate Series?

[@waltersobchak7275]

@@NeNeiSan yes please.

[@NeNeiSan]

@@waltersobchak7275 If you don't mind Visual Novels is is highly recommend to start with the Fate/ Stay Night Visual Novel as the anime cuts major plot and character details. Then once you have finished all 3 routes of Fate/Stay Night move onto the sequel Fate/Hollow Ataraxia, then finally either the Fate/Zero light novels or anime. If you are anime only- Start with Fate/Stay Night 2006, then Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works, then the 3 Fate/Stay Night Heaven's Feel movies, and then Fate/Zero. This is considered the main Fate timeline. After you experience the 3 routes of Stay Night VN or anime and Zero, you can watch the spinoffs in whatever order that interests you. Fate is also apart of a shared universe called the Nasuverse. Other series within this universe are Tsukihime (Visual Novel), Kara No Kyoukai (Anime and Novel), and many more.

[@gtb553]

Despite its flaws, the Fate/EXTRA Series one of my favourite: the 1st wasn't easy, I picked Tamamo and as much as I love her she's hard to play XD, but I powered through it; EXTELLA was different but I still enjoy it, especially the story and music; Last Encore feel like a 600 pages novel crushed in 13 episodes but was interesting; CCC Fox Tail give Tamamo more presence and a rival which is awesome; and for CCC, while I know some Japanese, it was longer than the 1st is even more awesome. The only that doesn't speak much to me is EXTELLA LINK. They tuned up the muso very well compared to EXTELLA, but the story, music, and presentation doesn't keep me invested enough... But hey Charlie is pretty cool. And it might controversial but I prefer the EXTRA Series over the other Fate/ entries, especially stay night & Zero. Not to say there bad, by no means. I mean, I got to be on the moon XD.

[@unqualifiedprofessortanuki1757]

good video, 10/10

[@NeNeiSan]

Thank you!

[@xxmegagallade47]

did you end up playing fate/extra ccc now that the fanmade english patch is released? would love to hear your thoughts on it

[@NeNeiSan]

I'm currently playing through it at the moment, nearing the end of chapter 3! It has a lot of personality to it and love how it explores the concept of ego and psyche. I 100% plan to make a video of it when I complete it!

[@TheBubblegumeater]

Hey mate, are you gonna review Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star & Fate/EXTELLA LINK?

[@NeNeiSan]

I didn't plan to until CCC's translation released, but I might do it before then. I have both games, but haven't started them yet.

[@Chelaxim]

A great game with many flaws is pretty much the entire ouvre of Imageepoch...except Time And Eternity screw that game.

[@DrayLoco]

Awe is it really that bad? I love the way that game looks. I wish another game with an awesome story would try that faithful 2d anime style

[@likha9676]

This is a great review

[@NeNeiSan]

Thank you so much!

[@Yukuaragami]

So your saying we gonna play with only one servant to fight?

[@NeNeiSan]

Yes, after you pick a servant in the beginning you only fight with them for the rest of teh game unless you make another save.

[@yep1486]

that's how holy grail wars works

[@thiccbear4273]

PADORU PADORU

[@meh4294]

Soooo, fate extra is basically persona but make it fate

[@shauqiharris2772]

Yes.

[@13thdarkness3]

do Fate/Extra ccc next

[@NeNeiSan]

I'm going to start playing it very soon and plan to make a video on it!

[@13thdarkness3]

@@NeNeiSan nice

[@shauqiharris2772]

One of the best fate series (in my opinion) with the worst anime adaptation ever.

[@NeNeiSan]

I remember watching Last Encore years ago and was complete confused as to what was happening. Would love to see a well made Extra adaptation.

[@johnmatrix5809]

Another amnesiac, great

[@NeNeiSan]

While he isn't original, he still is a pretty decent character due to his thought process and development later in the story.