A History of Cancelled Metal Gear Solid Games and Concepts

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The nature of video game development is such that games are often developed by large teams with a collaborative approach to creativity. While certain individuals within a team might possess more experience or sway than others, development studios are often trepid to present their works as being auteur-driven - as being directed by a singular artist that controls all creative aspects of the work, and imbues it with a recognizable style associated with them alone. But Konami’s Metal Gear Solid series is a notable exception to this trend. From the release of the original Metal Gear in 1987, to the release of Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain in 2015, the series and its unique brand of military escapism mixed with magical realism has been inexorably linked with its auteurist guidance by series director and writer, Hideo Kojima.
However, while this auteurism enabled the series to be uncompromising in its ambitions in ways many other triple-A video game franchises cannot afford to be, many compromises were made to the Metal Gear Solid franchise all the same. Be it due to time constraints, hardware limitations, creative disagreements, or whatever other reason one could imagine, Metal Gear Solid - just like any other video game franchise - was built upon innumerable rejected concepts and ideas. With the future of the series highly uncertain following the departure of Hideo Kojima and other notable talents attached to the series from Konami, we felt that it would be worthwhile to investigate some of the series’ more fleshed-out rebuffs, to both wonder about what could have been - and show how many of these failures served as the foundation for future successes. From an ambitious iteration of Metal Gear Solid 2 featuring great white sharks and a mind-reading mask, to a subversive spin-off that went as far as to be showcased on-stage at E3 before being cancelled, and then revived under a different name and developer, the history of the Metal Gear Solid series’ rejected concepts illustrates that while some of the most inspired ideas will never see the light of day, others just need the right time and place to flourish.
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[@BovineDesigns]

Shame Metal Gear Survive is not among the number of cancelled games.

[@DumbSoulss]

So true!

[@GCeara-mh5it]

Ezra If I bought the game, I would simply buy it because I like it, not for Kojima, and neither for Konami, but for me. I couldn't give a rat's ass about the Kojima-Konami politics, and the Kojima fanboys are a disgrace..

[@John199312]

@Ezra The biggest aspect of the game is "co-op game with MGS V mechanics, and a few survival game mechanics". It's not a game to surpass Metal Gear. Unlike MGR, your mileage depends on how you(r friends) like multiplayer. It's not bad, and the price reflected that it wasn't a 'full' entry.

[@John199312]

@Ezra The campaign is used as a vehicle to get you starter gear and skills for the co-op missions. Sub-classes are unlocked by completing the story, facilities to craft items are unlocked in the story, survival items (food) are primarily found in the SP game. It's fun, but it wouldn't be hard to believe if the idea for the campaign to be what it embed up as was fleshed out late in the development process, and very different from the original concept.

[@commando7238]

@Ezra the only problem with survive is it sabotage by a rogue developer and there's a lot of bugs personally it's not really worth it I rather spend my money on the original price of Ground Zeroes I enjoyed it for the first few hours then I got bored

[@harrisonmckinney7659]

This dude's voice is on the level of old school History Channel. Incredible!

[@stevepVO]

Thanks!

[@kevinfortsch]

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[@miguelelgueta5830]

Harrison McKinney To me sounds like the guy from Mass Effect 2 (the one who described shit, lore etx wonder whats his name.

[@user-zw4wh1tm9x]

it's compressed way too much, and buzzes constantly, don't know what you mean man

[@valjmakj7265]

I was just writing that! it's awesome!

[@Blake_Stone]

"Chinaman, a Vietnamese marital arts expert..." Oh Kojima. Never change.

[@SolidSmurf91]

Martial*

[@Blake_Stone]

TBH, a marital arts expert would be even MORE Kojima.

[@SolidSmurf91]

Blake Stone mgs 6: marital gear solid

[@dreworyan5652]

It’s a play off of IP Man. But yeah Kojima is a wacky but brilliant man.

[@mugiwaradarwin4504]

"Years ago....I was Chinese." - Chinaman

[@jackhoward705]

I've always wanted a Metal Gear game set back in World War 2 with the Cobra unit. It could definitely expand on the lore about The Boss and her philosophy, the backgrounds of the others as well as showing us a war without the Patriots or Cypher.

[@dantess2693]

The Sorrow would've been an interesting character to get to know!

[@onewingedangel3937]

comme ntor agree

[@chriskeepit100]

comme ntor never pondered that but hey,you're right,that shit would've definitely been dope

[@chase_mcdude4833]

Hideo new game kinda has a ww2 setting to it, now sony told him he can do whatever he wants, u think he would use this opportunity to release what he always want

[@chadkingoffuckmountain970]

Rex how does it feel to have shit taste?

[@3DGECASE]

I love how Kojima modeled potential MGS2 scenes using Lego bricks and Gamera figures.

[@jgarfunkle]

Nintendope64 And he's like Michael Bay "Den de snaku coma in and ah he go rike "crawww crawww" den de metar gealu come in and he go rike "CRAWWW CRAWWWW!"

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

jgarfunkle what the fuck are you talking about?

[@tiernanstevens117]

A year late here- but he always uses lego and toys when creating set pieces. Does it for death stranding too

[@Bi_scotti_5]

@@tiernanstevens117 I'm pretty sure he only did this for MG1, MG2, and MGS

[@tiernanstevens117]

@@Bi_scotti_5 unless you document hiswp whole life.. i doubt it. Just because they don't show it doesn't mean he doesn't do it. Also... No. He did it for death stranding. Tweeted multiple times. What a stupid correction

[@IIIrdOff]

You used my Boss WW2 fan art on thumbnail, that is so cool! Great video by the way)

[@GVMERS]

Thank you! I loved your artwork, great work! :)

[@igodreamer7096]

Great workshop, indeed! =D

[@IIIrdOff]

You can get it in my reddit post. There is a version without text and logos in comments. www.reddit.com/r/metalgearsolid/comments/6qr72n/i_created_an_mgs_poster_about_boss_in_ww2_setting/

[@stephentoth6003]

Honkyhomeboy5000 i always thought about how cool that would have been , i had no idea hideo wanted to actually make it

[@vantilsley8633]

But shit they didn't ask to use the art befor posting though right?

[@yurimyszkowski]

This channel is so underrated

[@Jonathanmestrejedi]

Agreed

[@hithummah]

indeed for I got tired of the shit trend of gaming channels. I like the professionalism and formality of channel as opposed to have two grown-ass child men yelling and telling corny jokes.

[@Ye4rZero]

i'm stoked JUST found it

[@Tylerson]

This comment is so understated.

[@carldimayuga6419]

pachinkos are the real future -konami 2016

[@gialy1]

A weapon to surpass the Metal Gear, right ?

[@juliashenandoah3965]

LOOOOOOOOOL "Pachinkos are the future" - no one in the whole world outside a small Tokyos underground arcade scene, which means billions of other gamers worldwide, don`t even KNOW what a so-called "Pachinko machine thing" is without googling it..... A CEO stating that "patchinkos are the future of gaming", MUST look for a different, more appropriate job.... maybe garden work or selling cars, but nothing videogame related.

[@Ike_of_pyke]

Carl Dimayuga actually not what they said

[@Ike_of_pyke]

Julia Shenandoah Konami hasn't ever been a solely game focused also, since dropping out of the Triple A market (what their actual qoute was) they've seen a huge PROFIT, I'm talking about 100%+ profits

[@raycocker639]

I was in Japan a few months ago, I was wondering around Tokyo looking for the Metal Gear Solid pachinko machine, couldn't find it. Most of them are of Fist of the North Star etc...

[@austin4rr]

Hey GVMERS...you're pretty good!

[@uristboatmurdered6051]

austin4rr Pretty......Good?

[@RogueSeraph]

austin4rr "just what I expect from the man with the same code as the boss...but i'm just getting warmed up" I may have played MGS way too much when I was a kid 😁

[@marthakroegonnfogrn9226]

adam?

[@John199312]

Hey Austin. Kept you waitin', huh?

[@BIGNOIDS]

The entire series needs a remaster.

[@machudaimarunrak6292]

Not by Konami... they will fucked it up. They fucked everything up when Kojima is not around. Every MGS games done 100% by Kojima was legendary MGS/MGS3/MGS4. Every MGS games Konami change his idea/force him to do something he don't want to is not as great MGS2/MGS5/MGSRV EVERY MGS GAME THAT KONAMI PRODUCED WITHOUT KOJIMA IS ABSOLUTE SHIT. He design the characters. He wrote all the lore and stories. He pretty much is everything the organs, the heart, the limbs and the brain of MGS franchise. His contribution for this franchise is legendary like it was his own children. Without him KONAMI cannot produce anything nearly as half good as Kojima works. If Kojima is not the one doing it then it's time to end this series misery for good.

[@chris9206]

Thats like 12 to 20 games.

[@danjac354]

And Metal gear rising needs a sequel.

[@squabbbb]

Emulate it. Konami doesn't deserve your money.

[@CheeseMeeseGetCheesed]

@@machudaimarunrak6292 i agree with you on mgs5 but i think msg2 was good and mgsr was up to the standards of the metal gear series.

[@RDR12344]

This channel needs at least a million subscribers

[@BLHish]

s s If they keep making content like this they will for sure.

[@Kaixero]

Will never not be upset about not getting Raiden's story after 2. A game where Raiden embraces who he is after he stops trying to be snake, using a stealth framework but focused on melee shenanigans. Revengeance was awesome but I would've preferred a game that felt closer to an evolution of the end of 2 rather than Ninja Scroll: Cyborg Videogame edition.

[@efini_fc4276]

Jack The Ripper!

[@joshshrum2764]

Kaixe Rho Don’t discredit Revengeance.

[@yaboylitty6732]

Raiden saving sunny as a cyborg after mgs2.... That's kinda wild..... I feel nanomachines was enough

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[@charleshan3227]

At 5:36 you can see 3 different Shrek boxes on Kojima's desk

[@AishEchad]

I would play the hell out of a WW2 MGS game featuring The Boss. I hope Kojima manages to come back to it at some point.

[@solidusosiris38]

Probably won't happen since he has left Konami, or rather since Konami left him. Maybe someone could make it with his blessing?

[@samuraigundam0079]

He didn't mention that the original end sequence in MGS2 was to feature the destruction of the Twin Towers, before it was cut, because of what happened on 9/11.

[@nutritiousnut]

kojima did 9/11

[@MadokaTokisaki]

Rasuke11 There is some leftover files in the game data. Near the end of the game, before fighting Solidus Snake, Arsenal gear was origninally going to be show smashing into New York City, Demolishing a significant portion of it.

[@silverpslm]

That's insane

[@LudvikKoutnyArt]

That voice combined with the video editing and elaborate narrative makes it just top notch. GVMERS videos could easily become a full fledged commercial TV documentary series at HBO quality level right in its current form. Yes, it's that good. :)

[@997Productions]

I heard Kojima wanted to have a standalone game focusing on Gray Fox, probably taking place immediately after Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake. The game was supposed to be a sequel to Revengence but serves as a prequel to MGS1 in terms of story. Wouldve been great to play as Gray, since the only time you ever could was in VR Missions (not including the skin featured in Revengence or his Null persona)

[@schubertrivasdogsoldier]

The Guy From '97 Reveangence is after Guns of Patriots

[@997Productions]

Schubert Rivas Yes. But non-canon.

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

The Guy From '97 not necessarily, it’s a spin off but it’s place in the series is for players to decide for themselves. I would still like an origins game for cyborg raiden with a mission on cyborg grey fox’s origin as well, I feel that a stand-alone Cobra unit game would get a lot like Wolfenstein level craziness tbh

[@997Productions]

Amir Pourghoureiyan Unfortunately our hopes for a game about Gray Fox & The Cobra Unit are slim now. Perhaps one day...a long time from now we may get them.

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

The Guy From '97 maybe when Konami goes bankrupt from an impending gambling crash and human rights lawsuit and platinum games buys their IPs

[@rodrigofernandez9957]

Missed the oportunity to call this one "Metal Gear: The Phantom Games"

[@crozraven]

Dang it, now I want metal gear solid game with Boss as the MC.

[@DarkShadow-pe6ud]

The very first Metal Gear game was also a cancelled one. Originally Hideo Kojima was planning to made a war based action game where the protagonist was going to be called Gray Fox, but due to some hardware limitations, he scrapped this concept and had the ideia to make a game where instead of attacking enemies, the player must try to avoid them, and that's when the concept of the original Metal Gear born, he then named the main character Solid Snake because it fitted more the new concept of the game and called a prisoner in the game Gray Fox to represent the failure of the first game (first mission).

[@AnselmoFormolo]

Interesting, do you have a source?

[@PirateCat822]

@@AnselmoFormolo Lemino

[@theexpresidents]

Uh no, that is not true. Metal Gear was already in production when Kojima came along, which is why Konami owns MG outright.

[@DarkShadow-pe6ud]

@@theexpresidents Uh no, Metal Gear was Kojima's idea, the fact that he doesn't own the IP it's because he developed it under Konami, so Konami has the right, same reason why you create characters for Marvel or Disney or DC, you don't own your creations as long as you're working por a big company, you're creating things working for them, so it theirs and not yours, if you want to own your stuff you must create your own company, otherwise you don't own it.

[@ErgonomicChair]

Kojima didn't actually cancel Solid Rising, it tested so poorly and he was so obsessed with the cutting mechanic that the game played... like garbage. Platinum games was brought on to first consult, they then redesigned the game, kojima threw a temper tantrum and forced them to release the game without the MEtal Gear Solid manicure out of pettiness.

[@drewsanvicente7137]

Snake? SNAAAAAKE!!!!!!

[@zitegiste]

Thanks for always putting so much effort into these...

[@zanychelly]

Imagine a The Boss game set in WWII ❤️ Unfortunately never going to happen, only if somebody ends up buying the ip from Konami and letting Kojima work on it.... Sony? Please?!

[@Alexrocks1253]

zanychelly We wouldn't want it solely on PS4, though, would we?

[@iancawley9777]

Alexander Crocker I don't care what console the game comes with out on I just want to it to exist as something people can play and enjoy

[@x-cryptikchaos-x407]

Happy Mask Salesman yes we do

[@Kazuhira2249]

Ian Cawley or if somehow konami give kojima all metal gear rights but that would never happen

[@fsafombe9195]

have you seen vids about death stranding being mgs zero :D

[@micpere1991]

Man I would of loved a open world game staring the Boss and her Cobra Unit in world war two. Do like a buddy system where the Boss could take a member and each member offered a advantage. ie the end being a scout like quiet or the sorrow reading soldiers minds and updating your map.

[@andreistoica2470]

Like Sniper Elite fir example

[@andreistoica2470]

For example

[@kappinr-m80s23]

Noooo! I would have loved a Metal Gear Solid game featuring the Boss from MGS III During World War II. It makes me so sad that it is probably never going to happen....

[@Spamlynguist]

Along with Noclip, this channel pumps out some really polished and professional looking and sounding gaming content. Keep it up guys!

[@thomasburline4130]

Amazing video. Super interesting. I hope you do more videos on cancelled metal gear games. Thank you for putting the time into it.

[@KozibearLive]

Hey Everyone, I'm Alexander Kozina, the writer for this video. I had a great time putting together this retrospective look at the Metal Gear series' cancelled projects, and hope to make many more videos in the future with GVMERS about weird, arcane video game projects that never saw the light of day. In the mean time, I'll be in the comments for the next hour and a bit, so feel free to ask me your burning questions and concerns, should you have them!

[@Necrospunk]

Hey dude, appreciate the effort. Way more than I appreciate a naked Ted Cruz garbling the man balls of Sarah Palin on my vacation home floor in November. That was actually pretty damn disgusting. Anyhow; great work. Really opened my perspective to the background of MGS. #fuckonami Peace. -G

[@WiiAllTheWayHome]

No mention of the change to not include the attack on new York following 9/11 in mgs2? Was that just a rumor?

[@KozibearLive]

@WiiAllTheWayHome There was indeed content cut from the end of Metal Gear Solid 2 late into its development in response to the events of 9/11, such as a cutscene that depicted Arsenal Gear crashing through the Statue of Liberty and wrecking half of Manhattan, as well as Raiden cutting the rope on the Federal Hall's flagpole, causing the flag to cover Solidus' lifeless body. Ultimately, I wanted my focus of this video to specifically be on Metal Gear games and ideas that were shelved early on in their production; the Metal Gear Solid 2 Arsenal Gear stuff occupied a sort of odd spot that didn't really jive with the rest of video's content. However, we might bring it up in a future Metal Gear Solid video.

[@nuruddinshah684]

I wonder so much about this What is like to work under kojima. Look I get it fucking konami but there ALWAYS 2 side of a story And about the Document's and where did you get it and all the video of kojima in office

[@KozibearLive]

@Nuruddin Shah The director pulled the footage from a number of documentaries that you can find online that show off Kojima in his old work environment, such as "Hideo Kojima's Gene" (a documentary about the making of Metal Gear Solid 4). I recommend that you check that video out, as well as "The Truth Behind Rising" and "Metal Gear Solid 2 - The Making of a Hollywood Game." With regards to Kojima and Konami, it's hard to say. Based on my research, Kojima strikes me as an incredibly smart and talented individual - however, he also strikes me as a perfectionist that has very little tolerance for sub-par quality, from both himself and his peers/co-workers. I would conjecture that his desire to make MGSV as perfect as possible resulted in him spending much more time and money than Konami felt to be reasonable, thus leading to the rift between the two.

[@MD_Hooligan]

GVMERS kept us waiting.

[@austin2150]

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[@nohero1339]

Do more of this I love learning about concepts and designs from games I like

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[@Commander9994]

Amazing! I'm so glad that someone created this! It is very descriptive and interesting. Thank you! Keep up the good videos! :)

[@BossmanWilderMEZ]

This commentary and review made my day!! Thanks for this

[@msgtvarela]

Well for MGS2, unfortunately due to 9/11, a significant portion of the ending was changed.

[@bigsadge]

Kevin Varela was wondering why he didn't mention it

[@HenglishShogun]

Do we know what was supposed to happen?

[@rumdonkey7826]

They just cut the cinematic of arsenal crashing into manhattan.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

Not only that, all the flags were removed and a line of Solidus was stripped away.

[@rumdonkey7826]

The line that Solidus said was: "9/11 was an inside job."

[@subarc_]

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[@StealthBrutalX]

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[@igodreamer7096]

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[@NireFuster]

I thought this was a documentary but then I realized it's just really good editing and voice acting holy shit you're amazing man

[@thequestion2859]

I would have loved to see that scene with Snake fighting Ocelot at the end. Even switching back for 1 boss battle would have been so satisfying, cause the whole time I played MGS2, I was waiting to play as Snake again

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[@Productions-rf5he]

I will have to say this narration is a nice change of pace.

[@SeanHunterMusic]

As a long time fan of metal gear, watching this video was awesome! Excellent work!! :D

[@BlitzvogelMobius]

9:00 Yeah, that much enemy AI wouldn't have likely been all too workable on the PS2 when trying to work all the other stuff the Emotion Engine was handling. Just kick and knock over the Marines by domino effect in the tanker chapter and you get to see what happens when dozens of "enemies" have to be animated and physicalized (even though they are not ragdolls) all at once along with the rather simple AI. Later in on the Arsenal Gear, the number of Tengu fought at once by Raiden and Snake is kept pretty well controlled. General integer processing, which I imagine would be most needed for decent AI was not the Emotion Engine's strong suit by a long shot.

[@TCGchan]

Absolutely excellent video didn't blink the full time!

[@SMSmith]

Top notch work. Much appreciated. Instant sub.

[@ChurriFMA]

Amazing channel, amazing narrative.

[@Resimaster]

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[@alicm17]

Wth is this channel, why is this quality so good and yet so underated ?!

[@EliseoRocha]

Making me want to go back and play the HD collection on my Vita. This channel is incredible.

[@Game-Geki]

There were some early MGS4 character concepts, one of which showed a non-ninja Raiden holding a sword and a baby (Sunny most likely). I've always wondered what the original idea was behind that and how it was meant to have been shown in the game. A prequel chapter perhaps?

[@callmeinstead]

Gekidami It's gone around the Internet that Metal Gear Solid Rising was about how Raiden saved Sunny from the Patriots. Would've been amazing imo.

[@purdster83]

Top shelf video right here.

[@benoto1014]

I wanted a prequel sooo bad. Would've been awesome to play as the original boss during WW2, but I get how that would've been difficult to pull off.

[@jimdino77]

its so refreshing to get this type of content without cheesy jokes and forced sarcasm.... saving the "like and subscribe" until the end.... bravo for professionalism and quality

[@link2dpast]

The guy narrating this video has an amazing voice. Its like I'm watching a documentary on TV. Subbed!

[@akufromthefuture7159]

I was so excited for metal gear solid rising.. An interquel between 2 and 4 about raiden being turned into the cyborg, rescuing sunny from the patriots at area 51, etc sounded great. Plus it involved the sneaking stealth mechanics with advanced mgs2 sword physics.. I was super excited. First game i ever preordered AND paid for fully first visit. When it was scrapped for what ultimately released, i was heartbroken. Rising revengeance was decent as an action gane.. As far as mgs canon, i count it as an non canon spinoff. It didnt handle raiden the right way at all, AT ALL. i could list stuff all day. The action was decent, but none of it felt like it would work in mgs's world It felt like something raiden's son john would pretend/imagine his father doing when he said he reminded him of a super hero. Thats the only way i personally could accept it as canon.

[@joethealternativegamer3935]

Another excellent closer look! One of my favorite series (except 5)

[@SefniAsheforr]

I love the presentation of this video, holy crap. It feels way more like a historical documentary rather than a typical video essay with the soft pretentious essayist voice. Definitely gonna check out more of your content.

[@Ike_of_pyke]

Nice with the focus on Yuji at the end there

[@navylaks2]

Konami should help the remake of the original Metal Gear from 1987 now titled Metal Gear Outer heaven

[@zacharyfarmer6117]

This channel is so professional. It's almost as if I'm watching the gaming equivalent of the history channel.

[@ModestEgg]

I keep expecting these videos to end with: "Directed by Ken Burns"

[@HarterConner]

Great video, narrator on point.

[@sega.maniac]

Very interesting info !!! 👏🧐

[@vegavega5344]

I hope Metal Gear Survive bombs so hard that Konami decides to sell the Metal Gear IP back to Kojima, then Kojima can do whatever he want with Metal Gear, it is better letting him having it and deciding what to do with it than letting Konami fuck with something legendary.

[@alegendarywolf3278]

Vega Vega they won't give up the ip.

[@vegavega5344]

I know, and that is what is such a huge shame about it, Konami will most definetily not do a single shit with the Metal Gear IP other than Metal Gear Survive which is a quick cash grab and an excuse to milk the Fox Engine for everything it is worth while it is still a fresh engine. Besides, Metal Gear is -nothing- without the master mind of Hideo Kojima behind it, nothing but an empty shell with the name of the franchise on it. Even though Konami releases future Metal Gear games, fans of the franchise know that it is not really Metal Gear without Kojima. And sure, Kojima wanted to move onto new projects and not work on another Metal Gear Solid game, but if Kojima had the IP, there would atleast be a small chance that something might pop up on the future, besides.. It is better with no future Metal Gear games than to let Konami milk, shame and butcher a great franchise.

[@LilyArciniega]

Kojima doesn't want metal gear anymore. the IP is not in good hands at Konami but I'd also rather it not be in the hands of someone who is currently very happy doing other things.

[@vegavega5344]

Personally I'd rather Kojima have them, like I said earlier. Metal Gear as an IP is nothing without Kojima's brilliant mind behind the story of the game, so I'd rather have no new games, and cherrish and remember the games as the good games they were in Kojima's image. I'd hate to see the franchise go down the drain with half-asses releases such as Metal Gear Survive, which is nothing but a quick cashgrab, copy-paste game to use the Fox Engine at its last legs before it becomes a thing of the past. TL:DR - I'd rather remember the games when they were good, rather than letting Konami put the IP in a bad stop with shameless cashgrabs and garbage story (The concept of Metal Gear Survive is laughable and has nothing to do with Metal Gear, the only reason why it is called Metal Gear is because they can, and in an attempt to lure lesser informed people to purchase the game because they have heard ''Metal Gear'' games are good. Had Metal Gear Survive been a completely new IP and a new name, I wouldn't mind it, heck.. I'd even probably buy it since of the Fox Engine, but I see the cheap and dirty tricks of Konami and I refuse to encourage this type of behavior.) # FucKonami

[@obloke3366]

playing as the boss would be awesome

[@gengshowisgood]

No one ever talks about Rising, to an extent that satisfies me. The 2010 version had striking potential and it legitimately surprises me that the team couldn't figure out how to make it fun. Over the years I've thought of so many ways that it could have been done and most of my ideas, I came up with pretty quickly after playing MGR. the thing that bothers me most, is just how much better it looks. Not only was it in the FOX engine, but the combat and all animations looked leagues better than the Platinum product.

[@LINKchris87]

I absolutely LOVE MGS2, but I'd like to play the one Kojima initially conceived. Final showdown at Wall Street with Snake fighting Ocelot and Raiden fighting Solidus? Sign me in.

[@ALitleBitSpecial]

I never knew Yoko Ono also goes by the name Hideo Kojima, so much now makes sense.

[@MBW0127]

Please expand your channel. This is amazing

[@v-trigger6137]

What The Voice Bro AWESOME!!!!

[@joshuaedler7041]

Well time to throw my plans for today out the window! Time to replay the mgs series!

[@Muramasa1794]

Another awesome analysis. Metal Gear Solid is one of my favorite games and I still remember playing and beating MGS2 on hard all the way at the age of 10 lol. This channel deserves more subscribers

[@destinydesirene]

Very professional presentation

[@EXHellfire]

I think everybody wants that game starring The Boss and her Cobra Unit in Normandy

[@MrJJuK]

I'd love a remastered version of MSG1, spent half my childhood fucking around with it on European extreme. Using a battery to get through the torture scene.

[@HUNKThe4thSurvivor]

try out mgs integral, its as close as you'll get to a remastered mgs 1 imo www.reddit.com/r/metalgearsolid/comments/4qlv1c/final_full_release_metal_gear_solid_1_integral_pc/?st=jc659chl&sh=36a5b437

[@danhughesartist]

Twin Snakes on GameCube...?

[@HUNKThe4thSurvivor]

yeah that aswell

[@HUNKThe4thSurvivor]

however i like the music but the va's sound bored unlike the original game sadly :(

[@HUNKThe4thSurvivor]

and integral comes with VR mode, unlike tts

[@johncarlogamboa7331]

I see Metal Gear, I click like. I smell Metal Gear, I subscribe. Thank you.

[@ignaciogabler2073]

this channel is gorgeous! Greetings from Chile!

[@Andriy_Doc]

Nice video! Two side notes can be made, though: - Regarding the MGS2 Mantis Mask and seemingly cut ability to "read minds and thoughts" -- it's actually sort of in the game! Only it works the reverse way and allows you to hear Snake's/Raiden's thoughts instead. During codec dialogues just hold R1/RB/Weapon Select button to hear the protagonist's positive inner thought (like "Exactly!" Or "That's so cute I can't bear it..") -- or hold L1/LB/Item Select button to hear the negative thought (like "Definitely not!" or "Get real!"). Works on Every. Single. Codec. Dialogue !!! - Regarding the cut multiplayer PvP battle mode from MGS2. That mode actually got implemented for the Game Boy Color port -- Metal Gear: Ghost Babel (aka Metal Gear Solid GBC). Worked via GBC's Direct Link feature and let two players confront each other in VR as regular and red-colored versions of Solid Snake. With the modern era of widespread emulators I bet you can find a way to experience that mode if interested. Also, similar PvP modes are available in PSP game titles MGS Portable Ops and MGS Peace Walker. Again, can be emulated and enjoyed if you have friends dedicated enough :) I wonder how many elements of the cancelled MGS2 multiplayer PvP have made it into those modes...

[@joejo6969]

Holy shit, I never thought about a MGS in WW2. That would be amazing. Let's hope someday Kojima and Konami team up again

[@Memnoch_the_Devil]

VERY interesting and informative. The one concept that got me excited was The Boss in an open world Normandy. Oh my god with WW2 weapons!! That would've been so awesome. I already opt to use Christopher Nolans score for Dunkirk when playing MGSV. Kojima doing a WW2 game would've been a dream come true. That's part of the reason Death Stranding has so many people excited

[@Hoonters-goona-Hoont]

*Hears White Blood as background song* *instantly likes*

[@mortymcdickface3171]

Where can i find the first background music track? Thanks in advance 😁🤙🏽👍🏽

[@nonesuchone]

As a lifelong MGS fan, I just wanna say that this was great, and thank you for doing this bat-shit-crazy yet unfathomably deep and meaningful series some justice. TL;DR You’re pretty good 👍🏼

[@Alexrocks1253]

A MGS game starting The Boss would be so badass!

[@beetay2732]

Love the work you guys do, it's so professional and amazing. Subbed. Perhaps a look at the Zelda series one day :)

[@jackbamm]

Feel like the title is a bit misleading. It shows 1 cancelled MGS game, and the rest were either concepts or games that were changed. It's more a history of cancelled (or altered) MGS concepts.

[@KozibearLive]

In fact, I originally wanted to call the video something along those lines; I wanted to call it "The History and Legacy of Cancelled Metal Gear Solid Games and Concepts/Ideas." Ultimately, the director on the video chose to go with the title you see above - which is understandable, as it is much less wordier - however if I would have had my way I would have kept my original idea for the title. However, we'll definitely consider this feedback when naming our videos in the future.

[@KozibearLive]

After considering your and other people's feedback, we decided to change the video's title to reflect this.

[@jackbamm]

Right on, that's some good response. Don't get me wrong, the video is perfectly fine. But being a relatively avid MGS fan, the title really got me hyped up for a second, as I had no idea there were enough cancelled MGS games to warrant a 20 minute video. Other than the initial confusion, the video was remarkably well written and pace, well done.

[@jackbamm]

Hey man that's really cool. That got done very quickly.

[@MyJourneyConcludes]

Holy Crap! A youtube channel that actually listens to feedback. *SLOW CLAP*

[@YasonYou]

It is so sad that Metal Gear Survive is not on this list :'(

[@aesthetic_apples888]

We'll never get Metal Gear Solid: Rising, or MGR's Gray Fox sequel, or my personal fav, The Boss' WW2 years. Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

[@BinBintheRiceCake]

What a thrill A new notification in the darkness of the night