A Honda Rebel is better than any Chinese 250cc Motorcycle. And I can prove it.

[@yammienoob]

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[@ericcastle9416]

When's thr Aprillia give away?

[@SHSPVR]

Dear Yammie Noob do not user Kelly Blue Book lean to read which state (When purchasing from a dealer) used J.D. Power for Motorcycle the right price Average Retail $1010

[@IVIrIllusion]

The people at Venom motorsports have regretted their decision trying to reach out to Yam every time he uploads 😂

[@joaohugo92]

Good, fuck them they tried to buy Papa Yam like he was some sell out propaganda bullshitter but Papa ain't no Chinesecompany's bitch and I respect him for that, as I am sure other's do too.

[@metalmoto3275]

All they had to do was tell him to only say good things about the bike and that was their biggest mistake

[@karoustarwind8408]

Im weak afff

[@pl7868]

I,m pushing 70 been riding almost that long an seriously thinking of a rebel for a basket trip , speeding around is behind me , the rebel is lite with a short seat height , i'm six foot i can sit on it an hold my hand down an touch the ground , if it falls over i'm already on the ground before it even fell over , good fuel millage and steel frame can weld anything you want for racks an stuff , if it breaks down call the local lawnmower place where ever you are tell them to fix it an get a cheap room with whisky an google a happy ending to help you drink it , i'm calling that bike a win for the older man wants to travel an never get a speeding ticket 🙂

[@klausknudsen106]

That boom racing, is properly the best purchase you have ever made, sure its a shit bike, but all the content you get from that thing, is a big win ;)

[@wesleyedwards2764]

If Hitler had a motorcycle... Boom!

[@williambibbs4705]

Comparing the boom to the legendary gxsr 250 would have been far more impactful

[@williamcb78]

😂😂😂😂😂👍🏻

[@stevec6427]

I think the GSXR125 might beat the Boom.

[@Kjamilex]

Yeah, imagine a video where the gsxr isn't the laughstock.

[@Dannyvirk]

I just spent US$1200 on a CBR250R MC-19, so much fun

[@Domitianvs]

Hell, they could even do a comparison on which goes it with more style when subjected to a flame thrower.

[@AllboroLCD]

With a 28t rear sprocket, ive gotten my Nighthawk 250 the rebs cousin well over 80mph with rpms to spare! Its the cam and the gearing that has the reb 250 perform like a cement truck. Swap the sprockets and have a regrind done to get the cam a bit hotter, and the bike will start feeling like a 250 properly should.

[@mattsengstock2985]

If this was the only motorcycle available we'd all be riding them with huge smiles on our faces.

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

Theyre very capable bikes theres no doubt. Not fast but that is a nimble unit. Theres a reason they had people who never rode motorcycles before and in only about a day they are doing 360 and 180s in the space of about two parking spaces and they do it on these things. My msf was on some old 150 and half the class was these rebels also and its wild how harcore of an emergency swerve you can do on these things

[@diegoleiva7242]

I'm surprised by the slow 0-60 time on both these bikes! I own a modest 2012 CBR250R and even with it's single cylinder engine and alledged 25 HP (doubt it) it does 0-60 in about 8 seconds. I guess that could be down to the gearbox, mine's a 6 speed and I imagine it's got closer ratios than the Rebel and the Chinese deathtrap. It also tops out at around 95 MPH but that's aero related for sure.

[@XV250]

Have you verified those numbers with GPS? If the speedometer claims 95, it's probably optimistic by several miles per hour. To be fair you're comparing apples against oranges; a liquid-cooled modern design against an air-cooled motor and transmission designed almost 40 years ago.

[@tysonrinker5958]

I love my rebel it was my first bike and I’m going to keep it as long as I can

[@theorthobiker]

No, not the last nail. You should totally race the Chinese bike on the track, but have him on the Rebel and you on the Chinese bike so you can get his feedback on the rebel by comparison after having had to ride the Chinese death machine on the track XD

[@ATEC101]

Yes!

[@heritagehillsecurity8778]

Putting a steel braided brake line for the front would really increase the feel. The Honda Rebel was built to last. What do you think about seat comfort on the Rebel 250? Thank you.

[@got2kittys]

They are really great at being transportation. If you want fast, get a sportbike. Dirt rider? Get a dual sport, or full dirtbike. You want a big cruiser, get a Goldwing. Those things are reliable, and are great transportation. Honda build quality, a good standard transportation bike. The 250 Ninja is lots Funner, lol.

[@haroldmaynor9161]

I'VE PUT 50K ON MINE, I HAVE GROUND THE FOOTPEG MOUNTING BOLTS TO A HARSH SLOPE BACK TO THE FRAME. IT IS BY FAR MY FAVORITE AS A 30 MINUTE COMMUTER. IF YOU RUN PIRELLIS AND IT WILL STICK TILL YOU GROUND THE FRAME.

[@keithsmith9889]

Honestly that was a great comparison 👏 with rational sound advice. And thanks cause I have looked at tons of knock off Chinese bikes thinking it can't be that bad. But at that price makes much more sense to just take my money to royal enfield instead

[@johndriskell4081]

Not a sound comparison because not all Chinese motorcycle were tested. Why didn't he it against a Benelli, Lifan , or CFMoto motorcycle(s)? They are all Chinese made.

[@keithsmith9889]

If you say so.. hear is a prime example of what you might get. My personal advice would be buy a harley. Not cause I'm a fan boy because it's literally the only manufacturer who has nation wide service. Good luck trying to find anyone who stocks Lifan parts

[@anthonyray7962]

I picked up a 87 rebel 250 for 700$ only had 480 miles on it . I love the little bike I have more fun on it then I do my r6

[@Electrajim]

What to do with the Boom? Take out the oil plug, leave it out… Ride it ‘till it goes “boom”. Just do some kind of “engine blow” video.

[@TRathOriginals]

The fine folks at Venom must be thrilled after offering to buy one positive review, not having to pay, and seeing you get a month's worth of content out of their "motorcycle". (I'm assuming that they re-released all of these in China with glowing praise dubbed in.)

[@cuppa_coffee_nyc]

I got a used 250 cc Dong Fang Ghost motorcycle last year as my first motorcycle. Great motorcycle to learn on. Great in the city. Sleek looking. However it's it's impossibile to find parts for. No mechanic wants to work on it. When sometime breaks it takes weeks fof a simple fix. Looking to upgrade to a Rebel. Something light weight and reliable

[@conniegamble8306]

Yam u gotta compare the boom 250 to a a 300cc scooter 🤣🤣 I have a kymco x town 300 scooter I think it'll out preform the boom in every way

[@HFVidShotz]

I'ma get me a Rebel 2fity. Thanks Yammie!

[@GlenMones-le6yf]

I agree the rebel is a great bike for what it's designed.. a starter bike.. a small commuter bike around the city.. for a student to bop around campus on from class to class. Don't forget a lot of people are buying these little scooters and I think they'd be better served by buying a rebel and save some money too over a new scooter... Especially a crappy Chinese scooter.... I only Yamaha Royal Star 1300 the windshield saddlebags I love it for cruising on the highways and riding..BUT to run to the grocery store I have to muscle this 800 lb machine Fred Flintstone style back it out of the garage then back at sideways in the driveway so I can pull out.. it would be nice to have a little rebel to run to the grocery store on and take a little ride around town..

[@Zander10102]

Do the dyno tests!

[@EvendimataE]

i would choose a $2.5k used japanese bike..than a brand new $2k chineeeeese bike

[@nathanpottle3873]

My first bike is a 2000 Honda rebel 250 and I agree it is a great starter bike

[@honda200twinstar3]

Hey Yammi is it ? iv got a suggestion ..how about doing a comparison between your little Reble 250 and compaire it to the Kymco Venox 250 ,id love to hear your thoughts ,what ya thinks ,and do the same tests your doing here as well as looks, comfort , the Venox has 28 hourse power and its has 19 torque.I tell ya i do not know why the Kymco Venox didnt do well in North Amarica. and the little Reble did so well for so long.

[@toddwebb7521]

Now we need a final round with a Vstar 250 and a Gixxer 250 to see if boom beats anything at all

[@bloodbath91n]

I daily a 2013 V star 250 and while it’s not a performance machine it only had 1300 miles and it’s a great bike as far as Maintenance and it’s nice to have a genuine made in Japan bike vs Chinese trash

[@JMoroccoMisterBoy]

A Honda Rebel is very utilitarian in the Larger Metropolitan Cities on this planet. Tks. much.

[@daveplem]

I’ll bet Yammi does go full tuck… when wearing his bathing suit from Target!

[@paulvelez9688]

“I have a great idea. We’ll send yammie noob a free bike and make him sign a contract to only say nice things”. “…oh…”.

[@josephbishop3231]

If that knock-off Honda 230cc engine is built to spec with reasonably quality materials it should be very sturdy that said everything else on the bike might fall apart

[@xaranlama8125]

PAPA YAMS Plz do a full video on garage tour

[@natanpierce495]

Sweeeet. My wife started out with a pretty candy apple Rebel. A very sweet bike. She outgrew it kind of fast.

[@TheMaskedheel]

Obviously it's better good luck finding one under 4k. I went on cycle trader and found 70 nation wide all years. Went on motohunt and saw about the same. So price and availability not there.

[@shonmacklin9613]

The price went up drastically after the Pandemic

[@TheMaskedheel]

@@shonmacklin9613 Absolutely true. These China bikes were also about 1/3 cheaper

[@greatbigeye2506]

And check out that rear fender, I’d leave it mostly stock.

[@logancrouse6030]

Can't wait to see this on the track

[@ruquik]

That Revel deff has a sprocket swap.

[@TconGrom]

Papa yam! Review pitster pro/GPX moto bikes!

[@oscardominguez1680]

Would be cool to race the Rebel 250 against a high revving european bike like a SVARTPILEN 125 or Yamaha R125

[@WolfyFam]

It’s a very lovely bike too pal 👌🤜

[@flatbill2]

I have a Venom x22r Max. It is a good little bike, gets me up to freeway speeds no issue, I get 80mpg. It cost me $3300. I don't have $5000 for a new Rebel.

[@wesleyedwards2764]

Sorry dude. I'd rather walk. There are tons of better bikes on the used market for less money. You can literally close your eyes and pick one. Trade that thing off and see what you are missing.

[@timothymidkiff2894]

I ride a shadow spirit 1100. I'm not parting with my 05 rebel 250 it's awesome too.

[@JETBLACKPRIEST]

Heard anything from venom about these videos since they offered to send you one?

[@timothybayliss6680]

I bought a cbr125 for $500 with 8k miles on it. Its not even close

[@peterwilson8039]

Proving it better than ONE Chinese motorcycle is not the same as proving it better than ANY Chinese motorcycle. Global economics do give an advantage to Chinese. The two markets of China and India are by far the largest motorcycle markets in the world, and together, in terms of dollar value, the Indian market is about 8 times larger, and the Chinese market is about 6 times larger than the North American market. The Chinese are poised to dominate - probably not with the Boom though, and maybe not at all in the U.S. where small displacement motorcycles are a tiny part of the market. However Harley Davidson is now importing Chinese bikes.

[@peterwilson8039]

Rather than saying the Chinese are poised to dominate, I should really say that the Chinese industry is poised to grow very quickly and to start being significant in international markets, much as has already happened with the industry in India.

[@69nites]

There are already great Chinese options. GPX dual sports are legitimately competing in their class with options from KTM and wash Japanese options. They however are not cheap.

[@OLICIT]

Was that a Wahoo ELEMNT Bolt bicycle computer or a specific motorbike computer?

[@yammienoob]

Bicycle computer! I use it on my Specialized SL6

[@danielho5635]

Because of Truth in Advertising Laws, the Venom BD250 has been renamed "Wuss Joker Widow Maker 250".

[@gagebmx3659]

The rebel sounds like a leaf blower

[@frederickjeremy]

Pappa yams i need help. I need your thoughts on the honda xr150l. Price is too good to be true, it has honda written on it, but im reading something about it being a honda/ chinese/mexican built conglomerate? Would love to hear your thoughts as the specs are perfect for my wife wishing to learn motorcycles.

[@charliepark3084]

I have a 2004 Nighthawk 250, and I'm pretty sure it has the same engine as this bike, but is there a difference between the two?

[@dbnzone4845]

I found one 1997 model with 48.000 km does it have a lot of miles for price 1200 ?

[@Xt1000]

It wasn't long ago I seen you and your buddy bashing the Rebel 250. Smh.

[@DEARERFOB771]

honda rebels are some of the best motorcycles tbh

[@PudinMeUp]

Finally something positive about the rebel 250 on this channel

[@nelson820032003]

I got my 2003 rebel 250 3 months ago as my first bike ever. I paid $1500 for it and it’s been great as a learner bike for sure. I drive it about 30 miles each day and it’s fun, not the fastest but I don’t need to got more than 60mph so it’s perfect. I’m gonna keep it for this riding season and might get a bigger one next year. I love my rebel so far 🙌🏽👌🏽

[@nelson820032003]

Oh they are so easy to work on! I’ve done multiple services on it and I had never work on a bike before only car. For the first time in my life I’ve finally learned how to rebuild a carburetor and it was a good experience and bike runs even better now!

[@seanmcgivney7631]

I am 59 years-old. I have found that the 250 cc class,whether motorcycle or scooter propels me down the road just fine.

[@timothyprice9064]

You Might decide to keep it. It's always fun to ride around the neighborhood and backroads. Or make it into a bobber.

[@timothyprice9064]

If you can, you might want to keep it when you get a bigger bike. For me it will always remain a fun back roads bike.

[@dawnlightgaming6449]

The vales are EASY af on this bike too, or any other 250cc old-style cruiser for that matter. Literally just a couple more steps compared to doing the adjustments on a chinese 50cc moped. Loved my Rebel, it was much easier to maintain than my Ninja 250R. Though that fucker was so much more fun to ride, but the valves were hard af and required taking the bike completely apart.

[@vvelazquez79]

[Honda Rebel 250] "It's better than walking!" - Yammie Noob 10:05 😂

[@centralcal6604]

😂

[@Gideon_Judges6]

Today on YN, Yammie revisits all the nostalgia of the MSF course.

[@jakeedgell591]

I ended doing the msf on a tw200 because all the rebels got taken

[@tannerking3084]

​@@jakeedgell591 Same here. Those figure 8s were so easy on that bike

[@adamlanglois563]

Up in Canada they usually use older CBR125r. Probably better than the boom as well

[@heritagehillsecurity8778]

How is the seat comfort on Rebel 250? Thank you.

[@illuminat4838]

I will say my MSF we used Harley street 500s

[@williamcb78]

When you’re saying things like “performance “ towards a rebel 250 you know the Chinese bike is pants ! 🤣🤣

[@cobramike9538]

The Rebel 250 was one of my first bikes. I never sold even though I rarely ride it anymore. It's cheap backup transportation that consistently gets 75mpg.

[@elchupacabra1193]

Generally the people who are going to tell you something like a Rebel "rides bad" are so engrossed in their own motorcycle or style of motorcycle they can't comprehend the value of a motorcycle outside of their style. Such as sport bike only people will never grasp the value of a cruiser and just always think it is a slow tractor of a bike and terrible. Those same people tell you that standard bikes are bad as well when the very bar for the value of all motorcycles is the standard motorcycle. So I really appreciate your input on a bike like the Rebel 250. I think it shows alot more experience across the multitude of styles of motorcycles.

[@wesleyedwards2764]

I was glad to see the Rebel 250 make a comeback. It ain't much, but it ain't a Chinese bastardization of someone else's work. It did get a pretty harsh review for what it is. You can pretty much evaluate the bike in a glance. I bought an '85 Rebel while in college. I somehow had the $600 on hand. Tried to teach a few friends to ride it. My roommate Earl brought it back and laid it over on the ground just like a kid would a BMX bike at the ball park. It was in gear and running. Facepalm. My friend Tim got whiskey throttle and rode it into the side of an appartment complex. Always the bike was running. They are tanks. I have an adult friend who wants to learn to ride and I'm not suggesting any 250cc bikes. I think a "mature" but new rider needs a bike that can at least throttle out of trouble a little. You want something that excites you a little to ride. Something like an old ninja 500. Maybe an older Japanese inline 4 or v twin cruiser in the 600cc range. I got blown around on roads a few times by Semi trucks on the Rebel. I mostly used it to park by the bike racks at UA. It was nice for casual rides on county roads. I liked to do power slides on dirt roads and feel the rear step out. It was easily controllable. The bike will forgive you if you are an absolute hooligan. It just doesn't have enough power to really hurt you. I bet the interior parts of the Boomer engine look like cheap HF parts too compared to the Honda. Really, Honda could have just increased the displacement 100ccs and it would have been 3x better. Everything else was a bit overbuilt for the engine. I didn't like the chrome battery box at first, but I grew to love it. I thought it made it look more like a Harley moped. I couldn't have one without swapping to the chrome battery box.

[@aidenmornay]

A lot of riders will buy a Chinese bike, wasting hard earned cash, believing the lies about specs etc

[@ZeeZaac]

I could probably buy the rebel for less than the Chinese bike.

[@evilmessiah81]

yes, but that bike ist 25 years old, compare it to a price of a new bike

[@basmca1]

​@@evilmessiah81 Honestly the Honda will probably still run fine in 10 years, the Boom not so much...

[@polloman15]

250cc Japanese bikes are quite good, I have a V-star 250 and I’ve added like 10,000 miles to the clock, pretty nice :)

[@inokstinger9041]

Papa yam, this is considered one of the fastest bikes in Africa Uganda, in fact I own one cb250 night hawk en I use it extreme offroad, en t handles great 😂

[@adamguzzo94]

Wait till you ride a magna..

[@tysonrinker5958]

I bought my rebel for 500 dollars . It was very clean but wouldn’t start. Cleaned the carb out a new battery started right up runs great

[@donniesanders3780]

I've got a rebel I'm selling that's got 146 miles on it my wife got it new old stock and we just use it to introduce new riders it's got perfect paint and no miles I'm trying to get 1500 and every body here in Texas is like psshhhh 200 bucks and it's almost excellent condition it gets it's oil changed and services just doesn't get rode much lol

[@kennethanway7979]

If I was near you, I'd buy it in an instant!

[@Powerslide15]

I spent $400 on my 2001 rebel. It was running just fine, but I replaced some parts just in case. I'm into it about $1,500 and about $500 of that is cosmetic.

[@basmca1]

How is rebel 10% lighter than the Boom lmao? Wtf is that Boom made of, solid steel tubes?

[@corrosionoc69]

He'll excuse the honda's brakes but won't take into account that someone could have just done a shit job at assembling the Chinese bike. It's not like no one has ever bought a new lemon, even one from Honda. Maybe the person that buys the chinese bike just wants a NEW bike with those looks that they can afford.

[@purple9969]

Also I’ll take that clobbered Chinese bike for a starter bike anytime, I’m only a little desperate to win something 😂

[@ruiner88]

Before watching this video, I'm so interested in this test, because I just picked up a 2000 Suzuki Marauder 250, and while it is hilariously slow, I think it beats the tests you put the BD250 through in your video a couple weeks ago XD

[@StardustADV]

There is one good quality about the boom... only one. Its a living meme now. Thats it... Thats all its good for...

[@adamdelarozza1985]

18" Front Wheel & 15" Rear wheel, the Rebel borrowed the original Big Wheel Design and that's why this lil bike is so flickable with outstanding front wheel tracking. My 2015 Rubidium Red, Honda Rebel is a beauty and sports more chrome & candy Red paint than the 'modern' bikes. It's a keeper and i bet will be collectible and hold its value because its a Honda.

[@rocketfludy2873]

Thats scary how slow these bikes are, modern 4 stroke 125s are quicker lol

[@leebirdsall2174]

Loved both my Rebels, I'd buy another to use as my daily commuter.

[@takumisato7126]

With the cost of gas, a rebel 250 would be an awesome commuter for the summer

[@Foodgeek]

Maybe I should turn trade my rebel 1100 for a rebel 250. Any takers? 😂

[@stevebell4906]

Where are you at?

[@craigklein5563]

Comparing a cruiser with a sport style bike doesn't make any sense to me.

[@99891b]

i did, i bought a 2012 rebel 250. Not a scratch. Absolutely perfect. I will learn to ride it then sell it and ride the absolutely perfect 2012 dyna wide glide i got in my garage. Rode the Harley once. I'm 250 pounds and 5 ft 11. and with no skills could not handle it. Took you advise and got the 250 the next day. A MUCH happier camper.

[@foggy561]

It's apples and oranges. New vs old. Huge difference in price brand new. That being said of course Japanese bikes are better quality all the way around. Sometimes people just want something new rather than buying someone else's headache. I don't judge either way as long as they are on 2 wheels I'm happy

[@GoranVarg]

Chinese spy spotted!

[@Perry_dAccard]

Never trust a bike who's name is a noise you don't want to hear from it. - "Unkie" Phil Waters

[@Happyfacehotwheels]

At 12:25, the Honda motor is a 234cc twin if I remember correctly.

[@mixxerwolf4856]

I rode this at the msf course

[@stevekraynik2991]

People are buying the Chinese bikes because they don't know better or they put it on a credit card and make payments on it over months or years. I guess you could find a dealer with a Rebel 250 and try to finance it or put it on a credit card. The Rebel will easily win in resale value as well.

[@Dontgetenslaved]

Payment for my rebel 250 was $75 a month from the dealer.

[@cb175s]

A named brand anything is better than any china stuff . 😆

[@duncanwilson9020]

I rode a rebel 250 at motorcycle School and being 6'3" I had to sit on the passenger seat to fit

[@wesleyedwards2764]

It's about right for a 5'2" woman. I'm nearly 6'2" and was always a little cramped.

[@pdutube]

It's charming to think that Boom offered Yam a free bike with a stipulation that nothing negative could be said about it. So, how's that working out Boom? LOL

[@phil4986]

🤣👍👍

[@JGreen-le8xx]

You have to prove a Honda Rebel 250 is better than a chinese bike? Anyone who knows anything about bikes KNOWS it's better PERIOD.

[@Friscorockhead]

Seriously. The Honda Rebel 250 is one of the most reliable bikes ever made. It's a cheap beginner bike but it's still a Honda. Anyone who thinks a Chinese bike is better than a Honda is a fool.

[@JGreen-le8xx]

@@Friscorockhead The Honda 250 as much as people like to put it down is legendary. That parallel twin is as reliable as a sledgehammer and any kid working at McDonalds could own one. The fact that Honda made it in the 80s clear into the 2000s is a testament to ultra cheap and ultra reliable transportation.

[@Friscorockhead]

@@JGreen-le8xx exactly. By the 80s Honda was completely dialed in for quality and reliability, especially for these low compression engines. My wife had a 1986 rebel that was running like new 25 years later. We sold it to a friend and they've had nothing but trouble-free fun with it. So many people learned to ride on a Rebel 250...it's a significant bike in the history of motorcycling. Nothing beats high quality engineering and manufacturing, and Honda has had that for decades. Chinese bikes have their place but I'd always lean towards a used Honda over a new Chinese bike.

[@propdoctor21564]

Excellent video and I'm not surprised at the results because as you stated it's a Honda. 😁👍

[@HeffyMatrix]

I'm literally looking at this exact model Rebel 250 for my first bike, thank you for this video! :) I really want a Rebel 500 but I might start out with this 250 just to throw around for a year or 2 while I save for the 500!

[@jamesjohnson5328]

Start with the 500 you will outgrow the 250 in a matter of weeks

[@ZediMaster]

Gr8 comparison, gr8 analysis...😂😂😂

[@luisangelrocktv]

In mexico there is a chinesse brand named dinamo, it had a model the renegade 250 what is just s copy oaste of the honda engine

[@joetheagent]

Love this. Can't wait to see the "Finale" of the Chinese bike saga. I completely agree that SOME people go way too hard on the classic small displacement bikes. They really do have their purpose... but that purpose was never meant to be carting a giant yeti of a human down a Texas highway at 80mph. (I don't mean you, Yam... just that average Americans do tend to be large). Dollar for dollar though you can't beat a used Japanese small displacement bike... you are riding a decent motorcycle from a reputable manufacturer in 2023 for about 2 or 3 grand.... we live in peak beginner bike time.

[@felonebike9859]

Just got a 2003 Rebel for an old 6hp outboard and a pair of western boots. Best part is the bike only has 7800 miles

[@thetabelingfamily2611]

You still need to race them against each other on track 😂

[@bhouse92101]

"It's better than walkin'"!!! What every beginner rider wants to hear about their new bike...

[@phil4986]

Outstanding comparison. Done with actual performance measurements. I expect Boom to send Yammie a free motorcycle in box with no stipulations that has a KTM 390 engine marked as a Boom 250 engine next.

[@TheHaiku2]

Don't ever sleep on the 250 Rebel. It's a beautiful classically styled motorcycle that will last longer than you! If you're looking for a budget commuter bike, this is it.

[@lasskinn474]

honda rebel(not 150) is like 2x the price in southeast asia of a chinese 230, so it kinda should be better. still dunno why they don't just sell the chinese bikes as what they are in usa, sell 'em cheap. but then again the 150 segment to which they fit (with their 230 being as capable as a japanese 150 and costing roughly same) doesn't exist in usa.

[@Happyfacehotwheels]

I want to get a Honda rebel for cheep and make a dirt bike out of it.