A Kamehameha and Final Flash struggle w/ both PoV

[@AfroHayot]

Thank god this game is still alive.

[@macdaddymario]

@s cee It's amazing how much you got wrong... Every time someone has asked about donations (the paypal you talk about) we're very open about it. We removed donations when BFP was hit with a C&D from Funimation. Which was in the mid 2000's. Paypal been gone *WAY* longer than the 2013 you seem to think, big boy. Try closer to 2006. Next, I never acted confused about anything. You asked what happened to the moddb page, and we were not ready to give a response as a team. You're not going to get insider information, that's not how it works.. and you're especially not going to get it from me. We then later flat out explained the situation, in a statement from the team. The moddb administrator was hit with a takedown notice, from the legal desk of Toei Animation. Not some "it just vanished" conspiracy theory. Showing factually that the rights holders of the source material did *not* want to work with us, this includes Bandai, as they are bound to Toei Animation's decisions. We had no call in that page coming down. The last thing I'm going to address in this... eyesore, is this idea that we added more effects. We don't add effects. We *HAVE* altered effects, but we don't just add new ones. Even if we had, our FX artist is not a coder... what he does, has no bearing on the *one* coder that we have, and have been very open about having. We could add a new effect every day for the next year, and that wouldn't do a thing to slow down coding. It's a shame you clearly understand so little about specific jobs in game development teams. You were banned for CLEARLY ignoring all these points, as we brought them to you in every argument you wanted to make, and it's clear you still didn't read any of them because they don't fit the narrative that you want. I legit feel bad for you, that you can be told bluntly so many times, and still not understand anything of which you're being told.

[@buddybarlow9604]

@@macdaddymario Sooo what is the status on ESF?

[@randomm065]

I've been watching these guys work on this for years and I can't praise them enough with all the hard work they do for this project. The amount of detail is insane with the combat to beam struggles and even the little details like goku being out of breath from having low ki. Thank you continuing to make this game, you guys are the best.

[@ESForces]

He was actually breathing like that because he ran himself out of stamina pushing everything he had into the struggle, but thank you so much for the kind words!

[@randomm065]

@@ESForces that's really cool and no problem.

[@ntuk0035]

And people use to think dragon ball unreal could compete with this game

[@randomm065]

Yeah I never understood that.

[@GoldenB59]

Just A Chocolate Bar they thought that?

[@macdaddymario]

@@GoldenB59 A lot of people had at one point or another. Meanwhile, some of our devs are in the DBU discord, likewise Emud (DBU dev) was in ours. Never really saw each other as competition as he originally wasn't trying to make ESF Unreal.

[@emudshit]

@@macdaddymario exact lol

[@blankblank1257]

@@emudshit yours made better progress

[@ESForces]

To everyone that's going to ask: we don't have a release window. We have one active coder right now, and there's plenty of bugs to fix. We would love to release it, but doing it now would just cause more harm than good. We just added a new FX artist who is learning the systems we use and is doing his best to pump out missing effects while macdaddymario is busy tinkering away at trying to find a balance for our characters with the other testers. If we were to release a beta, that would mean the coder would need to stop working on what he's doing, and spend additional months separating code to make a 'demo' build, which would leave the game without any coder working on finishing it at all till that was done. So we can't do that. Which is why, if anyone sees this that *is proficient* in C++, we encourage you to head over to our discord and let us know you're interested in helping!

[@Sir_Duckyweather]

“Anything worth doing, is worth doing right.”

[@ESForces]

@@Sir_Duckyweather Thank you for your understanding. We know it's been a long time coming and we do apologize for that. But we aren't an official team, we can't make money from this, and our team members have come and gone over the years because real-life obligations just end up taking priority... like a paying job. We do still work on this, even if it's just macdaddymario pushing out balance tweaks, or a small effect change here and there or when our coder has for sure fixed a problem. We just need more coders and are just doing what we can do, at the pace we can manage.

[@AlanCturk1992]

Looking better every time! Can’t wait!

[@ESForces]

@theeternalwisdom No, we don't accept them. Gotta go back a ways but, ESF wasn't the only big boi DBZ mod around back in the early 2000's. Today, you also have Emud who works on Dragon Ball Unreal... but back then you also had Bid For Power. We at that time, offered donations (in exchange for a specific section on our forum where we'd post extra content) but never asked for it, the BFP team however made it obvious that they took donations, and were shortly there after hit with a cease and desist from Funimation. From that moment on, ESF has never taken a single dime for anything we've done.

[@GoYouGoME]

Take your guys' time, I've been waiting since 2008 and I'm still patient though slightly anxious. Just please make Frieza amazing!!

[@johnathan9625]

Honestly don't know why so many people complain about the wait like they are entitled to the game. You guys are doing an amazing job!

[@macdaddymario]

You deserve a heart, and I'm going to personally apply it.

[@blankblank1257]

It's because people have lived and died waiting over what? 20 years for the full release? I'd be pissed too but I damn near forgot this existed till today

[@dalte89]

@@macdaddymario WHY DONT U FUCKING MARRY HIM THEN

[@CHEYMIX]

ayyyyy nice. looks really good. yall've really been busting ass on those collision physics. ill spread the word for you guys via twitter to look for coders

[@DJDaConqueror]

The dream is still alive

[@ESForces]

As long as we have access to the game files, I'll constantly work to get it done, and constantly search for people that can help us to get there!

[@DJDaConqueror]

Earth's Special Forces Bet 🔥

[@Shaladanra]

Very nice! Can't wait to try it out for myself!

[@johanrodriguez9162]

I've been waiting so long for this game.. but at the end it doesn't matter, i'll be playing since its fully released. Keep working, its gonna be a awesome game!

[@hollow8077]

you guys are alive, that makes me happy keep up the good work, ESF team!

[@Lápiz1988]

I remember at begining of 2004 when i saw on steam esf 1.0 i've been play it more than i've sleep on a year! After 16 years i still watching your job, i hope you will finish your awesome job, not many people can stay focus after more than 10 years with a huge motivation, i try to be honest, i don't want play any game now, but when you finish that, no matter when, i've to try it, thanks!

[@TheAnimatedGamer]

This looks super dope! Lookin forward to other updates in the future

[@ESForces]

We have another trailer planned, we just need some of the code cleaned up to do it. Been waiting for a bit, but it's a nasty bit of code, so macdaddymario and Dragonias decided to put this together instead of make people continue to wait. I think mac has a few more ideas he'd like to put out too if we can't get the struggle beam straightening system set up properly quick enough. xD

[@daeronmcclain3137]

Greato Greato Daze

[@ChildoftheKoRnf9]

Still remember jumping onto pub servers on 1.2.3 and everyone just joining in on some massive struggles that would simply result in half the server dying.

[@macdaddymario]

Hahah! We've *sort* of limited that. You can still multistruggle (we WANTED to show that, but the straightening code isn't done, so the beams get odd Z shapes in them sometimes), but the beams do a set amount of damage now. So you don't need to worry about joining a server, seeing someone shoot a kamehameha and everyone dying because their PL is 1 billion. You also now need to be close enough to the person that started the struggle, to join in. This way you can't join from across the map, out of the danger zone ;)

[@ChildoftheKoRnf9]

@@macdaddymario That actually sounds fun AF regarding the Z line, I think that would be fun to share just to showcase some things folks might not realize happen during development. Not to mention also simply cause its ESF content.

[@macdaddymario]

@@ChildoftheKoRnf9 I have shown an image of it in our discord. Capturing it in a video is a bit more challenging as it just randomly will happen. You need to be at just the right angle, with just the right attacks and everything for it to happen. So being ready to record it at a moments notice is much harder. xD

[@leaandroespamer7565]

7 months of suspense thinking that this had been canceled ... I meet ESF at the age of 3 years old there in 2008, and I always wanted to play it... At the age of 6 I was finally able to play this mod that I loved to be able to play it for the first time... Now I am 14 years old and I have been waiting for this version since 2012, Thank you for all this effort that with motivation and love for this will lead to innovative things that surpass even the games made by Bandai or companies... Good luck with this project that we will soon be enjoying. I'm still playing this mod and I never got bored despite the years... And your community with plugin and addons keeps this game alive, thanks for everything, sorry for so little. PD: sorry for my bad english.

[@johanrodriguez9162]

Lowkey this is going to be the game that resembles most to the actual Dbz series, because of the freedom you're going to have as any of the playable characters ( has a decent amount of fighters btw), great diversity in the super attacks, transformations and big maps. The game has a lot of potential, keep up the good work guys!!

[@80sUnt]

Early Christmas gift? Thanks guys! I'm still hyped for this game!

[@Reganzura]

damn, as always this looks insanely cool

[@okugkurimato8854]

Man i was waiting a video of this channel a long time

[@farguc]

You guys are amazing. I literally grew up on you developing the mod. If only you got licensing, I'd totally pay 60 squid for the game. My favourite HL Mod alongside CS, Naruto Mod(cant remember the name but some of ESF team contributed to it also) and The Hidden.

[@jd030517]

This is sexy keep it up you guys. I’m proud of you all persevering despite the doubt you get from the comment section. I’m looking forward to playing this 🙌🏽

[@macdaddymario]

I'm late on this, but much love from the team man. Thank you!

[@Rolars1]

Looking good! Keep it up!

[@sewertendo]

Cool to see this is still being worked on. Fond memories of playing ESF in middle school.

[@emudshit]

Very awesome work guys, needed some motivation

[@zzombiezz2561]

It's always amazing to see an update on this game 😍😍

[@izzohood7172]

Nice! More of that please!

[@PiPi_AE86]

hope you find more coders, and i have an opinion about the beam struggle fx, there's too much things around the struggle that result very distracting and confusing, i would love if you add an option to deactivate that excesive use of fx and make the beam struggle more visually simple, a little more like in that old hl2 mod dragon ball source, that struggle style was really awesome and simple

[@gamervevo-s8v]

I'm amazed with what you're able to do with the half life engine

[@Sir_Duckyweather]

Beautiful!

[@llawlite3881]

I hope that you will announce the date of the game’s release and complete the work on it because it is a creativity and legendary best Dragon Ball games.

[@ESForces]

We'd love to, if we knew. Feel free to check our description as well as look at our pinned comment for more information regarding our status.

[@daeronmcclain3137]

@@ESForces take as much time you need and be safe

[@erichunt1002]

Awesome! Looks great

[@TheVicarstownSentinel]

I'm honestly amazed at how far ESF has come. It looks absolutely incredible. Is this still running on GoldSource even?

[@macdaddymario]

We still use Goldsrc for our menus as well as our MP back end, to enable steam servers and use their browser, so we don't have to make one ourselves (clearly, we have way more important things to still do...), but the rest of the engine is our own custom. Lighting, physics, rendering... we had to write our own custom model extractors and compilers to get them in the game at the polycount we use... the maps themselves are just one giant model now, with an actual sky atmosphere layer (you can see the sun causing that planet behind Goku to look almost white/blue... but the texture on it is almost a dark purple, because of the fog and everything going on there). Lots of custom work done. We use a form of ray tracing for how we detect our teleportation destinations and if the player can go there or not. Lots of stuff going on under the hood.

[@inventionscreator8875]

@@macdaddymario Preety cool, probably the prettiest hybrid-engine i ever seen,

[@ntuk0035]

to the people who are asking questions about the game. Just join the discord(link in desc)

[@ilyas4070]

u'r still alive !

[@djsoto7]

What good is it to speak well and keep waiting for this game if I have been waiting for 12 years and still have not released it, a real shame, I do not know what to expect, they will never get official licenses, or do they want to live the life of being published these videos without posting the full game. they suck

[@ainurmelkor292]

I have been with you since the beginning of your existence. 16 years have passed since the last version. You would give up showing people what you are doing to get the best mod rewards. everybody knows that the next years will pass and you won't release this mod so many years later.people see they are happy they can write that they believe it will come out but the truth is that they sadly know that they will never be able to play it. The Sad Truth :(

[@etamm1343]

16 years? But 1.3 was in 2009

[@ZENOSAMA-WR]

Que buen juego, cuando van a lanzar la version?

[@ESForces]

Para todos los que van a preguntar: no tenemos una ventana de lanzamiento. Tenemos un codificador activo en este momento, y hay muchos errores que corregir. Nos encantaría lanzarlo, pero hacerlo ahora solo causaría más daño que bien. Acabamos de agregar un nuevo artista de FX que está aprendiendo los sistemas que usamos y está haciendo todo lo posible para bombear los efectos perdidos mientras macdaddymario está ocupado tratando de encontrar un equilibrio para nuestros personajes con los otros probadores. Si lanzáramos una versión beta, eso significaría que el codificador necesitaría dejar de trabajar en lo que está haciendo y pasar meses adicionales separando el código para hacer una compilación 'demo', lo que dejaría el juego sin ningún codificador trabajando en terminarlo en todo hasta que se hizo eso. Entonces no podemos hacer eso. Por eso, si alguien ve esto como experto en C ++, ¡lo alentamos a que se dirija a nuestra discordia y nos haga saber que está interesado en ayudar! Esto fue traducido usando Google, así que lamento mucho si es difícil de entender.

[@fitrome1495]

wait of this since esf 1.0 😂 amazing job

[@FB-ln9pw]

Ojalá salga antes de que ya sea muy mayor para disfrutarlo.

[@sauroman1]

Could you upload more and longer gameplay videos, that's better than not seeing game released for aeons...

[@Binks-sama]

I wait this game since very long time. 😢 But patient will pay😁

[@ESForces]

For what it's worth, we're really sorry it has taken so long. We just, can't get paid for this, so all of our team has real jobs, and some of them leave because they get better ones. The team is always in flux, but we *are* still working as best we can to get it out.

[@Binks-sama]

@@ESForces Before i'm just angry because, you just make video but you don't give demo or something like that but now i understand and take your time 😀

[@Meez_G]

Please have beta this year i want a taste

[@NecromancerGarage]

Maybe add a slightly screen shake while in a beam struggle? From one perspective it's hard to even tell there's a beam struggle happening.

[@ESForces]

Was disabled here. If you go back and look at our older videos, you can see the shake. It's poorly done and needs to be fixed. Figured it better to disable it to show the visuals clean, instead of get people sick with a poor shake cam. 😅

[@Titanusrex1616]

0:51 Goku:I to take it further KAIOKEEEEEEEEEEEN!!!!!!!!! King Kai:No goku!! Goku:Times FOURRRRRR 0:56

[@Tx-993]

Vamoooos que bien lo estoy esperandoo

[@angelramos2660]

Me pregunto cuando va a salir este juego llevo mucho esperandolo

[@DarkMUMY93]

When this game will be available for play😔😔😑

[@CruduL]

Can you guys please answer me to a question?? I m and old player and i know you guys released ESF final first video in 2010, so it is a decade of work from you. I just want to tell youre team are great (all of them), and my question is, you think till 2022 the game will be ready for release??

[@damiansilvi]

Llevo esperando desde los 14 años XD y ya estoy por cumplir 20

[@tomasscarcella4498]

i hope that this game its finished in dicember

[@Why1sThisAthing]

I forgot this existed

[@inventionscreator8875]

Hey Esf guyss, do you know Matias_ESF? He is the greatest esf 1.2.3 modder i ever seen, he seems to love esf, i know that the game engine is a hybrid custom (the poor goldsyrc wouldn't handle all this impressive shadows and bloom), but i think i know Matias behavior and he probably would love to help you, i already tried to learn some amxx an c++ programing but i'm totally lame dudes xD

[@matydj6783]

That's insane

[@TehBunnieh]

Damn, how long has it been, I remember helping out with the most tedious job back then, UV unwraps, as a 13 year old kid using MilkShape 3D back in the earliest 2000's. How times have changed. Has DBU changed? Or did someone take over the name? I remember that being a very early staged startup mod that I helped a friend from Romania(?) create around the year 2001. I remember making a crappy logo for it and doing sprite work. Can't believe how far you guys are pushing the half-life engine after all these years. Then there was this gundam mod I helped out on as well, MechMod I think it was called.

[@AnaseSkyrider]

How do you win a beam struggle? Spam the mouse buttons fast enough? Have more Ki/Stamina? Charge it longer? All of the above?

[@Garda9520]

Stamina

[@macdaddymario]

More like a rhythm game. Closer the center is to you, the less ki you have to pump into the struggle to affect it, sending it back. The further away it gets, the less affect you have. You can burn both ki and stamina. You pump simply by holding left click.

[@AnaseSkyrider]

@@macdaddymario so it's a bit of a balancing act, you can let your ki recharge as the beam gets closer and dump all of it before it gets too close when using that ki is more efficient.

[@macdaddymario]

@@AnaseSkyrider Once you enter the struggle itself, your ki doesn't regenerate. From that point on, it's up to you to decide when is best to push against each beam, based on overall beam strength and distance. This video I needed to push back MUCH sooner than I did in the desert version of this video due to distance being much closer. With the FF being an inherently stronger beam, it takes more ki to counter and push back. So you need to decided when it's best to push based on feeling, not just strictly numbers.

[@chavox2403]

OMFG awesome

[@etamm1343]

The graphics look sick ngl, but the hud isn't my favorite, I hope there is different versions to choose from

[@macdaddymario]

There is a grip of huds. This one is currently the most functional, and the least intrusive, and as such is the one I use. Drag just altered his to match mine for the video's sake.

[@MoneyShifted]

the only actual dragon ball game that we all need kakarot came somewhat close to a good anime game but it lack in certain ways that's hard to explain.

[@rockfather3163]

It was the lack of a authentic combat system like esf or tenkiachi. It seemed kind of lazy and too easy. I couldn't even finish it and I made it close to close the end

[@etamm1343]

Kakarot was so trash couldn't even finish it, I was done after cell saga it was so boring everything always repeated itself its so bad

[@rockfather3163]

@@etamm1343It was solely based off cutscenes in my opinion

[@izzok.5850]

Love it!

[@Oggesson]

Tight.

[@Jeromepw1990]

The Big question is when will I be able to get my hands on this, its everything I need in a dragonball game right now this already looks 10,000 time better compared to Xenoverse

[@DrRhyhm]

Btw after release do you guys ever thought about coding controller support as a patch?

[@Dragonias]

Steam already offers controller support for Esf! You just have to map what else is misisng.

[@Meez_G]

Lit asf he was drained after 🔥🔥🔥

[@rotcev1327]

It’d be even better if this game ever came out lol

[@rainyzack8134]

Is this like the final version of the game or like beta versions? And can you play now

[@marcelotrinidad7998]

y cuando sale?

[@killersagetv6059]

The discord link isn't working

[@ESForces]

Huh... You sure? I just clicked and it took me to the 'continue to discord' page. I'll look into it. Lmk if you get in, in the meantime please. And thank you for letting me know!

[@Dragonias]

That is strange what is your username on Discord? as the link discord.gg/esforces is still in place.

[@killersagetv6059]

My Bad😑 It didn't worked cuz it was connected with a guest account

[@ESForces]

@@killersagetv6059 Glad you got it figured out, thank's Drag!

[@fearror9448]

A release on xbox would be amazing

[@etamm1343]

Never gonna happen, only pc

[@fearror9448]

@@etamm1343 i know but still would be awesome

[@daeronmcclain3137]

Will there be battle damaged version of characters?

[@etamm1343]

No, unless it's a mod

[@Faksnima]

Is your site down? Btw, this is vapor ware. It’s been in the making for nearly 20 years.

[@ZlordHUN]

Why don't you guys set up a patreon or something? Im sure lots of people would be up to donate.

[@ESForces]

There's a reply in our pinned comment that addresses this kinda thing, if you'd like to check it out for an answer to your question. Thank you for taking the time to check out the video, as well as offer a suggestion :)

[@DrRhyhm]

In short: Toei Animation is a cockblock.

[@nickolea2996]

When will they publish the game in order to play?

[@daeronmcclain3137]

Thus is better than xenoverse 2 and fighterz

[@iamlordeyayaya3709]

i was 10 years old when i played 1.2, now im 74 years old, will my grand kids get a chance to play this atleast? also cool vid

[@night6k]

any progress is it almost done?

[@Oxes]

oh this is nice :D

[@alejandrocroce1484]

lo malo que nunca a a salir esto

[@MrRabbitXP]

LIKE

[@dra-dragonix1406]

this is half-life 1 by the way

[@emidio_art]

Honestly this game will be best than other dragon ball games with official license, better than xenoverse, better than kakarot I don't mind (kakarot it's a nice rpg tbh but I prefer fighting system)

[@风旅-t6l]

还在坚持，👴青回 Just make awesome！

[@ezequiel________5104]

siiii

[@Darkn3ss4u]

Did this project die ?

[@InsaniaTHEGREATONE]

So in other words you will never release this :I

[@etamm1343]

My guy, go spread your negativity somewhere else, not here, cause all you do is cry here and not helping anyone, you had time to learn to code, so why didn't you? If you really want this game, but can't help in anyway, but just spread your negativity

[@user-iq3vw8gj5g]

Wait. Theres donations for this game?

[@etamm1343]

Nope

[@Dragonias]

Not legally allowed to as this isnt our IP

[@Nezarn]

nice vaporware

[@SamuraiTrap]

OMG

[@joshew0242]

Que buenoo

[@z76par83]

No destruction? Without destruction any Dragon Ball game is pointless... You need to work on destruction of ENVIRONEMENT & CLOTHES.

[@etamm1343]

No dbz game has normal environmental destruction smh, btw if there would be a lot of people in one server and environment would get destroyed, that would cause a lot of lag, and the map would get flat and ruined

[@ESForces]

Not going to happen. If that's what makes a DB game for you, this one isn't it. We do hope you find the game you're looking for though!

[@AlanCturk1992]

...

[@alejandrocroce1484]

upload more videos so that it does not look like a fraud I have been waiting 11 years

[@ntuk0035]

alejandro croce this most definitely isn’t a fraud

[@SonGoku-lb4dy]

I really don't think it's nice anymore, just bring it out the way it is now!! or at least a demo!!! how can the lead be so selfish!!

[@Joaozinho11]

Don't hate me here, but what's really the point of ESF now? There's official games like this one (and ofc way better, imo) and they are still baiting us after 13 years...

[@Skyrider]

Because the team wants to finish what they started. Would be a shame to abandon it now after so much work that has been put into it.

[@Joaozinho11]

@@Skyrider yes, I can understand that. I'd be the same if I were them. But as fan since god knows when, I'm not that interested now, unfortunately.

[@Skyrider]

@@Joaozinho11 most people seem to say that, until the game gets released and they would decide to play it anyway. All everyone needs is a bit more patience. Regardless how long it's been already.

[@macdaddymario]

@@Joaozinho11 That's ok. You were a fan, not so much anymore. People have come to replace fans that have left. Circle of life. Just like fans of Z have stopped being fans as they grew up and got older, have been replaced by new fans. We make the game for us, and for those fans that do stick around... And for the fact that there is still not a single official game that plays in any way like ESF does.

[@Joaozinho11]

@@macdaddymario 100% agree, except the last part. You've XV.

[@InversedNoise]

dbz fanmade games that will never come out/Getting the KH3 & FF7R effect Dragon Ball Unreal ESF Final ZOPU

[@malgardoshan9002]

Primerooo

[@itsthereal47]

Bandai hit them with a cease and desist in 2013. That is why they have not dropped the game. This is a string along for exposure, views, donations, idk for likes? But there is no possibility they can release the game.

[@macdaddymario]

Bandai didn't hit us with any cease and desist. Not sure where you got that information. I suggest you read my reply to s cee, since you're making as much of a fool of yourself as they are with how little you apparently know about that situation? We get no donations, as Funimation issued a cease and desist to Bid for Power (different game, different modding community) back in the mid 2000's, at which point the donation for our project went away and has never returned. So money isn't it, exposure isn't what we want, as that puts our project at risk of being shut down... I guess views maybe, from the people that clearly care about the project, which clearly isn't you. If we offend you so much, why are you here? Toei Animation issued a takedown notice to moddb. We've never been hit with anything. If you continue to share false information, you'll likely get your comments hidden by boss man.