A limit that looks like e

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Prime Newtons

Prime Newtons

11 күн бұрын

In this video, I evaluated a limit that looked very much like e as n approached infinity. The journey simply led us to e.

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@___whateverr
@___whateverr 9 сағат бұрын
i solved it in my mind , and when i saw that you added ln i was so happy lol i felt like einstein thank you so much i love your channel
@meiwinspoi5080
@meiwinspoi5080 8 күн бұрын
just love your teaching. its like a rockstar teaching. so unreal because you are yourself. un pretentious. i am a teacher and how i wish i could do as well as you do.
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 8 күн бұрын
Thank you! 😃
@derrickbonsell
@derrickbonsell 9 күн бұрын
You had me there with that n^2+n trick
@Mr._Nikola_Tesla
@Mr._Nikola_Tesla 9 күн бұрын
Sir, I'm going to go ahead and say that you are the most wonderful teacher I've ever come across. Also I have this problem from one of my old math challenge books (I already know how to do it, I just want to see your approach to it) It goes like- "We know that 1^0 = 1, so we can say, 1^0 = 1^1, since the bases are same, we can drop the base to get 0 = 1, find how to disprove this."
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 9 күн бұрын
Nice question. Let me post it in the community.
@Jon60987
@Jon60987 9 күн бұрын
For the number 1, 1 to any power is 1. So the rule of dropping bases does not apply. The rule of dropping bases also does not apply to the number 0.
@Mr._Nikola_Tesla
@Mr._Nikola_Tesla 8 күн бұрын
@@Jon60987 You are correct, that is how I did it. But I believe there is a mathematical way to show this as well
@Jon60987
@Jon60987 8 күн бұрын
@@Mr._Nikola_Tesla Take the natural log of both sides. If the base is > 1, or between 0 and 1, then you can divide both sides by ln of the base to get the powers being equal. If the base = 1, then ln 1 = 0 and you can not divide both sides by ln 1.
@Jon60987
@Jon60987 8 күн бұрын
So here is my attempt to write it here: x^y = x^z implies that ln (x^y) = ln (x^z) implies that y*ln x = z*ln x, and if x is between 0 and 1 or greater than 1 then you can divide both sides by ln x to get y = z..
@happyhippo4664
@happyhippo4664 9 күн бұрын
I got an email that the T-shirts will ship next month. That is great.
@fatimakhan-bp5lw
@fatimakhan-bp5lw 23 сағат бұрын
Love from Pakistan 🇵🇰 ❤
@Orillians
@Orillians 7 күн бұрын
For a few days I was really bored and really did not want to watch your videos, but I watched one and now im binge watching all of the ones I missed lol
@Mr._Nikola_Tesla
@Mr._Nikola_Tesla 9 күн бұрын
A little typo you have in the title.
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 9 күн бұрын
Thank you. Fixed it
@sandyjr5225
@sandyjr5225 9 күн бұрын
Just curious, what's with the "Beware of dogs" caution at the end? It's a good caution though..
@ThenSaidHeUntoThem
@ThenSaidHeUntoThem 8 күн бұрын
Philippians 3:2 It is a verse of the bible.
@AlirezaNabavian-eu6fz
@AlirezaNabavian-eu6fz 9 күн бұрын
Excellent
@nicolascamargo8339
@nicolascamargo8339 6 сағат бұрын
Muy buena la explicación, detallada y clara
@guidichris
@guidichris 8 күн бұрын
Nice!!
@dean532
@dean532 8 күн бұрын
Last time I took a peak into what you thought about Gamma functions. Back in the day, We expressed a couple of Vector Calculus results in terms of Γ(n) and incidently β (n,x) How about sharing some thoughts on the mighty Bessel functions too in maybe your upcoming videos..
@marcgriselhubert3915
@marcgriselhubert3915 9 күн бұрын
u(n) = [1 +(1/(n^2 +n)]^[n^2 + sqrt(n)] , so ln(u(n)) = [n^2 + sqrt(n)]. ln([1 + (1/(n^2 +n)]) We use equivalents when n goes to +infinity: [n^2 + sqrt(n)] is equivalent to n^2 and ln([1 +(1/(n^2 +n)]) is equivalent to 1/(n^2 +n) or 1/n^2. So ln (u(n) is equivalent to n^2/n^2 = 1 and limit (ln(u(n)) = 1 and finally limit (u(n)) = e when n goes to +infinity.
@epicmonke3319
@epicmonke3319 6 күн бұрын
Ah hell nah that look at 3:28 got me putting my ears up
@vinayakmamtani
@vinayakmamtani 8 күн бұрын
It is the format of (1+f(x))^g(x) or 1^infinity so we write it as e^f(x).g(x) and then solve it as a normal limit
@Blaqjaqshellaq
@Blaqjaqshellaq 5 күн бұрын
We now know what we'd only THOUGHT we knew...
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 5 күн бұрын
That's an accurate way to put it.
@NotPVS
@NotPVS 8 күн бұрын
I had a very intuitive idea to solve this question without solving the limit. We know that limx->infinity (1+1/x)^2x = e^2, so the ratio between the exponent and the one in the denominator is actually the exponent we need to the base e that we get after solving the limit! By finding the limit as x->infinity x^2+sqrt(x)/x^2+x = 1, we can prove that the expression is equal to e without much calculation. Remember, learn how to approach a problem not to solve it :)
@GreenMeansGOF
@GreenMeansGOF 9 күн бұрын
My idea was to add and subtract n from the exponent but that may be more difficult.
@xinpingdonohoe3978
@xinpingdonohoe3978 9 күн бұрын
Mine too. Dealing with it may be more awkward since that n-√n doesn't divide too nicely into n²+n, to try and get more e stuff.
@adityashahi8184
@adityashahi8184 8 күн бұрын
Well the another idea of this question was very impressive but there is another one .. e^lim (n²+√n)(1 + 1/n²+n -1) And then the answer was e
@cesarcampuzanomartinez8182
@cesarcampuzanomartinez8182 9 күн бұрын
Can you solve the twin prime conjecture next please 😊
@nothingbutmathproofs7150
@nothingbutmathproofs7150 8 күн бұрын
I am very surprised that that sqrt(n) didn't prevent the limit from being e. Nicely done.
@jacksonsmith2955
@jacksonsmith2955 3 күн бұрын
You shouldn't expect it to. With n -> infinity, the n^2 term will grow so much faster than the sqrt(n) term that it might as well not be there. Same with the n in n^2 + n. You only really need to pay attention to the part that grows the fastest when you have a limit going to infinity. Hell, you could take the limit of (1 + 1/[e^n + 2n^45])^(e^n + ln(n)^37) as n -> infinity and it would still be e, because the fastest growing term (e^n) trends towards infinity.
@omerdvir1709
@omerdvir1709 9 күн бұрын
I have a question. Could you take the limit to the base and the exponent in this case because you’d get the same answer but I don’t know if that’s just a lucky accident
@lovishnahar1807
@lovishnahar1807 9 күн бұрын
sir this question was asked in indian statistical institute exam once
@boguslawszostak1784
@boguslawszostak1784 8 күн бұрын
It is not true that the limit of the function is a function of the limit if the function is not continuous. The function x^a is continuous, so you can directly use this property without taking logarithms, which you just proved. If the continuous function g(x) has a limit y, then lim g(x)^h(x) = y^lim h(x).
@marcoghiotti7153
@marcoghiotti7153 9 күн бұрын
Would it then be possible to generalise to any other similar form? I guess we could.
@marcoghiotti7153
@marcoghiotti7153 9 күн бұрын
I think as long as the 2 polynomials have the same degree you can generalise, as the lim of their ratio will go to 1
@MrJasbur1
@MrJasbur1 8 күн бұрын
Hey, completely unrelated question. But does anyone know if Prime Newtons will do a video on number theory or discrete logarithms?
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 8 күн бұрын
Let me answer you here. The first 3 videos on this channel were on Number Theory. The audience for it is small. And you know, if they won't buy, don't sell is the the rule of KZbin. I will soon begin making exclusive long videos but only for channel members. So I can at least make videos that are less popular.
@domanicmarcus2176
@domanicmarcus2176 9 күн бұрын
At time 5:47, why did you look to your right towards the ground.
@ruffifuffler8711
@ruffifuffler8711 6 күн бұрын
Turned into the prostate wrench uvula function; (ln((l((1+1/(z^2+z))^(z^2+z^(.5)))^88), l being parametric.
@michaelyu-jj8or
@michaelyu-jj8or 9 күн бұрын
this question can be solved by squeese rule
@metalliron8821
@metalliron8821 9 күн бұрын
I have a challenge for you! to prove that lim x - > 2 of g(x) = { x^(2) if 0
@omograbi
@omograbi 9 күн бұрын
6:27 sqrt(n)/n^2=n^(1/2)-n^(4/2)=n^(-3/2)=1/(n.sqrt(n)) You've got this wrong here
@nicolascamargo8339
@nicolascamargo8339 6 сағат бұрын
Así es, pequeño error
@johnpaterson6112
@johnpaterson6112 8 күн бұрын
Rather obvious that in the limit the n^2 will dominate the n and sqrt (n), so the answer is e.
@thabisonathanielmoremi8017
@thabisonathanielmoremi8017 8 күн бұрын
Kindly check sqrt(n) /(n) ^2.
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