A Long Critique of Pokémon Bugged Diamond & Shipped Early Pearl

[@AcousticHarmonia]

So glad this project is finally done after two months... The reception to the video so far has been incredible, so I'll be sure to do a final essay in this new era of Pokemon on the Switch saga with Legends Arceus, and then I'll take a break from Pokemon stuff for a while, haha Anyway, as this project used WAY more material than KZbin will allow to fit in one of their descriptions, you can find full credit to all other creators work I used in this video down below, organized by order of first appearance. Also I've been getting a lot of comments asking me what game is being shown on screen at a lot of different points in the video, so I've also decided to include a list of all the games I featured in this video (excluding Pokemon games, most of which is credited under the footage section here anyway if it was taken from other channels) 🎮Featured Games (Mostly trailer footage or generic gameplay, and in mostly order of first appearance) _____________________ The Legend of Zelda - Link's Awakening, Ocarina of Time 3D, Twilight Princess HD, Wind Waker HD, Link Between Worlds The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim Grand Theft Auto V Assassin's Creed Unity Super Mario 3D All-Stars Fire Emblem Heroes Dead by Daylight Assassin's Creed Rogue Tales of Arise Metroid Dread Anthem Fire Emblem Fates WatchDogs Legion Dark Deity Breath of the Wild Breath of the Wild Sequel Elden Ring Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Bayonetta 3 Cyberpunk 2077 Xenoblade Chronicles X Assassin's Creed Rebel Collection Fallout 76 Planet Coaster Minecraft Xenoblade Chronicles Astral Chain Grand Theft Auto Trilogy - The Definitive Edition Call of Duty Vanguard Battlefield 2042 eFootball 2022 _____________________ 🎵Music _____________________ Chapter 1 - Pokémon Remake History, Before Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl's Release The World Revolving - Deltarune - The Second Narrator - kzbin.info/www/bejne/npKVqJyVZ96qaMk Lorekeeper Zinnia - Pokémon ΩRαS - sheddy - kzbin.info/www/bejne/op_GgqNtlK-JpaM Steam Gardens - Super Mario Odyssey - Catorstrax - kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6TOl6t7esaghKs Song of Storms - The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time - Catorstrax - kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIK6iXWgmLaLhNE Trailer Theme - The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild Sequel - Melandru - kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4G5fWuEe7B8mq8 Kalos Power Plant/Pokéball Factory - Pokémon XY - sheddy - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHTShpmgadOVeMk Chapter 2 - The Hidden Scheme Lusamine - Pokémon SM - GlitchxCity - kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioupfJ2FhNeeqNE Field of Hopes and Dreams - Deltarune - The Second Narrator - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIGag3ljbregeZo Theme X - Xenoblade Chronicles X - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWacmqp4jqmMmdk Main Theme "Generations" - Assassin's Creed - Tobias Alexander Ratka - kzbin.info/www/bejne/l53Mh5qsipWBhqc Radio Tower Takeover - Pokémon GSC - GlitchxCity - kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYPVoIV9nthsn7c Chapter 3 - Gameplay Temporal Tower - Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers - Kamex - kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKLLn2SjqtyJpaM Appa YipYip - ATLA - Simon Groß - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGO6iXSfhL6Jnbc Eternatus Phase 3 - Pokémon SwSh - Catorstrax -kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIezqo2Cbd-gfas Cynthia - Pokémon DPPt - sheddy - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYiaeZV4hLBsg5Y Planet Wisp - Sonic Colors - Kamex - kzbin.info/www/bejne/b33aoYiuhZWmpdk Route 201 - Pokémon DPPt - GlitchxCity, Helynt - kzbin.info/www/bejne/Znu2iKFneat1atk Temporal Tower - Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers - insaneintherainmusic - kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6S9e3p8mNd_bZI Tellur Town Autumn 'Descension' - Pokkén Tournament - sheddy - kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHbCn2edrtOJrNU Kansas - Rise of the Shield Hero - Danski Beats - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGmceHqHmbiMibM On The Beach Of Dreams - Chrono Cross - Tymedust - kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3_Qi3uHfM6Hna8 Big Bang! - Mario & Luigi Paper Jam - Gamliel Zafrana - kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3eloZ5ojq6Ee9k The World Revolving - Deltarune - Emdasche - kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3LGhKaHqKiZqpI Sky Tower - Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Rescue Team - sheddy -kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpC4knRopb6brqM Chapter 4 - Visuals & Aesthetics Route 111 - Pokémon RSE - GlitchxCity - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jH-bpGSni6Zjfsk Through The Sea Of Time - Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers - sheddy - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGrOp6uGobKqhJI Two Flamingos - Planet Zoo - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnPYdoanlM9nj5I Route 228 - Pokémon DPPt - insaneintherainmusic - kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5S8hXuYhKqYgJo Chapter 5 - Soundtrack Eterna City (Night) - Pokémon BDSP - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZDCY5SforF2jbs Route 203 (Day) - Pokémon BDSP - kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6a6hXykgax0ppo Route 209 (Night) - Pokémon BDSP - kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHrZc4eehc5qhqM Cynthia - Pokémon BDSP - kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHKzmIZsbNx1aKM Cynthia - Pokémon DPPt - Super Smash Bros. for Wii U - kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6jKpaeJpNV6qa8 Cynthia - Pokémon DPPt - Pokémon Masters - kzbin.info/www/bejne/in6TeIaJh7edq7M Zinnia - Pokémon ΩRαS - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXrRaZKHZ5yKfLs Zinnia - Pokémon ΩRαS - Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4qzYWCXbrSmraM Zinnia - Pokémon ΩRαS - Pokémon Masters - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qInJlql7i7t3prc The End Lies Ahead - Xenoblade Chronicles - kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6S4dnapo9mYhpI The End Lies Ahead - Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition - kzbin.info/www/bejne/iX26aJt3lqx2fdE Gym Leader - Pokémon BDSP - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmiUpHmomsSEsNE Route 210 (Day) - Pokémon BDSP - kzbin.info/www/bejne/enXIgoKpbMpontk Ramanas Park - Pokémon BDSP - kzbin.info/www/bejne/opCzpGObjpWgrLc Minor Legendary - Pokémon BDSP - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmbcmaiXrrx7pLs Major Legendary - Pokémon BDSP - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmWYh4qIpLJ0a9k Ending Theme - Pokémon BDSP - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHquqGmLm79qb68 Chapter 6 - Story The Shackled Wolves (Rain) - Fire Emblem Three Houses - kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIPdZJqQZ9l9b8U A Dark Fall - Fire Emblem Fates - kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3TdenWdo5l_rpY Gladion - Pokémon SM - Mewmore - kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5iQe5SAZd1ojK8 Gladion - Pokémon SM - GlitchxCity - kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5OWqmWkoNlpm80 Chapter 7 - Brilliant Diamond, Shining Pearl Ending Theme - Pokémon DPPt - sentsinkanteun - kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHKbmXikgp6Xnqc Through The Sea Of Time - Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers - Unnamed Remixer - kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIKVZpKQf6h9jMk Don't Ever Forget - Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers - Unnamed Remixer - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHS8YYKsbNGoaqM Lake - Pokémon DPPt - sentsinkanteun - kzbin.info/www/bejne/poWaqpJppMd2fpY _____________________ 📋Footage _____________________ Chapter 1 Pokémon FRLG Sevii Islands - Empolo18 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2O2dYuXlpaYq5o Pokémon HGSS Pokeathlon - terrotim - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJbWe6eujs2Bn7c Pokémon HGSS Battle Frontier - Mixeli - kzbin.info/www/bejne/l57YnIl5rs1njJo Pokémon HGSS Wifi Plaza - TheJolteonMaster - kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6S8eKKXnL18e68 Pokémon ΩRαS Zinnia Battle - Pokeli - kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3KzlqBugJp8ecU Pokémon Emerald Battle Frontier - FrostBytez Gaming Experience - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGm8qIeIeZWjerc Fire Emblem Heroes Summoning - GuardianE - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pl61aoaufruapdk Chapter 3 H I G H Q U A L I T Y A N I M A T I O N S - DistantKingdom - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqqYnYiBYqqAY6M Lumiose City Style Guide - MunchingOrange - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqq6ZJl-ZsSia6M Pokémon SM All Clothes - ProsafiaGaming - kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4e7Y4qHmKZqg8k the wild area is crazy... - Miyui - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnmTeaKrlrJ4eZI Dialga Pushed Away - fubuki158 - twitter.com/fubuki158/status/1461972775283740672?s=21 BDSP HGSS Scale Meme - PkmnLegendArceus - twitter.com/PkmLegendArceus/status/1458200680557076491?s=20 Legendary Pokemon Following - Nintendo Unity - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnemd52leLSEobM Giratina - HeroVoltsy - kzbin.info/www/bejne/inrWm3ijgtuJeLM Shadow Giratina - HeroVoltsy - kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3m5iqqcfJuoZ9k Secret Bases - Solesif - kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5mbdICqjLRseJY Abandoned Storage Units - MrBeast - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXa5oX6ljp1oeas Capture The Flag - chuggaaconroy - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJatYZR6dsR0fa8 Pokémon Contests - Lumiose Trainer Zac - kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKvRnpdneaxsh8U Pokémon SM Gen 5 Walking Animations - KazoWAR - kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6GtiIKLi71ri5Y FRLG & RB Version Differences - CandyEvie - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWqkg6Nrh76DncU BDSP Bridge Teleport - Lewtwo - twitter.com/Lewchube/status/1461836182690713600?s=20 BDSP Speedrun - Werster - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJzMg4GwoqqtaNE Snowpoint Softlock - DistantKingdom - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKi2iaJvga1mpLM Amity Square Glitchyness - pkmncast - twitter.com/pkmncast/status/1462150087619096582?s=20 Underground A Too Fast Softlock - Nikirol - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pISad5d8p6usnMU Crash From A Too Fast - BlowfishGun - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXbWlYqMerSpqrM Berry Blue Screen of Death - Obliterex - kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3nTo6N8acd_qbc Chapter 4 Diamond/Pearl Gym Battles - Mixeli - kzbin.info/www/bejne/noCViZ2JbNZ1p7c Chapter 6 Diamond/Pearl Adventures Manga (Volumes 1-6) Online - www.mangaowl.net/single/3997 (Shots of volumes 7-8 are pictures I had to take of the actual volumes on my shelf, so I also apologize my fingers are in a few of the shots as I had to hold the pages open) The Plan - Pokémon BW - kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5XWYmCZZ7J6oas Pokémon SM Gladion Encounters & Battles - Zephiel810 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/enynm6uhqa53q5o Pokémon USUM Obtaining Type: Null - SacredAlmighty - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpuZlZt6asSkgsk Fan Made BDSP Trailer - millenniumloops - twitter.com/millenniumloops/status/1369428475535388688?s=20 Chapter 7 Pokémon Platinum Wifi Plaza - SeaSlug - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jX7JlIZ9r8-moMU _____________________

[@treeper8622]

Yet another good video, keep up the good work!

[@Gamedraco]

I honestly look forward to what you do for Legends Arceus after playing it.

[@dsshocktrooper7523]

Hey question, have you ever wanted to cover other monster catching games? You should try out Temtem.

[@Gamedraco]

Also I am inspired by your reviews of Pokemon on Switch and BD/SP to do my own video on this subject matter, only from the beginning in Gen 1 to Gen 7 when you have covered and hammered Gen 8 spot on. I go back to the very beginning in Gen 1 following it closely ever since, played from Red and Blue to X and Y, and felt the series has been on the decline since Gen 3.

[@AcousticHarmonia]

@@Gamedraco Das awesome to hear, sounds like an interesting project

[@Begeru]

It’s so strange how they went all in on “faithful remakes” including the minuscule dex size and missing other platinum content. But, they added in completely new mechanics like affection rng and permanent exp share.

[@blameitondanny]

The fact that the affection system merged with the happiness point and not it's separate thing makes the battle more busted I'd say mega evo.

[@aquavgc7546]

Pretty sure affection was here since sun and moon

[@tristenj1992]

@@aquavgc7546 Yes but not the original Diamond and Pearl, which is the point here. It's trying to be a completely faithful remake...but not really.

[@Begeru]

@@aquavgc7546 what I meant is that those mechanics were completely new compared to the originals.

[@blameitondanny]

@@aquavgc7546 Affection was introduced in XY via Pokemon Amie. But in previous games, it was an optional thing since you have to play amie etc.

[@kirayoshikage8856]

No joke. I bought the game, started it, went through the into cutscene and talk with my mom, opened the door to start my grand journey in the sinnoh region, and then my game immediately crashed… before twin leaf town even loaded in. Best first impression

[@olivierdubreuil-gagnon2201]

The game itself was trying to stop you from playing it.

[@JoelHernandez-tz3vk]

@@olivierdubreuil-gagnon2201 If it could only stop you from buying it in the first place...

[@DrHomura]

My game did that too.

[@ghb323]

nintendo’s first bug infested game that impedes normal gameplay

[@pigglepix]

@@ghb323 It even has more bugs than X & Y (The game with the most bug type pokemon)

[@MrMarinus18]

I kinda wished they hadn't made this and instead poured those resources into legend of Arceus. Pokémon for a long while is just way too overworked and frantic. They need to really concentrate their vision and resources into one massive project and make it the best it can be.

[@AdumskaH]

I mean, Gamefreak did outsource it and worked on Arceus instead, and, graphics aside, it looks like it paid off

[@NarutoLover6219]

Gamefreak didn’t actually work on this. It was outsourced….which explains a lot about how bad this game was 😅

[@TheReZisTLust]

Not even that just hire more people

[@MrMarinus18]

@@TheReZisTLust Actually just throwing bodies at projects isn't as easy as that. The more people you have the harder it is to get them all on the same line and usually the more generic the project turns out.

[@jonahhex18]

@@MrMarinus18 it depends. A good management team with a solid direction can keep all those bodies on the same page. With a small team, it's easier for them to communicate. Less micromanaging is needed, since everyone can work together easily. With a large team, the individuals can't communicate as easily. A team of artists needs a head artist to communicate with the head programmers and composers and everything else, just to make sure that everyone is working toward a unified vision

[@peanutbutterbagel9942]

I remember seeing people trying to defend the pre-patch soundtrack when we were all worried it was real. This is the problem I have with fans just excusing poor work.

[@rushpatriot2866]

That's how idiots work. You'll see them everywhere too. Slaves to tribalism,they might as well not even have a personality or brain

[@spatial_rind]

I personally like how some of it sounds, but it is NOT acceptable for a 60 heckin dollar game, especially a Pokemon game. Those who bought it when it released deserved better than bleeding ears.

[@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon]

Nintendo fanboys are some of the most pathetic consumers to exist in the gaming industry, they would buy literal shit if it had a logo they know on it and lash out to anyone pointing out what they bought as anything less than a masterpiece.

[@hexi9595]

Tfw you realize the pre-patch spundtrack was just a placeholder cause they didn’t wanted to buy the more expensive game cartridges and instead force storage space on the switch instead as well as the rest of the stuff on the day 1 patch.

[@TheUltraKekster]

Those people were coping. Not defending 😂

[@ColdCutTrio]

According to another KZbinr I watched (PointCrow, I believe) BDSP was able to be modded on the very first day because they literally copied and pasted a VERY large chunk of code straight from the old games. They didn't even bother to fix the fishing rod, which was patched in the complementary game by adding a *singular coma*.

[@peternotpeter4201]

Wait what was wrong with the fishing rod

[@ColdCutTrio]

@@peternotpeter4201 there was some kind of duplication glitch called "The Sandwich" where you use it in spots you can't fish, eventually allowing you to walk through things and off the map.

[@peternotpeter4201]

@@ColdCutTrio oh i see

[@OdaSwifteye]

That's kind of promising. That means that eventually people can make some nice mods with it.

[@ColdCutTrio]

@@OdaSwifteye PointCrow and his crew already has- Room randos, Pokemon randos, and accurate sizes are already there.

[@bluthemew1447]

Fun fact: It was recently found out that all the back-end code for these games was literally just copy-pasted from Diamond and Pearl!

[@lazwardazure716]

Y-yeah I'm not shocked in the slightest

[@whaliococo]

Wonder why the fishing glitch is still there ey?

[@Hunter_6430]

Yeah, this is why a lot of glitches from DP that were fixed in Platinum onward are now suddenly present again

[@user-lf5xq4gu1g]

Awesome. So BDSP, by definition, aren't even remakes.

[@somedragonbastard]

Tbh, I don't know what I was expecting. What a disgusting, lazy thing to do. And charging full price too!

[@llamasandanime]

Just remember before you start defending the graphics in this game: Even Stardew valley mixes more than one tree model to convey a forest. And that was made by one guy... five years ago... as an homage to an older game than the original DPP.

[@dsshocktrooper7523]

Are you referring to Harvest Moon?

[@llamasandanime]

@@dsshocktrooper7523 yes

[@polifonikastudio]

Yeah, but Stardew is in a different genre. And it's 2D. It's like comparing oranges to apples.

[@llamasandanime]

@@polifonikastudio well, if you want to compare the environments apples to apples, Harvest moon went 3-D way back on the Nintendo 64.... and they STILL had more than one tree model.

[@qualityarsenic3922]

@@polifonikastudio Being a different genre is the worst excuse imaginable.

[@AnaglyphicHacker]

My favorite glitch was my murkrow turning a solid vaporwave-purple color after leaving the underground in Oreburgh city. It stayed that way until the game just fully crashed.

[@probablyjinxed]

it’s a new feature called “game-crashing shinies”! you guys complain too much!

[@pikacringe]

@@probablyjinxedIt’s also a feature in the Teal Mask, iirc Some persons shiny Luxray turned black and white 😂

[@cleliaoconnell3705]

I feel like "game footage not final" should only be viewed as a protection against lawsuits when the end game looks different from a trailer, and not as a way to say the game will be "so much prettier".

[@michaeltheaegis]

I mean... Yeah, that is what that means. Petty lawsuits are pretty rampant in modern day America.

[@conspiracypanda1200]

That's literally why all games have that. I can't remember which game it was specifically, but there was a huge stink over a game that had misleading trailers where the graphics were pumped up for the trailers only and the actual game was downgraded and buggy. They copped it pretty hard for false advertising and their shareholders threw a fit as the trailers seemed like outright lies built to trick them into investing. From then on we've seen "Game footage not final" or "Footage may not reflect actual gameplay" or "Final product may differ" in pretty much every trailer, gameplay or otherwise. The sucky thing about that is that some game companies have managed to spin this to their advantage. Like "oh, you thought the game would deliver on what we showed you in the trailers? Well, you should have looked at the disclaimer at the bottom! It's technically not false advertising because we slapped on the Not Final warning so we legally don't have to deliver shit if we don't wanna and you can't hold us accountable~"

[@potater8034]

Yes like trailers at e3 only those need to be "not as pretty"

[@JohnTK]

The distortion world was entirely designed to be a technical showcase. Back then, seeing the player character leaving the 2d plane that is the ground and walking up on walls and on the ceiling was absolutely stunning. It's the exact same vibe that Castelia City and BW's victory road gave, being the first pokemon locations to feature non-rectangular areas. They were also the first games to allow players to physically run around most of the region together and be able to see each other, via infrared connection. Same as soaring in ORAS, the first and only game where you can see the entire region from above all at once, and without a boring town map. Same as X and Y, the first fully 3D pokemon games, with routes that weren't made up of square tiles and organized lines of tree barricades. Of course nowadays, the distortion world isn't impressive or even really that unique anymore. Tons of space games like mario galaxy and Outer Wilds have the player walking on walls and ceilings. Tons of games have zero g moment. Tons of games include environments that shift and change around the player. Tons of games have 3D environments. So if a remake of gen 4 were to be made, then they'd have to give the distortion world a MASSIVE glow up for it to even compare to the spectacles of modern games. But of course, we didn't get that, and we probably never will... I just hope they never make a gen 5 remake...

[@-cactus.raven-]

I hate how much I agree with this statement. I never got bdsp even tho dpp are my favorite pkmn games. Imagining what they are gonna do with Unova scares me. It gives me the same feeling about a new Titanfall game, I want a new game so much but I don’t ever want it to come out in the current environment. Laziness and greed really just fuck everything up, huh

[@tajemniczynieznajomy8829]

1:11:18 In some cases, you have even less selection. Embargo, Heal Block, Me First aren't in the remakes of the game they were intorduced in. VESPIQUEN CAN'T LEARN HEAL ORDER, one of her signature moves, in the remake of the generation that INTRODUCED HER

[@thefanman2912]

now that's the definition of disappointing

[@rbikidportland]

BuT wE hAvE rOoSt!

[@tajemniczynieznajomy8829]

@@rbikidportland Togekiss used Roost. Half of its types are gone. IILCA used Roost. Half of the game is gone. Strangely fitting xD

[@somedragonbastard]

Still pissed that gen 8 cut Return. Like, why? What's the point of that?

[@QuicksilverTheElegant]

@@somedragonbastard They w h a t (didn’t even notice but I always liked Return for being just a great filler move if you didn’t have a planned moveset and just a great move regardless)

[@bionichuteagain2583]

my theory is that ilca thought they were hired to do outsourcing work and then had it dropped on them that they had to make a full game so thats why only the caves look good

[@Deadflower019]

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they did the modeling and rendering, got back to TPC to deliver the work, and were told that they were actually making the _whole_ game several months into development.

[@bettyunicorn6132]

@@Deadflower019 that must suck

[@DS_Takuya]

For some reason the water looks amazing as well in bdsp

[@joshk147]

The caves dont even look good though...

[@makotonarukami7468]

​@@DS_Takuyatoo much water

[@PorthoGamesBR]

I think i discovered the golden rule to a remake: If you prefer to play the remake instead of the original, its a good remake. If its the other way around, then you did something very wrong.

[@rogue1248]

no it made the right choice, the og, or rather Platinum is better than this garbage.

[@PorthoGamesBR]

​@@rogue1248 I mean the developer did something wrong with the remake

[@spudsbuchlaw]

This doesnt apply to Final Fantasy 7/ Final Fantasy 7 Remake, of course, but for most anything else, yes

[@RavenGamingOverLord]

@@rogue1248 This remake could be worse :)

[@michaeltheaegis]

I think the purpose of a remake is to preserve a game that is no longer purchasable. So now the next generation of gamers can play without buying an old DS and trying to find a copy of Diamon or Pearl. To be fair, you could also do this with a virtual console, but just getting the same thing with HD graphics really didn't bother me. To be fair it is marked as a "remake" not a "remaster."

[@yaboigronk1744]

I'm not sure if it's exactly a well known thing, but some of the animations don't loop properly. Specifically trainer animations at the end of battles and the animations for pokemon in the menus. They all stop for a frame before looping again, it's barely noticeable sometimes, but you can tell if you look hard enough.

[@AcousticHarmonia]

I noticed it for Gardenia actually, but I guess I didn't look closely enough at the others to notice it (I probably should've been on the lookout for that after seeing it with Gardenia, whoops). I know it's something that wasn't mentioned in the video, because I had only noticed the one instance of it during the playthrough I honestly kinda forgot about it until towards the end of production and was like "oh yeah, well I guess I'll mention it during the cons at the end if it makes my list of cons a satisfying even number, and not otherwise", and I didn't. Probably a dumb reason but that was my reason, haha. (And I also forgot roaming legendaries were a thing too because I never got them in my bugged save file, so if I had mentioned both it could've still been a nice even number, so WHOOPS)

[@blameitondanny]

Gamefreak's buttlicker would say : " "If you look hard enough" that's just nitpicking 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡"

[@canaldecasta]

Take your time and tear it down. Im about to get Arceus itself and the whole thing was dreadful. Gamefreak has no shame.

[@dogearflopper7011]

Speedrunners: Write that down!

[@allegraalberoni]

I can't wait for speedrunners to use this in some way

[@PkGam]

The funny thing about the remakes trying to be faithful to the originals is that it fails even in that regard. You as the player can move in any direction now, which creates issues as the game was originally meant to be grid-based. Plus the perma-on exp-share affects balance so they indeed should have taken that into account or nuked the exp. share altogether. Instead they gave the Elite 4 the only real changes. So they did think of it, yet didn't apply it elsewhere. Cutscenes where characters move in 90-degree angles are even different than the original as characters wouldn't stop in place at a corner, turn, then begin moving again, they just sort of teleport-turn instantly. Which this game still has anyway as you noticed. So they didn't even implement it appropriately to try and imitate the way it was for charm or detail. Not that cutscenes are the most important things of course, but it's just another example of them not being faithful to the originals if that's what they were aiming for. Lots' more really. But the bottom line is they either didn't know what to do with them or were lazy for a cash grab. I'm leaning towards the latter.

[@yourlocaltherapistfriend5091]

and is exactly why the hardcore nuzlockes are fun to watch, the hardest thing about the games is actually keeping your pokemon under the level cap lol

[@positivea9111]

I feel the only people who like the lock exp share, and like it easy are those idiots who only care about the main mission, rush the game, stare into space while playing and act like those idiots speed runner ( So basically kids around the age 3 to 10 and those adult that cut corner a lot.)

[@sirduck600]

My brother was extremely excited for a potential gen 4 remake, and when it actually was announced he cried. He was so happy. And then we saw how the game looked. We kept telling ourselves oh it probably won’t be as bad as we think it’ll be fine. Then the game came out, and no words can describe how disappointed we were. Truly a giant missed opportunity

[@AstralAnubes]

Same thing here man we both played Sinoh I had Diamond he had Pearl.

[@kyoyameganebereznoff]

I really like the idea of friendship level making your pokemon stronger since friendship has been a big theme in basically every Pokemon game, but I think it should have been limitied to the _occasional_ critical hit or 1 HP survival. The taking no damage and status effect recoveries are silly.

[@TheWraithOfMooCow]

It should have been handled like how it was in the past, where it was a reward for going out of your way to pamper your Pokemon beyond just using them in battle.

[@billcipher8645]

I agree, it's silly seeing a Pokemon "go out of paralysis with love" or things like burn or poison.. yeah friendship is magic but even in the anime the friendship bonuses were rather limited to how strong the attacks are or avoiding one by a shoutout

[@ascaredmilipede7971]

Im sure the competitive pokemon players would love if max friendship gives you consistent high damage rolls

[@GarnetBlazeAnimator]

Consider high friendship unlocking walking with pokemon. It would incentivize using whatever friendship mechanisms there are without making battles too easy. It would also make sense lore-wise as a pokemon who is your friend would be more willing to travel alongside you.

[@SparkDoesArt]

Yeah my luxray was my FAVORITE so I walked with him constantly and he was the favorite child. At synthia he survived 4 or 5 earthquakes in a row on 1 hp

[@taylorbrisse4970]

As a Zelda fan, also a Pokémon fan, I wouldn’t excuse these “remakes”. Zelda games are honest with what they are, HD remasters, says it in the title. Wind Waker HD, Twilight Princess HD, and Skyward Sword HD, so you know what you’re getting. Every Pokémon remake has always been new twists on the originals, these weren’t diamond and pearl HD, they were brilliant diamond and shining pearl. That’s the biggest difference, LoZ does remasters, Pokémon did remakes….until now

[@rockfan243]

It looks like pokemon is actually going th DE-make route......might as well have made it 2d game boy pixel art....it would have at least been charming then.

[@burgerkinghofer6916]

The Zelda were even more than HD games because mostly HD means you get the same game with only higher resolution which was only the case in skyward sword which is eventually the biggest cash grab zelda game because its a simple 60fps 1080p port for 60 dollars while the original had cost 70 dollars with a wii motion plus remote.

[@RenMatoi]

Well its still a remake since a remake completely remakes the visuals and the game mechanics now the mechanics are similar but they're different, now the visuals are completely remade to 3d

[@alexskocy9948]

Pokemon also advertised it as such. It's a faithful remake of Diamond and Pearl

[@manamaster6]

The Wind Waker HD game added so much value to what the GameCube experience offered; it may have been called HD, but it added quality of life improvements, better menus, faster animations, and even the replacement of a feature that wasn't possible on the Wii U. I wish Pokémon offered such benefits.

[@NarutoLover6219]

Also, can I just say as a layout artist in film and tv, did anyone else HATE the camera work in this game? It’s like the artists never opened their editors and took a look at how their cameras move on a motion path. They are so abrupt, moving as if it’s turning sharp invisible corners…when a simple ease and and ease out would have been so much more appealing. For a game that claimed to be a perfect remake…. Just keep it top down! If your cameras are going to be this rough don’t bother or else you just break the immersion.

[@domicraft6341]

I feel like "Zooms" and diagonal movement are the only thing that was supposed to make this feel different from Sinnoh. While keeping everything else in the 2D grid. Everytime I see a let's play the gamw zooms in to every single character you have a conversation with.

[@spookyseraph9426]

As someone who’s worked with digital cameras in a 3D space before, I can understand why it would be difficult for them to get it to look good, BUT they did have several MONTHS to polish it when each camera pan/angle change should’ve only taken about an hour to get done, let alone clean looking

[@bananasinfrench]

Hardly related, but what films or tv shows have you worked on, if you're able to say? I've been trying to get in on the industry and I love hearing about other peoples' experiences!

[@NarutoLover6219]

@@bananasinfrench recently, What If on Disney + 🙂 I jumped between animation and layout on that show. It was a blast working on it

[@bananasinfrench]

@@NarutoLover6219 That's so cool, good for you! Working on a Disney cartoon sounds like a blast

[@Mswordx23]

I never bought these games but holy crap, I didn't know the amount of anti-consumer BS they did. Yet people will still keep rewarding them for it.

[@TheREALSimagination]

Only for the parts those people are aware of.

[@rushpatriot2866]

Pokemon fans are generally bootlickers same with Nintendo honestly they'll buy anything with the brand name and then defend it until they die. Bunch of Npcs

[@toniluna4597]

Well honestly this is isn’t the game they meant to work on as the next remake that what was arceus was the replacement for it that my thought

[@toniluna4597]

@@ChadVigilante but that what they had in mind they released it to appease the fans since they had a idea that it was the next remaster but they probably had plans for arceus so instead of them just releasing arceus and people probably complaining about diamond and pearl remix and hating arceus they did what they did

[@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon]

The pokemon fanbase is made up by pathetic manchildren who get their fix by consuming, they don't have the capacity to understand what the pokemon company is selling is a bad product.

[@theultimatezero2571]

I hope that there is never any gen 5 remakes. They don't even need a remake and if they are made they will probably end up like these remakes.

[@sirspookybones1118]

If gen 4 remake is anything to go off, a port is all we'd need

[@osc-omb47896]

@@sirspookybones1118 don't get mad if they do, even though I know you will

[@sirspookybones1118]

@@osc-omb47896 I'm not that hard pressed for games to get angry at a most likely mediocre remake that isn't even in development, as far as we know.

[@morganqorishchi8181]

They'll probably end up remaking it eventually. It won't be very good, but that's why the originals - and emulators - exist, to give a quality experience.

[@morganqorishchi8181]

@@osc-omb47896 Dude, no one here was or is remotely angry. 'I hope this game doesn't get a remake/port' isn't an angry statement. Go take your meds, drink some water and get some exercise, you're clearly not doing well.

[@DaCrump]

"Fallout 76, that game shipped physically, except you open up the case and it's just a cardboard disc with a download code." How is it that after all this time I still manage to learn new terrible stuff they did with that game?

[@av4010]

probably because it's not true lol. at least, not entirely. The game is on the disc, but apparently not on the special editions or whatever.

[@thelostmessenger]

I've seen images of the disc. Terrible stuff really. Equally as hilarious

[@ryanhernandez1877]

Feels like something Internet Historian said on his review of Fallout 76

[@thelostmessenger]

@@ryanhernandez1877 he did

[@deoxysandmew2162]

**remembers the Internet Historian video**

[@fruitysoupy]

This makes me so sad... I grew up with Diamond and Pearl, and foolishly had high hopes for the remake. I was looking forward to an approach similar to ORAS at least

[@frenzy2061]

Same! I was really looking forward to the possibility of character redesigns, updated/remixed battle themes and maybe a twist on the original story, just like we got in ORAS. I'm not a huge fan of dynamaxing but I was expecting we'd get more gen 4 pokemon gigantimax forms like the gen 3 mega evolutions we got in ORAS, or maybe some Sinnoh regional variants or something. They just didn't care. I'm just really glad Legends Arceus actually had effort put into it and that Sinnoh did get something good in the end.

[@cariandi]

Same for me. I would have loved to play an actual remake of Diamond, but there's no way I'm paying for what's essentially a worse version of the same game I already own. It baffles me that these games sold as well as they did.

[@growingoaks]

“I foolishly believed in the remake” Bruh chill this aint your villain arc

[@hopekeeley2122]

I hope if they do a black/white remake it will be better

[@tyranitar6366]

Platinum was my first game. I was so dissapointed that they dropped the platinum content from the pearl and diamond remakes. They literally just brought the same watch from pearl and diamond, THEY DIDNT EVEN BOTHER TO BRING IN PLATINUM'S WATCH!!

[@mdntsyntx]

1:14:00 Those black bars are basically small seams in the models. Basically when the game goes to render, instead of the game drawing both of the models, it ends up drawing the seam between them for that pixel. leading to it looking black. Typically people who know what they're doing know how to fix it. And this bug almost 100% tells me this game was made in Unity since it always has that problem

[@stanzacosmi]

it was made in unity, but the originals also had that problem if you played them on emulator at a higher resolution

[@shamefuldisplay9692]

​@stanzacosmi Almost like those games werent intended to be played on emulators. The new games have np excuse.

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

The original games also have the black bars lol

[@flatwhitecanvas1658]

I can’t tell where the black bars are - the mountain wall?

[@LunamFlore]

I feel such an absurd amount of empathetic pain for anyone who considered the 4th gen games *their* games nostalgia-wise. Cause man. What an injustice. Platinum was right there for a perfect template.

[@Gandalf-fe3gw]

Yup, my heart is broken honestly. Pokemon Pearl was my very first own Pokemon game, and I have insane nostalgia for it, but also for Platinum. I've been waiting for so long to see a remake of my childhood games. And they completely butchered it almost in the worst way possible. That, I can never forgive them. It's also made me take a step back and not buy a main line game (Legends) at release for the first time since XY (where I didn't because I didn't own a 3DS at the time). They could have done so much great stuff with the Gen 4 games, but they decided to choose all the bad parts and add bad new stuff and only sprinkle a few bits of good things in there, that completely fail to balance out the overwhelmingly negative other shenanigans.

[@LunamFlore]

@@Gandalf-fe3gw Man I'm sorry.

[@frankfort332]

Sadly Gamefreak let another company work on BDSP while they focused on Arceus

[@Sasiwa30]

Played since gen 1, but Gen 4 was my favorite game of all. Seeing it like this feels like getting kick in the face several times.

[@batfurs3001]

@@Gandalf-fe3gw bdsp broke my heart but legends arceus has been the most fun I've had with a pokemon game since explorers of sky. It's not perfect, there's a lot to improve, but goddamn if it isn't a step in the right direction. One of my favourite pokemon games in a very long time, by far

[@ManuelKoegler]

I didn’t actually know what they did to contests until this video and man, that just killed my soul.

[@Sebas_Khan01]

it makes me so sad...

[@scaleonkhan183]

Same here

[@Naixatloz]

The Xenoblade X data packs contain uncompressed versions of basically every texture in the game, which is a hell of a lot of textures when you take into account how big the game's map is and how many different entities there are. It's also important to note that it was divided into 4 packs, so if you couldn't or didn't want to commit to the full 10 GB download, you could pick and choose what was most important to you. And the reason they did any of this wasn't any sort of time or cost-saving measure on their end - a Wii U disc can't contain more than 25 GB. Massively compressing the game's textures was the only way they could do a physical release at all.

[@kingzerko]

As much as I enjoyed the game, there is no denying that BDSP was a low effort project capitalising on nostalgia. Thank you for your deep analysis.

[@katiemorison7969]

Most based BDSP enjoyer

[@undrhil]

No one ever mentions that Barry's animations were the same as every other trainer but should have been sped up and hyper, as that was his main defining trait I'm these games.

[@TheHomieLew]

I remember some trivia where in the Unova games N spoke one speed faster than other trainers did, and if you had the text speed on fast he spoke even faster than that. Details speak volumes

[@kingp260]

@TheHomieLew There’s also an old lady that speaks one speed slower than every other character, and speaks painfully slow if you put the speed on slow.

[@sticksterstickme986]

I love buying physically. I love collecting. Seeing the way the industry is going, it's honestly very scary. I'm a minor so trying to get my hands on micro SD cards or additional storage is extremely hard lol. It's a nightmare. I always get annoyed when I buy a physical switch game and then I have to archive 85 different things to even play it. :(

[@billcipher8645]

That's weird, I've never had a problem to buy physical copies of Nintendo games. Maybe it's because I'm from Europe.. but it sounds scary

[@kirin1230]

@@billcipher8645 I think they're referring to how the game's aren't all on the card. It has nothing to do with availability or region.

[@dragonmaster3030]

@@kirin1230 you know, like a ds game is. I also find it pathetic that the most storage you can get is 32 gigabytes when phones have 64+gigs

[@chibi3593]

ORAS made me excitded for Gen 5's remakes but now I dread them because of BDSP

[@Gamedraco]

OR/AS was a red flag for me when it comes to Pokemon Remakes. Gen 3 Fire Red/Leaf Green expanded massively over the original Gen 1 games. Gen 4 Heart Gold/Soul Silver are not just the best Pokemon Remakes, but also are easily among of the best remakes in gaming history. They kept everything that made Gen 2 great, and then added features that were sorely missing, greatly expanded upon, and/or never in the originals like it was the true vision for Gen 2 finally being realized. Gen 6 OR/AS on the other hand did not really expand much from the Gen 3 originals, and not having Emerald's Battle Frontier was a massive step backwards.

[@SadMoribund]

Without going into spoilers, Legends Arceus almost hints at a BW game in the style of it with a certain character. I hope they go through with this instead of a remake (we could get a much more interesting plot revolving around truth and ideals + facing the original Dragon)

[@chibi3593]

@@SadMoribund really!? i'd love a legend Arceus style game for Unova espcially with me wanting to see what the original dragon looked like

[@LunamFlore]

I used to be excited as hell for the inevitable B/W remake but honestly same, now I simply live in dread LOL

[@LunamFlore]

@@SadMoribund One can hope!

[@roonkolos]

If literally any other game series did even HALF this shit, they would rightfully be berated into oblivion But for some reason, purely because "Pokemon", it gets a pass Blue was the first video game I ever played in my entire life. It is an absolute travesty to see it in the state that it is

[@ZorotheGallade]

No Man's Sky had its creators roll their sleeves up and work their ass off to put all the features they promised but didn't manage to deliver in time in their game, and people are still bitter at them for their initial failure which was brought by incomprehensions, bad PR and scheduling conflicts. They did a full 180 and worked at no direct benefit to themselves when they were in the perfect position to pocket the money and run, and they still get flak for that. But Pokemon is Pokemon so even if the next game caused consoles to literally explode people would still go back to buying the next one.

[@probablyjinxed]

they could make them as buggy as the first damn game and it would still sell like hotcakes we been knew this 💀

[@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon]

And to think the old fanbase was much more critical of gen 5 and 6, it was the switch audience who made lazy pokemon games a success.

[@321cheeseman]

Not true, Pokemon isn't alone sadly. Sonic fans are massive apologists in exactly the same ways. Might even be worse.

[@donniedinero]

Man tell me about it

[@CorinneStephens]

I think especially now that it's is out, it's pretty blindingly obvious that PLA was the game they wanted to make and BDSP was an obligation. Which, even though PLA is amazing, is pretty devastating for the sinnoh region proper. I've seen people saying they want a gen 5 legends game too, but I'm not sure. I would love another legends game but not if the Unova remakes are as messy and empty and bare-bones as the Sinnoh ones.

[@somedragonbastard]

They probably could've just ported Platinum to the Switch and ppl would have at least been placated for a while. It's so frustrating Also, if there's gonna be more Legends games, I hope the next one is gonna be Johto

[@lordpsi99]

I live in fear of how they'll butcher gen 5 and 6. I still wonder about the original 3DS versions of Black and White and the original Switch versions of Sun and Moon. They really need to increase their development team size and use all of Nintendo's resources. There's no more Iwata to help bridge the various parts of The Pokémon Company.

[@AzureGreatheart]

@@somedragonbastard At least the straight port would've meant we could get an actually good remake later. Even if they fix most of this game's issues, we will still have to wait through two other Let's Go remakes that may or may not even happen before we get a truly great Sinnoh remake. I think Legends: Arceus deserves an expansion more, but BDSP *NEEDS* an expansion more, just to add some things that were missing at launch. We're probably getting Gen V remakes at some point because those are the only games that don't have equivalents in the remake continuity yet, but Caitlin is one of the most interesting Elite Four members to me, and she's kind of reliant on the Sinnoh Battle Frontier to be so effective. The cut features of BDSP not only make the game itself worse, but also risk making a future game slightly worse as well.

[@pkmnproductions7461]

@@lordpsi99 Gen 6 is already meh what more can they fuck up?

[@gix.y]

Omg, gen 5 holds a very special place in my heart, so if they mess it up that'll be terrible...

[@Lulleebee]

Your bugged fight with Dialga is probably the most intriguing bug I’ve ever seen. It’s unbelievable that it was still left in

[@cleliaoconnell3705]

I agree... I hope they didn't notice and also hope they knew and wanted to fix it with the day 1 patch. To tell the truth, I don't know which option is worse.

[@Lulleebee]

@@cleliaoconnell3705 it’s not absolutely insane that it was left in but it’s clear that this game didn’t have much time for playtesting so they probably just literally didn’t notice it

[@vivecanada1]

I've heard of the bug before, with the most likely cause either setting the story flag with sunnyshore, or setting that flag by catching Uxie (which they patched out) early. Basically, you can't complete that bit of story, because the story flag to do the event is no longer set to the proper value.

[@Danominator]

My jaw dropped when I heard that day one soundtrack comparison. Quite possibly the worst MIDI-slap I've ever seen from a AAA company's game.

[@Nathan-rb3qp]

What about Dragon Quest 11?

[@MastaGambit]

@@Nathan-rb3qp That's not a case of a midi-slap. That's just a case of an old and ornery composer who literally had dementia and wasn't able to accept criticism.

[@mparagames]

@@MastaGambit huh

[@MastaGambit]

@@mparagames What?

[@mparagames]

@@MastaGambit i don't know what you're talking about; i'm not saying that you're wrong, i just don't know the context at all, care to explain?

[@xLadyRaine]

Psyduck’s dead stare during the contest said it all smh

[@orcas800]

Your comments about missing content based on when you play really hit me hard. When I was a kid I did not have a lot of money and had to wait for rare game sales or events like Christmas, Birthday, etc. I remember missing events and not having access to cool pokemon that my classmates did because I did not have the game yet, and then when I eventually got it then the pokemon were gone. It was always a major bummer. I think it was worse in Pokemon Ranger Guardian Signs where you could not have entire episodes of content because they were events. I literally had no way to play those stories because I did not have the event. I think Pokemon Conquest did a better job of that by releasing passwords, so you could access them later. It is also nice that you can reset the game and not lose that content. Also, speaking of alt companies working on pokemon. I really wish game freak would take input or let Monoliftsoft make a Pokemon game. Can you imagine what kind of open-world game or amazing game that would be?

[@Laterose15]

Monolith making a Pokemon game would be the Pokemon game I've always dreamed of

[@off-the-grounder568]

Magearna’s QR code was event Pokémon done right. The code never expires, and it’s all over the internet.

[@jadenkarpoff9158]

I honestly can’t comprehend why they ditched mega evolutions. I get it constricted team composition, but it was the coolest gimmick by far. Z moves were just alright and dynamax is pretty lame.

[@Sasiwa30]

Not only the lamest gimmick. It also a problematic for competitive battling. For 2 years, competitors still don't like dynamax.

[@aeroga2383]

Fuck Mega evolutions. The worst of the 3 gimmicks by far

[@Gamedraco]

@@aeroga2383 I could care less for all 3 gimmicks plus the forth in Primal Reversions.

[@nobodyimportant4778]

Dynamax just felt like a cheap attempt to recapture mega evolutions for less effort. I've yet to meet even one person that hates mega evolutions but can explain *why*

[@Gamedraco]

@@nobodyimportant4778 I hate Mega Evolutions because they completely destroyed the previous 5 generations efforts to make the games more and more balanced. Before megas, stats and movesets dictated which Pokemon were best. Once Megas came along, a few Pokemon got so supercharged that it started preferring Pokemon with megas over non-megas, making it extremely unbalanced. Primal Reversions made it even worse when they aren't capped to only one Pokemon and time per battle like mega. Nothing was more broken and overpowered in Pokemon History as the triple battle team of Mega Rayquaza, Primal Groudon, and Primal Kyogre. I remember how broken Mewtwo was in Gen 1, but the team of Mega Rayquaza, Primal Groudon, and Primal Kyogre was significantly more broken that Gen 1 Mewtwo.

[@domicraft6341]

It is sad to me that in the end this is the one Chance we had for a Gen4 Remake. The start of the DS. The era which brought Pokémon further than anything before. And now it is side by side with the worst era in Pokémon possible. Back then they pushed it to the limit until BW2. The 3Ds era introduced optional easy mode and became more linear, plus they cut the postgame. While it didn't feel like they're moving forward it was a good time. Breeding was very easy and aside from the USUM cashgrab none title felt like a total disaster. Although I can understand people being dissapointed by Sun and Moon. The biggest problem on 3Ds was Pokémon Bank being the only way to transfer Pokémon. With that the monetization being number 1 priority started to take over. And nowadays they do what's nessecary. I don't wanna blame Gamefreak in particular although they don't know how to create 3D Environments by 2020 standards. But the whole way the series heads with their main games is trash. It is sad that instead doing what they could do they decide to pump the whole money into mobile games to get even more money back (btw some of the people playing gacha are addicted to stuff like this and Pokémon in particular is aimed at children. Fantastic.) When coming back to Sinnoh I will stay on the DS and recommend you to do the same. Both Diamond and Pearl have nearly the same content than the remakes minus the underground. Even the bad Pokédex is the same. And Platinum is basically a fixed version (minus DP exclusive Mons which is stupid) and on top of that if you want to transfer Pokémon from GBA to the DS you only need to have a Nintendo DS Lite. No extra cost.

[@JOCoStudio1]

Honestly, I think I'll pick up renegade platinum if I ever want a remastered sinnoh game. It solves some of the dated things like over reliance on HMs and single use TMs without dumping in a whole host of problems. You can combine it with a HGSS walking with Pokémon hack so BDSP doesn't even have that as a plus.

[@becausesakamoto5938]

I've never heard ANYONE else talk about the "Pokemon Diamond and Pearl Adventures!" manga, not just the main series "Pokemon Special". It's easily my favorite Pokemon manga series and so underrated, it's the main reason why Plusle and Minun are my favorite Pokemon (along with Pokemon Ranger). Glad to hear you mention it

[@compatriot852]

This game feels like such an insult to gen 4 fans. It literally fails at what pretty much every remake did before it to the point where Platinum (a game from 2008) has more content than this abomination.

[@eclecticmuso]

Worse still dp have more content than bdsp without the day one patch.

[@domicraft6341]

@@eclecticmuso And at least the GTS of DP was for free and available early on. And you could also transfer GBA Pokémon easily (and for free as well) after completing the Pokedex (which should be easy if you fought every trainer - you usually miss only 1 or 2 mons that you can find easily). Also DP didn't have a 20 Minute timer and I'm not sure if the number of battle modes is the same in the remakes.

[@vesstig]

It hurts seeing how they treated Gen 4 when Gen 3 was given such a facelift but here they dropped the ball so friggin hard it fell through the Earths mantle.

[@runezunn6655]

@@vesstig Agreed and I enjoy Gen 4. I believe the OG game did it better than these 'remakes' by leagues over.

[@gentlemancharmander4411]

The remakes are a thousand times better by making that barely playable slog of a game actually fun for once

[@Gamedraco]

They even botched my all time favorite Pokemon moment in the Magikarps flopping about on the blown up Lake Valor Lake Bed in BD/SP. The Magikarps flop too fast to be "Weakly Flopping About" in BD/SP compared to D/P/PT.

[@theurbanreanimator7244]

Speed doesnt exactly equate to power

[@Gamedraco]

@@theurbanreanimator7244 I have seen both the D/P/PT and the BD/SP versions of the Blown Up Lake Valor Lake Bed. The D/P/PT Magikarp Sprites flop slowly while the BD/SP Magikarp Models flop at the same speed as a Magikarp in battle or being viewed in the Party or a Box.

[@LaNoir.]

you must really hate magikarp if that's your favourite scene

[@robertlupa8273]

I loved clicking on the Magikraps and hearing their funny sounds.

[@Gamedraco]

@@robertlupa8273 And the "A Magikarp is weakly flopping about." line with it.

[@frannavarro-efejota-5018]

The idea of the faithful remakes falls apart the moment you consider Fairy type anyways. That alone makes it so you'll need to rebalance every trainer in the game or the game, so you might as well aim to go for the definitive experience. ORAS' main campaign was also broken because of this, so they had that game as a stepping stone to learn from. I kinda wish these remakes were the 2022 fall titles instead and that Scarlet moved over to 2023. Arceus was enough to carry 2022... But at the same time, they would have totally released Arceus with 2 months less of development.

[@crescent_sun482]

To be completely fair to ORAS while you can massacre most of the main story with Fairies, you get punched in the throat, specifically by a large Mega-Evolved metal spider with 145 base ATK and Tough Claws and a STAB Steel move that can raise its already astronomically high ATK, for using Fairies at the end of the main game.

[@crescent_sun482]

@yoshiwoollyworld yep Mystical Fire helps but if you can't out speed and ohko it and you're a fairy with no neutrality to steel/a poor phys-def you're dead

[@vivigarr]

I think you put more thought and effort into this video than they did with their game.

[@amelia3291]

i’m so scared for gen 5. my first pokemon game at age 8, my favorite, my beloved. it will always have a special place in my heart and if they do it injustice i will cry.

[@xbon1]

It doesnt need a remake. Nothing after gen 3 needs a remake. The original reason for remakes were to get games in bank/home for transference and 4 wasn’t necessary so no effort was put in it nor would effort be put in a 5make

[@realmasker8647]

@@xbon1it atleast deserves the legends treatment, so does johto tbh

[@OnionArcade]

@@xbon1they JUST announced they will shut down bank and transfer tool in the near future. They may need remakes 😢

[@a.x.x8184]

@@xbon1Gen 5 does need a remake wtf. Gen 5 had 2 years of being out (2011-2012) and it was hated so fckn much and before people could enjoy it and play thru it XY the first 3D games were out and outshined gen 5, and we never fought seven sages and shadow triad in the main story of BW1 or even get to know N’s sisters backstory, and WHO DOESNT want to see Unova remade fully fledged 3D? Gen 5 (BW1&2) NEEDS remakes.

[@Ryan_2218]

⁠@@a.x.x8184Personally, I think gen 5 would be better off getting a 2D remake somehow or the legends treatment. If they do 3D remakes, I feel like it’s almost guaranteed they’d be awful, unfortunate

[@rosexknight]

I feel so bad for Gen 4 fans. I know plenty who are happy with the remaster, but I also know plenty who were expecting something like HGSS or ORAS or at least Platinum and they just…didn’t. I’m a Gen 2 fan, and I was OVERJOYED with HGSS. It had everything I wanted in a remake. And when SWSH came out, I was excited to maybe sometime get Johto in 3D. But honestly, if this is the way remakes go, I’ll just stick with HGSS.

[@pkmnproductions7461]

I hope Gen 2 gets remade again before Gen 5 just to see Johto modern and see what direction they head before touching Unova.

[@rosexknight]

@@pkmnproductions7461 That would be super fun! But I think they’re going fairly chronologically right now, except when it comes to Kanto remakes. I was kinda hoping the remakes would start being like Let’s Go, because I really liked the aesthetic of Let’s Go, even if people were mad about the gameplay because they’re dumb. But if they’re going to start letting third parties do remakes…We’ll things don’t bode well for Unova.

[@luchotenks2310]

Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver delivered so hard it is unreal. They are hands down the best Pokemon games I've ever played. Only god knows how many times I've replayed them and how many more I will. Plenty (but sadly not all) of the features from these games became staples in later versions. Here's a quick reminder of some of the great stuff HGSS did: * Fun minigames both within the catridge (Pokeathlon) and with an external hardware (Pokewalker) * Retrocompatibility with an earlier generation to preserve your old Pokemon (Pal Park) * GTS to help you complete the Pokedex * National Dex * Awesome post game content (Battle Frontier & Safari Zone) * Walking Pokemon * Character cameos * Gift starters from earlier generations * 2 mascot legendaries available for capture * 2 different regions with their respective gyms * Re-matches with gym leaders and regular trainers (no VS seeker though) * Repeatable methods for obtaining rare items like evolutionary stones * Move tutors * Permanent running shoes * Shortcuts for multiple key items * Re-spawning roaming Pokemon * Masuda Method for easier Shinies * Updated breeding mechanics (Power items and Everstone) * Stats judge * Intuitive PC box interface * Touchscreen-friendly Overworld interface to the point you can play the game without having to press any button at all (except for the d-pad of course) * Retro soundtrack for the nostalgia Honestly, the only thing that might keep these 2 games from being the ultimate Pokemon experience would be perhaps the absence of modern and updated game mechanics that make the game unnecessarily grindy, eg. nature mints, bottle caps, destiny knot, PC stats judge, hidden abilities, etc. And even then, you can still get most of of these by patching them to a DS rom. It will be a while until we are again able to see this sheer amount of content and updated game mechanics in one single initial release. Nowadays you'd be lucky to get half the experience you got from HGSS even after paying extra for DLCs or a subscription service.

[@zacharybecker8228]

@@rosexknight that's cus the let's go gameplay sucks

[@dragonmaster3030]

We should never get a second remake, who the hell remakes a remake, it's already been remade, the most I would ask for is simply a quality port to the modern system with maybe a few touches but thats it, theirs no need to remake it a second time

[@kaoru9829]

I'm a bit over an hour through this video, and it's convinced me to play platinum instead of the remakes. platinum looks so pretty in comparison. I'd take pretty pixel art over buggy + poorly designed 3d art.

[@Gamedraco]

Platinum has way more content too.

[@ExtremeAce]

Platinum is miles better than BD/SP. Great improvement upon D/P, large amounts of extra content, and overall one of the best Pokemon games.

[@kingosnake7158]

tbh, gamefreak seems super eager to make 3d pokémon games but honestly, i kinda wanna see a pixel art game again but in higher definition. the pixel art was so gorgeous in hgss gen four (could be nostalgia blind tho lol)

[@lexsombersunrise]

Yes please just play Platinum. It's leagues better than the glitchy mess that BDSP is, and the only reason I even keep my save file is for future Home compatibility (maybe??)

[@rogue1248]

you have great taste i'll give you that.

[@justsomejojo]

Videos like this make me sad because they're right. Pokemon impacted my life growing up and until today so much, not just because the games were fun but also because it'd spark genuine interest in drawing, videogames and designing my own creatures. It formed a lot of my hobbies and interests and it's really fun. But nowadays, I stick to anything up to (and even including, barely) Gen6 because the more recent games are kinda gut punches. I'm currently playing Brilliant Diamond after a friend (who grew up on DP) lent me his copy and it's disheartening to see how little care went into the game beyond "these are the elements it needs to have, put them in". Did you know all the really powerful TMs originally available only in the gamecorner can be bought for cheap and unlimited in the department store, just because the gamecorner doesn't exist anymore? Yeah, that Flamethrower and Psychic TM that was meant for way later oneshots basically anything and I can have 20 of them if I want. It's stupid.

[@gmk9321]

I have every generation of Pokémon games and I can attest to how as the games get more recent less and less care is put into them and it’s sad even 8 months after watching this video

[@richynodar]

I do basically the the same thing not playing or thinking of games past gen 6 much at all lol. They really did go downhill post ds era and it’s crazy to think about

[@TheForgottenTainted]

Someone finally has the balls to talk about how terrible these remakes are. These would be 10 times better if they just remade platinum and did not lock a bunch of the dex behind the postgame. Just that would have made this way better. But what we have is a buggy mess, and clearly rushed remakes. GameFreak should have developed this themselves.

[@yoloswaggins7121]

Exactly. Even if am charitable and excuse all of the bugs and lack of new features, it is absolutely inexcusable that Platinum features are not included. The original D/P were broken and Platinum fixed a lot of their issues and for some reason these remakes didn't.

[@idkjustchangingmyname7343]

It’s cause the creators were forced to make these and allowed to make arceus. Pokémon arceus is the best Pokémon game in years and it shows.

[@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502]

What do you mean "finally"? There are plenty of defenders of the remake (somehow) but disliking it is far from unpopular either.

[@Gamedraco]

Not to mention adding Pokemon Gen 5 and later. Previous remakes recognized the newer generations after the original games came out.

[@peach4hubby69]

GameFreak should have made them ? You forgot that SwSh games exist then, is all I will say.

[@mectainea5575]

Honestly the most laughable part is that BDSP is somehow even worse than RED and BLUE in the glitches department (especially in its launch state). With the original gen 1 games most of the most notable glitches were so out of the way in terms of normal gameplay that you had to actively look for them or is ludicrously rare to encounter. BDSP has a literal soft lock that players could accidently find themselves and a void glitch that completely blows the original glitch in DPP out of the water with how easy it is to trigger.

[@TheAbsol7448]

The bugs in RBY actually did affect the game experience, but a lot of players didn't notice it. Unless you actually tried to use Swords Dance, or if you used Hyper Beam often.

[@starempresshel1211]

Badge boost glitch being a very common one that affected game experience but they still have a point. Red and Blue are more stable than BDSP to the point crashing the old Gen 1 game, as buggy as it is, is surprisingly difficult whereas in this game, catching a pokemon can softlock which is just... unacceptable.

[@kirin1230]

RBY were held together by a goddam shoestring. It's absolutely shameful that these are somehow WORSE.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

How to make Red and Blue break: go out of your way to capture a pokemon that doesn't exist by manipulating the values the game pulls for encounters, and then use a move not properly coded. How to make BDSP break: Walk incorrectly, or catch any pokemon.

[@Schnort]

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 I mean, if you mash buttons hard enough gen 1 will break. But you have to actually do that, it's not something you will run into in normal play.

[@Terron145]

I have not had an opportunity to comb through the comments section to see if anyone has offered clarification for this, but I'd like to point out something that contributes to the discussion of difficulty and the intended audience. My observations have led me to the conclusion that the game was designed with veterans in mind, specifically fans of the originals who have commit large swathes of the original games to memory. - It is comparable to the DS remake of Final Fantasy 4, which employs many predatory "Ha! Gotcha!" moments with basically every boss in the game, preying upon working knowledge of the SNES experience to have former bosses behave differently in radical ways. In BDSP, the Trainers you face do not suddenly start using competitive - or super grimy strats - until you hit the Elite 4; they are doing this as early as Roark's gym. Roark's Cranidos comes equipped with Headbutt, a confirmed Jolly Nature, and potentially a perfect 31 IVs in that Speed stat. Why? To try and flinch-lock you, regardless of the Starter you chose. In Gardenia's Gym, one the Trainers gave her Turtwig Iron Tail...for some reason, but the one I want to highlight is the Trainer whose Budew uses Rest and Sleep Talk. Like, it's the second Gym and you're pulling Rest Talk? Game, please. The other Gym Leaders only escalate from here, like Maylene using her Meditite for Light Screen, and it's holding a Light Clay for the 3-Turn extension. - A few more examples, just to sell the idea. Mars' first encounter in the Valley Windworks does see the use of Fake Out from her Purugly, even in the originals. In BDSP, however, they upgraded her AI so that, after her Zubat lands Supersonic, she will switch to Purugly, potentially for free if you hit yourself since we're back to the 66% chance of self-damage, and then she'll pop Fake Out to steal another turn from you. What about Jupiter? In the originals, her Skuntank had Night Slash, which is pretty threatening since it's STAB and can crit; for BDSP? They gave it Acid Spray to lower your Special Defense along with friggin' Flamethrower. Second Gym badge and we are getting hit with Flamethrower. Her Zubat also attempts to **Toxic** Stall using Mean Look and Poison Fang, while healing through wimpy Absorb and fishing for no-damage turns with Supersonic. This would have been made more apparent if Zubat wasn't so easy to dispatch, and if it had kept Giga Drain like it did in the originals, but you get the idea. The difficulty curve admittedly does not last too long; for me it really was just the first stretch, but one other thing I want to point out is how the innate EXP All brought with it a nerf to EXP yields. In...I think basically every mainline game before this, Trainer Pokemon would yield a higher amount of base experience compared to wild Pokemon of the same level, which made Sun/Moon and SwSh notably easier since they also had innate EXP All. SuMo is somewhat balanced in that filling the dex and constantly switching your team around is heavily encouraged; if you ignore the dex, your team might be underprepared for challenges to come since the EXP you get from that is quite substantial. - I don't understand why this is so difficult for the devs. They already made the perfect leveling curve system for the franchise when they created Gen 5, only to abandon it after B2W2. ORAS is the closest we've gotten to that system since and I don't have faith that we'll ever see it again. Fantastic video, by the way; keep it up.

[@taputrainer8463]

Even though I haven’t played bdsp myself, my suggestion to fix this for future games is to adjust the amount of evs and ivs to fit the difficulty in that point of the game. And since most players of the story won’t grind for evs or the Pokémon they catch won’t have perfect ivs, they shouldn’t ever make them as they were in bdsp because the player will almost always be at a disadvantage and it’s just not fair in my eyes. That’s why I think adjusting the evs and ivs for difficultly would be much more of a fair challenge for the player

[@louiepikmin3184]

Another thing about this game is literally everyone forgot about it right after release. No seriously, I've been looking for videos about what glitches have been patched in the newest update and I can't find anything because no one cares about these games anymore

[@Schnort]

Hours upon hours and days upon days of Furret Walk until gen 4 remakes are announced, all for nothing.

[@YBPaladin]

After the transition to 3D, the pokemon games just feel like wasted potential. And it's the potential that keeps drawing people back in like a gravity trap

[@_Quxyz]

I feel like next time for Scarlet & Violet I might listen to a review before buying now.

[@indecisive_rose8738]

Gen 6 got away with it the most of being the first 3d pokemon game and I think gen 7 gets away with aswell for trying something new if not as big as gen 6 and also pushing the 3ds alot Gen 8 is where there's just no excuse imo it's the most disappointing gen in the franchise outside of spin offs and legends acruse

[@chriswentz5197]

USUM and Oras were good,but maybe because i like oras way more because i didnt miss the battle frontier,Heck i was afraid to do it because when i first beat a rom hack of emerald called super mega emerald i used hundreds of cheats,And all my pokemon turned into bad eggs,and that happened while i was in the frontier

[@chriswentz5197]

USUM and Oras were good,but maybe because i like oras way more because i didnt miss the battle frontier,Heck i was afraid to do it because when i first beat a rom hack of emerald called super mega emerald i used hundreds of cheats,And all my pokemon turned into bad eggs,and that happened while i was in the frontier

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

@@indecisive_rose8738 Sun and Moon are really good Pokémon games though. Behind Gen 5, it's my favorite generation. I really hope gen 9 takes more than a few pages from Gen 7's book

[@pauljohnong5924]

I feel like those who grew up of Gen IV were robbed of a genuinely good remake. Thankfully Legends Arceus seems to be a genuinely good game and a step forward. (A friend of mine with a modded switch who DESPISES BDSP who was a gen IV guy really liked Arceus) I'm a Gen III guy so I'll just play Platinum again, but dang... I feel sorry for those who wanted to relive Diamond and Pearl.

[@violetsparkles5453]

im a gen 3 guy too and got my boyfriend to play sapphire ( he somehow never played pokemon as a kid). even still, he can tell these remakes are garbage.

[@SoupCanMafia]

I'll still clown on it for not doing its best, but honestly, if it's actually really good regardless of graphical fidelity? Then I hope it can become a genuine success! Especially if it butchers the whole "oh you gotta have two versions" that it's been relying on.

[@SadMoribund]

@@SoupCanMafia It does and honestly that's great. They removed every tedious thing about completing the Pokedex and actually encourage you to do it, a great step forward. Everything Arceus has done is leaps and bounds better then standards set by XY & forward, and if they managed to do better on a sequel then perhaps Pokemon can one again be known as a incredible franchise. We're not sure yet, but I think Legends has given the community a glimmer of hope.

[@gbdeck200]

Definitely so Just a soulless cashgrab and ruins any chance of a good remake for it for years now

[@ultimaterecoil1136]

@@thecod2345 I mean oras is a worse remake then bdsp in some aspects ( in particular the trainers themselves aren’t updated at all from Ruby and sapphire in most cases where as practically every trainer is different in bdsp and these differences are generally improvements) so I wouldn’t say oras is much better. Both I’d say are worse then their 3rd version but bdsp the core gameplay they at least tried to balance around improved movepools even if it’s still relatively easy if you go all out the attempt is appreciated ect yet the secondary modes are worse meanwhile oras while it lacks battle frontier it doesn’t butcher any secondary modes as bad as bdsp but is a far worse balanced experience as a mightyena in that game can be roughly as strong as a swampert in emerald ( moxie being fairly strong especially with a strong priority move like sucker punch) even without considering gyms not having megas and giving you a free legendary halfway through that screws the difficulty curve even more ( tate and Lisa already desperately needed their emerald team as without their claydol they were one of the easiest gym leaders they didn’t need to deal with a mega legend too) making the game’s difficulty curve even more of a mess then x and y.

[@c.w.simpsonproductions1230]

One thing that absolutely infuriates me is how these games are handling the mystery gift/Mythical Pokemon events. At first, it seems like they're honoring the original theme of releasing these special items to trigger events. But... what I hate is the restrictive aspect. It's repeating the exact problem that the original Mystery Gifts/Mythical Events had. It's restricting new players from experiencing these events in the future. One example: I'm a full time college student, so I was so busy that by the time I remembered the Shaymin event, it was already the next month and the event was gone. So... no Shaymin event for me. And next month was Darkrai. The Darkrai event could ONLY be done in the month of April. If you downloaded the ticket and then forgot to got back because life and work got in the way... well, F-you, you gotta wait another year. And these games are around for a long time, so new players who get the game in holiday 2022 and so on, means those certain events are locked out for the future generations of players. Like, one good example done right is hunting the Regis in Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald and the remakes. No time lock, no limited time event. You're given a puzzle, and it's up to you to figure it out. It gives you a sense of mystery and fun, and an incredibly satisfying feeling when you solve it and confront the Regis. So, either they should have incorporated the Mystery Gift events into the main game or kept the Mystery Gift Wi-fi links up in perpetuity. Like how the 3DS virtual release of Crystal included the GX Ball event pre-programmed. And the fact that they incorporated certain events like the famous Azure Flute for completing certain accomplishments in Let's Go Arceus, which requires no time lock, shows that they could think of that.

[@TheHomieLew]

I feel you man, I was in the same boat in April and forgot to get the Darkrai event - though also partly because I was distracted by the azure flute update and started shiny hunting arceus

[@meloelebi1996]

I got a lot of events back then but missed Shaymin, my Platinum also got stolen so I lost the Rotom event not long after I got it. You have a good point

[@Henry_Mo]

The glitch with dialga is what happend to me in pokemon diamond on the ds when i did the darkrai void glitch. I can catch azelf and uxie for some reason. But the leaders just kinda are there. Exact same glitch but in 3d. Its kinda just a 3d version of the the game on the ds with worse contests.

[@Alex-mq6qi]

"Am I weird for preferring the Distorsion Room to the Distorsion World?" Yeah, imagine the Distorsion World in modern graphics. How could you not prefer that?

[@positivea9111]

Because he want to rush a lot in games like a speed runner. Yes I know he play this game before but if I’m gonna to be honest that not a good excuse that like saying what the point talking to the NPC since I talk to them a year ago that’s stripping the fun into the game.

[@pascalsimioli6777]

@@positivea9111 I mean... You're answering for them, that can't be an honest thing to do. Personally I think there wasn't much to do in the distortion world, I think pokemon fans are so starved of content that they consider "pushing rocks in a blue place" as entertaining

[@positivea9111]

@@pascalsimioli6777 Yeah I know that the distortion world rock pushing is tbh a bit too underwhelming but if I’m honest if I had to choose to keep the distortion world or the short distortion room I would’ve chosen the distortion world if I’m gonna to be honest because at least there something instead of nothing I just wish they would’ve change it instead of rock pushing because again it felt underwhelming. Maybe it just me.

[@Lucifronz]

@@pascalsimioli6777 He had four months to answer for himself. I think it's safe to say he doesn't give a shit and the floor is now open.

[@SquaulDuNeant]

Based

[@beeziebubs2756]

When they first announced this game, the whole thing reeked of being a cheap, dishonest cash grab. It felt more like a scam than an actual game. And from everything I’ve seen and heard about this game, I was right to feel that way. And that’s just sad. Pokémon has always been one of *those* games for me and millions of others; it was an escape from all the shitty things that were constantly happening in life. To see it reach this state where the games are cheap and low effort is so disheartening. Even with Arceus Legends, despite having fun when not being forced to read and watch 2 hours worth of cutscenes, it still feels cheap and hastily done. Game Freak continues to think they can push out terrible content for maximum profit on brand loyalty alone, and they’ve been right to think that way. We *need* to stop jumping on every single release because, otherwise, they’re going to keep pulling this crap on fans

[@Freelancer90]

I 100% agree. I was trying to tell my friends about the red flags I saw when they released the gameplay trailers, but I was dismissed.

[@mistake1197]

@@Freelancer90 my friends all knew the games they were buying were bad. But bought them anyway 💀

[@goatslayer3160]

You're all just haters! Bdsp are not only the best Pokemon games, but the best games that will ever exist! At least until GF releases the next masterpieces! You should be greatful they decide to diligently make new games for us out of the kindness of their hearts! Now if you'll excuse me, I have some GF employees to fellate.

[@lunaangeleclipse9745]

@@goatslayer3160 lmao

[@Diphenhydra]

I mean, I enjoyed the game. Is that cause I hadn’t played Pokémon since the originals? Probably. But I think the thing you’re missing is that people buy them because they do like the games. It’s not just brand loyalty it’s genuine enjoyment.

[@KaizenMethod12]

This game selling 6 million copies for the amount of issues it has just means TPC can produce/outsource a game that does the bare minimum for maximum profits. Fans who dislike this need to not only voice dissatisfaction but straight up not buy the game. Why buy something you know you aren't going to be satisfied with?

[@whymustyoulookhere7112]

Same with SW/SH. They were (and still are) considered one of of not the worst game yet, but sold over 22 million copies. Pokemon is just to big to fail.

[@bingbongdingdong867]

Because we're now in the kind of atmosphere where no sales = *kill the franchise, not profitable anymore* to devs

[@YWNBAW69]

Pokemon is the Drake of games. So mid, yet so successful.

[@netherwolf3012]

I and many others knew this would happen after Sword and Shield, but no one really listened and look where we are.

[@mrex666productions7]

@@whymustyoulookhere7112 Just look at what happened to Call of Duty or FIFA. People think these games are too big to fail. They are NOT. Soon, we will be all eating the same fruits from the same tree.

[@cherrycreamsoda4253]

IMO gen 7 was the last generation where Pokémon felt… special. You could get every legendary, you could get every Pokémon, the events were cool, you could have so many different battle styles - have every Pokémon on your team be able to mega evolve, have everyone hold a z-crystal, only use Pokémon with exclusive Z-moves, etc. It sucks that we probably won’t go back to something like that again.

[@VendettaSoundtracks]

It was definitely the most "complete" generation. Literally nothing was missing, and every addition/innovation from previous games all carried over. Alongside the new mechanics like Z-Moves, you also still had character customization, mega evolution and more.

[@rooknook5379]

Honestly I will fight on this point till I die that Gen 7 was actually very good in the stance of pokemon game, the ONLY issue with it is the speed of its story and gameplay. I don't mean it in the sense of XY's stuttering, I mean general gameplay, custcenes, etc, just feel much slower.

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

In Gen 7 the rot had already been setting in for the second generation in a row. But, I will grant it was the last time you could see some semblance of effort. But remember gen 7 was also pretty bad. They released Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon less than 365 days after Sun and Moon, and introduced a large number of new pokemon mid-generation with no patch. Prior to Gen 7, the only instances of new pokemon introduced mid-generation had been alternate forms that, while not usable in other games, could still be traded, and the Spiky-Eared Pichu which is unique to HGSS alone and couldn't be traded even between those games. Unless you count Black/White Kyurem, anyway. Gen 7 went to town with introducing new pokemon and making incompatibiltiies with Midday Lycanroc, Poinpole and a bunch of extra Ultra Beasts.

[@justinfrazier9555]

​@MrJoeyWheeler as someone who never played the original Sun or Moon and skipped generations 4-6...Ultra Moon was the game that was my first look into Pokemon as an adult. I last played Emerald on a Gameboy SP. So my outlook on Generation 7 does not have the gamer fatigue of getting two of the same games back to back in less than a year. I will say this. There is no reason to ever play Sun or Moon. Anyone who plays Generation 7 will pick the Ultra versions.

[@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon]

Sun and Moon had a lot of problems, but is clear that those weren't born out of laziness and greed.

[@waleedkhalid7486]

This idea that a game isn’t quite close to be finished in the same year it is projected to be released is ludicrous- yet lots of people do claim ‘game not final’ to be the saving by grace. I’ve argued with people that games are time intensive projects that need a lot of work to get right. If you have to go back and ch age something, it usually isn’t just one thing you have to change. It might seem like a slight color correction is warranted based on the juxtaposition of a character and an specific environment, but is that color correct for other environs? Does it change the atmosphere to something you didn’t intend? Or what about changing a price of clothing- does it clip through certain models at certain times? Does it look natural or correct at all reasonable times? So when I see a game that is still struggling to get basic things fixed less than year until launch, I get worried. When Anthem came out, I played the demo that released 2 weeks prior. Based off the demo I knew right away that the game seemed fun, but empty. The main hub was not bustling with NPCs as advertised, most NPCs had no dialogue, and other issues that told me that the game probably needed a few more months at least. I did not buy the game. I did not get on the hype train. And 2 yrs later, the game shut down due to the exact issues I noted from the demo. When a company releases a trailer or demo, that is their opportunity to REALLY sell you that product, so it had better be the best looking product it can possibly be. If you see major issues in a trailer or demo, then know that the game itself will have issues. Even Legends arceus, which people seem to really like, has an issue where most of the gameplay is VERY repetitive, but also tedious. Repetition is fine, tedium is not. Also the side quest system is quite shallow- mostly consisting of ‘go to location and catch Pokémon’ or ‘find X items’. It’s dressed up busy work to pad run time. Though to be fair this is the norm for games of that genre. Still, these were issues that were visible in the trailers, but people said ‘no, footage not final’. Sorry for the Ted talk, but I think it’s important to be critical. It only helps keep the companies honest, and the consumer informed.

[@AcousticHarmonia]

I didn't actually know about Anthem getting shut down, but did know about it failing after it was pumped out. Anthem was actually developed here in my city, so I remember as part of our game design classes the professor would show us new trailers to Anthem to talk about how that was the next big game being developed here, the next big thing the gaming industry would know Edmonton for. But then it shipped the way it did... I've actually seen a couple interesting videos on Anthem before, apparently it was given 7 year development time, but they wasted 5 years on pre-production and then had 2 years to bumrush actually making the game that EA refused to budge on the timeframe for. I haven't yet played Legends Arceus myself, will be as of later today though. I've heard of a lot of people having a lot of fun with it, though graphically it might be the most unimpressive game I've seen on the Switch. Hopefully I don't find it super repetitive and tedious as is described here, but only time will tell it seems...

[@sanguisugaboggie]

I wish games of this scale were passion projects and not a cash cow. Very well put

[@canaldecasta]

Arceus is Anthem once again. Every aspect that may look fun or interesting is superficial. The game is empty and its low quantity of just 97 families repeating over and over make such a shallow experience... The freaking Volcano is 10 meters tall at best lol.

[@TheAbsol7448]

The gameplay loop in Legends: Arceus is pretty repetitive, but it's so much more fun than I was expecting it to be, so it doesn't really bother me. The repetitive stuff happens _really_ fast, so it's pretty easy to move on from it to something more interesting.

[@reallyrll]

Yeah, as somebody actively choosing to bother filling out Pokedex entries to 100% conpleteion... I have to say Legends Arceus is doing a really good job of making what is repetitive fun. The fact that it's so fast is absolutely a factor. The fact that I can sneak up on 3 Drifloon, catch two, accidentally startle the other, fight it, and clear two other Pokedex requirements by nailing it with a shadow ball, and move on in the span of about a minute or two means it doesn't wind up feeling like busywork at all. Deciding what mons to use on top of that so I can conjoin "defeat X number of pokemon" tasks with "see X pokemon use Y move Z amount of times" adds a great deal of strategy to it. I figured out I could finish Wurple's "see Poison sting 25 times" objective faster by pitting my Wurmple against wild ones, who only know poison sting - doubling the amount of moves I recorded per battle. Then I discovered the Wurmple would run away due to my level even though my Wurmple was only level 5, so I had to go back to sneaking.. and since I'm sneaking around anyway I might as well catch all those Starly I need too. And I just passed by some Shinxs on the way here - let me check my Pokedex, I need to take those out with Ground type attacks? Good thing I remembered to take out a Pokemon so I could do that too! I understand that kind of thing isn't for everyone. Not everybody has the same appetite for completion like that, and that's perfecrly okay. But Arceus isn't a bad game because it's repetitive - for a great deal of people, it's repetitve done really well, in a quick and engaging way that allows us to ignore the main quest in favor of getting lost catching Pokemon for hours.

[@Forged4War206]

On your point about changing Cynthia's theme to sound more unique, there are a lot of people that consider Cynthia's theme to be the holy grail of Pokemon music, so I'm sure they partly felt a bit pressured to not change it up too much without triggering backlash. I do agree with you though, for example I love Pokemon Legend's Arceus take on the theme, although it's used for Volo instead.

[@iandean1112]

Iris has taken that spot for me

[@yep9462]

@@iandean1112 Cynthia's theme is pretty cool but I feel like people partially rate it highly because they associate it with the battle itself. Personally it's between Lance/Red in GSC, "Gary"/the gen 1 rival in FRLG, and N for me

[@복福]

I agree on EVERYTHING but the distortion world part. You addressed so many points that Ive been thinking but no other reviewers have said. Now the part i disagree, distortion world in Pt is dated, but i think that means its best to modernize it and make it a mini dungeon for fun exploration. They couldve also given more lore around it since the alola games gave a possibility that it has a connection to the ultra space. Making it a single room/hallway just because the og area is dated sounds like a huge missed opportunity to me. Imo, since it is dated, it should be modernized.

[@defaultthedude]

Missed opportunity sounds like this entire game’s existence.

[@jaretco6423]

I liked the concept of it. But it does get boring. Especially when there's nothing interesting and the HM part killed it.

[@복福]

@@jaretco6423 thats why a remake is the perfect chance to make it good and not aged

[@Michael-lt5hb]

Something really changed with pokemon in gen 6 as it moved to 3D. You mentioned gimmicks but I think its far more than that. I'm always blown away that Gen 5 had custom animations for each pokemon, from both ends, and yet in newer titles they claim they have to remake all the models so we can't include this, but than its all imports and upscales anyway. Gen 7 felt like an attempt to recatch the magic and honestly it was solid enough enough that I enjoyed it, but gen 8 was a train wreck in almost every way it could be. The only consistent thing about pokemon anymore is waifus and music, but story, gameplay, and the overall product suffers. For a product that is guaranteed to sell, why are these games so lacking or have a story that doesn't make ANY sense? Sword and Shield sold 24 million copies, about a billion dollars in revenue, and yet look at the issues of that game. If there was every a media franchise surviving on life support from past good will its pokmeon, and I hate that it could be so much more.

[@ThePrismaticEnder]

Gen 6 solidified the downfall of pokemon going forward. After that gen 7 was polarising and gen 8 sucked hard. We just gotta hope now that gen 9 is at least better.

[@nbkarkat]

a year later, seeing this comment, and hoo boy.... we somehow keep thinking it surely can't get even worse. and yet it does

[@ZorotheGallade]

In gen 6 they committed to turning Pokémon to a full 3D series despite them not wanting to front the money to make it a quality 3D game from the start. They had a chance to turn back in gen 7? Maybe they did, but they wouldn't have taken it anyway. 3D was the "cool" thing to do, and in typical Japanese corporate fashion they would rather ruin everything the franchise stood for and screw over millions of customers than admit to a mistake, which they made in earnest anyway.

[@ZorotheGallade]

@@nbkarkat Can't wait for generation 10 where as soon as you put the cartridge in the slot it bricks your switch, broadcasts your credit card data over the entire internet, then explodes killing your pets.

[@deadmanfan1000]

They just going to run Pokémon into the ground now.

[@Arkenidae]

I think what's happening with the Spear Pillar is that, because you sequence broke the game, it doesn't know what to do with you in that space. You see, this game isn't actually BD. It's both of them. There's a toggle that indicates which version you're supposed to be playing. (So, essentially, the double pack for these games is a scam. You're paying for the same software twice, only difference is the toggle). Hence why you get both Adamant/Lustrous Orbs or get Palkia's background for the battle when in that state. The game doesn't know what version of itself you're playing anymore because you probably bypassed a flag check. It probably just flag checks enough to put Dialga there but past that it goes all "????".

[@dsshocktrooper7523]

Bruh 🤣

[@eclecticmuso]

I'm left speechless by the quality of this video man, you outdid yourself. This has to be up there with shaymays 7 hour analysis of omega ruby. You should be so proud of this.

[@AcousticHarmonia]

Thank you so much!

[@eclecticmuso]

@@AcousticHarmonia No worries man, keep up the good work! I tried sharing it to the pokemon subreddit but they don't allow links so I made a discussion thread instead. Your video deserves to be seen by as many people as possible.

[@emminet]

Ah, don't compare the models to mobile app stuff! Pokémon Masters actually has some good looking models, and the animations aren't too bad!

[@moonmoon11111]

Yeah, it’s rough when a FREE mobile app has better models than a $60 switch game..

[@frankfort332]

@@moonmoon11111 was the free mobile app funded and worked on by Gamefreak employees? This game wasn't

[@emminet]

@@frankfort332 The free mobile app (Pokémon Masters EX) is produced and developed by DeNA, not GF.

[@shedinjask]

@@moonmoon11111 tbf, gacha games can make a ton of money. free to play isnt a less profitable business model.

[@mrex666productions7]

Arguably also one of the 2 real redeeming qualities left for GO.

[@xemnasxiii3992]

Regarding the story of platinum, there's more that could have been exploited in a possible rewriting of the story especially when it comes to the Team Galactic, it's very possible to see some personality out of the commanders of Team Galactic but in Platinum only: Mars is very much the most devoted out of them all in post game she's the only one that gets angry at the player for trying to stop Cyrus's plans, actually she's the only one who gets worreid when Cyrus gets trapped in the distortion space and she's so emotionally affected by his disparition that when we find them in the post game side quest she's the first one to jump at us for answers and when all the fighting is done she quits the team to find him, followed closely by Jupiter who's sole reason to be there was because Cyrus was apparently "the only interesting thing in the galaxy team" and thinking about her next ventures making it clear she had no real reason for being a Galactic member and finally Saturn who ends up being the one who was all that time trying to understand Cyrus plans and the methods he went about them not understanding why he diddn't care that the player would try to prevent them from successing but when you meet him in the Galactic HQ after the league he admits that he knew from the beginning Cyrus ideals were wrong but he was motivated to follow Cyrus to understand his way of seeing things and he also has ideas on how to seem more genuine in this plan to reshape the world in a way that's beneficial for all. You can learn about Cyrus himself if you visit Sunnyshore city, you'll learn there was a kid that was very proficient with machinery that one day just vanished, the one thing of note being that he was always alone working on machines and not many people actually knew him and if you visit one of the house on the roads in the battle zone (a bit random i know) you can find an old man that presents himself as the grand parent of Cyrus, lamenting that the kid was always under pressure to have a perfect record to the point where he isolated himself from the world by working on machines. He feels guilty because he wished he had took the kid with him before cutting ties with the parents. Cyrus himself can be observed to gain a Crowbat through evolution of his Golbat betraying the facade that he shows of an emotionless man except it's fully possible to explain it that he was simply getting happier because his plans to creating his on world was getting closer and closer to fruition so his mood would improve as well. One last thing of note that is interesting for the pokemon lore imo, behind Cyrus in his HQ there's a computer that contains the data they acquired from studying the legendaries of the region and their myths and it's interesting to note that it mentions that pokeballs don't allow a deity to use the full extent of their power or at least it can't allow them to which is why they go out of their way to create the red chain. I understand this is a lot of subtext that's left to the player to find on their own but when you start piecing things together and the picture gets larger it really become a more coherent story where you understand that Galactic team really was just a tool for Cyrus to complete his plans and with PLA showing us that the Galactic team thing is a family buiseness of sorts they could have had something going but oh well

[@snivyboy168]

This is just so depressing, the more you get into the video, whenever you think they're bad enough the games somehow get worse

[@Colt-TV]

I'm probably the only person here who appreciates the classic random encounters. While I enjoy seeing overworld pokemon, the idea one could be hiding behind any bush at random and you "never know" whats gonna jump out, in a way, actually makes it feel more full/populated.

[@bountyhunter628]

No same, I largely prefer random encounters in my turn-based JRPGs. It feels more rewarding to find a rare or shiny Pokemon, and personally feels less frustrating trying to get a rare Pokemon to spawn than in, say, PLA where I gotta constantly move from on part of a map to another just in case it spawned in one of the multiple areas on the map you can find it. I got very frustrated looking for Alpha versions of Pokemon that aren't permaspawns lol

[@Deadflower019]

SwSh actually handled it alright, with Pokemon being hidden in the tall grass. But... some Pokemon can only be found on the overworld or from running into the hidden bits so...

[@snazzybull]

I sorta agree with this, although I wish pokemon had embraced the modernization of random encounters like how modern Square game did with their classic styled rpgs. For instance, in remakes of old final fantasy games or in the bravely default series you could adjust the frequency or completely turn off random battle encounters, and it added a depth of difficulty adjustment as well in the sense that if you wanted bosses to be more challenging you could reduce the amount of battles you encounter to gain exp. Its just nice to have options imo

[@positivea9111]

I enjoy for two reasons one for nuzlocke since you don’t know what will pop out and two surprise on what will you get.

[@meisterwu8922]

While i do agree with prefering random encounters, in no possible reality does that feel "more populated".

[@nesradub360]

I truly believe that if Iwata was still with us, Nintendo would not have tried to jump on all of the disgusting game industry trends that it has been doing as of late. Also, Charon is actually mentioned once in BDSP, in one of the books in the Rotom form room of the Galactic Eterna Building.

[@eluruguasho2148]

I was thinking just the same thing today, what would Nintendo be if he was still with us? Will we have a switch pro, fixed joycons? A good n64 emulator on the switch online expansion pack? And so much more like the Mario all stars game not being sold during limited time. And, of course, maybe good pokemon games :/

[@eluruguasho2148]

@@hitpeppens2932 I only think that because, in my opinion, the switch lacks a bit of power, it already struggles at the eshop wtf. Maybe not a literal switch pro, but I believe a good revision of the system is needed

[@hitpeppens2932]

@@eluruguasho2148 I understand, well the OLED model missed the mark in this? I don´t know...eshop is maybe little slower, than it was, yes. But there´s sooo many games on the system / shop today, maybe that´s the cause, too much content, but again, I don´t know. I´m curious what´s next from Nintendo too.

[@hitpeppens2932]

@@eluruguasho2148 Yeah I agree with that. Eshop is loaded with tones of things today and yes, it sometimes really struggle.

[@freshlycannedwater]

@@hitpeppens2932 It's just plain underpowered

[@catscanhavelittleasalami]

To think long time pokemon fans had been dreaming of a gen 4 remake for years... and this is what they got. Incredible. Please never make a remake of generation 5, Gamefreak.

[@loulou3676]

55:20 AS A CONTEST/RIBBON FAN I FEEL SO SEEN RIGHT NOW. Gen 3, 4, and 6 (ORAS) were all fantastic in their own way, but I always felt like Gen 4 did it best. I am literally the person you describe here -- someone who saw contests in the trailers, got hyped, and was totally heartbroken at what BDSP did to them

[@somedragonbastard]

I loved my contests. I had a Delcatty in Emerald specifically reared for contests (who I accidentally took to the league because I am kinda dumb but she did pretty well) and loved her and the system to bits

[@kennylauderdale_en]

It's a feature.

[@0008loser]

[@galloviking4766]

At least back then if you wanted Manaphy you'd still need to buy two games (DPP + Ranger), but the second game was something completely different and enjoyable.

[@positivea9111]

@Charon the Toaster Yeah but again buying two games.

[@wildspirewarrior211]

Pokemon ranger is actually worth playing unlike bdsp

[@blodstainer]

"The distortion world was annoying" well that's a great reason then to include and improve upon it in a remake, is it not?

[@northweast5857]

Yea he didn’t say it was bad.

[@JinxeBlaq]

@@northweast5857 But he also didn’t talk about the possibility of improving it. He kinda just said, “Games better without it.” And left it at that.

[@muffinfighter3680]

Exactly!

[@BIGJUNK1MILLION]

The current form of Pokémon contests would be fine if it were more like the karaoke minigame in Yakuza, a full fledged rhythm game with entire music videos. Wouldn’t that be fun? Well in modern Pokémon, fun is an occasional privilege.

[@Klonoahedgehog]

I am now imagining 24 hour Cinderella with Pokémon doing the dancing

[@thefreshvince879]

funny bc ICLA did work on Yakuza 0

[@todd2.08]

@@thefreshvince879 what went wrong lmao

[@iceneko9170]

@@todd2.08 a gamefreak director had control over game decisions. and stated that it was going to be "faithful" early.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

The issue is that is still killing the potential of contests. They really should just separate them from mainline and find a studio who gives a damn to make a solo-contest game inspired by the anime's contests.

[@qualityarsenic3922]

I've said this once and I'll say it again; When most people say they liked Gen 4 or Sinnoh, they're talking about Platinum, not Diamond and Pearl (With the exception of HGSS, I'm talking about the non-remakes). The Battle Frontier was part of the reason I loved Platinum and HGSS so much, as well as the CTF games that could be played in the Underground and cool decorating. With those things gone? Well, I have practically no interest in these remakes. They took out my favourite Pokemon co-op experience (that being the Multi Battles in all of the Battle Frontier facilities) and the charm that the underground once had. This should have been a Platinum remake, not a Diamond and Pearl remake. This really is some monkey's paw-like stuff right here... It's so sad, especially for someone like me who wanted to have this game be the proper introduction to Pokemon for my friends, instead of suggesting they play an older Pokemon game on an emulator. The dream of beating the Battle Frontier facilities hand-in-hand with my girlfriend through Multi Battles was ripped away from me. I'm so disappointed... Thank you for this video. I hope it does open the eyes of some people.

[@qualityarsenic3922]

Honestly, they should stop trying to make crappy remakes and just re-release older games with online functionality. It would be so much better in my opinion.

[@Gamedraco]

@@qualityarsenic3922 Platinum really made Diamond and Pearl obsolete overnight. The Heart Gold and Soul Silver remakes a year after Platinum made Diamond and Pearl look even more dated and obsolete.

[@sb6196]

For me personally I'm not a big fan of diamond pearl or platinum I've only played diamond and pearl but I checked what platinum changed and it doesn't change my opinion the games are just okay not bad but not amazing either. Referring to the originals don't buy the remakes because they didn't change enough for me. Considering how the remakes turned out I made the right decision.

[@qualityarsenic3922]

@@sb6196 Indeed you did. Even if we do not see the originals under the same light, I am glad you agree that the remakes did not do enough. They changed the completely wrong things and made them worse than the originals, whilst putting no effort into the balancing. Good on you for not buying the games.

[@sb6196]

@@qualityarsenic3922 I made sure I had a general idea of what the remake changed before I decided if I would buy it or not because I already played the original so I needed to know if it was worth buying again and nope it wasn't. this part is unrelated but what Pokemon game would you say is your favourite mine is between black/white and black/white 2. I also really enjoyed legends Arceus but I'm not sure how I would compare it to black/white black/white 2.

[@berryNtoast32]

I ended up dropping the game 2/3 of the way through. I loved running around the "grand" underground for a while. After watching this, I realized that my main motivation to play is only the possibility to play a run through using my shiny, 6iv turtwig named Sweet Pistachio, along with the rest of the IV bred team I chose to grind out. Therefore, im motivating myself more than the game's production quality

[@ShockInazuma]

I didn't even get to the first gym and I was already bored lmao

[@Tenebris2278]

It saddens me to realize that we are in a video game dark age and have been in it for a while now. In the past I could go to the store IRL, buy a game and begin playing it, and if I ever wanted to return 10-20 years later but for some odd reason sold it or lost it, I can just find another copy and start playing it. Now I'm disheartened for my future brethren who won't have that luxury when the online stores go down and they won't be able to play the games of this era without having to pirate game patches. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the ability for developers to patch buggy features but how is it going to effect the future nostalgia players when the internet and online services shut down.

[@kingofthebis1068]

The FOMO part is so real but I feel like Pokémon has been exploiting it since mystery gift events started but for some reason they cut access to free content

[@shepherdstar14]

The pokémon franchise has officially become like the Sonic franchise back around the early 2010s. The company release a mediocre and unfinished looking game, fans attack the game for all it’s worth and the company chooses a very “safe” method of developing the next game by just removing all of the “good” things they did in the previous games and replacing them with a weird new mechanic no one asked for. And now we-releasing old games that have little customization options here and there.

[@kpychamp13]

Sonic is great example but I think the more accurate comparison is the Megaman franchise because of fan backlash and low sales capcom did 8 bit Megaman games like Megaman 9 and 10 and only did legacy collection till Megaman 11 and after a decade too Sonic still made games with sometimes make good games like generations and mania

[@Literalmente_Alguien]

@@kpychamp13 also games like colors, the racing trilogy, the last Mario and sonic in the Olympic games, lost world (although it is far from what a sonic is, it does not mean that it is a solid game and that it is a good game but not a good sonic) and colors ultimate (I take into account the patches, the PlayStation 5, pc and xbox series x/s versions and in my experience with the game, since those are the versions I had access to) people exaggerate a little enough with the number of bad or mediocre games in the franchise

[@mistake1197]

Oh my God you're right.

[@wolverinesigma2565]

@@kpychamp13 Well Mega Man has been on life support since 2010, and is just now starting to get back on his feet

[@kingosnake7158]

holy shit the accuracy of this comparison is unfounded, this is EXACTLY what pokémon is going through

[@DarkAngels1600]

I remember watching the reveal trailer for this game and how I was screaming out of joy when they were showing the original games and then went from screaming out of happiness to pure dread and fear when I saw how they decided to go with the game. I honestly believed that they would've gone with the platinum version and that they would've for once kept the battle frontier unlike ORAS but when I saw the Let's GO approach I immediately lost all hope and decided to not buy the game. As someone who grew up with Pokemon and still plays it at the age of 25, seeing the reveal trailer almost brought me into tears out of sadness because of how little care they put into what was one of their passionately made game with a lot of care and hard work.

[@sonjaa.martin6269]

[Sorry for bad grammar i wrote this at midnight on my phone in my bed] Right, I didnt grow up with gen 4(i grew up with gen 5 as my first games), but i feel so bad for people who had those games as their childhood. Like if black and white got remade and it was this bad? I would honestly cry.....i love those games so much. LIKE I TOTALLY GET WANTING TO CRY, Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl are just.....so bad. Like so soulless yknow????? Like you can really tell they didn't actually put any care or love into the game(not to sound corny). A lot of the games I love the most I dont love just because they are objectively good, but because I had fun playing it & I thought a lot of the things in the game were charming. I havent played bdsp and I never plan to, but from what I have seen these games definitely do not seem fun to play and do not look charming. These remakes make me concerned for the eventual black and white remakes

[@gi0_18]

He spittin, but he sounds like he’s holding back tears 247

[@Lulleebee]

I feel like people are blaming ILCA way too much, pokemon company still called all the shots and saw how the game was going and even after that it was fine with releasing it to their eager fans. There were tons of better developers that would love to work for a Pokémon remake but it feels like the Pokémon company didn’t care too much and just gave the rights to a company that’s not too great at making games

[@rogue1248]

yea i feel like its TPC to blame for this decisions.

[@3ftninja132]

The Pokemon company is lazy, if they weren't they'd make a good game and make all the money in the world. Instead they make a bad game... And still make all the money in the world.

[@Gloriankithsanus]

@@3ftninja132 If it were that bad, it wouldn't sell. Most of these things don't matter to either kids or people who don't roam the internet very often. I met a good-earning factory worker a while ago who thought that WoW is the most played, best selling non-controversial game it ever was. Also fully supporting its content. That day I got reminded how casual people really can be. I think truth is, we want pokemon games and we don't really care enough for things going wrong. The desire to get a new pokemon game is stronger than to vote no with your money. And then again, I really didn't give a shit about what people say about the game on the internet. I played the game, I loved it, I didn't encounter any bugs and I enjoyed the ride into the past. People may need to chill out a little.

[@abandonFandom]

@Dregorin ehhh, no, I'd say being critical of the quality of games is incredibly important for the games industry as a whole. Otherwise, you have companies trying to push out sub-par products months or even years before they're even ready to ship. Granted, gamers, and the Pokémon fanbase in particular, can definitely be overzealous at times.

[@VyperByteX]

@@abandonFandom I would like to say being critical means something. The simple fact is that GameFreak, cares very little about review scores, criticism, or anything besides the bottom line. You can criticize their games all you want, the only thing they care about is how many copies sell. In other words criticism has no chance of effecting anything about how the games are made, and function. The only thing that would impact it is if the games stopped selling. So long as the game is profitable they will say the model still works, and there is no need to change it. It's a shame, but it's how all AAA game producers operate now. Your criticism means nothing to them, so long as you still give them your money.

[@baddragonite]

To be fair I'm kinda glad they didn't expand on Dynamax, just because I really dislike it as a mechanic in competitive. So gen 8 mechanics without the bother of dynamax is basically what I was hoping for, if not megas returning.

[@nascour5991]

I'd prefer they fix the mechanic if they weren't gonna add a new one

[@zad_rasera]

I want Megas and Z Moves back

[@darkmodeenjoyer3367]

@@nascour5991 to fix it you must complete rework it Mega are fixable in some way, I think they should never give megas to strong pokemon ever again

[@LaNoir.]

I didnt even use mega to this point lol such pointless gimmicks

[@mistake1197]

@@LaNoir. I can't understand what you're trying to say. Your sentence composition hurts my head.

[@Nintendan95]

I am shook for the inevitable Gen 5 remakes because that is my favourite region and the one I think would benefit the most of all regions/games of being brought into a full proper triple-A quality title. I hope they tap into that same sort of inspiration that they had around Gen 5 because I feel that's where GF were at their best. edit: and that's assuming GF do handle the remakes, probably just get thrown over again to another studio...

[@spintowin8971]

Those are my favorite games in the series, but they've got to sell black and black 2 together and same thing with white and white 2 because those were actual sequels

[@horiphin]

The contests and underground section were the biggest kick for me, I never had the chance to play capture the flag and show my base off in the original so I was so looking forwards to being able to do it and it wasn't there.

[@mortisvult2658]

Before people talk about him experiencing a ton of glitches because he didn't have the day 1 patch I must point out that most of if not all of these glitches still happen even with the day 1 patch.

[@Retrogamershaun]

I have to disagree because i didn't encounter any of them aside from occasional pauses before a wild encounter starts

[@ns-tech1304]

@@Retrogamershaun then u didnt play the game

[@matthewbentley1236]

What about if we say he expericend so many glitch because he was trying to glitch the game, and doing sequence breaks, just kidding. That said I've only played in January onwards after 3 patches I guess, and I've experienced no glitches.

[@RiversEagle_]

@@matthewbentley1236 I watched the streams Harmonia did to get the footage. Half the glitches just suddenly happened or were noticed by chatters. It wasn't the result of intentionally breaking the game, they resulted just from normal playing of the game. This game is just so glitchy and buggy that it breaks just from being played.

[@mortisvult2658]

@@Retrogamershaun And that's fair I'm glad you didn't encounter any bugs/glitches but I know I did and many other content creators as well encountered many glitches with the day 1 patch installed. The experience of one person against the experience of many isn't a very solid foundation for an argument though, so I'm sorry to say that I still agree with my original comment here.

[@marywallace3620]

The whole preorder bonuses and the FOMO thing you mentioned is why I dont become a completionist plus sometimes the preorder bonuses here in America sucks esp if you preorder a game expecting it to at least come with a few posters, a sheet of cool looking stickers, a plush or two, and maybe an art book detailing a lot of the thought processses behind designing the game and whatnot but then when the preorder comes it's a sucky bag (I think COD had a huge backlash over the preorder bonus being a crappy tote bag or something?), a poorly done plush, or something even more disappointing, a cheap plastic bracelet lol. Plus the price of the preorders are often way too expensive for most people to get just to get a plush or a bracelet or some single item that had minimum effort put into it. And what makes the preorder bonuses even worse is that the game will still be sold for the same exact price upon release.

[@InhabitantOfOddworld]

Yup, preorders are always overpriced but cheaply produced tat. COD gave out a worse quality bag than promised. I don't bother with preorders, and not much of a completionist either. I prefer to save my money than squander it on massive game corporations

[@TheAbsol7448]

Fallout 76 also had the shitty tote bag issue.

[@Jeff_denHartog]

@@TheAbsol7448 Yep Fallout 76 was hole new level of bullshit tho, Bethesda did those bags with such bad faith, it's crazy..

[@frickinfrick8488]

The removal of many player to player interaction features in the underground really bummed me out in a very personal way. I got these games a while after release so I never really had the opportunity to use them, and I always wished I was able to play capture the flag and do the spiritomb quest and see all the decorative secret bases people made. When a remake was announced I was excited to finally be able to experience those, but nope. People talk about the underground like it’s the one big improvement, and even then it’s a win some and lose some deal.

[@domicraft6341]

Whaaaaaat they cut that?! In a time where the Spirittomb quest would've been the easiest to complete ever?

[@frickinfrick8488]

@@domicraft6341 yeah right? They made the spiritomb quest so much more painful than it would’ve been if they kept the old method. Now you have to track down like 40 NPCs who’s locations are randomised and aren’t always spawned, I’m absolutely not bothering with that

[@domicraft6341]

@@frickinfrick8488 I think the option to do both would be perfect. Back then I had no idea how the hell to connect with the internet. This way you could get Spiritomb on- and offline.

[@blameitondanny]

I miss the time where you can place trap around the underground.

[@nascour5991]

Don't forget they also removed flags and all customization options for your secret base except Pokemon statues

[@amahats6751]

I hadn’t played either BD or SP and I’m heartbroken to see what they did to contests. As a kid I loved the grind to become the best at EVERYTHING a Pokémon trainer could be. I wasn’t gonna just save the world and be the champion I was gonna be the top trainer in every contest category too. I’m pretty sure I grinded for contests way more than I ever did for the gym challenges or for the plot.

[@ninisdesk]

I think the games lighting is too bright and it really distracts sometimes, I think they could have made the colours more saturated too. Fans had so many great ideas for the remakes but I feel like the developers were definitely out of touch when making it. It’s a BIG miss

[@oldoutlet6946]

The contrast between BD+SP and Legends: Arceus in quality is so jarring despite being released only a few months apart. It's like comparing a soggy cardboard box to a mansion.

[@GabiteEditz]

A molded mansion

[@egon3705]

that's because legends was probably in development since they finished crown tundra

[@FudgemintGuardian]

Contests turning into a rhythm mini-game would be fine if 1: it wasn't boring, and 2: this remake was done like previous ones rather than supposedly being "faithful".

[@kingofcrap4414]

I don't think they even cared about being faithful, they just wanted to use that as an excuse to defend themselves from fans asking where all the Platinum content went. A.K.A. they were just lazy. Also, I fear that turning Contests into a rhythm minigame may have been an attempt to ride on the coattails of Tuesday Night Trashpile, but I hope I'm wrong.

[@dawnrigel4255]

The names of your pokemon videos were giving me a chuckle, but this one took the cake! Shipped Early Pearl shouldn't have made me laugh but lol

[@MarkOfAHero]

Love the passion in the video, I haven’t played Pokemon since HG/SS, and so imo I don’t mind Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl as I haven’t really kept up with Pokemon over the years. But I can definitely see why someone like you would be disappointed. And yeah when compared to Platinum it sucks how the remasters don’t live up to the game content wise. I’m praying that hopefully they update the game more but ehhh we’ll see in due time if they give additional content. Great video king

[@blameitondanny]

Yoi need to play gen 5 then. The story of both the games are insane.

[@FengTheSlayer]

They aren’t remasters, they’re remakes. However they might as well be as how it was too faithful to an inferior version

[@Shizzy5321]

@@blameitondanny gen 5 is the best gen

[@Imar13]

I think the worst part is the apricorn balls that this game has, they are completely locked behind buying the game physically at a specific store early, and are completely unobtainable any other way in the game or out of the game except cheating. The apricorn balls truly are some of my favorites and especially for a shiny hunter when you want your pokemon to fit the right ball it just sucks when the company fucks you over in such a pathetic way like giving you only 2 of each and never be able to get more.

[@CalzoneB]

I'm almost positive that the 'fomo' Pokémon for pre-orders have been happening since B/W. You could only get Victini for a limited time, and that was the first instance of it being introduced into the franchise so there was no other way to obtain it in game.

[@EskChan19]

That was always the case with all event pokemon. Though this game was definitely the most aggregious version so far with not only a pokemon but also an outfit and other goods as preorder bonuses being locked otherwise.

[@topazshot88]

FOMO for Pokemon has existed since the very first generation with event stuff like Surfing Pikachu for Yellow.

[@els236]

@@charnalk5572 It has existed since the dawn of Pokemon games, although it did really start to kick off with Gen3 and the introduction of the "Mystery Gift" system - which - because of the lack of internet capabilities, required you to actually go in person to your local GameStop (USA) or [idk] in Japan, while Europe usually got completely shafted, outside of a few GAME stores in the UK, usually around London and such. Since the DS/3DS and internet capabilities, it became a lot easier, but it would most certainly require you to either pre-order the game, or at least have the game within the first month, while the "offer" was valid., such as your mentioned Shiny Beldum in ORAS. It's the main reason I never felt bad using an ActionReplay cheat device to activate said gifts on games I got late, or on brand new saves. Unfortunately, no such device exists for the Switch and to actually "cheat" requires you to install Homebrew and... yeah, it's not something a lot of people are either comfortable or capable of.

[@yep9462]

Yeah that's something they had even when Pokemon games had actual effort put into them. It always sucked because they hid the coolest legendaries behind these events, like Darkrai, Shaymin-Sky, Jirachi, Deoxys (pre oras), or Genesect. At least there's that DNS trick you can use to get them in the older games now