a look at the Schlage Encode WiFi Deadbolt - Can it accept different cylinders?

[@daveaedion]

Very good info. Thanks for finding this out. Some of their earlier electronic locks only had enough room for a 5 pin cylinder.

[@petewoodfine2100]

Hi Jason. Thanks for taking the time to do this video. It has probably crossed peples minds now they have the answer thanks to you doing the finding out. Thanks again. Jason.

[@TJ-ho2cu]

Great video Jason, thanks for covering this. I would think ASSA would work as a high security option.

[@ImGumbyDangit]

Nice Video. I know my Schlage FE595 cannot swap out cylinders due to oddball (proprietary) tailpiece. This one retails In Canada for CAD$ 349 (USD$ 288) whole the FE595 retails for CAD$ 164 (USD$ 135). So the extra CAD$185 (USD$ 152) gets you the WiFi feature without needing the hub, plus the ability to swap from a 5 pin to a 6 pin core. The FE595 is entry set (lever) and not a deadbolt.

[@lmars5933]

Great video just looking at this at the box store ..thanks for the heads up on the cyl change. 😎

[@bradw0535]

Nice thorough review Jason 👍 I agree with some of the other comments, wish Schlage wouldn't have switched away from the brass cylinders, but.. I'm sure the bean-counters know better 🙄 .. atleast the cylinders can be swapped out! 👍👍

[@63flight]

You da man! Once again doing the leg work so we don't have to. Thanks for the info. 👍🤓

[@kecusc]

Question: the rest of my home uses PAMEX brand hardware/locks. Do you know what brand cylinder would work on my new Schlage Encode? The PAMEX key does not fit a Schlage lock.

[@selock]

I’ve never heard of PAMEX, are they from Amazon

[@Paisley26]

overhead camera operation would have been a great improvement.

[@petewoodfine2100]

Hi Jason. Happy Thursday, not related to the video, so how did you get on at the vet with your cat ? Hope it was OK..

[@allsold]

whats the brand and model of the lock cylinder ?

[@amd2800barton]

Would this work with a higher security cylinder, like a Protec2 KIK replacement (specifically the ABL-CY410)?

[@selock]

If it’s the standard Schlage format style cylinder yep

[@cavemansparkey4949]

thank you for the video Jason maybe next time you do a video on the counter can you put the camera on the other side of the table so we can see more of what you are doing and maybe les arm washing please thank you 😎😊😁

[@selock]

yeah that always irritates me but most of the arm watching was just unscrewing or capping cylinders and most know how to do that :)

[@pauldoherty8247]

Can you tell me which medeco or ASSA cylinder would work? Thanks

[@selock]

“Schlage” style or “standard” style.

[@Chirael]

Very cool to know that’s possible, thanks for showing this Jason. And wow, $10/month, no wonder the lock manufacturers are pushing these so hard 🤣

[@selock]

That’s apparently for the connect, this one is free. I would assume as James pointed out it would likely conserve battery for the hub versions but $10 a month is pretty crazy! Customer went with this one and I see him frequently so I guess we will know in a few months whether he liked it or not

[@jmr]

@@selock IMHO The cost of that service should be about $3 per year given the cost of cloud servers. It takes virtually nothing to run that service. There is no reason the service for a hub connected to the cloud would cost significantly more then a lock connected to the cloud. The difference in cost is likely better customer service and marketing dollars.

[@selock]

@@jmr 10 is way overpriced for sure! I can’t fathom why anyone would wanna pay $120 a year

[@shaggyfilms]

The $10 a month depends on the hub you are using. Wink is the only one i know of that requires a monthly subscription. The Schlage connect operates on Z-Wave. There are plenty of Z wave options that are free like SmartThings

[@KypHeM]

exactly what I needed thanks

[@as.3481]

What cylinder did you buy can you send me a link ? Thanks

[@IKanFlyDrones]

Hi. Thank you for the video. So I moved to a home that has a Schlage encoder deadbolt which is very nice. Only thing we are worried about is if there is a key copy floating around somewhere. Do you recommend for us to buy a whole new lock or take the lock to get re-keyed?

[@mikemerv4017]

Just have it rekeyed and reset master and user codes.

[@IKanFlyDrones]

@@mikemerv4017 thank you. Yah we did that and it only cost $14 vs buying a whole new one.

[@as.3481]

What cylinder will it work with ? Can you recommend which one to buy please some options

[@selock]

Watch the video 🤷‍♂️ I’m fairly sure I cover it

[@as.3481]

I watched ten times but I will again

[@as.3481]

You only say let’s do rust one ?

[@selock]

@@as.3481 any standard Schlage style key in knob cylinder will work. GMS, LSDA, Ilco etc Schlage style doesn’t mean keyway, just the dimensions/size

[@TheButchersbLock]

Great video as always mate, I always wonder if they can be hacked easily or bypassed in that sort of way. We need a hacker to watch your video. Stay well mate 👍🇦🇺😊

[@RJ_Cormac]

Thanks for the info! 👍

[@PaulHenning84]

Schlage Sense - Uses Z-Wave or Zigby (two differing technologies) to integrate with older home automation systems or when your in a building flooded with wifi and you're having performance problems where wifi is practically unusable. Schlage Encode - Schalge seems to have designed this for AirBNB or landords of rentals. It works over wifi, and does initial paring over Bluetooth. No hub needed. No Zigby or Z-Wave. Both take standard KIK/KIL cylinders, you need to swap the tailpiece over which offers high security options like Abus or Abloy. No you can't use it on the old Schlage inch and a half holes you need to bore those out to 2 inch standard holes. I believe the spacer if for people who want Primus thats why they're cast that way. Actually I should call allegion. I've installed 10 in the last few weeks.

[@selock]

the connect and sense would certainly be a better choice if someone had an alarm system using g that tech, I’ve installed quite a few of the Yale Z wave ones for local alarm techs

[@bms9144]

The Connect doesn't charge any use fees. Could be the hub side where charges are being applied. Connect has a Zamak rim cylinder that houses a KIK cylinder, similar to the built in one shown in the video. The rim cylinder has grooves at 5 and 11 that match up with small rails in the housing. Using a standard rim cylinder would require adding the grooves on a 1.125" rim cylinder with a mill or a Dremel. 6 pin KIKs seem to work fine if you re-use the tailpiece. It is a bit long, so shortening it is an option. The tailpiece is 5.5mm x 2.0mm. Overall length of the body + tailpiece is about 68.0mm (measured from the front of the bible, not the plug face, which varies as per the video.) If you really want to get picky you can install a 3.0mm spacer made from the body of a cheap ball point pen to take up the gap around the screw. Connect doesn't seem to have the copper spacer on the KIK cylinder, or need it.

[@selock]

@@bms9144 that video is here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJjJn3x3pauamqM

[@bms9144]

The "bump" on the tailpiece seems to be there to hang up in the bolt during install so it doesn't easily fall on the ground. Easy for a novice at installing deadbolts, but it isn't needed for anything else.

[@bms9144]

@@selock Cool, thanks I will check it out!

[@johnteague136]

What’s up Jason!👍😎

[@selock]

What’s up John! :)

[@johnteague136]

@@selock not much .. about to hit the sack .. 4 comes early here in the old north Georgia mountains 😁

[@jmr]

A door lock that does WiFi is going to need more power. WiFi is a power hungry technology. A device that has a hub will likely need far less battery changes but give similar features. A lock that uses BLE(Bluetooth low energy) will likely perform similarly to a lock with a hub when it come to battery life but won't do remote unlock over the internet unless it has a BLE hub. In a power outage most BLE locks will work normally. Put a UPS(Uninterruptible power supply) on your modem and router. The gateway too if you have one to eliminate power outage issues. I like home automation but have not found the perfect connected lock. I will probably build one eventually using commercial access control and DIY parts.

[@mikebrostlove13]

Hi Jason

[@kabuk31]

Switched the cylinder to a Mul-T-Lock cylinder. Had to file the tail pice but it works great.

[@willardlocks]

Thanks, great video as always Jason. I see the thumbs down guy watched it to. lol

[@AuGold808]

I just dealt with this. It's one step away from bullshit. Couldn't even program the auto lock without downloading the schlage home app. Not a big deal but I don't like it.

[@selock]

The homeowner got this one set up fine while I was there, had a bit of trouble with the Alexa integration but after a couple of tries it took. We had the same Alexa connect problems with our TV

[@PaulHenning84]

@@selock just download the Amazon Key app it takes care of it.

[@joezuccardo3245]

The Schlage cylinder looks like cheap die-cast, The Russwin cylinder looks like brass, with the price you pay for this lock you think they could give you a good brass cylinder, I would never use a lock with a die-cast cylinder on my house

[@selock]

yep they changed all the deadbolt cylinders to these about 2ish years ago :(

[@PaulHenning84]

@@selock the reason is longevity of zinc in harsh envrionments also price, you can Houdini a Kwikset down thats been near a pool for a decade and it'll work again. Not so with brass. Look into the rationale behind those dogshit terrible swing arm deadbolts from the 90s. It's because Lowe's wanted a $1 cheaper price per unit and thats how Schlage cut corners. Edit: No one lubricates their locks, thats why we're seeing Zinc. Chlorine absolutely kills the natural lubricity of brass.

[@samxu1467]

But those cylinder has 4 spool pins in them , definitely pick resistense compare to those gms or lsda brass cylinders

[@selock]

@@samxu1467 the LSDA/gms can have better spools added but also the point is high security cylinders can also be used. If someone has one of these on their house you can be assured there are cameras right there too :) spools won’t matter

[@joezuccardo3245]

@@samxu1467 Russwin brass cylinders have spools in too and closer tolerances, I have worked on Russwin locks