A Look Inside The Elac Debut Reference DBR62

In my look inside videos I tear down the speaker and go over the T/S parameters of the drivers, cabinet construction, and the crossover components. The Elac Debut Reference DBR62 is my first pair of Elac speakers and they didn't disappoint and here's why...
***Correction: The Elac Debut Reference DBR62 has an overhung voice coil design and not a underhung voice coil design. ****
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[@generationbehindhifi]

If you would like to support the channel, then please consider purchasing your speakers from the below affiliate links. I use the proceeds from those commissions to purchase more speakers to do look inside videos on. Your support is much appreciated! Thank you! Get your black pair of Elac Debut Reference DBR62 speakers here: amzn.to/3Xsen4f Get your white pair of Elac Debut Reference DBR62 speakers here: amzn.to/4ep36aD Below is the tool I use to test all the speaker drivers with. Dayton Audio DATs V3 tool: amzn.to/3Jn4AEG Worthwhile Upgrades: Brass nuts for the Elac DBR2 can be found below: Brass nuts: amzn.to/3IFLOIS Brass nuts vendor 2: amzn.to/3BYrwq9 Brass lock washers: amzn.to/43iaRcK

[@jamesrobinson9176]

Hello! I generally don't care about bookshelf speakers but I never saw your channel before so I watched. I like what I'm seeing so far. 👍

[@ryanchappell5962]

Awesome! I love that we get to look inside. Thanks so much for your work in both testing as well as editing this video.

[@migueldelaguardia]

Great review.Hope the channel grows quick so you can get more equipment without having to buy.Thanks for your work.

[@user-ez3vj7xv5e]

Vos vidéos sont très passionnantes. Démontage et examen des enceintes acoustiques et des caissons de basse, c'est fantastique, excellent qualité de la vidéo et du son, pour moi c'est la meilleure chaine sur "youtube"........ Continuez, vous êtes le meilleur...... Bonne journée

[@generationbehindhifi]

Wow! Thank you for the nice comment! Comments like this keep me doing it.

[@user-ez3vj7xv5e]

Re-bonjour@@generationbehindhifi , effectivement je suis en France et je suis passionné de hifi et de Home-cinéma........... personne d'autre que vous ne fait cela en Europe, c'est pour cela que ne rate aucune de vos vidéos......... Moi aussi quand j'achète des enceintes acoustiques ou un caisson de grave, je démonte et j'examine la fabrication........ Grace à une de vos vidéos sur le démontage du "subwoofer" Polk Audio XT12, j'en ai acheté 2 car je trouvais que le haut-parleur 31 cm est d'excellente qualité........ je les ai acheté 200 euro unitaire a la place de 349 euros pendant de "black friday" de la France........ je les ai démonté, j'ai renforcé l'intérieur des caisses avec beaucoup de colle à bois et des tasseaux en bois, maintenant ils sont rigides comme une brique....... j'ai ajouté un DSP de la la marque "DSPEAKER", le 8033 SII, et ils sont fantastiques, pas très puissants, mais j'ai "boosté" 6 décibels à 35 hertz, et c'est très très bon, zéro vibration du coffret, pas de talonnement de la membrane, cela fonctionne à la perfection.......... donc je suis très satisfait. Grand merci

[@quikspecv4d]

I have a pair of these and the matching center channel in my home theater system. I picked them up when they first started shipping. I am really happy with them. I was lucky to purchase them before the price increased

[@MikeK6046]

Thanks for your breakdown/ explanation of the DBR62's. I've had mine for about 3 years and "still" enjoy them & have no urge to replace them. The biggest compliment I can give them is they've caused me to "not" really miss the previous $4,500 monitors I had (maybe this is due to my room acoustics or that my hearing is going?!?)

[@BobbyBass-x6i]

Thanks for the review. Always interesting to see the components and build quality of speakers. Please keep the speaker and sub breakdown videos coming and rock on!

[@paulgyro]

Great review content and style! Unique as far as i know on KZbin

[@generationbehindhifi]

Thank you!

[@foblivio]

Very thorough review. Well done!

[@coolerman1206]

Awesome video ! Love to see how these speakers look like on the inside. Very nice channel with very cool content 😊

[@generationbehindhifi]

Thank you!

[@BoRerunn]

Wise choice not only are they Andrew Jones design but they sound as good as Buchardt speakers

[@user-ez3vj7xv5e]

Bonjour de la France, superbe vidéo comm toujours. Merci

[@generationbehindhifi]

Thank you!

[@cobar5342]

Elac is a great brand

[@6643bear]

Great video I wonder what u think about ubr62 , but I must admit that a great breakdown of the Dbr 62 . Regards mark

[@NeilBlanchard]

The venting on the pole piece and under the spider is helping the driver play with greater linearity; as well as cooling. Trapped air acts as a spring, and this affects the motion of the cone i.e. distortion. When you measured the T/S parameters, was the driver broken in? Things change quite a bit during break in - suspension becomes more compliant etc. All air core coils - is quite notable!

[@generationbehindhifi]

Hi Neil. Yes, these speakers are broken in. Before I purchased them they were demos at my local dealer so they have plenty of hours on them. Yeah, I was impressed by the air core inductors they were using -- higher AWG than I typically see at this price point.

[@NeilBlanchard]

@@generationbehindhifi These probably would benefit from adding a rib across the inside - or a strut brace from the thin web of the front baffle between the drivers to the existing brace. Other than that, the cabinet seems solid.

[@generationbehindhifi]

@@NeilBlanchard The cabinet is very nice for this price point and for the most part is very quiet. I did find a small cabinet resonance taking place around 600Hz, but besides that I thought it did quite well. The DBR62 are now my new favorite bookshelf speakers for this price point. I even like them a bit better than my KEF Q350s.

[@jezuschrystus.onlycash]

Your spin-up is interesting. 👍

[@florinbizu5018]

Thanks for this detailed review. În a future one, can you show us also how you make the audio measurements?

[@generationbehindhifi]

No problem. I use a Dayton Audio DATs V3 tool (link in the description) to get this data. Its a great tool that is easy to use and understand.

[@brucelee5465]

Didn’t know diy Dan has audio channel

[@DIYDanCars]

haha! I posted about it on my channel last year. :)

[@shipsahoy1793]

I doubt replacing the ferromagnetic nuts with non magnetic brass ones will make any significant difference in that design. It will just make you feel better. 😆 As you suggested, they did the best they could at this price point. Thanks for the review. I might buy a pair of these myself. They are a good buy, especially on sale. 😉

[@crazyprayingmantis5596]

Danny from GR Research wouldn't agree, he'd add his magical tube connectors and no res and charge you 1k and say the speakers are 5x better 😂

[@hugueslecorre4893]

It is just a myth that magnetic connectors have any effect on the sound. It is just snake oil merchandising. By the way, if he have checked all the capacitors and the upper-right (non inductive) power resistors, they have obligatory ferrous leads or else they cannot carry high currents.

[@bayard1332]

So what you are saying is you have no experience with the issue but want to pretend you're really smart.

[@bayard1332]

@@crazyprayingmantis5596 Gosh you are clever, you dissed a brilliant speaker designer with your utter lack of knowledge and phony made up bullshit numbers. Well played.

[@shipsahoy1793]

@@bayard1332 No, what he is saying is he knows from experience that all those things all added together only make a small difference and it's not necessarily worth all the added cost; and btw, I could tell you without reservation that if you can actually notice a difference by changing the nuts on the binding posts then your head needs to be examined. In fact, a blind test would reveal your psyched out technology bias.

[@cbrunhaver]

It’s not an underhung voice coil design. It’s overhung

[@generationbehindhifi]

Doh! You're absolutely right. I made a correction in the description. Sorry about that.

[@RanTausi]

Never had ELAC speakers, I have the Monitor audio Silver 100 and they are awesome speakers , I can say the build quality of the monitor audio cabinet and the drivers seems better.

[@edivansilva6414]

Ola, belo video, muito informativo, gostei, onde esta o link do video do andrew jones ?

[@generationbehindhifi]

Link is in the description.

[@edivansilva6414]

@@generationbehindhifi thanks

[@wyup]

Is it worth or possible to upgrade the electrolytic capacitors of the woofer circuit with polyester ones?

[@PileOfEmptyTapes]

With values like 47 and 220 µF, good luck finding any! Film caps are not typically practical in size beyond the low µF range.

[@ClassifiedBrief]

Use a audio note Kaisei electrolytic to keep it small... These are incredible and better than most budget film caps I've tried. The only electrolytic cap I'd ever use.

[@Hi-Fi369]

Hi, decent looking speakers with decent xover but being me I would definitely upgrade the xover 🤭🤫. I’ve seen 👀 $10k speakers with cheap ass xover 🤦🏻‍♂️ they should be shame themselves. By the way great vid and new subscriber 👽✌🏼

[@generationbehindhifi]

@@Hi-Fi369 Thanks! IMO for 700 a pair, they have one of the nicer crossovers in this price category! These speakers aren’t perfect, but at 700 a pair they offer tremendous value for money and tick all the right boxes.

[@frankd.b.9233]

You should buy/test this, if you are interested let me know Technical Data PRINCIPLE 2 way bookshelf speaker, bass reflex SENSITIVITY (2.8V/1M) 90 dB IMPEDANCE 4 - 8 Ohms CROSSOVER FREQUENCIES 3.300 Hz POWER HANDLING (RMS/MAX) 80 / 150 watts FREQUENCY RESPONSE 32 - 42.500 Hz RECOMMENDED AMPLIFIER OUTPUT 20 - 150 Watts DIMENSIONS (WXHXD) Cabinet: 195 x 357 x 315 mm Dimensions (wxhxd), incl. terminal and feet: 195 x 357 x 333 mm

[@ClassifiedBrief]

That is NOT a good crossover. Crossover design & parts are #1. How can you say it's any good without even proper measurements? Even if it's designed well, the parts are very cheese... Electrolytic caps on the bass driver, cheapest possible trash resistors, and a very meh cap on the tweeter. It seems at least some are air core inductors , but of the dental floss gauge. Good drivers with poor designed and/OR cheap parts won't preform well. Cheap drivers with a well engineered crossover AND high quality parts WILL far out perform the other. This is a well known fact.

[@generationbehindhifi]

I disagree. For this price point this is a very respectable crossover compared to what I have seen from other manufactures in this price range. If you know of a bookshelf with a better crossover for $700 or less, I'm all ears! The DBR62 is using a high order (steeper slopes) crossover with some pretty decent quality parts on it. People always seem to forget that my "good" is in the context of selling price. The DBR62 does NOT use dental floss gauge air core inductors. If you want to see dental floss gauge air core inductors then look at my video on the Focal Aria 906. In the real world a $700 pair of speakers is not going to include Mundorf caps and copper foil inductors. I think some people need to manage expectations or just build their own speakers if they can do a better job for less.

[@scottlowell493]

Cheap crossover and a really lame tweeter. I bypassed my tweeter cap with a .01uf mylar. It helped, but cannot compensate for such a weak tweeter.

[@generationbehindhifi]

@@scottlowell493 wow! Tough crowd! What don’t you like about the tweeter? I absolutely love my speakers and can’t even build a set on my own that would be better for less. A set of quality mid range drivers like the ones used in the DBR62 would set me back almost 300 on their own! I honestly can't think of a better bookshelf for the money! Can you? If so, I’ll buy it and do a tear down on them.

[@scottlowell493]

@@generationbehindhifi install a better tweeter. Even a $30 vifa/tymphany or Dayton is better. Better extension and linear power. Upgrade the caps to 5% metal poly and the inductor to air core. Build your own crossover without such severe compromises to meet a price point. The NHT c3 are more neutral and even. Polk reserve are better in every way. So are A/D/S ll-710. I can replicate the sound of an Elac dbr62 by buying a set of wharfdale diamonds and putting duct tape over the tweeter. The scan speak discovery is a far better midrange and isn’t that expensive . Same for sb acoustics. There you go.

[@wyup]

@@scottlowell493 Inductors are already air core. This speaker is known to be more refined than Wharfedale Diamonds. How do you fit poly caps of 220uF? Any other tweeter you place needs complete XO redesign, and they don't have the DBR62's waveguide.

[@generationbehindhifi]

@@scottlowell493 Are you sure the NHT c3 are "more neutral and even" because the Kipple measurements I have seen say otherwise.

[@shipsahoy1793]

@@generationbehindhifi either doesn't know what he's talking about he's deaf or third option he's blowing smoke up your arse

[@donjaun540]

Very nice look at these Elacs. I wish there was a way you could compare these with the new Elac debut 3.0 They come in at a cheaper price point, but several KZbinrs say they sound great at less than $500 a pair. 👍😎 I just subscribed so look forward to your videos. 😁

[@christopherparis6841]

Oh and ar speakers quarter price or third and their seriously damn near the same

[@generationbehindhifi]

AR speakers? Acoustic Research?

[@christopherparis6841]

Lmfao what is wrong with you home theater guys? All I'm gonna say is it's hard not to be a complete dick but um lol I've got a pair of 3way 6.5 components that spec out better and are built same if not a bit better especially in the crossover unit........their 100 bucks a set so I'm pretty sure we all could find an enclosure for 600 or less lmao

[@ricksmith7659]

HT and HiFi are not the same hobby dummy