A Lot Of Fruit Drop?🥑Avocado Talk🥑

What a weird year so far, I was really expecting an epic fruit set but a lot of fruit has dropped. We'll continue to monitor as the year goes along🥑Avocado Talk🥑
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[@johnnysworld-backyardorchard]

Welcome back from vacation! Wow, bummer on the irrigation leak. Great video REM, everything is looking great, thanks for sharing!

[@AvocadoTalk]

Thanks Johnny!

[@seedwolfmgo247]

I tried the 1/3 honey to 2/3 water trick that Gary Recommended and this year. Highest number of set fruit on my 9 year avocado. Lucky our weather isn't too bad this year in SGV. No drop has happened since about May, keeping the tree watered lighty and did not fertilize. Left the leave drop under the tree when it was flowering. Love seeing ur beautiful trees 😊

[@AvocadoTalk]

This year the fruit set was epic, I'm having trouble keeping the fruit. The honey and water probably helped yours even more, congrats!

[@ChiledeGarcia]

Seems like my fruit set is increasing on my 3 year old trees. I’m really impressed with the GEM on G6 from Maddock. Over 8 feet tall with a 7 foot spread. Just under 3 dozen from last season. Picking the last one this weekend. Carmen had 2 flushes of flowers and fruit set. Reed is doing excellent with fruits set. The heat is coming. We’ll see what happens. Thanks for your update.

[@AvocadoTalk]

The heat is coming. Stay hydrated!

[@chrisinsley5880]

REM....weighing back in.....I have had less fortunate experience than you in the last 6 or so weeks. Recapping, I have one nice size Mexicola Grande in the ground and 7 other Avocado small trees in either 24 inch boxes or 15 gallon buckets. The Mexicola had hundreds of fruitlets on it after flowering but now I can only see 3 fruits. Maybe there is a couple more but that is what happened last year similarly. All the smaller container tree's produced a small number of fruits but they mostly dropped the fruits. The best variety for me at this point is the Lamb......it hast 22 nice fruits and it's only a 3.5 foot tree but I think it's a year older than the other container trees. I can't be sure but it looks like a more dwarf tree but also an older tree in a 15 gallon container. I lost lots of fruit as well. The good news is that i did not get any fruit last year except 3 pieces on the Mexicola Grande so I'm moving in the right direction although slowly! Cheers......Chris

[@AvocadoTalk]

Other people are having the same experience this year, it's just weird. Looking at all my trees with fruit so far, it's not a bad year and the fruit set is decent and I can't get too greedy. Hang in there, you will get there. Thanks for watching!

[@neurocognitive]

Hey REM - All of my trees flowered, but no fruit. They are just too young at this stage, but looking healthy. At this point my goal is to protect them from the direct sunlight and keep them watered - especially when the temps get high. The SC Gold finally perked up and looks like it will make it. Also, the JB I got from Ellen survived and is starting to thrive. I noticed that the trees with darker leaves seem to handle the sun/heat better than the trees with lighter colored leaves. Thanks for the update.

[@AvocadoTalk]

I find that epicenter trees take a little more time but they typically do give, patience. Since they perked up, you should be good to go

[@neurocognitive]

@@AvocadoTalk I agree

[@MoAces]

My Gwen dropped close to half its fruit. It was loaded this year so theres still plenty hanging on. My Sharwil held on to 5 fruit but its a 4ft tree so not too bad. My neighbors Mexicola was loaded but seemed to drop all its fruit these past few weeks.

[@AvocadoTalk]

It's been a weird year so far, ups and down. Hang in there, your Gwen should hold the fruit.

[@jorgebaez5974]

Want to start with saying love your videos! Just an observation, in the video notice that there is not much protection on the ground around the trees, I just keep my yard looking clean but my avocado three will not hold fruit. Last year in march, change how I maintain my avocado trees, started to keep large amount of mulch around the tree, spraying foliage with; Mg, Mn, Cn, Zc, Cu, B, Ni, Fe. Adding fertilizer large % of phosphate. The foliage is spray every two weeks and the ground receives fertilizer every 3 months. The Carmen Hass and Gem avocado is loaded with fruit. Carmen started to flower on November 2023 and stop flowering two weeks ago. The Gem had so much fruit like a cherry three, large amount of fruit fall off, but looks like the small three of 3.5’ will hold large amount of fruit. Hope this information helps you. Thank you for sharing videos of your trees!

[@AvocadoTalk]

Thanks for the feedback, I used to be religious with a spreadsheet on fertilizing, always had a lot of mulch but lately I've taken the lazy man approach. I have gotten a lot of fruit but I think I might have gone too far and need to bring it back. With everything, plan and execute. One thing I've been fighting and may never resolve is the eucalyptus, I should cut them down if I really want a lot of fruit on the eucalyptus side but it is what it is. This hobby is a lot of fun and I enjoy sharing all of it, the good and bad, it's good to be transparent. Thanks for watching!

[@jimsheldon3738]

Really enjoy your channel thank you! Perhaps the amount of rain and wind during flowering period contributed to poor pollenization , I live here in Vista which is considered the avocado belt of the US and did not see many bees during this period of flowering. Had lots of flowers and small pebble sized fruitlets which 90% dropped. Also the marine layer and wet mornings for over two months was not so favorable we did not get a real spring as such. Plumerias also are just barely starting to develop inflows and leaves in the last two weeks. Interesting!

[@AvocadoTalk]

Yes it was really just a weird year, I also had weeks where we had cool marine layer haze that didn't burn off till later. I was nice to be able to work in the back yard in the AM. There are a lot of variables but I really starting to think that rootstock has more of an effect on fruit set and holding characteristics that previously thought. Example, GEM from Brokaw which is younger and smaller has more fruit than my older GEM from the old La Verne. Just odd. Vista is such a cool area, I actually had a guy get a couple of avocados from me that lived in Vista.

[@paulkubat3400]

Interesting video about the fruit development. My guess is that most of the trees you show are young and they can support only so much of fruit. This past winter season we had around 150% of normal precipitation and excess water soil saturation might be responsible for partially suffocation of the roots which stresses the tree and subsequent fruit drop. I have almost lost Reed on Toro Canyon root stock because of it. I'm glad that the tree is now almost fully recovered but not a single fruit on it. Lamb Hass (1.5 Year )on Dusa on other hand is doing great and has bumper crop of fruit now the size of small eggs. GEM on Leola is a year in the ground and has about 10 fruits and doing well. There still might be some fruit drop until middle of August after which remaining fruit will almost certainly stay on and mature.

[@AvocadoTalk]

A ton of fruit on most of my other trees so it's all good. Of course we all want a lot more but time will tell how some will do next year. I'm glad your Clonal rootstocks are doing good, these will be the best going Forward.

[@heyye007]

Apply gibberellic acid to reduce small fruit shedding or foliar application of fertilizer containing silicon in the form of orthosilicic acid.They both have different working mechanisms, but in general terms they are about managing stress, especially heat stress.

[@AvocadoTalk]

I've looked into this in the past but never tried it. Have you tried it and have you seen a difference?

[@heyye007]

@@AvocadoTalk The cause of these drops is actually more than one. Competition between young fruit and vegetative growth, sensitivity to temperature extremes; and water deficit stress.I used silicon in avocado in a greenhouse environment and I found it very successful and the dropping was almost non-existent, despite the extremely hot and very variable air temperature and humidity of the greenhouse. Gibberellic acid, on the other hand, I used it in fruit dropping in cherries and it does such a good job that it is difficult when you try to tear the fruit stems with your hand.

[@rgviper]

My trees are about 7 years old and they drop fruit like no tomorrow. This year I thought it was going to be a good year because they had a lot of fruit, but now they have dropped almost all the fruit. I'm tired of investing so much on these trees for so many years, that I think it's time just to stop taking care of them.

[@AvocadoTalk]

How much water are you giving then? What varieties? Some of my varieties dropped almost all their fruit to buy others are doing ok.

[@frankyancy1347]

Just like yours, lots of flowers, and lots of drop...

[@AvocadoTalk]

Just a weird year so far. We are going to get a lot of heat, not sure if you guys are down south, stay hydrated!

[@126AP]

Just bought a 15gal GEM from Maddocks in April and I up potted to 24inch box and tree is still holding about 30 fruitlets. Thanks for your update, I always enjoy👍

[@AvocadoTalk]

Hi Andy, Good job getting the Maddock GEM, I think they will be good trees in the future. Thanks for watching!

[@carvalhofarmgoa4050]

Wow nice 😊😊

[@AvocadoTalk]

Thanks!

[@TropicalGardenGuy]

I had massive fruit drop on Big Black, Seems like it set thousands …im down to about 100 hass sized fruit after June fruit drop…. All other varieties held

[@AvocadoTalk]

I guess I counted my chickens too early before they really set. I also think I have eucalyptus allopathy issues on one side of my yard but getting them removed is not really in the cards just for my little avocado hobby/obsession. Love you channel Jeff, keep up the good work!

[@eonrhodius5199]

I feel better when I see the guys with much more experience having the same problem as a newbe.

[@lemontea128]

All the fruit on my 3 yr old Reed dropped, even the one almost the size of a quarter. Probably still too young. Hopefully next year when it turns 4. 🤞

[@AvocadoTalk]

@@lemontea128 hang in there, it's been an interesting year with the late spring and heat. 3 years is still young.

[@lemontea128]

@@AvocadoTalkthank you. I will 😊

[@raulcasas4548]

I think it’s too hot for them. They drop them from stress I’m assuming. I put canopies over my trees anytime it’s over 101 degrees.

[@AvocadoTalk]

@@raulcasas4548 stress will definitely affect how much if any fruit are held. I have a mixed bag, some of my trees are holding the most fruit it has ever generated while others drop all of them. We'll see, we have fruit so that's good. Thanks for watching!

[@100lucch]

For me about 90% of all fruit set ends up dropping. Just part of avocado life.

[@AvocadoTalk]

Yeah definitely part of avocados... I expect some fruit drop but some of my trees dropped all of its fruit.

[@100lucch]

@@AvocadoTalk yes I understand now. My Pinkerton did that for a number of years and it was frustrating. My Bacon and hass were setting small amount but Pinkerton zero.

[@lion5452]

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[@gabeleon2922]

Hey buddy, I'm working away from home but I'll check my trees tomorrow evening and will get back to you. Last I check... 1 week ago, my Brokow gem. Had a lot of fruit still holding. The gem I grafted onto a Fuerte rootstock had a lot but dropped almost all. Had 9 holding on. The Maluma I picked up from you had a lot still holding on. Reed from Brokow had about 15. Not sure how many will make it. Don Gillogly had some but not many. Don't expect any to make it. Kona Sharwil dropped all from a young tree. Putting it's energy into growing because it looks great. My other Kona also from Brokow very small tree that I thought was about dead... came back and is holding on to some fruit. I hope they hold. A third Kona purchased from a guy claiming it was from Brokow... dropped all but 3 or so. I'll give you a better update soon. Keep up the great videos.

[@AvocadoTalk]

I think you are doing better than me, team work on updates so we can both get the most fruit in the future. I didn't get any fruit on my maluma this year but the tree is still healthy. Thanks for watching!

[@gabeleon2922]

Good morning, getting back to you with an update from this morning. My Gem avocado from Brokow is still holding on to lots of fruit as well as the Maluma. I counted about 20 fruit on the Maluma. The Gem to many to count. Easily over 40. One Sharwil also holding on to a few. Other trees Reed, Don Gillogly, 2 other Sharwils, Gem on Fuerte rootstock, multi graft tree on Carmen rootstock ( mexicola, Halumalu, Reed, a unknown green variety, and Sharwil) all fruit dropped . We are starting a 4 day heat wave today. 96, 95, 92, 89. We shall see how everything holds up. Going to water 10 min twice per day on my micro sprinklers

[@AvocadoTalk]

@@gabeleon2922 I'm actually uping my watering to 4 times a day right now till the heat wave is over. Micro spray so it really isn't that much water.

[@jlakindd]

between Carmen and lamb hass which one would you keep in a container? and which of the two in your experience had made lots of fruit in one season? thanks

[@AvocadoTalk]

Congrats you got both, the lamb might be easier to manage in the pot. You are better off putting them both in the ground if you can. A Gwen in a pot world probably do ok and it has excellent fruit and productive. Good luck!

[@jlakindd]

@@AvocadoTalk yeah I have a gem in ground and Gwen in a pot for my summer cados. For fall I have : lamb and reed , not sure which one I would want In ground and pot… since my back yard space is so limited

[@AvocadoTalk]

@@jlakindd all excellent varieties

[@lion5452]

What can I do to reduce fruit drop ? I'm n Cali zone 9

[@AvocadoTalk]

@@lion5452 the key is building a strong root system than reducing stress. Mulch, water during heat waves, shade if possible. Once they are mature it get easier

[@donnieelias9480]

Lets do a Brokaw Order!

[@AvocadoTalk]

Yeah I should have kept all the gem I ordered for myself from brokaw. I seriously want to pull all of the non Brokaw gem out and get Clonal replacements.