A New D&D Scandal Already?

[@gamemasters]

(I'm a part of the group that got an early physical copy but not a watermarked pdf): I reached out to wotc and flat out asked what we could show once the embargo lifted; their reply, word-for-word : "After the embargo releases (right at August 1st, 2024 @ 6:00 AM PST) you’re free to cover the contents inside of the book how you would like (with the only exception being re-uploading full page copies, basically abiding by standard Fair Use)." There was ZERO mention of a permanent embargo of the index, zero mention of a permanent embargo of stat blocks. SO.. many of us showed those exact things. In my case, I got an email a full 3 DAYS later citing that there was a permanent embargo of those two sections, when previously they cited that I was "free to cover the contents inside the book how you would like". Be VERY careful taking them at their "share all you want" because they obviously have no issues walking back after the fact and altering the restrictions. A viewer of mine said it best, "It's difficult when the powers that be keeping changing the rules, or won't tell you what the rules are, until you break them."

[@TheMuseForge]

This is why it's important to get EVERYTHING in writing.

[@badmojo0777]

WOTC seems cool, but their Evil Step Dad, HASBRO is a real Turd

[@BobMcDowell]

@@TheMuseForge note all of this communication appears to have been in writing. It won't save you from a bad actor who seeks to use bureaucracy against you. KZbin won't read your emails when you protest the strike, for example. It's all automated.

[@gamemasters]

@@TheMuseForge sure it is.. and we thought we did.. the issue is.. they ADD to it after the fact. Who knows what new restrictions will be added tomorrow. or next week. or the week after two tuesdays from this past sunday...

[@notadrummer03]

​@@gamemastersI have altered the deal. Pray I do not alter it further.

[@williamatkins3465]

So their afraid someone is going to screen shot KZbin and stitch a PDF together but someone who got a physical copy at gen-con can scan it into a PDF at much higher quality .

[@knghtbrd]

The first PDF from D&D Beyond will get the DRM stripped and it will be uploaded to all the book sites. It WILL happen. It was going to happen before, it will definitely happen now. (I won't be the one to do it because I refuse to give them my money.)

[@ericcorso]

Will? It’s been available for 4 days 😂

[@itsallfunandgames723]

That's what makes it doubly inexcusable. Not only do they send the guy a review copy to review in a KZbin video, and then copyright strike him for doing so, but they did it over concerns which are literally nonsensical. No one who wants a free copy of these books is going to fail to get one because you can't screengrab 300 pages off a KZbin video. An HD scan will be up online, for free, within 24 hours of wide release.

[@TehSpessPiret]

​@@ericcorso the thing about piracy is that it's not about whether the content is available to pirate. It's about accessibility. Sure you can swipe the new rules off of a pdf, but first you have to find that pdf on one of many super shady sites with who knows what viruses. Most folk will be too scared and just avoid the risk by buying the pdf legally. On the other hand, having a KZbinr read through every word of every page risk free creates a bigger problem for WoTC who clearly want you to buy the book

[@guilhermemelo3760]

That pdf from yt is already online 😂

[@Nolinquisitor]

WotC is still going strong with their "One Scandal a Month". It's kind of amazing.

[@Helton_Moreira1]

I guess that at this points we are only going to be surprised when it stops happening once a month.

[@Kevrik]

@@Nolinquisitor it's amazing that people will just go oh look people must be right when saying WotC is in the wrong. Here is a timeline of what happened A video was released with high rez captures of the book itself as complete pages WotC tells them to take it down and blur the pages this order goes out to a number of content creators Many content creators took down their videos to edit and comply, Jorphdan delisted the video but kept it up while editing WotC starts the strike process because delisting isn't taking something down. Jorphdan reuploads the video with the content blurred Strike gets processed, Jorphdan is upset makes claim of unfair and some members of community grab their WotC pitchforks. WotC sees the correction was made and pulls the copyright strike because the issue was finally resolved like they asked. Not a scandal, not greedy Hasbro/WotC trying to punish someone for not doing anything wrong. One email from Jorphdan to WotC saying hey guys it is fixed please check and remove the strike and it would have been fine without all this false rage.

[@Nolinquisitor]

@@Kevrik Scandal, blunder, failure, your pick. WotC just collect them as if people had no memory.

[@Kevrik]

@@Nolinquisitor yes content creator fails to do what they asked when it is demonstrably proven it was not hard to do it the way they asked, then WotC gets blamed for taking a legitimate course of action.... WotC has had major fuck ups and are not on our side but the more you promote BS arguments against them the harder it is to catch them on real shit they pull.

[@whitepanth3r]

@@Kevrik how much did WotC pay you to make this comment. Full disclosure needed lol

[@thefitgm335]

Wizards cleared up the copyright strike 3 hours ago, and the strike was removed from jorphdans account.

[@RollForCombat]

@@thefitgm335 that is great. But the video is still down and other KZbinrs took down their videos so the damage was done.

[@thefitgm335]

@@RollForCombat Not patting them on the back, just giving an update to the situation.

[@badmojo0777]

thisis jsut another GREAT exmpl of the GOOD WILL fomr the good people at WOTC while the piec eos fshit at HASBOR continue to rule with an IRON fist asnd mericles lawyer team obxsess wit the WRONG SHIT.

[@andrewthomas7202]

@@thefitgm335 so? How stupid do they have to be to not see the bad PR they create before they create it? Are they doing this on purpose just for the press? I have to wonder. Bad PR keeps the algorithms rolling

[@PalleRasmussen]

​@@RollForCombatalso, I am fairly certain that even if the strike is officially down, KZbin has not forgotten and will be harder in the future

[@craigjones7343]

My kids want this book. Stat blocks can not be copyrighted. They are a game mechanic.

[@karlranseier6885]

Hey Stephen, you shouldn’t have shown the PHBs. You gonna get a visit of the Pinkertons.

[@andrewthomas7202]

Knock knock

[@gbprime2353]

I would TOTALLY have put comically large black rectangles on part of the book any time it was on camera. Editing, black sticky notes cut up just so, whatever. Just to make a point/pun.

[@rmcdudmk212]

Wizards once again showing a level of distain for the KZbin commentary channels promoting their books. Wow

[@SmokeADig]

And yet they still promote them. Kinda asking for it tbh

[@jasperjaguar5453]

Anyone who ever gives WotC another red penny deserves everything they get

[@dyne313]

I wouldn't accept a free D&D Player's Handbook. That's how little I respect Hasbro/Wizards.

[@rmcdudmk212]

Same. It would go strait in the fireplace or a wood chipper.

[@dyne313]

@@rmcdudmk212 I might sell it if I could, as I could really use the cash, but I like your idea.

[@steelmongoose4956]

Shadowdark, EZD6, Lion & Dragon, Index Card RPG, DC20, and the previous D&D editions all say they won’t share a shelf with the new book, so I wouldn’t have a place to put it.

[@RexfelisLXIX]

Same.

[@zirconiumdiamond1416]

The person I most blame is whomever decided to send a DMCA takedown notice instead of a copyright claim. The channel was actively working with WOTC's community content team!! DMCA takedowns are the harshest possible option short of a lawsuit and really should be reserved for the most egregious cases. Even if WOTC thought that the creator had ignored the rules given to him, claiming the video to take it down and then having a discussion would have been the right way to go. Striking channels is a permanent relationship ender. Don't expect to ever work with a creator ever again whom you have ever struck. Even in this case where they retracted the strike within 24 hours, there is probably only a 50/50 chance he'll ever do pre-release content ever again for WOTC.

[@TheLibGamer]

My understanding is that Jordan was specifically asked to make a walk-through. It is true that many other KZbinrs are stating that they can't show the specific text/images from the book... but Jordan stated he was asked to show a flip through.

[@hr329085]

@TheLibGamer His video said he refused to sign an agreement though.

[@bradleyhurley6755]

@@hr329085 The only people who had to sign an agreement were the ones who got the pdf copy. Mike Shea also from my understanding did not sign the NDA, but received a physical copy of the book without the need to sign the NDA.

[@anthonyrenli8740]

Chris from Treantmonk's Temple in one of his early videos (possibly even before the embargo was lifted) that there were sections that couldn't be shown - specifically the index and the monster stat-blocks. Some of this, at least, shouldn't have been a surprise.

[@megablasters5]

There were also some creators that got sent a pdf before embargo details, which could lead to some confusion. It seems a bit disorganized on WotC's end

[@timjensen4320]

Yeah. It sounds like there was a set of instructions given to those with a pdf limiting what they could show. Even less restrictions were sent to those that got physical copies but didn't sign NDAs. But it also sounds like neither match what WotC is now asking for.

[@bradleyhurley6755]

@@timjensen4320 Yeah, people who signed the NDA got instructions on what they could and could not show. However, I don't think they were told they couldn't show an entire page, and it sounds like they were told they could. Those who didn't get the PDF and didn't sign the NDA weren't told anything. I don't think anyone dropped the ball, I honestly think this PDF floating around caused WotC to act.

[@I..cast..fireball]

You know, i'm not sure I needed a reminder of why to never buy give wotc a cent again, but Im sure appreciative of them reminding me again.

[@DM_Bluddworth]

GenCon was a public release, as soon as the books were for sale. The best response now is to tell WOTC that their product will not get previewed or reviewed at all.

[@direden]

This was resolved. Jorphdan's copyright strike was removed this morning.

[@itsallfunandgames723]

Now that WotC's been forced to backtrack in disgrace they should put out a letter saying both Jorphdan and WotC are the winners.

[@HawkThePhoenix]

If you check out nerd immersion's coverage, he mentions upfront what pages were off limits. I didn't see the video that got struck, but I did notice dndshorts use a page with stat blocks that I believe was one of the banned pages according to ted from nerd immersion. It might just be an issue of some youtubers not noticing that restriction

[@bradleyhurley6755]

Idk if DND shorts got a pdf copy, but Only the people with a PDF copy were told the index and stat blocks were off limits. That was not communicated to those who refused to the sign the NDA, but got a physical copy of the book later. There is a possibility someone dropped the ball and never notified those who only got the book.

[@Quelkaima]

Re: 2024 PHB giveaway, if it were me, I'd keep my signed copy. Stephen, even if you don't find it has sentimental value *now*, I'd still recommend you keep it as a memento of your time at Gen Con this year. Now to WotC and the PR firm, they should rescind the copystrikes, release a statement apologizing to the influencers (much as I am loathe to use that term), then do a simple investigation. Reach out to the influencers affected and ask them to forward what they received from the PR firm (& WotC, if follow-ups were directed their way) regarding what could & could not be shown. Talk to the PR firm and ask for the same thing. Two weeks later, release a summary report: Here's what happened, here's where we messed up, here's where other people messed up, and here are the next steps both for us and for our PR partners. It's such an easy way to counter yet another "own goal" they made that I, after sleeping like garbage and can't brain very well, can come up with on the spot.

[@dragon2067]

I know from other videos I watched prior to the embargo. Content creators that received an advanced copy had a specific list of pages they were not allowed to show. I think this was just a timing mistake on Wizards.

[@TheScarletInfector]

I don't understand how anyone who is even slightly aware of the past like over a decade of bad behaviors supports WotC still. There are so many alternatives on the market that are way better.

[@Dieter-Doeddel]

after all we talk about a bunch of spineless screenmonkeys who would sell their grandmothers for a free book, a die and some printed paper.^^

[@SirMola742]

Honestyl sounds like the pr firm just assumed everyone in "media" knows standard procedure. Problem is, you tubers / influencers 1. arn't trained in this and don't know media standard procedure, and 2. come from a frewheeling internet sharing culture and are thus likely to assume sharing is ok unless otherwise specified. The PR firm should 100% know how influencers think , and how to talk to them so that they understand. (it's not like influencers are some tiny niche, and it's not like they are acting in bad faith.) they are a PR firm. Getting the message accross is the ENTIRE POINT. Something similar recently happened in the lego comunity. A (entierly well meaning influencer misunderstood and shared something confidential and lego A. didn't punish him that much (they actulay just released a set based on his work) and B. made sure they were MUCH clearer in the future.

[@torinmccabe]

Thank you for being honest and saying that it's probably not legal to do a flip-through of every single page similar to how you can't do that for showing an entire movie in 10 second clips. Video game playthroughs are the exception to the rule, not the default.

[@StarkModo]

This community is better for having you in it!

[@BobMcDowell]

I don't understand the "not released" position. It was sold to the public, as the public was invited to GenCon.

[@jasonroberts4116]

Can you play a commercial song on KZbin… answer is not without permission or you may get a strike Same goes here. The book is under copyright

[@quinn0517]

​@lightfighter4evr, but some of them do. Even if they didn't it has still been released.

[@BobMcDowell]

@@jasonroberts4116 all material ever reviewed by anyone is under copyright. You're not adding any information.

[@jasonroberts4116]

@@BobMcDowell www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-fairuse.html#:~:text=Under%20the%20fair%20use%20doctrine,news%20reporting%2C%20and%20scholarly%20reports. The KZbinr is using the material for profit and copyright laws are more restrictive for profit versus. Basically under fair use you can use small snippets of material to review and critique movies books ect ect. There are no limit of words to use and would be judged case by case if a company would push the issue So KZbin, doesn’t want to bothered or drug into copyright lawsuits so they just banner hammer immediately regardless of validity of the complaint. Now is it good PR companies to claim copyright infringement probably not. Would this case stand up in court probably not. (although it’s seems solved now) How do companies win most of the time….the little guy can’t afford the lawyers to fight on their behalf

[@bradleyhurley6755]

@@jasonroberts4116 From my understanding, they (at least those with the pdf copy) were told specifically they could show the book.

[@misterwire1331]

You should keep your signed copy

[@Xaryc]

Thank you for giving everyone the chance at the new PHBs! Good luck everyone. I watched Jordan's past livestream before he had to blur it and the thought of someone screenshotting it didn't even cross my mind. I thought it was a good way to share a look at the book :/

[@CatMunroe71]

I know Ted was told not to show the index. I don't know if his video was taken down.

[@bradleyhurley6755]

I think Ted took all of his videos down himself.

[@gordenz24]

It's good to see an old school helping and giving back to the community. I have been playing since the late 80s

[@sumdude4281]

You'd have to pay me to take one of those PHB

[@treythesmall6723]

I want more of these videos along with the weekly stream. I know you may not have the time for it, but I love your takes on things.

[@f.a.santiago1053]

I like these one-on-one shorter videos more than the other ones. I'd like so see more of these, if possible.

[@robertdennis8933]

Stephen, another great vid. Having had a friend who is an insider at WotC for years I'm very well aware of their dysfunction internally which has gone on for years. This ridiculous strike against Jorphdan is another example. I guess their new marketing strategy is "no news is bad news, so let's cause as much controversy as possible."

[@megablasters5]

From what I've seen from similar content creators is that wotc was slow to reply to questions, that probably contributed to the issue

[@lyracian]

5.24 does a better version of 5e. I that is 8pm here in the UK for your live stream. Will see if I can tune in this week.

[@tiffanylamb1187]

I just love getting your updates, Stephen. Thank you so much.

[@billtaylor2801]

Ted at Nerd Immersion went over which pages he was allowed to show and which he wasn’t with the advanced digital copy he got. I imagine that doesn’t necessarily apply to anyone who got it at gencon but ultimately it seems like wotc cleared things up pretty quick, Jorphdan praised their quick response and has permission to show the video but says he’s made the decision to keep it private for now. A misstep for sure but probably not that big of a deal in the big picture

[@Morames]

I love your perspective and experience. Thank you for looping us in.

[@andrewthomas7202]

I’d love to receive a free copy so I can go Kid Rock on it with every gun I have. Does that disqualify me?

[@jahpocalypse]

Nobody should go Kid Rock on anything

[@andrewthomas7202]

@@jahpocalypse lol

[@samuelteare8160]

I always appreciate your breakdown of what happened and the possible reasons for why it happened. It's nice to have an insiders view into the different systems.

[@Kevlar-78]

That’s odd. It seems like the law firm didn’t get the memo eh ?

[@jamesyoung7400]

They probably did.

[@josephpilkus1127]

Greetings, Stephen! Great stuff...I saw the pic of you and others playing a TTRPG.

[@mementh]

once its for *SALE* any NDA or Copyright strike for showing/reviewing is *INVALID*

[@frontendchaos]

Heard about this on Sly Flourish's channel, way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

[@TheOGGMsAdventures]

thankfully it is all fixed. It's like there should be a person whose job it was to facilitate communication between all those involved. Oh yeah, WOTC fired that person

[@mdedourek]

While I'm not interested in using their VTT, given the history of failed digital products from Wizards of the Coast, I'm somewhat curious to hear some behind the scenes details.

[@lucasxavier2176]

Liked and subscribed! Thank you for giving back to the community! I would love to get a physical book! never got the chance to buy one due to the currency of my country compared to the US dollar making these books completely unaffordable lol I can't wait see how the the new spells, the old revised spells and how they come into play on a real session!

[@heliobarbosa3525]

It's on WotC (surprise, surprise...) communication. PR company really should tell them just to avoid issues. And WotC could be gentler with the takedown or at least remove the strike (after the video went down), if they didn't already. Even if the guy is wrong by doing a flip through, the company should have taken due diligence and make the terms clearer. Also: I totally get not shipping all the physical books right now BUT they could have delivered the digital ones, like some sort of "fomo BS preorder bonus" on DnD beyond when the embargo was lifted. People hate WotC, you can bet money a high quality scan will be available really soon - out of spite, if anything - especially if people can get multiple copies (unbinding one to scan + getting a pristine one for use). There are probably 2999 books now, one likely "took a hit the team". That kind of weird release is bad for people who bought the PDF legally and will end up reading it after people who pirate it. That said - if you ever get your hands into a watermarked pdf (to prevent leaks), well, don't show anyone said PDF. The watermark is there for a reason. In this specific, you don't own distribution rights because the NDA was lifted. What he did was essentially leaking the pdf with lower quality after some extra steps.

[@rickway2039]

My understanding is that WotC requested Jorphdan to take the video down and edit out the specified pages. He delisted the video while he was editing it. WotC of course has it's own internal documentation trail, in which, someone got the link, saw the video, and was like "WTF, he didn't take the video down!!" so they submitted the CR complaint to KZbin. So add bureaucracy to the list of mistakes here. Just an unfortunate series of mistakes up and down the line.

[@TarisSinclair]

Why would anyone keep giving money to Hasbro/WotC when there's so many great alternatives that are either much cheaper or even free, is beyond me. Especially with the constant disrespect they're showing to the TTRPG community.

[@WorldOfAcala]

We love D&D and we support the game's design team who love the game as well.

[@TarisSinclair]

@@WorldOfAcala That's called Stockholm Syndrome, just FYI. ;)

[@WorldOfAcala]

@@TarisSinclair No, I didn't say I like WotC or Hasbro. It's more like bonding with a fellow abductee.

[@TarisSinclair]

@@WorldOfAcala I suppose that's actually a fair point. The problem of their evil corporate overlords remains, however.

[@JeffWittyArt]

Ugh. I understand people’s love of the game. As it stands currently, the many in company management or higher ups are NOT focused on their customers satisfaction. Just their $$$. I really think people just need to stop buying the new products. Still with the WotC products one already owns, play them, and explore other rpg alternatives. Or hope for give aways. 😂

[@awaytoanywhere699]

off topic but, Stephen you gotta make a view of your bookshelf one day when you've got the time. It's awesome!

[@chaosdoughnut5277]

This is neither here nor there, but you're looking healthy dude. Does this mean I have to start playing pickleball? ...No, it means I should go to GenCon next year. That MUST be it.

[@Armanorithorn]

Sometimes people do crazy things, video screen capping the players handbook is one of them.

[@BillPaine]

I think you’re right, Stephen, that there is a web of messy communication all around. Also - Maybe WotC and Hasbro are taking a page from the world of political strategery - no publicity is bad publicity - and the best bad publicity is free

[@prometheusbirdsong4356]

I am a poor DM and I would like a copy before I get steamrolled by the first player in town that gets one and insists that their warlock/monk/bard can do something because "it's the rules now". Either that, or we argue about it for nine hours.

[@AvenueStudios]

Def sounds like a big company not getting all its departments on the same page, especially since Jorphdan's situation is been resolved (tho damage def done). It's almost laughable how Wotc keeps stepping on its own toes

[@Logan-ef8hq]

Oh man, I'd love one of those PHBs 😂

[@dsupetran]

Thank you so much again for all the great product you are creating as well as raising awareness on the bad practices of companies who shall not be named. ;p ;p ;p looking forward to the raffle draw. :)

[@RogueScholarMDC]

I'm actually surprised about how little an understanding of youtubers and influencers have about how review samples and conditional embargos work when dealing with larger companies. I too have experience from a "previous life" and have dealt with Hasbro, Paramount, Activision, etc. I guess it's just a matter of them having an audience but not really having much Press/PR experiences.

[@lucasterable]

If I wanted to play a 5E variant, I would play A5E.

[@Briansgate]

I didn;t have my glasses on, and when you showed Jeremy Crawford's autograph, where he wrote 2024, without my glasses on I thought it said daddy. I was like wtf.

[@billbaker3357]

It sounded like they made it clear in the NDA, as other youtubers made mention of what they could and couldn't share. Yes, it was a mistake and they couldn't just have called (as, if they sent a copy, I'm sure they could've picked it up). And I do think a copyright strike is harsh. However, I can understand there frustration as they did clearly stat it. But anyway, great insight.

[@MagneticDavid]

Just another reason why I migrated my 5e game to DC20. We're beginning my take on Curse of Strahd soon. . . .

[@thorthorson9926]

The OGL scandal was a deal breaker for me!!! WotC permanently lost me as a customer. I'm also not a MtG player, as well.

[@Slash0mega]

2:40 to skip strait to what this video is about.

[@knghtbrd]

"Already?" LOL. The integration of They Sue Everyone is finally complete. Don't care about this 6E, which is definitely a new edition, and won't be buying one. I'll play Shadowdark or PF or OSE or 5E … anything that isn't this new "all-in" digital future. WotC doesn't have to worry about me potentially stitching together screencaps of 1080p videos and stitching them together because I just don't want it.

[@TrueKoalaKnight]

Sounds like WotC needs to get their crap together and hire more competent lawyers.

[@Cyrannosaurus]

Very interesting how cagey Wizards is being with the book considering people bought them at GenCon. Like obviously they can do what they want, but still a bit wierd to seek some to the “general public” but not be ok with screenshots of the book online.

[@GarGhuul]

The basic problem is they don’t know how to monetize by say having a product that interests their consumers and has value. Nstead they are turning it into a video game, since that is what they apparently only know how to monetize?

[@LordNerfherder]

Noone would be so dumb that they show photos or video of entire pages. Ofcourse they'd go after you. This is expected. This isnt scandalous.

[@Rastayeti666]

i still dont get it when creators are surprised and surprised again when WotC doing the usual WotC things. You guys are a marketing tool for WotC, not more, not less

[@hr329085]

Frankly, I don't know why the creators thought slow flip throughs of a copyrighted book were ok. That was an incredibly dumb move on their part, and I can't imagine any other publishing company would have done different.

[@Rastayeti666]

@@hr329085 oh come one, in the first week after release you can download the pdf in 100% quality for free. not a single censored video will help against this. And you want another company that understands the internet? Paizo for example, creators can make what they want a few weeks before release and you can even read ALL published rules and monster for free in their official archives of nethys right after release. Maybe the difference between Paizo and WotC is they release books that are totally worth their money and not just a cheap cash grab and players will because of this buy their products anyway

[@jonfreemanii]

Thank you for all the content you provide!!!

[@philippemarcil2004]

This story just support my position that I shouldn't be buying any Hasbro/WotC products until they change their corporate culture of supporting AI usage outside of D&D and Magic, sending lawyers and union busters at members of our community, and treating their staff better. I hope the community stay together at not supporting the D&D 2024 edition.

[@williamdelmar2536]

It does seem that there is confusion between the different arms of the company. So, I would have to agree that a written agreement is safer than verbal. Also, maybe get any vague areas or questions answered and highlighted before committing to any videos. Would it make any difference if thses agreements were attached to the video as well, just in case?

[@kaseyboles30]

If they sent those books out for review and the reviewers stayed within the guidelines actually given, then wotc is out of line and likely hasn't a leg to stand on. And if they sent them out without pre-negotiating the rules then it's doubly on them and not the reviewers.

[@DUNGEONCRAFT1]

Oo! Oo! SCANDAL?!

[@EunoiaRPG]

They were *this* close to having a drama free GenCon period lol Also im sure youll announce during the stream but is the giveaway for US only? (I'm in Aus and shipping is a bit of a nightmare sometimes)

[@arcanerecovery2567]

smoke & mirrors... they don't care about pdfs, there are pdfs for 2014 books and there will be pdfs for 2024 books... this was to get people talking about something other than a lot of the youtubers and youtube viewers don't like a lot of the changes.

[@blackbarnz]

I haven't heard anything good about the new revision of D&D but I haven't seen the material for myself yet.

[@Exaltable]

You can't do a page by page zoom in flipthrough of a book that's supposed to be a product for sale in a couple weeks. Jorphdan knew this and chose to do it anyway. Very bad poorly thought out decision when the clear intent of the content he was allowed to make was to talk about the book's contents, not show them directly. Anyone with common sense in this position should have been able to know that what he was effectively trying to do was give people the ability to take the product for free. WoTC are generally the bad guys, however after removing the strike they are not in the wrong at all this time.

[@gbprime2353]

Every time Hasbro/WotC hits the news cycle, I like Pathfinder even more. -.-

[@hr329085]

Pathfinder would do the same thing if people flipped through almost the entire book after admitting they didn't sign any contract. That's just blatant posting of copyrighted material.

[@zirconiumdiamond1416]

​@@hr329085Paizo might have copyright claimed the video to take it down. But striking a channel that your PR team is working with is absolutely wild. WTH were they thinking?! Why did they think that merely taking down the video wasn't enough, and they felt they had to go further and screw with the entire channel?

[@Ryotbh]

I genuinely get the feeling that WotC don't want to keep any of their current D&D audience and are instead pursuing a mythical 'new audience'.

[@CoffeeSipper555]

Considering what they did to Critical Role I have an idea what that audience might be and for me it's ok, I can play another system in the blink of an eye, I refuse to drop immersion for few idiots pushing political agendas.

[@devcrom3]

Who's doing who to what now?

[@TheMuseForge]

On the conspiratorial side of things: This round of copyright strikes is a great way to... Aww heck. Who are we kidding here? It's a great way for WotC to shoot themselves in the foot and chase off more supporters, fans and third party developers who offer critiques and criticisms as the company shifts it's focus to producing addictive video games with microtransactions.

[@jackeldridge4225]

Gee did they call the Pinkertons in again too

[@ScottBaker_]

Sly Flourish talks about this in the latest video. Seems like different instructions for PDF and physical book. And maybe no instructions at all.

[@cricketerfrench7501]

Hasbro are a small billion dollar turnover company how are they supposed to pay for a proper PR company ffs.

[@JeffWittyArt]

WotC cant help falling on their faces routinely.

[@Entifidich]

Ohh wow, so pre-order has no meaning anymore since they get sold before the pre-order gets sent out or even before the digital version on DDB

[@thearcanegearsmith4885]

Thanks for the info!

[@CitanulsPumpkin]

Hasbro and WotC corporate can never be trusted. There's no reason to support the 2024 reprints when there are at least three different third-party versions of 5e coming out within the next year.

[@nobinary2296]

It's WORSE they are going to super micro transaction & start to push more virtual editions of D&D. We read the files. Its going to get the WoW treatment & they legit didn't even hide that they basically wanna hire people to design D&D Beyond to milk us dry & never really OWN any handbooks/sheets/characters/races we get. Just like in WoW it's going to be a free to play, but they want to make the basic version so unfun and unplayable that you have no choice but to use their subscriber tier systems & microtransactions for every facat of gameplay. Plus they wanna add other IP to D&D similar to Fortnite & DBD. So in long story short?? Let's all agree to vote with our dollars like we did with the OGL. I can't believe they are trying to do this again but in a much sneakier and underhanded way.

[@Keseleth]

Could you give out Pathfinder Player Core 2 instead ;P?

[@heliobarbosa3525]

Not sure if this is part of the giveaway

[@Whrait72]

In the two weeks no one will remember the scandal already

[@407Jack]

I am getting back into as DM

[@PurpleCrab89]

Have we come to the point that Wotc does this on propose to get extra advertising?

[@NisGaarde]

Hey, let's just play a better RPG? Made by people who aren't complete trash?

[@I..cast..fireball]

you think that could work? sounds crazy....

[@theflash6ordon870]

"WotC is being terrible again. Let me promote them by giving out books"

[@Ziggy7800Pro]

Thanks for a chance to win.

[@JasonWhite-hs2sn]

I would live a 2024 PHB. Please enter me into the giveaway. I run one shots for grade school and high school students who want to learn the game of dungeons and dragons

[@melorbode]

OMG I never get ANYTHING -and been subed for a long long time GI-