A New Hint of Life on Venus

[@dirremoire]

"When we first encounter alien life, we won't recognize it"

[@MichaelWinter-ss6lx]

Already happened. And NASA fired the scientist who had built the detector.

[@defeatSpace]

-Sun Tzu

[@cyberprompt]

oh so that explains democrats. well.. ok then.

[@PaxAlotin-j6r]

Quote -------------_"When we first encounter alien life, we won't recognize it"_ ---- That's me - every morning I look in the bathroom mirror ----

[@joesands8860]

​@@cyberpromptAre you saying the "Great Filter" is the Democratic Party? Many would agree.

[@Lobien]

It’s 5am and I’m feeding my newborn and introducing her to JMG. Doesn’t get much better than this. Thank you!

[@Obvioustroller]

Your babys first word will be "liiiiive"

[@chazzzztastic]

Pathetic.. no one cares

[@mike7652]

Your child will grow up to become the greatest astrophysicist ever, unifying General Relativity and Quantum Theory into a single, majestic Unified Theory. Probably.

[@emptiester]

GG

[@DerDieDasScheisse]

Congratulations :) Hope your Baby is Healthy and Well, greetings from germany

[@Cammymoop]

It's wild that this isn't clickbait

[@yun.mp4728]

JMG is never clickbait which is what makes his channel awesome! All plausible explanations (sometimes quite theoretical) but all fitting to the science and answers we have today.

[@weeman2097]

You must be new here...

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

Well yeah it's "Possible new hint", not", not "New evidence proves"

[@porterde08]

What? lol 😂 you must live under a rock.

[@NerdGohan]

@@porterde08 let me guess you believe in god..

[@johnmcdonald-6196]

First mars, now Venus. I hope to see life discovered in my lifetime. If both these planets have life, our solar system could be teeming with it.

[@Libertaro-i2u]

Given that Venus and Mars were habitable during the time the biology got going on Earth, it's probable that biology got started on Venus and Mars too.

[@asafoster7954]

​@@Libertaro-i2ualso probable that earth life could transfer there or vice versa... We might be Venetians lol

[@AndrewBlucher]

As a student, I discovered life in my fridge :-)

[@H0mework]

Some think that the atmosphere from the other planets came into ours by evaporation and life came that way.

[@DenethordeSade.90]

​@@Libertaro-i2uprobable? Or possible?

[@J2thaPTV]

Directly from JMG'S wiki page - "John is also renowned for his famous Chili con carne recipe, for which he was won numerous competitions, on Earth, Kepler-22b, and in the Andromeda galaxy where he won the title of intergalactic chili champion. "

[@kskaiseraaron]

I need that recipe

[@matthewdavies2057]

His super secret ingredient: Peanut butter.

[@orchdork775]

😂 love that

[@NormalGuyBrandon]

That's hilarious! The source links to an article about a chili cook off that doesn't mention John or space at all lmao.

[@davidb2380]

Rumor has it that he would have won the contest on epsilon Indi d had not the judge there been bribed.

[@josieschultz4241]

if john has kids i bet the bedtime stories go crazy. theyd be out in the blink of an eye just like me

[@dackbowland1876]

Lmfao

[@EnkiduIX]

I heard that playing recordings of JMG's voice has been banned in several small countries due to the opium-like effects. I hear the US state of Kentucky is looking into such a law itself.

[@chuco915C]

His secret weapon

[@hydriumstudio]

"now sleep tight and take a deep dive into your dreams in this wonderful and amazing home in which we liiiiiiiiiiiive"

[@colinsteadland]

“acid loving extremophile” was my nickname in high school

[@alanboulter7319]

Lol 😂. 👍

[@spartan11payne]

Hell yeah brother

[@1MarkKeller]

Why we don't have orbiters around all of the planets by now is sad.

[@yt.personal.identification]

Permanent monitoring from Lagrange points of each planet. This is where I would place probes in any galaxy if we could.

[@dammond696]

because people are starving and on drugs + all the wars and ego. what we need is less greed and more progress because your 100% right we should have them by now.

[@Dan-dy8zp]

@@yt.personal.identification Any starsystem?

[@libertycowboy2495]

Costs money. Our politicians would rather spend it on wars and social programs that actually do the opposite of intentions.

[@texastoast765]

Nah..let's concentrate our efforts on fruitless infinite wars bringing yachts for the ones "serving us" Cheers

[@reinholdw1800]

I hope we find out if there is even just single celled life on either Venus or Mars, or damn, anywhere in the solar system in our lifetime. Love your videos, John.

[@PaxAlotin-j6r]

Even if we find such evidence - we'd have to rule out that it didn't get blown off the Earth.

[@terrymckenzie8786]

Yes. Not asking for much is it.

[@MichaelWinter-ss6lx]

And watch NASA fire the next scientist, for being too good?

[@heatherr4321]

Just wanted to say we have identical dogs 🤣💜🐶

[@JohnnyWednesday]

@@PaxAlotin-j6r - Well not really - because it either evolved there, which means life is everywhere - or transpermia is easy - which means life is everywhere.

[@RMgolf]

At this point mars and Venus have shown so many major hints at current or past life it’s starting to seem like scientists are running out of plausible explanations for the clues.

[@delphinazizumbo8674]

and remembering that the early Earth had LIFE but very little oxygen the life had to make the oxygen we breath now, but for millions of years humans could not walk on Earth

[@CarlosSpicyWang]

They are running out of excuses. We could have alien microbes right in front of us and they’d still find ways to refute its existence.

[@PaxAlotin-j6r]

The Goldilocks's Zone is getting bigger by the day ----- 😉🙂😊

[@Abhishek-fe3zs]

Do you think maybe mars has intelligent life under the surface or somewhere where the rover simply hasn't been?

[@jopwarmy]

@@delphinazizumbo8674plus, life started on earth almost right away when earth was, by today’s standards, probably also a hellscape

[@laurachapple6795]

Don't worry, the Venusians are like, "nothing alive can exist on Earth, it's way too cold and the PH is too high. There must be another explanation for those gases - we'll figure it out."

[@ClaudioQuispeEspinoza]

And they are self aware colonies of microbials that spans continents....

[@rustyshackleford234]

I’m almost certain life is on Venus, Europa, Enceladus, titan, and many of the other oceanic worlds. Especially Venus and Titan, I’m glad we are sending dragonfly to Titan and davinci for Venus!!!

[@brick6347]

I'm not sure about Enceladus, it appears to be quite a young world. The evidence for Europa is quite compelling.

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

​@@brick6347 I read that recently, Europa was found to not have the correct conditions for oxigen in it's water Enceladus might be more likely for life

[@barbthegreat586]

I think we'll soon find out the evidence of primitive life on several planets/ moons.

[@arithmetikmilitantpoetry9548]

The soviet obsession with venus was absolutely fascinating. I remember reading its purpose being to lesson tension surrounding the cold war. Which makes sense. I have to wonder what they could have built instead of x*ten million nukes

[@MichaelWinter-ss6lx]

A nuke motor, attached to MIR. To directly monitor landing probes at different locations. Or, MIR too big and fragile. Nuke motor onto the 2nd life & propulsion module thats now on ISS. Without the cold war, there would have been no need for a treaty against nuke tech in space. That has tied us to LEO.

[@davidwuhrer6704]

They scrapped their manned moon landing programme in favour of second strike capability in the arms race. No point in doing astronomy for all mankind when the class enemy wipes you and your extended family from the planet.

[@jota6262]

​@MichaelWinter-ss6lx Without WWII and the follow-on Cold War, which continues even today, there is nothing and no one in space. It would still be Flash Gordon flicks at children's matinees.

[@hayorge27]

​@@jota6262would be preferable to our 2024

[@GeorgiaPeech79]

@@jota6262 imagine how advanced we’d be if Germany had won ww2?

[@airiannawilliams3181]

For Venus, I believe a dirigible should be used. Float above the cloud cover, with a tethered scoop like apparatus, that collects the vanushian "water" from inside the clouds, with instruments that can analyze the particulates that get trapped. Of course we use glass or another acid resistant compound to house the instruments in, powered by the solar panels that cover the tops of the dirigibles. At these altitudes the temperature should be comparable to a warm summer day on Earth, so it all just needs to be able to survive the journey to Venus and atmospheric entry, and deployed in the upper atmosphere. Lots of technical hurdles to overcome, but we do have the level of tech required for it. Of course the tether would have to be able to hand molecular acids or it will snap from the Vanushian "water" as well, the thoughts I have is the scoop is deployed, but never retracted except when the wind speeds would rip it from the dirigible. With the scoop being streamlined and aerodynamic, where the collector is but a small amount, say a few ml at most per sample, it should be able to hand some extreme winds, say something like a large tornado in strength mostly due to the higher atmospheric pressures bellow the clouds would make a gentle breeze feel like a hurricane if deep enough. All we really need to do is catch some of dark line and examine it with a mobile lab to look for biological compounds, and send it's preliminary data back, later, if biological compounds are detected, then we can consider collection and return mission options, or just send a more advanced lab setup for better details, all remotely controlled similar to the Mars rovers. Also, the dirigible could have other instruments like infrared cameras, ground radar, additional imaging equipment so it can do a lot more science than just analyze samples collected. This could also be a good launching point for Carbon based rockets due to high starting altitudes and low efficiency that won't actually damage the vanushian atmosphere, since it's already carbon rich to start with.

[@srf2112]

That is mind blowing to think we've been looking right at possible life and never even considered it. Discoveries come in all forms.

[@CarneGranada]

We should probably be scared of any life forms that can survive on Venus😳

[@SweatierAcorn]

Not like they could come here anymore than we can go there

[@midwestairway]

It would most likely not be able to survive outside of its environment, as life is a delicate balance of chemical reactions that is resisting decaying, if that reaction doesn't have the right environment to keep going, it would lead to its death "or reaches a resting state" its funny that living is simply a resistance to death.

[@davidwuhrer6704]

Our atmosphere is deadly to anything not from here, and even to a lot from here. ( I mean anaerobic bacteria don't survive this much oxygen, and most life is under water anyway.) Just like Venus is deadly to anything not Veneric, and Mars is deadly to anything not Martian. I don't think we have anything to worry about.

[@cobinasaur]

To be fair anything living on Venus would also see Earth as a toxic hellscape where it rains otherworldly chemicals (water).

[@barbthegreat586]

The life is supposed to be in the Venus's atmosphere and not on the planet.

[@prokjohnny7414]

Just wanted to say found your channel a couple weeks ago and your content is incredible. I can’t stop watching your videos, this type of content is the future of education right here imo. Keep up the good work!

[@jimc.goodfellas]

I like this slower talking JMG

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

Longer pauses. I'm letting the info sink in a bit more than I used to.

[@davidfrance3712]

I’ve been watching it on 1.25x speed 😅

[@MCsCreations]

There's another possibility there in the end, John. Because the "great filter" may not exist. And then... We're in the dark forest. Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@darkenergy436]

This guys voice is so soothing and suited for this subject

[@BruceWayne-mb4hk]

In 200 or more years I forsee a massive ethics debate concerning terraforming if primitive life exists on Mars, Venus or the moons of gas giants.

[@SweatierAcorn]

Hopefully debates have a stronger impact by that time.

[@AndrewBlucher]

It'll be too late then.

[@Zoratoune]

The mars trilogy by Kim stanley Robinson explores this with the "reds"

[@Peefman-c3f]

There isn't really a debate regarding protecting life on earth, and if broadcasted the impact is almost negligible

[@morgan0]

if life evolved faster or we lived forever, i could see an argument for terraforming planets with minimal but extant life, and allowing them to colonize the newly available habitats and evolve more complex forms, or parallel branches of life, if it’s related to us. or a thing to do if we could easily move around the galaxy and had tons of planets we wanted to spread life to. terraform worlds just to watch life evolve, even if we brought the initial microbes there.

[@dylanfoster7037]

😂 I love how JMG still calls out Thunderfoot every few years for being wrong about his phosphine gas debunking. I actually started watching this channel because he mentioned you calling you an idiot, weird how I don't watch him anymore.

[@PaxAlotin-j6r]

*John - It could be that Panspermia - seeded all the planets in our solar system - even the gas giants* Something like a random shotgun approach.The consequence being that at least one of the planets would take. Perhaps they all 'took hold' but as conditions changed - like on Venus - they either _'withered on the vine'_ or were inhospitable from the outset. *That makes me think that a Panspermia event may have occurred multiple times as our solar system traveled through the 'Seeding grounds' of Space*

[@Nighterlev]

The problem with this theory is that the great silence no longer makes sense, you would expect to see life everywhere. At least intelligent life should be more common, or intelligent life is so rare we were made by accident. Or, the worst outcome being there's a great filer, some higher level beings traveling around to erase intelligent life & it got to our solar system, did that at the time of the dinosaurs, but somehow we survived. Mars & Venus faced much worse out comes tho.

[@MichaelWinter-ss6lx]

@Nighterlev, what silence? What makes you believe we can see or hear anything from over a lightyear away? Earth sized planets? Only around red dwarf stars. And they have wild radiations. Radio signals? Decrease by the same law as gravity. Only background noise left. We can not even land on our Moon. All attempts crashed. What makes you think our tech can suddenly pick up the galactic internet, or whatever? And if you would take a closer look at SETI, you might see things we are not told. How many times have ETs tryed to contact us, but were dismissed? Signal not repeated enough times; not originated near a star; according to the criteria, we'd dismiss our own signals! You would probably dismiss an alien, even if its right in front of you. Thats no offence; human brain is so strange!

[@PaxAlotin-j6r]

@@Nighterlev Or, the worst outcome being there's a great filer, some higher level beings traveling around to erase intelligent life & it got to our solar system, did that at the time of the dinosaurs, but somehow we survived. ---Reminds me of Stephen Baxter's writing. Terribly depressing stuff.

[@jota6262]

​@PaxAlotin-j6r Life is a virus and we are a persistent infection? I don't want to meet the antibodies.

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

​@@Nighterlev Intelligence doesn't need to be common, Evolution isn't a straight line, just because intelligence develops, doesn't mean it will last or have to develop society For example, Octopi and Squid are incredibly intelligent and have grasping appendages, but have too short of lifespans to develop it Dolphins and Birds don't have any appendages for grasping

[@rhouser1280]

If life can adapt & evolve to live in some of the most hell like places on earth, why couldn’t it do the same on Venus. If it was once a water world & life either arose there or was transplanted by a meteor, it’s possible to think that there could still be something there, maybe in the upper atmosphere.

[@bozomori2287]

They are looking for the fecal matter of that life. Oxygen on earth was the fecal matter of a past life form. Life = Fecal matter machine

[@TemporaryAccountOK]

You might be interested in the esoteric beliefs about bees and why they are used so often in ancient/modern symbolism. In short, the ancient world believed that life came here from Venus, and that several Venutian lifeforms still exist amongst us.

[@cybersnap6072]

Awesome. I hadn't even heard of the development of discovering that the phosphene is present at night and not at day. I remember people were using its absence in certain detections as a means of refuting the possibility of life there. Pretty great that actually turned out to be the opposite

[@auguststavbro]

I did my BSc at Cal Poly and took elements of biochemistry with Dr. Mogul (the professor who’s lab re-analyzed the pioneer data). He was an awesome teacher and really got me interested in biochem. Best of luck to him and his team!

[@scottlette]

I am open to the craziest of notions - that intelligent life may have already been, and gone, on other planets in our solar system. It's far from a big stretch of the imagination. But are we just going to follow in their own paths to extinction, or are we as the current dominat life form going to wake up to such a cycle and not repeat the same mistakes?

[@davidwuhrer6704]

Silurian hypothesis

[@Learningthetruth-ci5mw]

Great video Jon. Really enjoying your recent creative burst!!!

[@paige-vt8fn]

I'm currently eyeing great video suspiciously.... Thanks again, John! 👍🏼

[@AxelLazuli]

Right on time! Thanks JMG! ❤🎉

[@Killuminati23]

Sulphur is generally underrated, also for gardening, aroma compounds, etc.

[@stevenkrasner5532]

JMG Venus cannot give us or anything a "cold shoulder". A hot shoulder for sure and add a ton of pressure and Venus is giving us a "pressure cooker" shoulder!

[@eightbot9970]

I am partly convinced that people that don't find this stuff fascinating lack souls.

[@thejabberwalker]

This amazing universe in which we diiiiiiiiiiiiie.

[@riowhi7]

Fun fact: It's illegal to talk about Venus without mentioning that it's surface temperature is hot enough to melt lead.

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

By which country's laws?

[@CaliforniaBushman]

Seriously cheap missions can rocket there and deploy derigibles sitting at the 50km columb. Derigables with a hanging lab payload from a large weather balloon. We got this.

[@jackoverton8343]

We've spent trillions on useless wars. Would have had leftover cash after putting a rover or permanent satellite on every planet and moon.

[@dirremoire]

Agreed. It's likely cheaper to get to Venus than Mars so why we haven't done this already is beyond me.

[@glyngreen538]

Exciting life news! I hope they find proof of life in my lifetime.

[@Vaille32]

Venus has been growing on me.

[@SweatierAcorn]

You might want to consult your doctor about that

[@AndrewBlucher]

Maybe you can get a vaccination.

[@GizzyDillespee]

If you've been growing dark streaks, and giving off phosphene, then it's possible.

[@adambrain8365]

We need a KZbin plugin to give other channels JMG’s voice. One that pays him royalties to make him happy about such a thing.

[@adamstcg5080]

John you'll always be my favourite content creator. Thanks so much for sharing your interest with us all. Would love to see you on Joe Rogan you would blow his mind

[@toxicweas]

World wide Armageddon has possibly happened to life not once but twice on Mars and Venus both. Scary.

[@chistinelane]

Maybe that's the great filter. Earth pulled through snowball earth... But that doesn't seem to be a guarantee

[@yersipest]

The fact that Earth life has scraped by its mass extinctions is simply a case of survivorship bias. If it didn't, we wouldn't be here to discover that fact.

[@PovlKvols]

Always interesting and thought provoking. Thank you for sharing!

[@khjr14]

Plot twist: Venus is a Von Neumann probe droid foundry.

[@hmichaelkraut7968]

Thanks!

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

Thank you kindly!

[@barkasz6066]

A great intelligence culling filter in the Milky way? Ah yes, the Reapers. We have dismissed that claim.

[@mitseraffej5812]

I hope those in the space industry think long and hard before they propose a sample return mission form anywhere there may be life.

[@dirremoire]

We already have such missions in the works. Let's hope they don't use sulfuric acid to sterilize the samples.

[@Devil-Made]

I propose to NEVER return samples to earth. Instead keep them indefinitely confined to the space station for long term study, kept permanently sealed in an enclosed chamber never to come in direct contact with humans. Astronauts wouldn’t even be able to access that portion of the lab. Any organisms would be studied remotely, with several safeguards in place to prevent contamination. This would inevitably lead to the space station taking on a vastly more important role. Funding for it would increase tenfold overnight with such an announcement. Perhaps providing a much needed boom for our economy and fostering a renewed sense of cooperation between nations. The political benefits would be just as important as the scientific ones. And it would all start with one directive: keep alien life confined to the space station.

[@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24]

If it turns out there’s life on Venus, a lot more exoplanets that was once downplayed as habitable will be need to reconsidered imo.

[@audie-cashstack-uk4881]

Single digit iq nonsense

[@midwestairway]

Life is a chemical reaction, we have no idea how "entropy resistance " would work on other worlds with different environments, but entropy and the laws of thermodynamics is what made life to resist decaying, life originated because of one simple reaction that resisted decaying and found ways to keep itself going, so life can be a lot of things, and can be or not be intelligent.

[@WatsonHane]

“I heard there's a holy yellow sky Just make sure you close eyes Outside air will bring your death Just make sure you hold your breath” - Venusian 1 - King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard

[@dclap85]

Perfect timing!

[@codyj253]

Perfect timing

[@zooot820]

Black streaks in the atmosphere of venus, black streaks on the sand of mars, frogs turning black from radiation at chernobyl. It’s no longer a coincidence.

[@TardMan1]

Don't forget the brown streaks in your underwear

[@GarnetNewfree]

Good stuff, the graphics worked well, I enjoyed the presentation, cheers

[@jetboy33]

If it's ever proven that life exists, or existed at some point, on either Mars or Venus, it still doesn't mean that life in the universe is common. As JMG said, any life would be "cousins" of Earth life. It's possible that life began on one planet, and was deposited on the others via panspermia.

[@Dan-dy8zp]

Probably. It's going to be disappointingly boring.

[@staticgrass]

If we find microbes on Venus it means that microbial life is ubiquitous across the Milky Way. Either panspermia brings it to every planet or abiogenesis is common. Oh I am sure some will protest the solar system is unique but basically life is everywhere.

[@dirremoire]

Wouldn't panspermia mean life would be everywhere in the universe? Maybe DNA is the ultimate Von Neumann probe?

[@thearlomusic]

2-3 planets in the same solar system potentially have produced life, and that leads you to believe that life *wouldn't* be common everywhere else? What would it take to convince you?

[@jota6262]

​@@thearlomusicGreen Orion Women.

[@Rishi123456789]

I genuinely believe that life exists on every world, whether it's life as we know it or not. And that includes Venus.

[@EliasCalatayud]

Honestly venus makes more sense than mars

[@sunnyztmoney]

A fossil in another planet that vaguely resembles arachaeobacteria: WOAW REDDIT WE FOUND LIFE. BABY YEED IS REALLLLL A 6 month old fetus: ITS JUST A CLUMP OF CELLS

[@jalontf2]

Fr fr

[@colinrobinson1924]

Regarding your point about the Great Filter... The Filter could be anything that prevents intelligence from spreading through the Galaxy by colonising world after world - something we humans haven't done yet, and that may be less feasible than we (at least some of us) have tended to assume. In other words, the Galaxy may be life-friendly, and even intelligence-friendly, yet not colonisation-friendly.

[@jwhite146]

Overlooking the fact space is really big and we have only seen a small part of it.

[@blackterminal]

Thanks for the video.

[@ablation791]

Every upload just in time for bed!

[@Izumi_Ikebukuro]

I hope life is discovered on any planet during my lifetime

[@marleenvos4126]

Thank you for another great episode!

[@Alexandros.Mograine]

Maybe ”life finds a way” is more true than we realize

[@dirremoire]

Life must find a way, otherwise it isn't life.

[@kelsonlewis9252]

I know your channel is a lot of people's lullaby, haha. But, for me topics such as this grab my attention and keep me up instead, love it!

[@ishmiel21]

I think the possibility that we've been looking at life on Venus for decades upon decades is a huge sign that we've been looking for intelligent life in completely the wrong way, which, to me, means that they're not necessarily is a great filter. There could be intelligent life all over the place and we're just not looking for it in the right way.

[@PhillyFaithful93]

The great filter hypothesis is probably one of the spookiest possibilities out there, especially since there’s a 50% chance that this filter has yet to come.

[@tvs5941]

Fantastic.

[@bmpixy]

my idea is that if life arises on one object in a star system, it's likely that it will arise on other objects as well. after all, those objects are all made out of roughly the same stuff in approximately the same concentrations. thus, if that mixture can undergo abiogenesis in one place with those qualities, it's very reasonable to assume the same thing can occur in what is figuratively next door. however, i don't think many star systems have that right concentration of factors - elemental distribution, planetary bodies, stellar conditions, etc etc to get that initial chance to begin with. basically, it's sorta like here on earth. where there's the resources to support an abundance of life, there is indeed an abundance of life. where there's a dearth of resources, there's little to no life. our solar system might just be the equivalent of a tropical rainforest in the context of the wider universe.

[@alexiordache760]

Great episode!

[@camojoe83]

Well, here's to hoping it's not something like Thread spores...

[@Preston241]

What are thread spores?

[@QuantumPK]

Most likely is.. Spore casings have been found to survive the heat of planetary re-entry, if there is Life out there in the System it's probably Fungal or Lichen. I Think Lichen can survive the void for extended periods and live off just rock and minerals

[@g00glian0]

I have been wanting to read your book that you promote! Maybe I will order it today.

[@TechneMoira]

This episode is a good reminder that maybe we should have an objective recap about "Filter" theory and what humans can reasonably expect if life in any form is detected in outer space

[@frynotfray]

Thanks John!

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

Thanks!

[@danielwoolman8969]

Life is likely everywhere and we just are very limited with our five senses in perceiving it. Our senses are like a needle on a record player only able to read the grooves on a record while all around the room are things the needle can’t sense or comprehend due to its limited scope of perception.

[@leer5858]

Scientists use instruments to see many things that can't be seen with our 5 senses

[@AndrewBlucher]

What? You only have five senses? I've discovered a new lifeform!

[@android584]

Climate alarmists claim that earth could end up like Venus. But the sun is nearly twice as strong for Venus

[@asher9606]

I mean that's not the only factor. There's also the HUGE amount of greenhouse gasses in venus's atmosphere trapping the heat like a blanket. CO2 is also a greenhouse gas which we are putting a lot of in earth's atmosphere causing the same effect.

[@chuco915C]

We usually turn away from dark streaks so that’s understandable.

[@piggypiggypig1746]

The great filter conCERN's me too. Maybe we should start looking for tiny black holes orbiting within the Goldilocks zone of other star systems.

[@the_primal_instinct]

I propose a drinking game. When a new JMG video pops up, while watching it take a shot every time you hear "life".

[@beatzbyreefah]

The information you gave on Venus was very interesting. If it was possible for all of those things to happen and life did exist it'd be crazy that it could deal with those pressure from temperatures

[@brendancaulfield970]

John, I'm seeing a lot of schlock science clickbait channels claiming high profile celebrity scientists are warning that Betelgeuse is about to go supernova. I don't watch dodgy shit, but there's enough consistency to make me wonder if there's some development with Betelgeuse that I've missed. Has it dimmed again?

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

It's just belching out carbon clouds and they dim it. It's not doing much right now though. It'll go supernova for sure, it's a huge star that's unstable, but we're lookin at a time frame of 100,000 years. Could happen tomorrow, but more likely thousands of years from now. And when it does, it won't affect us. Too far away.

[@brendancaulfield970]

@@JohnMichaelGodier Cheers John! Just business as usual for Betelgeuse. Classic click bait then! Thanks for the rapid response.

[@acmelka]

In the early 1900's most people who had an opinion thought Mars had Martians who built canals and less so that Venus was a hot jungle world. I kinda wish I lived in that universe...

[@Sybil_Detard]

I love those early Science Fiction stories.

[@Menstral]

The world of illusion and ignorance and partial knowledge, no you don't

[@notsogreat123]

So which is it ? Phosphine (PH₃) Chemical Nature: Inorganic compound. Appearance: Colorless gas. Odor: Strong, fishy smell. Toxicity: Less toxic compared to phosgene, but still hazardous. Uses: Commonly used as a pesticide and in the electronics industry1. Phosgene (COCl₂) Chemical Nature: Organic compound. Appearance: Colorless gas. Odor: Musty, resembling freshly cut hay or grass. Toxicity: Highly toxic and was used as a chemical weapon during World War I.

[@jota6262]

"Fix bayonets, lads, today we're going over the top into the atmosphere of Venus." That could be a line from a Blackadder episode.

[@daxwax1]

* says most terrifying and sinister thing I've ever heard * * cheerfully * thanks for listening 😊

[@Madnessofmusic]

This is just gods equivilent of the "rabbit season duck season" gag isnt it?

[@aaronmarks9366]

This is super exciting

[@goobawhoba]

Showed this to my dad and he goes "who cares, they dont have any evidence" like yes, they do, it was just talked about "not really" boomers are helpless.

[@jota6262]

Don't be so hard on Boomers, they grew up in the heyday of the Space Race, rockets are in their blood. Asking for evidence, not speculation or faith, is what sets science apart from everything else.

[@donkconklin4356]

I believe the great filter that's responsible for the deafening silence is that every advanced civilization chooses to travel "inward" into thier own simulations.

[@TheOneWhoMightBe]

It's pretty wild to think we had three planets in the one solar system with liquid water on the surface all at the same time, and that one of those (Venus) might have still had liquid water until around the same time as the Cambrian Explosion here on Earth.

[@JonnoPlays]

Is there some reason why these revelations are all coming to light at the same time? 🤔 Doesn't seem like the evidence is new, only our perspective.

[@dirremoire]

Maybe they're trying to break the news slowly.

[@kingnarothept6917]

What's next? A New Hint of Life on Europa/Enceladus/Titan?

[@hystericheretic7678]

Simulations theory video jmg please. I’d like it if you talked about the most plausible reason it’s made if it is.

[@Sybil_Detard]

Damn those Venusians and their icy, icy shoulders!

[@atara.sx-]

wouldn't it be awesomely ironic if, in all of humanity's struggle with finding out whether or not we're alone, *every* planet actually has life in different forms?

[@christophe5756]

John Michael, things are getting HEAVY… 😳

[@robbabcock_]

Great stuff!

[@aussieausbourne1]

Something to look into is the ultraviolet blocking ability of the atmosphere of venus because the gasses being detected may be able to exist until it drifts high enough to interact with the light

[@Ember_Lumen5]

Mr. Godier dropped!

[@hometennispractice4276]

all life is sentient. on different levels (obviously)

[@maxtube444]

Very original title, John.

[@ElTwOJaY]

Extraordinary Claims require Extraordinary Evidence