A New Retinol Alternative, Aquaphor Lip Swelling, & Acquisition of Aesop | Doctorly Unhinged EP #7

[@primordialmeow7249]

Hey Doc Babes from a newly-retired RN. 68 yo went to my Derm yesterday and he RAVED about my "gorgeous" skin...thanks to you and Dr. Dray. ❤

[@lism2164]

What products do you use?

[@LoveABun]

So what are you using/doing?

[@dzingunyte]

Doc Dray is the best too! Am I right?? I started to wear sunblock because of her. My skin totally transformed

[@01jausten]

I watch your channel to learn about evidence based skincare. As far as the smell of skincare is concerned, I don't want to smell of anything - I want the best skin I can have. If I do want a nice smell, I can choose to wear a perfume. Keep up the good work guys. You're giggling is infectious & always cheers me up.

[@mimiwetu6998]

Competent dermatologists at work as always. Would you please do a series on lip care? Also +1 to the group of people who appreciate the clinical based content as apprised to experiential/influencer skin care

[@nancywalker2256]

Forget the expensive, don’t do much for us brands/products and continue to tells us what to use, what works. Love you guys and what you do.

[@starsof1889]

please keep on with the content aimed at those of us with sensitive skin, I appreciate your knowledge and opinions on clinical based and data backed ingredients...additionally, I appreciate the discussion that falls in a variety of budgets.

[@teeh917]

All I can say is, don't change anything you're doing right now. You two Doctors are great !! 🌺

[@dianechayer7336]

I love your scientific content. When an influencer talks about a product “that smells so good”, I run away! Thank you for being so interesting. Your content is always super valuable.

[@adhdfitgirl]

I love this ❤️🙏

[@blievrn1540]

I would like to see a podcast where you list the best products, in your opinions, for aging skin. Not necessarily the most expensive/ pharmaceutical grade but what we should be using and what works.. sunscreen, vitamin C, what products should we be using and the best out there for results

[@shellbell4136]

I have been putting Vaseline and sunscreen on my lips for years, glad you approve this. Works really well!

[@1hanakimi]

Wow! I had no idea the aquaphor SPF was doing this to people!!! I’ve never tried it but I’m so happy to be aware! 🙌🏽 Thank you so much for sharing!!! 💜💜💜

[@dianetough8100]

I am so glad I watched this! I live in a cold climate and tried using Aquaphor to treat. They got a LOT worse really quickly, and after watching this, I checked and it does have SPF ingredient you cautioned about. Just tossed it! Thanks for providing such helpful and science-based information!

[@swineinny1]

Dr. Dray recs Aquaphor Lip SPF frequently & has for years. Based on her rec, I’ve been using it for years & have had no probs.

[@GavinFreeborn]

Just wanted to give some extra video engagement and say thanks. as a guy recently getting into dermatology you guys and the energy you bring has really changed my view on skin care.

[@MargaretSchindel]

I’d love to see you include more high-end skincare brands that focus on clinical efficacy, such as Calecim, Truth Treatment Systems, SkinMedica, Osmosis MD, MDAiRE, Le Mieux, Vivier (especially their vitamin C products), Revision Skincare, SENTÉ, etc.

[@amessina4333]

Omg YES!!! Love this! Throw Emepelle, OneSkin and Neogenesis in there, too! Maybe with a side of SkinBetter, Zo Skin and Obagi? And a smidge of IsClinical? 😆😆 New series ‼️ alert 🚨

[@jgoldfarb3]

Good Morning to my favorite Doctors. Your Podcast’s/YT are the best. I love being able to watch your smiling faces. This Podcast is so interesting, you’re always on topics I want to hear.

[@MargaretSchindel]

Colorescience Color Balms are SPF 50 with 12.5% zinc oxide, no chemical active ingredients, no white cast, come in beautiful colors and can be used on lips, cheeks and even eyelids. They’re awesome!

[@Knk.07]

What really makes your channel different is all scientific evidence you provide. ❤ it!

[@tiffanynguyen3900]

You are super hilarious and very informative to talk about acquisition of Aesop. I love you guys so much ! Thank you for being amazing doctors ! Your content is highly appreciated and valued!

[@lucydeboxer2565]

Paula's Choice Lipscreen is EXCELLENT. SPF 50 AND very moisturizing.

[@LoveABun]

I’m a HUGE fan of the entire Aquaphor line-ever since it was prescribed as a compounding base for my radiation burn topical treatment after breast cancer radiation treatment. It is amazing stuff that I’ve found extremely healing of numerous skin issues-even very delicate/fragile skin areas. It turns very dry, atrophied, rough skin-even skin that includes tiny tears-into smooth, supple, moist skin. It also takes whitish-colored dry skin and brings back normal pinkish coloring. It can also relieve skin burning caused by severe dryness. I also love the Vanicream line!! I would use their Lip Protectant with SPF 30. Vanicream is developed for people with super sensitive skin.

[@patriciaenglish1027]

I love your reviews! Never boring. Always informative. Thank you!

[@ajaybhardwaj8719]

With all due respect to your comments on Aesop being hair and body, I lived in Australia for 3 years and Aesop is huge on the high-end skincare/natural market. I use their parsley seed face wash and their scrub products on my face and a serum that has niacinimide/vitamin C and other stuff. They have a lot of different face creams with various use cases that I also use regularly. I’d love to hear your take on them. They don’t have much with active ingredients like retinol and other stuff that I use regularly but I’m a huge fan of their products and quality. Definitely pricey though - especially in the US - 30% cheaper in Australia.

[@jydelca7297]

I’m so glad you mentioned the Aquaphor spf for lips, I actually have that product. Thanks! 🙏🏽

[@LoveABun]

Just because it gives some people trouble doesn’t mean it does to/for everyone. I use it and love it!

[@MissNikkola]

I Think There Should Be A Further Discussion On Natural Phytoretinols. There's Some Research That Suggests Natural Phytoretinol Is More Effective Because The Body Can Absorb It Better And Knows What To Do With It Versus A Manufactured Retinol.

[@lisawilliams3982]

What is a natural one

[@MissNikkola]

@@lisawilliams3982 Phytoretinols would be some of the ones they mentioned such as Bakuchiol, Sea Fennel Extract, Picao Preto, Rosehip oil, and Beef Talo.

[@555ayso]

I love y’all so lighthearted and informative. I look forward to all of y’all’s content 🥰

[@hellokitty_3641]

Yes! I also appreciate your evidence based medicine approach. No quack science.

[@Lorrainecats]

Very interesting discussion. You guys really know about products. Thank you so much.

[@jamesthomas423]

I used to love the Aesop hand soap with exfoliation…but then I started watching content like yours. And learned more about skincare that works for me.

[@deathbyexposure]

Fantastic episode. To weigh in on the spa vs efficacy debate, I came to Doctorly to figure out what was wrong with my skin. Turns out the fragrance in a very expensive "spa brand" (Le Labo Té Noir) was the culprit. I binged watched alllll the episodes and completely revamped my skin care routine. It doesn't mean I stopped using it completely (it smells so goooood ugh), but now I know what to expect of my skin if I want to use it - even sparingly. I think it would be awesome to have a breakdown of some of these consumer trends - especially the risks and rewards of use. I know it has really helped me be more intentional with the products I use on my face and body!

[@margieryne6220]

I want to know what the best products are! I want your honest opinions & that’s why I watch you! 🥰

[@blueskyvan4118]

Hey Docs, love you guys! Can you do an episode (or series!!) on hair products? Thanks!

[@juliechampion7695]

Hi Docs! FYI that Aquaphor also has a lip repair stick spf 30 which doesn’t have oxybenzone or lanolin. Go figure why their products have all kinds of different ingredients but I like it really well. Thanks for the video!

[@mighty_01]

I've been using Retin A since the 90's and my skin is flawless.

[@NotApplicable2874]

Hello docs, I would appreciate it if you did a video on tattoos - aftercare, the healing process, etc. It's becoming more and more common around the world and it is functionally an open wound in your skin - thank you

[@jydelca7297]

Yes, science-based content. That’s what I like the most, aside from your great personalities and honest approach. Thank you, so much!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@sharotej]

I used to consult Allure for all my skin care purchasing decisions before I found you guys and other derms on KZbin. The folks at Allure love every sample anyone sends them, no matter how overpriced and headache-inducing. I think that people who follow your channel like that you cut through the b.s.

[@sugarfree_2023]

Argirelin worked just perfect for me. I didn't have deep wrinkles but it helped me to erase fine lines. I am 41 And your skin has to be well exfoliated. Combine with massage for best results

[@glowwitherin]

Is a video on skincare in pregnancy in the works? I need it please 🙏🏻 The amount of information out there is all over the place on the topic and would love to know Doctorly’s opinions!!

[@mookykitten]

I’ve used various Aesop products over the years. The lip oil (discontinued) and violet leaf hair balm were the favourites. The face cleanser and scalp cleansers were too mild for me but maybe that’s a good thing. Overall, the sensory experience is wonderful for the soul and nervous system:) pls review!!

[@lisab.3091]

Triple bonus points for your correct use of Occam's Razor 👏👏👏 Please talk more about Castor Seed Oil in lip products. I had the same lip ballooning/peeling reaction to it that some people are attributing to Aquaphor. You mentioned it briefly in one of your earlier videos which led me to check the ingredients in all of my lip care and lip color products. It was in everything. I immediately removed products containing it from my lip care routine and my lip color products, switched to CeraVe Healing Ointment and my lips healed almost overnight. Not kidding it was like a miracle. I now take great care to make sure that Castor Seed Oil (ricinus communis) isn't in any of my lip products. I haven't experienced any swelling or peeling since eliminating Castor Seed Oil.

[@ebadrehman2941]

Thankyou for providing us free valuable information

[@carolchristmas4702]

If one is just starting out their skincare journey, having a 1 ingredient product can be helpful because you know exactly what you are getting.

[@amybutler5199]

I have a stick of Aquaphor lip repair stick + sunscreen in front of me. It does not have Oxybenzone on the list of ingredients. It lists Avobenzone, Homosalate, Octisalate and Octocrylene.

[@jeffreyv939]

Likewise! Maybe some regions have gotten an updated product relatively recently?

[@cynthiagonzalez3810]

I just bought the same one. Me frantically checking the ingredients while watching this.

[@shirleyinnes6821]

Same here.

[@theateam4777]

Loving your podcast! In regards to sunscreen being one of the most important items to use for rosacea, it would be great to dedicate a video to Rosa ea friendly sunscreens and what ones to steer clear of. Thanks for your fantastic content!

[@internationalsuperspy._.3610]

A friend with rosacea uses the Eucerin oil control sunscreen and loves it

[@pattymcguire6130]

I have used Aesop skincare products, I love their blue camomile mask, very soothing and hydrating to face. Their products have good ingredients from what I see. They are expensive. I love their stores, but I am a skincare junkie:)

[@bambi_saurusrex]

Yes, I feel like most of us wants the science. But yea the best spa brands would be nice. But like… which ones are maybe also affective. I look forward for a video like that though because I know I can always trust you guys to be honest. Thank you for making content for us ❤

[@MoonCat33]

Love you guys. Thank you for the education, fun, and humor! 🎉

[@ollie14may]

I had a 10 step Aesop routine for years but now I just use drunk elephant retinol and sunscreen - but I still love Aesop those moisturisers are special

[@carolhernandez1685]

Please do a video on anti aging products for men over 50 or over 60. Thanks!

[@maryedge8666]

YES to the Drs. Maxfield and Shah go to the spa!!!!

[@ljf1967]

I've always just used regular sunscreen on my lips and on my hair part. There's no more painful sun burn than on your scalp..especially when you accidentally comb it! Love your videos!!

[@LSwanson-sn6rs]

As the mommy of a geochemist - pls keep up the science based info 🥰, it’s appreciated 🧪🧬🔬

[@asimona4090]

Rosehip oil can be used more for the contained vitamin C, rather then Retinol. I have use it because I cannot tolerate vitamin C creams , to wich my skin reacts. I love your podcasts, I learn something new every time I watch them!❤

[@debbiewalker273]

Blistex has a lip sunscreen SPF 30 with no Oxybenzone. I really like it, and no white cast at all.

[@jengoss4280]

Yes, listen to you for the actual, proven science. I am a Mary Kay Beauty Consultant. Because I have had oily skin for eons, and finally figured out 20 years ago that lanolin irritates my skin on every inch of my body, I am careful about understanding what will actually work, and why. And because I'm cynical. So your information has not only provided guidance, but in combination with the clinical research our company gives us, I have been able to use other authoritative sources, like the Cleveland Clinic, to better understand ingredients and their mechanisms and purposes. Now I am confident that I understand what's real and why, to help my customers get the best bang for their buck. I short, yeah, I am about the experience, but foremost I prefer that you provide scientific explanations. Peace!

[@nsundanzuzi2275]

👋🏽 Hey, can you guys kindly talk about itching after shower/bath.

[@weiguo9887]

I use Aesop’s shower gel and body balm, and it works sooooo much better than products like Cerave for me. For face product I listen to you two’s recommendations !

[@paomart]

I love your videos, they are very informative. Thank you! About Aquaphor lip sunscreen, I believe it's the one in the tube that contains Oxibenzone. The stick one does not, if I'm not mistaken

[@tracywofford3384]

The only problem with high end brands that are fragranced is that oftentimes they are fragranced with lemon peel and other citrus peel oils which have been shown to cause hyperpigmentation with sun exposure 😮

[@margieweaver864]

Vanicream makes a nice lip sunscreen. I find it to be gentle and moisturizing.❤

[@primordialmeow7249]

I use Vanicream sunscreen too. A bit of a cast, but do-able.

[@I_Am_SciCurious]

Jack Black makes an SPF 25 lip balm and it’s great stuff. Everyone in my family loves it. It contains petrolatum, shea butter, etc.

[@hanw7955]

I think it's worth reviewing brands that are common, whether boujee or not, but popular and available on the market because I am not always sure if they are just marketing and no substance or if they do something good for the skin. That's the thought this brought on for me. Also, I have rosacea and appreciate the shout out. I am looking forward to seeing more about it from you both. I am currently struggling with some 'rosacea breakouts' and am not sure what is the best thing for these as most advice is about acne. So far I am using Azelaic acid, trying some 2% salicylic acid exfoliator.. maybe need a bit more consistency, and would benefit from your science backed advice and reminders I guess. Thanks for the amazing educational content you two create, it's very helpful. 😊👍

[@janedumitru3909]

Aesop is HUGE in Australia!

[@JC-qk9nt]

The one time I tried a sunscreen with oxybenzone in it, I broke out in hives 10 minutes after being in the sun, and people thought I was nuts when I blamed the sunscreen and now look...

[@tellmegan]

I'm so curious if this is the sunscreen ingredient that I'm allergic too as well, going to have to go look at which ones I've reacted badly to and see if they contain it. It left me terrified of chemical sunscreens, so horrid to have a reaction to!

[@sarahkate111107]

Same!!!! Before I was educated on ingredients and realized the difference between sunblock and sunscreen. I refused to wear any because I thought it made me burn to the point of a sun rash 😂.

[@hopepennington5819]

Love you guys. Always fun and so educational ❤️Thank you for all the time and energy you put into everything!

[@jlrice571]

You guys are the best. Love the lip screen hack!

[@kimberlyperrotis8962]

Thanks, doctors, I just ordered the Aquaphor lip balm with 30 SPF. I’m not happy with the lip balm I’ve been using (Blistex), it has menthol or camphor, or something like that, in it that makes my lips tingle, almost burn. It also has only SPF 15. I’ve tried a few other SPF 30 lip balms, but they’re super dry and waxy-feeling, and have a chalky look, not what I what. I need something really moisturizing for my lifelong, chronic chapped lips. When I earned my first babysitting money at age 10, I spent it all on lip balm, I couldn’t stand my dry, cracked lips. Petrolatum feels good, but doesn’t have sunscreen and isn’t convenient to apply, I much prefer a lipstick-style applicator. I love Laniege for at night, and after brushing my teeth (even “mild” toothpaste burns my sensitive lips), but don’t want to have to deal with the pot and brush, I just apply lip balm too often for that to be convenient.

[@j_kess_]

Do you guys analyse Ole Henricksen products? They smell sooooo good but also seem to tout major clinical efficacy - any thoughts?

[@avisionofloveliness4962]

Interesting podcast, thanks. I'm a skincare minimalist, so no interest in trying non-essential fru fru stuff. But it's interesting to have a window into your world, like a science-based "what's new in the skincare world" segment.

[@mswtaz94]

Can you discuss retinol’s effect on cholesterol? My cholesterol went up considerably after regular use. While searching things that can cause a rapid rise in cholesterol, I found retinol on several lists.

[@lisawilliams3982]

Are u serious...mines went up since I started tretinoin but I have never heard it can affect cholesterol. Wow

[@mswtaz94]

@@lisawilliams3982 Yes, very serious. No one mentions it. I was admitted to the hospital for something else at the end of October and they did a cholesterol test. In August it was 182. In the hospital, it was 235. I had started using retinol daily. When no one could explain the rapid increase I started searching for answers and found a few articles that said retinol could cause it. I stopped using it and in February got it down to 203. Hopefully I can get it all the way back down.

[@luke184lisa]

I REALLY have been looking for an overall “FACE TIGHTNER”.. PLEEEEZE do a vid on this….. I have been looking for years..please include OTC as well!

[@rosezagaja8073]

Excited for rosacea segment!

[@UberMikee_]

Can you all discuss what PA+++ is in sunscreen and if we need it?

[@ann4934]

That's not an ingredient. It indicates the level of UVA (aging) protection. I think four +'s is the highest it goes (i.e. PA++++). This is related to the SPF number which only indicates the UVB (burning) protection.

[@hellokitty_3641]

I love you both; your candor and humor are always well received! Ty so much for taking a deep dive into these squirrly topics. I am happy to see your endorsement of chemical sunscreens. I use one daily, indoors or outdoors, because I spend hours in front of a computer and fluorescent lights.

[@nancykotar929]

Do you have a favorite non sticky mineral body sunscreen?

[@Nikkolas336]

Thank you guys. Lookin Great!!!

[@vlastasimpson9998]

Would not bother with the bougie smellies. Efficacy and science is where is at for people that look for skincare that works. Love your content and your rants 😉 ✌️

[@pamgripp3945]

Clinical content my favorite

[@maxsun4241]

Mesmerized by Dr. Maxfield

[@KarenCianca]

Just tell us what works based on science. That's why we listen.

[@tw1na]

Can't wait for the deep dive on safe skincare during pregnancy. Everything is questionable. Thank you Doctorly!!!🙏

[@annetweety]

Yes please

[@doughjoy]

Seconded!

[@JadeAshly]

Paula’s choice spf 50 doesn’t cast, dry out my lips at all and is wonderful!

[@polarbear5420]

Always fun and informative !

[@mxschopendour3000]

I'd love for y'all to go through products that are bestsellers in Sephora

[@karammiller]

Love your content and your personalities. Personally I have no interest in fragranced fluffy spa products, I’m looking for what is going to help my skin as I am getting older. My two cents 😊

[@oliversmom]

yes, please do reviews of the higher end lines. I love Aesop but get them for their fragrances, no idea whether they do anything for my skin but my bathroom smells heavenly. Would love to hear about spa brands too. Can you do Diptyque and Santa Maria Novella?

[@AshlynLundholm]

21:19 🤣🤣 I seriously love the podcast. Best decision ever.

[@Savethelepodopteraa]

VANICREAM lip protectant/suncreen… it does have a white cast, but it fades after 10 minutes of being on your skin. Under 8 dollars!

[@ruthc5230]

Please do make Go to the Spa videos showing skincare that has perfume as I believe it will give people a chance to educate them if the products are effective or not even if it has perfumes.

[@isabelab6851]

Just checked my aquaphor lip sunscreen and it does not have oxybenzone…but this is a very interesting question. Query: what about other chemical sunscreens approved in the US. This one has avobenzone, homosalate, octisalate, and octocrylene.

[@bluewishingfish]

Hi! I love your channel! If you do end up doing a video that includes brands like Aesop, could you also add Le Labo products for comparison? I love Aesop, just getting into Le Labo. Curious to hear what you both think if you end up doing a video like this. Thanks!

[@lorindav5549]

I prefer fragrance free (inexpensive doesn't hurt). Developed a fragrance intolerance and my skin appreciates when I read labels. Love the clinical research because while I can read the publications and such but without the medical training I have to do much more research to understand.

[@morganfresina6710]

O'Keeffe's lip balm with SPF 35. It's a chemical sunscreen, so no cast. It's affordable and easy to find.

[@brennaweaver3974]

Does it smell, feel, or taste like sunscreen at all?

[@conniemckinley7428]

Thanks guys! 👍😁 Science; YES! Hype; NO! Can't wait for your follow-up on rosacea!🙌 I have rosacea, but I seem to only tolerate titanium dioxide on face (La Roche-Posay tinted mineral is what I use on my face to hide the flush). The tint is too messy for the body and I have a hard time finding other sunscreen that doesn't give me a burning, itchy rash. I live in Florida and the dermatologist says wear a hat and long sleeves🥵 Really?!

[@picklebird1261]

I have rosacea too and have found that the best facial sunscreens for me have been some of the ones from Korea. The Beauty of Joseon Sun Relief SPF 50 PA++++ is my favorite because it can act as a moisturizer as well as a sunscreen. It is not greasy at all and absorbs into the skin and does not sting the eyes. It is not water resistant so it is not good for a day at the beach or sports etc. or if your face is sweating heavily. It feels like applying a light hydrating lotion to the skin. There are several other brands that have excellent reputations as well but I haven't tried them. Kelly Driscoll has a KZbin channel about them if you are interested.

[@conniemckinley7428]

@@picklebird1261 Thanks!🙂

[@pmlf822]

Hi doctors, question re: body skincare: On a day when you don't shower or bathe, do you still recommend putting on a body moisturizer? Would it still help with transepidermal water loss?

[@lozzavermy]

My fave lip balms are: Cancer Council SPF 50+ (I've tried the raspberry flavour) And Bondi Sands SPF50+ (I've tried the mango flavour) Both these sunscreens are amazing, they taste great, the are moisturising, and they're 50+ instead of a meager spf 15. I think they may only be available in Australia though?😊 I think Cancer council also have a ultra lip balm which is water resistant but I haven't tried that one.

[@lindseyshindler6594]

Those Australian brands have such great SPF products!!

[@lozzavermy]

​@Lindsey Shindler oi! oi! oi! People also love ultra Violette and naked Sundays but they're like three times the price and I'm not spending that much on something tiny that I'll probably either lose or leave in my pocket and put in the wash.

[@lindseyshindler6594]

@@lozzavermy Ohhh I feel you. When I fall in love with a tube I buy 3 and try to leave 1 by the door, one in the car, one for the bag.

[@pamelamcgowan1670]

Hey Drs! My top 3 Aesop products are: Post Poo Drops 😂 The Mouthwash and the Reverence exfoliating hand wash. You must try them ❤️

[@dizzyty]

100% I am in Colorado and I tried Aquafor and 100% got sunburn this includes any glosses so not just. I use SuperGoop Play LipBalm SPF 30. Also only had this issue since after COVID. When I had a full year of no direct sunlight.

[@Shelleyb4028]

I love Eminence Organics products, but they do have a lot of fragrance ( more natural fragrance ingredients). They have wonderful "experiential" products in my opinion. But do they work?? I know some that are so soothing and wonderful and will keep purchasing. But as far as actual data on their eficacy would be interesting! Thanks for all you do and I love your science based approach to skin care!!

[@GlaTre]

What about Methylene blue topically in this comparison ? There is a cream called Bluelene that have methylene blue in their ingredients, and states it is better than retinol. In fact, they say you have to suspend retinol while using Bluelene, cause they do opposites. Methylene blue promotes healthy cells while retinol encourage dead cell and turnover.

[@lola303]

Can we have series on Armpits. Recommend treatment, recommend products, and deodorant that prevent pigmentation.