A Non Dual View of Karma and Reincarnation

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Rupert Spira

Rupert Spira

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@dariushpezhmannia938
@dariushpezhmannia938 4 жыл бұрын
Persian poet Rumi says: “When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy.”
@teekalsang
@teekalsang 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful 💗💗💗
@teekalsang
@teekalsang 4 жыл бұрын
@Ruby Badilla🙏🙏🙏 thank u so much for the detailed explanation 💗🌎🌌💗
@megiMove
@megiMove 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!
@marysusa6985
@marysusa6985 4 жыл бұрын
Your ability to explain blows me away. Thank you as always for sharing, Rupert.
@bradstephan7886
@bradstephan7886 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent! And the most important point for 'us' - there is no 'us', i.e., there is no person attached to these whirlpools or series of sequential whirlpools. There is only 'localized' infinite Consciousness. This whirlpool analogy also made me think of how planets are formed, from the accretion of solar dust and debris, with each planet composed of a unique accumulation of solar dust and debris.
@mauriciobahia
@mauriciobahia 2 жыл бұрын
This whirlpool analogy was also used by Alan Watts. I guess Spira was inspired by Watts. It's a great analogy indeed!
@TheJooberjones
@TheJooberjones 4 жыл бұрын
Great analogy.. i think its less to do with actual physical birth/death and more of a moment to moment radiating of our individual and therefore collective energy. Every atom of our physical body is completely new every 7 years, we are undergoing continual reincarnation every instant. Consciousness expanding and retracting from different localizations as rupert puts it, an eternal fractal of love.
@allertonoff4
@allertonoff4 4 жыл бұрын
compare and contrast .. it is kinda heartbreaking .. all these souless drones incapable of thinking / feeling for themselves .. it is a massive problem in our consumerist culture .. people think they want information .. it is a commodity .. people think they want 'love' .. a person as an object for consumption .. 'love' is just another mythology, it doesn't exist .. it is merely complex series of highly codeified metaphorical ritual transaction
@allertonoff4
@allertonoff4 4 жыл бұрын
@Ruby Badilla .. i never get invited ! ;]
@allertonoff4
@allertonoff4 4 жыл бұрын
@Ruby Badilla .. high IQ, interesting, articulate, OZ .. plz check out my new spinoff experimental AV channel if U have time .. U R invited .. just google 'quixotic waltz' .. :]
@allertonoff4
@allertonoff4 4 жыл бұрын
you got no content, you are just an imaginary person so F^CK off .. Don't talk to me again.
@thinkandsend7453
@thinkandsend7453 3 жыл бұрын
The analogy with the whirlpools of the river and the river is nothing but Rupert's version of saying the same thing from the old and established analogy with the waves of the ocean and the ocean. However, many of his theories are appropriate sophisms to support his dogma.
@DevendraTak
@DevendraTak 4 жыл бұрын
So many ripples of information and Being to explore in this ever-flowing river of blessings (experiential knowledge) so generously shared by a whirlpool we experience as Rupert😀
@reeyanmaknojiya8921
@reeyanmaknojiya8921 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible explanation! Rupert puts it so simply
@lucasedwardodes.esilva8416
@lucasedwardodes.esilva8416 4 жыл бұрын
rupert is a genius!
@carlavela7106
@carlavela7106 3 жыл бұрын
""Some leftover ripples will coalesc down river forming another type of manifestation or character, another separated self to continue untill it transcends all the mental tendencies that were left behind."" That also can mean that not all the ripples that are gathered are the originals ones from a previous life, there can be certain kind of mixes.
@carlavela7106
@carlavela7106 3 жыл бұрын
@@r3b3lvegan89 I just heard from another teacher. Someone who likes to kill, then in another existence he will be given twice as much to continue experimenting, but it is possible that he likes that frequency and will not be able to transcend it. My english is not too good 😍🇲🇽👍
@carlavela7106
@carlavela7106 3 жыл бұрын
@@r3b3lvegan89 What I understand is that in reality there is no Karma and not even reincarnation because there is no person. That the only things are, mental tendencies that have to be trascended.
@paztururututu4864
@paztururututu4864 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rupert! Thank you from my heart for what you share. I live in Spain. I listen to your videos. And I've read a bit of a book of yours. Thank God you share your point of view. ... So beautiful. Clarifying... Helpful... You help me feel myself and enjoy life. Thank you for what you share! As I love my friends, I love you! 😊 Life is so beautiful... sometimes, when I can contemplate it... is so magically beautiful everything... 😍❤ 🙏🏽
@Love-ct5hd
@Love-ct5hd 2 жыл бұрын
This was the best explanation i've ever heard ! Thank you 🧡
@davidsillars3181
@davidsillars3181 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic question and a thoughtful answer. Every ice cube is water, each is different, but their abiding nature is water. No matter how many we make. The concept of a 'base' (alaya) that accrues karma is troublingly dualistic. Perhaps karma and reincarnation are relative truths, not absolute. Just as there is only samsara and nirvana from samsaric view, from the point of view of nirvana there is neither samsara nor nirvana. Who knows? 🤔❤
@mikebucur8461
@mikebucur8461 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Rupert! I love your work.
@msissler
@msissler 4 жыл бұрын
You can apply this to all patterns.
@davidsweeney111
@davidsweeney111 4 жыл бұрын
This is very clear to me, consciousness has cross-generation memory, ie 50% of the new wirlpool may come from the previous wirlpool
@from-Texas
@from-Texas 4 жыл бұрын
@Ruby Badilla Thanks for posting this! You seemed to be very well read on this subject. I have a question for you. Do you identify as the consciousness that inhabits the body? Also, where do you invision where consciousness comes from? ex: brain? Body? other? Thanks for any attention you on this subject.
@gireeshneroth7127
@gireeshneroth7127 3 жыл бұрын
Consciousness is happening within itself as a living separate self through the karmic stream.
@lostwarriorwandering
@lostwarriorwandering 4 жыл бұрын
I love. Rupert, and he is my number one spiritual teacher. But I find his answer to this Buddhist man to be unsatisfying. So, excuse me if this is a little bit of a rant, but for starters, I don’t like this question about Karma and Reincarnation. I find that whenever someone asks this question they are already “off base” because they are trying to find safety in the idea that their apparent separate self will somehow survive in some form. I always feel with questions like this that the person should be directed back to the eternally existing present ...... where all there ever IS is Awareness shining its light as formlessness as form appears within this formlessness and disappears. In this context there is no Karma and there is no Reincarnation, there is just THIS ...... everything (even all time and place) just appearing as what IS. I also think of this question of Karma and Reincarnation in terms of the human brain. Our brain is a limited biological organ. It’s like a feedback loop that is just reflecting back to us its limitations. Just like if our eyes had a different biological structure, seeing would be a completely different experience. If the eyes filter was colored red, all colors would appear differently, or imagine what the world would look like if our eye evolved in a completely different way with say depth perception. The brain is no different, it’s just reflecting back to us the limits of its structure and function. Okay, so why am I going into all this? Because it is very hard for our brains to imagine NO TIME. Rupert speaks of this in other videos vey eloquently. Our brains, in order to organize reality according to our brains structure and limitation, needs time in order to be able to do its organizational and conceptual processes, and to create an apparent existence filled with stuff, including accomplishing things, and creating an apparent world. BUT if there truly is NO TIME, only the eternally present NOW, then the question of Karma and Reincarnation losses all significance except as kind of an intellectual mind adventure. Our brains have trouble with this entire concept of non-linear time. Anyway, just my rant. I don’t know ...... let’s be scientific and call it a provisional hypothesis that I am considering..... I’m not super attached to it so far lol. If you’ve read this far ..... omg ..... you’re as crazy as me 😂
@florinmoldovanu
@florinmoldovanu 4 жыл бұрын
the prospects of past and future existence are only valid if one involves ego, at least that's how I see it, but that again is just belief, mental talk. My mind making sense of it is not getting it. I did a few years back two 10 days silent Vipassana retreats and I found them quite inspirational and felt those sensations and things however some things didn't just make sense to me when it comes to Buddhism. 1. In Buddhism there is no soul but they claim that everyone had past and future lives. So if there is no soul where is the thread that connects all of these past lives?? Who got reborn?? Worse yet, have these individuals who claim to have witnessed their past lives really witnessed their own past lives or some other lives at random or they just had some hallucinations? 2. The aim is to stop the cycle of rebirth because birth leads to suffering. So what do they mean by this, that Buddhism is a sort of suicide ideology? Thing is that all of this talk is worth nothing because as J.Krishnamurti said "The word is not the thing." and any attempt of an individual to explain or portray an experience or concept does not compare to the real experience. I often find refreshing watching old videos of UG Krishnamurti (not the same as the above Krishnamurti) going on rants that spirituality and all of this talk is nonsense lol
@Nonconceptuality
@Nonconceptuality 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the idea of Karma automatically introduces time, which is only a function of mind; illusion. I have always felt Rupert is FAR too wordy and focused on descriptions, when Nonduality should be all about getting on with the PRACTICE.
@Daniel-hz7tk
@Daniel-hz7tk 4 жыл бұрын
Agree. But, though I do not "believe" in Karma, I have decided it is "real" if one's perspective allows this: if all our apparent separate selves are one, all just infinite consciousness experiencing the finite through us--each "I" is just "me" in different circumstances. All of life during the "now" is one awareness, so every perpetrator is also their own victim. We feel separate, but infinite consciousness experiences both sides of every experience simultaneously--instant karma. ("Simultaneously" is probably the wrong word since Infinite consciousness exists outside of time and space.) This sucks for our concept of justice on the "separate self" level--murderers seem to go free. But within the larger infinite consciousness, every action and reaction within is in balance.
@Nonconceptuality
@Nonconceptuality 4 жыл бұрын
@@florinmoldovanu I called myself a Buddhist for a decade but it never fit perfectly, i was still reading and searching. Then i came across the teachings of Ramana Maharshi and all seeking ceased. The step from teaching to pure practice must be taken for Liberation, but most remain trapped in mind.
@Nonconceptuality
@Nonconceptuality 4 жыл бұрын
@Ruby Badilla I feel he's more teacher than master.
@tjs8628
@tjs8628 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@susanphillips466
@susanphillips466 4 жыл бұрын
My understanding is that Karma is simply traces of energy, good or bad, that we bring with us from previous incarnations and which influences our tendencies/belief structures; however, it is still illusion and karma disappears when we awaken to our true nature. Namaste.
@Pfennigturm
@Pfennigturm 4 жыл бұрын
The picture of the river with its whirlpools and ripples is a very catchy and understandable metaphor, thank you so far! BUT for me it does not answer an essential QUESTION: If there is no individual self - in other words no unifying element - , what will bring the energies of the old whirlpool back together in exactly this new whirlpool? Rupert says, a baby is a new whirlpool that is just forming. But in terms of reincarnation: new whirlpools are only formed because there is to fulfill a "individual" karma (a certain, a unchanceable, a fixed, a clear defined combination of previous energies). Therefore and in this teaching: a baby must, at least in parts, be a determined whirlpool before it is born. What is the machanism or the entity that provides this determination, this "justified burden" that the baby has to bring with it in order to fulfill "his" (the old whirlpool's) karma? Maybe I misunderstood a very essential part of the teaching and sure, my english is not good enough to make the point clear. But maybe someone understands what I mean ...?
@claritadeluna6609
@claritadeluna6609 3 жыл бұрын
I lost track of the analogy with the ripples of water from the different pools. Sorry. I’ll have to comeback on another day to see if I can understand this lesson.
@teddybear9029
@teddybear9029 4 жыл бұрын
Asmrtastic!!!
@josegarcia-nn9tl
@josegarcia-nn9tl 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Rupert, first time I desagree with you, because I don't understand why you continue to make concessions every time there are question about karma and reincarnation. If there is only conciousness, how can we accept the idea of previous life, death and rebirth...Karma is related to the law of cause and effect, to the good and bad and other dualistic prejudices, while Reincarnation is related to the idea of time and the evolution /growth of the soul...etc You, I, We, are all unlimited, unchangeable conciousness here, now, always and forever. Our essential awareness does not have nothing to learn , not to evolve to anything better than our current perfection. So, what's the meaning of Karma and Reincarnation? For me they are only a way of seeing the continuity of the awareness, from the point of view of the separate-independent self. They are false prejudices that reinforce the idea of individuality and make more difficult the identification with our real self. You have teach us all your life that there's nothing to be in-carnate, and no carne (no flesh) to receive or embrace the only existing-"thing" which is awareness. In the Kastrup analogy, there is only one real stuff, which is water. The river, and the whirpools are just temporary contractions or coloring of the water, but they do not have any meaning at all for the real only-existing water. To use your favorite analogy ot the screen and the movie, karma and reincarnation is like believe in the reality of a serial film (Rocky I, Rocky 2, the Return of Rocky etc)
@from-Texas
@from-Texas 4 жыл бұрын
Well stated!
@bernardokeller
@bernardokeller 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your understanding of this matters. I hope Rupert can address it someday.
@robertlumsden5458
@robertlumsden5458 6 ай бұрын
Agreed. All explanations are inherently dualistic, all names. 'Karma' 'reincarnation', ''dual', 'non-dual'. The Tao that can be named is not the eternal Tao.
@versha212
@versha212 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely agreed! So many questions arise from this explanation of whirlpools, ripples, etc. The most important HOW does Rupert know all of this?! Seems like it just an idea, comes from mind, but mind can not know consciousness and how it works! The other question what about animals, they are whirlpools too? Can we become an animal in our next life, or we always have to become just human beings? Wait, but Rupert always was saying that We don’t even exist, and Mind doesn’t exist. But in this analogy We actually do exist, we are individual whirlpools with our own ripples after the death. So confusing! The best answer would be who can reincarnate, if it’s only water, consciousness? What Rupert is saying is just complete speculation and he had to mention it.
@sumpf3651
@sumpf3651 Ай бұрын
Yes, I agree. when we mention reincarnation, it seems there is an independent existence that makes separation. then non-dual becomes dualistic.
@RobbeyT1
@RobbeyT1 3 жыл бұрын
This explanation suggests that there is only one dimension and that time and space exist as a objective reality. Going further into the model of the whirlpool in the river. If we say that time and space are only concepts created by the Mind which is needed to understand and perceive duality, then since there is no time nor space (only the here and NOW), then the whirl pool from one part of the river at "our perceived" one time, and the other whirl pool at "our perceived" later time, are the very same whirl pool!! In other words, since there is No Space-time, there cannot be separate whirl pools, at all. So, you have a whirl pool dissolving it's form, and giving away it's information and then down the river reforming into another whirl pool and gaining additional information of itself and other whirl pools , then that becomes another whirl pool, and it happens over and over again. YET there is no Space-time (Only the presence, the Here and Now), so these whirl pools cannot be individuals, they are the very same one. This whirl pool and any subsequent whirl pools (formed from the previous ones), is an activity taking place on multiple dimensions at the same "time". This is what is referred to as the Soul. The "Soul" is thus a multi dimensional aspect, or vehicle of consciousness.
@kfwimmer
@kfwimmer 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation
@tarotwisdomcafe
@tarotwisdomcafe 4 жыл бұрын
I love Rupert but this explanation did not resonate with me. There is no linear time so how can a whirlpool carry out a past and future of its own patterns? Everything occurs and mind creates linearity from it, so we have sense of past and a sense of action and reaction in our current minds, but how can this be carried on throughout lifetimes?
@tinamasson6472
@tinamasson6472 4 жыл бұрын
There’s no time and space , all The wirlpools are expérienced in the everpresent and « same place », but in reality, all this is an infinite dream, an illusion, Don’t try to understand this from the relativ level , Hope it helps 😊
@spcsh1936
@spcsh1936 4 жыл бұрын
I still hope and pray my next whirlpool will be less turbulent :P
@gwang3103
@gwang3103 4 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@zenmaster9278
@zenmaster9278 3 жыл бұрын
Why? Its the strongest ripples that makes you grow the most💖
@martinegilde-brussee9818
@martinegilde-brussee9818 3 жыл бұрын
Who is the You that grows?
@ivanwesteurope
@ivanwesteurope 3 жыл бұрын
really do not have a reason to doubt the reincarnation. Facts are facts.
@markusbieler5384
@markusbieler5384 3 жыл бұрын
Historically viewed, Advaita was created to fight the expansion and influence of Buddhism in India. Thus there are some major differences. From a real advaitic perspective, Karma and rebirth makes little to no sense at all. The problem is you can't really tell a spiritual seeker that "from our point of view Buddha's viewpoint of Karma and rebirth is utter nonsense". Buddha usually has too high a standing for most spiritual seekers to accept that one of his major tenets is bogus. Same goes for the point of impermanence. Impermanence is Buddhas main tenet---in sharp contrast to advaitas eternal Brahman. Caught in the dilemma of believing in Advaita and at the same time having trouble to accept that Buddha may have been wrong on some of his core teachings, you find Advaita trying somehow to console them both.
@vinodmm6681
@vinodmm6681 2 жыл бұрын
Not really. Advaita was not created to fight the expansion of Buddhism. If you read Upanishads ,you know that Advaita comes from the Upanishads- e.g Aham Brahmasmi ,Tatvamasi etc..
@pauljoseph8691
@pauljoseph8691 4 жыл бұрын
Dearest zRupert looks tired. A difficult gig really having to answer questions at different levels. Give him a lunch off. Non duality is not understood. It is a far broader notion than our minds can fathom, so we limit it. Things are not as big as they seem is the explanation I have received. Walter Russell is a help here.
@oscar3490
@oscar3490 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Walter Russell suggestion!
@ferikurniawan9387
@ferikurniawan9387 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone can explain how the ripples surrounding work together with the body which is collective organs, and hormones that are also genetically inherited from our parents, in which also influence the attitudes and behaviors of the person, including the tendencies of mind activities?
@from-Texas
@from-Texas 4 жыл бұрын
We are all part and parcel of the divine. Each individuals karma is a barrier to that unity. A karmic path is CAST out into the cosmos and what follows is cosmic energies attracted to one's karmic cycle and another incarnation is formed. Over and over. Everyone of us is experiencing this. Does it not seem so?
@sobzuk
@sobzuk 3 жыл бұрын
Strikingly similar to the concept of the 5 skhandas of Tibetan Buddhism.
@nelyashamuelova8342
@nelyashamuelova8342 3 жыл бұрын
When are we stop reincarnation? In what state we should get?
@RobbeyT1
@RobbeyT1 3 жыл бұрын
Looking at another teacher, I wondered the same about how to stop reincarnating. Apparently Buddha said that it's Desire that makes you come back. Not desire for this or that, but the desire to come back into the physical world and to re experience all the pleasures of physicality. Another teacher said basically the same, it's because you are interested in physical life, in feeling, expressing, in enjoying duality and drama, enjoyment in feeling independent as a person. I can give you a link, but I find he's rather austere and quite depressing at times.
@patanjalibhati
@patanjalibhati 3 жыл бұрын
❤️
@stevebadachmusic
@stevebadachmusic 4 жыл бұрын
the questioner really isn't ready to hear what actually is. Rupert always seems to explain things only on the level of the questioner. It's nice, but judging from the comments, it misleads a lot of people.
@thanigaivenic9853
@thanigaivenic9853 4 жыл бұрын
WOW 💕💕💕💕💕
@salmonella4u
@salmonella4u Ай бұрын
This can make one think, that all your efforts, experiences, accumulated knowledge, morals and values, will all be basically gone and forgotten, once the body dies. You may come back, but not as yourself, but energy came together and you are something different, unrecognizable to yourself or anyone. Why then do we work so hard to become what we do, only for it to basically be recycled like a water bottle into something totally different and all that we knew in this life is no more, except possibly for a carry over fragment that snuck in? This is a bit unsettling. What is the purpose of the "water" that the whirlpools come from? Why does it even exist then, in the first place?
@polishdance
@polishdance 2 жыл бұрын
Nice theory. Any proof that it is actually true? Sleep analogy is not good enough…
@roxana6354
@roxana6354 2 жыл бұрын
So what's the use of liberation? Even we liberate and be one with Consciousness again Consciousness creates another whirlpool( body mind) and if the finite mind doesnt liberate it will still be whirlpool.
@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt
@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt 4 жыл бұрын
The ASMR audience is hilarious. The audience member posing the question is barely conscious
@fenzda
@fenzda 4 жыл бұрын
Where is Rupert today?
@badmamjamma
@badmamjamma 4 жыл бұрын
Do you mean physical location or if he's still teaching? If you mean still teaching, yes, he is. You can find him at his website if you Google him...... If you mean location, he is residing in England, but travels all over for retreats of his teachings. 🙂
@fenzda
@fenzda 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I did mean that. Glad to hear his is ok.
@badmamjamma
@badmamjamma 4 жыл бұрын
@@fenzda 🙂✌️🙂
@cctoutlemonde7816
@cctoutlemonde7816 3 жыл бұрын
Hi ! In deep sleep the relaxation in not totally made like in death because the body still perceived by others. isn’t it ?
@salmonella4u
@salmonella4u Ай бұрын
4 years later; Where is consciousness when it's not localized? How, in any manner does it manifest , unless it's manifested in combination with all consciousness as a whole with all souls as one, and how does a conscious "self" find a person to manifest in? Sorry for the long involved questions. I was waiting to come to a red light so I could stop and go into more depth.. Uh oh, cop. Kidding.
@UHFStation1
@UHFStation1 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, could you draw that on paper. I have no idea what was said here.
@daudimwanzia8478
@daudimwanzia8478 3 жыл бұрын
What do you remember from your past life that got carried over to this life?
@lnandogomes
@lnandogomes 3 жыл бұрын
tendencies
@justin5033
@justin5033 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love for someone to ask about DMT and how your consciousness goes to a very real but alternate dimension People say its a very familiar place, almost as if you were there before or something Could it be a higher dimension that is always present you just need to vibrate at the frequency? People see and telepathically communicate with beings that are intelligent and loving or sometimes give insights or prophecies and that seem very real Is this where our consciousness was before assuming the form of a human? But of course we aren't human we are consciousness Its very bizarre I don't know. There aren't many people that talk about it(its kind of taboo) Of course I don't think Rupert has experienced with DMT I'm kind of going off topic Of course you are still conscious and aware while this experience happens, you're still formless consciousness while you are there So you're still consciousness, its just a different environment you see than normal reality I don't know if we "go" anywhere when we die. Does our consciousness go somewhere else? Some other realm? Do we just reemerge with the universe? Will our consciousness ever become and assume the role of a human being again? So many interesting ways of pondering about this
@deedhesi8014
@deedhesi8014 4 жыл бұрын
1. There is lots of information on DMT on the internet and undoubtedly there are some experiences to be had. Ultimately these experiences are not continuous and arguably not really the same experience of ‘ selflessness/ enlightenment’ which advaita and other mystical traditions claim are possible. 2. It’s easy to get lost in intellectual ideas around some of the concepts you have highlighted. Yes they have some value but no one really knows and even if they did - would they really remove our suffering ? 3. It’s too simplified a assumption to say ‘ we are not human we are consciousness’. Go and read the upinshads which break this down in detail and make some of the distinctions a lot clearer. 4. For me, yes we are ultimately consciousness but essentially to recognise that for real, to experience that and know with certainty has to be the motive and goal. Even if this starts as faith, for me the logic seems at least hold up to scrutiny. There is no end to word games and semantics it’s a vicious circle. Knowledge has it uses as pointers but ironically ‘ god’ is beyond the intellectual and far removed from any linguistic gymnastics. The truth is to be found in the silence. Just random musings, please take with pinch of salt. 👍
@Nonconceptuality
@Nonconceptuality 4 жыл бұрын
Self/pure consciousness is the potential from which all arises. So worlds arise and pass within the unchanging "isness" of Self, not the other way around. Mind/beliefs that have not been released at death will work as the blueprint from which the new world/life arises.
@michaelmcclure3383
@michaelmcclure3383 4 жыл бұрын
I believe a Tibetan Lama was encouraged to take DMT. Afterwards he said that it was as far as one could go into the Bardo without actually dying. I was also hounded into taking it by someone up there in that world who has a book on the subject. This was many years ago and I was reluctant because I'd already awakened to consciousness and felt no need of some experience, extraordinary as it was. But it was an interesting experience indeed. I guess they gave me a big dose because I 'broke through' so to speak haha. The psyche beyond the waking state is pretty vast with personal as well as impersonal archetypal aspects. There can seem to be interaction and so on. (As there is here or in dreams). I think Ramana was asked about the heavenly realms whether they were real.. He said they are as real as the waking state Of course, why bloody not. But the fundamental thing to realize is the truth and primacy of consciousness, its nature and to come to rest in that All kinds of things are possible though. Like nadi astrology. Ever heard of that? I went to one place in Tamil nadu with a friend that wanted to go. The only thing I knew about it was from Ramesh Balsekar who had gone back in 1950 and UG Krishnamurti who had been to the place I went to Anyway, you go in cold and they have an indexing system wherein they take a thumb print. Come back with these dried palm leaves and ask you to only answer yes or no to a series of questions finally I answered yes to my name. Parents names. Wife's name dob. Field of study and many other details, all absolutely correct . I also did their past life reading which was a strange experience to apparently hear about your past life. They said I didnt hsve a future life and am liberated while alive (whatever that means because isnt it meaningless to be free if you were never bound haha) So its directed to an assumed individual.. Gotta be careful there or you'll just end up with some form of self aggrandizement Haha. Same thing if you have some extraordinary experience on the subtle dimensions of the psych, such as the noumenal or archetypal realm. You know you seem to interact with Jesus or Krishna, then what Haha In the end these are just curiosities and they can be major distractions if you aren't grounded in truth. Gotta be careful
@TheJooberjones
@TheJooberjones 4 жыл бұрын
Theres no such thing as “our” or “your” consciousness. What would become a human again? Its one substrate permeating and originating all of “this”. The human being assumes individuation for the practicality of interacting with the environment, but there is only one thing happening at the end of the day. Psychedelics in general have a ton of overlap with meditation, specifically reduction in default mode network activity in the brain.. leading to loss of self/other and spacetime. There is also overlap with kundalini and the rising of our sex energy/life force to the third eye pineal gland which is capable of releasing dmt endogenously.
@zenmaster9278
@zenmaster9278 3 жыл бұрын
My experiance with dmt was that i felt like leaving my body, out of body and the seperation feeling made me sure of that i was actually dying. And i came to another place filled with the strongest feeling og love and a female entity communicated with me for a time. Then i gradually felt gliding back to my body again, the most profound experiance i have ever had.
@benhallo1553
@benhallo1553 4 жыл бұрын
Their appears to be no evidence of this for me.
@carlavela7106
@carlavela7106 3 жыл бұрын
If you can practice self-inquiry....this will be revealed to you....inquire after every single thought....if you have a million of thoughts then you will have to inquire a millions of times. You say to yourself : To whom does this come ? Who is thinking ? Who is the thinker ? Who's thought is this ? Who beliefs in this ? Who is talking ? Who is saying this ? Who's memories are this ? Who am I ?...... and so on. Then something will happen that only you can experience it.
@benhallo1553
@benhallo1553 3 жыл бұрын
@@carlavela7106 I agree with self enquiry, it’s useful. I just don’t believe in these ideas of reincarnation
@carlavela7106
@carlavela7106 3 жыл бұрын
@@benhallo1553 Alone with The Alone kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWicmIuBiax4kJY
@carladewaal326
@carladewaal326 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much. Can you relate Russel Brand & Mooji?
@allertonoff4
@allertonoff4 4 жыл бұрын
侘寂 .. of all of the possible analogies in the universe i was writing about consciousness in terms of hurricanes immediately before listening to this Rupert .. synchronicity maybe ? .. just weird .. all the best, A4 (Jean:) .. oh BTW .. these people think they have questions, and that they want information from you .. but really what they want, and which cannot be communicated, is your way of thinking about things.
@Busabuck100
@Busabuck100 4 жыл бұрын
So the new baby whirlpool has some elements of its past whirlpool plus some different elements, ripples, from the consciousness river. So we are not eternal, but eternally changing ? The conscious expression of the whole that I am now will no longer exist as that conscious expression as a new whirlpool. A bit confused on this. .
@ElizabethReninger
@ElizabethReninger 4 жыл бұрын
Bodies and minds are eternally changing (as are all phenomena). Awareness/consciousness never belongs to its expressions ~ It only belongs to itself. Karma and reincarnation are mechanisms within the realm of the "perceived," kind of like the laws of physics. Awareness is the unchanging eternal Perceiver, within which all phenomena arise and dissolve.
@menroflkuk
@menroflkuk 4 жыл бұрын
Seeking feels so dead to me these days. There's no life in it. Not sure wether that's good or bad
@BigSausageTits
@BigSausageTits 4 жыл бұрын
maybe you're detaching from it. thats good.
@lostwarriorwandering
@lostwarriorwandering 4 жыл бұрын
I think it’s good! I still find myself seeking..... but omg is it stale, old, and nauseatingly repetitive .... it’s like the movie Groundhog Day ..... same bs, new day 😂 😭... like wtf am I gonna “find” that I haven’t found after searching for decade after decade? We can’t find it cuz we already have it ... Awareness 😂
@sallyarterton2702
@sallyarterton2702 4 жыл бұрын
Ask yourself the question '"Who is doing the seeking?" Look from the place from where you are seeking.
@albundy9597
@albundy9597 4 жыл бұрын
It is neither, it is pointless
@sallyarterton2702
@sallyarterton2702 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah well, the mind will refer to it as boring old emptiness/ nothingness
@heikeahlbory1738
@heikeahlbory1738 4 жыл бұрын
Pure consciousness is and was eternally empty... so..what could there be conveyed at all ????
@kaysalshaar
@kaysalshaar 4 жыл бұрын
The emptiness is alive. Its energy in different vibrations
@themodular2506
@themodular2506 4 жыл бұрын
'Whirlpools' .. hyperspatial Vortices .. YIKES ! .. perhaps via intuitive 'Zeitgeist' or otherwise phenomena .. We are speaking the Same Language Amigo =]
@themodular2506
@themodular2506 4 жыл бұрын
@Ruby Badilla .. i completely REFUSE to elucidate my intentions .. how Dare axe that of a Lady !
@themodular2506
@themodular2506 4 жыл бұрын
@Ruby Badilla we are NOT here to vascillate with your profound incomprehensions of the the percievable metaverse !
@themodular2506
@themodular2506 4 жыл бұрын
@Ruby Badilla 'presumptuous' might be the undestatement of the week
@themodular2506
@themodular2506 4 жыл бұрын
@Ruby Badilla kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZ2QiZqsbL1ng6c
@themodular2506
@themodular2506 4 жыл бұрын
@Ruby Badilla .. much as i would like to submit .. your'e an online controfreak with no content so F%CK OFF !
@versha212
@versha212 4 ай бұрын
Sorry, Rupert, but what you were just trying to explain sounds like a total Speculation. You can not know this, and no one can know this. We, our mind is not even a dust in the ocean of consciousness. This video confused a lot of people who trust you, I’m sure. I, myself is very disappointed. I’m sorry but it does not make any sense this explanation of whirlpools, ripples, etc.
@minji7687
@minji7687 Жыл бұрын
what reincarnation talk nonsense
@Devdevbruh
@Devdevbruh Жыл бұрын
cope
@Ive7779
@Ive7779 11 ай бұрын
It is Lila..The game called God..
@ronbk1177
@ronbk1177 4 жыл бұрын
What I got from this is he knows nothing I have been hearing these talking points for 40 years
@Pedro-s4k3y
@Pedro-s4k3y 2 ай бұрын
Personally I do not believe in Karma nor reincarnation.
@ILikeBSG
@ILikeBSG 4 жыл бұрын
But have you experienced this to be true? What experience have you had that tells you this is true?
@gwang3103
@gwang3103 4 жыл бұрын
You don't need experience. Science has already established both the reality of reincarnation -- see the research work of Ian Stevenson for example -- and the intrinsically dynamic, everchanging nature of all physical reality. We now know that atoms are not unchanging little billiard balls, but more like fluctuations of energy.
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