Is the Ego a Problem?

Rupert discusses why the separate self may or may not be problematic.
This clip was taken from the Buckland Spring Retreat, 2018. To watch the full video, see the link below.
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[@DelBoy573]

Saving this video for when I inevitability forget it all again 😂

[@albymngles8593]

Same🤣

[@dianesoh9636]

Great idea! For the same reason! Thanks!

[@Nocomment1]

Do you have a video to remind you that 1+1=2? Whenever you need knowledge to sink in, you listen, understand, remove all doubt and then repeat it until it becomes a living truth.

[@joebigly5454]

@@Nocomment1 when we were babies, we needed to be reminded that. this is more like calculus. it might not 'go in' the first time, because we've had years of conditioning telling us differently

[@melissamejia5196]

Ahahahahaha I do that too

[@GORDO-HUMILDE]

Loved the lucid dream example, I even cried watching this

[@elifineart]

That's good, crying is a sign of deep understanding that brings about an inner cleansing, hence the tears, peace.

[@ravindramurthy3486]

Could you please tell me what is a lucid dream? Thanks.

[@ayofrtho7014]

@@ravindramurthy3486 (I'm gonna speak in the "matrix" language, as in conscious means I'm awake and unconscious means I'm asleep. So dont overthink it haha) I've had a lucid dream before. It's basically a dream where you are aware you're dreaming and you can control what you do in it. When I had the lucid dream, I wanted to fly, so I flew. But if I became to aware that i was dreaming, i would start to wake up, so i tried to maintain semi conscious in the dream. They're really cool to have. You can do anything since you're dreaming.

[@ravindramurthy3486]

@@ayofrtho7014 Hello Friend: Thank you for your response. I just do not understand this. First of all, you have stated that "... conscious means I'm awake and unconscious means I'm asleep. Then you state: " I've had a lucid dream before. It's basically a dream where are you are aware you're dreaming and you can control what you do in it". If you are aware of your dream as you state - how can awareness arise in a state when you are asleep which by your statement equates with unconsciousness. (assuming that you believe that dream state occurs in your sleep). This potentially could mean awareness can exist when you are unconscious, which is an impossibility. (Also, please note that I have only quoted you. Whether I agree with your statements or not, may not be relevant in this response of mine). Thank you.

[@hansjoseph__]

“Suffering IS the search for happiness.” Thank you for pure, objective pointings Rupert 🕉

[@jodilynn8559]

We are already happiness❤️🙏. Finally the words mean something❤️

[@paulinezavitzianos7134]

Rupert seems to express himself in ever-widening rings of clarity ⚪️

[@TheAmbamatamantrasvideos]

his expressions are understood in ever-widening clarity

[@paulinezavitzianos7134]

@@TheAmbamatamantrasvideos Yes!

[@michaelquisutdeus2970]

I love it. The activity of not the entity as Rupert. Beautifully refined! 👍✌️

[@Nonconceptuality]

He engages the mind, which is exactly NOT spiritual practice.

[@Nonconceptuality]

I my experience, Mary and Jane makes me forget what im doing...

[@TheJooberjones]

Mary is trying to learn to lucid dream.. ahhh love it! You’re the best rupert

[@12703pp]

Fascinating! So the implication is that Mary has a purpose for using the idea of Jane; ie god/awareness uses the illusion of ‘me’ for learning lucid living!

[@SuperAndersonsa]

Straight bungee jump to Awareness. No philosophy crap! How blessed are we? To have Rupert?

[@mo2119]

This is how religion should’ve been structured from the beginning. Like an explanation of all things that appear real to us, and how it connects to something that is infinite, eternal, “all knowing”, all powerful. I love it. No separate god, but the one inside of us!

[@84sahi]

Super blessed ❤

[@GioiaIris]

Rupert, “numbing your suffering with beliefs”.... is the best statement ever concerning self-deception. Exactly what happen when a “clown” well trained on spiritual path claims the teachings to perpetrate himself, keeping suffering in apparent existence, but without touching it nor embracing it. ...empty and open space knows no resistance, only an object in it can be resistant. My gratitude for your impersonal and intimate way to teach is beyond my ability to name it.

[@ansonthomas984]

Sorry it’s late, how do I stop numbing myself with beliefs?

[@JasperThinks]

Imagine if we were taught these things at school with teachers like this.

[@vuqarcfrov216]

Then the world would be heaven

[@justin5033]

Probably won't ever happen. Its kinda why drugs are illegal. Sometimes drugs can give people these same type of experiences or realizing God (with DMT) But what good or purpose would that do for society? Society is built on practical thinking If everyone realized they are God and complete what motive would you have to be a consumer or buy "shit you dont need" Society and capitalism wants you to be insecure if you think about it

[@benjaminaras8717]

Would be sick Bro!

[@alientube1984]

It's not possible to realize this until you're somewhat 15 to 25. How would one even try to explain this to an 7 or 8 year old. We are here to try and share this with our children.

[@adigigiwupe3349]

This teachers would never be mad at us that we dont understand and no more bad grades : ) lol

[@tyson83200]

The illusion of separate self and discovering your divine nature. Thank you Ruperta! What a great message.

[@she-wonders]

I love Rupert's analogies. They're so simple yet resonate on a deep level.

[@jakobivarssonchannel]

One of Ruperts best. Beautiful.

[@kendiamond4251]

The Ego is the source of agency. Agency is the source of choice. Choice is the source of creation. Creation is the point. No ego, no point.

[@bobsmart8302]

Thank you Rupert! "Ignorance is stronger than belief". Love it.

[@kwixotic]

Spot on with the comment that once the "hurt self" is discovered to be an illusory creation then future hurts and resentments will cease to have the impact they have for whoever is caught up with them.

[@some1faraway26]

The world is a better place with Rupert and others teaching us how to learn about ourselves

[@tomrhodes1629]

I've been given the answers. Give me a "click" if you want them.....

[@sengchhuon2133]

Being in the power of NOW....there is no suffering, or sad. God lives in the NOW. Wherever you look there is the face of God. Thank you for sharing.

[@yvonne1181]

This is the wisest teaching about the ego I have ever heard! Much like Teacher Jesus he teaches in a comparison so a complex subject can be understood , even to me who hears in the simple explanations they bring me understanding otherwise I have trouble trying to comprehend teachings that are complex in nature and not tangible! Excellent teacher who teaches through experience to unfold understanding♥️ and wisdom!

[@azadalmasov5849]

"Suffering and accepting that it is just an activity of awereness" - Rupert Spira paradox. I liked it.

[@jodilynn8559]

Wow! Finally some of this wonderful teachers words are sinking into my heart. So thankful… thank you RS. Stay blessed everybody❤️

[@soleqna4343]

Love this mans voice, so perfectly hollow sounding in every word

[@lancejones4636]

Truly one of Rupert's best. Message received, sir.

[@andreasrylander]

For a while he lost me a bit, but in the end I got it. He ascribes positive feelings to awareness. Those that are not about the ego and person as such, but rather loving, including, open... happiness and peace. I see. I am so glad he clarified that at the end, because prior to that I was like "hang on... I am not sure I am liking what I am hearing here", but now I get it. =)

[@markimel4947]

The separate self thinking about the separate self.

[@seeker8097]

Mark Imel Except there is no separate self to think about a separate self. 🙂That would be like attributing a thought that appears within a dream to the character in the dream (Jane), rather than to Awareness (Mary). ❤️

[@markimel4947]

@@seeker8097 That was what I was saying. It's just another thought.

[@humanist7619]

@@markimel4947 It is materialistic analogy. It implies that mind is thinking about mind. In spirituality it is called as introspection. Introspection do happen many times, but how will you define consciousness then which enable introspection. In your analogy eternal, infinite, unchanging consciousness is reducible to constantly flickering introspection by the mind on the mind. This further imply that this flickering of mind is the emergent property of brain, which is technically speaking correct. But in this process you negate the existence of consciousness altogether. This is the Buddhist way. It gives you only partial depiction of reality but not whole nondual picture of existence. Anyway, congratulations!! you are the new Buddha 😂👍

[@javasroe6541]

:)

[@carmiiioi57]

🙏 Beautifully explained. Thank you

[@curiosity_saved_the_cat]

Suffering without resistance equals happiness, but not necessarily a smile. Happiness can be a very confusing word when the separate self tries to know what it is. From the point of view of suffering, happiness may almost feel like an insult. Perhaps the word pain is a less confusing description than happiness. It accommodates what is felt without judging it as good or bad, and leaves room for 'healing'.

[@84sahi]

Exactly

[@haunteddeandollsuk]

this is all just consciousness and the afterlife will stop the suffering of pain 😢 great advice from dr spira

[@billwheeler9617]

Sometimes i find it helpful to change suffer and suffering to endure and enduring in my mind.Losing the common understanding of the associated pain with sufferance tends to give a new clarity.

[@JoseBarahonaes]

This is so clear and yet hard to grasp, thank you Rupert for your patience!

[@muanisalrashed2471]

Lucid Dream..Dream without forgetting...wondeful... thank you so much... master Rupert

[@razoo9]

Love Mary and Jane analogy. This one example is enough for understanding. Thank you Rupert

[@JorgeRodriguez-nx5eq]

We have to understand that suffering is not the result of loosing a job or have a sickness or to loose a loved one.This is pain. Suffering is the result of the identification with the one who lost the job, or the one one who is sick etc. Once we recognize that this one does not exist, then suffering ends, but pain remain. In that way, the body mind complex will be able to cope more efficiently with the pain and even be able to be at peace in the middle of the painful circumstances generated with our present situation.

[@innerlight617]

good point!ॐ ॐ

[@catalinul1461]

Easy in practice, try this in real life, see if it works..

[@JorgeRodriguez-nx5eq]

Catalinul : Yes very difficult to accept that is why Jesus said “This is the peace that passes all understanding”

[@Misslotusification]

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional said Murakami. Suffering is the layer of thoughts coming with resistance to pain.

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[@ZenMountain]

If there is desire, there is an entity. Both desire and the entity appear in Awareness, but Awareness is independent and complete, untouched and free from any wants.

[@AudioVampireSoundEffects]

The suffering and happiness thing blew my mind

[@anandaizabella]

Wonderful teaching💚 from a wonderful teacher... much love to you Rupert 🙏

[@TimoHuising]

The ego is a problem, only to itself.

[@1laforees829]

The ego with a healthy physical and spiritual self- will do what it's meant to do properly. Serve the self. The spiritual self will in turn serve the physical form with the proper guidance to enjoying the moment. Sweet dreams.

[@nilanjandas9210]

desire from happiness and not for!

[@truthalwaysshines583]

Rupert is the most humble man, hes just pure awareness shining. No trace of a separate self. Eat , sleep and Be..

[@tomrhodes1629]

Watch out for the cult of personality. Jesus Christ didn't want anyone to worship him. THAT is the cult of personality: the church of satan. Look at your country today and you see what the cult of personality does. DESTRUCTION: whether the subject of that cult of personality is a perfect man who has identified himself with Christ, or a buffoon who identifies solely with the ego and is therefore an anti-Christ. Want the greatest secret in this Universe of limitation? The reason why you are experiencing it? Will you accept it if it doesn't come from a personality that you can elevate in your mind because you mistake man for meaning? Will you accept it from outside of the cult of personality? Truth is where you find it - not where you WANT to find it. I found it. Seek and ye shall find......

[@bradstephan7886]

The Mary - Jane analogy is also an excellent way to explain 'Jane's' lack of freewill - because there is no Jane to have freewill.

[@kathleen9272]

Suffering is fighting reality

[@vidhyabalaji3787]

Wonderful, simply wonderful!

[@baharam98]

Rupert, thank you for sharing the light❤

[@hajeradli3464]

Thank you 🙏 ❤

[@gireeshneroth7127]

Ego is consciousness' route to worldbeing itself. You are consciousness egobeing itself and hence worldbeing.

[@sheshraj5836]

A true vedanta i ever heard..

[@sherrygaley4675]

This is brilliantly explained!

[@marcellerusu]

Wow, finally this has bothered me for a long time. We are not saying the ego is an ultimate problem to awareness, but it is clearly a problem to you. & its not helpful to fool yourself in saying the ego is not a problem.

[@yeesirnwong3778]

Such a beautiful explanation 🙏❤️.

[@johannadiabone1055]

more clear i´ts impossible. life bless you Rupert

[@MrVikram444]

The best explanation... Thank you

[@jettsam]

You always have a good explanation Rupert, keep up the good work!

[@malabuha]

Ego is a pain in the butt of consciousness 😂

[@Woodzal]

Just watched this today, what a great episode

[@Joshua-dc1bs]

LOL

[@84sahi]

​@@Woodzalwhere is it ?

[@hengamehbeheshtian6465]

Such a lovely person,

[@cosmiccuriosity1466]

I love this so much hes very smart on spiritual psychology

[@salima.s2460]

What a wonderful video and message. Thank you so much 🙏❤️

[@dunnsdiaite8085]

Thank you for this, I appreciate how you break it down with such simplicity. Peace God

[@azadyash]

Great conversation

[@khushbooraval5519]

Namaste 🙏

[@henrysteadman963]

I love this, a little bit of genius. Thank you.

[@sokoleski]

Absolutely wounderful 💚

[@MrPrayuda]

Thanks, Rupert

[@andreispataru7077]

Amazing Rupert. Thank you so much for this

[@yenoiabysusanbraun9944]

All in one video ♥️♥️♥️ Trank you so much 💫

[@helenormes404]

Thank you xx

[@vi1332]

Absolutely perfect! Thank you! Just what I needed to hear right now.

[@piehound]

I have a philosophical or semantic problem with the separation of body and mind. For the moment let's say i can accept awareness as needing nothing. But in my opinion the mind is an extension or an expression of the body. When the body dies . . . the thoughts it had ( the mind or the ego ) also eventually dissolve. Not so ????

[@wilma8326]

The separate self is not the problem, nor is the dream. But the mistaken identification is, since it is the cause of suffering. Believing that our suffering is not a problem because it all appears in awareness, is spiritual bypassing which eventually doesn't bring us happiness. We are learning how to dream without forgetting we are infinite consciousness. Let's dream a dream of love, in love, as love ❤️

[@sandycarter5300]

Infinite consciousness, or God, doesn't dream. It knows only infinite Love - perfect infinite, indivisible being. The dream and dreamer are one and the same and arise only from the one belief in objectivity. It is a machine thought that spins out an endless narrative, and its "goal" or "intent" is to perpetuate itself by obscuring the everpresent Reality of divine Mind. It is "the one lie and liar". It can never make matter, minds, or lives. It can only spin out unreal data.

[@tomrhodes1629]

Yes. And ultimately we are learning not to have these painful dreams by not DESIRING them. Once you know the reason why you find yourself experiencing this world of LIMITATION, you know that you are here for one reason and one reason only: to overcome the ego by overcoming the desire that "created" the ego. Want the greatest secret in this entire Universe? The Meaning of Life? I've got it. Seek and ye shall find.....

[@johannboeing-messing979]

Thank you

[@devanshudesperado]

Developing strength of awareness is gaining the ability to think thoughts and experience perception without losing self-awareness. - Ramana Maharishi. Same as learning to dream lucidly.

[@ManifestationMastery]

Wonderful video Rupert

[@debjaniroy4126]

Gratitude.. 🙏

[@antonyg9172]

Yes . Not believing God is the serious problem of mankind in this earth . A person make himself ill by resentment and it produce a sense of guilt , fear and anxiety . The origin of all these deviations, are the results of misinformed consciences. Simply living without any further expectations in life , that continually spoiling the thoughts and quickly falls in to subjugation ,the root of slavery. So faith in God is an essential form of strength and courage that take him to life that produces sweetest fruits. Thank you.

[@hawkkim1974]

Thanks and very helpful.

[@charlesgodwin2191]

When we 'fall' asleep and dream, we 'fall' asleep to our conscious self or forget ourself and 'fall' into identification with the main character of the dream. Then as we wake up from the dream to our conscious self or remember ourself we recognize that we were dreaming. We do the same thing in the waking state. We 'fall' asleep to our eternal that I am, forget ourself, and become identified with some temporal portion of our experience, of what I am as an embodied human being and/or who I am, which changes with time, place and circumstance. When we wake up and remember ourself, our true eternal nature as that I am, we transition from the compulsive reactivity of the caterpillar to the conscious responsivity of the butterfly.

[@ajsalonius8455]

The waking self is always the dream percipient. My experience. I am never ever a different entity. Can anyone speak to that?

[@WillDanceAlone2U]

Dear Mr. Spira: if you could answer in one of your future videos: If awareness/consciousness is at peace, what is it manifesting for (Is it manifesting?)? Why doesn't it lay at peace, in happiness? That very push ( to know itself through manifestation doesn't demonstrate a lack of that very peace?

[@boyansystem893]

Gold!

[@gsamkaria]

Wonderful

[@paulwangler4354]

Do nothing. It does take effort to do nothing. But do nothing.

[@MarcosBetancort]

When he says: "when 'we' forget..." it must be referring to infinite consciousness forgetting, therefore if forgetting is a problem then the problem is with consciousness, on the other hand, if forgetting is not a problem, then that we forget and think of problems and things we do that are wrong even when just judged by us, we should not try to get rid or solve or trying remember what we forgot, as forgetting is natural and nothing wrong or in need of remembering. this is crucial in order to to cast away Rupert's approach of non duality as contradictory. by the way, all non dual teachings end up with this contradiction. In any case, if one blames the apparent self and not consciousness, still have to deal with the second part of my clarification. my conclusion is that consciousness, although atemporal and at rest, in its activity is lacking the power over the problems that our apparent self meets daily. the proof of this lack is that its activity in duality we have experienced this very lack of not corresponding to what is, surely, the problem should not be found in the apparent self, as it is just a production of awareness in whatever form it takes. Unless you make a distinction between ourselves as awareness and God as the Awareness of God, we will miss the additional life of God, which is the power that we lack, shown in His expression in Jesus, which by the Spirit make us partake of the life that overcame evil in duality including his body in physical resurrection.

[@ultimatereality3088]

Great explanation, thanks but the forgetting concept of awareness is not understood, anyway I great deciple of Rupert. Thanks again for this beautiful explanation.

[@yashshah5903]

so beautiful. wow

[@glynemartin]

So the separate self suffers because it sees itself as an entity and not an activity. So what now then?

[@monksee]

Meditation. :) The separate self (i.e Jane) is a constructed self through thoughts and feelings.... In the absense of thought we feel more like our "true self" i.e Mary...... Meditation helps to silence thoughts and therefore help you feel more like Mary...

[@monksee]

Meditation or you can also practice mindfulness/presense/awareness. Once you become aware of your thoughts the illusion of being Jane fades away....

[@Eric_Cartman001]

yeah what now then? that's what ego said.

[@dnmtravel9997]

Eric Cartman search for happiness.

[@tomrhodes1629]

Once you know the precise reason why you find yourself experiencing this world of LIMITATION, you will know that you are here for one reason and one reason only: to overcome the ego. And you will know exactly how this is accomplished. Want the greatest secret in this entire Universe? The Meaning of Life? I've got it. Seek and ye shall find.....

[@praveensdixit1]

5:44 made this mind go Oh!

[@TheAmbamatamantrasvideos]

so clear.. the dreamer needs the dream to exist, and the dream is unreal,, So the dreamer does not exist without the unreal dream,, makes that the dreamer unreal? is there anything left other than fantasy? nothing exists.. only mindstuff.. free! you are free! aways were free! now you feel it..> it is felt,, by? ? haha the awareness is aware of its own freedom.

[@Elazar40]

Ego is a "problem," only if it is regarded as a sum total of the Self. The greatest atrocities of human history have been perpetrated in a quest for the immortality of the ego, which is a transient illusion.

[@nocosa]

Very good. When you mistake Ego for yourself.

[@chantalfoucher547]

We lost each other because what if anger is the suffering. I cant say anger is just a play. If I say its just a play then its not anger? Its happiness?

[@mo2119]

Funny, after I heard that analogy of marry and Jane, I dreamt that I was in a cafeteria of nothing but me’s!!! I proceeded to say, “it’s like a bunch of ‘doppelgänger’s on the outside” perhaps I’m taking this analogy further, all of the “other” selves in the dream are just MARY.

[@lesbrosanthony3813]

Merci

[@tomrhodes1629]

"A" problem? THE problem. Once you know the reason why you find yourself experiencing this world of LIMITATION, you know that you are here for one reason and one reason only: to overcome the ego. Want the greatest secret in this entire Universe? The Meaning of Life? I've got it. Seek and ye shall find......

[@muhannaddurubi1345]

If there's no self to then there will not be suffering

[@clarkkent3730]

ego stands for Etch God out

[@DavidS-dw1wv]

What should we do, to not be back seeking in 2yrs after this thing wears off?

[@rinarina5799]

Wow. Wow. Wow.

[@unsungtunes]

Rupert was leading beautifully, he might have touched the point as in how to go about seeing ego as an illusion. But the questioner with all due respect disrupted it. 🙏 it was his right.🙏 Anyways is there any specific session where he asusual puts his best efforts that pushes you to self contemplate to realise the ego as an illusion very much like snake in a rope.?

[@nourelhudazuraiki5400]

I’ve always wondered why the ego is a problem, isn’t it part of who we are. Like to keep my ego fulfilled up to a certain point is actually in a way fulfilling my desires, so when we love someone who doesn’t love us back they say it’s your ego who’s getting hurt and I don’t see this as a reason for not abandoning my ego to be able to stop the hurt it’s causing me because I do believe it is a part of what makes me who I am.

[@nourelhudazuraiki5400]

shaarad pandey yeah but then this is according to the standards you have put to accept what is part of you and what it isn’t. I’ve studied a lot about Buddhism and I think I struggled to accept Buddha’s idea about the non self it’s the same idea that Rupert addresses in his videos that of which you cannot find (in this case it’s the “I”). The Buddha believes that the self should not age and should be consistent over time and also it should have control over things and based on these standards non of your consciousness, ego etc.. can be the self. However, I’m still not convinced about choosing those standards in the first place.

[@rustyspieler]

I think hes saying preferably identifying with consciousness/awareness results in a quieting of ego/thoughts/hurt eventually and more fully because they are recognized as transient. Not suppressing or pushing back on ego and hurt, just not identifying with it as the real/profound/us. But i personally dont yet see how the goal of living in the now without thought isnt ego suppression and avoidance. I think he teaches any active suppression of thought or ego will fail because that effort is also thought and ego. Better to just recognize them for what they are, transient (somewhat devalue), wait for them to change, focus elsewhere. New, not sure

[@YaTut169]

It is not part of who we are. We are that which perceives the ego. How can that which is perceiving ego, be ego? It is impossible. Ego is what we believe our body-mind to be. Once we believe it is something, other than the veichle through which the universe is experiencing itself, we live through eyes of fear, doubt, delusion, anxiety, depression, separateness. Ego itself is merely a thought, it is coming and going, it is not true, it is not eternal, it is not our true nature. It is merely another phenomenon appearing within the consciousness that you are. You can't say that it is a "part" of you, because it is not, it appears within you, but it is not you or a part of you. When we mistake ourselves to be the ego, or when we mistake the ego to exist, we forget that in fact it is merely an appearance within consciousness, and we take it seriously, we try and protect it, we try and fulfill it. In truth, you see that the ego merely appears within consciousness, it is not real, so we don't take it seriously, we don't protect it because we do not identify as it, and we do not care for any phenomenon appearing within consciousness, and we don't try and fulfill it because we see that it is merely an appearance within consciousness, it is not an entity to be fulfilled, it is just a temporary idea which has no actual existence, therefore we do not try and fulfill it, we see that it is completely illusory and not to be taken as truth at all. We are that without which ego can't exist. We can exist without ego, pure consciousness can exist without ego, but ego can't appear without the consciousness in which it appears. The ego relies on the consciousness to be, the consciousness does not rely on the ego to be.

[@YaTut169]

@@shaaradpandey5546 Thoughts don't need to stop coming, they can come, most importantly you must not identify as these thoughts. There is no problem with thoughts appearing, the problem is when we identify ourselves as these thoughts, we believe we are the ones thinking them, and we believe they are the truth. Thoughts are not generated from the ego, they simply appear within consciousness. Ego itself is just a thought.

[@YaTut169]

@@shaaradpandey5546 Who cares about thoughtlessness? That is not important.

[@OYensen]

We are the "I's" of God. 😄

[@brandontodd3799]

Where are we loosing each other every where

[@meemaflowers9446]

Sounds like me my whole life. Defending myself. CPTSD at 12 years from a pedo priest. Memory just surfaced 3 years ago when I moved back to my hometown after 35 years and the local paper published the names of convicted pedo priests. I have gone from relative love to Absolute Love.

[@rainbowofboxes8021]

all of your pointings.... this is what Jesus was pointing at as well xD much love to you