A One Day War with Iran - Operation Praying Mantis, 1988 - Animated

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In the Persian Gulf during the Iran-Iraq War, the Tanker War reaches its climax. When the USS Samuel B. Roberts is hit by an Iranian mine, the US Navy is deployed to region in a show of force to deter Iranian military action against shipping. Tensions reach boiling point, and a one day naval shooting war between the US Navy and Iran ensues.
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[@victormoisesgalvan1596]

Thank you! You finally made a video on this event! Keep up the good work!!!!

[@MANC2311]

Just watched something about this, including interviews with the Captain of the Roberts. Didn't the Captain of one of the Iranian vessels have some crazy nickname?

[@Valorius]

Another awesome presentation, as usual.

[@victormoisesgalvan1596]

You should do the Battle of Mirbat.

[@delta1200]

You will have so many video opportunities in Ukraine now...

[@asd1234asd1234asd]

That soviet destoryer captain is just legendary. "Take picture for history"

[@thesaddestdude3575]

Yeah its kind of a hilarious response.

[@PaulJohnson-vn7eh]

@JZ's Best Friend maybe it was a knock off Polaroid.

[@jonsmith9527]

Pictures of American boats destroying American planes. The military industrial complex stealing from the American people

[@airplanemaniacgaming7877]

@@thesaddestdude3575 Even if you're helped and have western supplies, the moment you start going "Hurr durr we no like West" America will apparently drop all niceties and dropkick you in the balls hard enough that your pants go all red like a paintball went off in them.

[@uvbatman-lq8rq4lb3p]

You idiots you don't get it when he said "take picture for history" he meant I'll show these pictures when you accuse me of something

[@risenphoenixkai]

Langston: "Well, he shot at me." *singlehandedly sinks frigate*

[@noalear]

I like to think he kept quiet so no one would stop him.

[@raywhitehead730]

The bomb, went directly down the funnel!

[@SpamSucker]

“What are your intentions?” Well, I’m waiting for my harpoon to hit him!

[@michaellennon9427]

I know Bud Langston and worked with him for years. He is an incredible man, a pilot with rare skills and someone you are happy to have on your side of a fight. He's also one of the nicest people you'd ever want to meet. Such an incredible person.

[@Dynamo55b]

🎉😂😂😂😂

[@Assassn-ey6uq]

Imagine missing every shot on an American fighter craft, getting buzzed by it, then hearing "I'm gonna sink you in 5 minutes" That's too badass

[@brandonwilliams6221]

Makes me realize it’s no longer silly when aliens in movies clearly state their intention to kill. When you have the night to back it up, it really be just that simple.

[@pg955203]

Fighting someone thats several generations behind, wow so badass! Do you also feel like a badass when drop kicking toddlers?

[@kingmelo2528]

😂😂😂 real badass. I love it

[@THCLK]

@@pg955203 well the iranians begged for it^^ how does the saying go: play stupid games, win stupid prizes? all this couldve been prevented if the iranians didnt mine international waters^^ and lets be honest: the murricans dont care who you are... you touched their cheap oil, thats enough of a reason...

[@rogerodle8750]

"This is not going to end well for us" -- I am certain the Iranians were unhappy when they heard an American warship had struck one of their mines. They f'd around. They found out.

[@ralphjackson2518]

The most incredible part to me was glossed over: in spite of the engine room getting completely wrecked and the Keel broken, the USS Samuel B. Roberts was successfully repaired and returned to service 16th October 1989. She would remain in service until 2015.

[@M167A1]

The Perrys were tough little ships

[@gunsnrosesforever100]

Meh, tbh it's a boat, the US is gonna repair it because they can't afford to replace them everytime they break

[@ralphjackson2518]

@@M167A1 more like USN damage control and dockyards are obscene in general and Samuel B. Roberts was by all accounts a crack frigate that had received high acclaim from squadron leaders and USN instructors. The repairs themselves were kinda insane too, they literally cut out the old engine room and put in a new one.

[@crazysteve9390]

I think “glossed over” is little strong, the crew was credited with saving the ship. But I appreciate you adding the details of its return to service.

[@BlackHawkBallistic]

The US leads the world in damage control and has since WWII, very few nations can match us and most of our "peer" adversaries aren't close. Look at Russian DC and the complete joke it is and Chinas a knockoff of soviet doctrine and training

[@eamonnprunty]

I think it is important to note most of the tankers that transited the persian gulf at this time were registered under the US flag simply because the US congress wouldn’t permit US Navy warships to protect ships “belonging” to a different nation. So most ships in this area temporarily switched their flag to be escorted.

[@oliverwells8011]

That and it was done to tell the Iranians that if they attack another tanker that they'd get a full military response/war

[@raywhitehead730]

It was more then just switched flags! Us Navy persons were also on those tankers.

[@truthsRsung]

I think it's important to note WHY ships decide NOT to register their ships under the U.S. flag and enjoy their protection ALL the time. Why bother with human rights in one place if Corporations move their operations off U.S. soil, then cry for help?

[@killajive1]

@@truthsRsung you understand that not all oil companies are American correct, so that would be why they choose not to?

[@DavidManouchehri]

@@truthsRsung Because then they would have to follow US law, like paying minimum wage.

[@brucechmiel7964]

Regan-“I want a proportional response.” USN “Ice em!”

[@Museikage]

Someone knows a sparky tradesman of large size? 😂

[@Aredel]

A chubby electron man if you will

[@Ratkill9000]

Buh, the only reason America got involved was because Kuwait was selling oil on the cheap cheap and Iran committed the biggest sin of the 20th century, raising gas prices. Buh.

[@Aredel]

@@Ratkill9000 that was Desert Storm.

[@brucechmiel7964]

@@Ratkill9000 it’s a little more detail than that. Well, it is true that Kuwait was selling oil Ion the cheap cheap due to not being a CPAC member. They were also using their boats to deliver oil to Iran’s enemies. When I ran started sinking Kuwaiti oil tankers. That’s when the US got involved, but only the capacity of escorting and protecting Kuwaiti boats. Until the USS Samuel B. Roberts was struck by an Iranian mine. That is when shit hit the fan. What the Fat Electrician does not tell you is months of shit happened between those two events.

[@soup5344]

Imagine watching two destroyers airburst two rounds in front of you and being like "yeah, the AA gun will take care of em"

[@raywhitehead730]

They died, I was on that ship, and witnessed.

[@vito7428]

Those ZSU's definitely could've caused some chaos on those destroyers if this was an 80s action movie and the destroyer was sailing straight down some river for some reason but at that range? They'd have better luck swimming over and kindly asking them to stop shooting at their rig

[@fnapFNAP]

Revolutionary guard started after the revolution even today members are so patriotic it's not an option in their mind to back down against a threat to the nation imagine members back in the first decade of the revolution people Those martyrs are an example for all.

[@wyomingptt]

I mean yeah but they probably had no choice but to engage. They were probably afraid to just retreat without putting up a fight even if it had no legitimate odds of success.

[@josiahzabel8596]

@@fnapFNAP "martyr" still means "DEAD" The last time you were a world beating army was under The Sassanids...

[@ISAF_Ace]

I never knew a soviet ship was present during preying mantis. The battle also displays how carrier aircraft are essential in winning any me all engagement, the battle was decided by the intruders

[@michaeljohnson4258]

There were two of them in the Gulf area during this skirmish.

[@MrGunster]

they were just there to take photo for history as the captain said HAHAHA, i find his reply funny xD

[@nathaniellazo5912]

I had a fearful chuckle because just imagine if the captain hear its a non US warship and opened fire... that would have been a huge can of worms opened

[@dogger7762]

The Soviet captain is a legend lol

[@davidhoffman1278]

Usually they were intelligence ships that looked like Soviet fishing ships, but there wasn't much to pretend to fish for in that area so they went in with regular undisguised Soviet navy ships.

[@everettclaud9158]

President Regan: “You guys sank HOW MUCH of their navy?” The Navy: “Only like… half. Why, did you want us to sink all of them?”

[@nilsjonsson1133]

"I am carrying out my mission", breaks radio contact, goes 3-to-1 against superior warships. Something about that is terrifying in a way I can't describe.

[@josephastier7421]

Same with the guys who stayed behind to take on the US Navy with 20 mm anti aircraft guns. Everyone in that region was using the same cheap outdated Russian crap to fight their local wars like it was WW II. Saddam would do the same thing three years later. They had no idea how advanced our technology and tactics had become.

[@burgertanker7970]

Terrifyingly stupid, that's for sure

[@axel665]

Most soldiers would have done the same

[@APPLEPIE978]

His choices were probably die fighting, or being executed back home.

[@jys76]

@@axel665 not that much in reality

[@mindeloman]

Samuel B. Roberts was 21 years old when he was killed in action at the battle of Guadalcanal. he received the Navy Cross for his action. But his name has gone down in US Navy lore as one fighting against the odds. 3 US Navy ships have been named USS Samuel B. Roberts in large part due to the legacy of the fighting spirit of their respective crews. None more so than DE-413. Samuel B. Roberts is one of the most hallowed names in US Navy lore.

[@andie_pants]

I didn't know that. Wow... I give Samuel B. Roberts a hearty USAF _hoo-rah!_

[@mindeloman]

@@andie_pants - Read up on the "Battle Off Samar." One of the most lopsided victories in all of naval history. The book, "last stand of the tin can sailors" is a humbling read. I read it through tears. God bless the men of Taffy 3!!!

[@prabuddhabose9045]

@@mindeloman you are a man of culture! People like you keeps the flow of history continued throughout centuries.

[@AmericanIdiot7659]

I always name ships in games in honor of the Samuel B Roberts and the Reuben James

[@chronic2001n]

@@mindeloman I just ordered it. Thanks!

[@coreywindom7674]

Not gonna lie, slowly sailing towards a US Navy Ship and then saying “I’m carrying out my mission” after the US Ship tells you they are about to sink you, takes some Massive Balls. That shit was a suicide mission and he knew it.

[@chrischarla424]

I don't think there was a lack of bravery on either side during this operation -- at the end of the day the Iranian Navy was still desperately trying to get ships into the Gulf to engage despite the certainty that they were going to get rocked if the US hadn't decided to de-escalate. And the amount of bravery and chivalry it took the US commanders to give warnings and not just attack in 100% absolute life threatening situations is off the charts in my opinion.

[@mango4064]

Never under estimate the power of delusional belief in a religion that can give 71 virgins.

[@AshanBhatoa]

​@@mango4064Why do you assume that the individuals was acting on religious zeal alone?

[@123Voynich]

Nationalism is no better and no more deserving of praise. People shouldnt throw their lives away.

[@ronaldpatrias417]

@@123Voynich spotted the marxist rat

[@BikeThrottleOfficial]

Another skirmish I had no idea happened. These small cartoon battles are as good as any Hollywood production! 👏

[@jimmym3352]

If it was a Hollywood production, they would have had to insert an Latino bisexual female character with a disability for diversity sake.

[@navyseal1689]

Can you not drag Hollywood into everything. Nowadays Hollywood just failing

[@fan9775]

The difference between a work of passion and a profit motivated piece of propaganda

[@jsantana1980]

@@jimmym3352 kkkk you said all

[@Drakey_Fenix]

Hollywood is shit these days. Their days of glory are long gone by now.

[@alouisschafer7212]

I love how a random soviet ship appeared to simply have a look at things and document the war around them. Taking pictures "for history"... yeah im sure the Kremlin wanted to be up to date on a US Military Offensive.

[@smittywjmj]

It's entirely possible they were also trying to photograph the American ships and planes for intelligence purposes. No reason not to, if the US Navy is going to go fight, they aren't going to hide any new technologies they've developed, and the Soviets would want to see it.

[@deadendfriends1975]

" Document" sure

[@mushroomchrisn]

@@deadendfriends1975 What else do you think it was doing? Picking up scrap metal? It seems entirely likely to me that the USSR sent a warship to keep a keep a close eye and document a US naval operation.

[@deadendfriends1975]

@@mushroomchrisn I'd call it spying but that's me

[@PyroFTB]

@@deadendfriends1975 Spying would mean that they are observing in secret

[@toddgrant4268]

The Russians weren't just taking pictures for history they were trying to learn our capabilities. I was in the navy at that time. Both countries would try and take pictures of each other out at sea. The cold War was still going on, although nearing its end.

[@Motleydoll123]

Well, the Americans were there to send a message, not start a war for real. If the soviets saw just how quickly the us could dismantle even half of irans fleet, they would hopefully get the message to not do anything stupid for at least another 20 years or so. If the us ever went full weapons free and went all in then, they could have turned the Iraq-Iran war into iran just not existing as a country for the most part. I, as a civilian with no military background, look at things like this and it really does put into perspective just how little anyone could if America really decided to take the gloves off. This event was in the 80s… America’s armaments have only gotten better with time. The only way to ‘beat’ America in war is to hope that America leaves on its own, packs up its toys and heads back home. Because if America really wanted to destroy its enemies, they would be dead.

[@nissan300ztt]

The Russian Navy is a failure of a Navy. Just read up on the Russian 2nd Fleet. Massive Joke the Russian NAVY is.

[@scottiecurrie7927]

Hope their pictures turned our crystal clear then

[@TheCrazierz]

Thanks captain obvious.

[@ztyy8185]

No way!!!

[@Verminator4]

It's absolutely insane how much firepower those A6s were carrying

[@ozzy7763]

The A6 was absolute beast ! The Navy lost a huge amount of firepower when they retired the Intruders .

[@ExHyperion]

A-10 of the sea

[@JesseDishner]

I was thinking the same thing: dropped a 500 pound bomb, and then flew around to drop it's two 1000 pound bombs, then still had another 500 lb bomb... amazing.

[@JesseDishner]

@@ozzy7763 Plus they just looked so cool. I really like their design.

[@tatestrickland7956]

@@JesseDishner and the rumble when they were on the cat ready to launch was incredible - particularly with the EA-6B. Loudest bird on the deck during launch, for sure. AEAN VA-94.

[@94ohiostate]

I was a 20 year old Lance Corporal (USMC) on the USS Trenton in SAG Bravo that assaulted the Sasson platform. Thankyou for this excellent brief presentation of that day! I ended up in the Army Reserve later (4 tours Iraq and Afghanistan) and in an odd twist of fate I was in Iraq as Infantry E-7 on the recieving end of the Iranian missle strike in January, 2020. I believe I may be the only US military veteran who experienced combat twice with Iran?

[@hadiakbari1171]

Ayn-Al-Asad, right?

[@aceofspadesR]

The US federal government should’ve dealt with Iran years ago. Thank you for your service. I believe if we treated Iran like Iraq, it would’ve prevented a future war with Iran. A more radical Iran.

[@Linki8uu]

@@aceofspadesR that and a lot of us lives lost Iran is an incredibly mountainous country and would be very difficult and dangerous to attack through those mountains not saying it’s impossible but it would be difficult

[@rahjah6958]

@@K55365 as crude as you are… it does

[@K55365]

@@rahjah6958 The majority fled the base 🤣

[@KovertMailMan]

This really exemplified why the US military, especially the NAVY is the best in the world. The fact that they were so successful without needing to go scorched earth against the iranians also shows restraint in terms of searching for better solutions than kinetic conflict

[@tetraxis3011]

Yea. Granted, these Missile boats and Frigates were very new in Irans navy, and considering a revolution happened not that long ago, I doubt crew received proper training.

[@ScootsMcPoot]

The America haters, don't understand we try to minimize destruction. If America wanted to conquer you, we could. That's not what we want. We want to put people n charge to give us cheap resources. The haters also forget, we rebuilt Europe after ww2. We ensured there was a future there. People always look at us like bad guys, which sure, we love proxy wars. We love resources. But, we let you run your country with some guidelines. We don't just kill everyone

[@antonleimbach648]

The Damage Control parties on that frigate were excellent. The amount of training and leadership it takes to save a small ship like the Perry frigates with a huge hole in its bottom still amaze me.

[@Annonymous0283745]

The Perry frigates were tough as nails, just like the crew manning them.

[@IcanDriveIt]

The alternative was swimming lol

[@calumclarke2658]

American damage control parties are generally regarded as the best in the world and it’s been that way since ww2. Just look at the original enterprise CV-6 as the Japanese thought they sunk it multiple times over but it kept showing up time and time again.

[@thomaspavelko9412]

The crew of the Samuel B Roberts had won several awards for damage control, believed at the time they had the top award for damage control throughout the entire US Navy.

[@lancegigs9022]

Well Samuel B Roberts' Damage control party was the best in 3 or more consecutive years in naval exercises. This was their baptismal of fire.

[@TheMaristBoy]

Ever since the start of the war in Ukraine, I've realized just how much coordination, communication, and training the US military applies in its operations. It's more than just the firepower in my opinion.

[@atgimm2090]

The USA commits war crimes. Don't be so amazed at how amazing they are at killing women and children

[@nicholasmiller3872]

Drilled since day one of basic. Shoot, Move, and Communicate.

[@VynalDerp]

If firepower was all that mattered, Afghanistan would likely have been another post-soviet state lol. Tactics, command, intelligence, logistics, and more have been just as key to victory as firepower, and it's always been that way since pre-Roman Empire tines.

[@chaosXP3RT]

It's all propaganda. Russia will win. The USA is weak. It only works for money and greed. It is a Satanic society selling souls to the Devil

[@SamBrickell]

@@VynalDerp The US War in Afghanistan was an attempt to turn muslims into human beings and it failed miserably.

[@Rkitt8]

Thank you for creating this. I served on the USS Simpson from 2007-2011 and we were all very proud that we were only one of two ships still commissioned that had sunk an enemy vessel. The other being the USS Constitution. 🙏🏻

[@michaelusswisconsin6002]

USS Enterprise was still commissioned in the early 2000s.

[@Alcochaser]

I wondered for many many years why the US Navy didn't send one of the IOWA class on this operation. It wasn't until Drach interviewed the Iowa's captain until I figured out why. Iran would shut everything down and go to ground if one of these was around. So the US Navy had to use smaller ships only to attempt to lure the Iranian ships out

[@DERP_Squad]

That, and it's presence in the area would make it a very tempting target for the Iranians. The carriers were generally too far away to be a viable target, but if one of the Iowas was in theatre, it would likely have been deployed into the Persian Gulf and be in range of the Silkworm missiles, or anything else that the Russians or Chinese decided to supply to Iran for the purpose.

[@navyseal1689]

Dont forget the badass pilot who told the Iranian ship , he will sink them in 5 minutes lol

[@X.Y.Z.07]

During Operation Dessert Storm, USS Missouri failed to intercept 2 Silkworm missile. The Phalanx CIWS unable to locked on the targets.. She was saved by HMS Gloucester... So yeah, the modernised Iowa was not all that powerful on its own..

[@Excal500]

Something about a very angry ship with x9 16” guns MIGHT have something to do with that.

[@Alcochaser]

@@DERP_Squad The Iranians feared the Iowas as I said, they would just go to ground, and shut everything down if they detected the Iowa's gun search radar on. The Iowa's captain said as much during a recent interview.

[@TheOperationsRoom]

I've been looking into potential podcast ideas for the channel. I'd like to treat it as an outlet for interesting history topics that don't need animation/ cant be animated. I'm thinking topics within technology, politics, logistics, intelligence, bios, tactics, strategy, and all relating to videos that are released on the channel. For example, in support of the Desert Storm series, we might look at the life of General Norman Schwarzkopf, why the Abrams tank was so good vs the Iraqi tanks, desert logistics, Desert Shield, the Iraqi command and control structure, the political process that lead to war, maybe even interview some veterans. These "podcasts" would act as supplementary material to the videos being produced for the main channel. Clearly, this second channel/podcast idea wouldn't require animation effort, and so wouldn't affect The Operations Room release schedule. We could also release the voiceovers themselves as podcast episodes, as apparently there are a fair amount of you strange people out there who don't watch the animations but just listen to me drone on! What do you think?

[@su-25frogfoot74]

Hell yah

[@noalear]

Are you kidding!? This would be amazing! You must do this!

[@ImMrHibachi]

Sounds like a great idea - I would love some great history to listen to while I work. Last year a friend sent me a podcast where they detailed the history of Operation Mince Meat. It was a gripping account and made that work day a lot more enjoyable.

[@bobtank6318]

Yes Yes Yes

[@simonthompson9858]

Please do it please. Total no-brainer. And you dont drone on either! An excellent, measured delivery, gung-ho free, erudite and to the point.

[@matt9897]

The benefits of every member of the operation understanding the commander’s intent is written all over this. Superb work.

[@Just-Sven]

Us: we have a strange contact be ready with the harppons The soviet capitan : I just want a picture Us: wtf

[@chamonix4658]

soviet captain on his holiday

[@Dubanx]

To be fair, it was probably for intelligence and/or propaganda purposes and not tourism. That said, the US isn't going to blow up a non hostile Soviet ship over something like that.

[@johnbirmingham4083]

This is one of the naval battles that required your dutiful service to be recognized. An excellent presentation and now a great training tool. Thank you very much for putting this one together.

[@TheOperationsRoom]

Many thanks!

[@tinyyoutuber.2091]

@@TheOperationsRoom world super power attacking a nation already engaged in a war with their neighbours! 😂 What they call it? Might of America? Huh

[@brokenpotato438]

@@tinyyoutuber.2091 Shouldn't have been attacking neutral shipping vessels, then

[@donkthedankee8595]

@@brokenpotato438 Had you researched the war of tankers you would see it was Iraq which started the tanker war and which had harassed neutral tankers, not Iran.

[@rahjah6958]

@@donkthedankee8595 started?

[@michaellawsonspeaks]

I was a 20-year old cryptologist onboard the USS Wainwright CG-28 SAG-C and remember this so well. This is the best retelling of what happened on that day. I still have all my photos that I personally took that day

[@Vulpinaut]

I think the real motto of the US Navy is "fuck around and find out".

[@Abbeville_Kid]

Love it.

[@airplanemaniacgaming7877]

Iran: *Pokes the giant angry Blue Tuna named "US Navy"*

[@coreywindom7674]

It’s that “I wish a mother fucker would” mentality that our country has unfortunately lost. During the time when this happened we didn’t fuck around and the balance of Naval power on the planet was completely one-sided to the point that the USN could have taken on every other Navy on the Planet combined.

[@Dubanx]

The US literally has a stronger Navy than every other country in the world combined. "But Duban, Russia has as many ships as the US does" You know what that Navy conists of? A 25Kt nuclear battlecruiser that doesn't work, a barely functional 60Kt aircraft carrier that's moved by tug boat b/c its own engines don't work, a dozen 7.5-8Kt Destroyers, around twenty 5Kt landing ships, a dozen 2-5 ton frigates, a fair number of sub 1Kt corvettes, and a bunch of 20-100 ton landing craft. Their ships are tiny. You know what the US Navy consists of? Eleven 100Kt Supercarriers, Nine 45Kt Amphibious assault ships/Helicopter carriers, 14x 20-25Kt landing ships, Ten 15Kt landing ships, Ninety 10Kt Destroyers/Cruisers, and twenty 3.5Kt littoral combat ships. Yeah, Russia's Fleet size exists almost entirely for bragging rights. It's not impressive at all if you actually look at what it consists of.

[@bastage5932]

"I'm just here to take pictures" What an absolute madlad

[@anthonymolina7416]

I laughed at that that Soviet crew just watching this shit going on

[@Treblaine]

The EODs story is the one I want to hear, they defused and recovered live and armed mines intact when they could have any sort of anti-tamper triggers on them. That's incredible bravery which made a huge difference, without recovering mines intact you couldn't prove which side did it.

[@emergencyrapidresponseteam7181]

They did have Anti-Tampering devices. No one knows exactly how long it took to get the mines in Persian Gulf intact. The mine which hit Samuel was in a shipping lane. Violation of International Law.

[@Broomtwo]

The US Navy definitely didn't mess around back then. A very impressive and rare display of modern naval combat.

[@joevicmeneses8918]

because the Nat'l command had balls of steel.

[@Seadog..11]

You meant Ronald Reagan didn't mess around

[@Broomtwo]

@@Seadog..11 yes, essentially

[@outlawfly664]

@@Broomtwo Yeah it's quite easy to not mess around at that particular time.

[@CrayonEater255]

Ronald had some balls unlike Joe

[@Junior-nt5nr]

Really demonstrates the superiority of American military technology/industry and the effect such a huge gap has.

[@komisossoutsidi5801]

All courtesy of the American tax payers

[@Junior-nt5nr]

@@komisossoutsidi5801 If it’s protecting our shipping lanes, then I’d say the taxpayers are getting their money’s worth. At least in this case.

[@xwarped83]

@@Junior-nt5nr “At least in this case” I agree, but how much more is wasted and could be used on other things.

[@ares7181]

@@xwarped83 some amount is gonna be wasted no matter where it goes. Not all social programs are successful either

[@domthedonkey69420]

@@xwarped83 a common misconception is that military spending is just a waste. In reality, militaries are giant Welfare programs that also have the benefit of having an army to protect their interests. For example, a shipyard provides good paying union jobs for hundreds to thousands of workers. If you took them away entire towns would turn into a West Virginia coal town Military workers are well paid and have pensions and other benefits. Military technology bleeds into civillian life.

[@RafaelRasmussen]

It's absolutely insane how much firepower those A6s were carrying. Langston: "Well, he shot at me." singlehandedly sinks frigate.

[@bobtank6318]

Another excellent video on the only major US Navy surface engagement featuring anti-ship missiles. Just a small correction: the Standard anti-ship missile and the Standard AA missile you mentioned are the same missile. It is primarily an anti-air missile, but can be used in an anti-ship role.

[@JD96893]

wut? Last i checked the harpoon is an anti ship missile, although there is a variant for land targets.

[@bobtank6318]

@@JD96893 He talks about a “Standard” anti-ship missile before that. That’s the one I’m referring too. Standard is the name of the missile.

[@grandayatollah5655]

@@JD96893 standard is a SAM, that can be used as an anti ship missile

[@Rob_F8F]

@@JD96893 Harpoon is a dedicated anti-ship missile.. Standard is primarily an anti-air missile with a secondary anti-surface capability.

[@douglaslain5962]

TIL You could use a Standard missile in an anti-ship capacity. Aptly named.

[@crazysteve9390]

I had just gotten out of the military one month before this happened, and I had been in the Mideast in 85 and 86. I was so into enjoying civilian life that this event went right over my head at the time. Really appreciate this retrospective. Excellent work.

[@richperez9129]

Great video, my good buddy was aboard the USS Simpson during this operation, he was serving as a gunner and saw action. He told me bits and pieces but not this detailed, he would have loved this video, sadly he passed a few years ago. He is missed!

[@richcook2007]

Fair winds and following seas.

[@richperez9129]

@@alienrocketscienceshared8454 His name was Jeffrey Chilton, one of the most stand up and nicest persons that I've come across.

[@TURKEYpilot101]

I have never heard of this until now. Steve this is so fascinate. This series is amazing and keep up the hard work! You really are doing a damn good job.

[@johnrust592]

I was in high school when this happened. All I remember was a couple of news reports about some militarized oil platforms being shelled. I did not know about all the aerial attacks and ship-to-ship engagements, and certainly had no idea a Soviet warship was in the area. Like they said toward the end of the video, they likely kept all that stuff on the down low at the time to de-escalate tensions.

[@akashlevyismyhero]

Lmao that A-6 intruder just rolled through to check out what was up and then just said screw it and took out the Iranian flagship pretty much all by itself. Pretty embarrassing day for Iran

[@raywhitehead730]

Actually, the A6 had leave to attack if attacked, ROE. The A6 was fired on.

[@conceptmania8436]

Well Iran was under sanction at the end of war with Iraq and 40 other countries whom supplied Iraq with modern weapons while Iran could not even buy barbwire . The stage of Iran Iraq war was bigger than world war 2 . And as I mentioned 40 other nations were involved in war with Iran. Countries like US , Germany, France, China, Russia, Indonesia, Switzerland, Saudi Arabia , Australia, Italia , Israel and 30 plus more countries that were directly or side supporting Iraq with money or weapons and piolets to fly for Iraqi Air Force. What the cartoon failed to mention is that Iranian Commercial Air liner was shot down by an American war ship be in Persian gulf. Which was done purposely to descallate the war in Persian gulf. Straight forward some 34 years has past since the tanker wars in the Persian Gulf . Iran is strong Force in the region and the World and Boone can deny this fact . Today no one dares to even sail in the Persian Gulf with out permission . Point is glutting about a war that happened over 3 decades ago will only bringback reminders of those days and could escalte to more hatred toward each other . Iran is not a bully the area is called PERSIAN GULF it belongs to Iran . Iran's been there for some estimate over 10000 years. It's a civilization of many captured and races of our world . Altimathly no country or a coalition of countries can't win against this civilization it is impossible . If you don't believe me check out the past 10 years whoever nation joins Iran network becomes a Force to reckon with and whomever goes against Iran will fail at it's attempts.

[@THECREATOR49Steam]

@@conceptmania8436 cope

[@charlienash1050]

@@THECREATOR49Steam pretty childish of you to reply with that after he gave a detailed summery

[@THECREATOR49Steam]

@@charlienash1050 his "summary" was a bunch of lazy loser's excuses and copium. it's what it deserved.

[@ohhshiii4518]

Iran: That's me, you're probably wondering how I got here..again.

[@natelav534]

Imagine being buzzed by the plane you thought was gonna blow you up. Instead he flies so close you can see him. A simple "we found you"

[@derekrohan9619]

I could watch these for hours. Thank you for your hard work.

[@TheOperationsRoom]

Glad you like them!

[@lairdcummings9092]

The pucker factor as the intruder's buzzed the Sahand must have been insane.

[@ddegn]

Having anti-aircraft fire pass overhead must have been intense. I wonder if the pilots knew the guns couldn't be pointed down.

[@MM22966]

I knew about this, but I had no idea all the major action happened in a single day. Thanks! I love these small/niche/unknown modern conflicts. (You do get tired of seeing WW2 documentaries...)

[@theus663]

I like how the Russians are just there taking pictures and enjoying the sea.

[@RW77777777]

I thought they were trolling with the express purpose of being attacked to begin self-defense protocols; their explanation seemed iffy

[@lennyjay8390]

@@RW77777777 I doubt that. Why risk nuclear war for the chance to hit a US ship out of spite? Taking photographic evidence of a US attack on the other hand is valuable intel.

[@PSL416]

Like an irl Easter egg that just randomly appears

[@lightwalker222]

@@RW77777777 nah, it's standard for neutral navies to make a point of showing up in contested international waters. On large scale operations it's called a "freedom of navigation" exercise, to reinforce the point that the warring nations should not attack any neutral ships, civilian or military, which might be nearby.

[@specialopssoldier1]

they were taking picture because they were spying lets be real here

[@johngalt3568]

Great job of summarizing a little known event which had historic consequences. You always evoke the right amount of tension and visualization.

[@acebubbles5023]

I love US warnings, “Id leave we’re about to sink you”😂

[@Bootneck-RMC]

The Operations Room uploads a new video, it has to be watched. What more can I say? other than, superb video as per usual. 👍

[@TheOperationsRoom]

Thanks again!

[@iamarizonaball2642]

@@TheOperationsRoompraying mantis II

[@joelbashore5658]

I was the corpsman with B Co 1/2 assault group from the Trenton who landed on Sassan. The ZSUs also fired on my Huey and the two 46s with us. I'd never gone straight down in a helicopter before. I think that scared me more than being shot at by the 23mms!

[@MrAwsomenoob]

Was there still any kind of resistance after you landed?

[@lewisgann280]

Oorah corpsman always get a beer on me when I find them in the wild. You’ve got one hell of unique story there Joel. Take care!

[@navyseal1689]

Lol, "im going to sink you in 5 minutes". Badass pilot moment

[@DecidedlyNinja]

It's spooky to see real wars that are more one-sided than most alien invasion stories.

[@smittywjmj]

Any good military commander in history will tell you that you don't attack unless you're already sure you're going to win.

[@natowaveenjoyer9862]

@@moistcurtains Putin was absolutely sure he’d get a sequel to Crimea 2014 though.

[@z54964380]

@@moistcurtains Vdv, they shot down our jet.

[@theq4602]

Any alien ship capable of near light speed travel has enough energy on board to sterilize the earth before it even reaches us.

[@Dubanx]

@@smittywjmj It's a shame Russia doesn't have too many of those, lol.

[@Iggy481]

“And explodes harmlessly in the water” * a whole generation of fish turned into soup *

[@jackremington8888]

Marvelous video, Operatoons Room. Keep up the good work. The Americans have showed the Iranians what they deserved.

[@tinyyoutuber.2091]

America always invade weak nations, they can't invade Iran, it's not Iraq, America doesn't have balls, also remember what happened to U.S. in Afghanistan?

[@antihypocrites5086]

Yes USA showed their bully nature and extremely low morality and fascism attitude.

[@fizkallnyeilsem]

Damn right, Thats what they get for mining international shipping lanes, all sailors and lives lost because if silly sand imp rivalry that not even their own people asked for

[@TravelsoftheCat]

What a surprise. None of the Chinese missiles worked.

[@my11badkids78]

I must say I just stumbled across this channel. After 1 video I am hooked. I am a fan of military/history videos and its like this is everything I ever wanted. Sometimes on other channels you get a cool little map here or there momentarily sort of showing Troop movements. This is like being in a war room!

[@ArizonaAstraLLC]

This was the best Friday present about one of my favorite parts of military aviation history. I comment like once every 5 years, but I just had to say thank you to this channel for this.

[@BetterOnichThanSorry]

The US helicopter lost with it's two crewmen was not an A-6 Little Bird, but an AH-1T Cobra that likely went down trying to avoid hostile fire from Abu Musa island. From 'America's First Clash with Iran: The Tanker War, 1987-88' by Lee Allen Zatarain, "Two of the Marine AH-1T Cobra gunships on the Trenton had lifted off from that ship around 6:00 P.M. to deploy to USS Wainwright. The Cobras would be used to visually identify potentially hostile contacts in the area. By around 8:30 P.M., the helicopters were preparing to secure for the day. One of them, “Warrior 1-1” had already landed on the Wainwright and was being towed off the helicopter landing spot. “Warrior 1-2” was still in the air when it got a call from the Wainwright’s Combat Information Center to check out a contact some 18 miles to the east. The commander of Surface Action Group “Delta” believed the ship was the Larak-hull number 240T. Army TF-160 SEABATS on the Jack Williams were also sent to investigate. Vectored by radar on the Wainwright, “Warrior 1-2” closed on the ship and visually identified it as an Iranian Hengham-class LST. There were a lot of other ships in the area and the Iranian LST may have been pulling alongside freighters to shield itself against possible American attack. The Cobra reported being challenged by the ship at about 8:50 P.M. and then reported that it had been “locked-up” by a fire control radar. Radio communication was lost and the copter disappeared from the Wainwright’s radar. The Army MH-60 had been flying in the same area at the time, and the crew chief had started yelling, “Missile! Missile! Missile!” as what looked like a small surface-to-air missile streaked past the helicopter’s tail. The MH-60 called the Wainwright to ask if they had fired a missile. They had not. By the time the SEABATS based on the Jack Williams arrived, the Iranian ship was gone. An immediate and extensive search was begun for the helicopter and its crew: Marine Captains Kenneth Hill and Stephen Leslie. The commander of Surface Action Group “Delta” initiated a Search and Rescue (SAR) plan for the missing helicopter. Air and sea searchers could find no wreckage or survivors." I accidentally deleted my first comment on this, in case anyone has deja vu.

[@dorlonelliott9368]

The LST was the Lavan and it was credited with causing the loss of the Cobra. Also the Joshan was not coming from Bandar Abass - it was enr BA from Bushehr in the north.... They also left out the F4 and P3 that reacted from BA and were engaged damaging the F4. And they were not magnetic mines - they were M08 mored contact mines. USN (Ret) assigned CMEF/CJTFME I&W watch Sep87-Sep88.

[@DFord-eo5ud]

The Cobra pilot's name was Capt Leslie (USMC). Big dude with a mustache who like to smoke cigars. Cool dude. Semper Fi!

[@richardwoodford3365]

RiP Warrior 1-2: Captain Hill & Captain Leslie were found & recovered a few weeks later. No apparent hostile fire damage to the Sea Cobra.

[@splice7224]

Lmao the last Iranian ship turned into a training exercise 💀

[@idesofmarch3744]

I remember when this happened. The US media was giving the US Navy grief for giving warnings before attacking those platforms.

[@francisbusa1074]

What would they know about humanitarian military restraint? They obviously never really participated in combat where human lives were taken. Adm. Crowe showed them how it's done. War is about winning, not necessarily killing as many of the enemy as possible.

[@CactoTortoise]

Point taken, dont mess with A6 Intruders or the Samuel B. Just be there to "Take picture for history"

[@likydsplit8483]

Reagan was a very effective communicator.

[@CrayonEater255]

@@eegles lol no

[@justicar2747]

This whole operation is the definition of fuck around and find out.

[@rebelgaming1.5.14]

Recently, one of Iran's newer Frigates capsized and sank in port. This is the 4th Iranian vessel that has sank since 2018. Their ships themselves are so afraid of being proportionalized they'll sink themselves to stop Iran from doing dumb shit at sea.

[@chrismodini7225]

Another great video. Some of these conflicts I had no idea ever occurred, but you bring it to life so easily and effortlessly. Thanks for the great content as always!

[@CDSAfghan]

I can't imagine what hell it was to be on those Iranian ships. "I'm doing my duty" knowing full well you're going to certain death.

[@alexroselle]

I think any officer in the post-Islamic Revolution Iranian military would have been enough of a true believer to believe he was awaited in Paradise and less afraid to die. Though I’m less sure the common sailors he took with him felt the same way.

[@coreywindom7674]

I mean, you gotta fight back

[@TrailsTrailsTrails]

"Hey guys, lets de-escalate" Everyone: "O...kay. Let me just get rid of my munitions before I come back"

[@airplanemaniacgaming7877]

Better to put em to good use and come back without any pesky explosives on the plane than to jettison them off into the sea where some pesky seal could sneak em off to some undesirables, or even try to land on the carriers while still loaded down with the weaponry! (That final one is THE BIGGEST nono in Naval Air Arms.)

[@batman4y2k]

"I'm going to sink you in 5 minutes.

[@iansum1268]

last time I was this early Iran was still ruled by the Shah

[@MauriceLeviejr]

Shah an Shah. King of kings

[@jamesjarrettt3995]

I thought he said Shaft.

[@guaporeturns9472]

Which actually meant “ruled by the US”

[@natowaveenjoyer9862]

@@guaporeturns9472 Does anyone have agency to you leftists?

[@guaporeturns9472]

@@natowaveenjoyer9862 so reiterating the well known fact that the Shah was put in place by a coup mostly backed by the US and Britain indicates my political leanings? 😂 Stay in school kid.. you aren’t smart enough to be on your own yet.🤣 Education is important.

[@YoursUntruly]

You forgot to mention they were also bombing and sinking civilian transport and fishing vessels along side those oil tankers. That’s why the US was escorting them when they hit the mine.

[@edwinhernandez3854]

Proud to say that I served aboard Sammy b as we called it during 1987 to 1991 I was there April 14 1988 No Higher Honor our captain just passed this past week August 3 2022 It was an honor to Have served under his leadership NHH

[@1917Enfield]

I was aboard the U.S.S. Merrill when this happened. It was an exciting time.

[@kerrygibbs8198]

You did a great job telling this story. Thank You!

[@MrHws5mp]

I don't think it was SA-2s that the Iranian frigate fired at the US aircraft: that's a land-based SAM and it's huge. Did you perhaps mean SA-7s? The frigates in question were British-built and originally carried Seacat SAMs, though it's not clear if they were still operational by 1988.

[@nottherealpaulsmith]

The SA-2 did have two naval variants, but i highly doubt any Iranian ships involved were large enough to handle them. It was probably an Osa system, i imagine that was the heaviest non-shoulderfired system the Iranians could mount on their vessels.

[@grandayatollah5655]

@@nottherealpaulsmith Iran doesn't operate Osa. Only SAMs present on Iranian ships at the time were MANPADs and seacat (they have the Mehrab now)

[@MrHws5mp]

@@nottherealpaulsmith Yes, the naval SA-2 was only fitted on one modified Sverdlov class cruiser IIRC and it didn't work well there.

[@dorlonelliott9368]

SM-1s - they were fitted with 5 on a pedistal launcher aft.

[@MrHws5mp]

@@dorlonelliott9368 No I think the 5-round pedestal launcher was for Italian Sistel Sea-Killer anti-ship missiles (weird to have SSMs on a trainable launcher like that, but then it was a weird system all around..). They also had some WWII-era ex-USN destroyers and I think some of those were fitted with Standard ARMs in box launchers: the USN adopted it in a limited way as an anti-ship missile due to delays in getting Harpoon into service.

[@LOLNestor]

Outstanding presentation as always, and thank you for the knowledge. Keep up the great work brother!🤙🏽

[@TheOperationsRoom]

Much appreciated

[@MaksPekalski]

Noone gonna mention how Engler's Bombardier dropped a 500lbs bomb down the fucking smokestack of a ship in a dive bombing?

[@mostdefinitelynotadurian]

Man imagine if the captain didn't identify the russian warship, the amount of tension between the two sides would've skyrocketed

[@lohrtom]

I did two tours in the Persian Gulf on a DDG during the Tanker Wars. The ROE were way too constraining. It’s a wonder we didn’t lose numerous aircraft and ships because of it.

[@bosshog8844]

It's easy to understand why Iran calls the US the great satan, reading comments like yours. You're a monster.

[@airplanemaniacgaming7877]

It was either that, or risk international backlash. Would YOU want to be the one on the global stage having to explain why it turns out that the ship sunk was just an actual civvie boat?

[@lohrtom]

@@airplanemaniacgaming7877 not certain how we would have sunk a civilian boat. Military ships are pretty easy to identify from their electronic signature.

[@airplanemaniacgaming7877]

@@lohrtom And wouldn't an airliner be different from a fighter jet?

[@lohrtom]

@@airplanemaniacgaming7877 depends. A fighter could easily be mistaken for an airliner if it wanted to.

[@pooltableportal]

Just found this channel after hearing about Operation Praying Mantis for the first time. I like how you do them and visually explain the operation. Nice work.

[@Jude3e]

Every U.S. military enthusiast is creaming their pants while watching this video.

[@JohnSmith-oe5rx]

I remember the days when we Americans didn’t take blackmail from the theoracies,.. those were the days.,..

[@capt2be]

Always so interesting. Another gripping success...well done, Operations Room.

[@DJF1985]

When this happened I was out on Okinawa, we heard about a little skirmish in the Persian Gulf. I had no idea it was this extensive . Thank you

[@tkskagen]

Sadly I barely remember this "confrontation" as I was in 8th grade at the time. Thank you for sharing this information greatly!👍

[@richardw2566]

Thank you, sir. Well researched and superbly presented as usual. The best military history channel on you tube.

[@benjaminroberson1967]

My dad served on the USS Joseph Strauss. He was in the the machine room. I didn't know most of his ship's involvement or the extent.

[@b.elzebub9252]

It's always fascinating to see the oddly chivalrous proceedings of these types of naval engagements. The US ships extending their deadline, holding fire to give the Iranians more like to evacuate the oil-platform. Then missing on purpose to convince the last occupants to leave without harming them. The US Task force sending three separate warnings to the Joshan before finally obliterating her only after coming under fire itself.

[@coreywindom7674]

It has to be demoralizing for Iran though, knowing they are so out matched that we caused as much damage as we did while going out of our way to avoid killing as many people as possible.

[@DenDodde]

I'm not sure i would call it so much chivalrous as economical. Why waste munitions if you don't have to? Not to mention the added risk you take by aggressing.

[@CaffeinePanda]

They were also attempting to carry out a "proportional strike." The mining didn't kill any Americans, so carrying out an attack with ample opportunity for defenders to clear out or disengage gave some proportionality to it. The point of the attack was to deter Iranian hostility, not exacerbate it, hence the unease among commanders when the engagement started expanding to involve more ships. If you kill a bunch of people in cold blood, it's a surefire way to make things worse. So while Iran suffered embarrassment and military deaths, they couldn't say they weren't given opportunities and weren't legitimate engagements. It's also why this is ultimately a historical footnote and not another Gulf of Tonkin.

[@owarida6241]

@@CaffeinePanda well they fucked an American ship... and America love their ships... So yeah nothing good happens to those that fucked with American ship.

[@CaffeinePanda]

@@owarida6241 Depends on circumstances. Israel attacked the USS Liberty during the Six Day War and got off with only paying financial compensation.

[@jamesbednar8625]

Awesome video!!! Was stationed in West Germany while in US Army during this event. Brought back memories!! An EXCELLENT book to read about this time frame is: "Tanker War: Americ'a First Conflict with Iran 1987-1988" by Lee Allen Zatarain. Book goes into depth covering just about everything mentioned in this video to include the downing of that Iranian airliner by an American cruiser.

[@Double_D__]

Iran really looked at Japan getting their entire Navy clapped over the course of five years and said: "RIP to you, but I'm different." 💀

[@danielsummey4144]

I’ve wanted this video for YEARS. Operation Praying Mantis is one of my favorite operations

[@willie3528]

My brother was on this ship. I remember me living in New Jersey and how our family reacted once we found out what happened. Thank god he was not injured.

[@Phantom-dm9fz]

The jet pilot to the Iran warship: I’m going to sink you now

[@lordtherapeutics]

Superb animation and really quite thrilling to watch. I must confess I had never heard of this battle!

[@slammedc2003]

When the United States Navy is allowed to operate with a more offensive Rules Of Engagement, we are an absolutely devastating force. The Global War On Terrorism allowed us to conduct anti piracy operations with impunity as they are considered terrorists. However, dealing with other hostile country navies was still a pain in the ass overall and the amount of politics that go into all that is ridiculous. It still amazes me how much the general public is "in the dark" with daily United States Navy enforcement of the global sea lanes.

[@tetraxis3011]

And yet you failed in Afghanistan…..

[@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69]

@@tetraxis3011 Afghanistan is a landlocked nation in Asia, which has absolutely nothing to do with the Navy. You'll also find that the United States and her Coalition partners dispatched the Taliban and al-Qaeda quite quickly in the opening months of 2002, with the government completely collapsing as the Taliban retreated into the bordering mountains of Pakistan, where the spent the next 20 years while the US occupied the country. It wasn't until security of the nation was handed over to the Afghan National Army and National Police that the country fell. It wasn't like the Taliban defeated the United States. They couldn't capture Kabul for 20 years while the United States occupied the country. Please try to think before you speak, it'll save others from having to correct you.

[@tetraxis3011]

@@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69 The US lost, there is no way around it, you failed to establish a proper government and failed to eradicate te Taliban. You failed.

[@DirtyMikeandTheBoys69]

@@tetraxis3011 we had an established government for more than 20 years my guy. As for the Taliban, the original Taliban was long dead. Many of the younger Taliban aren't even from Afghanistan, but Pakistan and elsewhere. Unless you're advocating genocide or the invasion of every neighboring country outside of Afghanistan, you'll never "destroy" the Taliban. You're not very intelligent, and your elementary school thought process shows. Where are you from again?

[@slammedc2003]

@@tetraxis3011 Heh, you have no idea what you are talking about. First off, the United States Military absolutely squashed ISIS in Afghanistan and we also all but dismantled the Taliban leadership structure and then we rebuilt their structure so they could function more responsibly. Second, we only "failed" when we decided to stick around too long and adjusted our ROE to a more "hearts and minds" focus trying to rebuild the infrastructure that the old Taliban regime had all but destroyed. Finally, I am more than satisfied with what we accomplished in Afghanistan for the civilians over there even if we did stay in country for about 7-10 yrs too long. I just hope they continue to build on what we taught them and don't regress.

[@Oldmandoom95]

This is the naval equivalent of "Fuck around and find out"

[@fieryweasel]

"The Sirri platform is pounded by naval gunfire." - That's my reaction to iPhones, too.

[@jamesscalzo3033]

Loved the video @The Operations Room! Can't wait for the next video guys! Love seeing the A-6E Intruders and A-7E Corsair II's in action! Also, The Samuel B. Roberts is one of about 16(?) Oliver Hazard Perry-class Guided Missile Frigates still in Mothballs. President Trump was looking into Reactivating some of these Ships in line with his 600-Fleet Navy Program, but the Reports found that it would be Too Costly to Refurb and Reactivate them. So now we've got the 3 Ship Constitution-class Frigates being built to replace them.

[@pjoneal12]

Comparing the hit:miss ratios of the opposing forces is incredible.

[@CasualKillZz]

I love how all aircraft and warships are always polite about basically saying “leave or I will fuck your shit up” 😂

[@TM-ne9ig]

I was serving on board USS Enterprise (CVN-65) during this conflict and remember hearing the "Launch the War at Sea Strike" announcement over the 1MC right after I had gotten off watch in 4MMR. I was unaware of all the other details until watching this video. Thanks for posting the video.

[@richardhoffman3827]

I was right there with you up in DC Central.

[@peggygillen634]

I was on the Big E eating when the announcement was made. The Marine detachment onboard went total beast mode. Scary day it was. But heh, we did get the JMUC ribbon.

[@andyair6969]

I was with you in battle group Foxtrot on board USS Truxtun-CGN35.

[@dzilen]

So grateful for this bit of forgotten history! It seems like this one day action hastened the end of the war between Iran and Iraq and ultimately saved thousands of lives.

[@virus5600]

Great video as usual! Definitely laughed at the touring soviets taking pictures for history 😆 Now, attempt 1 of requesting the Battle of Yultong during the Korean war :>

[@matthewhosner3225]

My late father was on the wainwright....rip pops