A Pair Of Bose S1 Pros With The Lightest Weight Subwoofer - PreSonus Eris 8 All Battery powered PA

Bose S1 Pro $700/Pair $1,400
PreSonus Eris 8 $200
GrantMaya External Battery $180 www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07..." to RCA splitter cable $25 www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-spl... Total: $1,800
For $1,900 I would get a Bose Pro16! But it wouldn't be light or battery powered.
I thought the Bose B1 from the L1M2 was small and light, this is even smaller and lighter and performs like a REAL subwoofer! I always saw the B1 as a mid bass module which was great for acoustic guitarists only.
www.amazon.com/PreSonus-Eris-...
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Cable set up:
From S1 Pro you need a 1/4" TS cable to RCA male.www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09...
plug splitter cable into single RCA cable. Dual RCA of splitter into right/left inputs of sub.www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
Turn phone/source volume to max. Adjust S1 Pro volume to loudest you would play. Play a song on phone, turning down volume on phone until level desired. Bring up sub volume to blend with S1 Pro. At 12:00-1:00 on sub, volume should be strong.
Check out my first video introducing the PreSonus 8: • First Time! Bose S1 Pr...

[@richroggio]

that was a great video Bill. very good setup and the sound was excellent. that sub sounds wonderful for the price and of course I love my 2 S1pros in stereo.

[@merv307]

Thanks for all your amazing videos, Do you have a video on the S1pro + and the sub1?

[@paulhallion8203]

Hi Bill, thanks for the great videos! You inspired me to get a sub8 to pair with my s1pros for a battery-powered camping/beach setup. As much as bluetooth is convenient I don't like the sound quality so I'm running the s1 pros through the sub8 outputs using TRS cables and also have the sub8's high pass filter on to cut off anything below 80hz going to the s1pros with the source coming from my phone going through a Cambridge DAC magic100 and a passive SyS preamp for volume control (both i found 2nd hand for cheap). I can report the setup is great and the sound quality is much improved vs bluetooth however I got some electrical power interference coming through the sub outs to the s1pros (which is probably from the inverter on the riverpro) so I've just bought a portable power conditioner to hopefully remedy the issue. Currently tossing up if I buy another sub8 to run dual sub8's in stereo or just bite the bullet and get a bose sub1.. a tough decision. How has your setup been going since this vid and changes? Cheers Paul

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

That's an easy recommendation! Spend the extra $$$ and get the Bose Sub1. Eris 8 is great for medium to low volume to add the missing low end frequencies. I mainly use the Eris 8 when I need the lightest weight sub to carry around the house. Funny you should ask because just yesterday playing through a mixer at about 90dB some heavy bass content, the Eris 8 was bottoming out. Something you would not easily hear but at those volumes it will definitely shorten the life span of the sub. 80dB and under sounds great. A little disappointed but this Studio Sub isn't made for live sound volumes. Sub1 can play MUCH louder before bottoming out, especially outside. Maybe 3-4 times louder! Also Sub1 is tuned like all other live sound subs at 40Hz which really kicks compared to a studio sub that goes down to low 30Hz cleanly. Adding a second Eris 8 will only give you maybe 2dB gain. A waste of money:(

[@mikomon309]

Great job, mate! Thanks for sharing.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Thanks for your feedback!

[@MontyDeane]

Hey thanks for this. I am soaking up any info I can get related to this type setup. I have been using the original S1 for small solo gigs. I play backing tracks, play my guitar, and sing. I recently purchased the S1 Pro+, and was thinking of using original as monitor or even a second S1 for bigger stereo sound? But I noticed the lower freqs are just not there. Im not doing any kind of dance music, or heavy bass stuff. Maybe small venues. 20/30 people, Indoor/Outdoor. Do you think that would cover my requirements? I know its better to get the sub, but I am cramped for space, and want a small footprint when gigging. Love the S1Pro+ as I can go wireless with my mic and guitar and still use my effects board through the S1Pro +. Naturally my goal is to go as streamlined, light and wireless as possible.Thanks again!

[@CalvinKleinManzano]

i got the same setup bro, two bose S1 pro and 8 inc pioneer subwooper. i love how it sounds and very compact. greetings from las vegas nevada.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Almost any name brand subwoofer will add the missing low end to the S1Pros. Can't get any more compact then this for full range sound at 100db!

[@CalvinKleinManzano]

@@WWeiss-nv5vz can you review the new GEMINI GPSS-650 thank you brod. more power to your channel.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

@@CalvinKleinManzano I don't have the Gemini and don't plan on getting it, but for $300 the Specs look really good! I have too many speakers :)

[@CalvinKleinManzano]

@@WWeiss-nv5vz sell some of your previous speakers so that you can buy newer and review it.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

@@CalvinKleinManzano I don't buy speakers to review. All the speakers I bought were for my own actual use. At this time there is not one speaker I need or want. When the Bose S1 Pro replacement comes out I will probably get that.

[@IAmKAZMO]

This was WHAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR! (Although I have just 2 of the pro+)

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

This little sub will add a lot of missing low end from the S1Pros. Just be aware sub volume max is about 90dB, where the S1Pro pair can reach 103dB.

[@IAmKAZMO]

I just recieved the $149.⁰⁰ bluetooth version and paired it with just one of the Pro Plus ... Almost perfect compliment although the pro+ already reaches below 220hz it's a fulfilling dynamic. The plus is considerably louder than first especially after the latest update... but I couldn't imagine fully or foolishly attempting to compete with it's volume in any way... I still may end up getting a PA sub but This is a wonderful little (Light weight) powerhouse audio system you've assembled for us. You're a gentleman and a Scholar, Thank you, good Sir.🫡

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Thank you for the compliment! Save your $$$ and get the Bose Sub1, next level performance!@@IAmKAZMO

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Of course putting the S1Pros up on stands would be best but in this video I was trying to show the lightest most portable way to go.

[@shaneberckman]

This is a really nice setup. It has great 🔊 bass. My still favorite setup is my 2 s1pros and Sub1 especially when I go from a mixer to the sub and out to the s1pros wit the sub using the crossover in the sub. But to simplify things you have an amazing setup! Great work!

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Thanks. I think we use the same little mixer, the Yamaha MG06xu. The mixer gives a noticeable difference in headroom. I run the sub from the headphone out. I know I lose some max volume/clarity compared to going from the mixer to the sub. If I need more volume I go to another speaker. I like being able to dial in the sub gain independently from the top. Referred to running the sub Aux out. Many DJ's go that route. Give it a try if you've never done it.

[@shaneberckman]

@W. Weiss that's how I use the Dimondboxx Sub when I use a mixer because I agree that a great way to control the bass. I tried that after you mentioned it in one of your videos. LOL and yes I love that little yamaha mixer.

[@antithesis2211]

What would be the optimum placement for two of those speakers, parallel or diagonally? Thank you!

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

@@antithesis2211 S1 Pros, main speakers 10 -15 feet apart parallel, should form a triangle with listening position.

[@antithesis2211]

@@WWeiss-nv5vz thank you very much for painting that picture! I am a blind individual, and that was such a great description! Thank you

[@mario66country]

can I practice with my bass in the rehearsal room with an acoustic drumset?

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

A reviewer wrote: This "One Man Band" works alone: hauling all gear & playing my Yamaha Genos. In Dance Halls, I use my 12" Behringer powered Subwoofer, with two 15" & two 12" Cabs. (Sure, a 15" Sub would be better, but my 12 sounds great and spares my back!). I also play a few Restaurants, where folks want to hear conversations. These gigs are easy: just two 8" cabs. Their limited output, and virtually NO low frequencies, make my Genos sound like a cheap Walmart toy keyboard--when I know it sounds like a real live band! My PreSonus Eris Sub 8 is perfect for my restaurant gigs. With it, my Genos voices once again sound like the real things, and bass lows are awesome. I use lower gain in restaurants. However, in home-studio I enjoy higher gain--I'm blown away how close it sounds to my 12" sub! Don't let the 8" speaker size make you pass this baby up. For studio, and small to medium size venues it lacks nothing. It's less than half the weight and size of my 12" Sub--yet it easily puts out 90% of the 12" sub's low frequencies and bass thump. I love this thing!

[@josealfredfernandes]

That Presonus 8 subwoofer is near field listening studio monitor! Not outdoor equipment!

[@josealfredfernandes]

Bro, stick with pa equipment for outdoor use. Thank me later on.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

@@josealfredfernandes This is for just my personal use outdoors, backyard/park. Anytime playing in front of an audience, especially outdoors I take out the great Bose Sub 2 or if that isn't enough I also have a QSC KSub dual 12's/1,000 watts!

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

@@josealfredfernandes I know, you are right, but can you recommend a 15 pound PA sub? :) My next lightest sub is a Bose Sub1, but at 36 pounds it is sometimes too much to drag to the backyard just to listen to some tunes. I need to work out more!

[@josealfredfernandes]

@@WWeiss-nv5vz I was able to find Yorkville tapped horn, 15 inch.. but it's not suitable for 1 person to load in and out..

[@johnsuta6112]

Hi, I took your advice and ordered the sub8. But when I am connecting I can not plug in both rca plugs, I get nothing out of the sub. When I unplug either one, I get a small amount of bas out of the sub, but barely noticeable. I have everything turned up to max. The cable is new. If you have any ideas. Thank you John

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

From S1 Pro you need a 1/4" TS cable to RCA male.www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09JMT6F4T/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3MDC9KUHU6B27&th=1 plug splitter cable into single RCA cable. Dual RCA of splitter into right/left inputs of sub.www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BATDZ2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=AAK72K4OIWDXL&psc=1 Turn phone/source volume to max. Adjust S1 Pro volume to loudest you would play. Play a song on phone, turning down volume on phone until level desired. Bring up sub volume to blend with S1 Pro. At 12:00-1:00 on sub, volume should be strong.

[@mikecipparone6758]

Hello again Bill, looking at your splitter in the link above. its an RCA WYE M/M/F. The cable from the S1 pro is a TS? can a TS fit in the female side of the splitter?

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

1/4" TS from line out of S1Pro, other side of cable is rca male which goes into female side of splitter. Dual rca males into sub.

[@mikecipparone6758]

@@WWeiss-nv5vz love your content! Thank you!

[@DJJASProductions]

Can you comment on how this studio sub compares to Sub 1 in both quality/tone and SPL?

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Welcome back, haven't heard from you much on the forums? SPL- Presonus has 1/4 the power of the Sub1. It does sound good as far as SQ/tone as long as it is played within its zone which I would say is 90dB and below. It really makes a great match with the S1Pro.

[@japhdanaoofficial2205]

Hey man, here I am again. Quick question, do you think the mids and highs of the s1 pro is on par with the L1 pro 8 minus the sub? I already have the edifier t5 subwoofer same as what you have here on the video which is also an 8 inch sub. Cheers!

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

NO way! Pro8 has 8 drivers that will throw to a much further distance and at a higher volume at that max distance. S1 pro max 103dB/Pro8 max 112dB, almost 10dB difference which is equal to double the volume! Pro8 has a dispersion of 180 degrees/S1Pro 120 degrees. Meaning one Pro8 will do a much better job filling a medium size space with one column.

[@japhdanaoofficial2205]

@@WWeiss-nv5vz Thank you!

[@monyetbesar]

That's a fun setup to use outdoors! How long can the sub live off the battery you're using?

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

I've never tested long run battery time but at least 4-5 hours. The louder you play and heavy bass tracks will shorten battery charge time. I use 3 batteries from $180-$500 if you want more info?

[@jimilee4609]

Great Video 👍 Bill

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Thanks 👍

[@Charleythegod]

I would like to know more about your subwoofer and battery set up thank you!

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

What would you like to know?

[@OldBoy-USA]

I have S1 Pro plus instead. It has ONLY xlr out. How can i connect xlr out to Presonus Sub8? Thank you much.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

This is the cable you need. Good price for quality brand! www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07J6SPW72/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A37ZMG0J9UK5U5&th=1

[@difflocktwo]

what about multiple sub8s? How would they compare to similarly priced subs? Like five sub8s vs one bose sub1? I would like to run at least two sub8s in a small home 2.1 setup purely out of curiosity. Running only one now and it's way too loud for my uses but I would like it to go to lower frequencies.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

You will get more output/db's with multiple Eris 8's but the low frequency performance will NOT change. Five Eris 8's = $1,000. For that money get a single SVS SB3000 that goes up to 127dB and down to 18Hz! A single Sub1 is a live sound sub that hits 124 dB at 40Hz. Five Eris 8's will distort and get muddy trying to reach 124db!

[@difflocktwo]

@@WWeiss-nv5vz Thanks for the info.

[@difflocktwo]

@@WWeiss-nv5vz Yeah I did a bit of reading about how dBs stack. each doubling in power gets you at best a 3 dB boost. Again, thanks for your insight and these vids on this sub.

[@johnsharpe734]

Thanks for a great video. Who makes the sub and what's the model reference

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Presonus Eris 8www.amazon.com/dp/B08MJ1CCMF/ref=sspa_dk_detail_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=musical-instruments&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWxfdGhlbWF0aWM&pd_rd_i=B08MJ1CCMF&pd_rd_w=lyEy0&content-id=amzn1.sym.a8bfa847-39f1-4f54-bb95-ee052e9f7910&pf_rd_p=a8bfa847-39f1-4f54-bb95-ee052e9f7910&pf_rd_r=XF7VZ9NE75AAHRW2TE9G&pd_rd_wg=3TOAz&pd_rd_r=1b605239-3068-4ebd-9ac8-444930a9276a

[@andrewpurdy5528]

I couldn’t get the Bose S1 pros to connect in “party mode” wirelessly due to a problem with Apple iOS updates not working with the Bose Connect app. I searched and searched for information online before I stumbled onto an article about it. Very frustrating! I have an old iPad mini with an old version of iOS and it works fine. Just thought I should mention it in your comments in case someone else is having the same issue.

[@mom2my3sons]

I am having the same problem - so frustrating that I can't listen to both S1 Pros with my new Bose Sub 1 - what article did you find? I have also searched for help with no results...

[@CrossoverClassic]

Thanks again for this review Bill!

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Appreciate your feedback!

[@d2thezdeezee113]

So you link both the Bose s1 pros via the app and the presonus sub8 with auxiliary? Why do you have wires running from one of the speakers to the subwoofer and not both?

[@Ukmongoose3]

Hi there, I have been wondering about this too. The main bluetooth connection S1 with the sub connected must control the frequency allowed to the second S1 in party mode. This is just a guess, does anyone know if I am right and if not, what is the true answer pleeeeease!

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Check out my previous video: S1Pro/PreSonus 8 as my car stereo! kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4nMpadtbrCEr6M

[@scorp888]

Looks great, should really just put the power pack under the sub to show the complete setup, nice idea !

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Thanks for your feedback!

[@davidkraft8541]

thanks very informative

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Thanks for your feedback.

[@kenntaron]

Man I have 2 s1 pro like you, and I played in outdoor usage, the bass sounds heartbreaking 😢, will sub1 adding could save this problem? Around 50 people in outdoor party..

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Sub1 will transform your system to true full range! Be aware loud bass heavy tracks over 100dB, Sub1 will bottom out even though green clip light is still on green. If you play that type of music then you need the Sub2. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIHNdnaQnNiWgtU

[@LarryRichelli]

I am building the same system but using the Alto Professional Busker speakers. Even cheaper but about the same sound. Oh, one difference is that I am buying the Presonus Eris 8BT at $199 so that I will not need the cable as in your setup.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Sounds good. The BT model came out right after I purchased! Same price :(

[@DANILO3991]

Hello presonus sub8 could sound with rcf tt 515-a

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

No! 127dB RCF will drown out the Presonus. Only at very low volume say under 85dB would the Sub8 even be heard. At that point why match a $200 sub with a $1,800 speaker. TT515 at low volume doesn't sound very special, wrong application.

[@bobbauer5933]

Do you think the presonus sub would be good with the turbosound ip300 ?

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Depends on your application. It adds the missing low end for the iP300 at low volume say below 90dB. Acoustic/vocals yes, electric instruments/percussion no. The bass it adds is clean and full, it does not kick like a live PA sub.

[@mshieldsjr]

Are you BT stereo output with the Bose or set up as Mono output for each speaker?

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Stereo

[@jonathanscaffidi351]

What is the max watts presonus pulls from the battery?

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Good question, I never tested that. I can tell you though you need some good power. I tried using a 400 watt external battery and it didn't work. EcoFlow Pro 600 watts works but has humming noise with RCA inputs, 1/4 inch TRS much quieter, but very faint noise still audible. Never experienced this with any of my much more powerful subs?? Running A/C from the wall, silent??

[@KiraAndMakani]

Can you connect the EV 8 with this sub aswell?

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Yes you can, but I tried it and because the Everse 8 has very good bass and output, this sub didn't make enough of a difference!

[@yasureok4826]

The S1pro is fast becoming the VW Bug of Speakers.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Agree! Might be the best thing Bose ever came up with!

[@jimilee4609]

It’s what I Use👍👍 Except my sub is the Fishman 👍👍

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Fishman Sub, next step up:)

[@jimilee4609]

You sold me when you did that video 👍👍👍👍. I have a great clean sound with two S1 and the Fishman !

[@arturogomez258]

Hola amigo e estado siguiendo tu canal …y estoy por comprar este PreSonus Eris Sub 8BT solo una pregunta tengo la opción de por 20 dólar más sea Bluetooth …en su experiencia hacen la diferencia uno de otro …Gracias esperando su amable respuesta para decidir mi compra …saludos desde Monterrey México 🇲🇽

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

I have the non Bluetooth model, Bluetooth is a nice feature.

[@PeterPham]

When would you get a s2 sub over the s1?

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

More volume, 2X as much, music played -Sub2 Hip hop, rap, electronic, live drums/bass guitar. If you have the $$$+muscles=Sub2

[@avi_wwww]

great thank youuuuuu

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Appreciate the feedback!

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Another KZbin video on the Eris 8 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKXcioCkopdrlaM

[@lucabertolaso2167]

Consider to try db technologies es503

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

I've never heard it. It's a good price, but at this time I have too much similar performing PA gear.

[@lucabertolaso2167]

@@WWeiss-nv5vz it's a 3 way amplifier with dsp you can choose if play in dual mono or stereo... Or a single column without tripod

[@224chingon]

Whats the name of that battery pack. Thanks

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Amazon $200 GrantMaya www.amazon.com/Portable-300Watts-Generator-Traveling-Emergency/dp/B0787SHJ21/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2KVD7ZW9FXKCN&keywords=grantmaya+portable+power+station%2C+300w&qid=1686285898&sprefix=%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-3&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.f5122f16-c3e8-4386-bf32-63e904010ad0

[@Lgzman96]

I cannot use the app to pair them together :(

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Call Bose support, they should pair.

[@antithesis2211]

What’s the best stand for the Bose S1 pro, so that it doesn’t get toppled over outdoors!?! Lol.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Very heavy duty for a 15 pound speaker but you asked for the best! www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Support-TeleLock-Lift-Assist-TS90B/dp/B0002BG2I6/ref=sr_1_7?crid=21PHUDQJJMI3S&keywords=ultimate+speaker+stands&qid=1677562010&sprefix=ultimate%2Caps%2C190&sr=8-7&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.08f69ac3-fd3d-4b88-bca2-8997e41410bb#

[@antithesis2211]

Thank you very much! I have two of those things, and I want to protect it.

[@Truth209]

Could the Grantmaya power the Sub 1?

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

At low volumes yes. If you turn it up and play heavy bass tracks the Sub1 will shut down. I recommend the Ecoflow Pro. www.amazon.com/EF-ECOFLOW-Portable-Multiple-Recharge/dp/B08T1KY8SG/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1J7GR0A2KS7KP&keywords=ecoflow+pro&qid=1689185612&sprefix=ecoflow+pro%2Caps%2C189&sr=8-3&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.c3015c4a-46bb-44b9-81a4-dc28e6d374b3

[@Truth209]

@@WWeiss-nv5vz awesome thanks for the reply!!

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

I should mention, I demonstrated this set up with small sub outside only because it was a nice sunny day. This sub is not meant for outside play! To get best results, since it is a studio sub, it should be placed nearfield in a medium to small space. Typical bedroom would be perfect.

[@bboymac84]

Shouldn’t you be going out from the sub to the tops? Then put the S1 pro to sub mode 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

If you do that, you will lose Bluetooth ability, which for me is necessary for a truly portable system.

[@bboymac84]

@@WWeiss-nv5vz oh ok. I’m a DJ that’s why I wire it that way. Makes sense though 👍🏽 I didn’t know that. Hey you know about the SKAA speakers? They are wireless too

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

I have never heard any SKAA speakers. Would like to try the Soundboks. Thanks for the heads up, I will look into them.@@bboymac84

[@bboymac84]

@@WWeiss-nv5vz awesome it’s one of the best wireless speakers because it uses something better than Bluetooth

[@DanielDavis730]

I buy 2 of these with the sub & not loud enough to cover 100 people with vocals. Made in china & the cheapest speakers u can buy in china

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Wrong application, these speakers are rated for 50 people max! Sub is made for indoor small room use, not live play.

[@WWeiss-nv5vz]

Price drop Bose S1 Pro $600

[@profitglen]

I have to disagree on this. I bought this sub, and I have two Bose S1 Pro+ speakers, and this sub is noticeably lackluster. The output and the bass quality is low. I have the settings just as you have them here.

[@BH4x0r]

it's literally made to be used indoors and to accurately image the bass from a song to mix don't know why he got the idea to use this outdoors or in a PA setup, unless he doesn't need much volume dependant on what type of songs you play you might need to check if they're not songs with what i call "fake bass" like a lot of rap/hiphop songs nowadays, they often don't use real bass tones also this won't give a "boom" sound as it's made to be accurate