A Perfect Way To Explain The Evolution Of Pro Wrestling

Scott D'Amore gives an excellent explanation of how pro wrestling is always evolving by sharing a quote from Lou Thesz talking about how Harley Race was a comical wrestler to him #wrestling #prowrestling #harleyrace

[@JasonDouglasOfficial]

No matter how much things change, they stay the same. Brilliant, indeed, Mr. D'Amore.

[@zoroarkking18]

I read that as "Dr. D'amore" and just didn't question his credentials as a doctorate of wrestling science

[@immortalnightbody]

That's not what he said - AT ALL. He said - things change. Period. Can't believe 1.2K agreed with you. Guess they weren't listening, either.

[@TruthBomber73]

​@@immortalnightbodyI thought the same thing!!!

[@Principaledpragmatist]

​@@immortalnightbodyno matter how much things change=wrestling and wrestlers evolve Some things stay the same=the past generation insults it and says it's a disgrace to professional wrestling. I listened to the whole and understood what the OP was saying. Maybe it's you who took it wrong, not the 1.4k that liked it.

[@jfdrac]

@@immortalnightbody I think he got thst but the poster is saying that opinions and attitudes dont change from old timers

[@user-ih2tr7rt9r]

That is just a perfect example. I’m so glad that Scott compare those two quotes/perspectives because it’s kind of what wrestling is now but at the same time it’s a perfect logic of explanation and I’m glad that Scott understands how it works

[@FunFilmzProductions]

I find it funny that most people will almost always say that the “golden age of wrestling” is whatever lines up with when they were kids/introduced to wrestling.

[@rustyshackleford5516]

Oh for sure. Grew up during the Monday night wars. That's my favorite time, but I don't 💩 on the ruthless aggression era. Just the PG era. 😆

[@redrick8900]

Nah, most people say it was the attitude era.

[@Hugh_Morris]

That's the golden age of most things really

[@thebasketballhistorian3291]

It's like how everyone says "music was so much better before" without realizing that when they were young, that's the exact same thing their parents said about music then. 😂

[@redrick8900]

@@thebasketballhistorian3291 When I was young I said music was better when my parents were young.

[@philipscott3241]

Strangler Lewis said the same thing about it in the 20s.

[@aye_its_karate6169]

So did your mother, Debra "the stinky anus monster" Mansion💯

[@thelionsshare6668]

Strangler Lewis trained Thesz.

[@Cooterscooter6969]

All wrestling fans need to hear this.

[@Sd12sx23]

And pod casters. And you tubers.

[@mjuzumaki]

And Cornette.

[@BuJammy]

why?

[@Fencellisk]

Harley Race drew money. Orange Cassidy will never. 🤷‍♂️

[@Sd12sx23]

So...maybe it won't do any good for every wrestling fan to hear this...

[@charlieward5476]

Something I never knew about Harley until after his passing is the NWA didn’t want him anywhere near the heavyweight title because he had tattoos speaking about the evolution of wrestling

[@Jrez]

Was Ice Cube a wrestling fan?

[@LOSKOSKI]

Could you elaborate? I know Race had tats, but I didn't know they told a story.

[@charlieward5476]

@@LOSKOSKI When Dory pretty much refused to drop the title to Jack they had to find an interim champion and when Race was brought up the board rejected it at first because of the outlandish bumps he took and what some people on the board thought was just not acceptable for a champion were the tattoos he had. If you love the history of wrestling I strongly suggest get the Death of the Territories audiobook or the physical book because it’s awesome

[@Jedi-Ghosty]

Harley was brilliant, I'm a younger wrestling fan so I obviously didn't see him in his prime but watching the people he influenced as well as watching his matches just shows how brilliant he was. It is interesting to see how many people from the generation before Harley had doubts in his style of wrestling. Great interview as always Chris

[@gst013]

He did flop around like a fish when he was selling and reacted to punches in a way no human ever would, so it's not exactly wrong.

[@trevorcorcoran5007]

Fun fact: Karl Gotch thought Harley Race was killing wrestling.

[@Harakengard]

Yep, calling him a "yamakazi" or something like that.

[@MiketheNerdRanger]

Nowadays, that is an absurd thing to even think.

[@therenegadej5764]

Amazing how that works isn’t it?

[@charlie-j4o7u]

This mans an encyclopedia. He should be in the HOF, hes done souch for wrestling.

[@erics8018]

Off TNA??

[@TheNinthHeart]

How is he an encyclopedia?

[@charlie-j4o7u]

@@TheNinthHeart what

[@Fencellisk]

A single piece of information does not make someone an encyclopedia. Lol!

[@erics8018]

@@Fencellisk definitely when it's not a very historic whatsoever piece is it?

[@Rocketboy1313]

There will always be old men yelling at clouds.

[@BilalYousef-qy7dz]

Lou thesz was right tho

[@NAGAVERSE]

​@@BilalYousef-qy7dzhe was just as Ridiculous as Harley. Basically He's a Hypocrite. So is every old wrestlers. When people grow old. They shout at the clouds. While hardcore fans take it as like a Holy Script.

[@liamjm9278]

@@NAGAVERSE Explain why they're wrong.

[@BilalYousef-qy7dz]

@@NAGAVERSE No he wasn't did you ever watch his matches lou thesz was an artist at pro wrestling I ain't old I am in my teens and his wrestling was one of the best Sure harley race and hulk hogan have their places but nothing is better than that era of wrestling for me

[@BilalYousef-qy7dz]

@@NAGAVERSE What do you mean hard-core fans lou thesz was a hard-core fan of pro wrestling and he hated the era of clowns of people who didn't know how to wrestle and I agree with him When I watch his era of wrestling it better than the crap we have today

[@gevdarg]

Amen, Scott. Perspective is everything. Yes, brilliant.

[@jwolf8371]

I wish every wrestling fan online would have to watch this clip. So sick of hearing how much better is was back whenever. It will always evolve. I loved wrestling when I was a kid, but also love wrestling now.

[@SlySpectre96]

This analogy can be applied to many concepts. Not just wrestling. Style, slang, art, etc.

[@FFmaxxx]

People are naturally afraid of change. It takes time for people to adapt and unfortunately some people will never adapt and society moves on

[@josedlaconsha1731]

I can see what Lou was talking about. If you look back at wrestling in the 70s and 80s you can see how wrestling was way different than what wrestling was/is in the 90s-present. The way they sell, the moves that they pull off, the pace of the matches, etc.

[@TheNinthHeart]

Not really. Rasslin didn’t alter much during those years. It was Dynamite & the rest of the JP strong style guys & MEX high fliers that switched up the game, but their influence wasn’t felt in murica until the 00s

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

Yeah, famous 90s wrestler, Harley Race...

[@TheHardys01]

Lou Thesz began his career all the way back in the 30's. Yur comment is ridiculous.

[@josedlaconsha1731]

@@TheHardys01 Lou Thesz passed away in 2002. So he was able to make that comment in the 70s or 80s before he passed away.

[@TheHardcoreRob]

Scott has one of the most creative minds. He’s a legit wrestling genius. The guy knows psychology, he understands philosophy, and he can teach better than most of the people doing it presently. He’s an asset to any team that has him. No shit.

[@herculesbrofister265]

If he thought Race was cartoony, imagine what he'd think of the Undertaker

[@orangesilver4568]

Paul Bearer did a shoot interview about working a match with Lou Thesz. Paul screwed up a spot and Lou Thesz cussed him out and Bearer thought his career in wrestling was over when he just started it.

[@tylercox1875]

@@orangesilver4568that sounds a bit like undertakers first match which was against bruiser Brody

[@allanramsdell5201]

D’Amore seems like an absolutely intelligent man when it comes to the business. Whatever I’ve read of him, heard from him, seen him do, he just seems like a brilliant mind for pro wrestling. Such a shame TNA shit on him.

[@neilslater1182]

There's a film called Night and the City from 1950 which features Stanislaus Zbyszko. His character basically complains about the state of the current wrestlers and how showy it all is. A few years back when I first saw it it kind of made me realise that point that's being made here.

[@agiammarco94]

I think it's funny how this can be an example for anything in life. So many times we hear stuff like this in other facets of life and it's the same. The cyclical nature of it all.

[@JoKiR90]

Gonna have to check this interview out. Scott seems like he has some serious gems 💎

[@brucecombs3108]

If Harley Race was just portraying a drunk guy in the ring, he never broke character.

[@paultanski-hampton928]

Reminds me of that saying..."war never changes"

[@supportpatriarchyordietrying]

it does, it hella does. It went from 2 armies battling it out on a field to just throwing bombs onto civilians.

[@bobmirco3331]

Wow. What a perspective I never heard before. Times always change and the older generation will always think their generation was best. But 30 years from wrestling will be so different and we will say our generation was best. The cycle goes on and on

[@bluestripetiger]

I think once people accepted that wrestling was just "sports entertainment", people embraced it. Today people watch wrestling not because they want to see a legit NCAA or Olympic style wrestling match, but because they want to see a show with story lines. They want to see the wrestlers pull off incredible moves and see the opponent take the move safely and live to fight another day. It's all about the wow factor, it's all about getting the most bang for your buck while at the same time still being able to support what you see because you know at the end of the day it's still scripted and no one is out to legitimately hurt anyone. It's about embracing fantasy while also acknowledging that the performers in the ring are highly skilled at what they do. Now wrestlers do get hurt because of the athletic and physical nature of wrestling and when it happens you can see the concern on the fans' faces, no one ever roots for a wrestler to get hurt or wants to see it happen. In the end every one knows it was an accident, it wasn't caused by the opponent wanting to deliberately injure the opponent.

[@Nightmare-we8vm]

Evolution isn't about being better. It's about the industry and community gaining a better understanding of the art and adjusting to meet a given goal. Many older fans forget that expectations change as rules are made and different media are introduced.

[@ther3aper561]

What a good way to put it

[@justinmcdonald2072]

No one likes there work deemed less and not measuring up. I tend to appreciate it across the board, the same goes for the cinema and games. Some can say this person was not an ambassador for what we do. None can do a cross generation match to prove it.

[@MrWebb1990]

Chris you have been on a roll With these interview much respect to you

[@herecomesdatrain]

I hate to say it but I agree with Scott on this one. I like you cornette but you can be wrong

[@hunterdelano]

Same, I like cornette. Man Is funny and smart to the business, but being a fan of his you also gotta disagree with somethings such as the wyatt sicks he hates it, I love it

[@tkin1973]

Cornette himself has brought up the times old wrestlers would complain to him about the way the Midnight Express worked.

[@PatrickSaka1911]

​@@hunterdelanoSame. I mean, I also don't like people like Ricochet and others who do all the flips. It's not entertaining to me. But if it is to some, who am I to judge their taste? Cornette has also said that stuff about Asuka and she's my favorite ever, so it's all just opinion and it'd be great if people could treat it that way.

[@StrongStyleShooter]

Idk if it’s just me but his biases have been showing a lot lately Once he hates you it’s hard to get on his good side and once he likes you it’s like you can no longer do wrong

[@zhougongjin2704]

@@StrongStyleShooterhe used to like The Rock but now he Hates him..

[@darylmixan8170]

I started watching WWF in the mid 80's. I never watched Territories, so when King Harley Race was in WWF he was a shiveled old man who always lost... We called him King Can't Hardly Win Race... It took until I was in my 30's to know he was a badass and the Man in the 70's.

[@TheMR043]

I want all the "Attitude Era Nostalgia Merchants" to watch this clip over & over again until it registers in their thick skulls.

[@rh_BOSS]

The Attitude Era was just as guilty of the same sins as the eras that came before and after it. The difference was the wrestling was hot and most of the guys were over. The audience gave loud pops even when some midcard guys appeared on the screeen.

[@lazypaladin]

That legit blew my mind and is gonna be handy for when i inevitably get into the _"Flippy Wrestling"_ and _"Too many finishers"_ arguments.

[@DoffysGlasses]

Weird whataboutism argument, tbh. "Sure, they did 20 superkicks and than a top rope 450° splash and than lit the dude on fire and than threw him off the titantron and only a two count. However, what about when Lou Thesz thought Harley Race was cartoony in the way he sold moves? Checkmate, pal."

[@redrick8900]

@@DoffysGlasses Nothing you said is rational.

[@shirogitsune3480]

@@DoffysGlassesman, it’s almost like you’re the exact guy he was talking about

[@SquawkMonk]

But for real tho...too many finishers 😅

[@smellywaffels1967]

@@DoffysGlasses But I bet you were okay with Kane setting people on fire and Undertaker shooting lighting from his fingers and Mick Foley taking 30 chair shots to the head.

[@the.ricefarmer]

I was gonna guess a super old guy (maybe Buddy Rogers or smth) and the 'new gen' wrestler to be Hulk Hogan. I knew the quote had to be timeless, but I didn't expect Scott to go that far into history 😅

[@coolcebolla]

Scott D'Amore and Christopher Daniels would be amazing GM's for AEW Dynamite and Collision

[@DoffysGlasses]

What a waste of talent that'd be, so I guess it follows the AEW pattern

[@fscorpion678]

Scott should oversee ROH

[@rayzermaniac5218]

People would probably find wrestling matches during Lou Thesz's time boring because we are so used to the added spectacle and spot fest's we usually get.

[@sporty1976s]

Lou Thesz is the greatest professional wrestler that ever lived.

[@zakeryperez5712]

Where can I find that quote from Lou?

[@nunchuksteev9811]

Harley Race did oversell and was cartoony. Maybe not the words I would have chosen but they work. Ive watched pretty much everything I could find on Harley and was blown away at how over the top his style was for its time.

[@jackhughes7637]

I get this perspective, but Harley Race was still trying to simulate combat. That was the end goal, whether Lou Thesz thought it was decent or not. Most wrestlers nowadays aren't aiming to simulate combat, just do a flashy routine that will make the crowd chant about how awesome the flips are.

[@DoffysGlasses]

Exactly, there comes a point when it just jumps the shark so hard it's turning into parody. For example, whenever friend and foe huddle up to catch a random moron jumping onto all of them, not at all contrived, right? And that's just a basic, common example.

[@TakarieZan]

Point went over your head. “Nowadays” people love wrestling more than ever. Women’s division is wrestling harder than ever. If you don’t like it that’s fine, but despite it being different it is very much the same. Wrestling has been goofy since… idk the 80s? Probably earlier

[@thebigandgreat1]

Thank you! I’m so glad you fleshed out that perspective between simulating actual combat which is what Harley was doing regardless of what Thesz thought vs modern day pro wrestling where they go out of their way to make one see that what they are doing is fake. D’Amore is correct on a macro perspective, but when you go into the detailed aspects of what has always worked in the artform/sport you clearly see whats missing from much of the modern product especially the novice level 🐂 💩 on the indies.

[@azuman7]

What part of "Wrestling changes" is being lost on you? NO MATTER WHAT wrestler is today versus what was back then, AS LONG AS THE FANS LIKE IT, then the wrestling is good. PERIOD. If a Lou Thez match would bomb today, that's not a problem with the audience, that's a problem with the wrestler. For context, I'm 42, and I am NOT someone who goes around say "When I was young, wrestling was good, now it sucks."

[@redrick8900]

@@TakarieZan Wrestling was way more popular 25 years ago. That's just a fact. Hulk Hogan and Stone Cold are still bigger names than anyone working today. You say the name "Roman Reigns" to a non wrestling fan and they have no idea who you are talking about. You say "The Rock" to anyone and they know who you are talking about.

[@user-ih2tr7rt9r]

and that’s the thing no matter what people say about you you will always will be a champion in the peoples eyes, and you will always will be a legend in the peoples heart, and you will always will be a Hall of Famer with the whole world remembering your name even if they don’t appreciate you or anybody else you will shut them up and prove them wrong

[@silentpilot833]

CVV's eyebrows loved that perspective

[@gurpaljohal8643]

Every Wrestling Era, had its flaws. And there will be in the future. It's never perfect because to some, it's not perfect but for others it's perfect for them.

[@wolverinethad]

Jim should listen to this and take it to heart.

[@TheJrod482x]

The Golden Age of Anything to most people is when they were young and into it the most.

[@timfox5337]

Heck of a perspective but Lou Thesz would roll over in his grave if he saw what Orange Cassidy is doing today. So the crap keeps going downhill.

[@shining-wizard37]

I KNEW it was gonna be a guy talking about Harley Race! Because there's no one else who could be on the receiving end of that quote that would illustrate D'amore's point better

[@lilsleepy3332]

this goes for boxing, music, basketball, really every art or sport with any sort of agency.

[@Mathias6x]

The most popular wrestler ever was Stone Cold Steve Austin and when he became super popular he didn't have the best ability in the ring.

[@akamiguelsanchez9985]

Except Harley never wrestled with his hands in his goddamn pockets.

[@nofearofwater]

You know what’s funny even in the mid 2000s to early 2010s era even I knew that stuff was comical and unbelievable

[@jingalls9142]

I always enjoyed mr Chris. But lately ive discovered i love mr CVV. Youre doing good budday. Thank you for your hard work.

[@FCRaiders21]

honestly thought it was a harley race to Undertaker type of shtick. It being Lou Thesz to Harley Race is WILD. what an anecdote!

[@michiganjack1337]

And two of the absolute best ever

[@Sd12sx23]

Amen, brother! Now, can someone forward this video to every wrestling Podcaster in the world, please.

[@troystaunton254]

That is an awesome take. My initial thoughts was that it’d be someone like Harley race talking about Bret hart. So imagine my surprise when it’s about Harley.

[@mariopadilla1445]

This doesn’t just apply to wrestling. This mentality applies to society as a whole. All the time older generations talk trash about new generations

[@shootits48]

The kimura roll they showed at the end was legit and very dangerous

[@anthonytippett5997]

I love that perspective.

[@hgb0005]

i love that the guess was Cornette and Pockets

[@isleofredemption]

It's so strange. I was into wrestling between 1993 and 1995- after Hogan left but before the Attitude Era. It was such a bizzare time with the MOST cartoony characters.

[@artirony410]

In my opinion guys like Vince McMahon, Eric Bischoff, and Vince Russo did pretty much irreversible damage to pro wrestling when they basically decided that the way to present pro wrestling was to basically turn pro wrestling into a parody of itself

[@tylerlewis2706]

I love this clip!

[@salamander337]

This reminded me of The Rock fish flop after getting the Stone Cold Stunner. 😂😂😂

[@TJ_1611]

Wow, that really puts things in to perspective

[@johnscilleto]

I love this quote

[@nebelung_m]

I sincerely believe we are living in a golden era with the likes of Gunther, Randy Orton, AJ Styles LA Knight...

[@GillBoldberg]

The problem is most guys don’t even know how to sell moves anymore. They just flip, dive, and get back up like nothing happened. Psychology is what’s missing now. Not to mention them kicking out of multiple finishers making them useless.

[@Axs_Nice_Hair]

Yup. I don't mind a lot of the new stuff but I will never respect the Trampoline boys. I came to watch Wrestling. Not the friggin Ringling Brothers.

[@kristopherwilson506]

Y’all are exactly the Lou Thez to Harley Race. We’ll see how this ages in 15 years😂

[@GillBoldberg]

@@kristopherwilson506 Harley Race still sold moves dum-dum.

[@scotthardie5141]

Okay Lou.

[@StevenJackson215]

Just had a look on Cagematch. Apparently in 1967 Harley Race and Lou Thesz faced each other in a series of tag team matches in the AWA. Three ended in DQs. Not directly relevant but could be?

[@TheVanneo]

I really like Harley, but I immediately thought of him as soon as he asked the question.

[@period8705]

I thought it was Corney talking about Kenny Omega. Really opened my eyes because Harley Race was one of the best.

[@BostinBlackCountryKickboxer]

Team Canada was my favourite thing in tna or impact or whatever it was called

[@PopsieFunk]

There is some truth to that perspective, but there is also such a thing as "jumping the shark"...

[@andrelegeant88]

Lou was 100% right about Harley though. I've never enjoyed a Harley match. I think the boys loved him more than the fans.

[@nigelis2345]

Maybe there is some wrestler from a previous generation who said a similar thing about Lou Thez.

[@Yoni123]

Strangler Lewis did. And it's a valid point. Because now with AEW they have crossed the line where they are hurting the business with their BS. The business would be in a better place had they not gone much past Race's days in terms of stretching believability.

[@McMahonHater]

The previous generation was Ed "Strangler" Lewis and he trained Thez.

[@KevinBullard]

That ear fob is breathtaking

[@paulvernoncreates]

This is gold.

[@jshipp5469]

While the theme is correct, so was Lou. Relative to what was happening with in wrestling Lou’s day Harley’s as cartoony. However Harley still looks legit in comparison to anything post 2011

[@devadasn]

This lady knows a lot about wrestling

[@thomasbradley2677]

Way cool 😎! I'm 70yo now. I've been watching wrestling since about 1st grade. Me and Great Grandma loved wrestling! I have watched the Greats. I have seen a lot of changes. But, to me, it's still, The Greatest Show on Earth! Lol 😂. The Atomik sends. Peace ✌. ❤

[@Mrdonjuliothewicked]

This is a great example with sports in general, actually just about everything, music, media, etc. but i personally see it all the time being a big nba fan. 90s-early 2000s nba players always saying current nba players aint shit, are soft, wouldnt last a second in their world. Its all silly. If youre a great, youre a great.

[@artirony410]

I mean with a legitimate sport like the NBA these arguments from old players are just foolish because we have actual data that shows new players are just objectively better than them by multiple metrics.

[@Foxo-Matti12]

There are both positives and negatives about any era. My problem is with people acting like this era is perfect, when in fact it isn't. We could talk about the pointless 20 minute matches where you already know who's gonna win or the main events with little to no stakes, or main events on Raw or Dynamite or any other show where it just ends with no cliffhanger or anythinng to make you go watch next week... but for example, many storylines from the last 3-4 years are really much better than some from even the ruthless aggression era. They should mix them all and make the "perfect" product. That being said I still love watching WWE and AEW PPVS.

[@user-ih2tr7rt9r]

Yeah, but like this isn’t what it used to be anymore we did something good with that era now we’re doing something different but what are you saying? Are you saying that maybe the new era of WWE or Pro wrestling? Is it like what it was back in the early 2000s or are you saying that like even though there are some things that are perfect, but there are some other storylines that are not if you’re saying that what makes you not interested like you were

[@SapphireSandwichBoys]

​@@user-ih2tr7rt9r hes saying this generation of wrestling has flaws but has some storyline that are even better than ruthless aggression Era

[@MoojinBoi]

nothing's perfect so we should be happy for the good we have and hope they simply be better where possible as time goes on

[@mapledripcomics]

Who acts like this era is perfect?

[@user-ih2tr7rt9r]

@@SapphireSandwichBoys oh OK all right then I only asked because I was kind of confused with his question and also I thought he was saying that it was bad or garbage or something like that but I miss read or miss heard for what he was just saying because I thought I read it wrong but OK then I was just saying and plus there are a lot of other storylines that are better than some of the ruthless aggression storylines they had some great storylines, but there were a lot of other storylines from that era That was bad but I’m glad that wrestling is so much better now and it’s no longer like full with bad undertones with it

[@MadSnake123]

That is actually mind blowing ...

[@OldChanCharlie]

Idk man, I love my era. Late 90’s-early 00’s. Don’t think there will be anything like it but others may feel the same about their era

[@exactinmidget92]

That "Sure" is the same answer I give when anyone mentions any of the new guys.

[@matthewpafford9669]

Harley race was a hell of a champion .. great seller as well

[@NoName-cz3wn]

Yeah but there IS a line. We all know its entertainment, but movies still have to be believable within the universe where they take place. There is no reason to not ATTEMPT to make the audience suspend disbelief. Otherwise, you're just doing gymnastics exhibitions or hitting each other with chairs for no reason

[@Spandau-Filet]

Finally some reason here.

[@Erlewyn]

Except that line doesn't separate realistic and unrealistic (because if you look at it honestly, pro wrestling hasn't been realistic since at least the 60s), but between "unrealistic I accept" and "unrealistic I don't accept". Thing is, everybody puts that line in a different place.

[@BaulFoodmanedits]

Wait is the Lou Thesz press named after him

[@Erlewyn]

Yes, it was his finisher (but done quite differently than the way Austin did it).

[@LordRockington83]

Brilliant perspective. It's funny how myopic each generation can be about their own generation. Wrestling, Music, Movies, Video Games, etc. Everyone says their time was better.

[@flippineck2825]

Modern example is how attitude era felt about cena.

[@KyokujiFGC]

A lot of the old guard said the same thing about Flair.

[@blaze3422160]

But there is a caveat in there in that there are times where things have gotten so cartoony, phony, over the top, however one wants to say it. While wrestling changes in the variety of moves wrestlers do, at its core wrestling doesn’t and shouldn’t change.

[@ClassicalVintage1824]

"Lou Thesz Saying Harley Race is Cartoony" Meanwhile the footage is Lou Thesz vs Buddy Rogers..and Rogers back then was overselling

[@GenericProtagonist118]

This generations fans in the future are gonna talk about how tough Cody was for entering a match with a torn and bruised pectoral.

[@artirony410]

I mean they already do, same with Seth wrestling on a destroyed knee, but then they turn around and call AEW dangerous and negligent for letting someone work with objectively less serious injuries than those lol

[@scottmcginn2169]

I've often said that the funniest thing would be to go back to the 80s, imagine a podcast, "The Lou Thesz Experience".... "And this clown in his dads suit, carrying a damn tennis racquet, what has that got to do with Wrestling?"

[@BuJammy]

"Nothing, like, means anything maaaaaaannnn"

[@yardape99]

I could be wrong, but I believe it was Karl Gotch with the bash on Harley Race.... unless Thesz thought that way too.

[@Harakengard]

They probably both did.

[@jeremyw7983]

I never realized D’Amore looks alot like the guy from Barenaked Ladies.

[@reginaldcaine6161]

And this is why TNA is doing very, very well right now

[@GoramYako]

Cornette is just an old crazy man

[@jrockwv8658]

That's so cool I never knew that

[@ryanx2406]

Dmore has never drawn a dime. Which is why modern day wrestling is a netch product. Modern day wrestlers are wrestling in a time where all the secrets have been exposed. And people know the magic behid the mirror. .

[@druid_zephyrus]

It's almost like EVERY older generation in _every_ field doesnt want to stay up to date with changes and thus treats those changes as a problem caused by the next generation. People used to complain that, "kids these days, with their paper and pencils! None of them know how to properly wipe a slate with a rag" Before, students used slate and chalk.

[@michaelhenderson849]

Late '90s I was a young wrestler and The Honky Tonk Man said us young guys are killing the business. Funny thing is I watch aew feel the same way now

[@artirony410]

Hilarious for someone as terribly lame as Honky Tonk Man to say lmfao. Yeah man you totally weren't killing the business going on TV and playing a wrestling Elvis impersonator