A PowerPoint about Weird Mechanics in Pokemon

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[@ofelianatividad374]

an alomomola can wish but a wish cannot alomomola

[@shieldon530]

Someone has to be brave enough to say this

[@enoyna1001]

Pure wisdom

[@kayagorzan]

No truer words have been said

[@TheQuilavaQueen]

Cottlestone Cottlestone Cottlestone pie

[@ultrajoey3478]

But a wish can cash

[@LoMaLouis]

Remember that Pichu gets Wish, that 20 base hp gonna be a crazy wish!

[@usernametaken017]

stop bullying the child

[@crumpetsancheese2197]

shedninja wish when.

[@Deadflower019]

@@crumpetsancheese2197 _Gives you back 0.5 Health_

[@traiges414]

The really sad thing is that Pokemons power creep is at a point where releasing Slaking and Regigigas with neutral abilities wouldn't even be enough to make them stand out under all the other new mons.

[@nicolasromani3523]

Fr wth makes Slaking so special compared to Palafin or Dracovish?

[@convalaria]

@@nicolasromani3523slaking is probably special because its in ZU (i think?), so if you remove its ability you get legendary stats

[@enoyna1001]

​@@nicolasromani3523It came out 6 generations earlier where GF had no idea how to balance because it was the first generation with abilities.

[@Normale.]

i think something like Klutz would even be balanced for it

[@1TieDye1]

Petition for huge power slaking/regigigas

[@bcf789]

I will never forget the excitement I had of being able to use Regigigas in a game with no abilities, giving it a whole bunch of moves in preparation, only to be blue-balled when the slow start popup showed up. The game doesn't even have PVP in it which makes it even MORE baffling!!

[@christiancinnabars1402]

Legends Plate Arceus is fine, but no Ability Regigigas? Hold your horses, there...

[@lokitheblu8662]

The damage calculator may be wrong here but im pretty sure regigigas also has halved damage on body press as well despite it going off your defence stat which isn’t halved by slow start

[@Dudeman23rd]

What the actual hell Game Freak

[@gregorymirabella1423]

Yes, this is because slow start doesn't half your attack stat. It halves the damage done when you click a physical move. Foul play and body press are physical, so it applies.

[@matthiasbarish1296]

I am convinced that someday Gamefreak is gonna give Regigigas a hidden ability and it’s going to be something insane like Huge Power

[@beth7343]

watch it be fucking truant

[@crumpetsancheese2197]

they were actually considering giving it Clear Body in gen 5 but decided against it

[@christiancinnabars1402]

Extremely Slow Start; it took 5+ generations to actually get going.

[@matthiasbarish1296]

@@christiancinnabars1402 17 years, 40 weeks, and 2 days, and it STILL hasn’t gotten going

[@willgloryo216]

​@@beth7343Tbf slaking is a slacker pkmn

[@Foolish_Spoon]

soul-heart really makes me question just how frightening magearna would be in VGC if it were legal

[@MeatbagSlayer]

The gen after, Soul Heart would only proc once.

[@hyliasknight]

I traced soul-heart onto my Gardevoir during a randbats match on showdown once. Best match I've ever played.

[@sonicrunn3r895]

I mean it's kinda like Calyrex Ice Rider I think, you have a bulky trick room sweeper that snowballs if left unchecked. Only now with Zacian's typing and an even more generous ability.

[@tezminator]

@@sonicrunn3r895 was about to mention Calyrex, but the other one. It's literally the same thing, but better because of the extra Unnerve effect.

[@sonicrunn3r895]

@@tezminator I mean yeah. They're not identical though and tbh it's a question of if the defensive typing and slightly better snowballing ability (activating if ANYONE goes down, not just if you take the KO) are better than the usually better stats, broken signature move and bonus shutdown of berries. In SV specifically I'd say no, particularly just because Terra lets Calyrex just become a better type to mitigate one of its biggest weaknesses. But in other formats depending on the gimmicks in play I could see a case to be made for Magearna being comparable.

[@Mr.Cynical]

*"... it never fucking dies ..."* I heard the anger in that one. 🤣

[@njivwathomassilavwe2056]

Gamefreak has it out for Regigigas

[@MrGhosta5]

Dude is a beast in doubles were you can easily use your partner pokemon to get rid of slow start.

[@sinteleon]

@@MrGhosta5 One day slow start will be made unaffected by neutralyzing gas. :V

[@denizmergen418]

why out of all delta pokemon you choose the shitest

[@njivwathomassilavwe2056]

@@denizmergen418 rude. Serperior is my favorite Pokemon, blue is one of my favorite colors and I like water types it was a no brainer I'd love this delta

[@tdfhjd]

Thoroughly enjoyable. Slow start was super funny to use on a skill trap team with Gigas, goth psychic, and I forgot who else.

[@whyareyoulookingatthis236]

The voice training is going crazy queen keep up the good work!

[@ElectricWindGirlFriend]

thank you! :)

[@braedenwinstead1984]

Oh wait is the owner of this channel not male?

[@whyareyoulookingatthis236]

@@braedenwinstead1984 ewgf is a woman yes

[@righteouself9928]

Oh she is trans? Hell yeah

[@hector_here9790]

@@braedenwinstead1984 trans

[@R.P.Genocraft]

That's kinda just how foul play works tbh, it's why Wo-Chien's foul play isn't weakened by its own ability for example. I didn't know about the special Z-move thing tho that's funny AF

[@RevvySD]

Forgot to mention in the Magearna section that while it was legal you could run a full team of restricted mons😭. Ofc Magearna isn’t snowballing when it’s hitting into Kyogre Zacian Groudon and other dishonest mons on the same team

[@lackofsins929]

With everything you mentioned about Slow Start, olus the lack of recover or anything ok on Gigas, AND Body Press being reduced too, I think Gigas is probably the most consistently nerfed mon despite already having the worst ability in the game. Which is saying something, when even Thundurus causing like 8 nerfs across the whole game still kept it good.

[@dansattah]

Every Regigigas video without Neutralising Gas: *"Stop! He's already dead!"*

[@rishabhanand4973]

Regigigas with a neutralizing gas partner: call an ambulance... But not for me

[@Deadflower019]

Regigigas and his best friend Weezing: The Dynamic Duo

[@SumThingFawful]

GameFreak finding new ways and nerfing niche situations to specifically target Regigigas never fails to make me laugh. No Rest, No protect. Even in legends he still has slow start. GF really looked at him and went. You will sit out and suffer.

[@edgargaebolg9307]

Strange that they didn't make it immune to Neutralizing Gas tbh

[@SumThingFawful]

@@edgargaebolg9307 With how much spite they have for the big dude. I'm also surprised they didn't exclude him

[@edgargaebolg9307]

@@SumThingFawful Excluding him equals the sweet release of death. He must live across the generations and perpetuate his suffering

[@SSNNPBCC]

At least in legends Arceus regigigas is a damn behemoth for the AI to take out. I can only imagine how much more ridiculous it would get without Slow Start

[@TheGlyde18]

The absurdist philosophy of Camus really does apply to Gigas

[@Rainer2424]

Rocky helmet blocking rapid spin is a personal favorite of mine

[@MetronaJ]

Something very funny abot toxic is that when used by a poison type it has not only perfect accuracy but also bypasses semi-invulnerability This includes, fly, dig, dive, phantom force and shadow force So even while your opponent isnt physically there for some reason toxic still hits when used by a poison type

[@ElectricWindGirlFriend]

toxic ALSO has a glitch in gen 6 and 7 that's even more insane that i'm very excited to talk about. toxic is such a funny move

[@matthiasbarish1296]

@@ElectricWindGirlFriendtoxic video next video? I’ve been looking forward to that one so now I’m excited

[@gliscorpropagandaaccount1764]

Salazzle with her rifle...

[@isoldemaisol3709]

A fun mechanic that I never knew until very recently: Toxic, if used by a Poison type specifically, NEVER MISSES. And when I say NEVER MISSES, I'm not just talking about Swift and Magical Leaf effects where it bypasses accuracy. It also hits during FLY, DIG, AND OTHER SEMI-INVULNERABLE MOVES.

[@colmkelly72]

I always enjoy these random topics, pokemon competitive always evaded me even thought I've played this series for years.

[@revalentinemashups510]

In a w2 nuzlocke I did once, I was in a really bad spot against Iris-my arcanine was damaged and alomomola was my only option to fight Iris' lapras, which kept spamming sing while it died to my toxic. It eventually fell, but sing landed on its last turn rendering my Alomomola alseep-but, I had been using wish to keep it healthy! Arcanine came come back in on Druddigon, healed back to full with the Wish, killed the dragon and then did enough damage to archeops to put it in defeatist and allow Alomomola to come back in and wake up. Wish unironically saved my nuzlocke, by accident.

[@phr0g900]

my fav niche mechanic is that if you encore a pokémon, it uses the selected move's priority instead of the encore'd move's priority. so if you prankster encore a pokémon that selected a priority move, it gets priority with its last used move

[@brieoconnor9824]

No views but 11 likes? Girl is popping *OFF*

[@eeveewithcoffee9554]

I would love to see a video on Gen 1. Like what if later gens kept the weird mechanics like normal not getting paralyzed by body slam, hyper beam (and it’s copies) not recharging if it gets a kill, recoil moves not dealing self damage (in Pokémon stadium) if they get a kill, leech seed and toxic using the same damage tick. Counter working on the attack of last turn if your opponent switches out

[@No-rl3ey]

I always love skill swap shenanigans with things like regigigas and slaking, two pokemon that could have been insanely strong in their gens if they just had a better ability rather than one intentionally nerfing them. Shout outs to Entrapment Durant, one of the funniest things you can do to an opponent who refuses to switch.

[@Bird-wz7nx]

Wish is one of the most... Pokemon-ie of moves ever. It really highlights the importance of Switching itself, which is one of the best integration of ludonarrative features in the entire franchise. I don't even know of any other RPGs that leverages the exchange of party members even half as much. They took the "You can stuff a monster in your pocket in an instant" idea and made it something you're literally using every few moves in many, if not most games. Could we get a video about switching?

[@SourWine789]

I had no idea about Wish being based on the user's health, That will definitely make me rethink my team more. Thanks for the info

[@creamsalmon]

You could probably make a video about how sheer force blocks not just your secondary effects, but opponent secondary effects as well, like emergency exit. Maybe paid it with other unique quirks to prevalent moves or something else, love your videos son

[@gregorymirabella1423]

To anyone confused as to why slow start weakens foul play: Slow start doesn't half your attack stat, it halves the damage done when you use a physical move. The same happens with body press. The game doesn't care that they don't use your attack stat, it only cares that they're physical moves. This is the same reason why choice band and huge power boost body press, but eviolite fur coat and snow don't. Similar thing with foul play, if your opponent holds a choice band then you won't get a boost, but if YOU do then it'll be boosted. Also, toxic leech seed isn't viable in the campaign or link battles because you can just click razor leaf.

[@bettyunicorn6132]

It’s good against Lance and his agility spam. It’s amazing to witness.

[@gregorymirabella1423]

@@bettyunicorn6132 yeah, that's ONE mon that you fight at the end of the game. you could use any poison type and it would work. is it really that interesting when it's only "viable" against one mon?

[@SkyNinja759]

Gamefreak should make a signature version of what old leech seed scaling was. A "toxic" leech seed would be really cool. Bonus points if it's given to a pokemon that can lock the opponent in somehow, like a whirlpool or arena trap user. VGC could use always use more nuanced defensive strategies, but singles would be plagued by this.

[@Rainbro359]

Gotcha. New exclusive move for a DLC legendary: applies toxic and leech seed to all enemies on the field, and traps them. Bypasses types and abilities. 120 base power for balance.

[@Time_looper]

Leach seed toxic is actually a great strategy in the rby 1v1 meta game

[@DrCoeloCephalo]

Wish is just an average JRPG healing magic skill any Healer role monster or ally can use on themselves or an ally. It just takes longer. Soul Heart is just the same Skill Komashura in the Yo-Kai Watch series has always used. Komashura has always been pretty good in meta to boot. I made an essay on this one but Enma Awoken in Yo-Kai Watch 3 is the Slow Start gimmick except it is actually viable.

[@ubermaster1]

I will never forgive them for giving Gigas slow start in Legends Arceus.

[@Edujs23]

What about healing wish being "stored" for when the ally that comes in is actually damaged

[@ElectricWindGirlFriend]

thats defo going in the sequel, i was deciding between wish and healing wish for this vid

[@marcelosandoval4206]

Man! Magearna’s Suicide Squad is one of my favorite gimmicks in Pokémon Lead Magearna and a partner with Explosion or Final Gambit I Protect with Magearna + Self Destruct And then I bring my Final Gambit In the last slot I use Urshifu Dark as it clears the ghost types with a Black Glasses set And it’s physical perfect for Special Walls If they bring back the mithycal Pokémon format I might even optimize the team with Alolan Golem because it packs electric Self Destruct and can Earthquake on Steel types

[@banditrests]

Series 13 VGC was the dumbest format ever, it was amazing. Soul Heart is obviously broken but the power level of that format was insane because you could just run prankster tailwind and 5 restricteds so none of the mythicals were really that good. Although getting hit with choice scarf zeraora plasma fists into regieleki explosion was a unique trip. Another really interesting Gen 1 mechanic to look at is Bide, there’s a bunch of weird things it does, like bypassing accuracy checks, only accumulating damage from the first hit of multi hit moves, and the glitch Scott’s Thoughts recently discovered where it won’t accumulate damage if you speed tie and win that tie at least once. Also, hardly anyone understands damage rounding thresholds even though they affect every damage calculation in Pokémon to this day.

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

There's also Counter which works very weirdly too. Not sure if it's linked.

[@banditrests]

I think counter has a different mechanic, it only works on normal and fighting moves in gen 1 as well

[@EmuOtori3939]

new video just when i needed it this is so wonderhoy fr

[@bigkermitboi563]

Just an idea, but if your gonna make a part 2, maybe do good as gold or hadron engine/orichalchum pulse, since they are weird because they give side boosts

[@beltsan]

I’m convinced Regigigas did something to the Game Freak staff because why do they always single him out and screw him over 😭🙏

[@quiverdancervolca]

I love watching her rant about the most niche competitive subjects

[@mitchelltreaty7269]

I won a Gen 9 Random Doubles game yesterday by sacking two of my own mons and got Magearna to +6 in like 3 turns

[@shawverno.1130]

Maybe moves that attack while you’re asleep like sleep talk and snore could be good to talk about

[@Iris_Descent]

regigigas slow start also lowers the damage of body press. it's essentially more like a burn for 5 turns

[@PoisedHD]

can’t really ever use it and it’s a horrible strat but zeraora w volt absorb plasma fists + explosion in doubles is a so insanely strange and funny to me

[@CBSnB2R]

Killing your own mon is always funny, megearna just makes it viable.

[@BlackReaper0]

Toxic and leech seed working like that is pretty interesting.

[@handoverthestromboli6715]

You didn't mention Substitute! That mechanic is so fucking confusing Showdown has to give you an essay every time you hover over it and what Status moves are blocked with substitute has changed so often of the generations. Seriously, go look at the graph they have on Bulbapedia. It's crazy that such a central move is never talked about how weird it is. For example Mimic is blocked in gen 3 and 4 ONLY but not 1,2 and 5 onwards. Sound based moves only started bypassing Sub in gen 6 except perish song which has always worked, and starting in Gen 5, sub blocks transform

[@mogaku776]

2:20 Missed the opportunity to have it say "This is absurd"

[@gigatonwatch]

more weird mechanics discussion would be very cool

[@InsertFunnyThingHere]

I want magearna taking over a meta man why did theu have to arbitrarily divide legendaries and mythicals just based on wether they were event pokemon or not half of them aren't even event only pokemon now

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

On 1 hand, it technically allows everyone to play without needing to go to a specific place. On the other, with DLC, it's already kind of pay to win

[@Amletbook]

I love electric wind girlfriend

[@yourenbytemmieverse]

one thing that is a bit silly with regigigas in doubles is using skill swap medicham to give pure power to regigigas while removing the downside of slow start.

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

After being demolished by Slaking one step before leaving Victory League, I came to really respect Skill Swap

[@yourenbytemmieverse]

@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 yea skill swap is awesome just is a bit gimmicky and rarely that worth it

[@guard13007]

Your videos are very quiet. Please try boosting the audio a little if you can comfortably do so.

[@chargestone96]

Biggest thing with soul heart that doesnt apply to the others, megearna doesnt need to cause the knockout, status or an ally finishing them off is enough

[@alessandrotesolin8913]

I got physically angry when I discovered that slow start also halfs the power of bodypress

[@ladonmccabe]

Toxic/leech seed is amazing for casual play, and is what I use on my Venusaur all the time in gen 1. Hell, i just love using it in every gen, but still.

[@kindadepressedguy1662]

I got pretty close to high ladder in uber doubles with metagross explode and earthquake paired with a weakness policy magearna and a tera fairy on it to also abuse sludge wave tornadus. sadly I tried running trick room but the speeds just weren't low enough so I'd consistently get swept by torkoal teams. I actually first figured out the idea on accident with a random doubles match where I had magearna and fortress and it worked to perfection in that match.

[@smittz_]

is regi truly doomed to be to pokemon what CDS is to splatoon

[@danielhale1]

I remember abusing toxic + leech seed in gen 1. Good times! Not good times for the cpu opponent, but you know what I mean

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

Slowly killing a Dragonite, who just hopelessly spam Agility, unable to do anything. Pure evil. Pure fun.

[@technomaster1361]

I F-ing hate wish Alolamola is OU. It's practically unkillable.

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

Regigigas is a Pokemon Game Freaks particularly hates. Alomomola was made because Game Freaks hates you in particular.

[@aaronlaluzerne392]

Could you please talk about Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, and Arceus in future videos?

[@Amletbook]

YESSS MAKE THE SEQUEL

[@enric0392]

Another sad fact about Regigigas is that it is impossible for it to use Special Tera blast

[@TheReZisTLust]

Hehe "has slow start an a game without abilities" 🤭

[@Deadflower019]

They should buff Leech Seed again to do its glitchy Gen 1 thing. It'd give them a niche at least.

[@evougaming5605]

Good video

[@pyrosangel9352]

great video but the audio balance sounded off somehow you were randomly louder at points.

[@ElectricWindGirlFriend]

Sorry about that, I’ll take a closer look at my audio next video

[@pyrosangel9352]

@@ElectricWindGirlFriend it might just be my super sensitive ears, or the audio balance got randomly fucked up again for some reason my pc does randomly reset what I do in the settings.

[@Quartermistress]

Why did you say wish is over 20 years old. Now I feel old.

[@GerryRead-sl9tf]

I thought it was all z moves and also a bug that got patched out. I also thought that wish was still it's gen 5 form.

[@Slushea]

Someone at gamefreak has a burning hatred for regigigas

[@maaren3150]

Babe wake up electricwindgirlfriend uploaded

[@skadoodskadad316]

Neat

[@meta4knight]

Slow start needs a rework. Maybe just give him summoning sickness. Still bad but has ways to work around at least

[@ysshuu]

thank you electric wind girl friend

[@maagic2031]

no way…. doubles ubers mentioned

[@buttersddragon]

banger username

[@91Caesar]

Pink fish

[@lory3771]

“Mechanically simple game” wut Wolfey made a short about how complex just the number of possible game states each turn is I don’t think there’s a world where Pokémon is a mechanically simple game

[@ElectricWindGirlFriend]

my argument for it is that pokemon is designed for little kids to understand. the idea of "move or switch" is insanely basic and even a lot of the moves are simple too.

[@sperenox]

I don't even play competitive but I am so tired of watching the same teams fight each other, and I need official tournaments to focus on non-legendary pokemon...

[@GnZNiCoRobIN]

I want that

[@reedpratt1985]

are these really any weirder than any other whack mechanic in competitive pokemon? The whole game is weird by the standards of like basically any competitive game, which there really aren't very many even remotely similar to pokemon.

[@colechristians2460]

Sequel pls

[@kakashiHatake-ob7nn]

Where is today's video? Are you all right?

[@ElectricWindGirlFriend]

I upload every other day, today is the off one. I'm doing great, don't worry!

[@kakashiHatake-ob7nn]

@@ElectricWindGirlFriend wait for tomorrow then have a nice day

[@vicmothgod]

i love you

[@vicmothgod]

i mean can you talk about moves like revenge and payback

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

​@@vicmothgodI honestly didn't get the difference for so long, it's kind of embarrassing

[@samarius_art_and_games]

"This mechanically simple game". What about this game is mechanically simple?

[@ElectricWindGirlFriend]

the basic mechanics of mons are really simple to understand. the idea of "attack with a move, use a status move that's easy to describe, or switch" is super simple on the surface

[@Giga-lemesh]

Pokeman

[@TwoBagels_]

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