Pokémon’s Extra Types

[@Taijirai]

A little tangential, but you know how Pokémon like Rhyperior and Dragapult fire smaller Pokémon like ammunition? I would like a Mega Pokémon design that fires Sharpedo like an actual Torpedo. Clawitzer with Mega Launcher would be an ideal candidate for this. Probably won't happen, but I can dream

[@mazharsiddiqi7288]

Golurk was known to be a canon in medieval times Maybe Mega Golurk is a full canon that fires Sharpedo

[@christiancinnabars1402]

A new big, submarine-esque Pokemon that fires Sharpedo as its signature move (probably would be a Water-type variant of Dragon Darts) would be rad as hell. In lore, it could offer them shelter with its size, and in return it supercharges them and fires them at prey that would otherwise easily out-speed it.

[@Eroil]

Rhyperior shoots smaller mons as ammunition what? Never heard of that

[@julietschwab5876]

@@Eroil look at its sword dex entry

[@Eroil]

@@julietschwab5876 interesting lol, never heard of that. Unlike Dragapult though it isn't implemented in the design or gameplay

[@endy7630]

Remember kids, you can't Pollen Puff your Bulletproof Kommo-o.

[@pikagammerpluspizza7478]

I think it would be cool to design gym leaders or post game trainers (like a frontier brain) around these ideas.

[@cis22]

They came pretty close to that idea with Raihan. He felt more like a weather condition specialist instead of a dragon-type specialist.

[@Socioromanticism]

I wish Ledian would get a semi-powerful signature Bug-type punching move that is based off of its Sp. Def so it could still be unviable but in a funner way. Or at least it could serve as a niche Special tank to throw out against powerful specially-focused Psychic and Dark-types.

[@Real_Person_Not_A_Bot]

It would have been even funnier if in the next generation, that move becomes exclusive to Ledian, and Regice.

[@JustCallMeKnux]

I do think Pokemon can use signature moves as a way to balance the game. Like you said, a crazy op bug move for only Ledian would help with its viability while not breaking the game.

[@Dragon_ruity]

I feel like ledian needs an evo to make it better

[@JustCallMeKnux]

@@Dragon_ruity I agree with this. I was also suggesting that GF could balance this game using signature moves as well.

[@cursedkevin]

We don’t need a new type. We need a serious rebalance of the preexisting ones

[@Real_Person_Not_A_Bot]

True, like I personally think that by making fairy type moves super effective against fighting types just nerfed the psychic type for no reason, I mean it just makes logic sense to run moonblast over psychic 9 times out of 10 in an scenario when a given pokemon can learn both now. Fairy also shouldn't resist bug either, that was just unnecessary. But if I had to ad a type, I'd probably make "type x" good against at least fairy and steel types, but probably fire types and maybe even ghost types since those seem to be the four best types right now from what I've seen. I'd also make "type x" weak to bug, ice, and grass types since those types tend to be the least used in my experience.

[@JustCallMeKnux]

Adding a new type would throw the balance into chaos. I think a few tweaks here and there is the safest thing to do.

[@JustCallMeKnux]

@@circledude2362I sort of agree with you on this. Other Pokemon such as Ditto and Porygon come to mind as “abnormal” normal type Pokemon. Although, normal type is considered the universal type as well, with normal type Pokemon being able to learn the most amount of moves of other types than any other in Pokemon. So 🤷‍♂️ idk

[@MrRuePine]

What we need is to give Dragon types a new advantage; it's not fair that the so said most powerful type is strong super strong against themselves. Maybe against Steel, I don't think much will change defensively with Steel if Dragon was super effective against it. And if it does, just make Ghost or Dark not effective against it like back in Gen 2 - 5.

[@JustCallMeKnux]

@@MrRuePine Dragon type Pokemon are strong, but Dragon type moves are weak because they barely have any types they are strong against. This is why in competitive you don’t see a lot Dragon type Pokemon have Dragon type moves in their arsenal. I think your idea of Dragon being strong to steel is a good idea, and I think it will make a difference especially since steel is the second most powerful type in the game (after fairy). I was also hearing some people talk about adding a rubber/elastic type to the game and I can see Dragon being strong to that.

[@saturnoz8775]

3:02 It's interesting that the Italian names for Aura Sphere and Heal Pulse were originally "Forzasfera" and "Ondasana," but in Generation 9, they were changed to "Sferapulsar" and "Curapulsar" to align with the "Pulse" naming convention you mentioned.

[@pokekidcyber]

I’d say wind moves are the most intriguing battle mechanic added to Scarlet & Violet, because I used to associate the Flying type with having wind controlling properties going based off certain Pokémon like Tornadus. Granted not all Flying type moves such as Drill Peck or Dual Wingbeat don’t fit that description, but I think it’s an interesting concept for certain moves to be considered wind based. Although, my only issue I have with wind moves is that they feel so underutilized in Scarlet & Violet. I say this because there’s not a lot of wind moves to begin with, and no held item or ability to boost their various effects.

[@majesticgothitelle1802]

Flying types are like a mixture of bird, aerobatic/aero combat and air power

[@Real_Person_Not_A_Bot]

Pokemon really needs to buff Iron Fist because it's just objectively worse than Tough Claws. Iron Fist boosts punching moves by 1.2x but Tough Claws boosts physical contact moves (you know, including punching moves) by 1.3x. That's dumb.

[@mazharsiddiqi7288]

There's no kick one yet right?

[@Real_Person_Not_A_Bot]

@@mazharsiddiqi7288 nope, not yet.

[@Taijirai]

@@Real_Person_Not_A_Bot I think the difference here was meant to be the Punching Glove item, which also strengthens Punch moves. This contrasts with items like Choice Band that lock you into one move, so you have some flexibility. Obviously this only applies to punch-centric mons like Hitmonchan who don't contend with single-move titans like Fishious Rend Dracovich

[@Real_Person_Not_A_Bot]

@@Taijirai you fail to realize nothing could stop someone from using the Punching Glove item with Tough Claws either.

[@elemomnialpha]

I do sometimes think it would be interesting for them to further lead into move types with their own type chart possibly effecting turn order instead of damage or operating on a unique chart but as types Pokemon themselves can never have like Normal types taking super effective damage from punching moves so Fighting type punching moves would be x4 against a normal type or giving every type an immunity to something in general like how Grass is immune to Powder moves

[@matts5747]

While Aeigislash needing Stance Change is obvious f we had a regional form of Honedge that a different final evo like a fencing sword or different weapon like an axe, I could see it getting Sharpness as an ability.

[@kuitaranheatmorus9932]

Man, just more stuff that makes me love pokemon even more. I love this video very much and can't wait for the next one!

[@Blutexdoingsomething]

fun fact since the punching glove boosts the power of punching moves by 10% it almost a worse version of the muscle band which boosts the power of ALL physical moves by 10% the only thing the Punching glove has over it is that it prevents the punching moves from making contact thus not activating an opposite rocky helmet

[@MrRuePine]

Off topic but pondering Lyra looks kinda adorable in that thumbnail.

[@MegaMachiOnline]

Time to make frontier brains purely based on these secondary “types”

[@majesticgothitelle1802]

Magma can be a type with magma storm, eruption and lava plume. Pokemon that can be that type able to be heatran, camerupt, and slugma. Sound able to be a type of it own. Fairies is stepping on both dragons and physics types foot. Physics types is treated like both physics, light and magic. While dragons is treated like the species types, magic types and nature/energy types. Flying types is both the Bird species types, aero combat and wind types.

[@MousaThe14]

The whole “Wind Moves” thing just makes me think there was an opportunity to divide the flying type into a bird/ability to fly and wind magic and they decided “nah, we’re still gonna say Peck and Wing Attack is in the same type category as Aeroblast”

[@chrisjohnsen8448]

There are a few qualifiers for what a new type could be that I like to consider when thinking about it. 1. Be thematically different from other types, even if only slightly. 2. Be mechanically unique, with weaknesses and resistances that set it apart from other types in some way. 3. It should ideally be something able to cover a wide array of unique designs. 4. It should be able to be applied to similar concepts that aren't worth their own type by themselves but don't fit into any others. 5. It shouldn't already be a defining feature of more than a few Pokemon of any given existing type.

[@mysticpumpkin8520]

So basically.....everything the sound type isnt

[@Taijirai]

@@chrisjohnsen8448 Ah yes, like the Rock, Ground and Steel types. Or should I say, Classic Rock, Smooth Rock and Hard Rock.

[@burningshadowxd7633]

I was JUST thinking about this yesterday, huh, what are the odds?

[@mallardduckjrh8048]

I’d say kicking and beam moves should definitely get some attention

[@duyanhpham9227]

How does wooper ice punch

[@jgr7487]

Bite & Punch "type" moves are the reason why some people want them to be double type moves, gaining the Dark & Fighting types respectively.

[@Eroil]

Well there is one double typing move in flying press, but it's almost never used.

[@jgr7487]

@@Eroil And only one existing is pretty sad.

[@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache]

I'm pretty sure Game Freak are comfortable with just the current 18 types. There is no need to make it more complicated then it needs to be. I mean the fact Fairy type was introduced in Gen 6 and the last time a new type was introduce was in Gen 2, tells me excepting a new type for each new gen is not the norm and we should consider ourselves lucky that we got Fairy in the first place.

[@theshiny_lotad4661]

If there was ever gonna be a new type ide imagine it would be something like Cosmic but even then I don't see them actually doing another type.

[@W0nderStress]

Semi related but the Pokemon Prism rom hack actually adds a sound and gas type. Gas type moves are super effective against Fighting, Fire, Fairy and are not very effective against Rock, Sound, Grass, Ice Sound type moves are super effective against Ghost, Steel, Water and are not very effective against Fighting, Bug The types felt like unnecessary additions but were quite fun to use. Felt like it balanced out some of the types actually.

[@Mario87456]

Terapagos is why there will NEVER be a new type. After all the shell would have to be redesigned to include this new type

[@nicolassanabria3219]

We need a video analyzing which Pokemon would be Ball, Slice and Pulse types.

[@AusterLiteax]

im a bit pissed that powder/spore and obstacle moves wasn't even mentioned, nice video tho

[@mazharsiddiqi7288]

Heavy Duty Boots should power up kick moves

[@fansachik6200]

I think that everybody is against making a sound type

[@toasteroven6761]

Better than some of the other proposed types I've heard though, has a great fangame to go with the type as well, so i AM biased.

[@Boltofbrilliance122]

If everyone was against it people wouldn't be suggesting it, like the national dex

[@toasteroven6761]

@@Boltofbrilliance122 Agreed

[@DCDex05]

I’m against Sound type because the majority of Normal special moves and support moves are related and in the sound subcategory of attack. Think Boomburst, Hyper Voice, Echoed Voice, Perish Song, Sing, Uproar, Growl, Heal Bell, Noble Roar, Relic Song, Roar, Screech, Sonic Boom, Snore, Supersonic, Confide, Round… Looks like all of the good Special Normal moves would be swiped away from Normal to accommodate Sound. The support move do not mind the change and honestly would be better so it could hit Ghost. But again, stealing from Normal support options. Boomburst, Swellow is in shambles for losing its niche. Hyper Voice would not be a STAB option for Pixilate, Refrigerate, Aerialate, users because its not a normal move anymore. RIP to Refrigerate Aurorus, Pixilate M. Altaria, Pixilate Sylveon, etc. Pokémon that needs Special Normal Stab that don’t revolve around sound like Hisuian Zoroark, Arboliva, Farigiraf, Indeedee, Wyrdeer, Oranguru…what are they supposed to attack with then? Razor Wind (not widely distributed and two turn bad move)? Wring Out (dexited move), Terrain Pulse (not widely distributed), Hyper Beam(the recharge), Tri Attack (wouldn’t make sense to distribute, it the case for the Lake Trio, the three gems but all have more that one head…and then Terapagos.) Creating new special moves for normal without the use of sound…seems pretty difficult. It’s not worth the heavy maintenance and it should just be a subcategory rather that a type. It’s a nerf to the Normals and a buff to this new Sound Type.

[@majesticgothitelle1802]

​@@DCDex05normal type to me is treated like a basic fighting type. Normal types have it punching and kicking moves and have some special stuff like fighting type.

[@Glory2Snowstar]

I don’t think we need any new Types, personally. Fairy had the path paved for itself due to the Fairy Egg Group, pre-existing ‘Mons that fit the Type, and noticeable kinks in the Type chart (Poison and Steel being useless offensively, Dragon and Fighting having too much offensive force). Sound becoming a Type would screw over a bunch of ‘Mons that rely on Moves like Bug Buzz and Boomburst for reliable STAB, and it would make the Moves arguably less interesting thematically. Just as light is represented through multiple Types (Psychic, Fairy, and Electric), Sound can be represented through multiple Types as well (Fire, Bug, Normal).

[@Pika-tm4sf]

If you don't like the idea of a sound type, what type would you like to be added, so?

[@majesticgothitelle1802]

I feel like a dragon, physics and fairy are stepping on each other's toes trying to be like each other. Dragon is the magic/energy type same with physics and fairy. Dragon is a species type same with fairy type. Dragon and fairy are both the nature types. Fairy and physics both the light types. Both ghost and dark types are the shadows types. Fly is both the bird species type, wind types and an aero combat type. Aero combat and fighting a bit close to each other Magma types, light types, wind types and sound types.

[@hotashikayaba910]

Personally im a big fan of the "bullet" type

[@nicholuswilliams6443]

Beast Type

[@Forten3]

KazooCat already made this video But video was great so i am not angry

[@fireembliam9090]

I want to see a Light type.

[@fireembliam9090]

I want to see a Reptile type.

[@Makeitstorm]

Psst you kids wanna buy some corsola dust?

[@maximvandepoll3008]

Personally I don't like fanmade Types that much, with the exceptions of the Nuclear Type from Uranium and the Crystal Type from Azurite, as they're tied into the mechanics of those games and have a clear reason as to why they're only found in those regions.

[@lucinamain6861]

the difference between sound and the other types you mentioned (bite, punch, etc.) is that sound is an actual property that has real world interactions with the other types. sound travels easily through water, but not so much through ground. and a lot of sound type moves are normal type, so it's not like anything would change by adding a new type. if anything, it could also bring new dual type moves similar to flying press.

[@lerdog]

And there's nothing stopping it just being arbitrary. "Why just sound and not the other ones?" well, why not?

[@JustCallMeKnux]

100% agree

[@majesticgothitelle1802]

​​@@lerdogsounds have their own real world property and scientific methods than the normal type who is treated like the basic fighting type.

[@The_Pokemon_of_all_times]

We NEED the Ball Type

[@minicle426]

I'd personally like to see a Bit Type for artificial pokemon, such as the Porygon line.

[@WhiteRaven696]

I still want a Sound type. They could make it a broader concept like Vibration type to justify it a little more. And they really should retcon Flying to Wind or Air. It’s an elemental type and should be treated like one.

[@majesticgothitelle1802]

@@WhiteRaven696 I don't understand people not knowing sound is sonic and vibration. Some research can do a lot of things on its own. Flying can be split into flying and wind from aero combat and air manipulation. Fire type don't really use much of the lava moves that can be a new magma type with eruption, lava plume and magma storm. Fairy, dragons and physics are becoming too much like each other. Dragons, and fairy both are nature types. Fairy and physics are both the light types. All 3 are energy, magic, and species.

[@mega-1427]

Doesn’t really make sense to compare sound to punching and biting. I think most people recognize there’s more than just a mechanics aspect to making a type, it’s also conceptual. And conceptually, sound makes more sense as a type than biting or punching as it is an actual attribute by which you can identify a Pokémon. Almost any Pokémon with hands can punch so arguing that punch has just a much validity as a typing as sound seems like purposeful ignorance more than anything else. There’s a reason people will look to sound before something like biting, because it’s a concept that fits as a typing. This isn’t even an argument for sound type more than it is just an argument that the concept of sound isn’t comparable to the other “types” mentioned and most people inherently know this, hence why it’s popular and the others aren’t.

[@majesticgothitelle1802]

@@mega-1427 you can say the same with the magma type, light types, air type and sound types being a real thing. Magma is just liquid rocks while ice is solid water. Fairy, dragon and psychic is a species being reptile, aliens and fey. While also being the magic and energy type. Dragon and fairy are the nature types. Fairy and physics are the light types. Normal and fighting both have combat moves like punching, kicking and energy attacks. Flying can be divided into 2. one focus on aero combat and birds. the only can focus on wind types moves.

[@mega-1427]

@@majesticgothitelle1802 something like magma and light don’t have any particular existence in the game functionally like sound does. They’re also too conceptually similar to previous typings. While magma is another stage of rock like ice is with water, magma’s actual combative interaction is based on its heat, like fire. Sound both exists in game mechanically and works conceptually as distinct from the type it’s currently mostly associated with, that being normal.

[@majesticgothitelle1802]

@@mega-1427 magma is already in the game but it plays part of the fire type like eruption, lava plume, magma storm and ability Magma armor. pokemon already made with a lava and volcano themed like heatran, slugma and camarupt The only light base move that plays with the game mechanic is flash and illuminate. But many types don't have a game mechanic like bugs, water, and electric. Sulf and other to no longer in the game for map interaction. Light is trapped as an extension to physics and fairy with enough moves to be its own type. So in the end there is enough stuff in Pokemon to make 4 new types. light, Magma, wind and sound types in the game if they wanted to. Plus there are hybrid types that move like flying press for signal beam and bug buzz.

[@JustABakedSnackCracker]

I’ll be honest I did not know about most of these sub types. Cool video as always.