"A Proportional Response" Mission In Syria In 1999 | DCS

[@robandcheryls]

Sunday night beers and Booms, thank you GR! 🇨🇦 Veteran

[@arquadia3976]

You dont hit back with a proportional response...you hit back with total disaster! Love the reference boys!

[@mavor101]

This is why SEAD is so difficult in real life. You need professional and extremely coordinated teams of people to do it properly and even small mistakes with timing/positioning can result in zero effect. It's probably even worse in a sim like this when "smart" scripts are added for the ground AA getting them to either use data link information to keep radars off until absolutely needed, along with **moving** after firing. In real life, attempting to stay alive is also something that hinders ground AA, which is not present here, so they can use extremely dangerous (possibly suicidal) tactics to get missiles off even when HARMs could be danger close. People are too used to "SEAD" being just firing off a HARM or two and getting a guaranteed kill from long range due to an idiotic AI not turning off it's radar and/or not moving after firing. It's not like this at all. Not to mention that there are a huge number of short range SAMs and AAA that are able to intercept larger missiles like HARMs as they come in.

[@0BuLLeT01]

This. SEAD isn't a stand-alone mission. It should always be attached to a package. This seemed a bit disjointed.

[@voidwalker9223]

21:15 I’m crying “Have you been fired upo- *Wingman burning in giant fireball* OHH Jesus Christ!”!

[@-Hardstyle-]

Same here!! 😂

[@RTS907]

Who is it? NotJeff

[@dampsok]

Damp Sock's commander to his wife - "We regret to inform you that your man is dead because he didn't believe his RWR."

[@-Hardstyle-]

​@@dampsok😂😂

[@-Hardstyle-]

​@@RTS907classic!

[@-Hardstyle-]

Everyone is taking off and CAP is enjoying playing with his knobs 😂. Grim Reapers just wouldn't be Grim Reapers without CAP's epic humour in his commentary! ❤ That F-15 crashing after attempting take off through the grass field! Absolutely lost it 😂. Another great video!

[@vicoschangoku609]

was expecting the "wow" meme at this very moment (and also when this F-15E shot down point blank his buddy F/A-18 ^^) Absolutely love both the seriousness of missions editions and briefings and the contrast between some stupid flying.. makes GR really unique

[@ldkellandshaw]

Without having viewed the video, I assume this in relation to the episode from the West Wing after the Doctors plane is shot down and killed. If so, I approve.

[@carlousmagus5387]

My response wouldn't have been proportional...

[@jimdraven2432]

​@@carlousmagus5387you're not alone in that!

[@hephaestion12]

Well one flight is called Bartlett flight....

[@spanishserval2141]

Man that barcap guy @ 43:26 was supposed to barcap but didn't know how to tws targets and launch on multiple mig21 in the f15, and couldn't visually identify a hornet and killed a member of sead wing... yikes

[@CMDRSweeper]

I was like "Surely you MUST have identified that as a F18..." then the missile left the wing and my heart sank. Especially knowing it was Bear... He is on the GR's competitive DCS team.

[@tonelock6963]

That was Bear killing SpaceChef. Earlier Bear killed Macaboo as well

[@0BuLLeT01]

@@CMDRSweeper Same reaction here. Even if the Hornet hadn't bothered with it's IFF and Bear hadn't bothered IFF interrogating, that should have been an easy VID. Where was the GCI or AWACS mission commander during all this? I had to go back to check the kill on Macaboo... Wow.

[@Philberton]

I was feeling smug about getting the reference until the group names gave it away! RIP Morris Tolliver.

[@altPastaTits]

i….don’t get it?

[@christopherjohnson529]

Gorgeous camerawork on this one too BTW.

[@FriedPi-mc5yt]

Cap always shows an unusual interest in knobs. I’m still waiting for Fly to show up. FlyByWire hasn’t been keeping his fans happy with his absence.

[@grimreapers]

I miss fly also :(

[@CMDRSweeper]

We are plotting and scheming to have him shanghaied from his work... Better look out for those black vans with the GR logo on them.

[@FriedPi-mc5yt]

@@CMDRSweeper Good!! Either that or make up a van to look like a tower or building and Fly will dive into it. 😂

[@lucykwiatek5159]

I was not expecting to see a DCS/West Wing crossover today, but I am NOT complaining.

[@stevemorris3924]

hummm someone has been watching too much Westwing as this is so based on the episode Proportional Response, looked fun!

[@christopherjohnson529]

Cap - just getting around to seeing this one. Really enjoyed the video. Painful losses for the Grim Reapers, but hope you can include Skynet again on occasion in the future. Feels a lot more realistic (and challenging) to watch you all unraveling a defense like this. A whole new set of "problems" you're facing to take it apart. Different from the more common situation we see where everyone's firing off 4 HARMs at max range and then waltzing in later. The revetments for the SAMs also make gunnery and rocket attacks harder. As a long time Grim Reapers watcher, you've all come a long way in your skill and coordination. This could be your next stage of challenge ahead - but understand maybe only once in awhile so GR pilots don't get too frustrated.

[@leepatterson5710]

Clearly there was an issue as Cap's plane showed he didn't emergency jettison his gear.

[@AsianLuke]

Love the West Wing reference!!!

[@onefan1249]

A few more than some poor janitor working the night shift bought it on this version. (One of the few episodes I remember… and I saw Alison Janney on set!)

[@lordjiraiya2068]

Would love to see a battle of midway where you combine the most well known ships such as the entire Iowa class and the Yamato class from USA, USB (Britan), Germany, Japan, and the USSR. I'm curious as to see what would've happened with all these ships 'accidently' running into each other .

[@gibbo_303]

god some of the people flying in this mission are so target fixated, that harrier flew right into the SAM

[@dampsok]

I blew up next to Cap because I didn't believe my RWR... I thought it was pulling a prank on me... turns out it was right all along...

[@ForestBlue7]

We’re gonna pilot like it’s Nineteeeeen 99! 🎶🎼🤘🏼🫵🏼👊🏼

[@hjp201168]

Is this a Mission based on the TV programme West Wing?

[@modelpro72]

Like you Cap I do like a few knobs to play with. Excellent mission.

[@michaeliverson1688]

I'm only at 6:54 at the moment, but i have to admit a mild disappointment at Sok not flying a Tomcat,.....

[@dampsok]

Don't worry, I'll always come back to my good kitty. Think of this as... a jovial indiscretion. ;)

[@johnwycough1955]

Fun watch. Surprising outcome.

[@LIMITLESS_RC]

Really should utilize the air to ground radar with the strike eagle. Probably one of its best features….beyond being the best jet in dcs (along with f16 of course)

[@shirgall]

Good old Homs, where there's an interesting oil pipeline terminal on the way Tripoli and Kirkuk, and an oil refinery... Why go after the railway bridges north of the city when that refinery and pipeline terminal is only a couple miles away? Is it because the munitions came to the airbase via rail?

[@aztec0112]

This whole mission could have been accomplished with TALDS, HARM'S, ALCM's and SLCM'S. Maybe, when the A6 comes out we'll get the ALQ-99 stand off jammer.

[@0BuLLeT01]

This one was hard to watch. I hope lots of lessons were learnt. Try attaching your SEAD flights to your Strike packages next time.

[@agamemnonn1]

12:24 What's truly astonishing is this guy thought that was a good idea.

[@dace0326]

Love 4Sqn rocking up

[@vicoschangoku609]

Very tense mission.. feels like I'm watching Flight Of The Intruder.. ;)

[@michaeliverson1688]

Poor Cap,....6 whole minutes of just tinkering with knobs before he could even taxi to runway

[@rantanplan178]

Wait - who got retaliated in this mission? xd

[@mfreed40k]

Hey Cap, do the first battle of Wake Island if you haven't!

[@colbypupgaming1962]

Where were the fighter escorts for the Mudhens?

[@robert-9377]

Literally watched this West Wing episode yesterday

[@RTS907]

Any battle with F-14s, F-15s and F-16s is a great day !

[@wesleymoreno1037]

Does the flaming Clift F 15 C working multiplayer

[@icaleinns6233]

looked like you needed another SEAD wing, too.

[@occamraiser]

fascinating tho it was watching cap press every button in his cockpit twice, I skipped most of the first 13 minutes.

[@CanterburySteel]

There's the nasally colonizer back to health ! Hurrah !

[@panzerabwerkanone]

Well it's clear that "No leave me alone" is not a good SAM evasion strategy?

[@gunzelloharris3348]

Evaded the missile!!!! But not Terra! LOL ! ;)

[@aztec0112]

Oof, this looked like old GR.

[@johnaikema1055]

for f15's to be successful in a contested airspace they need long range munitions. f16's carry less weight in munitions =better in contested airspace. f15's are heavy and capable of a heavier loadout =greater punch but reduced maneuverability when fully loaded. sead needs to be taken out regardless.

[@agamemnonn1]

Incorrect. The F-15E is intended to escort itself deep into enemy territory. You don't dogfight with it and use those two powerful engines to out accelerate anything sent up against you. Remember, the F-15E would have been used to penetrate contested Soviet airspace. And this would have been with Mk82 bombs.

[@johnaikema1055]

@@agamemnonn1 not a chance. I'm a huge fan of the f15ex...but it must be used correctly or it's more of a tactical hindrance than an asset. use the tool right or don't bother opening the toolbox.

[@Evocati-Augusti]

Did this really happen? the country had no President, this would have happened a week after President Hafez al-Assad died , I guess leaving the Defence Minister unchecked..

[@outperformancelife3145]

I honestly dont know where I stand on this attack the US and UK did against Syria. We dont know what was going on between the pilots and Syrian authorities at the time that they shot down the plane do we? If they were arguing and the pilots were refusing to cooperate then I understand why the Syrians would think it would be a proper response with military force but if not then yes 100% I would agree with the 1999 attack on Syria.

[@bearcatracing007]

I'm a meat popsicle

[@coreymoyers]

Great, the first F-15 to be shot down in combat. #GrimReapers

[@funkytownjedi]

😮🎉

[@imaginarybaron5864]

“All is going well” Cap says as the US Air Force is about to incur the worst losses since Vietnam

[@voradfils]

dead harriers mmh

[@kellyyoung5153]

hahaha....Bear is such a c*nt. How do you not see that is a Hornet? How's SATAL going Bear?

[@stevecooksley]

Not first

[@jonathanmcfarland288]

First!

[@MrCraptakular]

first

[@Trbrigade]

That was Times then US didnt afraid of anything, and had some balls.

[@dexlab7539]

Yup, now US just send billions of weapons for others to die for them 😣